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But it hasn't ever been implemented anywhere because it would totally eradicate the current means of self-blinding, with all their drawbacks. 01:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 864 points, T:2857, killed by a bugbear 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Rune (Wiz Mal), 238 points, T:569, dart 01:16 <@kritixilithos> the hero is trained to keep their eyes open for an indefinite amount of time before venturing into the dungeon 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] Lemeza (Rune) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 20419 points, T:809, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:40 the hero must have been trained for SCP-173 instead of the dungeon 01:48 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:49 -!- Lymee has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- Lymia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- tungtn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- Lymee is now known as Lymia 01:49 -!- tungtn has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:31992 02:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:23 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:33846 02:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:34216 02:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 465294 points, T:34396, killed by a shark 02:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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08:11 ugh 08:11 yeah i'll have to fire up discord 08:12 glad you brought that up, I have been meaning to ask him if I should host the rld bot on hdf-us instead of what he's using 08:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:1212 08:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:17 i messaged mtf on discord 08:17 today on hardfought: k2 consolidates power 08:18 hah 08:18 not likely 08:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vv LarienTelrunya stenno] by K2 08:18 * K2 slaps stenno around a bit with a large trout 08:19 thank you mIRC... that never gets old 08:19 I never understood why FIQ forsakes the classic trout for a FIQ-bot 08:19 because FIQ is FIQ 08:20 or the other way around (FIQ is FIQ) 08:20 stenno: I added livelogging to 343-hdf 08:21 go get excalibur 08:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:21 dammit 08:21 that's what you get when you hit people with fish 08:21 true 08:22 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] Demo2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1157 points, T:1204, killed by a hill orc 08:42 K2: thx for updating slex, now my characters should drown less often :D 08:42 -!- Guest88756 has joined #hardfought 08:42 -!- Guest88756 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4883 08:46 YANI: the Orb of Detection gives you automatic searching that is guaranteed to find everything next to you. 08:51 -!- K2 has quit [Quit: Rico, smoke! *poof*] 08:52 -!- K2 has joined #hardfought 08:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o K2] by ChanServ 08:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given Beastmaster's Duster, on T:6358 08:54 -!- K2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55 -!- K2 has joined #hardfought 08:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o K2] by ChanServ 08:55 -!- K2_ has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:07 !who 09:07 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Vis [dnh] barleywine [nh362] | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] PeterQ [nh362] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 09:07 !who 09:07 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Vis [dnh] barleywine [nh362] | [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] PeterQ [nh362] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 09:07 !whereis bugsniper 09:07 LarienTelrunya: bugsniper is not playing. 09:11 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:11 -!- K2_ is now known as K2 09:11 -!- K2_ has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:12 -!- K2_ is now known as K2 09:13 -!- K2 has quit [Client Quit] 09:14 -!- Grimnir5 has joined #hardfought 09:14 -!- Grimnir5 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:14 -!- K2 has joined #hardfought 09:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o K2] by ChanServ 09:15 ok 09:15 bleh 09:17 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 09:27 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:28 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 09:38 What kind of situation do you need to be in that the best use of a wish is a tinning kit. 09:39 being beset by trolls 09:40 or at the castle or Ludios without a lot of resistances but in the presence of the right dragons 09:40 incantifiers can't eat corpses 09:40 but can they eat tins? 09:41 anyway, not every use of anything has to be "the best", it can just be practical 09:41 no, but dnethack tinning kits also make potions of blood, which they can drink. 09:42 had a billion wishes already 09:43 I killed a tengu that left a corpse, so decided to use one of the 4 magic lamps I was carrying on a tinning kit. Got poison resistance, teleportitis, and teleport control all from the one corpse. 09:43 the mindset that every move must be the optimal move makes me so tired 09:43 raisse: Sorry :-/ 09:43 (not that I think PavelB has that mindset, it just reminds me of it) 09:44 would probably have been worth the wish just for poison resistance, really. 09:44 Pinkbeast: *you* didn't do anything! 09:45 but if I had to play like that it wouldn't be fun because it wouldn't be play 09:49 How common is it to have gotten a wish by the time you get to the quest? 09:50 All of my best runs involve a magic lamp -> dsm 09:57 raisse: most boring-but-optimal sentiment IMO is more common among inexperienced players, who don't know if they're capable of winning 09:57 or capable of winning when a lucky fluke doesn't happen 09:59 one of hte reasons that I don't hang out on NAO much any more is that there was a spate of semi-newbies calling me out on my suboptimal moves 09:59 because they thought they'd figured it out and I hadn't 10:00 and they were "helping" the "newbie", not knowing I'd been playing the game for longer than most of them had been alive 10:01 dgamelaunch feature request: have your games hidden from viewers 10:01 yes! not being watched if you don't want to is a great good 10:01 ^^ that 10:02 there's been a time that I played locally because then at least nobody could watch 10:02 or more specifically - you can see that they're playing, but when you go to watch, you're denied 10:02 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:02 as server op i like to see who's actually on 10:02 no harm in seeing connection status 10:03 K2: wouldn't that (being denied) lead to people getting nasty in the channel? "why can't I watch you, afraid of criticism?" 10:05 * LarienTelrunya is a filthy voyeur who always wants to watch others play, especially if they're playing slex :P 10:05 not being able to see others play my own creation would be a torture from hell and also prevent me from spotting bugs they run into 10:05 raisse: maybe? and so what? if they get upset that they cant watch a specific person, oh well. their problem, not anyone elses 10:05 I'd like it to be so that the admin can see everybody, and all other people only the public game 10:05 games* 10:06 LarienTelrunya: I don't watch random xnethack games in the hopes that they turn up a bug 10:06 if they get upset that they can't watch a specific person, and take it out on that person in the channel, it's that person's problem too 10:06 there's a nice little feature called 'ignore' 10:07 and who would get that bent out of shape here anyways? 10:07 which makes it SO EASY to abuse someone behind their back 10:07 aosdict: well I don't specifically watch others in hopes of seeing them trigger bugs, but being able to spot bugs is a nice side effect of watching them 10:07 only question is, where would you configure this hiding-your-game option, and where would it be stored on the disk? 10:07 plus you know i wont tolerate any undue harassing in this channel 10:08 ok brb work calls 10:08 (won't tell the whole usenet story again, but I'll give the executive summary: people were harassing me in a newsgroup so I killfiled them, then they went on to defame me behind my back and I didn't know why everybody suddenly hated me 10:08 had to leave that newsgroup because I didn't feel welcome any more) 10:12 so that's why I don't usually /ignore people (though I may ignore them), I want to be able to see what they're saying 10:12 (and yes, I know that K2 doesn't tolerate harassing) 10:14 gotcha 10:15 wtf, a peaceful master lich 10:15 * raisse watches out for the poly trap 10:15 it's obnoxiously in the way 10:18 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:18 argh a mind flayer 10:25 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26 after considering the matter for 7 minutes, ais523 decides that he does not, in fact, like mind flayers 10:27 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:27 or he's not sure whether he wants to suck raisse's brain ;) 10:30 -!- Pavel__ has joined #hardfought 10:34 -!- Pavel__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:34 the mind flayer did want to suck my brain, in fact, but I have mintc set to 15000 10:35 but yes, it looks like it was aosdict 10:35 er, ais 11:07 -!- BranchPredictor8 has joined #hardfought 11:07 -!- BranchPredictor8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:17 ? 11:19 ais523: 11:19 [16:18] --> ais523 (~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523) has joined this channel. 11:19 [16:18] argh a mind flayer 11:19 [16:26] <-- ais523 (~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523) has left this server (Remote host closed the connection). 11:19 [16:26] after considering the matter for 7 minutes, ais523 decides that he does not, in fact, like mind flayers 11:19 [16:27] --> ais523 (~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523) has joined this channel. 11:19 [16:27] or he's not sure whether he wants to suck raisse's brain ;) 11:20 oh, this is just my connection being terrible 11:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:10143 11:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:10327 11:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:09 !who 12:09 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] barleywine [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:21 aosdict: several years ago, I regularly ran an IRC bot called FIQ-bot 12:21 there is a web IRC client called qwebirc, made by some QuakeNet developers 12:22 the slap there is done with a fishbot 12:22 (a silly quakenet bot) 12:22 so I made a pun from that and replaced fishbot with FIQ-bot 12:22 that's where it comes from 12:28 <[Demo]1> so like fishhack 12:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given Ramiel, on T:14493 12:55 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:1537 13:06 does fishhack have more water tiles and semicolons? ;) 13:19 !tell K2 ugh... slex crashed for me on hdf-eu :( is there a core dump? I'd like to see the backtrace of that crash 13:19 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 13:19 one min 13:19 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-09-04 13:19 EDT: ugh... slex crashed for me on hdf-eu :( is there a core dump? I'd like to see the backtrace of that crash 13:19 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19 something with the weaponizer egotype apparently??? maybe otmp wasn't defined or something 13:20 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:21 @mtf hi 13:22 <@mtf> heya 😄 got it back up 13:22 heh 13:22 <@mtf> sent you some PM's in discord with the issues I'm seeing 13:22 curious, what system do you run rld on? 13:22 <@mtf> I have a basic linux box running in a local datacenter, can't remember which flavor it is 13:22 <@mtf> lemme check 13:23 wondering if it we should rld bot on hdf-us instead 13:23 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:5307 13:24 <@mtf> well the issue doesn't seem to be related to connectivity or system issues... IRC seems to think that RLD isn't registered even though it clearly is (I've logged in with the same credentials personally) 13:24 hmm 13:24 <@mtf> https://pastebin.com/y4bHB5Xk 13:24 <@mtf> here's some examples 13:24 <@mtf> I'm not familiar enough with IRC to really understand what's going on unfortunately 13:25 you connecting via ssl at all? 13:25 <@mtf> lemme check the config 13:26 <@mtf> we're using SASL? I guess? That some other auth protocol? 13:29 SASL is good 13:29 <@mtf> hmmm... I just noticed there's this "autoSendCommands" section thats commented out in our config, looks like it can be used to send auth commands, wonder if I need to do that on top of the regular auth. The bot does say that it logs in as RLD during startup, but I'm not sure it can be trusted. 13:29 <@mtf> https://pastebin.com/tw7LWXWW 13:30 yeah you'll want to do that 13:30 i have znc set to auto auth with nickserv 13:31 <@mtf> hmm... wondering which options I need... pm'ing the nickserv with the identify command seems necessary, but what is this "AUTH" command: ["AUTH", "test", "password"] 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5306 13:33 <@mtf> hmm, well, I'mma give it a shot 13:33 <@mtf> restarting the bot 13:33 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:35 <@mtf> hmm, restarted, immediately gave another registration error, then connected... lol error: Received error event from IRC prefix=livingstone.freenode.net, server=livingstone.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] 13:36 weird 13:37 <@mtf> I'll keep playing with these settings if we encounter more issues... and if that doesn't help I might reach out to the bots creator 13:37 <@Winsalot> Hello, has anyone heard from FIQ? My FIQhack save has been broken for nearly a month (or at least if feels like it has been broken for this long). 13:38 @mtf sounds good 13:38 LarienTelrunya - http://termbin.com/ix6a 13:38 <@mtf> @Winsalot I haven't heard from him for a bit actually 13:39 <@mtf> he's been chatting in nethack-variants this last week tho 13:39 he explained the origin of the term "FIQ-bot" to me an hour ago 13:39 thanks K2, I'll analyze that and then probably deploy some fix 13:40 <@Winsalot> Well, it's september now, so I excpect a student like FIQ will be back here once he starts procastinating his studies 😃 13:40 <@Winsalot> Hey Amy 13:40 <@Winsalot> Where can I read about new roles? 13:40 <@mtf> hehe 13:40 yo Winsalot! sadly the three new roles aren't all that well-documented yet 13:41 aosdict: rld bot wasnt running when FIQ chatted here last. so no one on discord side would know 13:41 I'll have to update the wiki, but first I need to fix this crash 13:41 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 13:41 <@Winsalot> Are any of those roles at least overpowered? 13:45 the hell why did that code even compile :P 13:45 Winsalot: the anachronounbinder can become overpowered if you know what you're doing; mason is decent but not that strong, and hussy is difficult 13:45 LarienTelrunya - also next time you update slex, in sys/unix/Makefile.src and .utl, the line that says 'CFLAGS = -g -O2' get rid of the 2 so the switch is just -O. compiling will take a bit longer but you increase the chances of getting more meaningful coredump output 13:46 K2: oh? okay 13:46 don't know what those flags do but if you say the 2 can be removed, I'll do so 13:47 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:7242 13:47 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#-O 13:48 oh I think I see why that slex crash is there 13:48 apparently otmp is being used while it's uninitialized, so it's actually a miracle that the game doesn't crash much more often 13:48 anyway, will fix that now 13:51 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:53 K2: hence why I told mtf/winsalot that 13:57 K2: alright, pushed fix. please let me know when the server is updated because then I can continue my game without this monster crashing every time :) sorry for the trouble! 13:57 well, at least I hope it no longer crashes 13:58 <@Winsalot> Now that the crash is fixed, please tell me about anachronounbinder 13:59 compiling 13:59 @Winsalot: the acu (short for anachronounbinder) starts the game knowing no skills, but every time you level up, the restricted skill that you used the most will be unlocked. e.g. hit many things with a long sword, and the next level up will unlock long sword. 13:59 And if the acu reaches skilled/expert in a skill, he'll gain an intrinsic/technique, respectively, according to this list: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Binder_(role_in_Slash%27em_Extended) 14:00 Also, if the acu kills a boss monster, he will temporarily have double skill training speed, the duration of which depends on the boss monster's level (higher level bosses give longer duration). 14:00 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 14:00 yay! thanks K2! now let's see if the crash is gone :) 14:01 ugh... somehow the recovery didn't work and it panicked with "Program initialization has failed" 14:01 <@Winsalot> so acu is just a weaker binder? 14:01 K2: uhh, slex crashes on hdf-eu now when trying to start a char 14:01 always says Program initialization has failed 14:02 Winsalot: can actually become a stronger binder because if you used a skill enough, it can be capped at master or even better 14:02 look at your code 14:02 one sec i have another dump 14:02 <@Winsalot> That's nice. Can you lose level caps from level drain? 14:03 <@Winsalot> That's really nice role concept btw 14:03 <@Winsalot> I like it 14:03 nah, you keep them if you get drained, but every level up only gives skills once 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8696 14:04 LarienTelrunya - http://termbin.com/nw9cp 14:04 K2: uhh the only thing I changed was mhitu.c, and the code in question is only called when a monster attacks the player... can you make clean/all? 14:04 i can yeah 14:04 this will take a few min 14:05 I seem to remember that we had this issue earlier, but don't remember the cause/fix 14:06 <@Winsalot> But now that I think about it, this character might have problem training defensive skills (like high heels) or getting enough magic skills along with offense. Or have you theorycrafted it to the point where it works out perectly in the end? 14:06 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:06 ah apparently back then a "make clean" did the trick 14:06 Winsalot: you get 29 level ups, which means you unlock 29 skills eventually; unless you constantly switch weapons, the combat skills will unlock just fine :) 14:08 ah from about a year ago: "02:33 somehow include/config.h was overwritten" 14:08 it wasnt this go around 14:08 that was also when we had the same bug we're seeing now 14:08 ah 14:10 ok amy try now 14:10 on eu? 14:10 yeah 14:10 yep starting a new game works, let's see if I can also recover the one in progress (using two different accounts, one for playing and one for testing) 14:11 yes! that did the trick! my game is still there :) thanks! 14:11 np 14:11 now I'll test whether that monster is still crashy, hopefully it's not 14:11 okay she attacked me 4 times and there was no crash, so this commit seems to have done the trick :) 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 45770 points, T:9380, killed by a rope golem 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 81844 points, T:16918, killed by a rock troll 14:17 K2: once it's also recompiled for hdf-us, I'll give @Winsalot green light for playing an acu if he wants ;) 14:19 <@Winsalot> I've already started start-scumming acu 😃 14:19 oh you're playing on hdf-eu :P 14:19 <@Winsalot> not sure about what race i want to play though 14:20 <@Winsalot> ak Thief is dead is too start-scummy 14:21 shit, someone else is trying to play slex on hdf-us and getting the error 14:21 someone named "Istym" apparently; they'll have no idea now why it's not starting 14:23 one sec still compiling for hdf-us and au 14:23 ah good 14:23 ok all good 14:25 why is Istym suddenly popping up in here and #nethack at the same time 14:25 maybe they also play on nao? 14:26 and thought "hey let's mix up things with a variant" and then it crashed and they thought "well shit, let's play vanilla again if that variant doesn't want to work" 14:26 are they in #nethack? maybe I should tell them what's up 14:27 no 14:27 aww 14:27 wait, maybe they're playing on nao right now, then I could try to send a mail in-game 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 393 points, T:569, killed by a gnome lord 14:27 well they were playing on nao right now 14:27 and then died, so I dunno if they still are 14:28 <@Winsalot> is slex on hdf-eu already updated? 14:28 oh great, they're slot l in the watch list and if I hit l it asks me to start a new nethack game 14:28 this seems like a bug 14:28 or is that them at the character start screen? 14:28 * LarienTelrunya confused 14:28 @Winsalot: yeah :) 14:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1482 points, T:1956, killed by an iguana 14:29 LarienTelrunya: I just uploaded my fleeciest level design yet 14:29 <@Winsalot> so what are the best skills for acu to train? I always felt that flail expert was very good starting skill for binders 14:30 -!- Pavel__ has joined #hardfought 14:30 flail??? I'd probably go two-handed sword or something 14:30 <@Winsalot> but this timeit might be different :thinkception: 14:30 also it'll probably depend on which weapons you find 14:30 <@Winsalot> flail gives disintegration resistance and blink 14:30 <@Winsalot> those are the most badass skills 😃 14:31 oh, you're going for stuff that gives good intrinsics/techniques, I see :) 14:31 My school's firewall has decided to allow ssh connections this year so I expect my productivity to drop to around 0 14:32 <@Winsalot> also, do gloves enhancement now counts as to-hit when using bare handed/martial arts? 14:32 Pavel__: oh so you know how to disable/enable ports? because in my new home, the landlady must have disabled port 22 so I can only use webterminals 14:32 how do I enable port 22 :D 14:32 <@Luxidream> nothing wrong with web terminals 14:33 Winsalot: yes!! it was about time that I fixed that :) in particular, +X gloves can hit "needs +X weapon to hit" monsters 14:33 LarienTelrunya: I don't think outgoing SSH connections use port 22. 14:33 LarienTelrunya: I didn't do anything, school's IT did 14:33 ah 14:33 But anyway, I can play on hdf now, which is pretty cool 14:33 This is evidenced by the fact that you can have multiple ones open to different locations at the same time. 14:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:35 -!- Pavel__ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 14:38 K2: thanks for updating, all the servers work now ♥ sorry again for annoying you! 14:38 !who 14:38 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] ahrimen [fh] Vis [dnh] barleywine [nh362] hypnotist [nh362] groovejumper [4k] | [hdf-eu] winsalot [slex] AmyBSOD [slex] PeterQ [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1018 14:41 hmm maybe Istym is a discord user? let's try to ping them: @Istym 14:44 <@Winsalot> yey 14:44 wtf, why didn't you poke it to death with your polearm? 14:44 <@Winsalot> it got too close 14:44 ah 14:44 <@Winsalot> Also death > polearm skill 14:45 "a petrifying monster" seems a bit generic 14:45 my own acu (sadly that one is on an old version of slex) has managed to unlock both polearms and riding with a cap of master; only problem is that my mount eventually disappeared through a trapdoor, never to be seen again 14:48 Did you reduce the number of moves needed to gain skill in riding? Otherwise you will figuratively never reach master 14:49 I think I did reduce it, yeah 14:53 yep, 33 turns to gain one point of riding skill training (need 20 to reach basic) 14:55 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 15:02 <@Winsalot> is polearm use mandatory in slex? 15:03 hahaha :D well I personally looooooove polearms 15:03 <@Winsalot> and are there any good shortcuts how to hit with them? 15:04 don't think so, it's a question of muscle memory 15:04 by the way, this version very recently added new polearm types that can hit things standing more than two squares away, but those are rare 15:05 <@Winsalot> So most optimal polearm use is a->(polearm latter)-> monster? 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 5221 points, T:2210, killed by a soldier ant 15:06 <@Winsalot> or is there a better way? 15:06 can acu learn two-weaponing? 15:06 @Winsalot: yeah, that's pretty much it; I always adjust my polearm to slot b 15:07 PeterQ: in theory, yes, because slex allows you to dual-wield even without the skill, but until you actually unlocked it, your to-hit will be total crap 15:13 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:18 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 654 points, T:629, killed by a purple worm 15:23 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:12712 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 11527 points, T:3077, killed by a quasit, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:35 LarienTelrunya: [backscroll] petrified by *a* bashing a petrifying monster? 15:35 unless there's a slex monster named "bashing a petrifying monster", which I would not put past it 15:35 yeah that's a minor formatting error that I want to fix eventually 15:40 oh I hadn't even seen that yet 15:44 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 15:54 aosdict: it would more likely be called a "bashing monster petrifying". 15:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: good night!] 16:10 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided disenchanters dungeon wide on T:70422 16:15 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 16:15 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:16 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 3713 points, T:3520, killed by a winter wolf 16:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Barbar (Silver2195) (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the valkyrie of idiot, the former Skirmisher, on T:7387 16:22 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:22 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:23 @mtf your reconfiguration didn't work 16:23 rld is still bouncing 16:24 <@mtf> ugh 16:24 <@mtf> I don't understand why... are there more nameservers that I need to register with or something? 16:24 no 16:24 there should only be one NickServ across all freenode 16:24 which server are you conencting to? chat.freenode.net ? 16:25 <@mtf> lemme check 16:25 if it helps at all, your quit message is being given as "Remote host closed the connection" 16:25 <@mtf> irc.freenode.net 16:25 which suggests it's not freenode that's misbehaving? 16:25 you're in the US right? 16:26 <[Demo]1> he speaks us 16:26 <@mtf> I am, TX, also where the server is located 16:26 change connection url to chat.us.freenode.net 16:26 <@mtf> my current logs 16:26 <@mtf> https://pastebin.com/GkXzUvbL 16:27 <@mtf> but ok yea, I'll give that a shot 16:27 i think livingstone is over in europe 16:27 <[Demo]1> sounds British 16:28 <@mtf> alright restarting the bot, one sec 16:28 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:29 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:29 at least with chat.us.* your bot will only try to connect to the pool of US servers and not global 16:29 @mtf are you sure that rld authenticates with nickserv correctly? 16:29 well... north america at least 16:29 bot is connected to a node in Montreal 16:29 because the rld nick is at least _registered_... 16:30 <@mtf> I know the configuration is correct, with the bot down I was able to log in as RLD myself 16:30 aosdict: if it didnt id with nickserv, chanserv here wouldnt voice it automatically 16:30 <@mtf> immediately got error: Received error event from IRC prefix=karatkievich.freenode.net, server=karatkievich.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] 16:30 thats so odd 16:30 i'd ask for some help from freenode staff 16:31 is ilbelkyr freenode staff? 16:31 <@mtf> yea, that's a good idea 16:31 because freenode staff who are also nethack players > regular freenode staff 16:31 yeah but this wouldnt be the place to ask 16:32 there's a proper channel i think 16:32 #freenode 16:32 (iirc) 16:32 <@mtf> alright so I can just jump in there and ask around? 16:32 the #freenode topic says "feel free to message staff at any time" so I think that's it 16:33 <@mtf> kk I'll jump in there later tonight and see what I can dig up 16:34 @mtf where does the discord server reisde and what does it run on? 16:35 <@mtf> no idea, we don't maintain the server itself, discord does 16:35 oh 16:35 i thought you were one of THE discord ppl 16:35 <@mtf> haha xD not quite 16:35 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 16:35 <@mtf> I'm just the lowly roguelikes discord admin 😛 16:35 well wtf 16:35 one of thousands 16:36 unacceptable! 16:36 <@mtf> hahah 16:36 :P 16:36 <@mtf> There seems to be a recurring error with the ##dcss-discord channel.. I'm wondering if that's related at all 16:37 <[Demo]1> discord is weird 16:37 <@mtf> I might just remove them from the config for the moment to see if that has any effect 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29033 16:37 <[Demo]1> they dont allow a bunch of domains for emails unless you come in through a tor node 16:37 <@mtf> that is weird 16:37 <[Demo]1> pretty sure theres more evidence discord is ran by pedos than freenode yet the poor freenode staff gets so much shit 16:38 discord doesn't allow random people to appear out of nowhere and spam 16:38 <@mtf> alright bot restarting one last time 16:38 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:40 <@mtf> hmm... no errors yet. Maybe that will help 16:40 rld really likes Montreal... 16:40 <@mtf> probably made by a canadian 16:40 <@mtf> 😛 16:40 unacceptable! 16:41 I vote we interrogate hothraxxa 16:41 <@mtf> aye 16:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 16:51 on the other hand, K2 lives like twenty minutes from canada... suspicious 16:58 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cornuthaum", on T:12715 16:59 <[Demo]1> hi 16:59 Hello [Demo]1, Welcome to #hardfought 16:59 jonadab: is there a reason a 4k priest would want a cornuthaum badly enough to wish for one? 17:00 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 17:01 [hdf-us] [fh] ebx (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 9159 points, T:190, killed by a boulder 17:02 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:71562 17:02 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:71562 17:02 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:71563 17:05 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 17:06 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) wished for "blessed eyes of the overworld", on T:12722 17:08 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20 -!- NvpkD1y7Ez has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- NvpkD1y7Ez has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 17:23 aosdict: IMO, no. But some people value them WAY more highly than I do. 17:23 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 17:23 Do note that in Fourk, cornuthaum is buffed. 17:23 <[Demo]1> does it have lasers? 17:23 jonadab: Ok, let me rephrase that, is it a _valid_ wish, strategy wise? 17:24 In vanilla that would be a rather stupid choice for priest. 17:24 (Even ignoring quest artifact changes.) 17:26 aosdict: Well, cornuthaum has been buffed in Fourk. 17:26 But. 17:27 It still has the major downside of causing clairvoyance. 17:27 Personally, I wouldn't wear one even if it was naturally overenchanted. 17:28 But there are people who actively LIKE clairvoyance, and for them the considerations are altogether different. 17:28 It causes clairvoyance for non-wizards, instead of inhibiting it? 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31096 17:31 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36 aosdict: Oh, hmm, wait. Not certain. 17:36