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00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a staff bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4774
00:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a curved sword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5100
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00:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6292 points, T:5433, killed by an elf mummy called k2
00:53 <K2> ah fuck
00:53 <K2> and if that made bones, there's now a human k2 mummy also
00:54 <K2> !who
00:54 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
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02:27 <K2> hdf-us going down for just a few minutes. network upgrade
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03:09 <K2> hi
03:09 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
03:09 <K2> little delayed but ok
03:09 <K2> !ping
03:09 <Beholder> K2: Pong! 
03:09 <K2> :P
03:10 <K2> hardfought.org ip address changed, give your isp's dns server a bit of time to resolve to the new ip
03:10 <K2> eu.hardfought.org and au.hardfought.org are unaffected
03:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v tenbeers] by K2
03:13 <K2> hiya tenbeers
03:13 <K2> since you arent registered/identified against nickserv, no one can see you speak except channel ops
03:13 <tenbeers> greetings!
03:13 <K2> or until one of us voices you
03:13 <tenbeers> blergh. thought I did
03:13 <K2> have quiet mode on here because of the spam bots
03:14 <tenbeers> yeah I knew that. Musta mis-configured my new IRC client
03:14 <K2> a good way to test it, if you say hi and beholder doesnt say hi back
03:14 <tenbeers> I see
03:15 <K2> but just add to your startup config script in your irc client - /msg nickserv identify <your password here>
03:15 <K2> without the <>
03:15 <tenbeers> I'm all over that. I'm saying I must have still fumbled something else
03:15 <K2> ah i see
03:16 <tenbeers> or there's some other subtlety like it's doing that too soon in the process of signing onto freenode or something
03:16 <tenbeers> have had it all set before, but abandoned the old client I didn't like.
03:17 <tenbeers> hi
03:17 <Beholder> Hello tenbeers, Welcome to #hardfought
03:17 <tenbeers> ding
03:17 <tenbeers> lol
03:17 <K2> heh
03:17 <tenbeers> no I know you already voiced me. Anyway...
03:17 <K2> :P
03:17 <tenbeers> my last Monk was going great until this one warhorse was so much fiercer than everything else on Sokoban 4
03:18 <tenbeers> - but of course I died in possession of items that could have saved me. so it goes. next!
03:20 <K2> yup
03:21 <K2> i had a semi decent sporkhack game going earlier tonight, was killed by my own mummy from a previous game (bones)
03:21 <tenbeers> ah, id fatality!
03:32 <tenbeers> sometimes the self fights like no other enemy ~.~
03:49 <tenbeers> I just robbed my own grave :\
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04:14 <tenbeers> go team ant!
04:15 <tenbeers> oh, that was disgusting. I just died in (unidentified, not-yet-BUC-tested) possession of an AoLS and two magic lamps
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04:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dart on an altar, on T:3097
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05:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18391 points, T:6413, killed by a watch captain
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05:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 polished silver shield", on T:16313
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08:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:40475
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10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42310
10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:42343
10:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] The Envoy of Game Balance (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7610 points, T:54726, poisoned by a rotted giant spider corpse
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10:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:44635
10:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44635
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11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 65783 points, T:18277, killed by a snow orc
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11:26 <uniusz> hello
11:26 <Beholder> Hello uniusz, Welcome to #hardfought
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11:28 <uniusz> Beholder: you are bot ?
11:29 <jilles> uniusz, yes, Beholder is a bot
11:30 <uniusz> jilles: are you too ? ^^
11:32 <uniusz> nethack on hardfought is 3.6.2 ?
11:32 <uniusz> 3.6.1 isnt the newest ?
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11:35 <LarienTelrunya> !who
11:35 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-21 21:31 EDT: add trippelgangers to slex
11:35 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
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11:35 <uniusz> How can i search my character/account stats on hardfought site ?
11:35 <K2> uniusz 3.6.2 became a thing shortly after 3.6.1 official release
11:36 <K2> the vast majority of 3.6.2 updates are bugfixes
11:36 <uniusz> K2: but official nethack website dont mention 3.6.2...
11:36 <K2> uniusz which server are you playing on?
11:37 <uniusz> K2: for now im choosing server...
11:38 <uniusz> I dont know which to choose, for now i mostly played single player but now i want start to play online, i tried NAO but i have little lags there becouse im EU and NAO is US server
11:38 <uniusz> so on #nethack, users told be about hardfought and im thinking about play on hardfought now
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11:39 <uniusz> but now im thinking about it because i see that here is not much players online
11:39 <K2> ok, so first, ssh nethack@hardfought.org and register your account
11:39 <uniusz> etc...
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11:39 <uniusz> and on NAO i see current ascensions, current deaths etc
11:39 <K2> takes about 5 min for new accounts to sync to the eu and au servers
11:39 <K2> then ssh nethack@eu.hardfought.org
11:39 <uniusz> but here is nothing like this
11:40 <K2> !scoreboard
11:40 <K2> !sb
11:40 <Beholder> K2: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard (HDF) or https://scoreboard.xd.cm (ALL)
11:40 <K2> you havent looked on the site at yet have you
11:41 <uniusz> So if here is not much players
11:41 <uniusz> so i can find more bones on NAO
11:41 <uniusz> than here
11:41 <K2> sure
11:41 <K2> we get a fair amount of playtime, just right this second no one is on
11:41 <uniusz> so maybe ill choose NAO
11:41 <K2> sounds good
11:42 <uniusz> btw, how can i check my account/character statistic on hfd ?
11:42 <uniusz> hdf*
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11:42 <uniusz> like https://alt.org/nethack/plrlist.php
11:42 <uniusz> that ?
11:42 <K2> assuming you make an account here and play on the EU server - https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/
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11:44 <LarienTelrunya> why play on nao when you can play here, hardfought has many variants available *bundlebundlebundle* :)
11:44 <isha> don't remember why i left here but someone reminded me of its existence so hi!
11:44 <uniusz>  2018-05-13 02:07 
11:44 <uniusz> i found something like this
11:45 <uniusz> 05.12 in 2018 ?
11:45 <K2> hiya isha
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11:45 <uniusz> LarienTelrunya: yes, but here is not much players online... So not much bones can i found here...
11:45 <K2> depends on which game you decide to play
11:45 <uniusz> and NAO have kills/ascend info on irc channel
11:46 <uniusz> K2 i decide nethack 361
11:46 <isha> so does hardfought, it's just in hardfought's channel not NAO's :P
11:46 <K2> i see 5 bones files for 362 currently
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8 points, T:17, zapped himself with a spell
11:48 <LarienTelrunya> there might not be many players online right now but at peak times hdf is used quite frequently
11:48 <K2> uniusz if you need more help, this sia good resource that will get you started - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/
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11:49 <uniusz> LarienTelrunya: what time exacly ?
11:49 <K2> uniusz there is no set time. it varies throughout the day
11:50 <uniusz> On what time here is best online players count on EU nh361 server ?
11:50 <LarienTelrunya> uniusz: maybe 4-5 hours from now; FWIW I've started playing right now
11:50 <LarienTelrunya> !who
11:50 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players
11:50 <uniusz> !players
11:50 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players
11:51 <uniusz> LarienTelrunya: i dont see you by !players command
11:51 <K2> she plays as amybsod
11:52 <LarienTelrunya> yeah I'm AmyBSOD
11:52 <uniusz> i see
11:52 <uniusz> what is slex ?
11:52 <LarienTelrunya> slex is one of many nethack variants
11:52 <LarienTelrunya> but there is also unnethack, grunthack, nethack fourk and many others
11:52 <K2> slex is short for Slash'EM Extended
11:53 <uniusz> yeah i see that
11:53 <uniusz> but im interested just about pure nh361 for now
11:53 <rld> <@Demo> slex is for cool players
11:54 <uniusz> hdf have option for messages like who get killed or who ascend ? like nao channel
11:54 <LarienTelrunya> yes, there was such a message 7 minutes ago actually: [17:47] <+Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8 points, T:17, zapped himself with a spell
11:55 <uniusz> LarienTelrunya: i dont see that
11:55 <uniusz> ah sorry i have that
11:55 <uniusz> K2: how do you see bone files ?
11:55 <LarienTelrunya> K2 is the server admin
11:56 <LarienTelrunya> he has the one ring and sees everything :D
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11:58 <LarienTelrunya> !whereis AmyBSOD
11:58 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Fai Ink Fem Law) T:4117 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2
11:58 <K2> !goat LarienTelrunya
11:58 <Beholder> K2's goat runs up and kicks LarienTelrunya in the kneecap! Baaaaaa!
11:58 <uniusz> :D
11:58 <uniusz> okay
11:58 <LarienTelrunya> haha
11:59 <uniusz> btw what is rec.games.roguelike.nethack and how to acces that ?
12:00 <LarienTelrunya> it's a newsgroup, I usually access it via google groups
12:00 <LarienTelrunya> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.roguelike.nethack
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12:02 <uniusz> okay, thanks
12:03 <bug_sniper> !goat K2
12:03 <Beholder> bug_sniper's goat runs up and headbutts K2 in the arse! Baaaaaa!
12:03 <K2> ow
12:03 <bug_sniper> no, that shouldn't hurt too much
12:03 <K2> i wasnt ready for it
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12:05 <isha> K2: hmm, Beholder's yours right? did you get the idea for !goat from Rodney? (which got it from lykos the werewolf bot and i'm now suggesting your messages to be added to lykos too lol)
12:06 <K2> Tangles has done the vast majority of work on beholder. we grabbed a copy of deathboy (kerio from ascension.run made detahbot) and heavily modified it
12:06 <K2> *deathbot
12:07 <K2> i think !goat was elenmirie's idea? lol
12:07 <K2> hah deathboy
12:07 <aosdict> rodney's goat is less violent
12:07 <K2> yeah i cant spell
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12:07 <isha> Rodney's is just lifted directly from lykos
12:07 <K2> !beer isha
12:07 <Beholder> K2: I thought you'd never ask!
12:07 <isha> someone in between made the messages more colorful
12:08 <K2> !commands
12:08 <Beholder> K2: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands
12:08 <isha> but i like it and i'm gonna try to add those to lykos so it comes full circle :D
12:08 <K2> i like the 8ball
12:08 <K2> isha yeah! go for it
12:08 <K2> !8ball will isha succeed in their quest with lykos?
12:08 <Beholder> K2: Signs point to yes
12:08 <raisse> !8ball will I ever get more ascensions than astral splats?
12:08 <Beholder> raisse: Most likely
12:08 <aosdict> !8ball is someone going to !goat me in the near future?
12:08 <Beholder> aosdict: Yes definitely
12:09 <isha> !goat aosdict
12:09 <Beholder> isha's goat runs up and kicks aosdict in the arse! Baaaaaa!
12:09 <aosdict> isha: Hey, no self-fulfilling prophecies!
12:09 <K2> the 8ball is generous today
12:09 <isha> :D
12:11 <uniusz> K2: in what language Beholder is written ?
12:11 <K2> python
12:11 <uniusz> where code can be found ?
12:11 <uniusz> !players
12:11 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players
12:11 <K2> https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder
12:11 <uniusz> kk thanks
12:12 <uniusz> btw, how it is implemented to chat ?
12:12 <K2> the script uses twistd to connect to irc services
12:12 <K2> and the bot runs on the same box as the server
12:12 <K2> so it can access things like xlogfile, inprogress data, dumplogs, etc in real time
12:13 <uniusz> so bot code is on the server ?
12:13 <K2> yup
12:13 <uniusz> kk 
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12:14 <uniusz> how to connect that hdf ?
12:14 <uniusz> ok have it
12:16 <uniusz> i cant register...
12:16 <K2> register on the us server first
12:16 <K2> ssh nethack@hardfought.org
12:16 <uniusz> i cant register on eu ?
12:17 <K2> no. regisration on the main server syncs to the other 2 every few minutes
12:17 <uniusz> ok i register
12:17 <aosdict> K2: any plans to decentralize that at some point?
12:17 <K2> great. so given the time, prob in next 2-3 min you can play on eu server
12:18 <K2> aosdict no
12:18 <uniusz> there is no need to activate email ?
12:18 <K2> uniusz nope, you're good to go
12:18 <isha> i suppose you could get conflicts if the same nick is registered on two servers in between syncs
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12:18 <K2> the email bit is just there in case you need to reset your password
12:18 <isha> and since it's only a couple minutes per registration this seems like an easy and effective way to prevent that, even if not the most elegant possible solution
12:18 <uniusz> what for is that hterm ?
12:18 <uniusz> it is for play in browser ?
12:18 <K2> yes
12:19 <uniusz> okay
12:20 <uniusz> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2484
12:20 <uniusz> this is from unethack ?
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12:21 <uniusz> K2: why all images is your ? ;p
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12:22 <uniusz> !players
12:22 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players
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12:22 <K2> heh i guess because I am only one to puts up pics
12:22 <K2> *put
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12:26 <aosdict> I thought you were the only one who *could* put up pics.
12:27 <K2> if you had registered a messageboard account before i turned off registration there, you can
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12:29 <uniusz> i see
12:30 <raisse> K2: did I ever register, or refrain from registering because I wasn't going to do anything on the forum anyway?
12:30 <K2> let me look
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12:32 <K2> raisse you have an account
12:32 <uniusz> ok my account is ready
12:32 <uniusz> lets play :)
12:32 <K2> nice uniusz
12:32 <K2> have fun!
12:32 <raisse> oh, then I might post some pictures if applicable :-)
12:32 <K2> raisse yes please do!
12:33 <K2> the first four galleries should be open for any registered user to submit to
12:33 <uniusz> here is nethack 1.3 also
12:33 <raisse> "in-game screenshots" is probably the relevant one for whatever I'd like to post
12:33 <uniusz> wat is that ?
12:33 <raisse> it's a very old version
12:34 <uniusz> 1.3d*
12:34 <uniusz> i see
12:34 <K2> uniusz 1.3d is the very first version of nethack
12:34 <uniusz> btw, why there is 3.6.2 not 3.6.1 ? nethack official site not mention 3.6.1...
12:34 <K2> circa 1987
12:34 <K2> uniusz because 3.6.2 is beta I suppose? dunno why they don't mention it
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12:35 <K2> but this is their official github repository - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack
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12:35 <K2> but this is their official github repository - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack
12:37 <uniusz> btw 18/** is better than 18/50 ?
12:37 <uniusz> what both means ?
12:37 <uniusz> in case of attrs
12:37 <K2> yes 18/** is better
12:38 <rld> <@rikersan> ** means 100
12:38 <K2> 18/99 then 18/**
12:38 <uniusz> oh i see
12:38 <raisse> but some races can't get higher than 18 (elf) or 18/50 (gnome)
12:38 <uniusz> so 18/** is like 19 ?
12:38 <raisse> almost, but once you're over 18 a couple of points don't make such a difference that you need to obsess over it
12:40 <uniusz> okay
12:41 <Chris_ANG> Lets see if I get the bot killed again...
12:41 <Beholder> Chris_ANG: Messages from @rikersan, AmyBSOD, LarienTelrunya, [Demo], PeterQ, and aosdict have been forwarded to you privately.
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12:42 <Chris_ANG> lol
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12:42 <rld> <@rikersan> oh hey welcome back chris
12:42 <K2> Chris_ANG when the hell will you tell me 'hey K2 there's a new version of dnethack'
12:42 <Chris_ANG> I think there needs to be a delay() or wait() or whatever added to the bot's code XD
12:43 <rld> <@rikersan> k2 it's absolutely not ready
12:43 <rld> <@rikersan> it crashes regularly
12:43 <K2> Chris_ANG there IS
12:43 <K2> and anything more than 2 messages goes to private messages for the user now
12:43 <K2> did you get anything?
12:44 <raisse> why does Chris_ANG kill the bot? or rather, how?
12:44 <Chris_ANG> Only the first three, it looks like
12:44 <Chris_ANG> Is there a wait() in the PM code?
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12:44 <K2> i'd need to look
12:44 <rld> <@rikersan> raisse: he takes prolonged leaves of absences, and I generally end up sending him 10-15+ messsages via beholder
12:44 <Chris_ANG> The bot is killed for Flooding me via PM, I think.
12:44 <raisse> ah right
12:45 <rld> <@rikersan> and that kills the bot cuz rate limits
12:45 <rld> <@rikersan> it's like an amystorm but without the bundling
12:45 <raisse> like human-type people are kicked for flooding
12:45 <raisse> without the bundling is an advantage
12:45 <rld> <@rikersan> oh absolutely
12:47 <uniusz> btw, human can be stronger than orc ?
12:47 <uniusz> wierd...
12:47 <LarienTelrunya> what do you have against bundling :(
12:48 <rld> <@rikersan> I am not a large fan of being bundled irl or by strangers on the internet ;/shrug
12:48 <rld> <@rikersan> I prefer minimal human physical contact
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12:48 <LarienTelrunya> but I'm not a stranger!
12:48 * LarienTelrunya bundles her brother rikersan :D
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12:51 <aosdict> @rikersan bundling over IRC is human _cyber_ contact
12:51 <uniusz> ok nice, no lags :)
12:51 <uniusz> !players
12:51 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] uniusz [nh362] AmyBSOD [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players
12:52 <rld> <@rikersan> aosdict: I mean you're not wrong but it's not physical contact :p
12:52 <uniusz> but... maybe a little bit...
12:53 <uniusz> I dont see IBM graphics in options
12:53 <uniusz> why ?
12:54 <K2> page 5 of 6
12:54 <K2> look for symset
12:54 <K2> can set it there
12:55 <rld> <@Demo> bundling is funny as shit, some roles should get it as a technique
12:55 <uniusz> symset ?
12:55 <K2> yes
12:55 <rld> <@rikersan> demo you also made ndnh your judgement is like officially supbar
12:55 <rld> <@rikersan> *subpar
12:55 <uniusz> what is that K2 
12:55 <Chris_ANG> K2: I don't suppose you still have those messages the bot was supposed to deliver?
12:55 <K2> Chris_ANG maybe? lemme look
12:55 <rld> <@rikersan> I can search the discord logs if you need chris
12:55 <uniusz> i cant found it
12:56 <uniusz> where to set this
12:56 <rld> <@rikersan> did you get hte one re: my weird drow gamebreaking bug?
12:56 <rld> <@Demo> I have so many bug reports for dnh
12:56 <rld> <@Demo> it's insane
12:56 <rld> <@Demo> did a lot of shit that turned up a lot of bugs
12:56 <K2> uniusz - you can use my cfg as a template. https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/k2.nh361rc
12:56 <rld> <@rikersan> yah but I'd like the completely gamebreaking ones fixed first
12:57 <uniusz> okay
12:57 <Pinkbeast> YANI: green fleece, contact gradually makes you fleecy
12:57 <uniusz> K2: but how to edit that now 
12:57 <uniusz> ?
12:57 <K2> Chris_ANG all the tell messages are stored in an sqlite3 db
12:57 <uniusz> How can i edit my config and where to do this K2 ?
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12:58 <K2> uniusz couple different options. 1) in the terminal menu, same way as how you connect (you'll see cfg edit option)
12:59 <Chris_ANG> Nope.  I got riker's about potions of monster detection and Amy's one about mounts
12:59 <Chris_ANG> However,
12:59 <K2> or 2) edit it via web here https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/rcedit-nh361/ and then you can sync it over to eu server
12:59 <rld> <@ChrisANG> I have Discord now too
13:00 <uniusz> K2:  i dont see cfg option
13:01 <uniusz> ok have it
13:01 <uniusz> btw, can i connect hdf via telnet ?
13:01 <K2> no
13:01 <K2> telnet is unsecure, that will never be an option here
13:01 <rld> <@rikersan> oh welcome to the cool side chris
13:02 <rld> <@rikersan> @ChrisANG in that case I'll probably try to send my messages via discord and then just 1 msg on beholder telling you I left some
13:02 <rld> <@rikersan> cuz then the load isn't on k2's bot
13:02 <K2> yeah but we need to look at the wait settings for the bot again
13:02 <K2> bleh
13:02 <uniusz> vim key movement
13:03 <uniusz> is number pad 0
13:03 <uniusz> ?
13:03 <rld> <@ChrisANG> Ok, yeah.  I think I figured out how to easily find all the "!tell Chris_ANG" lines over here, also.
13:03 <K2> i dont know, i prefer nano
13:03 <uniusz> i mean movement keys
13:03 <uniusz> in game ;p
13:03 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: Try it and find out? Incidentally, the spacebar and Enter key are not interchangeable.
13:03 <uniusz> hjkl
13:04 <uniusz> ok
13:04 <K2> ah
13:04 <uniusz> kk have it
13:05 <uniusz> can i play hdf via telnet instead of ssh ?
13:05 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: That was answered not 2 minutes ago.
13:05 <uniusz> okay
13:05 <Chris_ANG> Well, this is going to be a project XD
13:05 <uniusz> sorry
13:06 <uniusz> btw, i still have a little bit lags on eu.hardfought :(
13:06 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/server_status/network_tools/network_tool_hdf_eu/
13:06 <K2> where are you located uniusz?
13:07 <uniusz> K2: Warsaw
13:07 <K2> that link I just provided, you can have the eu server ping/traceroute/mtr to you, help you identify where any network issues may be
13:08 <uniusz> what should i do there ?
13:08 <uniusz> there is: Your IP Address: xxxxxxx
13:08 <uniusz> and i should paste that address below and do the test ?
13:08 <K2> yeah click on that and run a ping test
13:08 <K2> if you click on your ip it will auto populate
13:08 <uniusz> 15 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14104ms
13:08 <uniusz> Y
13:09 <K2> so ping is blocked on your end
13:09 <K2> try traceroute see how far it gets
13:10 <K2> the route will start at the eu server and work its way back to you as far as it can
13:10 <uniusz> K2: https://bpaste.net/show/ed50e342aa86
13:10 <K2> ping looks good up to where it ended
13:11 <uniusz> but sometimes is get lag
13:11 <K2> what do you get if you ping eu.hardfought.org?
13:11 <uniusz> ill do ping -c3
13:11 <uniusz> yes ?
13:11 <K2> just ping is fine
13:11 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: You might check to see if the lag affects eu and us simultaneously, etc; if it's your roommate torrenting the world (or whatever), not much that can be done.
13:12 <uniusz> only i use that internet
13:12 <K2> you're playing from poland, over at least 18 hops, who knows what kind of lag could be introduced from time to time along that route. thats something to consider
13:12 <uniusz> ping command not found
13:12 <uniusz> ^^
13:12 <K2> use the mtr function on that link i gave you
13:13 <K2> uniusz what OS are you using?
13:13 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: Hence "or whatever" to indicate that there are many causes of lag that may be local to you.
13:13 <uniusz> K2: archlinux
13:13 <K2> so in terminal, ping eu.hardfought.org
13:13 <uniusz> ping command not found
13:13 <K2> if ping command isnt found... hah
13:13 <uniusz> i dont have some package
13:13 <K2> you on a barebones copy?
13:14 <uniusz> barebones ?
13:14 <uniusz> no, maybe i delete it
13:14 <K2> barebones meaning a lite copy - not a lot installed
13:14 <uniusz> i have full installed
13:15 <uniusz> i just need to check which package provide ping command
13:15 <K2> ok
13:15 <uniusz> ok got it
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13:16 <uniusz> K2: 
13:16 <uniusz> https://bpaste.net/show/e31913f06922
13:16 <uniusz> https://bpaste.net/show/7f686e920b7d
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13:17 <K2> ok so mtr looks good up to what it can run against
13:18 <uniusz> so idk what is lag source
13:18 <K2> last hop that it cant get a response from is either at your isp or your own router
13:18 <K2> lag source is most likely local
13:18 <K2> to you
13:18 <uniusz> mhm
13:18 <K2> but... you're still under 100ms on average
13:18 <uniusz> what u mean by that ?
13:19 <K2> which is plenty fine for a game like nethack
13:19 <uniusz> it mostly works fine without lags, lag just happens sometimes...
13:19 <K2> what i mean is that the source of lag you're seeing is most likely localized
13:20 <K2> either something on your end or your isp
13:20 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: I've recommended a test; suggest you carry it out.
13:20 <uniusz> Pinkbeast: what test
13:20 <K2> are you tunneling at all via vpn?
13:20 <K2> or connected to tor?
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13:20 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: I think you will find this more productive if you actually read all the replies to you rather than ignoring half of them. Perhaps K2 will be able to help you.
13:21 <uniusz> K2: no vpn, no tor
13:21 <K2> alright.
13:22 <K2> well.. i wouldnt get too bent out of shape about a sub 100ms ping. there's room for improvement but i think you're ok
13:22 <uniusz> ok
13:22 <uniusz> so nothing to do ?
13:23 <K2> i would do what Pinkbeast had suggested
13:23 <K2> see if there are any causes to the lag on your end
13:24 <uniusz> How to see that ?
13:26 <uniusz> or how to check that
13:26 <K2> i dont know. i know nothing about your network setup
13:26 <uniusz> i dont know how to check that either
13:28 <uniusz> and i dont know what Pinkbeast suggest me ;p
13:28 <K2> basically what I said
13:28 <uniusz> Okay
13:28 <uniusz> so we check all
13:28 <uniusz> and all looks fine
13:29 <uniusz> i dont know what else can i do so ill do nothing
13:29 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: If you do this
13:29 <Pinkbeast> it's really annoying
13:29 <Pinkbeast> so I don't want to help you
13:29 <Pinkbeast> because I'm a miserable git
13:29 <uniusz> what is annoying
13:29 <Pinkbeast> Complete your thought before pressing Enter.
13:30 <uniusz> Okay, sorry, ill do that. So generally, all looks fine, and i dont know what else can i do in that case so ill do nothing and ill play how it is.
13:30 <K2> ok
13:30 <uniusz> This still works better than NAO
13:31 <uniusz> But it isnt really awesome... No. Its pretty annoying, its not well to play with that lags...
13:31 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: Also "you" is spelled thusly. Log into more than one server at once (Hardfought US, NAO, Crawl servers in the EU, etc). When the lag comes, play a few moves on each, do they all lag at once? If so you know the problem is local to you, or at any rate in the bits of traceroute that are the same for all those servers.
13:31 <uniusz> I want to do something with this, help me please
13:31 <K2> uniusz the pics you sent, i dont consider that laggy
13:32 <uniusz> Pinkbeast: But what that info give me ? If the problem is local or global ? That information gives nothing to me
13:32 <Pinkbeast> K2: Isn't the problem intermittent high lag?
13:32 <uniusz> problem is a problem
13:32 <uniusz> Important is how to fix that problem, not where it comes from
13:32 <K2> Pinkbeast yeah, but his mtr pic looked good too
13:32 <K2> he'd need to run it several times over a period of time
13:32 <K2> see if he can catch the 'lag'
13:33 <Pinkbeast> uniusz: Obviously it's easier to fix if you have an idea of where it happens.
13:33 <K2> uniusz we've done all we can do on our end
13:33 <K2> the server itself and the connection its on is certainly not laggy
13:34 <K2> if it were i'd never hear the end of it
13:34 <Chris_ANG> Ideas for hallucinatory sizes?
13:35 <K2> sizes?
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13:36 <K2> ^ that was me
13:36 <uniusz> And idk if even us server doesnt work better for me...
13:36 <K2> so for some reason... hdf email is not working. probably something very simple i have overlooked
13:36 <uniusz> if us server doesnt work better, this work very simillary to eu...
13:36 <rld> <@rikersan> chris_ang body plan or just size
13:36 <K2> uniusz i doubt it, hdf-us is much farther from you
13:37 <uniusz> yes it is farther
13:37 <uniusz> but works pretty much that same
13:37 <Chris_ANG> All of the above, really.
13:38 <Chris_ANG> Taking a moment to garble the body size/plan descriptions while hallucinating.
13:38 <uniusz> Now im playing nao, and compare to hdf-eu its works pretty much that same
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13:38 <uniusz> not really difference between us-nao and eu-hdf i see now...
13:40 <aosdict> definitely sounds like the lag is on your end then
13:47 <uniusz> but hmm, on nao im slowed down all the time
13:47 <uniusz> on hdf i have normal play and sometimes lag
13:48 <uniusz> !players
13:48 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] k2 [nh362] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players
13:48 <uniusz> bone files are shared between us,eu and au ?
13:50 <K2> yes
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13:52 <uniusz> nice
13:56 <Chris_ANG> Added Stone res to Glasya, not to Graz'zt, Aldinach, or Shaktari.
13:57 <rld> <@rikersan> ok chis did you get the bug report re: the drow branchporting thing?
13:57 <rld> <@rikersan> cuz I can't repro it still and I'm curious if you could
13:57 <Chris_ANG> Smoky violet faceless robe crash I must have fixed before XD.  Magic chests *should* be eatable by rock moles, it's evil :D
13:58 <Chris_ANG> Haven't reached that one in backscroll, maybe just copy it here?
14:00 <rld> <@rikersan> chris I'll discord pm it to you
14:00 <rld> <@rikersan> cuz it's kinda long
14:01 <uniusz> how to name object which is not in my inventory ? In example i found potion, i quaff it and i start to levitate, but potion vanished and now i want to name "puce potion" levitation, how can i do it ?
14:01 <rld> <@rikersan> it will have automatically identified if it was obvious
14:01 <rld> <@rikersan> otherwise, it will give you a prompt to name it
14:02 <aosdict> You can use the C command and then d to name something on your discoveries list.
14:02 <rld> <@rikersan> you can't otherwise name things you don't have tho
14:02 <aosdict> @rikersan false, in 3.6
14:02 <rld> <@rikersan> oh really?
14:02 <rld> <@rikersan> huh ok then
14:02 <rld> <@rikersan> I thought that was still only in fh
14:02 <rld> <@rikersan> and similar
14:03 <aosdict> it's not as strong as nethack4 (or fiqhack?)'s which lets you name *everything* on the discoveries list from turn 1 even if you've never seen it
14:04 <uniusz> damn ^^
14:04 <aosdict> uniusz: you really shouldn't crosspost questions to other channels if you've already been given an answer for them
14:06 <uniusz> why ?
14:08 <aosdict> two different channels are not going to give you substantially different answers, so it just creates noise
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14:09 <uniusz> yes but faster ill get answer
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14:17 <raisse> no, you won't, you'll just annoy the people who are in both channels
14:18 <raisse> also the short form of "I will" is "I'll", not "ill", ill means sick
14:18 <raisse> if you're too lazy to type the apostrophe you can spell it out in full, you're not paying by the letter I suppose
14:18 <rld> <@Theyflower> I'll agree that it's ill to xpost questions
14:19 <uniusz> okay, sorry
14:20 <uniusz> but that is my style :D
14:21 <raisse> then your style is ill-suited to this channel
14:23 <uniusz> ill-suited to you
14:23 <K2> and to me
14:23 <K2> uniusz we've tried to help you best we can, it's not our problem if you dont like the answer
14:24 <K2> you're more than welcome to play here, but dont cuase drama
14:24 <K2> *cause
14:31 <uniusz> okay
14:31 <uniusz> no problem
14:32 <K2> thanks
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14:36 <uniusz> !players
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14:36 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players
14:36 <uniusz> hey, this says Graznop is playing nh362 but he have nice gui
14:36 <uniusz> how he acquire that ?
14:37 <K2> looks like he's using curses interface
14:37 <rld> <@rikersan> curses interface
14:37 <K2> remember the link i posted earlier with my cfg?
14:37 <K2> towards the top it shows some curses interface settings
14:38 <K2> be warned, curses has some bugs still
14:38 <uniusz> nice
14:38 <uniusz> so nethack361 implement that interface or hdf server implement that ?
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14:40 <K2> hdf
14:40 <K2> vanilla nethack does not support curses
14:41 <uniusz> this curses doesnt work well for me, i dont see my equipement on right
14:41 <uniusz> when i play, but when i watch graznop play i see it...
14:42 <K2> thats one of the bugs
14:42 <K2> pickup or drop something it'll show
14:43 <uniusz> okay
14:43 <uniusz> nope, i drop and pick
14:44 <uniusz> and isnt show
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14:50 <rld> <@Luxidream> you don't have perm_inventory on
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14:53 <uniusz> #players
14:53 <uniusz> !players
14:53 <Beholder> uniusz: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players
14:59 <bug_sniper> !who
14:59 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] ultra [nh362]
14:59 <bug_sniper> same response I guess
15:01 <hothraxxa> !who
15:01 <Beholder> hothraxxa: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] ultra [nh362]
15:01 <hothraxxa> hmm
15:03 <PavelB> !who
15:03 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh362] uniusz [nh362] | [hdf-au] ultra [nh362]
15:03 <PavelB> :thinking:
15:05 <hothraxxa> are you thinking what i'm thinking? brain^h^h^h^h^hpavelb?
15:05 <Pinkbeast> Same thing we do every night, Anthy. Try to revolutionise the world!
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15:06 <hothraxxa> pinkbeast and the brain
15:06 <PavelB> I did not understand that reference
15:07 <hothraxxa> it's a catch phrase from pinky and the brain, a us cartoon series
15:07 <Pinkbeast> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Girl_Utena
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15:08 <PavelB> Woah, I watched that so much when I was younger, and I *never* actually knew what it was called
15:09 <hothraxxa> hm. my memory is faulty. should be pondering not thinking
15:10 <hothraxxa> https://youtu.be/Og2nUdtKncE
15:10 <K2> interesting first wish
15:10 <K2> but i can see that
15:11 <rebatela> such a powerful spell... 
15:11 <Beholder> rebatela: Message from K2 at 2018-06-13 21:25 EDT: you need to link your junethack account to hardfought otherwise your ascension on the hdf servers wont show on junethack
15:11 <K2> hah
15:11 <K2> old message ;)
15:12 <rebatela> yeah, haven't been on your server for a bit!  I need to start playing more variants (yet, here I am playing vanilla 3.62 lol)
15:12 <K2> heh
15:12 <K2> no worries
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15:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] vid (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 360 points, T:1221, killed by a wererat
15:17 <PavelB> rebatela: You should play xnh, it has a bunch of quality of life improvements but still feels like vanilla
15:17 <rebatela> pavelb: cool! i will check it out 
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15:17 <aosdict> yesss... more players....
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15:18 <PavelB> It's page on the nhwiki has all but the most recent changes
15:18 <PavelB> *Its
15:19 <aosdict> no, just all, I think
15:20 <PavelB> I don't think it has the most recent demon lord changes
15:20 <PavelB> Or am I wrong
15:20 <aosdict> yes it does, check the page history
15:20 <PavelB> Oh yeah I'm blind
15:21 <aosdict> and I need to fix "The artifact wishing formula have been changed... They depend..."
15:24 <rebatela> oh wait, xnh is your's aosdict right? I HAVE played it and like it very much! I'm going to give it another shot for sure 
15:25 <aosdict> neat!
15:25 <PavelB> Make sure to read about monster letter changes
15:25 <rebatela> ok !
15:25 <PavelB> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack
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15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Kill-Ration (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 40868 points, T:16363, killed by Mr. Izchak, the shopkeeper
15:33 <Pinkbeast> ^ tut tut
15:35 <aosdict> @Luxidream make sure to name your next char King Tut
15:36 <PavelB> Wish I could name my character on hdf in non-nitrohack variants
15:37 <rld> <@Luxidream> I will once I remember how to play nethack
15:37 <aosdict> It's one of those things that's annoying enough to do code-wise that Daniel Thaler was the only one willing to do it.
15:38 <PavelB> Isn't there just like, a `char *` somewhere that holds your name
15:39 <PavelB> aosdict: Feature-request: non-hostile monsters don't interrupt `_` travel, given you can displace them.
15:40 <aosdict> that feature request is either simple or mind bendingly hard and I don't know which it is
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16:01 <bouquet> I've always wondered... is encumbrance a sliding scale or is it's slowing effect quantized at each step - unencumbered, burdened, stressed, strained, overtaxed and overloaded?
16:01 <Pinkbeast> Quantised.
16:06 <bug_sniper> if you want sliding scales, you can play dungeon crawl
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16:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] vid (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1972 points, T:2000, killed by a rothe
16:11 <bouquet> no, I'm good :)
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16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] vid (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 420 points, T:881, killed by a gas spore's explosion
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16:52 <FIQ> aosdict: it originated in nethack4, fh merely added more objects to the list
16:52 <FIQ> it was mainly to add gray stones
16:53 <FIQ> jonadab: So you want centaurs to use unicorn strats and abuse their speed to fire and move away?
16:53 <FIQ> I think... that might make them too dangerous for when they appear
16:54 <aosdict> It's more interesting than the current same-old-same-old "attack attack attack, close to melee range and then swing your bow at him"
16:55 <Pinkbeast> Don't Spork centaurs do that?
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17:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 7220 points, T:4380, killed by a wolf
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2794 points, T:2850, killed by a rothe
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17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] vid (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 702 points, T:1513, killed by a gnome
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2549 points, T:3185, killed by a rothe
17:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 34 points, T:40, choked on a food ration
17:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 10 points, T:60, killed by a newt
17:48 <aosdict> someone apparently wants me to put a mind flayer *back* into a mines' end level
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 512 points, T:1083, killed by a dwarf
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18:02 <PavelB> wat
18:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] vid (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 533 points, T:901, killed by a giant spider
18:08 <aosdict> see the xnethack talk page
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18:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1090 points, T:2378, killed by a dwarf
18:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:8, choked on a food ration
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18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 750 points, T:2602, killed by a rabid rat
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law), 105484 points, T:16273, killed by a tail spikes
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:707
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18:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 815 points, T:1062, killed by a gnome lord
18:43 <bouquet> someone is dumb
18:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 5249 points, T:3755, killed by a gas spore's explosion
18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14663
18:53 <rld> <@Luxidream> aosdict: that person seems to like the minotaur in labyrinth mine's end
18:55 <aosdict> yes, this person has had good ideas before but this is silly
18:55 <rld> <@Luxidream> it seems to be more in the interest of making nethack the hardest game ever!!!1!1!!!
18:55 <rld> <@Luxidream> than actual gameplay
19:00 <bouquet> I found a shop with two doors!
19:01 <bouquet> I'm pretty sure the other door wasn't there the first time I visited.  A nymph who's been acting peculiar came through just now, though.
19:01 <PavelB> !whereis bouquet 
19:01 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] bouquet [xnh]: (Arc Gno Fem Neu) T:15470 The Gnomish Mines level: 6
19:01 <rld> <@Luxidream> minetown can have a shop with a back door
19:01 <bouquet> far out
19:01 <bouquet> same penalty for walking out without paying?
19:03 <aosdict> It's funny that the code takes so many pains to ensure that shops don't have multiple doors, but a) it can handle that anyway and b) they can appear in the wild.
19:03 <Pinkbeast> can handle that> where's the shk stand to stop you exiting?
19:03 <aosdict> he doesn't, he just calls the kops when you do
19:04 <aosdict> it handles it, as in, it doesn't crash or otherwise bug out
19:04 <hothraxxa> i had a back door in a shop once that led to a corridor 
19:04 <hothraxxa> this was vanilla
19:04 <aosdict> @Tone is it on your list of NetHack Fun Facts (tm) that closets always generate on the top and bottom edges of rooms but never on the sides?
19:05 <hothraxxa> there are a lot of closets without doors at all
19:06 <aosdict> that doesn't really affect what I said
19:07 <hothraxxa> why would it?
19:09 <PavelB> aosdict: Is this a list I can read somewhere
19:09 <aosdict> No
19:10 <aosdict> and I think you have asked that exact thing in the past
19:10 <PavelB> Oh yeah....
19:10 <aosdict> hothraxxa: Interestingly, I believe shops can generate with walled-off or iron-barred closets, because the code that determines if it's suitable for a shop just checks the number of doors.
19:12 <hothraxxa> never seen iron bars in a shop, not that they can't happen
19:13 <hothraxxa> i'm just always amused when i get clairvoyance and see all these closets without doors
19:14 <aosdict> YANI: In addition to scrolls of teleportation there, there's also some random item loot
19:14 <rld> <@Demo> any variants have directional light?
19:14 <rld> <@Tone> aosdict:  huh, didn't know that actually 😄
19:14 <rld> <@Tone> It's obvious in hindsight but I've never considered it
19:15 <aosdict> it's not uncommon to find a "closet" that goes out of a room sideways but is actually a failed corridor
19:15 <rld> <@Tone> I guess knowing that could help you rule out a scroll from being teleport if you assumed it was from a closet connected to a corridor
19:16 <rld> <@Tone> would have to be a death drop or bones level to find a scroll in a corridor to begin with though
19:16 <hothraxxa> he mentions stuff like that. here's one that i find annoying now that i know about it: there is a strong tendency to generate an up and down pattern
19:17 <hothraxxa> tone: not so. scrolls of teleportation randomly show up in corridors but it's quite rare
19:17 <hothraxxa> i found one in this game
19:17 <aosdict> hothraxxa: this is because it takes the rooms and tries to connect them left to right
19:17 <hothraxxa> yes you explained that
19:17 <aosdict> this is also why shops are nearly always on the right or left edge
19:18 <hothraxxa> i never noticed before you brought it up. now it annoys me
19:18 <rld> <@Tone> hothraxxa: Those scrolls only generate in closets though, right?
19:18 <hothraxxa> well shops have other restrictions that also favour the edges
19:18 <hothraxxa> this one did not. it was in a corridor not next to a room
19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1111 points, T:2091, killed by a bolt of cold
19:19 <hothraxxa> i suppose it could have been a drop by something my pet killed and ate
19:19 <aosdict> or there's a secret room
19:19 <hothraxxa> ah. good point
19:21 <hothraxxa> i hate when vlad's trapdoors wind up in a corridor 
19:22 <hothraxxa> that's happened to me a few times, but offly i don't remember ever stepping on a teleportation trap in the same way
19:22 <hothraxxa> er oddly
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 586 points, T:1333, killed by a wererat
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21:03 <rld> <@ChrisANG> Still way up in scrollback, but Echo is supposed to damage you or halve your level or something if you make noise around her.   Concave amulet should reflect her attack, convex amulet should dissipate it.  Stealth would allow you to melee her or something like that.
21:04 <rld> <@ChrisANG> Oh, that's really good for synathesia, actually.  Drum her to death from out of LoS.  She was being cut for lack of a good concept.
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21:07 <aosdict> Chris_ANG: rip all players who randomly get convex = change and concave = strangulation :P
21:10 <Chris_ANG> You're not supposed to kick open locked doors ANYWAY, they'll be fine ;)
21:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach66 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of vid, the former Digger, on T:6930
21:19 <rld> <@ChrisANG> Oops Re: Paimon stupidity, and re: cats going "baaaaaa"
21:19 <rld> <@ChrisANG> There was a deliberate fallthrough in the cat sound code >_<
21:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:20069
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21:29 <aosdict> "The cat goes baaaaa! The cat reaches out with its deadly touch. Do you want your possessions identified?"
21:32 <Chris_ANG> Another classic fallthrough, eh :)
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21:55 <tenbeers> hi
21:55 <Beholder> Hello tenbeers, Welcome to #hardfought
21:55 <tenbeers> ding!
21:56 <tenbeers> hm, I was right, my IRC client attempts to message NickServe too early. I will figure out how to tell it to identify a bit later.
22:04 <tenbeers> s/Serve/Serv
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22:16 <isha> if your client supports SASL, try setting that up instead, it's much more reliable
22:16 <isha> tenbeers: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat
22:16 <tenbeers> thanks!
22:18 <tenbeers> testing... brb
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22:19 <tenbeers> testing.
22:19 <tenbeers> hi
22:19 <Beholder> Hello tenbeers, Welcome to #hardfought
22:19 <tenbeers> success
22:20 * aosdict pings tenbeers
22:20 <tenbeers> isha, thx. I had seen the SASL stuff when I set up hexchat just days ago but didn't know it would work with freenode.
22:20 <tenbeers> hallo aos
22:20 <isha> \o/
22:20 <tenbeers> o/
22:20 <PavelB> Woah, I've never seen *someone else* with a profile pic on IRCCloud before
22:22 <aosdict> dang I missed my opportunity to send a message that was just / and continue the chain
22:24 <tenbeers> :D
22:24 <tenbeers> yep, fading stage left
22:24 <tenbeers> or wait, is that stage right in theatre parlance?
22:25 <tenbeers> yeah, stage right, spoken from the performer's perspective
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22:59 <K2> !who
22:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] tenbeers [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
22:59 <tenbeers> !potion K2
22:59 * Beholder pours K2 a droplet of healing, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at -19 degrees Celsius.
23:00 <K2> heh
23:00 <winny> !potion winny
23:00 * Beholder passes winny a vial of see invisible, conjured by demogorgon at 267 Kelvin.
23:00 <winny> :3
23:07 <aosdict> a droplet of healing is you need to roll a natural 20 to regain one hit point
23:08 <tenbeers> about 1.5ml, I guess
23:08 <tenbeers> it stands as a statement of impressively weak good intentions
23:13 <tenbeers> erm, I mean more like 0.15ml xD
23:13 <tenbeers> I was thinking of a thimblefull.
23:14 <bug_sniper> !beer tenbeers
23:14 <Beholder> bug_sniper: We're not here to f#%k spiders, mate!
23:14 <bug_sniper> !booze tenbeers
23:14 * Beholder throws tenbeers a barrel of moonshine, brewed by FCCBot at 186 Kelvin.
23:14 <tenbeers> lmao
23:14 <tenbeers> a whole barrel! thanks!
23:14 <bug_sniper> try not to drink it all at once
23:15 <tenbeers> drink? I'm going to dip all my scrolls in it!
23:16 <bug_sniper> what happens if you dip a scroll in booze?
23:16 <tenbeers> no idea
23:16 <tenbeers> i wonder if they blank
23:19 <tenbeers> they should become scrolls of Amnesia
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23:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3265
23:32 <bug_sniper> or scrolls that work as though you were confused
23:33 <aosdict> go home scroll, you're drunk
23:35 <K2> hmm
23:36 <K2> !who
23:36 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
23:38 <aosdict> I can see the tumbleweed rolling through
23:39 * tenbeers rides a saddled thunder lizard in distant dust storm
23:47 <K2> one on now
23:47 <K2> right when i wanted to reset network on server real quick heh
23:47 <K2> definitely a bit of a learning curve programming this edgerouter4
23:47 <K2> but this thing is bad ass
23:47 <K2> and its *fast*
23:49 <PavelB> A super beefy computer showed up at my dad's office earlier today and given he's been telling me about it for like an hour I assume it's like christmas came early there.
23:49 <PavelB> Apparantly, they RAID 0'd all the NVME SSDs together, but that caused File Explorer to crash upon trying to show disk capacity that big, and had to split it over several volumes.
23:50 <K2> how large was the array?
23:51 <PavelB> Well, each drive was 20 TB, and they had a box roughly 3 or 4 cubic meters holding them all.
23:51 <K2> hah
23:52 <aosdict> This sounds like a massive single point of failure just asking for a meteor to come smash it.
23:52 <PavelB> It has a seperate small computer inside running linux to regulate fans and power
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23:54 <PavelB> aosdict: Apparantly if it turns out they one ultra beefy computer ends up more effective than a ton of small computers, they're going to be buying a lot more of them for use in datacenters, but this first one is a trial one they get to test/have fun with.