00:01 What's up with all the random Muslim spam on Freenode lately? 00:01 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 00:02 s/Muslim// 00:02 <[Demo]> why is it about Allah now and not freenode admins diddling kids? 00:02 <[Demo]> I guess they just changed the topic from catholicism? 00:20 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 00:27 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:32 YANI: General or specific debuff monster spell, which target beneficial timing-out intrinsics you have (like speed, detect monsters, see invisible) and reduce or remove their duration. 00:32 Extrinisics are unaffected. 00:33 Innate intrinsics are also unaffected. 00:41 Does NetHack even have a mechanism for distinguishing between innate intrinsics and acquired intrinsics? 00:42 <@rikersan> I believe 01:05 aosdict: sporkhack has that 01:23 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 01:25 -!- tenbeers has joined #hardfought 01:26 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 01:38 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a knife bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:13945 01:38 thanks Thoth... 01:40 !potion K2 01:40 * Beholder hands K2 a potion of gain level, distilled by FCCBot at 66 degrees Fahrenheit. 01:40 !lotg 01:40 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, tenbeers! 01:40 heh 01:41 * tenbeers falls into the channel through a six-level deep shaft 01:44 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a knife bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:14429 01:44 ... 01:53 <@Luxidream> ..isn't it supposed to be weighted towards weapons that you can use? 01:56 sort of 01:56 in sporkhack, the lower level you are, the less chance of being gifted an artifact 01:57 but if you get a regular item (armor/weapon) it's usually blessed, fooproof and enchanted a fair amount 01:57 <@rikersan> I'd almost rather have that than like ogresmasher in spork 02:00 <@Luxidream> dyna does the same thing, but it biases towards the type you train the most 02:00 as does grunthack 02:00 sporkhack kind of does 02:05 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a staff bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:15396 02:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:12 <@rikersan> better 02:12 <@rikersan> spork has object properties rigt? 02:12 no 02:13 <@rikersan> oh really 02:14 <@rikersan> huh I thought it was spork, guess its' only dyna/grunt/fh 02:17 [hdf-us] [dyn] IntroSux (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 830634 points, T:65188, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-09-15%2002_16_59%2C%20IntroSux-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 02:23 congrats @Luxidream 02:23 -!- LordCow has joined #hardfought 02:23 Alⅼah is ԁoіᥒɡ 02:23 sᥙᥒ iѕ ᥒоt ⅾⲟiᥒɡ Αⅼlah іѕ ⅾoіᥒg 02:23 ⅿoon is nοt doіᥒg Aⅼⅼаһ iѕ doing 02:23 -!- LordCow has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:27 <@Luxidream> ty 02:38 <@Tone> haha great name lux 😄 02:39 <@Tone> grats 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an oval amulet on an altar, on T:3930 02:49 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19583 02:50 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00 oh crap, that was no rothe 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 5487 points, T:4544, killed by a mumak 03:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8583 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53958 03:03 Dammit, got reflection 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:53965 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "7 uncursed candles", on T:54192 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:54200 03:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54623 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:54841 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54846 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54910 03:42 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 03:49 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:13130 03:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13133 03:51 Yay 03:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5131 points, T:4042, killed by a gnome lord 04:00 -!- bluepixel4 has joined #hardfought 04:00 Аllɑh is doing 04:00 -!- bluepixel4 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:03 I tried switching to the Curses terminal interface for the first time in a long time... the overall function looks good but I have empty floor tiles replaced with inverse question marks -- same as how it looks when you're watching someone else's game through the wrong character 'stripping' setting. 04:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:03 Anyone know what I do to fix that? I'm sure I've gotten past that in the past, but I can't remember. I do know my terminal is set to UTF-8 and not some wacky encoding. 04:05 -!- PeterQ has left #hardfought 04:05 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 04:05 nevermind. got it. 04:06 I had set the window type to curses, but forgot to set cursesgraphics and symset:curses. 04:09 I do miss utf8graphics 04:09 yeah :| 04:09 fancy altars and thrones 04:09 right! I think I was using pi and stuff 04:10 ooh, what did you use pi for? 04:10 STONEHENGE! 04:10 -- no, just for altars. That was before bars looked like pi, i think. 04:13 LarienTelrunya: YANI: nasty trap that scrambles up symbols 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:3285 04:13 PeterQ: planned :) 04:13 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2018-09-14 18:33 EDT: the tnnt build is in early alpha stage and there's a lot of testing left to do, which is why it's closed to everyone except *the people who are actually working on it*. as we get closer to launch, we'll open it up for more people to test. if you continue to spread false theories about some supposed inner circle training to beat everyone else, i'll bar you from speaking 04:14 -!- mgodzilla14 has joined #hardfought 04:14 Aⅼlaһ iѕ ⅾoinɡ 04:14 -!- mgodzilla14 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:14 !tell K2 that was just a suspicion which turned out to be false! I won't spread it anymore of course 04:14 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 04:15 if you want to train, just play 3.6.2 :-) 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 700 points, T:2476, killed by a pony 04:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (arch-lich), on T:18737 04:42 You are now wearing a shield of reflection. The dungeon acoustics noticeably change. 04:42 reflected sound! 04:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:18925 04:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] tenbeers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 560 points, T:1309, killed by a gnome, while reading a book 04:47 haaa! 04:47 -!- devicenull9 has joined #hardfought 04:48 Αⅼⅼаh ⅰs dоⅰᥒɡ 04:48 -!- devicenull9 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:48 -!- tenbeers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 d - a worthless piece of red glass (unpaid, 2625 zorkmids).--More-- 04:54 "worthless" 04:58 "Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." -Spock, Civ IV 05:04 !lastgame 05:04 PeterQ: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tenbeers/nh361/dumplog/1537000476.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PeterQ/nh361/dumplog/1536766237.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/xnethack/dumplog/1532060298.xnh.txt 05:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", on T:20433 05:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:20433 05:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:20437 05:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:20442 05:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 Grayswandir", on T:20447 05:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20513 05:20 :D 05:29 <@kritixilithos> congrats! 05:34 Thanks 05:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7031 05:36 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of teleport control", on T:21246 05:38 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 05:42 [hdf-us] [dyn] PavelC (Luxidream) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 17262 points, T:23724, poisoned by a locust 05:44 kek 05:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:21750 05:48 <@Luxidream> locusts are dumb 05:49 I have -25 AC I feel like a god 05:49 <@Luxidream> why did you wish for scrolls 05:49 <@Luxidream> instead of a magic marker 05:50 Because I'm bad 05:50 (Also I didn't have blank scrolls) 05:51 <@Luxidream> still looks like a win 05:51 <@Luxidream> shouldn't matter I guess 05:51 <@Luxidream> where's your levitation source 05:52 In my boh 05:53 <@Luxidream> you will likely need gold detection for the planes since you have 5 int 05:53 oh fok 05:54 Ah hah, scroll of fire 05:54 ._. dammit 05:54 <@Luxidream> well that looks like a new genocide target 05:54 <@Luxidream> in xnh 05:54 I'll let you know when I find a ?oGeno 05:54 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:55 <@Luxidream> you haven't genocided anything yet? 05:56 <@Luxidream> that sounds...fun? 05:57 <@Luxidream> that looks like a lich 05:58 <@Luxidream> keep your unicorn horn in main inventory btw 05:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22001 05:58 I genocided arch-liches 05:58 Is jubilex supposed to be hard 05:59 <@Luxidream> no 05:59 no 05:59 Ok 05:59 you need a wand of digging and something to heal poison (like a potion of extra healing) 05:59 <@Luxidream> none of them are supposed to be hard 05:59 <@Luxidream> except for demogorgon 05:59 let it engulf you, dig out, kill it (it will have 1 HP), heal yourself if necessary 05:59 that's all 06:01 <@Luxidream> do you have a blindfold or something 06:01 <@Luxidream> you need to kill that lich 06:02 I have a towel 06:02 What letter are liches again? 06:03 <@Luxidream> L 06:03 Oh yeah ty 06:04 I feel like I'm not making any progress 06:04 I keep having to retreat upstairs 06:05 <@Luxidream> now that the lich is dead you should be able to move on 06:05 holy shit it's 3 am 06:06 <@Luxidream> yeah...lol 06:08 Yeah this is gonna continue tommorow (later today, technically) 06:10 It's a bit after 6 here. 06:10 I've been up for about an hour. 06:10 Aren't timezones fun? 06:11 it's noon here 06:11 The fact that there are people in my country that are currently waking up is making me sad 06:12 IRC is enabling people to talk to other people from the past and the future 06:12 Clearly playing at ungodly hours in the morning works, since I've never actually gotten to the castle before. 06:12 PavelB: Are you normally a late-night person, or only on weekends? 06:12 I was gonna go to sleep at 9 06:13 Then I launched nethack 06:13 Ah. 06:13 I see. 06:13 Figuring I'd play a quick game, since I don't tend to get very far 06:13 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:26163 06:17 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:19 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:26 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 06:29 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 06:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 06:38 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 194 points, T:792, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8833 06:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 06:50 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Ord Alc Mal Law), 39468 points, T:10360, killed by a volt trap 07:03 [hdf-us] [fh] bitbarian (ebx) (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 32573 points, T:2206, killed by a blue jelly 07:06 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:28192 07:07 [hdf-us] [fh] bitcoin (ebx) (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 10290 points, T:384, killed by a fox 07:32 @Luxidream wait what's the new genocide target in xnh? 07:33 The only one that comes to mind is U. 07:33 <@Luxidream> I was just saying that the new engulfing slimes are annoying lol 07:34 those aren't new, that's one of the first patches I made against 3.6.0 :D 07:35 But yes, I was a little tired of green slimes being "nasty" and still barely ever actually starting sliming you. 07:38 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of arnibald, the former Prisoner, on T:3510 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11382 07:56 -!- is_null8 has joined #hardfought 07:56 Αllah is ԁoіᥒg 07:56 s∪n iѕ ᥒot ⅾoing Allаh іs dοing 07:56 -!- is_null8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:57 EPI: wands of wishing in bones files turn into wands of nothing to prevent the finder of the bones level from getting free wishes. 08:05 Even ones that weren't in the bones pile itself, of course. 08:06 unnethack clears out a part of the inventory of the deceased for bones files 08:07 the next step would have been to give some of the inventory to monsters on the level, degrade the stuff a little bit, etc. 08:08 the rationale behind that is that you would expect the stuff to get looted somewhat 08:09 yes, currently the flavor is you arrive immediately after the other guy's death 08:10 (and if you didn't, why is the corpse still fresh when you arrive?) 08:10 degrading the items would actually mean the monsters are less powerful when using them ;) 08:10 but yeah, I've been thinking about doing that, i.e. everything (not just the bones pile) has 80% chance of becoming cursed, positive enchantments/charges/whatever can be reduced etc. 08:11 why everything? 08:11 why should my death affect a random potion in some room I never got to explore? 08:14 there's probably no real way for the game to know whether an item on the floor was dropped there by you for bones stuffing purposes 08:14 after all, one could drop a bag of holding with 500 items and then die on purpose to give all those items to the next player 08:15 the bag and the items wouldn't even be cursed that way! 08:15 I'll probably want to make it so that all containers on a bones level are automatically emptied of all their contents 08:19 You just want to punish players for playing your variant, admit it 08:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:20 nah I just want to make it more balanced and ensure that things don't become too easy for the player 08:21 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed tinning kit", on T:30977 08:21 LarienTelrunya: I don't know whether it makes sense that the player has a corrupting influence or something over every item they touch 08:23 LarienTelrunya, on the other hand, monsters on a bones level might be way too hard 08:23 proper balancing would probably require getting rid of bones levels entirely 08:24 then why don't you remove bones files alltogether? 08:24 and the counterargument to THAT is, bones files are really fun1 08:24 jilles: nah, bones levels being hard is working as intended IMHO 08:25 aosdict: I agree, but fun != balanced 08:25 The ability to turn off bones files generally settles this debate with a "don't like it, don't play with 'em" 08:26 I mean, it's probably shitty if someone makes a griever bones level with Demogorgon and kills you, but bones files aren't left every time and if griever bones kill someone at all, it's usually an earlygame character so the player who got unlucky to receive such a bones level didn't lose much 08:31 EPI: randomly transform one or two scrolls in a bones file into scrolls of amnesia, to mess up those who peek at the dumplogs and go "ah, this is the scroll of enchant weapon, I don't need to identify it now" :D 08:34 -!- Defcronyke21 has joined #hardfought 08:35 Allɑh is doiᥒg 08:35 -!- Defcronyke21 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:36 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:51 AntiGulp: congrats you got a commit into vanilla 08:51 aaaaaaaaay 08:52 now everyone who faces a monster with multiple "oLS will curse your name 08:52 hehehehehe 08:52 Thanks! Actually not the first time, I’ve just used the official bug report page before. 08:52 Well, this was different from a bug report 08:52 True true 08:54 * AntiGulp goes back to fighting tech.c 08:56 Anybody happen to know where regex_init() is defined? 08:57 nhregex.c 08:58 Hm. 08:58 Brass doesn't seem to have that file. 08:59 Hmmm. That’s strange. Brass is 3.4.3 based, I don’t know if its defined there. 08:59 Maybe the build process is picking up some system library that defines it? 09:00 The error I'm getting is error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘struct re_pattern_buffer’ from type ‘int’ 09:00 tmp->match = regex_init() 09:00 match is a char * 09:00 Or should be. 09:01 I suspect regex_init() is wrong here, because a few lines earlier in the same file, we have tmp->regex = regex_init() 09:02 In that case, tmp is a struct plinemsg_type * 09:02 So in that case, tmp->regex is a struct nhregex * 09:03 Hmm, which doesn't appear to be defined anywhere *either*. 09:03 This is such a mess. 09:04 I think I might need to scrap this attempt to add MSGTYPE support, and redo it from scratch. 09:04 Or something. 09:06 Yeah, I’m monkeying with slash’em (3.4.3) right now, and there’s no real regex libraries I can see. I’m guessing that might be necessary. 09:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55917 09:28 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:56720 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56721 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:57023 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:57054 09:50 -!- ScottKevill has joined #hardfought 09:50 Allah iѕ dοiᥒɡ 09:50 -!- ScottKevill has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:51 I can’t seem to get role.c to recognize new MH_ tags. Is this something to do with racemask? 09:54 is this splice or slash'em 09:55 This is splice, it came up (yet again) when I was testing some slashem integration. I think I’m exceeding the boundaries of racemask. 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10449402 points, T:57076, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nobbs/nh343/dumplog/1536392247.nh343.txt 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1159 points, T:1649, killed by a jackal 10:11 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 96 points, T:147, killed by a kobold 10:12 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:22, killed by a sewer rat 10:22 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 626 points, T:2132, killed by a werejackal 10:22 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:8, killed by a jackal 10:25 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 10:28 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 183 points, T:1058, killed by an exploding crystal ball 10:32 -!- NL27 has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- NL27 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:161724 10:39 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a knife bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:21222 10:39 for fucksake 10:39 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-15 04:14 EDT: that was just a suspicion which turned out to be false! I won't spread it anymore of course 10:39 whats with the knives? 10:39 that's 3 knives and 2 quarterstaves heh 10:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:161835 10:52 -!- Mazhive_one has joined #hardfought 10:52 Aⅼⅼɑh is dоіng 10:52 -!- Mazhive_one has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:53 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3184 10:54 [hdf-us] [fh] bitzina (ebx) (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 10416 points, T:343, killed by a falling rock 10:56 [hdf-us] [fh] bitarian (ebx) (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2720 points, T:93, killed by a water moccasin 11:00 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:38602 11:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:06 You hit the tengu! The tengu zaps itself with a wand called teleporataion! 11:06 *facepalm* 11:07 sup dawg I heard you like teleporting so I gave you a wand ot teleportation so you can teleport when you teleport 11:07 hah 11:07 PeterQ: just got around to looking at the dumplog of your last slex run; did you really split all the bullets into individual stacks? or did you split them into stacks of 25, which would be good enough to get the maximum chance of uncursing? 11:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58407 11:09 <[Demo]> ok so im in a bad spot in dyna 11:09 <[Demo]> i have no way to travel across water 11:09 <[Demo]> what do i do? 11:09 I think I split them into individual stacks. I didn't find the "stack_too_big" code so I couldn't check how much was too much, and I think I had less than 30 bullets in total anyways 11:09 [Demo]: Find a hostile winter wolf. 11:09 ah. well, for bullets, 26 is "too much", i.e. only gives a 25 in 26 chance of success 11:09 <[Demo]> no i needa consistent way 11:09 [Demo]: or jumping boots 11:10 <[Demo]> to get across an ass load of water 11:10 <[Demo]> i can get out of the spot im in 11:10 <[Demo]> i have confusion and tele scrolls 11:10 [Demo]: polypile rings ;) 11:10 I used a hostile winter wolf to cross Medusa's once, in 3.4.3 11:10 <[Demo]> this isnt 3.4.3 11:10 Flying steed. 11:10 * LarienTelrunya uses hostile cold dragons to freeze lava in the variants that put lots of lava in gehennom :P 11:10 it works in dyna too demo 11:10 <[Demo]> this is medusa needs jumping or winter wolf, another level needs 3 boulders 11:10 <[Demo]> no 11:10 <[Demo]> not with this castle 11:11 <[Demo]> this castle is so bad that bhaak changed it in un after dyna development died 11:11 oh that one. i know the one i think 11:11 [Demo]: on which server are you playing? I don't see you :( 11:11 <[Demo]> not connected yet, eating ihop 11:11 itym ihob 11:11 It doesn't really matter how much water there is, though. You just position yourself between the cold-breather and the water and let them breathe at you. Rinse, repeat. 11:12 as long as there are no firebreathers about 11:12 international house of... batter? Bacon? 11:12 <[Demo]> i dont have a way to freeze all the water in the potential landing zone from coming up from the valley 11:12 Breakfast? 11:12 <[Demo]> burgers 11:12 aosdict: no burgers, believe it or not 11:12 * aosdict is familiar with international house of pancakes 11:13 <[Demo]> ok escaped, now to polypile rings until my wand dies 11:13 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shocking-ihop-admits-it-faked-ihob-name-change/ 11:13 * LarienTelrunya will go out to a greek(? at least they have gyros and stuff) restaurant with roommate ♥ 11:14 * aosdict likes gyros 11:14 what? aosdict, I thought you were vegetarian?! 11:15 or did I remember something wrong 11:15 yes. I like veggie gyros. 11:15 ah 11:15 ... 11:15 [Demo]: Or polypile elven cloaks/boots until you get levitation/water walking 11:15 Isn't gyros basically just 100% meat? 11:15 (Aren't?) 11:15 <[Demo]> oh fuck yeah, fort ludios 11:16 <[Demo]> alright i might have enough to explore 11:16 am I massively forgetting what a gyro is 11:16 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6563 11:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:58700 11:16 no, I'm remembering correctly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_(food) 11:16 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:17 it's this: https://ais.kochbar.de/kbrezept/485178_757656/400x266/gyros-selbst-gemacht-mit-pommes-und-ztsatziki-rezept.jpg 11:17 <[Demo]> im eating gross ihop eggs 11:17 basically the greek version of döner kebab :D 11:17 just imagine the meat replaced with grilled veggies and good to go 11:18 Oh, is "gyro" the singular? I was assuming "gyros" was the singular (second declension masculine Greek), but perhaps not. 11:19 <[Demo]> oh snap, got fire brand 11:19 <[Demo]> as a monk, should i use it? 11:20 doesn't fire brand kill all the potions of full healing meaning that you'll end up with far less max HP? 11:21 petition to rename fire brand to scrollbane and frost brand to potionbane 11:22 that's inaccurate since both destroy potions 11:22 scrollandpotionbane then 11:22 and mjollnir to ringandwandbane 11:23 <[Demo]> ndnh has special cased hallucination names for some monsters, might consider doing it for some items 11:23 EPI: new melee weapon named "taser", which does 1 point of lightning damage to the target. Kops often have them, but other weapon-using monsters can also spawn with one, and of course being hit by one can destroy wands and rings :D 11:24 Or extra EPI: monsters can also apply the taser to fire a nonreflectable lightning beam that stuns you and destroys wands and rings. 11:24 Only usable once, also paralyzes the hit target for 20 turns to keep the game balanced 11:25 I don't think tasers are literal lightning guns. 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Krabat (Val Fem), 50 points, T:127, jackal 11:27 alright time to leave :) 11:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:28 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:27553 11:29 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a hill orc corpse, on T:3130 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Krabat (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1825 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh343] Krabat (Val Hum Fem Law), 2090 points, T:2197, killed by a killer bee 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3885 11:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1226 points, T:2929, killed by a poisonous corpse 11:50 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: AntiGulp] 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3347 points, T:4179, killed by a magic missile 11:52 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 35896 points, T:9405, killed by a rock mole, while fainted from lack of food 11:58 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:00 <[Demo]> found another magic lamp, emptied poly wand, no source of levitation still 12:03 * AntiGulp making herself an omelette 12:06 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:41306 12:17 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Ord Alc Mal Law), 64245 points, T:7428, killed by a monster (deep gnome) 12:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Mar Dvp Mal Law) averted death, on T:3 12:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Mar Dvp Mal Law), 244 points, T:4, killed by a death ray 12:24 !who 12:24 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] Demo [dyn] Leeroy [slex] k2 [sp] mightyquinn [sp] barleywine [nh362] samiam [nh362] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:25 <[Demo]> this is a really shit dyna game 12:25 <[Demo]> i literally only started it to make a joke with the name though i didnt intend to actually play 12:25 <[Demo]> and now im nearly 41k turns in 12:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:35 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Ble Alb Mal Law), 16 points, T:30, killed by a monster (the ghost of Leeroy) 12:44 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:59 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Tha Ang Mal Law) killed Tomoka Kayahara, on T:255 13:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:07 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:39462 13:07 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39463 13:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 13:17 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 13:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:28 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Client Quit] 13:31 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 13:49 <[Demo]> what happens to monks that try to use shields? 13:53 i've ascended a monk using a small shield 13:53 -to hit 13:54 <[Demo]> hmm, kinda wanna use a shield of reflection 13:54 i don't think that will work out 13:54 And no staggering blow 13:55 <[Demo]> do bigger shields make your tohit lower? 13:55 <[Demo]> maybe dyna changes it, idk 13:56 i used a small shield because spellcasting, nothing to do with to hit 13:56 <[Demo]> im not getting a cumbersome message 13:56 <@Winsalot> Anyone remember if it's possible to recharge wands of wishing in FIQhack? 13:56 <@Luxidream> yes 13:56 so is it? 13:56 <@Winsalot> how many times? 13:56 <@Luxidream> just like vanilla 13:56 <@Luxidream> once 13:56 <@Winsalot> ok, thanks 13:57 [Demo]: No, and if you're in mid-to-late game it probably does not matter anyways 13:57 <@Luxidream> [Demo] you get a tohit bonus for not wearing a shield, but there's no penalty for wearing one 13:57 <@Luxidream> also luck does not affect to-hit at all in dyna 13:57 <@Luxidream> so that statement is less true 13:57 <[Demo]> wait what 13:58 <[Demo]> so can i wear body armour too? 13:58 sure, -20 to hit 13:58 <@Luxidream> body armor is the usual -20 penalty 13:58 <[Demo]> ok damn 13:58 And you lose the same bonus as you would from wearing a shield 13:59 <[Demo]> i can hit shit fine with this shield on 13:59 might depend on the shit 14:00 <[Demo]> hmm can even hit shit fine with frost brand 14:02 @Winsalot there's a bunch of magical items in your game 14:02 <@Winsalot> Yeah I guess 14:02 <@Winsalot> barracks in castle were generous 😃 14:03 <[Demo]> oh shit detonation shurikens, these probably mulch? 14:03 <[Demo]> oh how shitty 14:03 [Demo]: yes, detonation weapons explode when thrown 14:03 and mulch right away 14:04 <[Demo]> absolute horse shit gift then 14:04 <[Demo]> cause shurikens never mulch in dyna 14:04 heh 14:04 dip in cursed wonder :P 14:05 <@Winsalot> FIQ: FIQslex when? 14:06 no 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:7774 14:09 <@Winsalot> Though something like revese identify scrolls would be nice 14:09 I have considered it 14:10 tame all the things 14:11 Could be worse, could be detonation spears. 14:11 Like detonation shuriken, except they weigh a ton. 14:11 <[Demo]> there should be a guaranteed way of getting over a lot of water before medusas 14:11 No. 14:11 The fact that there isn't is important, IMO. 14:11 The user has to *find* a way. 14:11 <[Demo]> so that you can be stuck for thousands of turns? 14:11 And there are a LOT of ways. 14:12 You just have to be inventive. 14:12 <[Demo]> when you get too inventive you get stuck 14:12 <[Demo]> well in vanilla its fine 14:12 I once tried to make a list of all the possible ways to get across water in NetHack. 14:12 <[Demo]> but with this fucking stupid fuckign dyna shit 14:12 There are like fifty of them. 14:12 <@Luxidream> what castle level is the bad one in dyna 14:12 And I don't think my list was exhaustive. 14:13 <[Demo]> https://github.com/tung/DynaHack/blob/unnethack/libnitrohack/dat/castle.des#L254 this fucker 14:14 <@Luxidream> you can get back into castle from the backdoor 14:14 bhaak corrected that map in unnethack 14:15 <[Demo]> yeah thats how bad it is 14:15 <[Demo]> that bhaak corrected it 14:15 <[Demo]> anyway i can get down to there but then i have no way to do anything 14:15 <@Luxidream> I think I got stuck once 14:15 [Demo]: hey, I'm on the Devteam, not undead 14:15 <@Luxidream> had to confused tele out 14:15 <[Demo]> a regular castle level id be fine 14:15 I can still programm! 14:16 <[Demo]> yeah but like you accepted it had an issue that means it had a real issue and im not just bitching about everything 14:16 <@Luxidream> bhaak: don't you also hate the living 14:16 <@Luxidream> 😛 14:16 only players 14:16 and humans 14:17 @Winsalot you almost died 14:17 but I can't terrorize humans legally 14:17 <[Demo]> also though still fuck this castle level cause like a normal castle level all you need is tonal, this one requires a way to cross water and not just tonal 14:17 <@Winsalot> FIQ: #YOLO 14:17 would have been gg if he had slow monster 14:19 <@Luxidream> you can use acid to break the bars 14:19 [Demo]: regarding getting stuck, be happy that it's not slex 14:19 <@Luxidream> sometimes the dragons generated in the front two rooms can break down the bars 14:19 There are levels full of rock where you have to dig every step in slex 14:19 <[Demo]> yeah i did that in unnethack 14:19 <@Luxidream> meaning you don't even have to clear castle to get the wand 14:19 <[Demo]> with the dragons 14:19 that's true, but getting means to cross water are easy in nethack 14:19 <[Demo]> how do i get a means? 14:19 I once got one of those at DL 2. Instant quit 14:19 <[Demo]> im all out of polymorphs and had no luck polypiling everything i could scrape up in the dungeon 14:20 <[Demo]> i might have to go for levitation spellbook? 14:21 where are you? 14:21 <[Demo]> dlvl 14 altar scumming cause i cant come up with better shit to do 14:22 <[Demo]> had to dorpoise out on that shit castle with confused teleport when i got down there and realized it was that castle 14:22 <[Demo]> havent found a single wand of cold this game and even did a ludios raid 14:22 <@Luxidream> you can just fill in the holes with earth and get the wand 14:22 <@Luxidream> there are three sets of trapdoors in that castle version 14:22 every time I was in that situation, I went for Gehennom. there's ton of shit down there 14:23 <[Demo]> i dont have any earth left 14:23 <[Demo]> i dont have any way to get to the trap doors 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class a, on T:179979 14:23 <[Demo]> i have no source of jumping so i cant do little ghettos like that either 14:23 oh? drawbridge destroyed or no tonal? 14:23 <@Luxidream> read earth out in front of the castle 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class b, on T:179979 14:23 <[Demo]> i cant get to drawbridge 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class d, on T:179980 14:24 <[Demo]> its the shitty one where you have to cross water to get to it? 14:24