00:10 paxed added the spiders actively spinning webs feature to vanilla. hmm. 00:11 I hope they add the corresponding change that lets you forcefight webs to cut through them, because that's a rather important complementary feature to avoid frustration 00:16 <@Luxidream> well it looks like I won't be touching vanilla for a while then 00:17 man 00:17 i have that insane game i still have to descend gehenomon 00:17 @Luxidream the behavior is different and less common than in xnh 00:17 next time I merge I'll probably replace my code with vanilla 00:18 but when everything goes perfectly, my perfection kkicks in 00:19 <@Luxidream> hope so. I'd rather not have to name sting just to get anywhere in the game 00:22 in the vanilla implementation a spider can no longer spin a web for 4d4 turns after spinning one; it also is less likely to spin one where there are no adjacent supporting walls 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 569 points, T:1162, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:47 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:50 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 00:50 -!- dell30 has quit [Client Quit] 00:58 <@Luxidream> "Ah, Binaural Beats By Dre-san, it is good to see you again." 00:59 <@Luxidream> that's dre-sensei to you :> 00:59 <@Luxidream> :<* 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 2200 points, T:2522, killed by a wolf 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 885 points, T:1510, killed by a little dog 01:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 154 points, T:371, killed by a dagger 02:37 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:57 !who 02:57 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh4] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 02:58 Binaural Bea the Lawful Daimyo 03:00 good thing fiqhack can say name : Binaural Beats By Dre 03:00 in keyboard commands from the watch screen 03:00 it seems to be more interactive that way 03:03 well, you can't kill the mailer daemon anymore in fiqhack 03:04 <@Luxidream> I am not in FIQhack 03:04 <@Luxidream> this is vanilla nethack4 03:04 yeah, sorry, talking about the wrong variant 03:04 thought it was fiqhack because both have some sort of meta interface 03:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23 <@Luxidream> whoops forgot the amulet 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] Binaural Beats By Dre (Luxidream) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 279254 points, T:46781, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-09-09%2007%3A37%3A48%2C%20Binaural%20Beats%20By%20Dre-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 04:01 <@bugsniper> @Winsalot slex is turning you into losesalot 04:01 <@bugsniper> still enjoying it? 04:06 <@Winsalot> haha 04:08 <@Winsalot> yeah, slex is great 😃 04:08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/488259408086695940/kms.jpg 04:09 :c 04:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:40 -!- Foxburr has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- Crawlwyvern has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- Foxburr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:43 -!- Crawlwyvern is now known as Crawldragon 04:52 lol, that's a nice combination of starting rings: poly control and protection from shape changers 04:53 "nobody is going to change shape here unless I say so!" 05:00 Possibly grumpy because his girlfriend polymorphed into a nymph and split for a guy with more money 05:02 ... who turned out to be a doppelganger. 05:02 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:50 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 05:52 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 06:11 Poes eats a dwarf corpse. It just misses! 06:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 08:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:45327 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46050 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46051 09:04 [hdf-us] [fh] ebx (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 34047 points, T:2472, killed by a water moccasin 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:46461 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46748 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:46787 09:30 [hdf-us] [fh] ebx (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 24559 points, T:1544, killed by a dwarf 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class c, on T:47274 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class P, on T:47274 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:47275 09:45 [hdf-us] [fh] ebx (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 14744 points, T:611, killed by a gnome lord 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class T, on T:48473 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided red dragon, on T:48474 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided red naga, on T:48474 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6651 points, T:6942, killed by a Grey-elf, while sleeping 09:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:14 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:54802 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 584 points, T:1015, killed by a bolt of fire 10:20 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I feel like arti water walking boots should be lava-proof, RIP water flowers 2018-2018 10:20 Will do, @rikersan! 10:23 YANI for fiqhack/other object properties variants: steal the "frost walker" property from minecraft. it freezes water to ice and lava to solid floor in a 1-radius around the player 10:24 Only valid on boots of course. 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5092 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10989 points, T:5440, quit 10:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:58 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 11:00 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:30 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:47 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Ang Mal Law), 5503 points, T:3139, quit 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided silver dragon, on T:61486 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided gray dragon, on T:61487 11:59 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:06 aosdict: Artifact water-walking boots? 12:07 Probably not powerful enough to be an artifact. 12:07 artifact WW boots should *also* give speed 12:09 And you can invoke them to toggle levitation? 12:10 dnh has artifact WW boots, and they were part of the ascencion kit in both of my ascencions 12:11 PavelB: that would be cool! 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:67318 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Val Ang Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:13649 12:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:26 -!- PeterQ has left #hardfought 12:28 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 12:41 <@kritixilithos> call the artifact "Jesus's feet" 12:50 !who 12:50 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] shadowsapex [dnh] brandywine [nh362] elron [nh362] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:76474 13:16 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:19 PeterQ: what were you doing when you got that bug? 13:23 Opening the inventory 13:23 It happened twice 13:23 can you pin down the specific item that causes it? 13:24 it's a kind of buffer overflow, maybe something has an exceedingly long name? 13:25 apparently just being in inventory doesn't cause it, are you accessing the information for one of the items? 13:26 No. It crashed directly after opening the inventory. And one of the items has a pretty long name, the name is cut off in my terminal 13:26 "K - an uncursed very rusty very corroded +1 enchanted (of infravision) mage plate mail (being worn) {200" 13:27 hmm... so maybe it's because all the stuff in your inventory is being put in a single buffer that is being overflowed 13:27 Yeah, I think that items is it 13:27 so the "being worn" of that plate mail seems to be overflowing it? 13:27 i.e. it only crashes if you're wearing it, right? 13:27 Yeah, if I don't wear it, it doesn't crash 13:28 And it crashes only every second time I open the inventory or something? 13:28 and if you don't wear it, it doesn't crash at all? 13:29 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:29 I would have thought that slex had increased all the various buffer sizes to at least 1 MB by now, just to be safe. 13:29 that item's name is 105 characters in name, I wonder whether there's a buffer that is smaller than 105 13:32 What are the recommended terminal dimensions for SLEX again? 13:32 man how the hell am I supposed to find out which specific buffer is being overflowed there 13:32 80x25 13:32 you could try to use those dimensions and see whether the bug still occurs 13:33 that could help me track down the cause 13:34 !who 13:34 bouquet: [hdf-us] shadowsapex [dnh] brandywine [nh362] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 13:34 Haha, it doesn't 13:34 and with 106x27 it does? 13:36 Yeah, apparently 13:37 Maybe K2 has some dumplogs 13:37 this type of crash almost never produces meaningful dumplogs, although I guess it would be worth a shot 13:39 let_to_name() looks suspicious to me 13:42 In which file is that function defined? 13:43 invent.c 13:43 also there's some weirdness, apparently the item names are being cut off even if the terminal is very big?! 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10332 13:45 ... or not 13:45 man this is weird as heck 13:45 !lastgame BSOD2 13:45 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BSOD2/slex/dumplog/1521311590.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BSOD2/slex/dumplog/1522267232.slex.txt 13:45 The inventory never uses the last column apparently 13:46 And not the first one either, so a 105 character item name is cut off in a 106 character terminal 13:47 !lastgame BSOD2 13:47 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BSOD2/slex/dumplog/1521311590.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BSOD2/slex/dumplog/1536515167.slex.txt 13:47 b - a heavily cursed +10 enchanted (of Team Nastytrap) pair of hippie heels named wejkrtjwektkjwezjiowezweuioziwuoeziuoweziwezweuizweuioziuowezu (being worn) {5} 13:47 ^^ that didn't crash for me on a 182x39 terminal 13:48 and I mean, your very long item name would also be cut off on 80x25, yet it doesn't crash there... 13:48 Try a 163/162/161x.. 13:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:49 I'd guess it's off-by one (or two) error. The game recognizes that the terminal is big enough to show the name, but does not consider the two unused columns 13:50 doesn't crash on 163x35 either 13:54 !tell K2 PeterQ got an "invalid next size (fast)" in slex. I've pushed a fix that may or may not remove the bug (can't reproduce it myself); can you update? sorry :) 13:54 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 13:54 PeterQ: can you try with a 90x27 terminal (those exact dimensions)? I want to test a theory 13:54 maybe the 2048 buffer is being overflowed 13:56 Ok, I just tried 106x24 and 105x14. It crashes only for the former 13:57 105x14??? 13:57 or do you mean 105x24? 13:58 x24, my bad 13:58 can you try something like 108x24? 13:58 i.e. a bit bigger than 106? 14:03 It only crashes for 106x.. :) 14:04 okay, that's very important information, thanks 14:04 unfortunately I still don't know how to fix this, because there's probably several buffers involved 14:04 does 106x also crash if you drop that saber? 14:05 okay so it's indeed that armor 14:05 probably the enchantment part is at fault 14:06 ah, doname in objnam.c has some buffers that might be overflowing there 14:06 char prefix[PREFIX] makes a buffer that is exactly PREFIX in size, right? 14:06 and if that is overflowed, crash? 14:07 No, that depends 14:07 It might crash or might not 14:07 PREFIX is defined to be 80 14:07 that might be too little 14:07 "very rusty thoroughly corroded enchanted (of a very long enchantment name)" might overflow that 14:08 "an uncursed greased partly eaten guardian naga hatchling" seems to be one of the longest prefixes in vanilla (for a corpse) 14:08 That's 74 characters 14:08 "an uncursed very rusty very corroded +1 enchanted (of infravision)" 14:08 yeah that's too long 14:08 okay we have found the culprit I think, many thanks for the help :) 14:09 nevermind, it's 66 characters 14:11 here's something you don't see every day "You see here a statue of an Archon named PavelB." 14:11 this looks like a bones level but there's no ghost around. 14:11 Polyinit! 14:12 oh! I thought aosdict wasn't going to add that to xnh? 14:12 alright pushed a commit that should hopefully really fix it 14:12 Well he did 14:12 And made it so you can polyinit as normally illegal polyself forms 14:12 cool. I'm going to smash your statue. 14:13 Np 14:13 PeterQ: I guess the best course of action would be to wait for K2 to apply that fix and then test with 106x again to see whether it really fixed the crash, sorry 14:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:13 If you get an amulet it's poison resistance 14:13 cool. Already have the intrinsic. 14:13 LarienTelrunya: Yeah, I'll try again later 14:14 I'm chaotic so I can't really use either of the weapons, though mjolly might be good since I'm a priest. 14:14 * Pinkbeast blinks at mjolly 14:14 but I'm close to my quest arti so I'll probably train for that instead. 14:14 <@Luxidream> aosdict: shouldn’t polyinit not leave bones 14:15 Come to think of it, ever since poison instadeath was removed poison resistance became kinda useless 14:15 The intrinsic is really easy and safe to get 14:15 @Luxidream I hadn't considered polyinit not leaving bones, though I'm intrigued by how it could be unbalancing? 14:16 but you can't unihorn to fix lost str so it's important in that regard. 14:16 Oh yeah true 14:17 <@Tone> There might be some potential for griefing there 14:17 <@Tone> Leaving baby dragons on a level or something 14:18 OK yeah 14:19 <@Luxidream> Bad player could get really far with mad 14:19 <@Luxidream> mmf 14:19 -!- PeterQ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:19 <@Luxidream> leave early bones for themselves 14:19 <@Luxidream> win the game easily 14:21 After repeatedly trying to do this locally I can confirm this does not work to win the game easily 14:23 under what circumstance might I use a scroll of water? I can't think of anything besides maybe some #dipping squares if I have water walking. 14:23 if you want to drown stuff? 14:23 since I'm not as mean as bhaak, it could work well when you're surrounded 14:23 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 14:23 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: buff starting attributes of psion pls T_T 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] shadowsapex (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 42915 points, T:7813, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 14:24 !tell K2 xnh updates ahoy 14:24 Will do, aosdict! 14:24 @Winsalot: psions are supposed to be like that; maybe try a trapper or ironman psion, those races have good HP growth IIRC 14:24 bouquet: still more useful than amnesia 14:25 aosdict: it works well if your scroll is blessed. 14:25 in unnethack 14:25 <@shadowsapex> what if I just need to forget my pain 14:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:25 <@Winsalot> Idk, it's not so much about hp growth, but with starting 3-7 str and dex its damage is so weak that any shitter with AC <5 fucks me up. 14:25 less well, if it's cursed. but IIRC I made sure that the player can't drown just due to be surrounded by water 14:25 <@Winsalot> Otherwise I really enjoy psions 14:26 when I picked through those commits, the player could initially drown, then it was fixed later 14:26 <@Winsalot> Gonna spam this role until FIQ fixes my segfault 😃 14:26 I think the player could still drown, if the not-turned-to-water square(s) were all occupied by monsters. 14:27 dinosaur race starts with extra strength I think, might be a good choice for psion then 14:27 aosdict: despite the propaganda, the devteam doesn't always think of everything at first 14:27 aosdict: also the usual drowning scenarios apply. like having too much gear you can't drop 14:28 !who 14:28 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Nobbs [nh343] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 14:28 bhaak: there's also the corollary "The DevTeam Thinks Of Some Things But Decides They're Edge Cases Or Not Worth Implementing And Leaves A Comment Instead" :-) 14:29 less often than one might think :) 14:29 TDTTOSTBDTECONWIALACI. rolls right off the tongue 14:31 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: ok, and if my race says that I'm very slow (6) but my role says that im normal speed (12), then how fast I really am? 14:32 @Winsalot: your speed is that of the role monster 14:32 some races, e.g. snail, reduce your speed but I'd be surprised if dinosaur was one of them 14:35 bhaak: in any case, I'm not super attached to scrolls of water, but it was easier to do that than delete the object entirely 14:35 also I would like a scroll of air at some point 14:35 sporkhack has wands of wind 14:38 since it also added gauntlets of force, I assume they shove stuff? 14:38 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:38 <@Luxidream> If there’s a scroll of every element they should have enhanced effects when read on their respective planes 14:39 I'll let you write the patch for that. 14:40 <@Luxidream> smop? 14:40 yeah, it pushes stuff and monsters around 14:40 scroll of air is already a YANI, but to add to it: if you read it on the Plane of Water it either creates a new air bubble if you're not in one or permanently expands the one you're in. A scroll of water will collapse your bubble to 1 space. 14:40 <@Winsalot> Seems like the dinosaur role was the answer all along 😃 14:40 <@Winsalot> race* 14:41 <@Winsalot> Though I feel like it has unusually low int and wis for a psion 14:41 <@Winsalot> which is really unfortunate 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:18578 14:42 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:42 dinosaur just has a flat +5 STR; seems you got unlucky with the remaining rolls 14:42 <@Luxidream> what are your opinions on the luckstone livelog? 14:42 I'll roll a dinosaur psion now to see what stats I get 14:43 <@Luxidream> it provides out of game benefit 14:43 St12 Dx4 Co4 In13 Wi16 Ch12 14:43 <@Luxidream> not sure I agree with it 14:45 <@Winsalot> not that bad 14:45 <@Winsalot> not like this.... 14:45 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/488419669670363156/not_like_this_0909.png 14:46 <@Winsalot> Now I need to go back to find that quest 14:47 wow you were banished? 14:48 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 14:48 @Luxidream who are you talking to 14:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:04 <@Winsalot> yup, banished 😦 15:04 <@Winsalot> Also, what's better , sexy flats or high heels? 15:04 <@Winsalot> sexy flats is new I presume? 15:05 -!- jared55 has joined #hardfought 15:06 yes; as a dinosaur you need to wear heels though 15:06 <@Winsalot> ok, it wasn;t hard to decide. 15:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/488424949896314891/this_is_just_weird.png 15:06 <@Winsalot> what's the lore behind this? 15:07 just a downside ;) 15:07 sexy flats skill would make stun and dimness time out more quickly 15:12 "as a dinosaur you need to wear heels". what? 15:12 -!- jared55 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:13 <@Winsalot> yeah, I also want to know 15:13 I guess... some dinosaurs are digitigrade? 15:13 <@Theyflower> Have you ever seen a dinosaur wearing flat shors 15:13 :D 15:13 <@Theyflower> Actually I think it makes sense one sec let me find pictures of velociraptor foot 15:13 the snail race also has to wear heels btw :P 15:15 <@Theyflower> Picture of dude from history channel saying aliens but instead he is saying slex 15:17 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zMnQ7vwp/image.png 15:18 <@Theyflower> That 15:19 ha, beat me to it 15:19 * aosdict saves this because reasons 15:19 -!- jared55 has joined #hardfought 15:19 <@Luxidream> !who 15:19 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] kelvin [dyn] Jared55 [fh] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 15:20 <@Luxidream> aosdict: no one in particular 15:20 <@Luxidream> also some top secret tnnt testing going on? 15:21 ? 15:21 heh, I know how to play tnnt :P 15:26 [hdf-us] [fh] Jared (Jared55) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 38381 points, T:2391, killed by a gargoyle 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:21712 15:30 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 15:30 <@Luxidream> well, I can't wait to find out on october 31 =/ 15:32 LarienTelrunya: no you dont 15:32 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-09 13:54 EDT: PeterQ got an "invalid next size (fast)" in slex. I've pushed a fix that may or may not remove the bug (can't reproduce it myself); can you update? sorry :) 15:32 K2: Message from aosdict at 2018-09-09 14:24 EDT: xnh updates ahoy 15:33 ? 15:33 oh you removed the secret tnnt hotkey? 15:36 All - if anyone needs to reset their password on dgl, please direct them here - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/password-reset/ 15:36 and you can get to it via the nethack menu on the website 15:36 i should make a beholder command too... 15:38 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:39 xNetHack updated (all servers) 15:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:30440 15:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [fh] Jared (Jared55) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 15000 points, T:367, killed by a boulder 15:41 <@Winsalot> K2: Hey, have you sent FIQ my save today? 15:41 <@Winsalot> or yesterday 15:41 <@Winsalot> I dont remember 😃 15:42 no... i didnt see a request 15:42 must have missed that 15:42 pays to use !tell ;) 15:42 -!- jared55 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 15:44 K2: have you reset the password of a certain inflammable bowl of avocado paste yet 15:44 yesterday 15:45 he knows 15:51 <@Winsalot> Ok, please send my (winsalot) last fiqhack save from hdf-eu to FIQ 😃 15:52 aosdict: there's some concerning garbage spewing out in my game on hdf-us right now in case you want to peek at it. 15:52 right after I spoke to my quest guy. 15:52 uhhhhhh 15:52 @Winsalot ok 15:53 <@Winsalot> thanks 15:53 is this like his passive speech? 15:53 hmm 15:53 i updated xnh while bouquet was playing 15:53 dunno. But I don't want to have a crash again so I felt like bringing it to your attention 15:53 bouquet i would save and log back in 15:53 well, save and restore. don't think logging out is necessary 15:54 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54 bouquet i would save and log back in 15:54 done! Just wanted to mention it. 15:54 but yes I edited quest.txt in the most recent batch of commits, stands to reason the quest data would be corrupted by it 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:24445 16:00 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 332 points, T:780, killed by a hobbit 16:01 <@Winsalot> !tell FIQ K2 should have sent you my save. Please take a look whenever you can 😃 16:01 Will do, @Winsalot! 16:02 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 16:02 thanks K2! 16:02 @Winsalot - which save? 16:02 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 16:03 PeterQ: K2 has updated slex, can you see whether the u 16:03 bug persists? 16:03 PeterQ: please try with 106x 16:04 <@Winsalot> K2: the one where character is called ThisTimeIWin. it's on top of my saves 16:05 <@Winsalot> │ a - ThisTimeIWin Mon-hum-mal-cha Exp:9, 7661 turns, on Mines:9 │ 16:06 LarienTelrunya: still there 16:06 gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 16:06 it must be some other buffer then! 16:07 K2: can you check whether there's a core dump from slex? maybe it gives a backtrace 16:07 hdf-eu that is 16:07 It wouldn't really make sense if it was just the prefix buffer, because it doesn't occur when "(being worn)" is missing 16:07 and that's in the postfix 16:08 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 189 points, T:730, killed by a goblin 16:11 well shit 16:11 no idea how it's caused then, but for now I'd advise you to use a different terminal size 16:11 I'll hope that I can find the cause eventually 16:13 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Ang Mal Law), 3573 points, T:2725, petrified by an asphynx 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 166 points, T:711, killed by a wand 16:17 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 16:18 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 16:18 !tell FIQ please see pm 16:18 Will do, K2! 16:19 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 16:20 LarienTelrunya: The error doesn't say much: https://imgur.com/a/jHN1fUh 16:21 PeterQ: yeah, sadly 16:21 LarienTelrunya - http://termbin.com/187s 16:21 this is why slexhack4 needs to be a thing, so you can replay stuff 16:22 wow that dumplog is actually useful, thanks 16:22 most of the time that type of crash doesn't give the actual line in the slex code where the crash occurred 16:23 a SIGABRT apparently... been a while that I had one of those 16:24 its because the CFLAG switch was changed from your default 16:24 during compile 16:25 *CFLAGS 16:25 oh that's the O/O2 difference? 16:25 yup 16:25 ah :) 16:25 arguably, slex is the one variant for which O2 or O3 might be warranted in terms of sheer binary size though. 16:26 K2: how large is the slex binary 16:27 does O2 or O3 anything to the size if the size is mostly due to data? 16:28 my slex 2.2.2 binary is 41 MB unstripped, stripped 20MB 16:29 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh362] jmcunx (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 232 points, T:970, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 16:33 aosdict: 37.5 MB 16:34 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 16:43 FlamingGuacamole: if you forget your password again - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/password-reset/ 16:43 okay so the slex crash happened in this line: if (temp->str) free((void *)temp->str); 16:43 K2: thx 16:43 your ordeal made me set that up ;) 16:46 also, why is the login page for the msgboard still up if you can't post? 16:47 LarienTelrunya: temp being NULL? 16:47 did I already tell you my opinion of braceless ifs? 16:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:47 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Che Asg Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:385 16:47 would also be interested in my opinion on stuffing all in one line? 16:47 what is your opinion of braceless ifs 16:48 first wish ever! yay 16:48 bhaak: actually it is inside an "while ((temp = cw->mlist) != 0) 16:48 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:48 FlamingGuacamole - because one may want to upload a picture, or send a private message 16:48 aosdict: I shoot any working buddy who leaves them off 16:48 the number of bot registrations I was receiving was outnumbering posts by a very wide margin 16:48 K2: didnt know you could do that 16:49 bhaak: if that's the case then can you please fix some of the many many braceless ifs in vanilla :) 16:49 wouldn't want you to have to murder most of the devteam 16:49 sadly I can't fix this quickly though because I still don't know how it's caused exactly 16:49 and even more sadly I have to go to sleep soon :( 16:50 a long time ago (way before i started hosting nethack) the forums were fairly busy 16:50 miss it :/ 16:50 aosdict: wasn't there just one responsible for the ugly reindentation and that guy isn't on the devteam anymore 16:50 but thats ok 16:50 "responsible" as in "doing it". 16:50 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:50 LarienTelrunya: do "Twinrova's Essence" darts do anything special? 16:50 braceless ifs are still allowed by the coding guidelines :-( 16:51 FlamingGuacamole: oh, you probably don't know about in-game item descriptions yet; if you hit an item's corresponding letter in main inventory view, you'll get a description, including telling you whether something is a real artifact or not (these are a fake one) 16:51 eesh 16:51 fake artifacts are often highly enchanted, but careful, the enchantment can be positive or negative and they can be cursed 16:52 ok. thanks for the tip, the nethackwiki doesn't cover half this stuff (including all those cloaks in object.c) 16:52 work set up a linter to check for a bunch of things, I'd hate to go back to the previous state of ffairs 16:52 LarienTelrunya: are Kotake and Koume monsters in slex 16:53 aosdict: no, I have no idea what they're supposed to be?! 16:53 FlamingGuacamole: did you see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Hints ? 16:53 well if you have Twinrova (or her essence)... 16:53 LarienTelrunya: By the way, I saw on the enlightenment screen that I am taking double damage. What can cause this? 16:54 PeterQ: it's a nasty trap effect 16:54 anyway, really gotta sleep now; will be back tomorrow after my dentist appointment *shiver* 16:54 i actually read all of User:BSOD/Hints today, didn't see anything that wasn't obvious/trivial 16:54 LarienTelrunya: basically, in ocarina of time, they are these two twin haggy witches who have fire and ice powers, and then they fuse into Twinrova for a boss fight 16:55 aosdict: ah, well I never played that and got the twinrova name from a Diablo 2 mod I think 16:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: sleep-bundle-wing!] 17:03 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 17:05 [hdf-us] [slex] FlamingGuacamole (Che Asg Mal Cha), 700 points, T:573, killed by a shotgun shell 17:06 note to self: even just leaving with unpaid items will summon Kops 17:06 <@Luxidream> how is "leaving with unpaid items" any different from stealing 17:06