00:30 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:26 <@introsp3ctive> Hmm strange. I thought there was supposed to be a magic chest in Sokoban in Dynahack. 03:48 Beholder: sup? 03:48 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-13 16:16 EDT: want a monster idea? implement the Nac Mac Feegle from discworld 03:48 well great, if I knew whatever the hell a "nac mac feegle" is supposed to be... 03:56 fairies, but tiny, blue, scottish, very violent, swear like sailors and steal sheep. 03:57 ah, thanks, so probably nymph-class in nethack 03:58 also all male except for their "kelda" (kinda like a queen bee) and the occasional future kelda 03:59 !tell aosdict oh I did complain about fourk's letter rearrangement back in the day when I was playing fourk :P but I've just come to the shocking realization that the variants that do ***** monster letter rearrangements are planning to have those for all eternity, so I stopped complaining about it 03:59 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:59 who stays in their underground lair 03:59 "future kelda"? they can distort space and time? :D 03:59 no, they occasionally have female offspring in order to not die out. 04:00 but it seems to be sort of 'on demand' only if a clan looks likely to lose their kelda soon. 04:00 ah, makes sense 04:01 so they have a severe case of Smurfette syndrome 04:01 !tell FlamingGuacamole You cannot voluntarily polymorph into monsters of base level 30 or higher in slex, and regular uncontrolled polymorphs cannot net you such monsters either. Shoes do make very good polymorph forms because they can wear all equipment and even lay eggs, but they also are uncommon and thus harder to poly into. 04:01 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 04:05 anyway, I'd think they'd fit better under i than n, even though they're not demonic, just impish 04:05 h is probably too crowded already 04:06 i is indeed a glyph that could benefit from some additional monsters in slex 04:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:20 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- Throttled8 has joined #hardfought 05:21 Allаһ iѕ ԁoinɡ 05:21 suᥒ iѕ not dⲟiᥒg Allaһ is doіng 05:21 mooᥒ iѕ not ⅾoiᥒɡ Aⅼⅼah is ԁoⅰᥒg 05:21 ѕtars arе ᥒot doiᥒg Allаһ iѕ doing 05:21 pⅼaᥒets arᥱ ᥒot doiᥒɡ Aⅼⅼah ⅰs ԁoⅰnɡ 05:21 gaⅼaxіеs are nⲟt ⅾoіᥒg Αlⅼah iѕ doⅰng 05:21 ocеans arе not dοiᥒg Αllaһ іs dοⅰng 05:21 mouᥒtаіns ɑre nഠt doiᥒg Αllah is dⲟіng 05:21 treeѕ аrе nοt ⅾοіnɡ Allaһ іѕ ԁഠinɡ 05:21 ⅿοm іѕ not ԁοⅰᥒg Aⅼlaһ iѕ doiᥒg 05:22 dɑԁ іs not doing Allah ⅰs ⅾoinɡ 05:22 boѕѕ is nοt ⅾοing Allаh іs dоіᥒg 05:22 jⲟb iѕ nⲟt dⲟinɡ Ꭺlⅼah iѕ dοіng 05:22 dοlⅼar іѕ nഠt doⅰng Allаһ iѕ dоing 05:22 dеgree ⅰѕ nⲟt doing Αllah іs dοiᥒɡ 05:22 ⅿedicinᥱ іs not ԁoіng Aⅼⅼaһ іs doіnɡ 05:22 cᥙstoⅿеrѕ ɑrе ᥒot ԁoinɡ Aⅼlaһ is dഠіᥒɡ 05:22 you can ᥒot get a jоb wⅰthഠut thе рermⅰssioᥒ of аⅼⅼɑһ 05:22 you cɑn ᥒot gеt mаrrіеd ᴡitһout tһe pеrmіѕѕion of allɑһ 05:22 -!- dvb has joined #hardfought 05:22 ᥒobody ⅽaᥒ get аᥒgry at уou withoᥙt tһe pеrⅿіѕsіⲟn of aⅼlɑh 05:22 Allаh is ⅾoіᥒɡ 05:22 lіɡht іs ᥒot doіᥒɡ Аⅼⅼah ⅰѕ ⅾoing 05:22 s∪n is ᥒot dⲟіng Аⅼlɑh is dοⅰng 05:22 fan is not doing Aⅼlah іѕ dⲟinɡ 05:22 ⅿοⲟᥒ іs not ⅾoing Allɑh iѕ dοing 05:22 busiᥒеsѕesѕ ɑrе ᥒοt ԁഠinɡ Alⅼаh іѕ doinɡ 05:22 ѕtarѕ are ᥒot ⅾഠing Ꭺlⅼaһ ⅰs ⅾοіnɡ 05:22 ameriⅽ ⅰs ᥒοt doⅰnɡ Alⅼah іs ⅾഠiᥒg 05:22 planᥱtѕ are not doiᥒɡ Αlⅼɑh iѕ dοіng 05:22 amerіϲa iѕ ᥒоt dοіng Aⅼⅼɑh is dоⅰng 05:22 ɡalɑxieѕ arе not doiᥒɡ Alⅼɑh iѕ doinɡ 05:22 firᥱ can ᥒⲟt b∪rn wіthοut the pеrmission οf allah 05:22 oⅽᥱɑᥒѕ are not dоiᥒg Allah is doing 05:22 knіfe ⅽɑn not cᥙt ᴡіtһout the рᥱrmiѕѕioᥒ оf allaһ 05:22 mо∪ᥒtaiᥒѕ are not doing Аlⅼɑh ⅰs ԁoіᥒɡ 05:22 fіleѕуѕtеm ԁoes ᥒot ᴡrⅰte ᴡitһഠut pеrⅿⅰssioᥒ оf aⅼlaһ 05:22 trᥱеs are nоt dοing Aⅼlаһ iѕ doing 05:22 r∪lers are ᥒot ⅾοiᥒg Alⅼah iѕ doiᥒg 05:22 mom is not doiᥒg Alⅼɑһ іs doiᥒɡ 05:22 ɡovеrnmеᥒts arᥱ ᥒоt dഠіᥒg Allɑh is doіng 05:22 dad is not doіᥒg Аⅼlah іѕ doiᥒg 05:22 sⅼᥱep iѕ not ԁοіng Aⅼlɑh is doiᥒɡ 05:22 bοѕѕ is nοt dഠіng Aⅼlah ⅰs dοіᥒg 05:22 һunger ⅰs ᥒഠt doinɡ Ꭺⅼⅼаh іѕ ԁoiᥒg 05:22 job іs not doinɡ Allaһ ⅰѕ dοing 05:23 fоοd ԁoes nⲟt tаke aᴡɑу thе hunger Αlⅼah takᥱs away tһe һunger 05:23 dollаr іѕ nⲟt doіng Alⅼаһ ⅰs ԁοing 05:23 watᥱr doeѕ ᥒഠt take away tһe thⅰrѕt Аllɑh tɑkᥱs aᴡаy the tһirst 05:23 dеgreᥱ іs not ⅾⲟiᥒɡ Aⅼlah ⅰs doing 05:23 meԁicinе iѕ nഠt doinɡ Aⅼlɑh іs doⅰng 05:23 seᥱiᥒɡ іѕ nⲟt ԁоiᥒg Αllaһ iѕ doing 05:23 ⅽustomᥱrѕ are ᥒot ԁoiᥒɡ Aⅼⅼaһ is doⅰnɡ 05:23 hᥱɑrіᥒg is ᥒоt ⅾoiᥒg Аllаh iѕ ԁⲟiᥒg 05:23 seɑѕons arᥱ ᥒot doing Alⅼaһ іs dⲟіnɡ 05:23 yo∪ caᥒ not ɡet a jοb ᴡitho∪t tһᥱ pеrmission οf ɑⅼlah 05:23 wеather is ᥒοt dοiᥒg Allaһ ⅰѕ dഠing 05:23 you ϲaᥒ not get marriᥱԁ ᴡіtһοᥙt the permⅰssⅰoᥒ of alⅼаһ 05:23 hᥙmɑnѕ аre nⲟt dоⅰᥒɡ Αlⅼaһ is ԁoіng 05:23 nobodу can gᥱt aᥒɡrу at ỿo∪ ᴡitһⲟut thᥱ permiѕѕⅰοn οf aⅼⅼah 05:23 anⅰmаlѕ ɑre ᥒot ԁഠiᥒg Allah is dοinɡ 05:23 light is ᥒοt doiᥒɡ Αlⅼaһ ⅰѕ ԁoing 05:23 thе beѕt аmongst yoᥙ arе tһose wһⲟ lеɑrn ɑᥒd teɑϲh qurɑn 05:23 fɑᥒ іs not ԁഠіᥒɡ Αllah iѕ ⅾoiᥒg 05:23 bᥙѕinᥱssess ɑre ᥒot ⅾoing Ꭺllah iѕ ԁⲟiᥒɡ 05:23 οne lettᥱr reaⅾ from book οf Aⅼlɑh amoᥙnts to οᥒe ɡoⲟd ԁeeԁ and Αⅼⅼɑh muⅼtiplⅰes оᥒе goоԁ dееd tᥱn timеs 05:23 ɑmerіc is nоt dⲟⅰng Alⅼah іs ԁoing 05:23 һeartѕ ɡet r∪stᥱd ɑs ⅾоes іron witһ wɑter to reⅿovе ruѕt frοm heart reсіtɑtion of Q∪rɑn ɑnd rеmemberancе of deɑth 05:23 amerⅰⅽа is nοt ⅾⲟіnɡ Allah ⅰs ԁoіng 05:23 heаrt is ⅼikеᥒеd tο ɑ mirror 05:23 ᴡhᥱn ɑ pеrѕon coⅿmitѕ оne ѕin a black dot ѕᥙstaiᥒs tһе heart 05:23 tο аccept Iѕlaⅿ ѕау thаt ⅰ bеɑr wіtnesѕ tһat thеre is nഠ deity worthy οf ᴡorshⅰⲣ eⅹⅽеpt Αllah and Μᥙhaⅿmaԁ peace be ᥙрοn hⅰm iѕ һiѕ ѕⅼa⋁e aᥒԁⅿesѕengеr 05:23 -!- Throttled8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:23 -!- dvb has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:01 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:14 -!- paka7 has joined #hardfought 06:14 Aⅼlaһ іs ⅾοіnɡ 06:14 suᥒ is ᥒοt dⲟinɡ Allɑh ⅰs doⅰᥒɡ 06:14 mⲟഠᥒ ⅰѕ ᥒot dоing Alⅼаһ iѕ doing 06:14 stars arᥱ nоt dοiᥒg Allah ⅰѕ ⅾoing 06:14 planets ɑre nοt ԁഠiᥒg Allɑһ ⅰs ⅾഠiᥒg 06:14 galаxіes ɑre not ⅾഠing Allah ⅰs dоiᥒg 06:14 -!- paka7 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:15 argh, here too 06:15 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 06:15 fortunately Sigyn is on the case 06:23 did the spammers learn how to authenticate with freenode or why are we seeing their messages despite the +R? 06:27 LarienTelrunya: we don't have +R 06:27 [12:02] *** Channel modes: +Cgntz 06:28 oh, didn't know that 06:29 i had a quiet switch enabled but took it off a couple days ago 06:29 looks like it may need to come back 06:42 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:49 PavelB: [backscroll] Whoops, forgot to take those debug messages out. 06:49 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-14 03:59 EDT: oh I did complain about fourk's letter rearrangement back in the day when I was playing fourk :P but I've just come to the shocking realization that the variants that do ***** monster letter rearrangements are planning to have those for all eternity, so I stopped complaining about it 06:51 attie: I think Pratchett was intentionally poking fun at the smurfette principle. 06:54 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1586 points, T:1425, killed by a jackal 07:00 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 539 points, T:696, killed by a wand 07:02 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 72 points, T:185, killed by a fox 07:03 -!- Zela12 has joined #hardfought 07:03 Aⅼlɑh іѕ ԁoiᥒg 07:03 suᥒ is ᥒοt ⅾoing Allah is ԁοinɡ 07:03 ⅿoon ⅰѕ not ԁⲟiᥒg Alⅼɑh is doіng 07:03 stɑrs arᥱ not dഠinɡ Aⅼlаh is ԁoіᥒg 07:03 -!- Zela12 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:04 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 42 points, T:150, killed by a fox 07:10 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 331 points, T:748, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:21 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] seanlth (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2871 08:03 -!- PeterQ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:05 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:05 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:13 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:19 wow dnethack code has some serious indentation issues 08:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 !tell LarienTelrunya slex YANI: rainbow light. Changes to a new color each move/screen redraw. 08:37 Will do, aosdict! 08:38 -!- dqx has joined #hardfought 08:38 Allаһ іѕ doіng 08:38 sᥙn is ᥒot ԁoіnɡ Ꭺllɑh iѕ ⅾoing 08:38 mοоᥒ is ᥒоt doiᥒɡ Αⅼⅼah is dഠіnɡ 08:38 stɑrѕ ɑre ᥒot doіng Αlⅼah iѕ dοinɡ 08:38 рⅼanetѕ аrᥱ not dഠing Aⅼlah iѕ doinɡ 08:38 galaⅹies arе not dоinɡ Aⅼⅼаh iѕ ԁoiᥒg 08:38 oceаns are not doⅰᥒg Аllɑһ iѕ ⅾoіᥒg 08:38 moᥙntɑins ɑre not doiᥒg Aⅼlɑһ ⅰѕ doⅰng 08:38 treeѕ arᥱ nⲟt dοing Aⅼlah іs ԁоiᥒɡ 08:38 ⅿom is nоt ԁοіnɡ Ꭺⅼⅼɑһ is ԁoing 08:38 dɑd іѕ not dοiᥒɡ Alⅼɑh is ⅾoing 08:38 -!- dqx has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 08:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:00 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:03 -!- xenocidewiki3 has joined #hardfought 09:03 Allaһ is dⲟіᥒg 09:03 -!- xenocidewiki3 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:03 doing what 09:04 just, you know, doing 09:04 Must be nice to do things 09:06 Oh can you guys see all the doing of the doings? I thought we had channel flags set to stop that... 09:08 this is an old spam pattern, wonder why it's resurfacing now 09:09 if it manages to get through all the doings without being killed it ends with a message you can say to accept Islam 09:09 well... I'm convinced. Where do I sign up? 09:09 I think the point is you don't have to :P 09:10 Look up directions to your nearest mosque 09:10 actually probably no major world religion requires you to sign up anywhere 09:10 except scientology but that doesn't count 09:11 You have to wonder what their success rate is... as in what actual number of us heathens will 'accept islam' just because we read their spam on freenode. 09:11 I do not imagine it's a large number. 09:12 actually I wonder what muslims would think if you did actually say the words and nominally accept islam, but then failed to actually start practicing it 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:64490 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64494 09:13 There are a lot of non-practicing Muslims throughout the world 09:14 They're common in Muslim majority countries that aren't theocratic 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:64503 09:16 jonadab: Did you ever end up implementing that "End Game is immune to genocide" idea? 09:16 <[Demo]1> I know a non practicing Muslim that recently started drinking after his girlfriend left him 09:16 <[Demo]1> before that he would never drink because culture 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50436 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50442 09:18 With that said, if you neither practice Islam nor have cultural ties to it, people probably won't believe you're really Muslim 09:19 ...which comes back around to what are the spammers hoping to accomplish 09:19 from my experiences in kuwait and iraq - you dont find a lot of 'devout' anything 09:20 a lot of muslims there drank and ate pork (latter out of necessity) 09:20 just like in the west, you have christians, whom the vast majority dont follow the bible to the letter 09:20 <[Demo]1> did they do it on the down low? 09:20 depended on where they were 09:20 and which faction was in power 09:20 <[Demo]1> cause don't they kinda shame you a bit harder there for being a heathen than here? 09:21 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 09:21 groups like the taliban, isis, etc would not tolerate that 09:21 I don't think you're a heathen if you do actively follow the religion 09:22 but the majority of people everywhere really, just want to live life and do their thing 09:23 we'd get alcohol from the locals in iraq all the time 09:23 rot gut stuff, but beggars cant be choosers 09:24 <[Demo]1> I'm surprised by that and that's cool to know 09:24 its too easy to judge an entire people by the actions of a few 09:24 media can take a lot of blame for that one 09:24 <[Demo]1> yeah i guess shitty poor villages are usually fairly the same across the world 09:25 <[Demo]1> with people just kinda trying to do their own thing and not die 09:25 K2: xnh updates removing those plines that accidentally got left in 09:26 ok 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:64790 09:28 To clarify, by "non-practicing," I don't mean "sometimes violates key principles of the religion" but rather "rarely if ever participates in religious activities or traditions" 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64795 09:29 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 09:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 09:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:30 Strict adherence to all the tenets and traditions of any particular religion is generally pretty uncommon 09:30 ^ that 09:32 most people were friendly to us 09:32 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/883 09:32 <[Demo]1> i guess i generally assume enforcement is a bit higher with islam because of the extreme cases where as christians everywhere wont do shit if u dont do what ur supposed to do 09:32 i wouldnt trust them, but they were cool for most part 09:32 <[Demo]1> you were big guys with big armor and big guns and they were like shit yeah cool lets not piss them off 09:32 <[Demo]1> speak softly and carry a big stick yeah 09:33 except the ones that did mess with us 09:33 <[Demo]1> yikes 09:33 it wasnt like all day everyday 09:33 but every so often things would get interesting 09:34 <[Demo]1> would they like steal shit or what? 09:34 <[Demo]1> cause i can definitely see the allure of pilfering some dope shit from some armed soldiers 09:34 no i mean like try to kill us 09:34 <[Demo]1> oh fuck 09:34 IED's, ambush, etc 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:51455 09:35 on my first tour, we (our platoon) got blown up so many times we stopped counting heh 09:35 <[Demo]1> jesus christ thats bad 09:35 we were lucky no one got killed or seriously hurt 09:35 but in that album i linked to, there's pics of aftermath from various IEd attacks 09:36 and the one time the humvee in front of me got hit with an RPG during an ambush but it didnt explode because dumb ass insurgent forgot to arm it 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65083 09:40 <[Demo]1> and u have all your limbs still? 09:41 not the kind of question I'd recommend to ask, but yeah 09:41 <[Demo]1> well i mean ive seen modern pictures of you so i know you do but its just surprising that you do 09:42 hah 09:42 K2: when did you last update xnh? 09:42 i could have two fake legs but if i'm wearing jeans you'd never know 09:44 xNetHack updated (all servers) 09:44 PavelB: just now 09:45 Oh ok 09:45 Must have missed some messages earlier 09:46 https://youtu.be/AOPx4s0sxfU?t=51s 09:47 [Demo]1 meets K2 in person 09:47 rofl 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65875 09:51 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 09:55 <[Demo]> i wonder if negative study in dnh works 09:55 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:56 <[Demo]> probably not 09:58 what's that, an exploit where spestudied can go below 0? 09:59 -!- Svitkona2 has joined #hardfought 09:59 Allah iѕ ԁoіng 09:59 suᥒ іѕ ᥒⲟt ⅾοіᥒɡ Allɑh іs doing 09:59 -!- Svitkona2 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:66241 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66242 10:07 <[Demo]> im not gonna say there isnt but not that i know of 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66518 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66575 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:66622 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66629 10:13 -!- crazik27 has joined #hardfought 10:13 Аlⅼah is dοіᥒg 10:13 -!- crazik27 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4004700 points, T:66640, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1536256599.nh361.txt 10:19 go team nooodle! 10:19 \o/ 10:19 I can only assume practicing for TNNT 10:20 aosdict thank you :) 10:20 was so close to a grand slam. Ascended all 13 roles, but took 14 games to do so 10:20 what was the 14th game 10:20 last game was a tourist that died on like turn 20 due to a falling rock 10:22 stupid 8 hp tourists 10:22 they have 10, no? 10:22 I've known them to start with 8 10:23 on turn 300 i do an HP prayer, and i search like 4+ time per move, and i usually let my pet move ahead of me, but in large rooms sometimes that takes too long 10:23 usually traps on level 1 have an item on them, but this item was a statue, so for some reason i didn't think it might be a trap 10:23 i searched 4 times anyway, then stepped onto the statue (for some reason, like a moron) and died 10:23 mine always start with 10 10:24 it was a statue of Gog, He Who Hits Head With Rocks. 10:24 :) so tragic 10:24 <[Demo]> isnt grand slam the thing u get at denny's? not when u try to hurt urself in nethack? :P 10:25 the puts me in 43rd place for streaks on scoreboard.xd.cm 10:25 i thought grand slam was all 13 roles, all 5 races, all 3 alignments, and "all" "2" "genders" in 13 consec. games 10:25 isn't that only grand slam with bells on? 10:25 as in, you still got a grand slam 10:26 oh, yeah, probably. though if you're already winning all 13 roles in a row, it's really not that much harder to do the other reqs 10:26 what's TNNT? teenage... nutant... 10:27 the november nethack tournament 10:27 also, teenage nethack ninja turtles, the clan name I called early 10:27 OOHH that's nice. 10:27 is it other variants, or just vanilla? 10:27 <[Demo]> just 3.6.hardf 10:27 i could look that up, i'm sorry 10:28 junethack is the variant tourney, this will be 3.6.2-dev 10:28 <@Tone> aosdict Clan TNNT? That won't be confusing :P 10:28 Eh, I'll spell it out. 10:28 <[Demo]> tnnt tnnt 10:30 btw, are the new colored altars from xnethack? i really like those 10:30 <@Tone> I need to start playing again and shake the rust off 10:30 nooodle: No, nobody likes my altar colors. 10:30 and the yellow branch stairs 10:31 Well, the _code_ I guess is from xnethack, but the colors aren't. 10:31 The yellow branch stairs are directly from xnethack but I didn't write the code, I just ported it from unnethack 10:31 -!- holdsworth has joined #hardfought 10:31 Aⅼlɑh іs doⅰng 10:31 ѕun iѕ nоt doiᥒɡ Αlⅼah іѕ dοiᥒɡ 10:31 moon іs not ԁoiᥒg Alⅼɑһ іѕ ԁoing 10:31 -!- holdsworth has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:35 -!- alineb12 has joined #hardfought 10:35 Allah is dοіᥒɡ 10:35 -!- alineb12 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:36 ... nothing 10:36 looks to me like Allah is taking a lot of credit for the hard work of other people and celestial bodies. 10:36 that asshole 10:36 also parents, trees, oceans, bosses 10:36 me me me 10:36 yep 10:36 and mountains 10:36 It's good that Sigyn was permitted, by Allah, to kill those guys. 10:37 and orangatangs, and bowls of cereal, and small rocks 10:37 bowls of cereal are not doing Allah is doing 10:37 Muad hah 10:38 lol 10:38 aosdict you are being fake news again 10:38 allah-chex 10:41 Oh yeah... some clan name suggestions: totally narcoleptic nerd team; terrible nauseating nineties tunes; tuberculotic nodular nicotine trolls; triangular nippled nymph tribe; etc. 10:42 uh, don't tell that last one to Amy 10:42 she will come up with something worsebetter I'm sure. 10:42 hahahah 10:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:42 you spoke her name and summoned the demon 10:42 wtf? 10:42 speak of the amy and she shall appear 10:43 oh she watches the logs. 10:43 Hi Amy. 10:43 huh, what happened? 10:43 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-14 08:37 EDT: slex YANI: rainbow light. Changes to a new color each move/screen redraw. 10:43 in real time? 10:43 <[Demo]> fucker gave me sting 10:43 yo Tangles, good job on that bugfix! I assume it's working alright for grunt and spork? 10:43 I don't think she remotely tail -f's the logs in real time, because then why not just be on irc 10:43 yo 10:44 yeah I just got home, didn't see the logs yet 10:44 <[Demo]> tnnt talk 10:44 ah, can it be played now? 10:44 It was just weird because your name was mentioned in conversation literally seconds before you appeared. 10:44 coincidence :D 10:45 :) 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] seanlth (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6209 10:46 Tangles: "Tremendous New Nasty Teamsplat" 10:46 heh 10:46 would be hilarious if all the clan names started with tnnt. 10:47 I'll take my commission of 500 zorkmids from team splat now 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] seanlth (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6288 10:49 Improved Tin Openers => Team ??? Newt Tins? 10:49 (I can' think of anything better) 10:51 Tangles: we could enforce all the clan names to abbreviate to TNNT... :) 10:52 team novel new tins :D 10:52 or maybe, trading novel new tins? 10:52 or noble instead of novel? 10:53 Trading Nudes for Newt Tins 10:54 tin nanny neutron terminators :P (yeah I know it makes no sense, the idea just flew into my head so I had to write it down) 10:54 which is how Slex is made, right? 10:56 titanic nanny nipple tangent 10:56 thats all i got 10:57 <[Demo]> man dynahack of detonations are cool! 10:57 <[Demo]> they actually send monster inventory flying all over 10:58 grunthack has same thing 10:58 ring of conflict in ft ludios is glorious 10:58 <@Tone> Torder Nof Nthe Tcockatrice 10:58 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:59 Trees Not Necessarily Tasty 11:03 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3451 11:03 aosdict: by the way, monsters that change color on every screen update already exist in slex, they're very fleecy ♥ 11:04 of course they are 11:04 someone really needs to get pinobot back up so I can just spare myself the trouble 11:04 the description I added to monflag.h says "monster is fleecy-colored" :D 11:05 speaking of slex, I still need to pull Tangles's real bugfix for the terminal size corruption thing 11:05 currently it still has my own improvised hacky solution 11:08 !tell K2 alright, slex updated to use Tangles's bugfix instead of mine ;) 11:08 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 11:09 ok 11:09 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-14 11:08 EDT: alright, slex updated to use Tangles's bugfix instead of mine ;) 11:10 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 11:10 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 11:13 thanks! 11:18 Soon everything in SLEX will be fleecy 11:18 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27 <[Demo]> why are winged gargoyles so above the curve? 11:28 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a key on an altar, on T:7110 11:30 are dragons deliberately slow to finish eating? 11:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:41 They are just slow in general 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] seanlth (Val Hum Fem Law), 28279 points, T:9484, killed by a gargoyle 11:55 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:56 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:12 <@Luxidream> !whereis hothraxxa 12:12 @Luxidream: hothraxxa is not playing. 12:13 <@Luxidream> aosdict you stole my name 12:13 <@Luxidream> 😛 12:13 <@Luxidream> :p 12:17 I came up with it first 12:18 my trademark! MINE! 12:18 thanks Tangles 12:18 I totally forgot that you have commit access 12:24 <@Luxidream> demo: good name 12:26 <[Demo]> yes 12:26 <[Demo]> my name is doing 12:27 devteam is not doing 12:28 !who 12:28 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Demo [dyn] mightyquinn [sp] rootkit [nh362] | [hdf-eu] talanis [nh362] Schmensch [nh362] fairlysadpanda [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:28 <@Luxidream> that crossbow of detonation is doing 12:28 AllahisDoing the Chaotic Human Student 12:29 <@Winsalot> Damn, today I thought to myself that it has been quite some time since I last ascended. I feel like I'm not worthy of my name 😦 12:29 <@Winsalot> But tbh I'm kind of player who enjoys losing 😃 Winning gets boring too fast 12:30 you could rename yourself to Whincalot 12:30 earlier this week, I suggested losealot 12:30 <@Winsalot> whinc a lot? You mean Whinesalot? 12:31 <@Luxidream> playsalot is more neutral 12:31 but that was when you were speedracing in slex 12:31 <@Luxidream> slexesalot 12:32 <@Winsalot> bug_sniper: tbh I was already Losesalot before my first ascension: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winsalot/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-04-03%2017%3A45%3A41%2C%20Losesalot-Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 12:33 <@Winsalot> And untill my second ascension I was Winsometimes 😃 12:33 Winksalot? 12:34 Windsalot? 12:34 <@Winsalot> slex if fun but I don't hope to ever ascend. My autism is just not high enough for that. 12:34 Whince-alot 12:35 WinCE-alot 12:35 microsoft! 12:35 <@Winsalot> no 12:36 wait 6502,100 12:38 <@Luxidream> aosdict: is everyone joining your clan required to be named after an artist 12:39 wait, people are already giving names to their clan members? does that mean registration is open and I'm once again the only one who missed it? 12:40 I'm not entirely sure I want to actually run a clan named that, I just want credit (and royalties of 10 zorkmids per use) for the name 12:41 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:3038 12:42 Quite possibly I won't have enough free time in november to play more than one or two games. 12:46 aosdict: Not yet. The end game in general has not been a high priority for me yet. 12:46 I've had bigger fish to fry. Such as Gehennom. 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2317 points, T:3942, killed by a bat 12:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:59 <[Demo]> what xp lvl for quest in dyna? 13:00 <@Winsalot> damn, this FIQhack run I have insane rng. Found 2 bags of holding, 4 spellbooks, AoLS, slow digestion, couple of enchanted rings, scroll of geno. And all before oracle. 13:02 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 13:04 The pit fiend turns into a zruty! 13:04 oh look a zruty 13:06 * K2 pets the zruty 13:06 <[Demo]> a what? 13:06 <@Luxidream> don't kill him 13:07 <@Luxidream> the zruty demigod watches over all zruty 13:09 jonadab: I took a crack at it once, but it created massive errors and crashed so I haven't tried again. 13:09 I also need to get better at prioritizing stuff. 13:11 @Luxidream does that make me the zruty antichrist or something 13:13 I believe Fourk may have been the first variant to xenocide zruty. 13:19 jonadab: how's 4.3.0.5 coming along? 13:20 -!- bsleep8 has joined #hardfought 13:20 Aⅼⅼah ⅰѕ dⲟinɡ 13:20 -!- bsleep8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:20 <[Demo]> how many slots for grand master martial arts? 13:24 one of those unicode characters didn't render for me so it came out as "Allah is ding" 13:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:30 <@Luxidream> what does ⲟ look like? 13:30 <[Demo]> o 13:37 allah is not doing, zruty is doing 13:39 heretic! 13:39 zruties are probably fleecy ♥ 13:40 <[Demo]> oh neat xorn finally ate a bear trap 13:42 -!- surrealpie20 has joined #hardfought 13:42 Aⅼⅼаһ іs dοiᥒg 13:42 ѕ∪ᥒ ⅰѕ nοt ԁഠiᥒɡ Aⅼlɑһ іѕ dഠiᥒg 13:42 -!- surrealpie20 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:44 <@Luxidream> surreal pie 13:44 <@Luxidream> pretty cool name 13:45 new fruitname 13:46 "My, that was a ten-dimensional pie!" 13:54 <[Demo]> why wont master kaen come to me? :( 13:54 <[Demo]> how to make him come? 13:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55 kick the air? 13:55 he won't be able to resist you showing off your superior martial prowess 13:55 play a horn 13:55 or a cursed whistle 13:56 <[Demo]> i am surrounded by boulders 13:56 <[Demo]> would that wake him? 13:56 throw something at him 13:57 dance 13:57 insult his mother 13:57 try to sell him car insurance 13:57 <[Demo]> hes out side of toss range 13:57 <[Demo]> when he gets in range im gonna fuck him up 13:57 do this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs 13:58 <[Demo]> would a tin whistle do it? 13:59 <[Demo]> nope 13:59 <[Demo]> wth 14:01 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:8121 14:03 <[Demo]> im out here whistling and causing explosions and this dumbass wont wake up 14:03 hahaha [Demo] the one man band with live pyrotechnics 14:04 tickle him 14:04 quaff a cursed potion of invisibility 14:04 <[Demo]> if i step out of my boulder fort and he wakes up im fucked 14:04 <[Demo]> what options do i have? 14:04 <[Demo]> other than that that will probably work? 14:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:07 <[Demo]> alright figured shit out 14:09 [Demo]: hi to you too <3 14:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:12 <[Demo]> hi 14:12 Hello [Demo], Welcome to #hardfought 14:13 K2: I mean to get back to that one of these weeks. The weather is starting to ease up a little, so maybe I can restart work on that soonish. 14:14 how does weather prevent you from coding? Do you exclusively do it outdoors? 14:17 hah 14:17 i was about to ask... 14:17 i have a mental image of jonadab leaned up against a tree in a nice park somewhere going 'yeah lets make blood puddings even nastier...' 14:17 now if the weather were getting worse, maybe that means you can't go out swimming or hiking or whatever as much 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 843 points, T:1974, killed by a wererat 14:17 w/ laptop of course 14:18 <@Tone> Quest nemeses are surprisingly heavy sleepers 14:18 <@Tone> Could poly into a mmf and use #monster 14:18 kaen goes right back to sleep real easy too 14:19 if he's that sleepy, you don't need the fort 14:19 aosdict: I don't think well in the late summer, due to not having slept well lately. 14:20 Happens every year. 14:21 <[Demo]> oh wow i got given some thirsty shurikens 14:22 <[Demo]> what a nice gift 14:23 got given? 14:23 heh 14:23 like i'm one to be the grammar police... 14:23 <@IceBox> get got when given, thirsty shirukens 14:24 haven will have 14:24 how did that go in the hitchhikers series... proper grammar and tense for time travellers 14:24 "wioll haven-be" 14:24 <[Demo]> its a really good gift 14:25 <[Demo]> im glad i got expert in shuriken now 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 512 points, T:745, killed by a small mimic 14:25 http://www.heretical.com/miscella/hhg-2.html 14:25 K2: What's wrong with "got given"? 14:25 it sounds wrong 14:26 I mean, aside from the fact that "got" is inherently informal register. 14:26 But this is IRC, so you don't exactly expect the prolix obnubilatory verbiage of higher academia here. 14:27 My objection would've been "shurikens" 14:28 'murica 14:28 <@Winsalot> Ok guys, If I dont ascend this FIQhack game you can make fun of me for the next 2 months. 14:29 Early wand of wishing? 14:29 <@Winsalot> nah, something even stronger 14:29 <@Winsalot> early spell of charm monster 14:29 Ah. 14:29 Technically, with an early wand of wishing, you could wish for a spellbook of charm monster. 14:29 Blessed, even. 14:37 <[Demo]> now some fire shuriken! 14:40 <[Demo]> not cool, stealth ones, you suck huan ti 14:41 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:41 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:42 decapitation shuriken would be teh pwnz0r (until the enemy picks it back up and throws it at you :P) 14:43 <[Demo]> not sure if those are a thing in dyna 14:43 <[Demo]> and dyna doesnt liek you multishot shurikens 14:44 wut 14:44 you mean you can't throw 3 in a turn at expert?! 14:45 <[Demo]> nope 14:45 wtf 14:45 can you multishot them at all? if not, that really sucks 14:45 <[Demo]> you can't 14:46 <[Demo]> I think you get a damage mult 14:46 slex has very simple multishot calculations: 1 shot base, +1 at skilled/expert/master/grand master respectively, +1 for every 3 points of enchantment on your sling/bow/crossbow/gun 14:46 <[Demo]> and they never mulch 14:46 What about shuriken of detonation? 14:47 <[Demo]> presumably if they are a thing they mulch 14:47 YASI: shuriken of aggravate monster, spawns OOD monsters at the spot where it impacts :D 14:48 But you can't enchant stacks of weapons in slex 14:48 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 14:49 you can, the success chance depends on how many there are in the stack 14:49 Directly proportional, or inversely? 14:50 uhh I think it's called inversely? enchanting a stack of 50 shuriken will have a 50% success chance, enchanting a 250 stack has 10% success chance etc. 14:50 yeah, that's inversely. 14:50 FlamingGuacamole: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-14 04:01 EDT: You cannot voluntarily polymorph into monsters of base level 30 or higher in slex, and regular uncontrolled polymorphs cannot net you such monsters either. Shoes do make very good polymorph forms because they can wear all equipment and even lay eggs, but they also are uncommon and thus harder to poly into. 14:50 EPI: monsters can generate with projectiles of create horde. Which create a horde of monsters when they hit/land. Whether they hit the target or not. 14:51 Yes, that's an inverse relationship. 14:51 More of A correlates with less of B. 14:51 Direct relationship is more of A correlates with more of B. 14:52 There's also the question of how the proportionality scales (linear, quadratic, exponential, logarithmic, etc.) 14:53 your words frighten and confuse my primitive brain 14:53 1-25 = 100% chance, everything above that is a 25 in X chance (for shuriken at least; daggers use a different calculation) 14:55 K2: Math gets way more frightening than that, trust me. 14:55 oh yeah 14:55 At some point do a YouTube search for reimann zeta function 14:55 *riemann 14:55 i before e! 14:55 So much fun is out there to be had. 14:55 sounds kinda kinky 14:56 'hey babe, lets try this riemann zeta function tonight' 14:56 K2: Now you're confusing it with knot theory. 14:56 lol 14:56 hahahahahaah 14:56 math humor 14:56 math is fun! 14:56 It is. 14:56 Well, if presented well, it is. 14:56 on a serious note: yes it is 14:57 i before e except after THIS IS MATH NOT ENGLISH 14:57 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:57 i play math games with mini-me 14:57 of course she's 6 14:57 so its stuff like 'figure out 17-9 in your head' 14:57 If presented badly, as "Ok, memorize this formula, and I will give you fifty sets of values to plug in, so you can arithmetic the result following exactly the same formula 50 times until you 'know' it", then math is terrible. 14:58 Hmm, fun math for that age group... hmm. 14:58 Have you seen hexaflexagons? 14:58 If not, look 'em up. 14:58 I think vihart has a video or three on them, on YouTube. 14:59 Let's see, what else... 14:59 Really basic geometry can be fun at that age. 15:00 And it's never too early to teach the basic idea of place value. 15:01 will look up hexaflexagons 15:01 And if you're doing 17-9, you're obviously at a point where you can introduce the concept of variables. Start with an empty box or blank space where a number is filled in. Then when comfortable with that, replace the blank space or box with a shape (circle, square, triangle, whatever) and write the answer as [shape] = answer 15:01 And boom, you've just introduced variables. 15:02 we've already touched on basic algebra 15:03 Ah, good. 15:03 2+x= what 15:03 err 15:03 2+x=4 whats x 15:03 Right. 15:03 Yeah. 15:03 and i'm working on fractions with her as well 15:03 That's extremely basic, but it's an _important_ extremely basic concept. 15:03 she gets halves 15:03 Ok, that's a start. 15:03 thirds and quarters, sorta 15:03 What's she do with 3 halves? 15:04 starts to guess 15:04 i have to remind her a lot to not guess and just tell me 'i dont know' if she doesnt know 15:04 You can demonstrate it with fruit. Like, cut two whatevers in half, and lay out three of the halves. 15:04 you can do simple substitution puzzles, letters > numbers or shapes > numbers 15:04 and figure out what the letters or shapes are 15:04 pizza works 15:05 can drill down to eighths 15:05 ooh 15:05 yeah tomorrow 15:05 Pizza works, up to a point, yes. 15:05 well pizza is fun 15:05 Or pie. 15:05 <@Winsalot> The death ray whizzes by you! holy shit 15:05 Everyone likes pie. 15:05 and you can eat the results! 15:05 :) 15:05 @Winsalot maybe find the stairs soon. 15:05 I made a yummy chicken pie today 15:06 and we have about 2/5 left 15:06 so that's tomorrow's lunch 15:06 but all this is way beyond what she's going to learn in 1st grade 15:06 <@Winsalot> I would prefer a way to oneshot that piece of shit and take away the wand 😃 15:06 yes, and? 15:06 Leftovers from supper make good lunch :-) 15:06 they dont do fractions in 1st grade do they? 15:06 K2: They didn't really when I was in school? Not 100% certain now. 15:06 what's wrong with knowing things you don't learn in school (yet)? 15:06 But there's no harm in being a bit ahead. 15:07 I think we didn't get fractions until 4th or 5th grade 15:07 <[Demo]> eyyy i got another aols 15:07 raisse: nothing at all. that's the point. i am exposing her to this stuff now 15:07 <[Demo]> why does dyna have soko prizes at mines end? 15:07 actually last year 15:07 I think I had fractions in third grade, but that was private school. 15:07 <[Demo]> oh wait cause fuck soko? 15:07 but I had a foster-sister who was already in high school and she taught me all kinds of exciting things like french and algebra 15:07 i know 1st graders dont do variables 15:08 no solving for x 15:08 Not letter variables, no. 15:08 but i tell mini-me she does that in real life all the time 15:08 We had blanks, when I was in first/second grade, didn't do letter variables till third. And that was private school. 15:08 hey guys? why doesn't hf have slashem even though it has slex? 15:09 because it has slex? 15:09 I didn't get the distributive law until *seventh* grade, which is way too late. That should be like the next thing you learn after multiplication, before you mess with division. 15:09 FlamingGuacamole: I think it's because of xlogfile and active maint and nagging. 15:10 But yes, vanilla Slash'EM would be a neat addition. 15:10 Because of its historical importance. 15:10 i'm not opposed to adding it 15:11 <@Luxidream> I feel like it’ll be really popular 15:11 but the lack of an xlogfile is not good. perhaps the combined experience here can figure it out and make it happen 15:11 <@Luxidream> given that it’s the only variant most new players are aware of due to the wiki 15:11 <[Demo]> oh hey i have a magic lamp 15:12 if shalsh'em had xlogfile/dumplog support, it could potentially make its way into junethack 15:12 *slash'em 15:12 i always flub that 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] FlamingGuacamole (Brd Clk Mal Neu), 85 points, T:148, killed by a fox 15:13 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:15 plus, which version do we host? there seems to be a few 15:16 the latest? 15:16 er... the latest one? 0.0.7E7F3 i believe? 15:17 yeah yeah the latest but the naming convention is a bit confusing 15:18 hah slashem.org still exists 15:20 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 15:20 anyone want to watch me play dnh? (if not, thats fine :P ) 15:23 also, does anyone know why i can't sacrifice? I'm a neutral automatic troubadour in dnh 15:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:23 sacrificing goblin corpses 15:24 10 turn old 15:26 K2: wow, going to host slashem? we should implement my hallu segfault panic crash bugfix then, because that fixes an *extremely* annoying bug in regular slashem where the save can be corrupted by hallucination. 15:27 bugfixes = 👍 15:28 without curses-slex it might still not have been found by today 15:29 !who 15:29 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Demo [dyn] introsp3ctive [dyn] ebx [fh] mightyquinn [sp] FlamingGuacamole [dnh] SkydiveMike [nh362] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:29 what's curses-slex? 15:29 Username checks out. 15:30 So does confused object detection not detect traps in Dynahack? 15:30 Because I've been looking everywhere for this damn quest portal and I can't find it even with confused object detection. 15:30 [hdf-us] [fh] bitcoin (ebx) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 13791 points, T:625, killed by a gnome king 15:31 FlamingGuacamole: Dropping those items while overtaxed cost you 6 turns each, you could drop multiple items at once with "D" 15:31 -!- ProzacElf_ has left #hardfought 15:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:31 And the fact that your dog ate the newt but, not the goblins before, might be a hint that they were too old 15:31 LarienTelrunya: K2 will only host slashem if you give it an xlogfile. 15:32 FlamingGuacamole: slex with the interface set to curses, OPTIONS=windowtype:curses does that 15:32 Really we should do xlog, livelog, dumplog, whereis, etc. 15:32 All the server things. 15:32 LarienTelrunya: Also, aren't you the official maintainer of slashem now? Endowed with the authority from the original developers to make bugfix and even other updates? 15:33 I should also resume my effort to do that stuff to Brass and get it building. 15:48 aosdict: uhh not really; we (Elronnd and me) host slashem on esm but we're not actually actively working on it 15:48 slex is the continued development :D 15:49 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:51 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:53 i killed a floating eye (i knew where my towel was), but im a clockwork automata :( 15:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:55 -!- Pinkbeas1 is now known as Pinkbeast 15:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] FlamingGuacamole (Brd Clk Fem Neu), 612 points, T:1363, killed by a giant rat 15:57 LarienTelrunya: Yeah but you officially could make updates or bugfixes to slash'em and still call it that, couldn't you? 15:58 aosdict: uhh I guess I could do that on a cloned slashem repo 16:07 LarienTelrunya: Here's what i got after a slex round (excerpt):You eaten 7 times. 16:07 You eaten food with animal by-products 7 times. 16:07 You eaten meat 7 times. 16:07 um... 16:07 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Mus Thu Fem Law), 3430 points, T:2663, killed by a monster (gnome lord) 16:08 You eaten by a ogre. 16:08 FlamingGuacamole: ah, that's a bug turned into a feature, I like that grammar error too much to fix it :P 16:09 also, you're playing? I want to watch! 16:09 just finished 16:09 how do i use tnnt mode?? 16:10 it used to be with 't' but apparently that got removed, and now only hardfought's inner circle knows how to start tnnt 16:10 :( 16:10 it's intentional, they are allowed to train train train all the time until november to increase their chances for victory while no one else can play 16:11 lame 16:11 <@Luxidream> It’s vanilla with achievements 16:11 (well that's my theory at least) 16:11 <@Luxidream> not much to train for no? 16:12 Luxidream: if that's all, why don't they let us play? 16:13 <@Luxidream> I assume it’ll be released when it’s closer to completion and they have a web site to track achievements 16:14 <@Luxidream> But in any case, it’s not a big deal 16:15 they should also put in a devnull mode 16:15 LarienTelrunya: By the way, there are a few "stack_too_big(obj)" checks in slex which don't do much except add abusability/tedium 16:15 PeterQ: which ones? 16:15 for example this one: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/blob/c25be92f9a5754e7555e38b2f27d471bd9a1752a/src/read.c#L3105 16:16 If I want to uncurse as many items as possible from a stack of items, I can just split the stack by naming them individually 16:17 yeah but then every single item has to pass the 1 in 5 chance 16:17 #worksasintended 16:17 As opposed to the stack having to pass a 1 in 5 chance and then the "stack_too_big"? 16:17 please tell me about the abusable ones :D 16:17 well yeah, that's how it works 16:18 Then there is 0 advantage to having them as stack unless you want to keep them cursed 16:19 Or unless you want the whole stack to retain the same BUC status 16:19 well yeah, but I still don't want you to be able to easily uncurse the entire stack, so definitely, #worksasintended 16:19 anyone got a copy of a devnull patch? site's broken 16:19 <@Tone> FlamingGuacamole: I think devnull nethack was hosted on hdf for a while after last year's tribute tournament, not sure if it's been taken down or or not 16:20 it has. 16:20 K2, any chance of getting it back? 16:23 LarienTelrunya: But in fact you only change the probabilities slightly, the average effect would still be the same either way 16:24 PeterQ: the effect would be that you'd be able to wield that entire stack of 500 cursed arrows and be guaranteed to uncurse them all in one go, which is not intended 16:24 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25 With a 20% chance 16:26 nah equipped items have a 100% chance 16:28 "You eaten by a ogre. You eaten by a ugre. You eaten by a groe. You eaten by a grue." 16:30 Oh, I missread that. So the chance that a random non-worn cursed item is uncursed by a blessed scroll is 1/25? 16:32 PeterQ: nope, 1/5 for a non-worn one, 1/1 for a worn one 16:38 Then you could exclude the "(sobj->blessed && !rn2(5))" from the "stack_too_big" check, the average effect would stay the same (20% uncursed), but the tedium of splitting stacks would be removed, and you still wouldn't be able to uncurse 500 arrows at once 16:40 (if they are wielded) 16:40 that's still different though, 20% chance to uncurse the entire stack versus an average amount of 20% stacks uncursed 16:45 But neither is game-breaking, and if you're playing normally you would probably rather have a high chance of some uncursed items, than a low chance of all items uncursed 16:46 well you do have a high chance of some uncursed items if you split the stack; I admit it's tedious but that's life 16:46 would be better if nethack had an easier way to split stacks 16:47 -!- oprypin12 has joined #hardfought 16:47 Allɑh ⅰs ԁoіng 16:47 sᥙᥒ iѕ not ⅾoinɡ Αⅼlɑһ ⅰѕ doinɡ 16:47 -!- oprypin12 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:49 <[Demo]> nethack is doing 16:53 And what I meant by "abusable" is that you have the same check at some (usually negative) effects, like cursing or corroding random inventory items 16:53 PeterQ: likewise intentional 16:54 it's annoying if a rust/whatever effect always hits the entire stack 16:54 So you can (for example) wield a high number of daggers, and hit corroding monsters without any effect 16:55 until you get unlucky and have the entire stack corrode 17:04 amy, please don't cast aspersions on the tnnt dev team 17:04 at the moment we're simply testing the commits that you can easily see if you just lurk in #tnnt 17:04 there's nothing to practice so we do not get any advantage 17:05 hothraxxa: so tnnt isn't actually ready yet? 17:05 not even close 17:07 there's a lot of effort being put into developing a fun tournament that should provide something for both advanced and new players 17:07 even novices should be able to contribute to the clan 17:07 LarienTelrunya: Do you think the game would run if I replaced every "issoviet" by "rn(2)"? 17:07 so it's a bit unfair to impugn us like that 17:08 <[Demo]> tnnt is fake 17:08 PeterQ: lol that would probably break things spectacularly :P 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 128 points, T:455, killed by a water demon 17:09 <[Demo]> I don't know what I mean by fake but get aspirated 17:09 hothraxxa: well it's just what it seemed like to me, considering I was able to play it via 't' once 17:11 right now it's strictly vanilla 17:11 well hdf touches to vanilla 17:11 but hey, go look at the commits 17:11 don't take my word for it 17:12 <[Demo]> rebase slex on 3.6.2 and call it hdf and use it for tnnt 17:12 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a cobra, on T:14351 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha) murdered Sirius, his faithful little dog, on T:317 17:12 * hothraxxa teleports demo onto a nasty trap 17:14 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 21700 points, T:14515, killed by a leocrotta 17:17 <@Winsalot> @mtf Hey, maybe you know if monk's quest has been changed in FIQhack in any way? 17:17 <@mtf> hmm, I don't remember specifically... I think he has some different spells that he casts 17:18 <@mtf> should be info on the fiqhack wiki page though 17:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:23 -!- tuxuser7 has joined #hardfought 17:24 Allaһ іs doinɡ 17:24 -!- tuxuser7 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 17:24 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 17:24 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 17:24 Sigyn has learned 17:27 <[Demo]> can I join the spambots? 17:27 <[Demo]> nethack is not doing 17:27 <[Demo]> tnnt is doing 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 497 points, T:2153, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse, while helpless 17:32 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:34 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2491 points, T:3800, killed by a white unicorn 17:35 <@Winsalot> the peaceful Master Kaen is that supposted to happen? 17:39 he won't stay like that 17:39 just means he hasn't noticed you yet 17:40 <@Winsalot> Nope, he had noticed me, but I used charm monster on him 😉 17:40 oh. well then 17:40 <[Demo]> I had to hop out of my fort and zap him 17:40 <[Demo]> and I almost died 17:40 he's really a nice guy when you get to know him 17:40 and no, i don't think that is supposed to happen 17:41 <[Demo]> get fiqd 17:42 he's not your friend any more 17:43 <[Demo]> in my game I threw shurikens and explosive crossbow bolts at him til he died 17:44 last time i saw him i just zapped him with a wand of sleep. he was a pushover 17:45 <[Demo]> we can't all afford luxuries like that 17:49 Try to get him tame 17:54 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 964 points, T:1884, killed by a sharpened bamboo stick 18:27 <@rikersan> demo: hah, this is why dnh is better 18:27 <@rikersan> in dnh you can just 2wep punch him and he dies 18:33 !tell LarienTelrunya the tnnt build is in early alpha stage and there's a lot of testing left to do, which is why it's closed to everyone except *the people who are actually working on it*. as we get closer to launch, we'll open it up for more people to test. if you continue to spread false theories about some supposed inner circle training to beat everyone else, i'll bar you from speaking 18:33 Will do, K2! 18:33 in this channel. stop with your crazy shit 18:36 want to practice for the nov tourney? play vanilla 18:37 bbq time, be back later 18:39 Why vanilla specifically? 18:44 This is NOT a variant tournament. 18:45 While not trying to *be* devnull, it's filling the same niche. 18:45 Which is, more or less vanilla. 18:46 3.4.3 as well or just 3.6.2? 18:47 <@rikersan> just 1 version, based off 3.6.2 18:47 <@rikersan> afaict 18:47 Ok 18:59 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:03 [hdf-us] [fh] bitcoin (ebx) (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 29688 points, T:1345, killed by a killer bee 19:10 the whole reason devnull was scrapped was because 3.6.0 came out and the organizer didn't want to keep going 19:17 <[Demo]> dnh is a broken piece of shit ndnh doesnt even try to make but instead shits upon it further 19:20 makes me want to play dnh 19:20 <[Demo]> i love dnh 19:21 <[Demo]> i also love gas station hamburgers 19:21 hah hah 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4505 points, T:9202, killed by a warhorse 19:38 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:40 -!- mycroft18 has joined #hardfought 19:40 Aⅼlаһ іs dഠiᥒg 19:40 -!- mycroft18 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:41 <@rikersan> is this the new spambot? 19:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:49 old spam type 20:01 <[Demo]> no this is the new desktop thread 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:4972 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:19294 20:19 -!- tacco| has quit [] 20:22 -!- greqrg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1166 points, T:1610, killed by a giant bat 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4384 points, T:2869, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] introsp3ctive (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 35785 points, T:31861, killed by an Olog-hai 21:13 very disappointed to lose that one 21:18 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 21:19 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 21:26 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:35 K2: Halp my game crashed 21:35 There wasn't an error message, the screen just went all funky and then exited. 21:39 doing anything interesting at the time? 21:39 I was playing sokoban and moved a boulder 21:47 Is it ok to ping Tangles for game recovers since he's listed as an admin too 21:47 <@rikersan> yes 21:51 I've connected to hdf and tried to resume my game three times already before realizing why I can't 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 828 points, T:3788, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 22:38 YANI: Ghosts have a reusable attack which scares you to death and paralyzes you. Maybe turn their physical touch attack into a paralyze attack. 22:43 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 22:55 PavelB what were you playing and on which server? 22:55 I dunno, you shouldn't ought to get freaked out over and over again by a ghost 22:56 oh6: Well, it works that way for shades, just with less flavor. 22:56 K2: xnh, us 22:56 "AAAA a ghost" ... "AAAA still a ghost" ... "AAAA still still a ghost" etc. 22:56 ok 22:56 Okay, guys, new rule: If you're going to publish software on your own website, that's grand, but don't use a font that makes it difficult to distinguish the version numbers between releases. 22:56 PavelB I can recover your game 22:57 there's also a coredump I can run a backtrace on and provide to aosdict 22:57 any tasty crash details? 22:57 oh good 22:58 Awesome 22:58 game recovered 22:58 Thanks 22:59 oh6: further YANI: ghost AI makes them turn invisible (at will) and sneak up on you. When they get adjacent, they turn visible and scare-paralyze you. 22:59 This would be negated by see invisible since you would see them coming. 23:00 Noo I get reset to the start of the sokoban level I was almost done 23:00 aosdict - http://termbin.com/gd0m 23:00 it's spelled "ad0m" 23:00 :) 23:00 * PavelB decides not to play lagoban at the moment 23:02 PavelB: did you have any corpses in containers or something? 23:02 You know what I think happened? A corpse tried to turn into an F while under a rock. 23:02 But no, no corpses in containers 23:03 Did have a lizard corpse in open inventory 23:03 yeah but those don't ever rot 23:03 Hmm, ideally the corpse could still turn into an F while under the rock, but it's sensible to say it won't go moldy if it is. 23:04 There was also a corpse on a hole I pushed a rock onto and plugged 23:04 Anyway, the crash is from slash'em code that doesn't check mtmp. 23:05 -!- deadnoob has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06 So you think you have a fix? 23:07 pushed 23:07 K2: fix pushed 23:07 Awesome 23:08 ok 23:08 PavelB save your game please 23:09 Already did 23:09 I'm on the bus 23:09 ok you can go back in 23:09 Great 23:10 xNetHack updated (all servers) 23:12 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 23:15 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 23:26 -!- mIRC has joined #hardfought 23:26 Aⅼⅼаh іs ⅾoⅰᥒg 23:26 -!- mIRC has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 23:28 how on earth was the mIRC nick not taken 23:28 -!- PavelB is now known as mIRC 23:29 -!- mIRC is now known as PavelB 23:29 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:35 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 23:39 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:55 <[Demo]> mIRC is doing