00:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14259 00:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Death, on T:43028 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Death, on T:43054 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Death, on T:43076 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:43106 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:43109 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:43136 00:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:43144 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Fem Law), 1938398 points, T:43183, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/splicehack/dumplog/1536278216.splice.txt 00:12 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp potion of reflection shouldn't persist after death and revivification 00:12 Will do, @Luxidream! 00:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given Mjollnir, on T:16377 00:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:26 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 44875 points, T:19261, killed by an invisible stalker 00:42 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 16077 points, T:8583, killed by an ettin zombie 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 291 points, T:582, killed by an elven dagger 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:66, killed by a jackal 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2081 points, T:1063, killed by a bolt of cold 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1888 points, T:2439, killed by a giant ant 02:29 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07 argh I trapped a coaligned unicorn between a boulder and the pits on soko1 03:07 apparently it can't squeeze, I thought monsters could do that 03:08 You kill it! You feel guilty... You kill it! 03:09 well, that puts my luck and alignment well in the red 03:09 (the other "it" was a peaceful orc shaman) 03:09 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 03:30 @Winsalot: *flight bundle* ♥ 03:34 !who 03:34 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] PeterQ [slex] winsalot [slex] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 03:34 attack of the slex brigade! :D 03:37 LarienTelrunya: can you send me a link to the elven name generator you used to make your name? A google search reveals that there are thousands of these. 03:37 Oh, millions, darling. 03:37 There are probably millions dedicated to fantasy worlds alone. 03:37 Hell, I wrote a name generator the other day. 03:38 introsp3ctive: http://chriswetherell.com/elf (it must have been changed though, because if I enter "Amy Bluescreen" now I get something else) 03:38 "Larien Isilrá", apparently 03:38 This gives me two names 03:38 Ilúvënis Coamenel or Golradir Coamenel 03:39 Elessar Anwarünya 03:39 yeah the first is female I think and the other one is male, because it doesn't automatically know what the original name's gender is 03:40 my screen name gives me Haldamir Tinúviel 03:40 Salad McPointyEars 03:40 whee smoky extra healing, it wasn't even blessed 03:40 raisse: wow that's lucky 03:41 My IRC username gives me Huor Ciryatan, which is a bit less elfholey. 03:41 but I hastily had to scribble Elbereth to keep the jackals from killing me, didn't drink the EH for nothing 03:41 yikes 03:42 Oh he has a hobbit name generator as well! 03:42 LarienTelrunya: From now on I shall be known as Milo Bumbleroot. 03:43 hahaha :D make that your IRC nickname! 03:43 No, scratch that, Popo Foxburr of Fair Downs 03:43 How very British, these hobbits. 03:43 I'm Belba Loamsdown of Deephallow. 03:43 That's actually a good name. 03:43 Or Nellas Carnesîr if I'm an elf 03:44 my wallet name actually does better, Amaurea Vanimedlë 03:44 raisse: wow you have awesome names ♥ 03:45 oh shit I need to look at the hobbit one 03:45 if I make one for my daughter she's Sára, which is almost what we called her in the first place but didn't. 03:45 oh if you don't enter a last name you get to be Tinúviel 03:45 Fastolph Grubb 03:45 YES! 03:46 I like it much better than my elven name 03:46 That must be Farmer Maggot's cousin. 03:46 hi Fastolph, I'm Belba 03:46 Lol 03:46 Visits during the holidays. He always brings a cider that everyone likes but it gets them way too drunk. 03:46 -!- Crawldragon is now known as Foxburr 03:46 mmm sider 03:46 cider, even 03:46 I'm not *already* drunk 03:47 I really need a beer. 03:47 raisse: Eh, you need a nutritious breakfast 03:47 I go by Fast for short 03:47 I've already had a nutritious breakfast, but being a hobbit I probably need another 03:47 !booze Foxburr 03:47 * Beholder hands Foxburr a pint of grappa, prayed over by TheresaMayBot at 169 degrees Fahrenheit. 03:47 wow a pint 03:47 no wonder people get drunk 03:47 what about second breakfast? 03:47 It comes in pints??? 03:47 !breakfast 03:47 !food 03:48 ah well, 03:48 What the fuck is grappa anyway? Wikipedia, give me your answers 03:48 Beholders don't need to eat. 03:48 "Creme de menthe? Two pints of that, then." 03:48 Oh, it's a kind of brandy 03:48 grappa is brandy 03:48 ^^ 03:48 Christ, a whole pint of brandy? That'll fuck you up. 03:48 yes, made from what's left over after you squeeze the juice out of the grapes 03:48 it's wonderful (in small quantities) 03:48 lol 03:49 Better at least make it a tiny American pint 03:49 Well, fellas, we have all this wine, but I reckon we can still squeeze some alcoholic beverages out of what's left 03:49 I enjoy brandy. I use it in a lot of my cocktails that I come up with. 03:49 our local Italian restaurant has 8 kinds of grappa on the menu, and if you ask they'll tell you about many more varieties 03:49 I really hate brandy. I don't generally like the strong stuff. 03:49 For me it's either beer or wine. I like sake. 03:49 I tried to change ny name of Fastolph but it's already being used -____- 03:49 what about cider? 03:50 I don't think I've ever had hard cider, but in my youth I quite liked the wimpy non-alcoholic cider that people drink during the holidays. 03:50 if you like both beer and wine, you'll probably like hard cider too 03:50 mmmmmm sake 03:50 I think I have some around here somewhere. 03:50 Cool, maybe the next time I scrounge up a budget I'll give it a shot. 03:51 I know it's just one of those things but I do wish we could agree that cider just means booze 03:51 Yeah the only thing I don't like about sake is no matter how much I hydrate after drinking it I always feel like crap in the morning. 03:51 You drink it with food? 03:51 I don't know why. I've managed to avoid hangovers after drinking brandy, whiskey, wines, and beer, but sake just, whoof, it gets me. 03:52 I do generally have some food on-hand when I drink. 03:52 I felt like crap this morning after drinking a bottle of it last night but I wasn't sure if it was that or the three whiskeys I had afterwards that caused it. 03:52 It might have been the whiskey, actually. Whiskey dries you right out. 03:52 Apparently the rule with whiskey is that you need to drink a glass of water after every shot 03:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2033 03:53 I had thought I drank plenty of water but I was dancing all night so I probably didn't hydrate enough. 03:53 Summers in Miami make it hard lol 03:53 It's too damn hot. Even at night. 03:53 Oh hell, yeah that's probably pretty rough. 03:54 Worst hangover I ever had in my life was because I wasn't adequately prepared for how strong whiskey is compared to brandy. When my friends asked me how bad it was I could only tell them it felt like every capillary in my body was constricting somehow. 03:54 yikes 03:55 worst I've ever had was when I was 18 and some friends and I spent an entire day drinking gin and ginger ale. Took me a long time to be able to enjoy gin again after that. 03:55 Never drink anything there's a Hogarth painting to warn you about. 03:56 * introsp3ctive is googling that 03:56 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Street_and_Gin_Lane 03:56 Or, as we had it in Christmas cake form: https://ceb.dreamwidth.org/383069.html 03:56 That looks like a good time 03:57 Except why are their faces all so weird? 03:58 They're Lego, all their faces are... oh, that's just how Hogarth drew people, I guess. (And everyone in Gin Lane is starving to death.) 03:58 <@Winsalot> Anyone here played caves of qud? Is it good? 03:58 The spell hits the leprechaun! The leprechaun is hit by a rock! 03:58 @Winsalot it's fantastic 03:58 (that's the "throw rocks on monsters" spell) 03:59 One of the best roguelikes there is. The story is great. The gameplay is fun. The lore is awesome. 04:00 <@Winsalot> So it's worth 10eur I guess. 04:00 <@Winsalot> Might treat myself, since I have a job now 😃 04:01 I say go for it. Check the website and see what features are planned for it. I'm holding off on playing again until more of the story is implemented into the game. I'd like to play it again once the story is finished so it feels more complete 04:03 <@Winsalot> Also, unrelated question, but I'm using xubuntu 16.04 right now and planning to upgratde to some DE of ubuntu 18.04 soon. Thinking about trying kubuntu this time. Anyone have any input on how to make the transition smooth? Also, what's the best way to make backups? 04:03 backups of what, exactly? 04:05 @Winsalot I usually just put everything I have worth backing up into my Dropbox. 04:05 It promotes a restrained lifestyle. 04:05 I have a cloud server that sits at my place that I use for backups of everything. I had my config files and stuff in a git repository that I backup to that server every week or so. 04:06 <@Winsalot> how much free gb does dropbox give? 04:06 2 04:06 <@Winsalot> not that much I guess 04:06 <@Winsalot> I have 8gb usb somewhere, might use this 04:06 Most of my games are either backed up on Steam, or they're DOS games so they're tiny, or they're open-source so I don't need backups. 04:07 <@Winsalot> I guess that the hardest part will be figuring out what I want to backup and what I can let perish 04:07 I'm the kind of asshole who would pay to have a tiny one-room house built. 04:07 I'm the kind of asshole that knows how to build those. 04:07 Maybe we can help each other? 04:07 <@Winsalot> Also I don't plan on backing uop games, but mostly text documents, photos, some half-started coding projects 😃 04:08 That shouldn't take up too much space, actually. 04:08 Well, the photos might, depending on how much of a shutter-bug you are. 04:08 <@Winsalot> Yeah, but I'm afraid that I might miss something important 😃 04:08 You could use google drive for your photo backup if you want. 04:08 You get 15gb free cloud storage 04:08 Damn 04:09 <@Winsalot> so, backup is kinda sorted. Now about DE. Anyone have their favorites that I should try? 04:09 I use Lubuntu 04:09 I use a window manager. 04:10 <@Winsalot> what the fuck is window manager and how is it different from DE? 04:10 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:10 I like XFCE myself. It's not bad if you're used to a Windows-ish interface. 04:10 <@Winsalot> Btw I tried Lubuntu already and though it was fine I think that xubuntu is pretty much better on every aspect 😃 04:11 XFCE is nice 04:11 Pinkbeast: what window manager do you use? 04:11 I've also experimented with slapping together my own desktop environment with Openbox, which is a good option if you like to tinker with goddamn EVERYTHING 04:12 <@Winsalot> Tbh now I would prefer everything working out of the box. Alse heard that KDE has much more acive developement than XFCE now and that kubuntu is now even more lightweight than xubuntu. That's why I wanna try it 04:13 I really want to do that but I've not yet had the time to build my own. I do plan on doing it eventually though 04:16 Kubuntu is definitely not more lightweight than Xubuntu. 04:16 introsp3ctive: sawfish, because in about errr 1998 fvwm(2?) was annoying me in a specific way. It was sawmill back then. 04:16 It's a perfectly fine desktop environment, and I'm sure it's very well optimized, but it's one of those things that has a lot of features you won't use. 04:17 Winsalot: Really everyone has a window manager; it's the program that lets you move, resize, keep track of windows. What I mean is that I don't have anything else. 04:17 I'm looking at awesomewm right now 04:18 Mozil... er, Firefox... er, Netscape used to love to bring itself to the front when it finished loading a page, or just if it thought you might miss it. I wanted a WM that could selectively ignore window tracking requests; selectively, because I did want well-behaved programs (like the RSI "take a break" thing I was using then) to be able to send stacking requests. fvwm(2?) couldn't do that. 04:19 So this isn't really an endorsement of sawfish, it just hasn't annoyed me enough to change in the last 2 decades. 04:19 I've only been on linux for a handful of years. I grew up on Windows. 04:38 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: what does finalized type of items do? 04:38 @Winsalot: means that the item cannot be blanked, polymorphed or cancelled 04:39 <@Winsalot> cool. Is it a new feature? 04:39 yeah, mainly to reduce the amount of blank scrolls and holy water the player can get 04:40 but it can also happen if you use the cancellation spell a lot, i.e. that can make items finalized 04:44 <@Winsalot> Also, what does "You feel evil and fiendish!" message mean? Here it says that for vampires it means increased alignment https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Vampire_(starting_race_in_SLASH%27EM) 04:45 it means that you ate something that is considered the same race as you, but are a race that may do so, and either gained or lost a point of alignment (gain if chaotic, loss if lawful) 04:46 <@Winsalot> Ok. Though I think that races are a sligtly messed in slex. I'm a snakeman and I get this message when eating someone who is @ 04:47 <@Winsalot> Or is there a reasonable explanation? 04:47 yeah snakemen still count as human for that purpose 04:47 i.e. a hybrid of snake and human, so not human enough to actually get penalized for cannibalism 04:48 but yes, it's kind of a mess; I don't really understand those racial flags or I'd fix it once and for all 04:48 <@Winsalot> Ok 04:48 ideally, I want to make it so that you don't get this "evil and fiendish" message at all when playing a race that may eat humans 04:52 You hit Crawldragon! One of your items got vaporized! 04:52 the benefit of having a pet with passive rusting attacks: you can hit it to rust away unwanted items :P 04:53 oh cooooool I got a granite scourge, which is a d15 flail-class weapon, and flail is one of the few weapon skills I have! 04:56 "You fall into a pit! You stepped into a heap of shit!" 04:57 Foxburr: that's a shit pit; while trying to get out, you will repeatedly step into the shit and possibly damage your boots 04:57 If your boots are damaged by stepping in shit then you're wearing shitty boots. 04:57 Wear proper shoes that can withstand a walk across broken glass. 04:58 heh, I want to put that into slex as a random message :D 04:59 Oh yes, do that. 05:09 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Crawldragon (Arc Mal), 84 points, T:130, hobgoblin 05:14 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: Im already XL7 but had zero skill increases. Could it be that rng decided that I can't train martial arts? 05:14 @Winsalot: that can happen, yes, or it might also be capped at basic or train 5 times slower or something 05:15 <@Winsalot> fucking brutal 05:23 omg I think I found a bones level!! 05:23 who died on the first mines level with the walls replaced by ice? 05:24 "brain golem called Roald Amundsen" says acu, so maybe it's PeterQ's bones file 05:24 yep, there's the ghost :D 05:26 hlllllgh I tried to tame him and his pet via scroll but they both resisted! :( 05:27 <@Winsalot> lol 05:27 <@Winsalot> I guess bones are pretty rare in slex 😃 05:27 sorry PeterQ :( 05:28 yeah it's because of the bones pools, i.e. every level can have up to 10 bones files 05:29 No idea which of my games that was. Did at least get good equipment? 05:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29 uhh, you had a morning star and a short sword, which I unfortunately have no use for; I did get a few of your starting scrolls though 05:31 whatever you do, please don't die on that kobold-filled level because the bones level of that could be hellish for the one who finds it :D 05:34 <@Winsalot> You listen to Jana saying 'I'm well hidden, you won't even find me.' what's this? 05:34 Winsalot: new level sound, possibly indicates a weird-looking room on the level 05:35 I'm trying :D. Is there any way to defend against the dexterity-draining poison rays? 05:36 PeterQ: poison resistance helps, but doesn't offer full protection; ideally you'd have reflection 05:37 Meh, Sokoban gave me a second BoH, and my amulet of poison resistance is cursed 05:38 are you wearing the amulet? it will work the same if it's cursed 05:40 Yeah, I know, but I'm wearing life saving 05:40 ah 05:40 well, without protection, poison breath is really annoying since it has a good chance of draining dexterity 05:40 I'm at 3 anyways, I assume I can't go lower? 05:40 however your dexterity is at the minimum already so it can't be drained further 05:41 yeah 05:41 good thing there's no stat death for dexterity 05:41 (there is for intelligence and wisdom) 05:43 yay now I managed to tame your Roald Amundsen original pet from the bones level :) 05:44 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 05:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3838 points, T:1556, killed by a battle-bat 05:55 "Can spontaneously betray you if tame" Be careful ^ ^ 05:55 lol, a battle-bat 06:01 sadly it's not elona, or we'd have com-bats :D 06:10 <@Winsalot> Is it worth to bother with mines in slex? 06:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3031 points, T:1441, killed by a giant ant 06:11 sure, there's usually shops and stuff, or sometimes you even get orcminetown :D 06:14 also, of course the luckstone still exists, plus you might find all kinds of other loot 06:14 Ruggo's level (the one below mines end) often has a throne that could give you something good 06:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1499 points, T:1182, killed by a dwarf 06:33 <@Winsalot> fuck 06:34 rip :( 06:35 <@Winsalot> And I forgot to check how much stunted my skills were 😦 06:35 <@Winsalot> Can I find that info in some sort of dumplog maybe? 06:39 <@Winsalot> Interesting, nothing about martial arts training rate, which was really slow... 06:39 <@Winsalot> Though this brings tear to my eye: The following skill couldn't be trained before a certain turn number is reached: attack spells (turn 54077) 06:40 <@Winsalot> 54k turns fml 06:40 <@Winsalot> And this type of limitation is just plain evil: The following skill became untrainable if you tried to train it too early: firearms (turn 374) 06:45 To be fair, firearms are borderline useless if you don't have a fabricator. 06:45 Trying to find ammunition is a bitch. 06:45 I think there are gun shops that carry ammo, but I have yet to actually see one. 06:46 <@Winsalot> It's not about firearms. It's about making skills untrainable if I train them too early 06:46 !lastgame Winsalot 06:46 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winsalot/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-03-08%2013%3A21%3A02%2C%20Mourne-Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winsalot/slex/dumplog/1536391696.slex.txt 06:48 also the "skill becomes untrainable if you try to train it too early" is an idea by jonadab :) 06:50 lol this shopkeeper tries to charge me 21013 zorkmids to uncurse my helmet 06:51 You know you're not supposed to actually use jonadab's evil patch ideas, right? That's like a dungeon master throwing an aboleth at a first-level party, it's funny when they get angry but you just don't do it! 06:52 well I *am* an evil dungeon master :P 06:52 also, the more egregiously evil patch ideas are active only if you play in evilvariant mode 06:53 speaking of which, oh god in my current game both the walls and dungeon floor times are invisible now, this is unplayable 06:53 *tiles 06:56 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 612 points, T:1087, killed by a sewer rat 06:58 blaaaaaaah 06:59 that also left bones, I had a scroll of enchant weapon and a scroll of charging among other things 07:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1726 points, T:2217, killed by a dwarf 07:04 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 258 points, T:888, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 07:12 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha), 114 points, T:852, killed by a magic missile 07:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1829 07:19 Evil Patch idea: if a sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame, you take fire damage and your inventory items can be damaged/destroyed. If the sacrifice is consumed in a flash of light, you're blinded for a while. 07:29 another bones level! this time it's apparently Leeroy, who was playing an ordinator 07:35 -!- Foxburr has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.4/20180713174829]] 07:39 You read: "Here lies Leeroy. Damnit" 07:41 EPI: If you die while wearing an amulet of life saving, you get "DYWYPI?". Answering anything but "n" prevents the amulet from working 07:42 hahahahaha that would be ultra evil :D 07:43 Especially if the amulet if unidentified. Though you wouldn't want to wear unidentified amulets anyways 07:43 heh, I do sometimes wear unidentified ones, in my previous game for example I was ballsy enough to test one without even curse-testing it and got lucky, as it was an amulet of ESP 07:44 oh and in that one FIQhack game I was wearing an unidentified amulet of life saving that actually saved my life 07:48 I just ate a loadstone as a rockeater and got the message "You feel much heavier", what does that mean? 07:48 And what does a covetous stone do? 07:48 eating a loadstone increases your carry weight by as much as a loadstone weighs and is therefore not such a good idea 07:49 and the covetous stone makes it so that monsters with covetous AI, e.g. master liches, are more intelligent; if you eat that, you get that effect intrinsically, i.e. it becomes permanent 07:50 the extra weight from eating the loadstone will slowly time out, so you're not completely screwed, but for a while you can effectively carry less items 07:52 Well, then it isn't all that bad as long as I'm polymorphed, since rockeaters apparently have a much higher carrying capacity 07:53 yeah, rock eaters have the M2_STRONG flag, which increases carry capacity by the weight of 1.66 loadstones I think? 07:56 Do unicorns ever drop unicorn horns? 07:57 yes, it's no longer guaranteed though 07:58 I got like 4 horns from not-unicorns and 0 from unicorns 07:58 sounds like RNG shenanigans then 07:59 by the way, unlike vanilla, the unicorn horn skill actually makes the unicorn horn more likely to work when using it to heal status effects in slex 07:59 i.e. it can be worthwile to unlock and train the skill, as every skill point acts as an additional enchantment level, so at expert skill a +0 horn will work as a +3 one 08:02 Meh, I died because I got frozen by quatons. I had a shield of mobility, but not equipped in rockeater form 08:02 :( quatons have very annoying paralysis attacks, I've died to them more than once too 08:03 slex allows you to equip stuff and perform other actions even when polymorphed into something that normally can't, but there's a chance of failure if you try, and the failure effects can give you status effects 08:04 it can still be worth it though; my current char is polymorphed into a three-headed hydra which also actually cannot equip stuff, yet I managed to wear a helmet, gloves, a white dress and an elven cloak :) 08:05 Did you make that form permanent? 08:06 nah, I'm playing the ungenomold race, which has uncurable and uncontrollable polymorphitis 08:06 i.e. if I polymorph into another large monster, my dress and cloak may be destroyed 08:06 as a polymorphitis race, torso armors and cloaks are always transitory, apart from artifacts (those can't break from bad polymorphs) 08:11 How are orcs in SLEX? 08:11 Similar to vanilla? 08:11 they can dual-wield, which they can't do in vanilla 08:12 I'd say they're decent, the poison resistance certainly comes in handy 08:13 oh you have a tin of peaches! those increase constitution when eaten 08:14 there are also tins of fish that increase intelligence, and tins of beans that may increase all stats but also give temporary flatulence; those are generated randomly 08:14 You saw more than I did, I only checked my starting weapon :D 08:14 haha :D 08:15 LarienTelrunya: idea: tins of fish can also decrease intelligence due to mercury poisonin 08:15 g 08:16 aosdict: cursed tins of fish do that ;) 08:16 finally I got a lit mines level again! 08:17 ... and now I'm deathly sick 08:17 time to pray 08:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Sco Alb Mal Law), 416 points, T:93, killed by a monster (kratscher) 08:24 gotta leave in about 5 minutes though, because I'll be visiting my ex-roommate ♥ she's such a wonderful bundle head! 08:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 22588 points, T:7964, killed by a vampire bat 08:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:29 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Trn Mal Law), 328 points, T:515, killed by a monster (Mr. Mured-oog, the shopkeeper) 08:36 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 08:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 08:38 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:643 08:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:951 08:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given the Yoichi no yumi, on T:2488 09:18 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 09:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Kni Alb Mal Law), 3574 points, T:725, quit 09:24 <@Winsalot> Ok guys, bootable usb ready, time to brick my laptop! 09:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:49 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 37710 points, T:8990, killed by an Uruk-captain 10:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2164 points, T:2743, quit 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1998 11:10 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG "it's flesh is seared" bug is still a thing in the latest version, just fyi 11:10 Will do, @rikersan! 11:11 [hdf-us] [fh] ebx (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 31125 points, T:3341, zombified by an elf zombie 11:15 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG w/ lldb, I can repro it easily in wizmode. just go blind and hit something. https://paste.ee/p/lHIfJ 11:15 Will do, @rikersan! 11:18 tins of beans that may increase all stats but also give temporary flatulence 11:18 it's slex, what did you expect 11:18 creating small stinking clouds around you 11:18 hothraxxa: the idea was from someone on 4chan 11:18 an excellent source of ideas 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1394 points, T:2368, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:22 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I believe (from googling around) it has to do with using strcat, probably swittch to using strcat_s (in uhitm.c) 11:22 Will do, @rikersan! 11:22 <@Winsalot> Does 4chan have roguelike threads? 11:23 @Winsalot: yes, http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/227007217 11:27 <@Winsalot> Slex3d, how is it going to find 3d models for all monsters? 11:28 <@Winsalot> How many are there? Million? 11:28 heh, no idea 11:28 maybe just three-dimensional renditions of the ASCII glyphs 11:28 you might do the same as falcon's eye and make most monsters look like ponies 11:28 currently there's 21k or so monster species 11:28 argh monsters y u no leave corpses 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 350 points, T:1770, killed by a brown mold 11:29 <@Winsalot> Also, slex seems popular in 4chan 11:30 heh, mostly because I post about it regularly 11:32 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:33 <@Winsalot> Do you also create rlg threads? 11:33 yes; the current one was not created by me, but the previous one was (and then someone believed I had also made the current one) 11:33 roguelike thread, that is 11:34 http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/226730607#p226730607 is the old one 11:35 <@Winsalot> Anyway. Installed kubuntu, then found that ctrl-alt-T doesn't open terminal and reinstalled xubuntu. I don't know, don't feel like I need all the fancy animations of kde and also feel too lazy to spend time making myself familiar with new de. Xfce wins :) 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10319 11:41 blah the stupid bastard was faster than I expected and killed my polymorphed form 11:44 What do you want to wield? [- aEGLOS or ?*] 11:44 wasn't Aeglos some kind of artifact Tolkien weapon? 11:44 yes, the spear of Gil-Galad 11:44 I often name my silver spears that! :D 11:45 is one of those six slots a spear? ;) 11:45 nope, daggers, darts, a staff and Magicbane (which is E, and that's what I want to wield) 11:45 Too bad the old boy got his caps lock stuck! 11:46 Wasn't it named Aiglos? 11:47 * LarienTelrunya rolls a new character... *groan* let's make a feminist this time 11:47 "In editions of The Lord of the Rings prior to 2005, the spear is spelled Aiglos. Tolkien, however, commented in a manuscript that the more correct Sindarin spelling is in fact Aeglos ." 11:48 (from tolkiengateway.net) 11:48 I deduce that you have an edition of The Lord of the Rings prior to 2005 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11685 11:48 so do I, in fact (1973 iirc) but I've been reading a lot of stuff on the side 11:50 That's funny, what's in my head is Aeglos, and I definitely have an edition prior to 2005 11:50 * elenmirie goes book-diving 11:50 raisse: That's weird because my two editions of Lord of the Rings both have movie images on the covers 11:50 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 11:51 the lotr movies are from like 2007 right? 11:51 the first one from 2001 or so 11:52 I remember having a babysitter when we went to see it, and not taking the girls 11:52 skill reduction trap on the dlvl1 upstair... gonna be "fun" if I survive long enough to come back here with the amulet 11:52 we'd definitely have taken them if they'd been 12 and 13 11:52 hi 11:52 Hello bug_sniper, Welcome to #hardfought 11:53 LarienTelrunya: doesn't slex have a scroll or something that moves the stairs 11:53 yo bug_sniper my savior! *hug* ♥ 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2451 points, T:2368, killed by a gnome lord 11:53 aosdict: nah, I'm not familiar enough with the code and don't want to risk unwinnable games if the staircases malfunction and/or are moved to an inaccessible place 11:54 gah why am I a wererat, I thought it wasn't close enough to bite me when I killed it 11:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4668 points, T:1649, killed by a gnome 11:54 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:58 -!- deadnoob_ has left #hardfought 11:58 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:58 All your Aeglos are belong to us. 11:58 Aiglos too 11:59 in my 1977 edition of LOTR, it is Aiglos 11:59 But, in my 1977 edition of The Silmarillion, it is Aeglos 11:59 ha! 11:59 grr, that wasn't the watch captain, it was a Woodland-elf and he killed me. 11:59 The ice-spear of Gil-Galad in both cases 12:04 LarienTelrunya: Is there a trap which gives an invisible confusion/stun-like effect? 12:04 PeterQ: don't think so, but certain items can cause it, or riding a really fast steed can also cause it 12:05 are you wearing a thinking cap by chance? 12:05 what is the random appearance of your helmet? (use the in-game item descriptions) 12:05 yep that would be it 12:06 Why thinking cap? Lost in thought? 12:06 the in-game description would say: "This helmet thinks for you! It improves all of your stats by one. However, it's also rather self-willed and will occasionally cause you to move in an unintended direction." 12:07 I'm blind, I didn't even notice the stat increase 12:07 if that would cause you to walk in water or other dangerous terrain, you still get the confirmation prompt 12:08 elenmirie: where did the ice-spear stuff come from? 12:08 * aosdict has only read the silmarillion once 12:09 can you eat the hat to get the stats but not the mind control 12:10 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp pets attacking a porcupine seem to "get jabbed by the porcupine's quills" even when they miss and take no damage 12:10 Will do, @Luxidream! 12:11 it's in the language... snow-point 12:12 according to the indices of both books, (LOTR and The Silmarillion) it's only mentioned once in each so who knows why I remembered it at all. 12:13 -!- dell30_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14 LOTR: (Elrond speaking) "I was the herald of Gil-galad and marched with his host. I was at the Battle of Dagorlad before the Black Gate of Mordor, where we had the mastery: for the Spear of Gil-galad and the Sword of Elendil, Aiglos and Narsil, none could withstand." 12:15 so if it were implemented in nethack, it would have cold effects? <-- YANI 12:16 Silmarillion: (again about the Battle of Dagorlad) The host of Gil-galad and Elendil had the victory [...] Against Aeglos the spear of Gil-galad none could stand; and the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil. 12:16 That's it! 12:16 Yes! 12:16 cold effects 12:17 my orcrist doesn't do that :( 12:18 Orcrist isn't Aeglos :/ 12:18 well i was referring to narsil 12:18 you expect so much 12:18 i'm needy 12:21 * elenmirie wants a magic sword 12:22 * raisse tosses elenmirie her spare Demonbane 12:22 * elenmirie catches Demonbane with gratitude 12:22 * elenmirie is off to slay some demons 12:23 elenmirie: None could stand against Aeglos... except Sauron who broke it in half and killed him? :) 12:24 none except that evil bastard, obviously 12:24 I don't think it actually says what happened to Aeglos anywhere 12:25 Narsil of course was broken, and the shards kept 12:25 Gil-galad was killed 12:25 so what happened to Aeglos? 12:26 it's probably in some granny's attic in Gondor 12:26 she turned it into a lamp 12:26 probably an elf took it back across the sea 12:26 yes, that's more in line with the lore 12:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:50 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 12:51 <@rikersan> that's how acid blobs work, you don't even have to hit to take damage? 12:51 <@rikersan> whoops discord didn't scroll 12:51 <@rikersan> @Luxidream ^ 12:51 <@Luxidream> no but the pets aren't taking damage 12:52 <@Luxidream> and the message is displaying each time 12:52 <@rikersan> huh 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21056 12:52 <@rikersan> its' not that they're just taking 1 damage and healing? 12:52 <@Luxidream> no, my cat would easily be dead by now, since pets heal 1hp per 20 turns 12:53 <@rikersan> huh 12:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5711 points, T:2282, killed by a blue jelly 13:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Ang Mal Law), 8346 points, T:2016, killed by a shotgun shell 13:02 -!- dell30_ has joined #hardfought 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:22954 13:10 LarienTelrunya: I got the scroll of acquirement effect from a throne, and I'm not sure whether I should get an implant or a ring. What do implants do? 13:11 Oh, she left 13:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Cha), 2962 points, T:1370, killed by a water moccasin 13:17 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:18 <@rikersan> implants are random 13:18 <@rikersan> so 13:18 <@rikersan> I'd hihgly recommend getting a ring 13:18 <@rikersan> implants almost always autocurse themselves as well 13:18 <@rikersan> they'll give a random effect, but it's just as likely to be something shitty as something nice 13:19 <@rikersan> and rings are easier to use anyway 13:24 Ok, I took the ring 13:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1784 points, T:719, killed by a gnome king 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:62, killed by a sewer rat 13:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 777 points, T:211, killed by a water demon 13:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 56 points, T:67, killed by a fox 13:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2472 points, T:502, killed by a water moccasin 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 696 points, T:629, killed by a gnome 13:49 Water gets into your sack! You attract a water nymph! 13:49 Water gets into your sack! The water glows for a moment. 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 760 points, T:2062, killed by a gnome lord 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2793 points, T:1819, killed by a small aklys 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:29175 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:29977 14:28 hm I wonder if that was deliberate or a stormbringer accident 14:30 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3104 points, T:1944, killed by a parrot 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:33426 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33432 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3863 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4789 15:22 !tell AntiGulp YANI: reading a scroll of knowledge while hallucinating gives you enlightenment instead 15:22 Will do, aosdict! 15:44 aosdict: Not while confused? 15:44 !tell AntiGulp or while confused 15:44 Will do, aosdict! 15:45 EPI: reading a scroll of punishment while confused causes your diety to smite you. 15:46 <@rikersan> that's actually a good idea 15:46 <@rikersan> I'd be happy with that instead of iron balls 15:46 Actually, that could just be a YASI, because nobody ever needs to do that. 15:46 <@rikersan> if you're conf-id'ing scrolls 15:48 is there any way a scroll of punishment could be made actually useful 15:49 in before ais523: "but it is useful, you can throw yourself across gaps and smash things with the ball" 15:53 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 15:54 can an admin help me reset my hf password? the reset isn't working 15:59 K2 ^ 16:01 It's usefull if you're playing a dnethack convict, because it makes your artifact iron ball heavier, and you get extra carrying capacity depending on it's weight 16:08 K2, you there? 16:08 he said he would be busy this weekend 16:08 ugh 16:09 can any other admins help? 16:09 Tangles_? 16:09 who's Sigyn? 16:09 Sigyn is freenode's antispam bot among other things 16:10 how about FIQ? 16:10 not a hdf admin 16:10 <@Luxidream> you can just make another account if you really want to play? 16:11 why do you begin your messages with <@someword>? 16:11 I'm an channel op, I can kick and ban people from this chat if they're being unreasonable 16:11 I have no powers over the server itself 16:11 ok 16:11 Tangles_ and K2 does 16:11 *do 16:11 <@Luxidream> I am from a land called discord 16:11 I thought they might give you the power to update the server, after releasing so many updates 16:11 <@Luxidream> that's just the way I talk, kupo 16:12 ok 16:12 bug_sniper: I suggested it once, K2 denied 16:12 I don't think it had to do with trust, as much as it had to do with "but I like seeing progress actively" 16:12 rld: and i have a saved game as FlamingGuacamole, i'd like to complete it 16:12 or try to :P 16:12 <@Luxidream> FlamingGuacamole: rld is a bridge bot from discord 16:13 <@Luxidream> <@username> is the person talking from discord 16:13 oh 16:13 <@Luxidream> in this case, me, luxidream 16:13 <@bugsniper> when you talk from the discord side, you talk like this 16:13 ok 16:13 why don't you just connect over irc? 16:13 I'm in both 16:13 [10:13 PM] BOTIRCBot: <@FlamingGuacamole> why don't you just connect over irc? 16:13 cogmind is only on discord 16:14 is how it looks like on the Discord side when IRC people talk 16:14 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 16:14 ok 16:14 and the hyperrogue irc channel is dead so that's only discussed in discord 16:14 FlamingGuacamole: countless people have their social gaming circles on Discord 16:14 thus they have no interest in joining IRC merely for a single place of interest 16:15 what other cool places are on IRC 16:15 <@Winsalot> Hi FIQ 16:15 enlightenme 16:15 just like jonadab, for example, has no interest in joining Discord merely to talk about roguelikes 16:15 Luxidream: #tnnt? 16:15 #dnethack #unnethack #slashem #nethack4 16:15 Luxidream: IRC is just the discord of the 1990s 16:16 I prefer it UI-wise, but yeah 16:16 i don't go on discord bc my crappy linux computer has almost no RAM 16:16 A lot of open source projects have their channels on IRC 16:16 a lot of manga and anime translation teams talk on irc 16:17 but they are on irchighway and rizon 16:17 I think Freenode might be the only IRC network that isn't actively decreasing in popularity 16:18 The general trend when it comes to IRC usage is down 16:18 huh, there's no #tmnt channel, despite TMNT being an 80s/90s thing 16:18 aosdict: There probably is, but why would it be on Freenode 16:18 freenode is too new 16:18 I'd guess 16:18 * aosdict doesn't know history of irc networks 16:18 I'd try quakenet 16:19 most popular IRC network when IRC was still highly popular 16:19 <@Winsalot> FIQ: sorry to bother, but are you aware of my problems in fiqhack? K2 should have informed you a while ago ❤ 16:19 I don't *actually* want to discuss teenage mutant ninja turtles 16:19 @Winsalot elaborate? 16:19 aosdict: Heh 16:19 TMNT was before I was born 16:19 winsalot is adopting Amy speech patterns, run! 16:19 <@Winsalot> Save takes me back to hardfought screen when I try to load it 16:19 I know about them, but never really cared 16:19 K2: can I get @Winsalot's save 16:19 ? 16:20 <@Winsalot> but K2 said that there was no segfault detected 16:20 If you are kicked out to the dgl screen when you try to load a save 16:20 then it's very likely a segfault 16:20 whether K2 thinks it is or not 16:20 either way I'd need the save to look at it 16:20 <@Winsalot> K2: username winsalot on hdf-eu, my most recent save 16:21 <@Winsalot> So, FIQ, are you still a student this year? 16:25 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:28 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] Glord (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3454 17:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:39578 17:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Ang Mal Law) shouted "damn it", on T:4408 17:52 !who 17:53 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Leeroy [slex] elron [nh362] SkydiveMike [nh362] Glord [nh362] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:40934 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] Glord (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "a blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4932 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:42727 18:15 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2644 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:5003 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5332 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered Montu, her faithful housecat, on T:3537 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an electric eel, on T:5544 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9052 points, T:5852, killed by an air elemental of Chih Sung-tzu 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2948 points, T:3806, killed by a rope golem 18:52 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 18:53 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Fen Ang Mal Law), 69819 points, T:8224, hidden green slime 19:01 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:43133 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:43224 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:43228 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 boots of speed", on T:43283 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:43284 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:43285 19:40 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 19:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2138 19:51 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56 test 19:56 <@rikersan> sup 19:56 ok good. none of my /help commands were going through 19:56 <@rikersan> rip 19:56 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 19:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7114 20:02 !list 20:03 dangit 20:04 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:05 -!- FlamingGuacamole has joined #hardfought 20:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6350 20:18 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:19 i'd go SDSM, personally 20:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huhetotl, on T:6872 20:30 polymorph traps are annoying 20:31 i would be thrilled if i stepped on a polytrap, because it would mean i had gotten to dlvl 8. 20:39 FlamingGuacamole do you still need a password reset? 20:41 yes, the page wont work 20:41 which page 20:42 and whats your account username 20:43 pw reset page, and acc is FlamingGuacamole 20:45 hardfought doesnt have a pw reset page that's public 20:45 what page are you referring to? 20:45 what's this then? https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword 20:45 phpBB3 messageboard 20:46 has nothing to do with game server 20:46 sigh 20:46 one se ci can manually reset your pw 20:46 i thought the message board was being shut down 20:46 pm me what you want it to be 20:46 /dev/null's messageboard was broken for years, so it's something of a culture shock to hear about a NetHack server's messageboard actually working 20:46 it is shut down no one can post to it or register an account 20:46 it was a message board that became a nethack server, that's why 20:47 aosdict: false 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] tizakit (Sam Hum Mal Law), 33324 points, T:1829, poisoned by a rabid rat 20:48 so there isn't a PUBLIC pw reset page... is there a non-public one? 20:48 i'm testing a public facing password reset page 20:49 i havent made the link available to anyone yet 20:49 Out of curiosity, how are our passwords stored? 20:49 sqlite 20:49 I meant like, from a security standpoint 20:49 If it's just plaintext or if there's salt+hash happening here 20:49 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 20:49 WOOHOO I HAVE EXPLOITS FOR SQLITE no just kidding :P 20:51 PavelB no nothing is plaintext 20:53 to see how dgamelaunch works, here's a link to a repo of the code - https://github.com/NHTangles/dgamelaunch 20:53 at one point, dgl's salting and hashing was broken enough that bits of the password would appear in plaintext within the salt 20:53 that got patched at some point, though, I think 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] tizakit (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 9864 points, T:264, killed by a bolt of fire 20:54 !who 20:54 K2: [hdf-us] tizakit [nh4] Luxidream [nh4] samiam [nh362] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:55 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 20:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00 YANI: Print different messages for when kicking causes "Ouch! That hurts!" and injures your legs and when it doesn't 21:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4334 21:02 ? 21:03 PavelB: how about "Ouch! That really hurts!" 21:03 -!- FlamingGuacamole has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:04 That, or maybe "Ouch! Your leg is injured!" and make it super obvious 21:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5919 21:08 Um. Crap. 21:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19481 points, T:6388, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 21:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10318 21:09 "goto ouch;" remains the line of code in nethack that inanely cracks me up the most 21:10 yes 21:12 I basically want to know if I can keep kicking the sink or if I need to wait a bit 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] tizakit (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 38465 points, T:2047, quit 21:23 <@rikersan> pavel you can also check your dex 21:23 <@rikersan> hurt leg lowers your dex by 1 iirc 21:23 Or I can just kick the sunk and see if it tells my my leg is in no shape for kicking 21:24 But that extra half-second still bothers me 21:26 <@rikersan> if you use curses, it highlights your abiliyt scores in red if they decrease 21:26 <@rikersan> ergo you should use curses 21:28 I did not know that 21:28 ANd I do use curses 21:30 <@rikersan> oh really? 21:30 <@rikersan> maybe ti's my config then 21:36 <@Luxidream> !who 21:36 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] unsound [nh4] bouquet [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 21:39 <@rikersan> !tell ChrisANG (travel command) doesn't select the VS when you hit _ again to search for things marked with underscore,s despite that being an underscore (albeit purple and not an altar) 21:39 Will do, @rikersan! 21:39 <@rikersan> did that formta right on irc? 21:39 <@rikersan> it italicized on disc 21:39 it became italics on IRC too 21:40 although IRC uses control characters to show italics, so we don't have problems with underscores turning into italics when we type into IRC directly 21:40 I think rld does the translation 21:41 -!- dell30_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:41 <@rikersan> hm ok 21:42 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG travel command doesn't select the VS when you hit underscore again to search for things marked with underscore,s despite that being an underscore (albeit purple and not an altar) 21:42 Will do, @rikersan! 21:42 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 21:50 ais523: irssi didn't italicize, it usually doesn't unless there are two underscores on either end of a word with no punctuation in between. As far as I know, I haven't configured anything related to this. 21:51 And when someone does do that, the underscores are still rendered. 21:52 aosdict: Konversation italicised 21:52 here are some italics for you, if you can't see them irssi must either be stripping them or unable to render them 21:52 actually I don't think I've ever seen irssi italicize anything, come to think of it 21:53 underscores create underlines 21:53 is this an underline? 21:53 but most terminal rendering libraries don't use the code for italics for whatever reason, even though most terminals support it nowadays 21:53 Discord doesn't have underline 21:54 was more interested in how aosdict's client showed it 21:54 although now I'm vaguely curious as to how it looked on Discord 21:54 Konsole doesn't support the ansi code for italics iirc 21:54 It doesn't look different from normal text 21:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17134 22:00 take that sokoban! 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh4] Grreela (unsound) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30875 points, T:2641, killed by an arrow 22:16 <@Luxidream> ais523: that is an underline 22:16 Oh, TIL 22:17 <@Luxidream> This is a Very Important Message 22:17 <@Luxidream> is that bolded and underlined in irc? 22:17 Yes 22:17 yes 22:18 <@cat /dev/random> strike? 22:18 I don't think IRC has strikethrough 22:19 IRC formatting is just ANSI, no? 22:19 -!- winny has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] Grreela2 (unsound) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11179 points, T:549, killed by a fox 22:20 PavelB: no 22:21 it's completely different 22:21 things like ctrl-I for italics (in ANSI, ctrl-I is a tab) 22:21 Hmm 22:22 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh4] Grreela3 (unsound) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14560 points, T:730, killed by a large mimic 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:43822 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh4] Grreela (unsound) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1955 points, T:60, quit 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:44594 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh362] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:44595 23:19 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] Grreela (unsound) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 31837 points, T:1566, quit 23:28 -!- tacco| has quit [] 23:30 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 23:38 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 23:41 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:41 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 23:43 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]