00:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 911 points, T:1495, killed by a gnome lord 00:15 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 305 points, T:965, killed by a crossbow bolt 00:37 If I'm blind, not wearing gloves, and I know a tile contains a cockatrice corpse, can I safely m-move over that tile? 00:37 don't think so 00:37 Hmm 00:37 Well, I'm in a maze level and a bit stuck then 00:38 ...or I can wait for the blindness to wear off. Dur. 00:38 Wiztesting shows you *can* m-move successfully. 00:40 What's "The hair on the back of your neck stands up.", do you know? I tried grepping the source code for it and couldn't find anything. 00:42 <@IceBox> it's not a graveyard? 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1720 points, T:2215, killed by a death ray 00:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special_room#Graveyard 00:46 Thanks 00:47 that is among several msgs that can be given while spending time around a graveyard. But not all graveyards look like graveyards 00:50 ._. I just noticed my inventory no longer contain grayswandir 00:50 I am unser what happened to it 00:51 Ok my weapons are all dissapearing wtf 00:51 Could have been stolen or whipped away 00:54 Whipped sounds about right 00:54 Seeing as how I found it in a pile with a bullwhip 00:54 Didn't know that could happen 00:55 Yeah, it's pretty rude 00:55 When I'm in gehennom, should I be looking for branch stairs or will I just eventually find the wiztower? 00:55 I really don't know anything about this part of the game 00:57 Actually I think I'm about to die. 00:57 Yeep 00:57 Brain eaten while frozen by something 00:57 <@IceBox> Oof yeah I would check out the gehennom mapping wiki page next time you're there 00:58 <@IceBox> You will only maybe bump into the wizards tower naturally if you don't know what you're looking for 00:58 Alright 00:58 <@IceBox> No ring of free action? 00:59 I opted for TeleControl (Had teleportitis) and slow digestion 00:59 <@IceBox> Slow digest!? You crazy man. I like you... But you crazy 00:59 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 758340 points, T:26721, killed by brainlessness 01:00 Am I not supposed to use slow digestion...? 01:00 <@Luxidream> don’t judge him 01:01 <@IceBox> Dunno how different xnh is but definitely want some major bases covered by gehem 01:01 <@Luxidream> my first ascension slow digestion was the only ring I had 01:01 <@IceBox> Yeah but you're, like, actually crazy 01:01 <@IceBox> No one can do the things you do 01:01 <@IceBox> *few 01:02 I honestly don't know where I got lightning resistance from 01:02 Is it covered by reflection or magic resistance or something? 01:02 Anyway, my slow digest got cursed by a lich so I couldn't take it off if I wanted to 01:02 <@IceBox> Haha no you must've gotten it from eating something 01:03 <@Luxidream> next time genocide liches 01:03 gehennom becomes much easier once you genocide L 01:03 <@IceBox> What'd you wish for in this one pavel? 01:03 <@Luxidream> and mindflayers 01:03 I genocided arch-liches 01:03 <@Luxidream> then you’ll be good 01:03 then you can see everything else coming and react 01:03 <@IceBox> Geno L for like every game until you really know what you're doing 01:03 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 01:03 <@IceBox> Why wasn't it blessed geno? 01:04 Because I'm bad 01:04 <@IceBox> Haha the game doesn't determine BUC from your skill level silly ;) 01:04 !lastgame 01:04 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PavelB/xnethack/dumplog/1536590241.xnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PeterQ/dnethack/dumplog/1537128384.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/xnethack/dumplog/1532060298.xnh.txt 01:05 <@IceBox> Did you wish for non blessed? No holy water? What's the dealio? 01:05 <@Luxidream> The real question is 01:05 I wished for GDSM, Greyswandir, Speed boots, Scrolls of charging, Scrolls of enchant armor (I've already been berated for not wishing for a magic marker), BoH, TeleControl, Cloak of protection 01:05 <@Luxidream> Why were you naked lol 01:05 All wishes were blessed greased +3 01:06 @IceBox I found the geno scroll randomly and didn't bless it 01:06 And probably should have 01:06 sounds like you learned a bunch of stuff this game then 01:06 <@kritixilithos> PavelB: did you ascend that game where you made it into gehennom? 01:07 This was my only game I'd ever made it to gehennom 01:07 <@IceBox> Yeah getting that far usually gives you quite a few bits of learning 01:07 <@kritixilithos> Ik 01:08 <@kritixilithos> *reads backscroll oh mind flayer 01:08 <@Luxidream> there are a few things that you wished for that probably weren't worth a wish 01:08 <@Luxidream> but you probably could have won regardless 01:08 If I had free action 01:09 what paralyzed you? 01:09 I'm not actually sure 01:09 <@Luxidream> in the dumplog there's no sign of anything paralyzing you 01:09 gehennom doesn't usually have much paralysis sources 01:09 <@Luxidream> it's just the mindflayer hit all three tentacle attacks 01:09 Ah 01:09 <@Luxidream> because you were naked 01:09 <@Luxidream> why were you naked? 01:09 Succubus I didn't notice, I'm guessing 01:12 <@Luxidream> oh, the dangers of multiline I guess 01:12 Over the past week, here's what I've figured out, for myself: 01:12 Somehow get a wish, and get DSM before doing the quest. If this doesn't happen, I'm screwed and should probably just restart. 01:12 Sokoban may be boring, but also *definitely* a requirement. 01:12 Having a container is actually useful. Woah. 01:12 Don't waste holy water on trivial things, and save it for when *important* stuff gets cursed by a lich. 01:12 Wish for a fucking magic marker next time, instead of wishing for scrolls twice. 01:13 Do the castle before the quest! 01:13 if you don't have OP equipment yet, that is 01:13 But you get the bell of opening from the quest 01:13 so? 01:13 Castle is no teleport, so you need to get the drawbridge open 01:14 (Or is it? I don't remember exactly) 01:14 <@Luxidream> this is xnh 01:14 <@Luxidream> so you can do quest at 10 01:14 yes 01:14 Gah! On standard nh362 I keep getting killed by a shopkeeper who is already angered and running around the ruined Minetown with a wand of death before I ever get there 01:14 <@Luxidream> so quest first isn't bad 01:15 friggin' Elan Lapinski 01:15 but you can open the drawbridge in many ways easier to find than the bell 01:15 * PavelB wiki's the castle 01:15 @Luxidream Yeah but over a few months I've determined I'm incapable of completing it without DSM 01:15 unless xnh changes that badly 01:15 So castle => /oW => DSM => Quest sounds good 01:16 You can also get in the back door of the castle if you can levitate. 01:16 it depends on the role but most of the time I'm not ready for the quest without the castle wishes 01:16 attie: Drawbridges are not changed, I'm smart enough not to go near that code. 01:17 what about the availability of tonals? 01:17 are they notably more difficult to get hold of? 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1520 points, T:2274, killed by Mr. Elan Lapinski; the shopkeeper 01:18 I've been informed that the Valk quest is really easy, but 01:18 it is really easy, provided you've visited the castle first... 01:19 Surtur still hits fairly hard 01:19 but he's not tricky in the ways other quest leaders can be 01:20 [hdf-us] [sp] ChiefGreyBush (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:2, zapped himself with a spell 01:20 rip 01:20 The one time I cleared the quest without dsm I got sokobag so my healing potions actually survived long enough for me to get down to surtur and then /oDeath'd him 01:21 GruntHack updated (all servers) 01:21 SporkHack updated (all servers) 01:21 slashem still needs work before i make it fully public 01:21 dumplog issues 01:21 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 01:21 almost there 01:22 !asc ChiefGreyBush 01:22 PavelB: [hdf-us] ChiefGreyBush has not ascended in 17 games. | [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush has not ascended in 6 games. | [hdf-au] ChiefGreyBush has not ascended in 17 games. 01:22 Aww 01:22 a regular bag should work too if you don't throw it around 01:23 visit minetown for fun and profit 01:23 oh yeah 01:23 That's basically how my "somehow get a wish" strat played out 01:23 Get a magic lamp 01:25 yeah that's a good generic early game strat 01:25 especially with dwa val when you have friendly mines 01:25 attie: I don't *think* I've changed the availability of tonals. Names, yes, but that's irrelevant. 01:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3274 points, T:3775, killed by a panther 01:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1548 points, T:2906, killed by a scroll of earth 02:23 blargh. 02:25 -!- tenbeers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:52 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:00 <@kritixilithos> how does one get killed by a scroll? 03:01 by having it dump 59 boulders on top of your hard helmet :D 03:03 (actually it's the falling boulder that kills you, but the game still says "scroll of earth") 03:07 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 03:27 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 03:32 * bug_sniper stands next to LarienTelrunya and reads an uncursed scroll of earth 03:32 -!- kwake8 has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- kwake8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:33 was it the scroll or the falling rocks that dealt you damage? 03:33 boulder of course :D 03:33 unfortunately my paper helmet does not protect me... 03:33 The blame rests solely on whoever coded it in 03:34 aosdict: do paper helmets (and other armor pieces) exist in xnethack? how do they react to fire effects? will they burn faster than leather? because in the new slex 2.33 they do :D 03:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 03:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:51 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- Trixis18 has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- Trixis18 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:34 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:47 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 06:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:15 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:16 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.4/20180713174829]] 06:25 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:28 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:29 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 6182 points, T:8086, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:30 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:52 !tell LarienTelrunya Paper armor exists, but they don't instaburn, they erode like normal. They're probably weak enough that I don't need to nerf them further. 06:52 Will do, aosdict! 06:55 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:23 -!- bashura_10 has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- bashura_10 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:30 YANI: =oConflict autocurses when worn. 07:34 that actually makes sense (and makes the Sceptre of Might even more useful) 07:35 EPI: all equipment autocurses when equipped/worn/wielded/quivered/whatever. 07:35 Because why do things by halves. 07:35 EPI: all scrolls autocurse when read, all potions autocurse when quaffed. 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] u42586 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8 points, T:56, killed by a fox 07:52 autocursing all equipment only adds tedium, not difficulty or judgment calls 07:53 that's not particularly evil, just annoying :-) 07:54 -!- user12309 has joined #hardfought 07:55 it's evil to remove strategy and add tedium in its place 07:56 heh 07:59 lemme look 07:59 I can connect fine, and I see one person playing on eu server 07:59 user12309 can you run a traceroute to eu.hardfought.org please 08:00 maybe there's a router having issues between you and that server 08:02 hrm 08:03 ok. you can also try this - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/hterm-eu/ 08:04 no prob 08:06 K2: someone needs a +v? 08:07 damn... yeah whatever connection you're on must filter game sites 08:07 to a degree 08:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [-q $~a] by K2 08:07 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07 when did FIQ put the +q back on... 08:08 aosdict i didnt think anyone needs +v 08:08 aosdict: that's my gripe with the 3.6 plane of water 08:08 * K2 slaps FIQ around a bit with a large trout 08:08 FIQ please let me know if you change anything with the channel 08:08 raisse: counterpoint, the 3.4 plane of water had a clearly optimal strategy that meant there was only one real way to do the level 08:09 in 3.6 there are two viable strategies 08:09 the spambot crap isnt so bad anymore, i dont believe we need +q at the moment 08:09 spambot is doing 08:09 heh 08:09 -!- user12309 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:09 in 3.4 you could choose to levitate, to swim, or to stay in the bubbtle 08:09 bubble* 08:10 raisse: but why would anyone ever swim since everyone already had levitation anyway, and that had the ease of swimming with none of the downsides? 08:10 people did (not me, somehow it gave me acute claustrophobia) 08:10 (which RL swimming never does, not even underwater) 08:11 we can probably ignore psychological effects if talking about dominant strategies 08:19 -!- Sigyn has quit [Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.] 08:20 -!- Sigyn has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Sigyn] by ChanServ 08:34 -!- tibbs24 has joined #hardfought 08:34 Alⅼаһ iѕ doing 08:34 ѕᥙᥒ iѕ nഠt ⅾоiᥒɡ Αllaһ ⅰs doіng 08:34 mⲟоn ⅰѕ nοt ⅾoiᥒɡ Αⅼlɑһ iѕ doing 08:34 -!- tibbs24 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:34 that's why we still had the +q but Sigyn is on the case 08:35 right 08:35 its not bad like before 08:35 i dont like quieting the channel bleh 08:44 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 08:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:03 -!- bgiannan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08 -!- APic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:32 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 09:37 -!- Hasimir15 has joined #hardfought 09:37 Aⅼlaһ іѕ ⅾoіng 09:37 -!- Hasimir15 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:37 oh boy. 09:41 Hmm, PatR just made it possible to cancel shapechangers to prevent their shapeshifting... but if they shift into a high-MR form like an arch-lich, their MR counts as the high-MR form rather than their natural MR. 09:47 hah 09:52 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4721 points, T:5434, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:53 <[Demo]> protection from shape changers is such a weird ring 09:55 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:55 This isn't an active change. They were already considered to have the MR of their polyform, but I just personally feel like it ought to be otherwise. 09:59 Among other things, it would help with dealing with "oh no a chameleoarch-lich!" 10:00 <[Demo]> just have them do only in range poly forms 10:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:07 K2: there was a bunch of spam 10:07 that is why 10:07 YANI: Rather than 100%/10% instadegrading, when a crysknife leaves your inventory, it starts a timer with 1-50 turns. If an unfixed crysknife times out, it instareverts to a worm tooth. If a fixed one times out, it loses one point of enchantment, or if it's at +0, it reverts to a worm tooth. 10:07 Oh, and when the timer runs out and the crysknife is still a crysknife, it starts the same timer again. 10:08 nice idea 10:09 maybe not worth the development effort, though. I'm not sure I've ever seen a player with a crysknife. 10:09 FIQ: its not that bad at the moment 10:10 bhaak: well this is aimed at making them a little more feasible 10:10 currently crysknives are useless as thrown weapons because it will revert 10% of the time even if fixed 10:12 Which role would want to use them as throwing weapons though? Healers? 10:12 oh, you are right. 10:13 also, it is probably not much code. but I'm slightly afraid of potential timer bugs :) 10:13 crysknives were never meant to be thrown 10:13 just fyi 10:13 <@Luxidream> since the timer is different for each crysknife thrown, you'll end up with 10 different stacks of crysknives in no time 10:14 I think the idea is that the timer ends when you pick them up again, so they are all the same in the inventory 10:14 K2: in NetHack, I'd say, they do 10:14 i'm referring to dune 10:15 bhaak: I'm going to (attempt to) implement this in xnethack, you are welcome to it as a patch 10:15 <@Luxidream> I mean, you throw 3 crysknives in a stack of 10 10:16 <@Luxidream> there's a chance that at least one of them will have reverted 10:16 <@Luxidream> or lost enchantment 10:16 <@Luxidream> meaning they won't stay stacked for long 10:16 @Luxidream also consider that even getting 10 crysknives requires 10 separate worm teeth and 10 scrolls of enchant armor 10:18 <@Luxidream> right, but even with this improvement it still takes a huge amount of enchant weapon to even keep them stacked 10:18 cool idea though aosdict 10:18 You also can't multi-enchant a stack of crysknives, they will fuse, so that doesn't matter. 10:19 hah 10:19 s/multi-// 10:19 becomes a two-handed crysword 10:23 K2: not *now* no 10:23 it was when I turned it on 10:23 ah 10:24 @Luxidream would the idea be improved by shifting the timer range to 10-50 or so? 10:25 <@Luxidream> I think so 10:29 <@Luxidream> if a living monster picks it up, it should also stop the timer 10:29 Still, nobody except healers is going to want to use it as a throwing weapon. Rogues can get expert in knife as well, but they get +1 multishot with daggers 10:30 <@Luxidream> it already takes a million scrolls of enchant weapon to even make 10:31 <@Luxidream> at that point just let players have fun with it lol 10:32 Actually, this idea was prompted by a different crysknife idea that you can create a pre-enchanted crysknife (even past +7) if you fuse enough worm teeth together. 10:34 <[Demo]> dyna makes monks actually use shuriken and it's impressive 10:34 But you will never get enough worm teeth for more than 2 high-enchanted crysknives, so they would be much more likely used for two-weaponing than throwing 10:35 <@Luxidream> Where does it make you use shuriken 10:35 <@Luxidream> idk how you found all those magical ones 10:36 <[Demo]> when ur a shitty monk that has shitty melee and ur god won't give u stormbringer 10:36 <[Demo]> and instead showers u in magic shurikens 10:36 <@Luxidream> Martial arts is buffed in dyna 10:36 <@Luxidream> No longer randomly does 1 damage 10:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:37 <[Demo]> it still felt shitty but good to know 10:37 <[Demo]> my shurikens still do a hell of a lot more damage than martial arts 10:37 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 10:38 @Luxidream and in xnh too, now 10:38 <@Luxidream> some of the object property weapons are a lot better than artifacts 10:38 <@Luxidream> like a thirsty katana of fire, etc 10:39 <[Demo]> yeah 10:40 <[Demo]> I wish I had thirsty shuriken of fire 10:40 <@Luxidream> you can also do some silly drain for gain early in the game with thirsty weapons 10:40 <@Luxidream> but that’s a different story 10:41 <[Demo]> ooh nice 10:41 <[Demo]> do splice or xnh have obj props yet? 10:42 <@Luxidream> xgrunthack 10:42 no 10:43 <@Luxidream> splinthack 10:43 and i dont see aosdict adding obj properties to xnh 10:43 but who knows 10:43 splicehack does have properties I thought 10:43 does it? 10:43 <@Luxidream> I’ve never seen any 10:43 i thought it just had obj materials from xnh 10:43 I'm not entirely opposed to adding object properties to xnh 10:44 but it would need to fix an obvious problem 10:44 just not as crazy as grunthack does it i imagine ;) 10:44 yeah the obj prop in gh has issues. FIQ fixed a couple of them 10:44 <@Luxidream> There is an obvious problem 10:45 no, no, it would need to fix an obvious *vanilla* problem 10:45 <@Luxidream> I don’t have a thirsty silver katana of reflection 10:45 <@Luxidream> this needs to be remedied immediately 10:46 ;) 10:47 <@Luxidream> I also need my leather armor of pow and dex and stealth and speed and cold resistance that I found in my last dyna game 10:50 <[Demo]> wow 10:51 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:00 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:01 -!- uruwi has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a staff bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:27002 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2369 points, T:3972, poisoned by a killer bee 11:17 -!- uruwi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:18 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 11:25 -!- kozet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 11:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:32 -!- slonique2 has joined #hardfought 11:32 Aⅼlɑһ iѕ dഠing 11:32 -!- slonique2 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:45 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:30119 11:45 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:47 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:08 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:18 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 12:18 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:25 -!- shayr19 has joined #hardfought 12:25 Alⅼaһ is dοing 12:25 -!- shayr19 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:30 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:01 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 13:01 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Freenode is now setting +R to all new connections; please identify with NickServ, otherwise you will not be able to talk 13:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 13:02 hi 13:02 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 13:34 <[Demo]> Probably a deva 13:34 <[Demo]> rip 13:34 K2: are you anywhere near a hurricane or flooding? 13:34 K2: or more importantly, is hdf? 13:34 <[Demo]> k2 is way north 13:35 I don't think hurricane florence reached vermont yet 13:35 <[Demo]> the hurricane is hitting here today and its sad cause I'm in the basement at work but I'm pretty sure it's pretty weak now and it probably won't flood 13:36 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1656 points, T:1056, killed by a hobgoblin 13:39 bhaak: nope 13:39 we get hurricane remnants sometimes 13:40 which has caused really bad flooding 13:40 but my house is part way up the side of a good sided hill. dont need to worry about flooding 13:40 unless a giant asteroid hits the atlantic ocean and a 1000 ft wave comes racing towards my house 13:43 I think you're probably still far enough away from the ocean to be safe 13:44 now, if an asteroid scores a direct hit on lake champlain... 13:45 I am stupid 13:46 Flooding at my house just requires a lot of rain in a short amount of time. 13:47 I mean, it does require a lot. We're on a small hill. The floor of our basement is a good 10-12 feet above the level of the river a block away. 13:47 But the soil's all clay, so it can definitely happen. 13:47 ugh 13:47 not a matter of if but when jonadab 13:47 that close to a river 13:48 No, the river only takes water away. 13:48 Random terminology question: if a comet impacts the Earth, is it technically classified as a meteor while falling through the atmosphere? 13:48 The headwaters of the river are less than two miles from my house. 13:48 Or is it still just a comet 13:48 There literally is no upstream. 13:48 hope so 13:49 I *think* that should count as a meteor? But we're way outside my area of expertise there. 13:49 git remote --set-upstream-to jonadabs_house 13:49 K2: I live about a mile from the Mississippi/St.Lawrence divide. 13:49 ah 13:49 <@shadowsapex> yeah, a comet can be a meteor 13:49 aosdict I chuckled 13:50 I've walked my dog far enough to encounter streams that flow into the Sandusky (a tributary of Lake Erie). 13:50 <@shadowsapex> apparently what counts is that it enters the atmosphere fast enough to glow 13:50 But the river a block from my house is an indirect tributary of the Ohio. 13:50 jonadab: so, you've walked a mile. 13:50 :P 13:50 aosdict: The point is it isn't far. 13:50 The only way that river floods, is if the rain is falling in Galion. 13:51 Which, granted, does happen. 13:51 Historically, Galion has had some fairly substantial floods. But our house did not flood significantly on those occasions. 13:51 I mean, we get some puddles on the basement floor. 13:52 But that's all. 13:52 So far, knock on wood. 14:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:11 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:14 -!- dan-5 has joined #hardfought 14:14 Αlⅼɑh is doіnɡ 14:14 sun is nοt doⅰᥒg Allɑh іs doinɡ 14:14 -!- dan-5 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 14:16 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1096 points, T:1750, poisoned by an orcish arrow 14:46 meh, orctown. 14:48 xnh orctown? lots of free loot! 14:54 <[Demo]> what does xnh add? 14:58 [hdf-us] [dyn] introsp3ctive (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7069 points, T:6399, choked on a food ration 14:59 <[Demo]> peterQ why do you like ana? 15:04 [Demo]: I wouldn't say I like (or dislike) it, I just want to play it through once, since it's (together with binder) one of dnhs most fleshed out roles 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] introsp3ctive (Bin Inc Fem Non), 190 points, T:180, killed by a hobbit 15:13 <[Demo]> what makes it so fleshed out? 15:17 xnh orctown has a shopkeeper that has barricaded itself in its shop 15:17 gotta fight your way to them 15:18 vanilla should adopt that change imo 15:18 xnh orctown also has random phat lewt spread throughout. Unfortunately, I was playing 362-hdf that round. 15:19 frankly, I think vanilla should just be xnh. All the good quality of life stuff without unbalancing the game. Plus improved quest levels. 15:20 [Demo]: Well, maybe not fleshed out, but unique. You could probably play Ana as if it were a tourist, but you also have different options due to future tech (in particular lightsabers) 15:21 bouquet: aw thanks 15:23 well, it is really good. CSB: my uncle and I had embarked on updating 3.6.0 when it came out with some of the QoL features that ultimately ended up in xnh. You probably did a better job being more familiar with the source than us. 15:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] introsp3ctive (Bin Inc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1741 15:44 CSB? 15:49 <@Luxidream> xnh spellcasting is too strong 15:49 <@Luxidream> xnh gehennom is too hard lol 15:50 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:51 Cool Story Bro... 15:53 <[Demo]> xnh mlets are too confusing 15:54 <[Demo]> and colors 15:54 -!- monochrom26 has joined #hardfought 15:54 Aⅼlɑh iѕ ԁoiᥒɡ 15:54 ѕᥙᥒ is ᥒοt dοіnɡ Aⅼlah ⅰѕ ԁoing 15:54 ⅿoon ⅰs not doing Alⅼah iѕ ⅾoiᥒg 15:54 -!- monochrom26 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:54 @Luxidream ... how? 15:55 (the gehennom thing) 15:55 anyway if it's harder that's probably a good thing, it is too easy in vanilla 15:55 <[Demo]> dynahack is doing 15:56 <@Luxidream> not really 15:57 <@Luxidream> just you’d be surprised how much more difficult encounters get when you are surrounded in open spaces 15:57 <@Luxidream> rather than in a maze 15:57 the main point of the gehennom rooms update was to unboringify, not particularly to address difficulty 15:57 <@Luxidream> of course, you never notice this if you are properly geared 15:58 <@Luxidream> It only comes up if you have terrible AC 15:59 <@Luxidream> which I’ve been there on a couple of occasions 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 451 points, T:803, killed by a goblin 16:01 I love the gehennom rooms. Especially if one has a priest in it so I can unload all that gold that piles up in gehennom. 16:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] introsp3ctive (Bin Inc Fem Non), 14544 points, T:3069, killed by a crow 16:01 The only things I miss are some of the alternate branches from Un and Slash'em like the Spider mines, the Ice level, the Dragon Caves, and some of that other alternate stuff. 16:02 the lava levels in deep gehennom are a nice change, too. But fuck cthulhu. That guy is a jerk 16:02 <@Luxidream> dragon caves are not very useful 16:03 <@Luxidream> I usually go there for potions of gain level and that’s it 16:03 I guess not if you've already got your desired DSM. 16:03 <@Luxidream> wearing dsm is also less appealing in un 16:04 the ice caves had a magic pick I think. Was pretty good for arc's 16:04 why less appealing? Because it's not clear what resistence is conveyed because of randomized D? 16:04 <@Luxidream> Less AC 16:05 ah. I never noticed. 16:05 <@Luxidream> Nerfed to 6 instead of 9 16:05 <@Luxidream> same as a mithril coat 16:05 poor Nerf Inc. They got verbed. 16:06 <@Luxidream> the crystal pick is useful in Sheol, but you’ve already beaten it by the time you get there 16:07 <[Demo]> is it though ? 16:07 <@Luxidream> I think there’s a marker there now 16:07 <[Demo]> are throne wishes a thing in un? 16:07 <[Demo]> they are and count as non magic. yeah? 16:08 <@Luxidream> They no longer grant wishes at all 16:08 <[Demo]> damn 16:08 <@Luxidream> You can get genocides though 16:08 <[Demo]> well non magic wishes suck and I get them too often and crystal picks are non magic 16:08 <@Luxidream> Shield of reflection is nonmagical in un 16:09 <@Luxidream> this is pretty great because you can polypile for them too 16:10 <[Demo]> Shields of reflection suck cause they are shields and shields suck if you can two wep 16:11 <@Luxidream> dyna shield skill is op 16:11 <[Demo]> doesn't it give hella ac? 16:12 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:52312 16:12 <@Luxidream> at skilled elven shield is base 6 16:13 <[Demo]> Yeah wild 16:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 16:23 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 16:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:25 -!- ProzacElf_ has left #hardfought 16:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:26 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Aci Alb Mal Law), 7117 points, T:3835, killed by a monster (tumblrer) 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1484 points, T:3158, killed by a small mimic 16:30 -!- kozet has joined #hardfought 16:31 16:32 16:32 :x 16:36 -!- kozet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:36 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 16:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:48 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 4932 points, T:4870, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:54 smart nymph stole my wand of lightning and zapped me with it. 17:02 They do that. 17:17 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 17:27 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 17:35 !who 17:35 FIQ: [hdf-us] Leeroy [dnh] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:48 <@Theyflower> Can't wait for tnnt 17:50 <[Demo]> so i was given an ironkey flash drive today, not sure what to do with it 17:51 put the launch codes on it 17:52 <[Demo]> all my data i already have is already compromised 17:54 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:14 rip bouquet, smitten to death 18:14 by a nymph 18:27 -!- renopt28 has joined #hardfought 18:27 Aⅼlaһ іѕ ԁoіng 18:27 sun іs ᥒot dοіnɡ Ꭺlⅼаһ iѕ dⲟinɡ 18:27 -!- renopt28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:27 would you rather: be smitten to death by a nymph, or be smitten to death by a barbarian 18:30 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:30 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 18:31 <@rikersan> is smitten to death by Tyr an option? 18:33 good third option! I forgot that one 18:37 [hdf-us] [dyn] LuxidreamsOfDjinni (introsp3ctive) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2286 points, T:12190, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a potion 18:57 [hdf-us] [dyn] introsp3ctive (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2478 points, T:2382, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear, while praying 18:59 -!- angreifer11 has joined #hardfought 18:59 Ꭺⅼlah ⅰs ԁഠіᥒɡ 18:59 -!- angreifer11 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:09 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:14 I don't know if this is a bug but I just picked up a potion of water in Dyna that I didn't know the beatitude of and it identified as uncursed automatically 19:15 I'm playing a wizard so I should not be able to tell that it's uncursed when I pick it up 19:20 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:22 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 19:27 -!- nek07 has joined #hardfought 19:27 Αllaһ is doⅰnɡ 19:27 -!- nek07 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:28