00:06 Well, I would not feel so all alone... 00:09 AntiGulp: since I don't want to rig the whole quest text system yet, I currently just have it yelling "DEMON ENTRANCE! MWA HA HA" :D 00:10 To be fair, that IS in keeping with the tone of some nethack messages! 00:11 Like which ones 00:11 Other than hallumessages 00:12 hmmm I guess not any of the serious ones, but then again there are Rodney’s taunts and the pit viper messages 00:12 "Prepare to die, thou chucklehead!" 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 232 points, T:1057, killed by a kobold zombie 00:21 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:21 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Law), 154434 points, T:21267, killed by a troll 00:22 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 745 points, T:1521, killed by a pony, while praying 00:33 -!- hf_guest_23739 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:35 -!- hf_guest_18899 has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 -!- theRaisse has quit [Client Quit] 00:50 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 00:51 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:00 -!- dell30 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:04 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 01:09 -!- dell30 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:21 -!- s55 has joined #hardfought 01:21 Ꭺⅼlah іs dⲟiᥒg 01:21 -!- s55 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5219 points, T:4232, quit 01:28 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 180 points, T:723, killed by Ms. Possogroenoe; the shopkeeper 01:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 70 points, T:233, killed by a water demon 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1490 points, T:1593, killed by a giant ant 01:50 good grief, it's hard getting back into shape on this after a couple of years away 01:50 but I can see all the mistakes and gradually tighten up. 01:51 Out of curiosity, how'd you end up on hdf and not nao? 01:51 As far as I can tell most people are here for the variants 01:52 just followed team splat over 01:53 and may move into variants eventually 01:53 I'm here because of geographic location. 02:11 Is it a new thing in the 3.6 series that Minetown is never plain anymore, is almost always either wrecked or dark or other complications? 02:12 I remember in 3.4.3 that was a sometimes thing but not all the time. 02:20 it's got one new option (orctown) and I think some of the others have been changed a bit 02:21 but it's not always complicated! 02:23 I keep getting dark or broken ones. The only exception was when I got Orctown. 02:24 Used to be about 85% of the time (from what I seem to remember) it was just one of four or five typical towns. Threats around, for sure, but fairly regular geometry etc. 02:24 strange because except for orctown minetowns aren't usually broken 02:24 well, if there aren't dwarves with pickaxes running around 02:24 instead of broken I should have just said there seem to very very often be dwarves w/pickaxes. 02:25 Orctown that I got, I couldn't get into, never did find a door, but then eventually someone inside broke one of the sets of bars out of a window. 02:25 that was the one where my priest slaughtered like 35 orcs but died of hunger because only two of the corpses were in edible shape after that and nothing else came along while I was mucking around checking out all the equipment :P 02:26 the lack of doors in orctown is on purpose. 02:27 there's rather a lot of orcs in there, you want to be prepared before you pickaxe your way in. 02:27 Makes sense. 02:27 I would agree with the count of "rather a lot"! 02:27 otherwise it would be called poison instadeath town. 02:27 for sure! 02:31 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:31 drat. all the way to Minetown and no mithril. forgot that I hadn't even seen any, then I rushed off toward Sokoban but this won't do... 02:57 -!- MrPockets15 has joined #hardfought 02:57 Αlⅼah is doinɡ 02:57 sun is ᥒοt ⅾⲟiᥒg Alⅼɑh is ԁഠiᥒɡ 02:57 mഠon іs ᥒοt ԁⲟing Ꭺlⅼɑһ іs dοiᥒg 02:57 -!- MrPockets15 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:59 spam is not doing Sigyn is doing 03:08 indeed 03:11 I think this is the first time I've ever reached Expert in daggers while never better than AC 5 (mage, vanilla) 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10201 03:19 -!- hf_guest_18899 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 03:19 -!- hf_guest_18899 has joined #hardfought 03:46 TFW you learn the Identify spell but have shit for wisdom, terribad Pw regen 03:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12463 03:55 how did this wizard with In:13 ever get into wizard school? must be affirmative-action program for gnomes 03:57 failed to cast force bolt, got wasted by a jaguar in minetown 03:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Kni Hlf Mal Law), 1062 points, T:2294, quit 04:08 raisse: I don't think that's how affirmative action works? Have not been in a place where it exists though 04:09 maybe she got nibbled on my prof tentaculus the mind flayer after she enrolled 04:09 *by 04:10 raisse, I have avenged thee vs. a dwarf with broad pick in the mines. 04:11 I thank you for supplying the only suit of mithril for miles around, even though it'll be cursed 04:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 376 points, T:129, killed by a kobold mummy 04:11 unlikely you'll want to take it off anytime soon anyway! 04:14 attie: I almost got a job by affirmative action once 04:15 but refused because (a) I was uncomfortable about never knowing if it was on my own merits or only because I was a woman and (b) it was a Commute From Hell. 04:15 they sort of assumed everyone had a car, "can't you carpool?" 04:18 in my uni I got onto some "diversity" program, but the way it works is that *after* I was accepted, the uni stepped in and paid my stipend rather than it coming out of my prof's budget 04:19 felt kind of weird to be slotted under "diversity" because I'm white 04:19 but yes, I guess technically white people are a minority in china 04:19 our IT retraining class had 2 women and 1 Indian man so we were the "diversity" people 04:19 the rest was all white men 04:20 (and both of the women were white too but that's the majority in NL of course) 04:20 we have some chinese women and white men, but I'm the "unicorn" 04:21 the other woman and I were top of the class at the exams, and I know *those* weren't biased for diversity 04:22 then I ended up doing Lotus Notes in a weird little office at the back of a computer bookshop, and also running the shop, and translating computer books which I realised I liked much better so I kind of rolled into that 04:22 I don't think I have a programmer mindset (and I married one so I know about it) 04:23 but anyway the way "affirmative action" the actual university program (rather than the general idea that seems around) works from what I heard is to also include nontraditional qualifications in evaluation 04:24 so you can make your experience count if it convinces people that you'd do a good job in uni, even if your sat scores weren't good 04:25 ah, I thought it was a quota system "we have so many places for X" 04:25 no, those are illegal I think 04:25 you do hear rumors about unofficial quotas for asian students though 04:26 it's legal in NL to state "all other things being equal we hire the woman" 04:26 (but not "we hire the man") 04:26 because there are a lot of chinese people, therefore there are a lot of highly qualified chinese applicants 04:26 which is silly because there are lots of professions where *men* are the minority (teaching, nursing) 04:27 yeah it was very silly in my previous group when they hired a new secretary 04:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Vam Mal Neu), 449 points, T:1118, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 04:27 what does "unicorn" mean in that context? 04:27 impossibly rare 04:27 bhaak: so rare that no one believes you exist until they see you 04:27 ah 04:28 and even *after* they see you some people have difficulty believing that you really exist, and are what you seem to be 04:28 like a black swan event for people 04:28 I just wish my prof didn't actually introduce me to people as "the department myth" 04:28 I can imagine. like "you must have grown up in a household with 10 brothers and all were nerds" or something like that 04:28 I was the only woman in the Dutch club for people who do worldbuilding for fun for *years* and at *every* meeting I had to give "the woman's viewpoint" 04:29 as if I was representative of half of humanity 04:29 ergh 04:29 I don't get much of that luckily 04:30 -!- hf_guest_18899 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 04:31 the comments are usually random, not in work context 04:32 the worst thing was that some of the men insisted on generalizing from what I said, and were convinced that "women prefer X" because *I* happened to prefer X 04:32 and I'm quite an outlier in my preferences 04:32 ... 04:32 bad statistics. you can't do statistics with one sample 04:33 that goes even further. if you do have two samples but one differs from the preconveived opinion, one is declared the outlier 04:33 in that case everyone in my department must secretly think that women are hardcore about cheese 04:33 don't asians think that about white people anyway? 04:34 possibly 04:34 but mostly they don't know what cheese is 04:34 literally the only "cheese" sold in most supermarkets here is kraft singles 04:35 how do you explain it? as gross as possible or truthful? :) 04:35 so the prevailing opinion is "I don't get why white people like cheese, it tastes awful" 04:35 well yes 04:35 "milk that has been out in the open for so long it turned squeeshy or even hard" 04:35 -!- hf_guest_23739 has joined #hardfought 04:36 aren't 80% or so of chinese people lactose intolerant anyway? 04:37 oh, cheese slices. are they for melting purposes? the wikipedia article isn't clear about that 04:37 depending on your definition of intolerant 04:37 raisse: hard cheese doesn't have much lactose left. AFAIK most lactose intolerant people can eat it 04:37 yeah cheese is fine 04:37 especially hard cheese 04:37 oh right, like my spouse who can eat most cheese unless it's very milky 04:38 but fresh milk is sold in large quantities here so 04:38 I only had one colleague who had to seriously watch it 04:38 my daughters had a chinese school friend and I used to make milkless pancakes when she came over 04:38 (anyway, that's how we found out that our youngest is lactose intolerant too) 04:38 but then milk tea is the national (if the CCP will pardon the usage) drink here 04:39 probably a lot of people in HK have some british ancestry 04:39 yes, figures 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14428 04:47 right, here's a breakdown https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1392383 04:47 most people are unable to digest lactose, but very few have any reaction to it 04:48 and I guess "I derive less nutrition from this food" is considered a bonus these days... 04:51 ^_^ 04:53 that's a nice literacy lesson! 05:01 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:02 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:04 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 05:11 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18218 points, T:11783, killed by a panther 05:14 -!- tenbeers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 i wonder how minscoring works in 3.6.1 05:38 3.6.2* 05:38 -!- Junaos17 has joined #hardfought 05:38 Alⅼah iѕ doinɡ 05:38 -!- Junaos17 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:38 allah is doing minscoring? 05:39 allah is spamming 05:39 that's not nice of him 05:39 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:40 how is 362 changing scoring? I haven't looked at the changes at all yet 05:40 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 05:40 no idea, i wonder if the strategy would be different 05:41 spontiff is not around here unfortauntely 05:42 pacifist is probably more nasty if you can't E 05:42 you can E as long as you're not illiterate 05:42 and use scare mosnter in gehennom 05:43 hm yeah as minscore is pacifist anyway, the 3.4.3 -> 3.6.2 Elbereth changes doesn't matter 05:44 probably even more powerful now with ?oSM as you said 05:44 wishing for "glob of grey ooze" failed even though grey ooze is recognized as a variant spelling for gray ooze 05:44 *how* did someone discover that 05:44 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.4/20180713174829]] 05:44 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 05:44 wishing for "enchant armour" does work 05:45 and "grey dragon scale mail" 05:46 wasn't there another bug related to glob of foo? 05:47 early on globs of black pudding didn't give resistances I think 05:47 gah, my statushilight for gold doesn't work any more 05:47 I inadvertently imported my us rc so there's probably the old directive in there and it doesn't work 05:48 C360-90 fixed You can't wish for globs of a particular size. 05:48 what is that even supposed to mean 05:48 "small glob" probably doesn't work 05:48 i didn't know there was a difference between glob and small glob 05:48 they start out being "small globs of black pudding" but if you kill enough puddings they coagulate into a "large glob of black pudding" 05:48 I've never seen a glob that wasn't small, not even after several globs coalesced 05:49 ah, right 05:49 aah! 05:49 never had that many globs 05:49 that's actually a cool thing imo 05:49 why is "glob" such a silly word 05:49 new goal of pudding farming, achieve a large glob 05:49 and eat it! 05:49 ascend with it! 05:49 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:49 raisse, i find it very onomatopoeic (sp) 05:49 it rots away so you have to hurry 05:50 they do? never seen them do it 05:50 a glob makes a 'glob' sound when its globbed around 05:50 they do go bad but don't rot away afaik 05:50 oh really 05:50 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:50 I just assumed, I've never carried around a glob for long 05:50 you get "this protoplasm is tainted" when you eat it after it's gone bad 05:52 I'm now wondering if -hai isn't a plural ending 05:53 so you have one Uruk, two Uruk-hai 05:53 or even one Uruk, two Uruks, several Uruk-hai if it's a collective ending 05:54 close 05:54 The name "Uruk-hai" has the element Uruk, which is a Black Speech word related to Orc, related to the word "Urko" in Tolkien's invented language of Quenya. The element hai means "folk", so "Uruk-hai" is "Orc-folk". 05:54 (wikipedia) 05:54 so you can't have one Uruk-hai 05:55 (well, you can, one almost killed me just now) 05:55 time for a bug report! 05:56 http://www.thetolkienforum.com/index.php?threads/uruks-vs-uruk-hai.2146/ 05:56 same for olog-hai 05:57 I suppose weresharks are shark-hai 05:58 :| 06:00 oh great 36 pages of intense scholarly flamewars on the subject 06:03 I love how extra tolkien fandom is 06:06 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 06:07 What do you want to eat? [txT or ?*] 06:07 eating my words? 06:08 eating the whole fortune cookie to avoid literacy 06:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:16 putting on a blindfold to eat the fortune cookie to avoid literacy 06:20 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:43 -!- tacco| has quit [] 07:02 -!- hjf has joined #hardfought 07:02 Αllah іs ԁοіnɡ 07:02 -!- hjf has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:06 attie: on the other end of the wish-bug-discovery scale, you would have thought that someone before me would have discovered at some point that you can't wish for an orange, but here we are :) 07:08 its a travesty 07:11 hah! aosdict - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/9eb783081977d6754348a3f71196a1581d2d1d26 07:11 13 hrs ago 07:12 random orc name generator :o 07:12 you can't wish for an orange? huh 07:12 because there's also orange dragon scale mail? 07:13 dear hjf, that wasn't Allah, it was Ishtar 07:13 wait what is this insane orctown commit 07:13 keep your deities straight 07:13 it's insane! it's brilliant! 07:13 orcses with meaningful inventory! 07:14 whats with that orc boss 07:14 wow we get a first glimpse at unique boss monsters 07:15 gonna try and merge now 07:15 bah i have to put mini-me on the bus in 5 min 07:15 K2: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. 07:15 aosdict: yeah! 07:16 wonder how that would merge into xnh 07:16 given your changes 07:16 ok but the loot is boring 07:16 silver saber is nice 07:17 and random gloves? 07:17 how does that even work lol 07:18 K2: it will smash into xnh and be awful 07:18 my refactor for generating dead monsters in a level will not be affected thankfully 07:19 ha did this get prompted by https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/127? 07:19 no merge conflicts with 362-hdf 07:20 I can't merge vanilla anymore until I have some time to sit down and give it a lot of attention 07:21 crap, error on compile 07:21 w/ curses 07:21 ok bbl 07:26 curses to curses 07:27 i wonder if we should do another ultimate nethack survey 07:27 but a bit better 07:28 the old one was a bit lackluster https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqgolClo6ZAOsulein7WCRTZXWGHlWXcF0k9clHcNEnDTBKQ/viewanalytics 07:42 <@kritixilithos> I am surprised more people chose numpad than vikeys 07:43 me too 07:44 nah, it's all the young whippersnappers who didn't grow up with vi 07:44 (or classic platform games) 07:45 also 64% downloaded vs. 30% NAO 07:45 i wonder if we can interpolate total number of nethack players from that 07:48 <@kritixilithos> I used to use numpad until I figured out the vikeys option you can set 07:53 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:55 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 08:10 ok isp tech is here for the upgrade 08:10 i'll let everyone know when we're about to go down (hdf-us only) 08:15 ok going down in just a minute 08:15 !who 08:15 K2: [hdf-us] rootkit [nh362] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:59 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 08:59 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Slash'EM 0.0.8E0F2 is now available for play! 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 08:59 !tell AntiGulp When inserting the demon lord messages, why did you move QT_BANISHED up rather than just putting them on top of it? 08:59 Will do, aosdict! 09:18 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 09:18 -!- karatkievich.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Slash'EM 0.0.8E0F2 is now available for play! 09:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:25 <@Tone> Very nice K2 09:26 <@Tone> Not sure how I feel about the orc town commit, I need to read the details 09:27 <@Tone> I think most people just want frontier town back, not a "multi level orc town experience" 09:29 definitely should get some playtesting 09:32 the orctown commit is confusing 09:32 so there will be a boss monster generated with a bit of loot 09:32 and it gets placed somewhere in the explored mines levels 09:32 I'm truly very excited about the new internet lol 09:33 and that's about it? 09:33 seems a bit underwhelming 09:33 stennowork: continuing the trend of when we ask the devteam for something, they come up with something completely different that tangentially addresses the issue and that no one asked for? 09:34 I don't see where the boss monster comes in from the commit description 09:34 And I like the orctown change. Having a boss monster is cool and being able to recover much of what was in minetown, even if it's across multiple levels, is totally fine by me since clearing orctown takes a good amount of preparation anyways so by that point you should in theory, be able to clear to mines end 09:34 well as i said before, what is really interesting here is that we get a glimpse on how to implement named unique boss mobs with a loot pool 09:34 oh6: if you read the changes in the code, there's a name generator and stuff for orcs added in 09:35 there is a 'gang of orcs' which took the minetown loot and get spawned on existing levels 09:35 having unique monsters with better loot is my favorite feature of angband and to see something similar come over to nethack has me very excited 09:36 stennowork: I'm still failing to see how the loot is significantly better than the minetown scraps that already existed. 09:36 yeah the loot is super poor 09:36 but are those randomized gloves? 09:36 that could be interesting 09:36 i'd expect only leather gloves 09:37 for loot we have: 09:37 d3+1 random candles 09:37 silver saber 09:37 is nice-ish too 09:37 d2+1 keys 09:37 oho we get monsters with keys 09:37 either a long sword or a silver saber, 50% each 09:38 that's also interesting 09:38 those can unlock doors 09:38 1 randomized gloves 09:38 alas, no doors in the mines lol 09:38 d9 stacks of orcish food items 09:38 ... and that's it. 09:38 that's *awful* loot. 09:39 and the code is written in a way that's NOT reusable 09:39 they need to refactor it 09:39 I'm certain that's the plan 09:39 it's the response to https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/127 09:39 This is just for beta testing 09:40 and xnethack gets mention 09:40 where? not in the commit msg 09:41 oh my bad 09:41 are you copperwater? 09:41 in the GH issue 09:41 this does *not* have the xnethack seal of approval 09:41 yes I am 09:41 it seems that the patch was inspired by your statement though 09:41 also scatter 9 tools, 4 food items, and 6 lighting supplies (according to the ransacked Frontier Town's map) randomly around the town. This effectively gives you all the loot of the level without having to commit murder for it 09:42 It's a small increase in risk - the orcs will pick up and use some of the scattered gear - but a huge increase in reward. 09:42 well I described exactly what I did to make orctown popular with PavelB and bouquet and others (ignoring the barricaded shopkeeper, I intentionally didn't mention that in the issue), which is what you just pasted 09:42 and then they didn't add that loot 09:43 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:43 in sum: this would be much improved by adding the shops' items to those loot list statements 09:43 if the orcboss had 9 random tools that would be epic 09:44 and also more watchman gear than just one sword and one pair of gloves 09:44 eh 09:44 hm 09:44 at least we get random gloves and not leather (what watchmen spawn with) 09:44 i think the watchman-inspired loot is fine 09:44 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 09:45 but wtf are you going to to do with 3 keys 09:45 must be pure flavor 09:45 probably 09:45 presumably they were stolen from the dead shopkeepers 09:46 maybe you don't find all of the key carrying orcs 09:46 also the loot is not carried by the orc boss alone, right? 09:46 it's carried by all the orcs together 09:47 someone go playtest it (if K2 has updated, not sure) 09:47 like it gets distributed over all the orcs 09:47 I think if they wanted the "right" loot, they'd need to generate a non-orctown normally, then procedurally trash it 09:47 can you generate shop loot simply without a shop actually existing? 09:47 probably not, knowing nethack 09:48 -!- kozet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 09:49 ok the commit says that its a kludge hardcode and that it needs to be refactored 09:49 but like, why not do it properly to begin with, or not at all 09:49 fyi all - conenction to hdf-us might go down again within the next 2-3 hrs, new modem may pull down and apply a firmware update 09:49 this is how legacy baggage gets created 09:49 big maybe, but at least you wont be surprised 09:49 downtime would be 10 min or so if it happens 09:50 <[Demo]> Ok thanks 09:50 having a generalized way to create unique mob bosses would be so huge 09:51 reminds me of when I updated my work laptop after talking to IT about it crashing every five minutes when unplugged 09:52 vendor tool reflashed the bios and rebooted twice 09:53 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 356710 points, T:49116, killed by the Cyclops 09:53 oh snap 09:53 :( 09:53 oops 09:53 staff is nasty 09:54 <[Demo]> damn 09:54 certain scenarios in vanilla that might be easy or just slightly difficult can be real problems in sporkhack 09:55 <[Demo]> Yeah sporkhack is the hardest nethack variant 09:55 staff is still nasty in vanilla 09:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o K2] by ChanServ 09:55 true 09:55 probably the most dangerous quest nemesis after Kaen 09:55 <[Demo]> I still think spork is way harder than grunt 09:56 spork has a lot of good ideas about balancing 09:56 and some crappy ones 09:56 <[Demo]> spork is if you somehow haven't died by astral, die 10:00 <[Demo]> I like easy variants 10:01 -!- eth228 has joined #hardfought 10:01 Αⅼⅼаh is ԁоіᥒg 10:01 -!- eth228 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:02 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:03 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 10:03 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 10:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Dro Mal Neu), 1145 points, T:2166, died of starvation 10:20 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 10:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 10:34 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:40 !tell AntiGulp I'm trying my hand at the other entry messages I mentioned, but would like your feedback since I am not at all a writer. 10:40 Will do, aosdict! 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3422 10:47 heh... my ping from work to hdf-us improved by 15ms 10:47 from 45ms to 30ms 10:47 NOT GOOD ENOUGH 10:47 :P 10:49 Tangles, I'm real curious what your latency is to hdf-us now 10:49 it dropped by roughly 100ms from here to hdf-au 10:51 K2: set up a absolute-zero superconductor circuit to your house to achieve 0ms ping 10:54 i could setup a subspace field with a tachyon flux repeater for faster-than-light data transmission 10:54 <@kritixilithos> 10000000000000 frames per second, fastest game ever 10:54 you'd die before you sat down to play 10:55 aosdict: I do get less than 1ms ping when I play ;) 11:00 K2: ping hardfought.org 11:00 PING hardfought.org (24.2.155.198) 56(84) bytes of data. 11:00 64 bytes from c-24-2-155-198.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (24.2.155.198): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=159 ms 11:00 64 bytes from c-24-2-155-198.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (24.2.155.198): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=160 ms 11:00 64 bytes from c-24-2-155-198.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (24.2.155.198): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=157 ms 11:01 where are you PavelB? 11:01 Seattle 11:01 Approximatly 11:01 what kind of connection? 11:02 Wi-Fi, and I'm not sure how to check for any other information 11:02 Ping to eu is around 170 11:03 aosdict: I could give you some feedback :3 11:03 so real easy step on your end - open up your web browser, do a search for 'my ip', plenty of sites that can easily tell you your public ip address 11:03 private message it to me, i'll run a traceroute to it 11:03 PavelB: feedback for what 11:04 Messages 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 5175 points, T:8011, killed by a dwarf zombie 11:11 -!- WARlrus19 has joined #hardfought 11:11 Αⅼⅼаһ iѕ doinɡ 11:11 sᥙn is not doiᥒg Aⅼⅼaһ iѕ ⅾοinɡ 11:11 mooᥒ iѕ ᥒot doing Аlⅼah іs doⅰᥒg 11:11 -!- WARlrus19 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:84 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 118 points, T:517, killed by a kobold zombie 11:16 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:17 <[Demo]> there should be healing kobolds 11:17 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:20 ? 11:22 <[Demo]> I'm not sure they like heal each other and stuff 11:31 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31 -!- icytrues has joined #hardfought 11:31 Aⅼlah is doing 11:31 suᥒ iѕ not doing Alⅼah ⅰѕ dⲟіᥒɡ 11:31 -!- icytrues has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1087 points, T:1523, killed by a giant ant 11:34 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1629 11:47 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 11:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 705 points, T:2155, killed by a hill orc 11:48 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:48 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:49 NetHack 362-hdf updated (all servers) 11:49 ^ orctown changes 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3151 11:58 I'll bet aosdict is looking forward to resolving orctown merge conflicts 12:00 :) 12:01 PavelB: Actually, it doesn't touch mines.des so there won't be any conflicts with that. 12:02 ...well then. 12:02 How *are* you planning on merging the changes? 12:02 after they have seen some exposure in vanilla 12:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:5159 12:14 -!- hatifnatt has joined #hardfought 12:14 Αlⅼaһ іs doing 12:14 suᥒ is ᥒot doing Αllɑһ is doіnɡ 12:14 -!- hatifnatt has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:18 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22 If I have a pet lich will it eventually grow up into an arch-lich 12:23 <@Theyflower> Ooh is that foreshadowing something we will see in tnnt? 12:26 @Theyflower What is? 12:26 <@Theyflower> The thing about merge conflicts in orctown 12:27 i dont think so 12:27 the devteam has nothing to do with tnnt 12:27 at some point we'll merge the new changes into tnnt code base 12:28 @Theyflower I was reffering to aosdict's orctown changes in xnethack 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (electric eel), on T:25908 12:29 Half tempted to not use up this magic lamp just for the infinite light source 12:36 -!- hf_guest_98327 has joined #hardfought 12:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4842 points, T:2497, killed by a rabid rat 12:41 latest vanilla changes are in tnnt build now 12:42 neat 12:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:43 HAH 12:44 the wishing for an orange bit was fixed 12:44 saw that 12:49 MAKE ORCTOWN GREAT AGAIN 12:50 * hothraxxa hands out moga buttons 12:50 damned activist developers 12:57 rofl 13:03 fake news 13:04 alternative facts 13:04 K2: PatR seemed to think in the commit message that you could actually get an orange given enough wishes 13:04 never happened to me though 13:04 hah 13:04 wiztest, go 13:05 How do you think I found this in the first place? wiztesting 13:05 modify a nethack bot, program it to only wish for oranges 13:05 1,000,000 attempts 13:07 -!- hf_guest_98327 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 13:07 I think the NH4 test harness could probably be made to do that. 13:10 -!- hf_guest_98327 has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- dparrish has joined #hardfought 13:12 Allɑh iѕ dοing 13:12 -!- dparrish has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:14 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 13:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 13:17 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 13:33 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 13:36 Has anyone seen Amy lately? I need to ask her a slex question. 13:36 FlamingGuacamole: Message from K2 at 2018-09-16 10:57 EDT: tnnt registration will most likely occur within 2 weeks out from go time. there'll be an announcement beforehand 13:38 hill orc called Zaiulu of Ubaneu 13:38 hill orc called Agoraiul of Ubaneu 13:39 who, between them, killed me 13:39 so I didn't get the chance to go further down 13:43 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:44 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Cam Dra Fem Cha) shouted "ok google send a text", on T:276 13:45 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Cam Dra Fem Cha) shouted "i need a shovel", on T:325 13:47 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 13:48 FlamingGuacamole havent seen her today yet but she's been around 13:52 raisse oh neat 13:52 new and improved orctown i take it 13:53 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:54 yes but these were hill orcs near the stairs so I didn't see the new and improved town (or the mess below it) 13:54 ah 13:54 i dont think the map itself was changed 13:55 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 13:55 got mauled by Agoraiul and finished off by Zaiulu 13:55 bastards 13:55 but it's my own fault, I'm spamming arcs to dig down 13:55 nope, no .des changes 13:57 anyone ever seen this before? (slex message when i died) A problem has been detected and NetHack has been shut down to prevent damage to your sanity. The problem seems to be caused by the following file: SLASHEM.EXE YET_ANOTHER_STUPID_DEATH (DYWYPI?) If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your game. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any equipments 13:57 or spells is properly installed. If this is a proper installation, ask your cheat or spoiler manufacturer for any spoilers you might need. If problems continue, remove any newly created save files (if explore) or bone files. Disable bad options such as rest_on_space or autopickup. If you need to use Explore Mode to remove or disable components, restart your game, press X to select Explore Mode Options,and then 13:57 select Yes. Technical information: *** STOP: 0x0000DEAD (0x44, 0x75,0x64, 0x6C, 0x65, 0x79) *** SLASHEM.EXE - Address DLVL1 base at MAINDUN,DateStamp 20150401 [ynq] (n) 13:58 that's part of the game i think 13:58 i know, but does it mean anything? 13:58 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Cam Dra Fem Cha), 1063 points, T:851, killed by a monster (human mummy) 13:58 amy thought adding error messages to the game would be fun 13:58 dunno if its something you need to pay attention to or not 13:59 It's probably a nasty trap showing random messages 14:01 Or it may just randomly happen upon death sometimes 14:05 <[Demo]> !pom 14:05 [Demo]: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 5 days. 14:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] Ssach (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 20 points, T:217, killed by kicking a wall 14:07 -!- hf_guest_98327 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:09 FlamingGuacamole: why did you decide to create a new object class for those odd key things 14:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:10 idk, i didn't fell like putting them in with ( 14:10 yeah but not everyone's terminal can show pi 14:11 open to suggestions 14:12 also, pi looks like the end of a key, like 0-π 14:12 kinda 14:12 I feel like creating an entirely new object class is extremely bug-prone (you'll get a lot of impossibles from switch statements that assume the existing ones are the only ones that exist, for instance). Also rendering bugs, not knowing what to show it as (the actual object class character isn't linked to the display code). 14:16 why does objclass.c have GOLD_SYM, ILLOBJ_SYM, etc. then? 14:17 !lastgame Ssach 14:17 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Ssach/slashem/dumplog/1537380232.slashem.txt 14:19 apparently that is the place to define symbols for object classes 14:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] FlamingGuacamole (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 269 points, T:221, killed by a newt 14:21 top of the leaderboard! :P 14:22 aosdict: yes. symbols for object classes. which is how they are displayed. 14:22 heh 14:23 but then you need to make sure to also define it in drawing.c for its farlook text, etc 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1204 points, T:3186, killed by a cave spider 14:26 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.4/20180713174829]] 14:32 if i define them in drawing.c is that all i need to do for it to display correctly? 14:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 14:33 my point was, there are a lot of places in the code that would not react well to a new object class, and they're not easy to find 14:35 k 14:35 completely off topic: what does vivardoradorium mean? 14:36 is this a slex question? 14:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:18598 14:39 lol yes 14:40 some type of material I guess? 14:40 heh 14:40 yes but what does it MEAN? 14:40 surprised there isn't 'bundleanium' 14:40 FlamingGuacamole: the world may never know 14:41 don't give amy ideas. if she watches the logs, we will never be free from bundling 14:42 I searched for it on duckduckgo, and got only slex results. my name appears in the third search result (someone's irc pastebin :D) 14:42 heh 14:43 google only has a few results, all slex related. (i saw the pastebin btw. funny) 14:43 amy has incorporated a couple of my joke ideas before 14:44 such as '50shadesofgrayswandir' and 'plaidswandir' 14:44 fleecyswandir? 14:44 and some type of bundle golem thing too (makes me think of 'cousin it' from the adam's family 14:44 aosdict lol 14:45 [hallu-color]swandir 14:47 just found a ref to vivardoradorium in the very first irc log from here, about a month ago. its just a random metal name Amy made up 14:48 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2017-08-04-15:10.log 14:49 k2: veryverydarkgreyswandir 14:50 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:51 lol 14:51 batman: i only work with blackswandir. 15:08 darkerthanblackswandir 15:09 wtfswandir 15:09 i think that summarizes slex 15:09 brighterthanwhiteswandir 15:09 ultravioletswandir 15:09 hooloovooswandir 15:09 octarineswandir 15:09 ^ that 15:10 intelligent shades of blue lol 15:10 Aren't those already covered by [hallu-color]swandir? 15:10 Hooloovooswandir is, of course, an intelligent artifact. 15:10 Naturally. 15:10 you know what else is an intelligent artifact? me 15:10 Actually, it should be superintelligent, and blast you any time you look at it. Even farlook. 15:10 lol 15:11 751nmswandir 15:11 #f183d5swandir 15:12 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:12 agswandir 15:12 constructionworkeryellowswandir 15:13 schoolbusyellowswandir 15:13 aquamarineswandir 15:13 wizardswandir 15:13 i could do this all day 15:13 i have nothing else to do today, so why not? 15:13 clayswandir 15:14 yayswandir 15:14 did we say "bundleswandir" yet? 15:14 nope 15:14 I think you mean Excalibundle 15:15 rofl 15:15 turn all the *banes into *bundles 15:15 fleecybrand 15:15 ogrebundle, trollsbundle etc 15:15 lol 15:15 hahah fuck i am laughing out loud for real 15:15 Stormbundler 15:15 co-worker here gave me a weird look 15:15 which isnt really uncommon 15:16 The Longbundle of Diana 15:16 quiver of fleecy arrows 15:16 K2: you're on irc at work? shame on you 15:16 The Orb of Fleece 15:16 hell yeah i am 15:16 <[Demo]> what this is great 15:16 The Eye of the FleecyBundle 15:17 it's not as good as the legendary *sh'em Extended conversation, but still good 15:17 Pinkbeast: 'stormbundler' sounds kinda kinky. like it 15:17 The *brand artifacts: Fire Brand, Frost Brand, Fear Brand, Faith Brand, Fleece Brand, and Bundlebundlebundle Brand. 15:18 amy is going to lose her shit when she reads this 15:18 Brand Brand, which mutters "sponsored by Coca-Cola" all the time 15:18 slex update soon... 15:18 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Quit: Your purse feels lighter.] 15:18 hah 15:19 Have we had the Bundle of Opening? 15:19 omg thats awesome 15:19 candelebundle 15:19 Bundleabrum of Invocation 15:19 and the book of the fleecy 15:20 aosdict thats even better 15:20 'the book of the fleecy bundlebundlebundle' 15:20 and some utf8 hearts after it 15:21 The Master of Fleece 15:22 you cads! do you realize what you're doing? 15:22 think of the poor future slex players 15:22 who will have to endure all of these things 15:22 Presumably SLEX players like these kinds of things 15:22 slex players are less "poor", more "voluntarily insane" 15:23 * hothraxxa bundlebundlebundles your disdain 15:23 The Fuwafuwa Bandoru of Muramasa 15:24 loosley translated from 'fleecy bundle' 15:25 oh man 15:25 i am spent 15:25 i lied, i cant do this all day 15:26 but I *want* to 15:28 The Bungeons of Doom 15:30 The Bunions of Doom? 15:31 I've seen some pretty bad bunions in my life... 15:32 I plugged 'fleecy bundle' into an elf name generator 15:32 Aredhel Amalanya 15:32 My mom's bunions got so bad she had to have corrective surgery, to bring her toe back around to a more-or-less correct position. Without the surgery, she would've eventually become unable to walk. 15:32 !tell LarienTelrunya i tried to stop them and look what happened! 15:32 Will do, hothraxxa! 15:32 lol 15:32 !tell LarienTelrunya i'm not like those others 15:32 Will do, hothraxxa! 15:32 !tell LarienTelrunya yes he is 15:32 Will do, K2! 15:32 !tell LarienTelrunya No comment, just hopping aboard the amy train 15:32 Will do, aosdict! 15:33 oh my 15:33 first instance of !tell abuse 15:33 this is most definitely not the first 15:33 !tell LarienTelrunya EPI: Bunions of Doom. Walking makes them worse. Eventually you start taking damage every time you take a step. And the amount of damage keeps getting worse with every step. 15:33 Will do, jonadab! 15:34 jonadab: I just noticed your weapon_onames patch didn't include "%s of Doom". Fixing that now... 15:34 and with bunions of doom, you can't wear SHOES 15:35 and the ground turns into lego pieces 15:35 K2: Heh. 15:35 does your daughter scatter legos around the house? 15:35 All children do a certain amount of that. 15:35 does the sun rise and set each day? 15:36 Here they can only scatter Lego around the house 15:36 the living room coffee table is currently smothered in legos 15:36 I mean, if they don't have legos, they will use other small objects. 15:36 mini-me knows she has to do something about it tonight 15:36 Tinker Toys, back in the day. 15:36 i remember tinker toys 15:36 and linkin logs 15:37 tinker toys are more pleasant to step on accidentally 15:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:37 Four-sided dice, whatever you've got handy that's small. 15:37 Jacks. 15:37 hah 15:38 Marbles. 15:38 if you're being chased, those actually work 15:38 either/or 15:38 Sokobundle 15:38 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:38 hahah 15:39 <[Demo]> use two coins as 4 sides dice 15:41 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 15:41 marbles can be quite painful to accidentally step on K2, even at low speeds 15:42 <[Demo]> fuck stepping on marbles holy shit 15:42 i'd throw down a combo of jacks, marbles and legos 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:28143 15:42 take that ninjas chasing me 15:42 Ninja: "Er, I was on the ceiling. Sorry." 15:42 :) 15:44 YANI: new nethack tool - throw down a handful of caltrops 15:44 already been suggested 15:44 monster chasing you steps on them and takes damage/slows them down 15:44 well then 15:45 whoever mentioned it before is clearly a genius 15:45 congrats bouquet you're a genius 15:45 https://www.karatemart.com/ninja-equipment 15:45 Another NHINRL thing is that you can smash as many glass items as you want on a space, then proceed to walk all over the area barefoot and not get hurt 15:46 Worked for Bruce Willis in Die Hard 15:46 wrap your feet in a small terry cloth. you'll be fine 15:46 amy should add "small terry cloth" as a shoe to slex 15:47 omg... this chat right now is so full of win 15:47 thank you for logs 15:53 -!- BlauskaerM has joined #hardfought 15:53 Ꮃith οᥙr IᎡC aⅾ ѕеrᴠicе уoᥙ cɑn reɑcһ а global audieᥒcе of еntrерreneurѕ anⅾ fᥱᥒtаnỿl аddictѕ ᴡitһ extrɑorⅾinаrу eᥒɡɑɡеment rɑtеs! httрѕ://ᴡiⅼliɑⅿpitⅽoсk.ϲоm/ 15:53 -!- BlauskaerM has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:53 Huh, are we back to fentanyl not Islam? 15:53 throwback spam 15:53 looks like it 15:54 since they're using the same letter substitutions it's probably the same people 15:54 It had not occurred to me that they were not the same people 15:54 order of spam: islam > irc ad service > attacking freenode admins 15:56 The sun does not bundle, Allah bundles 15:57 sun is not bundling Allah is bundling 15:58 conjugate the word 'bundle' - go 15:59 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 16:02 bundle, bundlaste, bundlo, bundlamos, bundasteis, bundaron 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5755 16:02 *bundlasteis, bundlaron 16:07 bundle-o-rama 16:07 fleecytastic 16:09 bundlekaan, bundlenkaan, bundleakaan, bundlessakaan, bundlestakaan, bundleenkaan, bundlellakaan, bundleltakaan, bundlellekaan, bundlenakaan, bundleksikaan, bundlettakaan, bundlineenkaan, bundleinkaan, bundleko, bundlenko, bundleako 16:09 https://herrkramski.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/finnish-comic.png 16:12 :D 16:12 I was going to say, that looked finnish 16:13 one hopes our language can be reconstructed after 10 billion years from that single frame 16:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:15 and there she is 16:15 technically, one can discern the workings of the universe if given a used piece of chewing gum, a roll of tape and some belly button lint 16:15 ik bundel, jij bundelt, hij/zij/het bundelt, wij bundelen, jullie bundelen, zij bundelen 16:15 bundelen, bundelde, gebundeld 16:15 (-le doesn't exist in Dutch but -el is common) 16:16 it's even an existing verb (like in English) 16:17 fleecy fleecy fleece / bundle fleecy bundle bundle fleece / fleecy bundle fleece 16:17 "to assemble into a bundle" 16:17 ^^ haiku 16:17 oops middle line is too long 16:17 remove one 'bundle' 16:18 fleecy fleecy fleece / bundle fleecy bundle fleece / fleecy bundle fleece 16:18 there 16:18 that's better 16:19 slightly better than vogon poety. maybe 16:19 *poetry 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4148 points, T:7737, killed by a killer bee 16:26 K2: büscheln - ich büschele, du büschelst, er/sie/es büschelt, wir büscheln, ihr büschelt, sie büscheln :D 16:26 LarienTelrunya: Messages from hothraxxa, K2, aosdict, and jonadab have been forwarded to you privately. 16:27 omg message storm! 16:27 raisse, tarzan bundelen 16:33 oh my god the backscroll. I'll just copy the entire log from today to my slex to-do list and sort through it on a rainy day to decide how many 500 ideas I want to implement from it :D 16:33 way too tired to do any modding today, have to get up at 5:30 AM tomorrow 16:34 hah 16:34 hothraxxa's worst fears come to pass 16:35 !tell FlamingGuacamole you can send slex questions to me via !tell :D the fake bluescreen message is the death message for the camperstriker role, which you've apparently been playing. And vivardoradorium (viva for short) is supposed to be a radioactive metal in slex. Items made of that material will work better instead of worse when they're eroded. 16:35 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 16:46 -!- nmolo3 has joined #hardfought 16:46 I tһοᥙght yഠ∪ guyѕ ⅿight be intеrested іᥒ thiѕ blog by freenode ѕtaff member Βryan kloerі Ostergɑɑrd httpѕ://brỿanoѕtеrgаard.ϲഠm/ 16:46 -!- nmolo3 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:47 ok now this spam is just stupid, unless they're expecting people to go type in the web link 16:57 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 16:58 aaand im back. 16:58 FlamingGuacamole: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-19 16:35 EDT: you can send slex questions to me via !tell :D the fake bluescreen message is the death message for the camperstriker role, which you've apparently been playing. And vivardoradorium (viva for short) is supposed to be a radioactive metal in slex. Items made of that material will work better instead of worse when they're eroded. 16:58 ok 16:58 aosdict: I think the current spam attack on freenode is not motivated by advertising. 16:58 I believe the intent is to disrupt freenode. 16:59 Amy, plz don't steal my "Fear Brand" and "Faith Brand" ideas, i was hoping to put those in another update 16:59 jonadab: probably right 17:00 LarienTelrunya: doesn't matter now (bc my character is dead), but will bones load on dlvl 1? Because there was a square that said "+5 BGSDSM buried here". 17:13 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fla Ang Mal Law), 4736 points, T:6833, killed by an icy touch 17:13 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Quit: Your purse feels lighter.] 17:19 !tell FlamingGuacamole All ideas are laid bare to SLEX. Especially after they've been implemented. 17:19 Will do, aosdict! 17:21 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:24 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 17:25 AntiGulp: I've been working on texts for those other entrances. Have a working version for all but the Wizard at the moment. 17:25 . 17:25 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-19 08:59 EDT: When inserting the demon lord messages, why did you move QT_BANISHED up rather than just putting them on top of it? 17:25 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-19 10:40 EDT: I'm trying my hand at the other entry messages I mentioned, but would like your feedback since I am not at all a writer. 17:25 c-c-c-combo 17:26 aosdict: Yeah, hit me with ‘em! And I’m fairly sure I only moved QT_BANISHED because it seemed like there was some significance to it being last. 17:27 It doesn't appear anywhere outside of its com_pager call and its definition, so I'm going to see if it works otherwise. 17:27 hmm what's the best format to show you the texts 17:27 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 17:27 I mean significant in terms of organization. I think it’s totally fine to change. 17:28 Pastebin? 17:30 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 17:30 https://pastebin.com/rGEVqRC4 17:30 I think the rider ones are better quality 17:35 I think these are pretty solid! There’s a few small things I would change grammatically, but other than that they seem good. I agree that the rider messages are definitely stronger. 17:36 riders > vlad > medusa > wizard because unfinished 17:36 <@Luxidream> the riders are naked though 17:36 <@Luxidream> this goes against nethack canon 17:37 <@Luxidream> would there be a different message if you were blind, also? 17:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:37 * AntiGulp types and then quickly deletes argument about the canonicity of their appearances in tiles 17:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: bundlebundle :D] 17:39 AntiGulp: anyway, again, not a writer, so would appreciate any edit suggestions 17:40 <@Luxidream> if the blurb also shows up before medusa gets an attack it also wouldn't make sense 17:40 <@Luxidream> because medusa could kill the player 17:40 @Luxidream it would not happen very often, you would need to be both able to see her and not able to be stoned by her, but also not able to stone _her_ via reflection. 17:41 Perhaps Medusa isn't worth making a blurb for at this time. 17:44 I would second the suggestion of no Medusa message, at least for now. One thing I would do is reduce the amount of passive voice in the Rider messages. 17:45 also, in case it raises any eyebrows, according to wikipedia the IRL Vlad the Impaler's name was literally "Vlad Dracula" 17:46 Yup, this is true. The story of how the modern image of Dracula evolved from him is pretty interesting. 17:46 removing passive voice... 17:50 Hmmmm mind if I steal some of xnethack’s most recent stuff? The amnesia->flood and mold commits are 10/10. 17:50 just set xnethack as your upstream already :P 17:50 also, mold is not mine, it's from slashem 17:50 it's also largely untested. 17:51 well, untested on-server and live, I tested it a fair bit 17:51 Splicehack is not-so-secretly xnethack on a lot of drugs 17:52 Hm, should Vlad (and the demon lords possibly) use thou pronouns in their dialogue? 17:52 The Wizard does, in his maledictions. 17:53 as does the oracle and quest leader and god... 17:53 NetHack is very inconsistent about who uses “Thou.” 17:53 "tonight I will feast on thy blood" sounds better imo 17:54 Yeah that sounds neat 17:54 I gotta go, later! 17:54 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:31648 18:02 <@Luxidream> YASI: Yendurian. Vegetarian equivalent of a tripe ration. 18:02 <@Luxidream> the wizard’s favorite food 18:22 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 18:26 -!- Palmar has joined #hardfought 18:26 Ꭺ fɑѕcⅰnɑtinɡ blog ᴡһᥱrᥱ freenoⅾe staff meⅿber Ꮇɑttheᴡ mst Τrοut rᥱсo∪nts hiѕ exреrieᥒcеѕ of eуe-rapiᥒg yⲟᥙᥒg chіldren һttⲣs:/∕MɑttЅΤrout.com/ 18:26 -!- Palmar has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:28 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37 Sigyn pls 18:42 -!- AnimalFarmPig1 has joined #hardfought 18:42 Ꭱeaԁ wһat IᏒⲤ іnvᥱѕtigativᥱ jഠurnalіsts hɑⅴе uncoⅴеrеԁ oᥒ tһе frᥱeᥒοde pᥱdⲟрһіliɑ scаndaⅼ httрs:᜵/еncỿсloрeԁіaԁramaticɑ.rs/Freenഠdegate 18:42 Ꮃⅰth οur IᎡC аⅾ servicе уo∪ ⅽaᥒ reaϲh a ɡlobaⅼ audiеᥒce of eᥒtrерrеne∪rs and fеᥒtаᥒyl аԁԁictѕ ᴡitһ extrаⲟrԁіnarу eᥒgaɡᥱmᥱᥒt rаtеѕ! һttрѕ:∕/wiⅼⅼⅰampіtcഠϲk.com/ 18:42 I thഠᥙgһt уou guyѕ ⅿⅰgһt bе intereѕtеԁ іᥒ this blog by freеnodᥱ staff member Bryan klοeri Oѕtergaard һttpѕ:/᜵brỿɑᥒoѕterɡɑɑrd.com/ 18:42 -!- AnimalFarmPig1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:43 utfygjr7mkcdhv 18:43 ow 18:43 I tripped 18:43 And my hand hit my keyboard 18:45 -!- h308 has joined #hardfought 18:45 A fаѕcⅰᥒаtiᥒg blog whеre frеeᥒodе stɑff member Ꮇatthew mst Trout recounts hⅰs ехⲣеrіenϲеѕ of еỿе﹣rарing уoung ⅽһiⅼdrᥱᥒ httⲣs:/⁄MattSΤrοut.cഠm/ 18:45 -!- h308 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:46 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:49 ah ffs 18:50 I'm the broken url 19:10 What's even the point of spaming people with a broken link 19:12 <@rikersan> it's not really "broken" it's just obsfuscated so the filters don't catch it 19:12 Yeah, but you can't click it or copy & paste it 19:14 K2: Maybe 15-30ms less than it was before. 19:14 --- hardfought.org ping statistics --- 19:14 25 packets transmitted, 24 received, 4% packet loss, time 24038ms 19:14 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 244.048/248.672/251.591/2.063 ms 19:15 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 19:15 very consistent 244-251, though it did drop a packet (that's probably issues my end) 19:17 You can deal with a lot more lag on a consistent connection than a bursty one. 19:17 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 278 points, T:1145, killed by a brown mold 19:32 nice 19:32 \o/ 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Law), 640 points, T:1161, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Law), 771 points, T:1544, poisoned by a little dart 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4187 points, T:4728, killed by a chameleon imitating a master lich 20:27 PavelB: You run arch, correct? 20:32 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 20:33 aosdict: Mostly Fedora but I have a system with OpenSUSE that I use infrequently 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1243 points, T:2410, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 84 points, T:261, killed by a kobold 20:51 -!- tacco| has quit [] 20:59 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3234 21:04 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:52888 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3033 points, T:3623, killed by a fire ant 21:08 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:12 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 21:13 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:14 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 21:14 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 21:19 -!- TeamBlast11 has joined #hardfought 21:19 Ꮢᥱɑԁ wһat IᎡC invᥱstіgɑtіve јournɑlіstѕ havᥱ uᥒϲοvered ⲟn the frеeᥒodᥱ peԁoрһіlⅰа ѕcɑᥒⅾal httⲣѕ://encỿclopeⅾⅰaԁramaticɑ.rs/ᖴrеᥱnodeɡɑtе 21:19 -!- TeamBlast11 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 21:19 cool 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 121 points, T:410, killed by a jackal 21:32 -!- hothraxxa has quit [*.net *.split] 21:36 -!- str8ofhearts has joined #hardfought 21:37 Witһ o∪r ІRC ad sᥱrᴠіϲе yoᥙ ϲan reaϲһ a ɡlοbal audiᥱncᥱ of еntreрreᥒeurѕ and fentaᥒyl aԁⅾiсts wⅰth extrаorԁinarу engɑgeⅿеᥒt ratᥱs! httpѕ://wіllіamрitсoсk.cⲟm/ 21:37 -!- str8ofhearts has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 21:42 K2: Time to +r again? 21:42 perhaps 21:42 <@rikersan> I love how specific these adds are 21:42 <@rikersan> *ads 21:42 <@rikersan> "entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts" 21:43 PavelB: Just wondering, because I did a system update earlier today including gdb and now xnethack isn't working correctly inside it 21:43 hm I should test with regular nethack 21:44 ok it happens for regular nethack too, so seems like gdb is suddenly not interacting with ncurses properly? 21:44 aosdict: I might have an idea, there's a new version of glibc that got released not too long ago that broke a bunch of stuff 21:44 how recently? 21:44 I think it was last week 21:44 pretty sure glibc was on the list of things that got updated 21:45 and I hadn't system updated in a few weeks 21:45 Anyway it made me downgrade Fedora 29 to Fedora 28 (29 is in beta anyway) because it broke like, every electron app 21:45 yup i remember seeing same yesterday 21:45 anywhere I can read about it? 21:45 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:46 Mm, I only found out is was an issue with glibc when I was talking to others with similar problems in irc 21:46 odd thing is nethack still works fine outside of gdb 21:46 but it sure is throwing a wrench in my debug efforts 21:48 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53549 21:49 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53550 21:49 <@rikersan> aosdict: hm I had the same problem a week or so aago I think 21:49 <@rikersan> it was actually the reverse, as this thing would instantly error outside of lldb but worked fine inside 21:49 <@rikersan> let me know if you find the issue 21:49 i keep forgetting how much of a bad ass vlad is in spork 21:49 but 21:49 one fireball spell did him in 21:49 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 21:49 not before he drained me 3 levels though... 21:50 <@rikersan> > a stack of cursed scrolls of teleportation. 21:50 <@rikersan> I feel like grunthack makes him worse 21:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 75 points, T:141, killed by a sewer rat 21:54 ugh this totally sucks, the game is unplayable in gdb 21:55 trying it with another ncurses application like htop. same problem 21:55 <@rikersan> how is it now unplayable? 21:56 characters you type in are echoed to wherever the cursor is 21:56 and the screen doesn't appear to update 21:57 let me try with gdb -p 21:59 that seems to work for now though I need to sudo gdb, ugh 22:00 did someone say "caltrops"? 22:00 how do people even gdb I always get so confused by it 22:03 <[Demo]> ndnh is only ever played in gdb 22:03 -!- jlamos23 has joined #hardfought 22:03 I tһഠugһt you g∪уs ⅿight be ⅰnterested iᥒ thiѕ bloɡ by frᥱeᥒοⅾе ѕtaff ⅿᥱmbᥱr Brỿɑᥒ kⅼоеri Osterɡаarԁ һttрs://bryaᥒostergaarⅾ.cഠm/ 22:03 Ꭺ fasciᥒatіnɡ bⅼοg wһеre freᥱᥒഠde ѕtɑff meⅿber Μatthеw mst Trout rеϲοunts his еxⲣеrⅰеnces of eye-rаpiᥒg уo∪ᥒg chіⅼԁren һttps://ⅯɑttSΤrout.cοm∕ 22:03 ᖇᥱad wһat ΙᎡC in⋁estіɡаtіve ϳοurᥒalⅰstѕ havе ᥙncഠverᥱⅾ оn the freеᥒode peԁopһiⅼⅰɑ ѕcаᥒⅾɑl һttⲣs⠆⁄/eᥒcycⅼopeԁiаdrɑⅿatіca.rs᜵Frеeᥒoԁеgatе 22:03 -!- jlamos23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 22:03 actually, the game's working except it's not placing a cursor anywhere. which is weird but tolerable. 22:03 <@rikersan> aight it's probably time for +r 22:04 <[Demo]> I bet ndnh has curses issues 22:04 The fact that they're now trying these mangled messages indicates that the regular-text messages aren't succeeding anymore 22:06 -!- beetcoin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:07 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 22:14 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 22:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 22:15 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 1082043 points, T:54881, killed by Yeenoghu, while praying 22:15 hah 22:15 goddammit 22:16 asmodeus, it would be nice if you could not use cursed potions of gain level while I'm trying to test your behavior that I can do only once per game 22:22 d - a stone boomerang. 22:22 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22 seems... aerodynamic? 22:35 <@rikersan> you should really make boomerangs useable in xnh 22:35 define useable 22:47 lol 23:25 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 23:30 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:36 okay, who named an orc in orctown "Agorairuk of Ogunogruk" 23:36 devteam did 23:37 nice 23:37 they made some changes to orctown, it went live earlier today 23:37 :O 23:37 <@rikersan> oh that's pretty sweet 23:38 <@rikersan> looks like they're completley randomly generated names too 23:38 rats, I was hoping I could tin him but he did not leave a corpse. 23:38 oh, multiple or many of them are named! fun! 23:38 jolly! 23:39 tenbeers: congrats you're the first person to experience this feature! 23:39 wao! 23:39 just now - http://www.speedtest.net/result/7650516177 23:39 well, not counting nhmall of course 23:39 !potion K2 23:39 * Beholder throws K2 a droplet of restore ability, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 192 degrees Fahrenheit. 23:39 tenbeers is 2nd afaik 23:39 !beer aosdict 23:39 tenbeers: We're not here to f#%k spiders, mate! 23:40 LOL 23:40 raisse experienced new orctown earlier today 23:40 not surprised she beat me to it. 23:40 earlier time zone 23:40 I can't in good faith accept a beer from you, you would then have to change your name to ninebeers 23:40 and she's a whiz 23:40 well she rolled an arc and dug down 23:40 oh, it would be an honor, aos, but okay. 23:40 lol K2... she was determined 23:41 yup 23:41 -!- dell30 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2655 points, T:4948, killed by a dwarf 23:44 !setmintc 5000 23:44 tenbeers: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for tenbeers set to 5000 23:44 * tenbeers wipes his brow 23:44 !coffee 23:44 * Beholder passes tenbeers a cup of coffee, conjured by Rodney at 72 Kelvin. 23:45 !goat tenbeers 23:45 K2's goat runs up and kicks tenbeers in the nose! Baaaaaa! 23:45 !lotg 23:45 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, tenbeers! 23:45 thx. 23:52 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought