00:00 <@Luxidream> so close 😦 00:00 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:03 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:07 -O defaults to -O0 00:08 -O2 is the recommended settings 00:09 server compiles quickly enough, dont need to optimize 00:09 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#-O 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6206 points, T:5879, killed by an owlbear 00:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:15176 00:24 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:28 K2: O3 actually takes a lot longer to compile than O0. I regularly use O0 not only because it doesn't mess up the order of execution for debugging, but also because a full build is about twice as fast. 00:28 I mean, theoretically you're paying for that faster compile time with a slower nethack executable, but this is _nethack_ 00:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:41 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:43 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:50 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 00:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:25 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 01:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [K-Lined] 02:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Pir Inc Fem Neu), 41990 points, T:9853, killed by a hobgoblin 02:28 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 196389 points, T:23058, killed by a phase spider 02:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Pir Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1423 02:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Pir Inc Fem Neu), 3489 points, T:1541, killed by a bolt of lightning 03:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1791 03:36 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:44 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:46 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:34 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 15468 points, T:6227, killed by a dingo 05:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed scrolls of charging", on T:357 05:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:368 05:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:371 05:24 oh I get it, it's made by M. Night Shambhala, so it has a twist in it. 05:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:383 05:26 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:632 05:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 06:11 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:34 -!- stenno_ is now known as stenno 06:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:50 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- realinari has quit [Client Quit] 07:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:06 assuming i get bored of playing valks, what other role/race/align could i play..? 08:09 wizard 08:09 orc wiz? 08:09 sounds good 08:09 3.4.3-hdf orc wiz 08:10 is there a way to copy my 3.4.3-nao options to hdf? 08:12 i guess i can just c&p with nano 08:13 stenno asks; stenno answers. 08:13 kinda rubberducking this, sorry 08:13 * stenno stops monologue 08:17 it's ok, we are pleased to be your rubber duckies 08:22 * aosdict zaps a wand of polymorph at Muad. Muad turns into a rubber duck! 08:22 I wonder if rubber duck is a slex monster... 08:22 'very difficult' 08:22 noob orc 08:27 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Cha), 8463 points, T:2514, killed by a soldier ant 08:33 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Cha), 4212 points, T:1683, killed by a rothe 08:37 !tell K2 FR: #overview/#annotate for 343-hdf 08:37 Will do, stenno! 08:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:41 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2864 09:06 meh 09:12 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6172 09:12 stenno its on the to do 09:12 K2: Message from stenno at 2018-09-02 08:37 EDT: FR: #overview/#annotate for 343-hdf 09:12 nice, thanksz 09:12 it'll save break though is the only thing 09:12 right 09:15 I mean, if the end goal is to have 3.4.3 gameplay with 3.6 interface improvements, why not start from 3.6.0 and work backwards 09:15 3.4.3-NAO already has most 3.6.1 interface improvements so 09:15 there are only 1-2 things missing 09:16 and i guess gameplay changes would break save compat faster than interface changes 09:16 I figure there would be fewer lines of code edited that way 09:17 porting #overview is rather a lot in comparison 09:20 :v 09:21 well overview is in un and dnh which both are based on 3.4.3 09:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:30 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu), 17433 points, T:7608, killed by a blood pudding 09:35 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 09:56 -!- PeterQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 10:16 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3089 10:39 -!- lel has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:40 -!- lel has joined #hardfought 10:45 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3352 points, T:4428, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a potion 10:55 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- realinari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:02 worst minetown ever lol 11:03 eh, it's 3.4.3, how bad can it be compared to orctown 11:03 <@rikersan> only izchak and then the tool shop has 9 tin openers? 11:04 well, monkeytown with 2 food stores and 1 tool shop which had 4 whistles in it 11:07 But You Can Still Price Id (tm) 11:07 And Buy Protection 11:10 hmmm 11:10 <@IceBox> ooo orctown hate party? i'm in 11:10 <@IceBox> that place sucks all the balls 11:11 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] Rikter (Val Hum Fem Law), 913 points, T:2919, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:15 <@Luxidream> oh shit 11:15 <@Luxidream> adeon watch out 11:15 ... 11:15 is it happening? 11:16 no 11:16 <@Luxidream> aw 11:16 * aosdict thought luxidream just broke adeon's wallclock record 11:17 <@Luxidream> no I haven’t done that 11:17 <@Luxidream> It’s 1:06, I would need a WoW to even try 11:17 * Adeon watches out 11:17 it's cloudy 11:17 <@Tone> 😄 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:52723 11:21 <@rikersan> tfw you decide it's a great idea to eat a fire giant corpse right after the gel cube corpse 11:21 <@rikersan> RIP "oLS 11:28 <@Tone> damn 11:28 mehj 11:29 didn't know i still couldn't pray after 2k turns 11:29 bad rnz luck i guess 11:29 <@Tone> probably 11:30 should've invoked for conflict much more early 11:30 or elbereth or w/e 11:30 i forget that these things still exist in 3.4.3 11:31 <@Tone> yeah Elbereth is really broken in 343 11:31 <@Tone> I feel invincible when I play 11:31 <@Tone> might not help with trolls though 11:31 <@Tone> they tend to whack you with a polearm 11:31 eh i was surrounded and i also stood on _ 11:31 <@Tone> ah 11:31 suddenly /oCM zap made me surrounded with monsters 11:31 <@Tone> not much you can do there then 11:32 <@Tone> I'm always worried about that 11:32 oh wait i had negative luck becuase the first conversion didn't work 11:32 <@Tone> tele would probably be the only thing to save you 11:32 that's why prayer didn't work 11:32 <@Tone> ah 11:32 yeah it was just a bad setup 11:32 <@Tone> happens 11:32 yeah meh 11:32 not the first time i splatted early wowo 11:33 ah well games are cheap 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:53119 11:34 <@Tone> yup 11:37 aosdict: K2: (backscroll) `-Og` tells GCC to optimize for debugging and is recommended over `-O0`. 11:37 PavelB: in practice, -Og sometimes skips lines of code when I'm stepping through it in gdb, O0 does not. 11:42 Also, from `info gcc`, `-O` defaults to `-O1` 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5351 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54132 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54134 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "wand of speed", on T:54398 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "wand of speed monster", on T:54398 12:03 <@Luxidream> !whereis stenno 12:03 @Luxidream: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh343]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:289 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:54851 12:11 3 dwarves, 3 mattocks 12:11 ah well 12:12 <@Luxidream> I use them anyway stenno 12:13 <@Luxidream> but sometimes I continue a run without any pickaxe 12:14 <@Luxidream> so I don't exactly make the best decisions sometimes 12:16 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG both sting and glamdring at the same time causes some weird issues with warning, since wielding/dropping/picking up all set different flags for "turn warning off". i.e. having sting in open inv, but unwielding glamdring will disable OrcVision™, or wielding sting and dropping glamdring (same thing) 12:16 Will do, @rikersan! 12:19 @Luxidream yeah me too 12:19 this wont be a deluxe speedrun anyway so it doens't really matter i guess 12:19 low-effort speedrun 12:21 <@Luxidream> I need to steal your rcfile 12:21 <@Luxidream> looks good 12:21 <@Luxidream> with the light radius and stuff 12:21 there are 1-2 problem with it 12:22 most important problem is that this will pick up any stone when i am blind 12:22 should probably remove that rule 12:23 <@Luxidream> I only use $?!/=". maybe I should define some more rules 12:23 <@Luxidream> and actually pick up spellbooks in 3.6 because you're constantly broke there 12:24 yeah 12:24 well for the early game 12:24 i do that too in 3.6.x 12:29 <@Luxidream> I found this 12:29 <@Luxidream> https://www.twitch.tv/t30d 12:29 <@Luxidream> twitch plays nethack 12:30 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 12:32 aosdict: FWIW, the degree to which the Fourk magic chest comes prestocked is known to be in need of some rebalancing. 12:32 jonadab: Message from AntiGulp at 2018-09-01 12:44 EDT: Thank you so much for your tiletool! It’s made doing tile work actually bearable / possible! 12:32 !tell AntiGulp Yeah, I made tiletool because I kind of needed it, because doing the tile designs in a graphics program and then translating them into the format NetHack wants was very unnecessarily tedious. 12:32 Will do, jonadab! 12:32 @Luxidream it was somewhat fun 12:33 @Luxidream but at some point it got griefed 12:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 68 points, T:371, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 12:34 <@Luxidream> oh really? 12:34 <@Luxidream> I've literally never seen this 12:35 <@Luxidream> I thought it was new 12:35 nah it's really old (if that's the same) 12:35 <@Luxidream> wonder what the farthest it's ever gone is 12:35 ascended 12:36 <@Luxidream> really? 12:36 eh 12:36 it's not like twitch plays pokemon where with tens of thousands of players 12:36 so mostly there was only a single person playing 12:36 <@Luxidream> at this speed it'll take like a month to ascend 12:37 this was the one https://www.twitch.tv/letsplaynethack 12:38 <@Luxidream> that one has autoexplore 12:38 <@Luxidream> seems better 12:39 <@Luxidream> and chat commands for every extended command 12:40 > Your knees seem more flexible now. You feel yourself slowing down. 12:40 aosdict: Do a !oSpeed's vapor effects give intrinsic speed or does it have to be quaffed? 12:41 PavelB: d5 turns of intrinsic speed yes 12:41 @Luxidream whats more interesting is a shared robin account 12:42 jonadab: Yeah, and prestocking with and without magic chests is going to be balanced differently. 12:43 > The potion of speed gives intrinsic speed and a short duration of very fast speed 12:43 Doesn't intrinsic speed mean you permanently gain the intrinsic? 12:43 I can assume the player was competent enough to survive to reach the home level, but if you put a magic chest in minetown then you can't give the players as much good stuff because they'll hit it earlier. 12:44 PavelB: consider the meanings of "intrinsic speed" in vanilla 12:44 <@Luxidream> stenno: those are pretty inactive, but still exist on nao 12:44 yeah but why not just make one on hdf 12:44 * PavelB should use the chest on the home level for stashing all the scrolls that will inevitably get burned to a crisp during the quest 12:45 i think any robin account was wrecked at some point so might aswell start a new one 12:45 PavelB: valkyrie starts with intrinsic speed, as in permanent. potion of speed gives intrinsic speed as in it's definitely not extrinsic, but it's still temporary. 12:45 the properties code handles the timeout and intrinsic in the same bit field 12:45 s/intrinsic/permanent intrinsic/ 12:45 (Actually valk is speed at level 7) Ok, got it. 12:46 <@Luxidream> last time I played on round robin on NAO someone left me a wizard stressed carrying a chest standing on an engraving telling me to make a stash in minetown 12:46 How does round robin work? You switch off every dlvl? 12:47 <@Luxidream> every 1k turns I think 12:50 as many as you like :P 12:50 i'd also recommend to share passwords only with that you actually want to play with 12:51 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:51 also also to consider is that a robin account is always as good as its weakest player 12:51 there is no synergy 12:52 it can be a bit stronger than the weakest player if their weakness is in strategy/preparation rather than in tactics 12:52 ais523: Message from aosdict at 2018-08-28 00:44 EDT: the main wishing side effect of making "wooden flute" -> "flute" etc is that you can't reliably wish for the nonmagical flute; it might give you a magic one instead. This probably isn't a huge issue, but it nags at me. 12:52 yeah ok 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] Rikter (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4575 12:54 <@Luxidream> I made one but I forgot to change the config file 12:55 <@Luxidream> so this game is kind of screwed 12:55 rip 100% ratio 12:55 lol 12:56 <@Luxidream> I mean it's still winnable, just no one will want to play with default settings lol 12:56 unless you find anselmus 12:56 <@Luxidream> some NAO player? 12:56 apparently he was last seen 640 days ago though 12:56 yeah he even used to play with !color 12:57 <@Luxidream> there are still people like that 12:57 and he was extremely good 12:57 slow, but very consistent 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a bat, on T:9845 12:58 I can live with !color but it makes the game much slower to play 12:58 actually, once I termcasted my /dev/null games in green on black to troll clan EIT 12:58 <@Luxidream> weird, did beholder consider that a startscum? 12:59 (I was actually playing in color, but had a filter on the termcast) 12:59 <@Luxidream> does clan EIT actually do taht 12:59 <@Luxidream> *that 12:59 was clan eit around last devnull? 12:59 even? 12:59 i think they were 12:59 <@Luxidream> yeah they were 12:59 some of its players were, I'm not sure if the clan itself was 12:59 <@Luxidream> they ran gunyoki.net 12:59 yes 12:59 <@Luxidream> and had a clan 13:00 their website used to say "we only play in GREEN on BLACK" or sometihng like that, as a kind of humorous taunt/boast 13:01 oh yeah http://claneit.org/ 13:01 - Tilesets are for weenies! Color is for llamas! We only play with GREEN ON BLACK!!! 13:02 <@Tone> lol I've never seen that 13:03 eit_krog used to run a really good EU devnull server 13:04 color is for llamas? aren't they partially colorblind? 13:04 <@Tone> Rule 4 - No camping!! 13:04 :D 13:05 one year clan EIT parked all their games at the altars 13:05 and then ascended them all in the last few minutes of the competition 13:05 it was somewhat controversial 13:06 standard strategy nowadays :P 13:06 <@Tone> It's a pretty valid strategy unfortunately 13:06 <@Tone> if you end a game then you just give everyone else a target to beat 13:07 well if all clan members only get one ascension in they wont win the tourney 13:07 <@Tone> huh, didn't know one of the EIT guys was the ZAPM dev 13:07 ooh, this gives me a new idea for a clan competition 13:08 "most consecutive days with an ascension" 13:08 (they don't all have to be by the same person, obviously) 13:08 I guess that'd still encourage altarcamping, but in a different way 13:09 <@Tone> stenno: That's true but you can hide your low turncount number or whatever by parking the ascension 13:10 <@Tone> That's definitely an interesting take on it ais523 13:11 win-more trophies are a bit boring imo 13:12 I found a +0 Dwarvish Cloak that reduces my AC by one when I wear it 13:12 <@Luxidream> PavelB: is it leather? 13:13 stenno: well the aim of junethack clan tourneys is to encourage clan co-operation more than anything else 13:13 Plastic 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:11565 13:15 btw, has there been much discussion about a November tournament this year? we ought to have one if someone's willing to run it and can come up with a good setup 13:15 <@Luxidream> it is mysteriously "being worked on" 13:15 Oh, I misread the materials table and thought cloth was AC 3 13:15 @Luxidream: oh, so much the same as the other November tournaments :-D 13:16 I can't stand all this mysteriousness 13:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:10427 13:20 oops 13:20 thought i knew charging already 13:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3464 13:21 no ID known, no EA known, no RC known, and a cursed elven cloak 13:21 time to read random scrolls! 13:22 ;) 13:22 no altar either? 13:22 RC? 13:22 [Demo]1 its coming 13:22 can't wear my sdsm 13:30 -!- PeterQ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] pavelek (Val Hum Mal Law), 66527 points, T:12937, killed by a gremlin 13:34 <@Luxidream> !whereis stenno 13:34 @Luxidream: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh343]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:6087 Gehennom level: 29 13:34 found enchant armor yay 13:34 <@Luxidream> speed boots in realtime speedrun? 13:34 now only IDs is missing 13:34 alwways 13:35 i like it a lot 13:35 <@Luxidream> how do you have enough wishes 13:35 SoM :P 13:35 2 for 1 13:35 <@Luxidream> oh yeah 13:36 <@Luxidream> how is the time looking 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 76613 points, T:11089, killed by a lieutenant 13:36 badly 13:36 its a sloppy run 13:36 also i wasted about 10 minutes at the castle becasue i thought i saved 13:37 <@Luxidream> that's about the time I spend at the drawbridge because I am bad at mastermind 13:37 <@Luxidream> don't worry 13:37 still don't have scroll of ID 13:37 which is a bit annoying 13:37 <@Luxidream> you have levitation? 13:37 yeah 13:38 found =oLev 13:38 want TC and FA 13:38 but most of all ID 13:38 maybe i continue to yolo-read unknown scrolls for now 13:38 i'd like to know how many charges my marker has 13:38 <@Luxidream> geno would be nice too 13:39 <@Luxidream> I don't think I want to know how annoying realtime speedrunning gets with arch-liches still alive 13:39 ah got ID 13:40 hm hm 13:40 <@Luxidream> wow you are loaded 13:40 <@Luxidream> so much money 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 rustproof grayswandir", on T:15115 13:42 hmmmmm 13:44 <@Luxidream> surprised you don't pick up tripe rations, what do you use for confusion? 13:44 wut 13:45 oh right 13:45 lol 13:45 <@Luxidream> I would just confused tele up here tbh 13:45 <@Luxidream> oh 13:45 should've worn my sdsm at some point 13:45 <@Luxidream> woops 13:45 ah well that was a shitty run anyway 13:45 <@Luxidream> !lastgame 13:45 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nobbs/nh343/dumplog/1535897640.nh343.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nh343/dumplog/1535904111.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mishka/nh343/dumplog/1535870318.nh343.txt 13:45 post-castle ?oID is just not good 13:46 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9cdyzw/the_november_nethack_tournament/ 13:47 <@Luxidream> usually I levelport up if I'm XL:14 after valley 13:47 i tried to, didn't have ?oTele 13:48 <@Luxidream> you had an identified one in main inventory 13:48 must've picked it up somewhere after votd 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Rikter (Val Hum Fem Law) ate for the first time - Woodland-elf corpse, on T:7238 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh362] Rikter (Val Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a Woodland-elf corpse, on T:7238 13:49 K2: you should probably post the announcement to rgrn too 13:49 just did 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1166 13:49 <@Luxidream> I was under the impression that most of rgrn played locally? 13:50 new reddit layout is new, took me a minute to find the crosspost button 13:50 much of them do, but they'll still drop into tournaments sometimes 13:50 K2: can use old.reddit.com/whatever 13:50 if you're using an account you can change to the old layout in your settinds 13:50 and really should, the new layout wastes so much space 13:50 yay. 13:51 was that an actual deadly poison death? 13:51 yes 13:51 <@Luxidream> yes 13:51 indicated by the 'poisoned' 13:51 <@Luxidream> "poisoned" also displays when you are killed 13:52 <@Luxidream> by the extra poison damage 13:52 right, I think it can indicate if the poison kills you through damage 13:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:12464 13:53 can i get a non-dark mines that would be nice 13:54 i like the new reddit layout 13:54 posting is actually a lot easier 13:55 I don't like the way it only shows one or two posts per screenful 13:55 also the way it loads images by default 13:59 <@Luxidream> wish I could get a 0:3 wow for once :p 14:00 <@Luxidream> casual runs don't count 14:00 heh 14:00 <@Luxidream> also, has the perm_invent full inventory ID bug been resolved yet? 14:01 there were apparently multiple bugs on that subject, I believe at least two have been resolved 14:03 <@Luxidream> just saw it work for PavelB just fine 14:05 <@Luxidream> PavelB: go to FIQhack if you want the oracle consultation to actually do anything 14:05 Do they not give XP 14:05 the first of each type does in vanilla 14:05 that's a common way for pacifists to get above level 1 14:05 st:6 14:05 Arch-lich chameleon on oracle level 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:13585 14:05 this game... sometimes... 14:05 <@Luxidream> 50 + 5*XL 14:06 ruined a perfect game 14:06 well not perfect, but a good one 14:06 ais523: now it gets you to level 2 if you can find a novel :) 14:06 er, *past* level 2 14:06 <@Luxidream> an insignificant amount for non pacifists 14:06 hey i have a good idea for a monster: a relatively low-level one that can turn into ANY other monster :D 14:06 chameleon 14:07 <@Luxidream> stenno: at least it wasn't an arch-lich at castle 14:07 (not quite but close enough in practice) 14:07 <@Luxidream> that would have wasted more of your time 14:07 should i just quit now or what 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:13633 14:07 can you run 14:07 ais523: that's what just happened to stenno 14:07 ais523: how to fight an arch lich on DL 9? 14:07 I've fought an mmf shallower before now, but that mostly relied on it not being covetous 14:07 <@Luxidream> hope it doesn't kill you and turns into a lichen 14:07 i killed iot now 14:08 but i still have St: 6 14:08 an =oPFSC would be useful in that situation (and not many others) 14:08 <@Luxidream> pick up a chest and pray 14:08 Spork gave me an arch-lich on the top of Sokoban; I bashed away at it and hoped, which worked. 14:08 <@Luxidream> or get overtaxed by some other means 14:09 stressed is enough? 14:09 <@Luxidream> no 14:09 ah bad LUCK 14:09 <@Luxidream> Being overtaxed or worse as a result of more than 3 points of strength drain 14:10 <@Luxidream> rip 14:10 why does nethack even have a balanced monster generation 14:10 doesn't make sense 14:10 !lastgame stenno 14:10 stenno: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nh343/dumplog/1535910791.nh343.txt 14:11 <@Tone> that wiki wording isn't completely accurate, right? The overtaxation doesn't have to be a result of the strength drain 14:11 <@Tone> You just have to be overtaxed 14:11 <@Luxidream> what if you would still be overtaxed even after your strength was restored? 14:11 Well, your god can't fix strength drain that isn't drained 14:18 @Luxidream are you still watching my game by any chance? 14:19 <@Luxidream> yes actually 14:19 Any ideas? 14:19 <@Luxidream> you can zap a wand at it, or throw rocks and junk weapons 14:20 Time to find some rocks I guess 14:21 Actually, can I chuck food at it? Will it do damage? 14:21 <@Tone> @Luxidream Yes your strength is still restored if you are still overtaxed/loaded after the prayer 14:21 <@Luxidream> no 14:21