00:09 [hdf-us] [nh362] pUnk9 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 673 points, T:1570, killed by a soldier ant 00:15 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 00:22 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 00:26 [hdf-us] [un] thakanator (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of arnibald, the former Jail-bird, on T:2409 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Silver2195 (Val Hum Fem Law), 1933 points, T:2934, killed by a small cave lizard 00:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Silver2195 (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 212 points, T:481, killed by an electric shock 00:57 zap 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 70413 points, T:18725, killed by a giant mummy 01:01 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:04 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:07 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:07 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 01:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 442374 points, T:32529, killed by an elf-lord, while frozen by a potion 01:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:52 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3439 01:59 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law), 187 points, T:214, killed by a falling object 02:09 -!- interd0me15 has joined #hardfought 02:09 -!- interd0me15 was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [interd0me15] 02:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 27476 points, T:7298, killed by a black unicorn, while taking off clothes 03:10 -!- stenno__ has joined #hardfought 03:27 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (moon.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 03:27 -!- stenno__ is now known as stenno 03:27 -!- stenno__ has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- r00tobo26 has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- r00tobo26 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:46 -!- stenno__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:54 !who 03:54 K2: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh362] Raisse [nh362] | [hdf-au] No current players 03:54 morning! 03:59 -!- stenno is now known as Guest75049 03:59 -!- Guest75049 has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 04:04 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:16 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:19 -!- aeoi has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 04:23 -!- ykkie has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:24 -!- aeoi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 04:42 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 04:45 slash em confirmed for 2d minecraft https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Fishing_pole 04:47 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- ykkie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:59 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:05 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- Sigyn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 -!- Sigyn has joined #hardfought 05:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Sigyn] by ChanServ 05:23 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:54616 05:25 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:35 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:25 You see here a food ration. You feel hungry. You vomit! 06:28 K2: are you here? *bundlebundlebundle* slex 2.32 would be ready for hdf whenever you are ;) 06:33 -!- RussellB2825 has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- RussellB2825 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:35 -!- irinix10 has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- irinix10 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 12530 points, T:6077, killed by a wolf 06:53 -!- was has joined #hardfought 06:53 -!- was has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:43 The steam vortex engulfs you! You are burning to a crisp! <-- really? when I'm being steamed? not very crispy 07:44 change burning to crisp to you enjoy the sauna 07:44 only after you get fire resistance 07:45 before that you're being boiled alive or somehting like that 07:45 'welcome to the lobster boil' 07:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:56 -!- lynn_ has left #hardfought 08:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:02 -!- tungtn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:04 -!- khoR has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:05 dear Anu, don't you understand that I don't want yet another long sword? 09:06 argh a posse of elf-lords 09:06 the only offensive wand I had was sleep, and that obviously doesn't work on them 09:10 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- tungtn has joined #hardfought 09:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3043 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5778 points, T:3099, killed by a winter wolf cub 10:13 [hdf-us] [slex] thakanator (Blo Nor Mal Neu) killed the mahou shoujo of Lymia, the former Preparing for Exams, on T:8526 10:41 -!- [Demo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:59 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11950 points, T:10892, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:07 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:09 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3466 points, T:1957, killed by a soldier ant 12:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:471 12:30 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1364 points, T:4976, killed by a vampire called mightyquinn, while fainted from lack of food 12:36 aosdict: Do materials have any effect on containers 12:36 Like is there a gameplay difference between a stone large box and a bone large box, e.g. 12:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 12:44 weight, price, same as for other stuff 12:44 otherwise no nothing special about containers 12:45 * aosdict wonders how you even make a bone large box 12:50 I thought there might be something like resistance to being kicked/forced open 12:50 -!- TriangleSausage has joined #hardfought 12:51 -!- TriangleSausage has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51808 12:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51808 12:58 aosdict: odd behaviour when you try to dip a potion of oil. it won't dip but you get no message, then if you try again it says you can't dive into the water to pick up items 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8511 points, T:5093, killed by an invisible stalker 12:58 you cant dilute potions of oil in xnh 12:58 but 12:58 those msgs are weird 12:59 i know this, but i always forget 12:59 in another variant you can't cancel them 12:59 !potion hothraxxa 12:59 * Beholder tosses hothraxxa a vial of see invisible, fermented by FCCBot at 2 degrees Celsius. 12:59 this tastes like slime mold juice 13:00 yum 13:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51823 13:01 * PavelB wonders why the devs thought slime mold would be a good generic fruit 13:03 PavelB: Because in Rogue, potions of see invisible say "This potion tastes like slime mold juice." 13:04 hothraxxa: dip a potion of oil into what? 13:04 fountain or pool 13:04 also isn't oil not cancelling to water vanilla behavior? 13:04 -!- rosseaux16 has joined #hardfought 13:04 yeah it's vanilla behavior 13:04 could be. i get the variants mixed up and i dopn't play vanilla much 13:05 -!- rosseaux16 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:05 one of them lets you cancel them 13:05 oil turning into water isn't cancellation, it's polymorph :P 13:05 it makes sense you can't dip them. not so sure about the cancellation logic 13:06 They can't be cancelled because they're not magic. 13:06 however not complaining about whether you can or not, i'm pointint out the odd messages 13:06 ah that makes sense i guess 13:06 hothraxxa: I'm not getting a message about diving into the water 13:07 try to dip, get nothing. try again, what happens? 13:07 I mean, I'm getting no message at all, repeatedly, which yeah it should at least say nothing happens 13:08 i got the can't dive into water thing more than once. maybe it's only pools? 13:08 no, still nothing 13:09 hang on a sec i'll see if i can reproduce it 13:09 the dive message is in the dopickup function 13:09 I think you may have typoed a , 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51830 13:10 wow, you tried to reproduce a bug and wound up performing the invocation instead! amazing 13:10 :P 13:10 well i need a moat 13:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51835 13:11 there's no possible way that you get that message except for an attempted pickup command over water 13:11 so I assume that somehow instead of #dip x , the comma got freed somehow 13:12 and was interpreted as its own command 13:12 ah it's when you hit , twice 13:12 or that 13:12 yay nothing to fix 13:12 so nothing happens so you think the keystroke didn't happen 13:12 yes, that does need a message 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a strange object on an altar, on T:5697 13:12 well yes there is, there should be a message 13:13 man, I hate finding these new things to do in the middle of a large unrelated commit 13:13 d'oh. didn't need that ring 13:14 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4235 points, T:3235, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 13:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:29 aosdict: Small weird with the What is command, `W a wraith (peaceful shade)` 13:29 Shades are not wraiths 13:29 yes they are in xnethack 13:29 the monster class is W for wraith 13:30 shades, barrow wights, ghosts, nazgul... they're all types of wraiths 13:30 I guess it's a little ambiguous that there's a monster named "wraith", but that problem also exists in vanilla 13:31 you would get "W a wraith (barrow wight)" 13:31 That's a bit annoying 13:33 "Spirit" might be abetter name 13:33 but then... W 13:33 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 12 points, T:273, killed by a sewer rat 13:34 I mean, I could change the mlet description to "wraithlike being" or something, but are those other W merely wraith-like or are they kinds of wraiths? 13:34 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 74 points, T:64, killed by a fox 13:34 nazgul at least are explicitly a kind of wraith 13:35 I don't think shades and ghosts are, though 13:36 yeah but do you really want them back on space? I don't 13:36 I'd say shades are a sort of ghosts 13:36 I had ghosts and shades on X in 3.4.3 13:36 (not because they're a kind of xorn, but because I didn't see the spaces) 13:36 I guess if the letter of a class is forced to represent the class name you're going to have some problems 13:37 i: an impish creature 13:37 *cough* zruty *cough* 13:37 yes for the most part nethack handles class letters representing the class name gracefully 13:38 sometimes it's clunky, as in a, x, y, t, u 13:38 Ah hah 13:38 y a light 13:38 Where's your class name/letter consistency now 13:39 ._. why are stalkers on E 13:40 in d&d they are a type of bound air elemental 13:40 also, y for light is almost certainly from before black lights existed 13:41 Y an apelike creature 13:41 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41 from before there were any Y other than yetis 13:43 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:47 stalkers used to be I (possibly for Invisible) before everything you can't see became I 13:55 i think this will work nicely - https://ptpb.pw/ZDNU.png 13:56 Are those all tame? 13:59 yeah 13:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v PeterQ] by K2 13:59 PeterQ try again 13:59 found a polytrap on big level 13:59 !tell Chris_ANG Another bug: Invoking Quicksilver when "fast" but not "very fast" gives the message "You feel a surge of power, but nothing seems to happen." instead of "You feel yourself speed up.". Acquiring "very fast" afterwards gives no message 13:59 Will do, PeterQ! 13:59 just tamed another monster, will named it after u pavel 13:59 Thanks 13:59 had to enable +q here again because of the spambots, and you havent identified with nickserv 14:00 winny: I hope you don't end up killing any of them, if this is xnh or 362. 14:00 if you register a nick here and id with it, you arent affected by the+q setting here 14:00 K2: Ok, will do 14:01 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:01 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 14:01 aosdict: why is it different? 14:02 winny: XNH and 362 livelog you killing named pets 14:02 because Beholder will announce your sin for all to hear 14:02 -!- PeterQ has quit [Client Quit] 14:02 :) 14:02 this is on alt.org actually 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh362] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Ed, his faithful kitten, on T:2 14:02 i found i had a really nice config on alt.org 14:02 looked at me funny 14:03 and too lazy to figure out the best way to copy it over 14:03 Online rcedit 14:03 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2569 points, T:4675, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 14:03 hire a cabana boy 14:03 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/ 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh362] aosdictj (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered Microsoft Windows, his faithful kitten, on T:1 14:03 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 14:03 lmao nice aosdict 14:04 -!- PeterQ has quit [Client Quit] 14:04 orc no like kitty 14:04 as barb i almost always end up accidentally killing my pet 14:04 cleaver to good 14:05 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 14:05 winny: Assuming this is you, you can copy from https://alt.org/nethack/userdata/w/winny/winny.nh361rc to rcedit 14:05 still kind of amused with my last death 14:05 oh nice PavelB 14:05 i gotta consolidate my cfgs pronto 14:06 K2: feature request, hdf pulls a player's configs from a git repo they set up 14:06 or just use the super easy and efficient rcedit 14:06 What determines egregiousness on https://alt.org/nethack/egregiousdeaths.html? 14:07 Looks like it's about how much you were "overkilled" 14:07 yes, and since bisection sets your HP to -MAX/2... 14:08 actually I think every single death on that page is bisectin 14:08 bisecion 14:08 bisection argh 14:09 bison erection 14:09 thats how i read it 14:09 ... 14:09 There's a killed by an invisible plains centaur 14:10 if only i could find a altar lmao 14:10 PavelB: yeah but the -416 HP means that almost certainly the C was wielding the Tsurugi of Muramasa 14:10 If bisection is -MAX/2, how does -9989/198 happen 14:10 aosdict: tbh i think it might be better to just offer sftp 14:10 HPMAX has changed over the years IIRC 14:11 tbh that raises a question of DGLAUNCH auth sufficient enough 14:11 lately i've had players email me asking why there isnt a web based dgl account setup 14:11 i should maybe look into setting something up 14:12 perhaps 14:12 maybe sort of perhaps kinda 14:12 nah 14:12 that's just PEBKAC 14:12 they'll have to eventually telnet or ssh in 14:12 hdf doesn't support telnet 14:12 everytime its 'but alt.org / NAO has it' 14:13 good riddance 14:13 K2: i'd ignore it 14:13 it's still pebkac 14:13 ;) 14:13 we still get people in #nethack asking why nao tiles don't work 14:13 makes sense to make ppl register via the same way they log in 14:13 er, nao webtiles 14:13 tbh 14:13 ah 14:13 3.1.3 - 3.3.1 adds 1234 to u.uhp, letting players with sufficiently high HP and half physical damage tank it. 14:13 i removed that option from our hterm 14:13 oh man im almost tempted to #quit this character on the basis couldn't find any altars 14:14 3.4.3 adds like 200 to the damage 14:14 really really lazy 14:14 but i won't 14:14 no 14:14 #pray until you get nuked 14:14 too good toon 14:14 Funnier livelog 14:14 trap the priest and convert the minetown altar 14:14 i thought it was (HP * 2) + 200 for bisection 14:14 damage 14:15 stenno: Correct, after 3.3.1 some time it changes to HP * 2 + 200. ("FATAL_DAMAGE_MODIFIER"). 14:15 stenno: have you given 343-hdf a spin yet? 14:15 I wonder if with sufficient negative AC and half physical one can also laugh that off? 14:15 so recap, have nasties as pets, have WoW found just past big room, 4 BoH found mostly in the mines, and it goes on 14:15 found +5 daggers for throwing 14:15 Pinkbeast: i think bisection ignores AC 14:15 winny if you quit that game i will disown you 14:15 lmao 14:15 K2: not yet 14:16 found like 4 luckstones 14:16 Don't you have conflict for the pets to just kill the minetown priest? 14:16 Pinkbeast: what is more interesting is that you can probably overflow damage 14:16 could have skipped the mines if not for wanting loot 14:16 yeah i could convert minetown 14:16 er actually i looked that up once 14:16 but i was hoping to have a main branch altar 14:16 stenno: I don't think it does given the comment "Players with negative AC's take less damage instead of just not getting hit. We must add a large enough value to the damage so that this reduction in damage does not prevent death." 14:16 overflowing is not possible 14:16 oh hm 14:16 ok 14:16 i don't think i need to generate conflict since i have a blue dragon who will happily kill peacefuls that powerful 14:17 I got a really lucky early wish and I just got to dlvl 8 and now I'm searching after every step in fear of polytraps ruining my SDSM 14:17 You'd have to damage-reduce 100 points, implying AC -101 or better, so hard to do in practice. 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +3 pair of iron shoes on an altar, on T:3267 14:17 Pinkbeast: i just went for GDSM because too much risk 14:17 winny: I think you are in a different context. 14:17 oops yes 14:17 that was for PavelB 14:18 imma go to the supermarket shortly and then i will see if i find something that keeps me awake enough so i can play 343-hdf 14:20 \o/ 14:20 get me a sandwich while you're out please 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:6056 14:22 a bit in a bad mood because i sucked at work today 14:22 :( 14:22 there are those days i guess 14:22 its the weekend now though 14:22 well for you 14:22 i still have 3 more work hrs to go 14:22 anyway, time to forget all the sorrows by eating a nice salad and getting some club-mate 14:22 yeah i guess 14:23 i'm not picky about the sandwich fyi 14:23 surprise me 14:23 how will i send it to you 14:23 is a salad fine too 14:23 no no... i'll be over 14:23 oh ok 14:23 yeah salad works 14:23 heh 14:23 a relaxed 12 hour flight should make it possible 14:24 are you east coast or west coast? 14:24 east 14:24 ok at least 14:24 All I want in life is a scroll of id 14:24 i want a star trek teleporter. soooooo badly 14:24 Pls rng 14:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Bin Swn Fem Non), 176 points, T:167, killed by a water moccasin 14:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Bin Hum Fem Non), 23 points, T:216, killed by a grid bug 14:33 you know... i dont see where you can actually register a player account on NAO 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9836 points, T:5160, killed by a vampire 14:33 you can login and stuff (rcedit, etc) 14:33 but not actually register... 14:34 'r' on the first screen you get when you telnet 14:34 well yeah via dgl 14:34 i meant on the website 14:35 perhaps it's not psosible on the website 14:35 i hope not 14:35 that way i dont have to try and set that up lol 14:36 dtype: 1) you should link to Mandevil's NHS under 'links/other sites' on NAO and 2) the game info is out of date (still shows you host 3.6.0 and 3.4.3) 14:38 Finding an altar to moloch in minetown is kinda weird 14:38 is there an altar to moloch in a minetown that isn't orctown? 14:38 hmm 14:38 not that i know of... 14:38 Well it is orctown 14:39 ORCTOWN 14:39 rawr 14:39 death to all orcses except player orcses! 14:39 i like xnethack's spin on orctown 14:40 K2: https://alt.org/nethack/webconf/ 14:41 on https://alt.org/nethack, there is "Edit your config file (current version)" 14:41 right 14:41 but scroll down to bottom of the page 14:42 there is nothing at the bottom of the page 14:42 the main page 14:42 oh the Game Info 14:42 \o/ 14:42 was just replying to your remark that you couldn't find the rcedit link on the main page 14:43 ... i didnt say that 14:43 oh 'register' 14:43 my bad, sorry 14:43 :) 14:43 yeah you cannot do that from the page 14:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:51982 14:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51986 14:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52127 15:05 K2: tx will update 15:06 it's about time texas received an update, the bugs are awful 15:06 dont mess with texas 15:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52582 15:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52656 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:13237 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53087 15:23 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed greased fireproof +3 grayswandIr", on T:13292 15:30 Weird. If you #monster as a vampire, unlike regular vampires, you totally transform into the fog cloud/wolf/bat form, and you are no longer considered a vampire. 15:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh362] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 964 points, T:2737, killed by a rothe 16:01 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 16:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:17 aosdict: you mean you can't #monster again to change back? 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 680 points, T:1862, killed by a gnome 16:25 oh6: among other things, yes. I was testing whether it would hurt to pick up silver, and that also doesn't hurt. 16:29 aosdict: What happens if you #monster as a vampire with unchanging? 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 710 points, T:1876, killed by a bolt of cold 16:38 Probably the polymorph fails? 16:38 yes 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 99 points, T:245, killed by a goblin 16:45 Anyone who tries vampire polyinit is going to be dissapointed 16:48 is becoming a fog cloud really anything that great 16:51 I suppose not 16:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Silver2195 (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 4139 points, T:2757, killed by a dwarf 16:59 wew, found the portal to ludios 17:02 argh no altar at all lmao 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3903 points, T:5756, killed by a soldier ant 17:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 17:20 [hdf-us] [un] vid (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+2 blessed magic dragon scales", on T:61580 17:27 I'm adding code to make elves and other fairy-like creatures dislike iron, but have run into complexities what with a lot of artifacts being iron. 17:27 @rikersan does dnh address this problem? 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh362] hypnotist (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19399 17:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:10786 17:35 Have Grayswandir, have SDSM, yeet! 17:35 <@IceBox> Where's your mr? 17:36 Hopefully I'll get that later 17:37 I have two scrolls of enchant armor I can use to recover my SDSM in case I get polymorphed 17:39 <@IceBox> When you bust out you get the scales back? 17:39 <@IceBox> Must be a variant thing 17:39 when you unpoly into your normal form yes, if you poly into something too big to wear it no 17:40 yeah it's not anything I added 17:40 but if your current DSM is +4 or above you have to cast drain life at the scales first or they'll evaporate on re-enchanting 17:40 or wear them and read cursed enchant armor, I suppose 17:40 get them back to +3 17:40 @IceBox If you poly while wearing DSM you always become a Dragon 17:41 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 17:42 Hmm, I should make some monster that hates paper so that I can have "You can't handle The Truth!" be an actual in-game line. 17:52 aosdict: Are there spoilers for the various vapor effects? 17:54 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 18:02 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 18:03 -!- tacco| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1609 18:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:13066 18:06 :) 18:06 :))))) 18:06 Get /oDeath'd 18:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13099 18:08 aww yiss 18:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] shadowsapex (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 635 points, T:1802, killed by a large mimic 18:21 !tell Chris_ANG I assume this is a bug as well: The chromatic dragon does not drop scales in gehennom 18:21 Will do, PeterQ! 18:23 <@rikersan> I think he said it was a bug 18:23 <@rikersan> might have been upgrade to feature status tho 18:23 <@rikersan> aosdict: what, artis being iron? 18:23 <@rikersan> 2-fold: one there's a fuckton of other artifacts 18:24 <@rikersan> two gloves will stop it on weapons, shirts for body armor, etc. 18:24 <@rikersan> no socks or anything, so iron helmets/kicking boots/metal gauntlets will always hurt 18:24 <@rikersan> and dnh "hurting" is 1/lvl * hp regen rate I believe 18:25 <@rikersan> (along with 1dlvl (pc level not monst) iron damage on a hit from an iron wep) 18:26 oh right, gloves. obvious solution. 18:26 -!- TheoM has joined #hardfought 18:26 I successfully completed the quest for the first time today 18:26 <@rikersan> ya 18:26 That makes me pretty happy 18:26 <@rikersan> gloves or armor doesn't stop the iron damage bit 18:27 <@rikersan> (tho hopefully that would be added as part of the AC/DR split) 18:27 PavelB: I feel concerned for the health of your smiley face, it has four chins! 18:27 also the only vapor effects spoiler is potion.c 18:27 Getting 2 blessed magic lamps was pretty cool 18:31 -!- TheoM has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:33 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 18:35 @rikersan: That feature would make doing the dragon pretty pointless then (especially since his cave is sealed off and the stairs are outside) 18:36 <@rikersan> what, in gehennom? 18:36 <@rikersan> yeah I kinda agree 18:36 <@rikersan> I think chris's excuse was "do'nt want to give the player too many artifacts" 18:36 <@rikersan> but...... 18:38 That's already pretty late in the game, the player would probably have an ascencion kit at that point already and no need for the scales 18:40 And there are only 4 (?) artifact body armors to begin with, 2 of which are unwishable dragon armor... 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4662 18:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:16605 18:43 Goodbye SDSM? 18:43 <@Tone> yikes 18:43 Goodbye SDSM indeed 18:43 <@Tone> :( 18:44 <@IceBox> where'd you get it anyways PavelB? an actual silver dragon, i presume? 18:45 Turn 100 blessed magic lamp 18:45 <@IceBox> why not GDSM? 18:45 Because I forgot it exists 18:46 <@IceBox> haha fair enuff 18:46 Wouldn't have saved you from lycanthropy anyways 18:46 <@IceBox> true, did you miss the "feverish" log? 18:47 I accidentally fat fingered reading cursed summon monster and had to pray to heal myself, so it wasn't safe to pray 18:47 <@Luxidream> holy water cures lycanthropy 18:47 <@IceBox> oo i didn't know that, i just prayed or wolfs bane if i randomly had it 18:47 Didn't have any 18:49 <@Luxidream> no altars by quest? 18:49 No I used it all up 18:49 Oh hey polymorph trap 18:50 Guess what I don't have to worry about anymore 18:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:50 <@IceBox> i guess you really found the.....silver lining? 18:51 Yay 18:52 I really need to find a container 18:52 The quest basically nuked my entire inventory 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh362] barleywine (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12996 18:53 <@Luxidream> You can usually stash items in quest home 18:54 Any ideas? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IZ1yGSBF/image.png 18:55 <@Luxidream> Elbereth 18:55 <@Luxidream> You’re lucky you aren’t dead 18:55 Oh good idea how do I always forget 18:56 <@Luxidream> You don’t seem to have any other options 18:56 YAAAAY I LIVED 18:58 <@Luxidream> Next time just don’t go in eel rooms? 18:58 <@Luxidream> please? 18:58 <@Tone> yeah dig around it if you have to 18:59 <@Tone> or have an easy escape on hand 19:00 Tyr is a real sadist it seems 19:01 Stepped on a magic(?) trap, became blind, summoned a shit ton of monsters, not all of them respected Elbereth. 19:01 With that armor class I wouldn't go anywhere but the mines until I'm at -10 or something 19:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 121492 points, T:18186, killed by a red dragon 19:02 <@Luxidream> Elbereth has bad chance to work when blind 19:02 Ah, right, forgot about that 19:02 This is fine. Farthest I've ever gotten. 19:04 Eventually I'll fix magic traps so that the blinding and summoning don't both hit at once out of the blue 19:06 pfft 19:06 nethack light 19:07 or lite 19:07 -!- PeterQ has left #hardfought 19:09 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 19:12 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:15 <@Luxidream> !lastgame 19:15 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PavelB/xnethack/dumplog/1535732521.xnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh361/dumplog/1535739713.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1533813217.dnh.txt 19:20 <@Luxidream> Did you wish for grayswandir? 19:20 Yes 19:20 I used two holy waters on a cursed magic lamp 19:22 <@Luxidream> don’t do that 19:24 <@Luxidream> Get MR or something 19:25 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 19:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:26 <@rikersan> unless your'e tourist 19:27 <@Luxidream> PavelB has more balls than me though 19:27 <@Luxidream> going to Medusa depth with ac:4 19:27 luxidream confirmed female? 19:27 As you can see, I had a plate mail 19:27 Which I forgot to put on 19:27 Because I'm a dumbass 19:28 So I thought my AC was lower than it actually was 19:28 <@rikersan> heh 19:28 <@Luxidream> no 19:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed historic unlit magic harp named property of cupid", on T:53253 19:36 -!- ProzacElf_ has left #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:53290 19:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53290 19:38 !lotg hothraxxa 19:38 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, hothraxxa! 19:38 ty 19:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class z, on T:53445 19:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class S, on T:53445 19:51 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2145663 points, T:53559, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1535291880.xnh.txt 20:10 -!- dan3wik has joined #hardfought 20:10 -!- dan3wik has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 20:35 <@Tone> 'grats hothraxxa! 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1262 points, T:3105, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:711 20:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:766 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:806 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +3 helm of brilliance", on T:835 20:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:924 20:58 grats hothraxxa 21:02 @rikersan Of course, the problem with gloves preventing material damage code-wise is that it seems hard to negate that without also negating the ability for artis to blast you or evade your grasp 21:10 woo hothraxxa! 21:12 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:17 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:31 -!- strengthen has joined #hardfought 21:31 -!- strengthen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5649 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11484 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:6052 21:49 I really don't get why in some places the nethack code is extremely shortsighted and makes the worst assumptions, and in other cases code exists to cover cases that can never happen in vanilla 21:55 -!- lonjil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh362] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 68013 points, T:12949, killed by an elf-lord 22:10 Hmm, I just noticed, in vanilla, if you are in a silver-hating form, you can pick up silver items just fine barehanded. Not sure why. 22:11 <@Tone> that's weird 22:11 <@Tone> if you turn into a silver-hater don't you take damage and drop silver items? 22:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:33 -!- tacco has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11295 22:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] mirolee (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:1440 22:55 -!- of has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- of has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 23:00 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:13357 23:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Silver2195 (Bar Vam Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:2395 23:33 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:35 @Tone yes, there are a bunch of triggers for retouching your equipment 23:35 (which may get annoying for elves and iron...) 23:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:37 Random showerthought: I'm surprised I've never seen any nethack take on "blessed image / cursed image" memes. 23:39 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh362] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:16943 23:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Silver2195 (Bar Vam Mal Cha), 9442 points, T:4879, killed by a gnome lord 23:55 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:914 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1831 points, T:994, killed by a small crossbow bolt