00:02 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:03 variant activity graph https://pastebin.com/XBESBRhF 00:04 ... and now that I pasted that I realize that 361-hdf should probably be marked "Maintained" 00:04 I started playing 2.3 in 1988 or so, so there 00:04 PavelB: Anyway, no, the 12 year hiatus was characterized by total devteam silence - because at that point, they still espoused the practice of "we don't divulge information about upcoming versions" 00:05 Did they say anything after 3.6.x came out though 00:05 so as years went by people got doubtful that they were doing anything at all, and would never announce anything again 00:06 (indeed, for I think 2005-2012? or so? there was zero activity) 00:06 and then shortly after 3.6.0 came out they publicized their github mirror of the code 00:07 so that practice of not telling anyone anything was moot 00:09 You should put the graphs on the NHWiki variants page 00:10 was thinking about it 00:12 K2: pushed 0.4.0 branch, but it's not in master - will probably make some savebreaking object materials changes soon, so no rush to get this on hardfought. 00:13 actually if you do get this on hardfought then I will be very sad because the savebreaks will have to be pushed back to 0.4.1 00:14 which digraph display app are you guys using to interpret this pastebin? 00:15 bouquet: WebGraphViz is the easiest, but GraphViz dot should work too 00:15 http://www.webgraphviz.com/ 00:17 should put nhLegacy in there for funsies 00:17 ha 00:18 sorry, I guess that's more of EPI 00:18 but it's not a patch idea 00:18 how different are 3.6.1HDF and the version on NAO? 00:18 pretty different 00:18 well, it's evil. 00:19 NAO is currently running out of the box 3.6.1 00:19 hdf has curses interface, livelog, etc 00:19 but no gameplay changes? 00:19 no, but that's not necessary for it to be a variant, nitrohack is the other main example 00:20 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 00:21 I don't think we want to count Vulture and tilesets and NHLegacy and such though 00:21 !tell aosdict I don't think NetGuac will be very good, the creator has admitted to never reaching minetown 00:21 Will do, Luxidream! 00:21 And the mobile ports, etc. 00:21 too bad for Gurr. 00:22 I believe his android port is just a wrapper around vanilla. 00:22 a very sexy wrapper. 00:22 it's not a terrible port. I ascended on there once 00:22 better than inethack2 at any rate 00:23 . 00:23 aosdict: Message from Luxidream at 2018-08-25 00:21 EDT: I don't think NetGuac will be very good, the creator has admitted to never reaching minetown 00:24 that dude understands the challenge of building a touch UI for an ancient ascii game. 00:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:25 another significance of both 361-hdf and nitro is that other variants took their changes and built on them. with nethack legacy and mobile ports that's not the case 00:26 ok off to bed, did not intend to spend hours on variant graphing 00:27 Good night! 00:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 641 points, T:1351, killed by a gnome lord 00:46 Me: Disables polyok check 00:46 xNetHack: Tells me that "Line 1: polyinit: 'archon' is non-polymorphable." anyway 00:47 Wait no 00:47 I'm bad 00:47 I didn't see a `!` 00:48 :O I'M PLAYING AS A MAIL DAEMON 00:49 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 6688 points, T:6491, killed by a forest centaur 00:49 I cannot attack anything. 00:51 What does "You have 56 hit dice" mean? 00:52 that's like monster level 00:52 HD: 56 00:52 Oh ok 00:52 how much health do you have 00:52 245 00:52 I wonder if xnh polyinit will let me do the quest 00:53 in order to kill mail demons you have to OHKO them otherwise they run away 00:53 I guess that would be really hard with physical damage 00:53 PavelB: if you have no melee attack try missile weapons 00:53 I think they have proper body parts 00:54 I mean I'm wielding a sword 00:54 I just can't hit with it 00:54 you mean you're missing? 00:54 or that you aren't using the sword 00:54 > You have no way to attack monsters physically. 00:54 Whenever I try to (F)ight 00:54 what happens when you (t)hrow 00:55 Works 00:55 Cool 00:55 grab some daggers it's going to be a long game 00:55 mail demons probably don't have a melee attack coded 00:56 Assuming I can actually get into the quest with xplvl 1 00:56 level up first :P 00:57 only fourk lets you in at level 1 iirc 00:57 Can I level while poly'd? 00:57 It only shows HD, not XP 00:58 you can 00:58 it won't be shown 00:58 Oh ok 00:58 but you will be notified when you gain a level 00:58 At least I oneshot lichens with my dagger 00:59 :O I can kick things 00:59 Resistances: Fire, Cold, Shock, Sleep, Poison, Stoning 00:59 speed: 24 00:59 It's pretty great 00:59 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 00:59 Also I fly 00:59 That's nice too 01:00 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 01:00 you also swim 01:00 and are unbreathing 01:00 Mail daemons are pretty great 01:00 fun fact: kicking actually ignores the to-hit penalty from wearing armor as a monk 01:00 so it is useful sometimes 01:02 I wanted to find out if a mail daemon could defeat a water demon 01:02 The answer is no 01:03 I mean strictly speaking the answer is yes 01:03 But it summoned buddies 01:03 if you had a melee attack probably 01:03 with speed boots you're speed 36 01:03 wow 01:03 Ok time to polyinit as an archon 01:04 This surtur guy isn't gonna know what hit him 01:04 try not to get cherry tapped to death 01:04 Oh hey an impossible 01:05 polyforms have the worst regeneration possible 01:05 Before I complain to aosdict about because of a bug found while polyinit'd into a form that's normally illegal, what's a monster with a gaze attack that's a valid polyform I can test with? 01:07 Ok with Umber Hulks it works properly 01:08 Ok this seems to only be an archon thing 01:08 Hmm 01:08 Well here's the impossible https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ftOPwyiF/image.png 01:09 #monster as Archon 01:09 Woah 01:09 > St:18/** Dx:16 Co:18 In:7 Wi:9 Ch:9 01:09 What do the ** mean? 01:15 Luxidream: So apparatnly Archons get intrinsic regeneration 01:16 18/** = 25 01:16 for all intents and purposes 01:16 except throwing mjollnir 01:16 Neato 01:17 yeah they do 01:17 I didn't know that either 01:17 Apparantly I can't weak cloaks though 01:18 too big 01:19 I wonder what I should use wished on if I get them 01:19 Since DSM is out 01:19 shield of reflection 01:19 MR artifact 01:20 that's what I used as a zruty, plus life saving 01:20 Oh hey stoning resistance 01:21 sounds like someone who has smoked too much weed 01:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:25650 01:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:28 In case anyone was wondering what archon polyinit feels like: https://youtu.be/36lSzUMBJnc?t=199 01:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:40 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Wiz Ang Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5074 01:40 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Wiz Ang Fem Law) averted death, on T:5108 01:44 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:45 <@mtf> sorry for the delay 01:45 <@mtf> should be coming up now 01:46 Yeah it's up 01:46 <@mtf> great 01:46 <@mtf> I've been looking into why it's going down 01:46 <@mtf> seeing a lot of error: Received error event from IRC prefix=weber.freenode.net, server=weber.freenode.net, command=err_cannotsendtochan, rawCommand=404, commandType=error, args=[rld, ##dcss-discord, Cannot send to channel] error: Received error event from IRC prefix=wilhelm.freenode.net, server=wilhelm.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] info: 01:46 Connected to IRC (node:5653) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection (rejection id: 6): DiscordAPIError: Missing Access error: Received error event from IRC prefix=niven.freenode.net, server=niven.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] error: Received error event from IRC prefix=niven.freenode.net, server=niven.freenode.net, 01:46 command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] info: Connected to IRC (node:5653) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection (rejection id: 8): DiscordAPIError: Missing Access error: Received error event from IRC prefix=niven.freenode.net, server=niven.freenode.net, command=err_notregistered, rawCommand=451, commandType=error, args=[*, You have not registered] info: 01:46 Connected to IRC in the logs 01:46 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:47 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 01:47 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Wiz Ang Fem Law), 11921 points, T:5486, killed by an invisible spectre called k2 01:47 * AntiGulp shakes fist at K2 01:47 <@mtf> the script should log in with the bots credentials 01:48 <@Pavel> Which IRC channel does the #nethack Discord channel connect to? 01:50 For anyone who plays splice on hardfought, there is now a bones level with angry spectres of K2 and Antigulp floating around that have acces to a wand of death, reflection, and magic resistance. HAVE FUN 01:50 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-08-24 22:50 EDT: this FlamingGuacamole guy has apparently started work on their variant. from the looks of it, it's a kitchen sink variant. maybe you should recruit them for splicehack dev team? ;) 01:51 <@Tone> PavelB: It's linked to ##nethack-discord on freenode 01:51 Ah, thanks 01:51 <@Tone> There's also a ##nethack-variants 01:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:27738 01:57 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:04 !tell aosdict Might wait on that ;) I’m interested to meet them though, their commits remind me of my random experimentation when I was still figuring out how the code worked. Also, what if we just merge all the variants into XDnitroacespligrunevilguac4fourkslexbrassHack? 02:04 Will do, AntiGulp! 02:04 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 02:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:28217 02:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28219 02:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:44 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:10 !who 03:10 FIQ: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 03:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:28 I have never seen that before 03:31 what, nobody playing? 03:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:33 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 03:46 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:57 eek I dropped my scrolls of scare mosnter on the altar 03:59 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:00 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:07 lol, I thought I'd been eating jackals 04:24 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:09 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:29 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 05:34 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:56 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:22 grr, *I* wanted to kill *it*! 06:22 i will probably see the pope today in dublin 06:22 if we can come close to him even 06:23 lol I didn't know you were in dublin 06:23 yeah doing vacation with attie because she has a conference here 06:23 if you can come close enough and hit him with a rubber chicken, we'll be able to see him next year when we go to dublin for worldcon 06:23 haha 06:24 You see here a statue of a high priest. 06:25 -!- PeterQ has joined #hardfought 06:25 must be strange to be a person with the knowledge that if anyone moves towards you at wrong time or the wrong angle, they get shot immediately 06:30 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:35 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:41 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:53 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:10 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class 'h', on T:16734 07:10 a very elf thing to do 07:22 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 75473 points, T:16985, quit, in explore mode 07:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased ring of slow digestion", on T:10 07:27 hm 07:27 K2: why is game mode not announced in livelog? 07:29 is it my fault 07:29 or the bot's 07:30 Grasshopper: no, that would be genociding 'o' 07:31 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 07:31 yes, I guess elves would hate o more than h :o 07:35 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:37 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased ring of slow digestion", on T:15 07:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20 07:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:21 07:46 someone found an early WoW 07:54 no, explorer mode I think 07:55 just the game doesn't tell in livelog 07:55 or Beholder is being silly 08:08 Interesting, /me messages don't seem to trigger Beholder to deliver !tells. <-- Tangles 08:08 aosdict: Message from AntiGulp at 2018-08-25 02:04 EDT: Might wait on that ;) I’m interested to meet them though, their commits remind me of my random experimentation when I was still figuring out how the code worked. Also, what if we just merge all the variants into XDnitroacespligrunevilguac4fourkslexbrassHack? 08:11 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 08:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 08:12 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:23 PavelB: official policy on bugs found in illegal polyinit forms is that I'll take fixes for them but won't actively do anything to fix them. 08:23 If bugs stop being found then I'll allow poly-illegal forms, tentatively, but still bar uniques. 08:32 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 08:36 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:37 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 08:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 08:51 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 709 points, T:1129, killed by a small mimic 08:58 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 08:59 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 09:06 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Staff of Aesculapius", on T:4678 09:08 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 09:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:12 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 09:18 -!- macker20 has joined #hardfought 09:18 _..._ 09:18 -!- macker20 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:23 hah 09:24 haha 09:24 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 09:24 i see what you did there 09:25 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 09:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:35 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 09:35 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll called 100 ELIB on an altar, on T:3522 09:36 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 09:36 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 09:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:37 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 09:46 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 09:57 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- belak24 has joined #hardfought 10:01 |9,1 1,9_..._0,1 10 01 1 01 1 10:01 |0,1 0 1,9.-' '-.9,1 0 1 0 0 0 10:01 -!- belak24 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:07 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:08 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6077 10:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:14 aosdict: no problem, just let me know when you'd like to see 0.4.0 online 10:14 FIQ: maybe? does FIQhack put game state in the livelog? 10:18 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:19 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] Conein (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4380 10:29 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:30 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:39 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 10:40 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- Nevolution28 has joined #hardfought 10:41 | _.--"""""--._ 10:41 | .' 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You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page. 11:52 <[Demo]> it seems like giving it a wiki page legitimizes it 11:52 indeed 11:52 <[Demo]> so the fact that there isnt one to the best of my knowledge might not be a bad thing 11:52 also, is this explore mode? if not, where did the T:1 wand of wishing come from? 11:53 * ais523 checks the other wiki to make sure it doesn't have one either 11:53 <@Luxidream> Explore mode 11:54 I can see an argument for turning off livelogging of x-mode games 11:54 if people were actively using explore mode for its intended purpose, it could get very spammy 11:55 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu), 5442 points, T:1732, killed by an invisible quasit 11:59 whatis the intended purpose of explore mode? 11:59 testing? 11:59 NAO doesn't permit explore mode at all 11:59 I've always used a local wizmode game for testing 12:00 <[Demo]> I need wise people's judgement 12:00 <[Demo]> if a role must kill a unique monster to get each new xp lvl and must reach xp lvl 30 how should livelogging of those kills be handled? 12:03 bouquet: as an "easy mode" / practice for less skilled players 12:03 <[Demo]> its good for small children 12:03 <[Demo]> where they cant spell enough for wizard mode 12:03 [Demo]: at the typical rate of livelogging it's probably safe to just livelog all of them, 30 log messages during a game isn't too bad 12:04 the possible exception is if it's front-loaded, in which case you might want to skip the first few 12:04 ah, gotit. 12:04 DCSS's livelogging approach here is to have a list of uniques that are commonly killed and to livelog kills on any of the others 12:04 <[Demo]> i dont wanna spam shit thatll piss people off 12:04 <[Demo]> itll ne 30 log messages + the additional maybe 15-20 or so 12:04 <[Demo]> thats too many but yeah hmm 12:05 <[Demo]> see im doing something kinda weird right no where the spirit deaths only livelog like 1/7 of the time 12:05 <[Demo]> but i might wanna do something where the later the game you fight the spirit the higher a chance it has of livelogging 12:05 <[Demo]> cause i want the early ones to livelog every now and then but always would be too spammy 12:10 my kids played in explore mode when they were 7-8 or so 12:10 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu), 6120 points, T:2200, killed by a rothe 12:19 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2183 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44727 12:25 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44733 12:33 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:45085 12:34 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45091 12:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:47 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6035 12:49 marathon mode is difficult 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Conein (Val Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:11080 12:56 <@Luxidream> stenno: what role 13:00 <[Demo]> marathon mode? 13:00 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45508 13:00 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45509 13:00 <@Luxidream> [Demo]: you get 999 hp 13:00 <@Luxidream> for the whole game 13:00 <[Demo]> do aols work? :P 13:01 <[Demo]> like prevent the killing blow or do they do nothing? 13:02 <@Luxidream> idk, it would kind of defeat the purpose if it did 13:07 congrats peterq! 13:08 Thanks 13:08 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45868 13:09 nice PeterQ, congrats 13:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:10 a "oLS in marathon mode should probably negate any blow that deals more than a certain fraction of your current HP (maybe ½), being consumed in the process 13:10 in addition to being consumed to block instadeaths, obviously 13:10 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Pri Syl Fem Neu), 19023 points, T:8698, killed by a mumak 13:13 <@Aetyate> Yo congrats 13:19 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:27 @luxidream valk 13:27 PeterQ: grats 13:27 @luxidream errr, sam! 13:27 Thx 13:28 @luxidream figured out that oof is infact neutral 13:30 <[Demo]> yey for half dmg 13:30 yay 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] YANI or LAUREL? (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 37456 points, T:5305, killed by a quasit 13:32 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:32 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] Conein (Val Hum Mal Law), 27492 points, T:15185, killed by a Grey-elf 13:32 <@Luxidream> stenno: wouldn't you want to play something like ranger? 13:34 <@Luxidream> they are good at avoiding damage and their low con doesn't matter in marathon mode 13:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45 @luxidream i tried sam because they have ranged weapons too 13:46 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:48 <[Demo]> god i love samurai so much after grunt 13:57 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47999 13:58 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:48029 14:02 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:48246 14:04 belated congrats elenmirie_! 14:08 thanks raisse! 14:09 Is there a way to ascend a binder on any altar than the neutral one? 14:09 dNethack binder 14:09 I don't know the answer, but I'm curious as to whether this is intended as an Astral shortcut or a stupid ascension trick 14:12 <[Demo]> PeterQ each other option is specially cased iirc 14:13 <[Demo]> ah yeah, need a non chaotic or lawful altar 14:13 More of a stupid ascencion trick, I'd rather get the amulet for the other gods than for the void 14:13 <[Demo]> lawful celestial disgraces you, chaotic disintegrates you but you might be able to survive and be foeever stuck without the amulet 14:14 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:48727 14:15 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48728 14:18 <[Demo]> anyway, dnh binder amulet sacrifice does not take your alignment into consideration 14:18 ah dammit i lost my titan 14:18 still eating 14:20 ah what the heck 14:20 somehow reading a scroll did nothing except "disappear" 14:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:20 p sure it's teleport cuz i moved by one tile 14:20 i thought 3.6.1 auto identified scroll of teleport 14:22 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 14:22 well, according to the wiki, binders don't have an alignment 14:22 what the heck 14:23 and yes, I also think teleport scroll should auto identify in 3.6.1 14:23 i had named it 14:23 not sure if that made a difference 14:23 no 14:24 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24 im playing alt.org's version 14:24 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 14:24 at any rate wtf, i removed the name, and it clearly is teleport cuz i read my cursed scroll of the same name 14:24 and i levelported 14:24 it still asked me to name it 14:24 <[Demo]> binders dont have an alignment? :P 14:25 oh 14:25 this is 3.6 what 14:26 or not 14:26 apparently V doesnt' show the actual version 14:27 ok anyway i got it figured out lol 14:28 Well, not lawful/neutral/chaotic, they can ascend on the neutral altar and use intelligent artifacts if they bind the right spirits 14:30 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 14:34 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:38 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:49084 14:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v theRaisse] by ChanServ 14:44 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:44 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1833154 points, T:49168, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1534600241.splice.txt 14:45 Anyone one know which file the code for `#monster` is in? 14:46 ugh, there are like five it could be in 14:46 it should be easy enough to trace it, cmd.c will list the name of the function implementing it, then you can grep for the function name 14:49 congrats K2 14:49 thanks 14:50 congrats K2! 14:50 gratz K2! 14:50 \o/ thanks 14:50 and you too elenmirie_ 14:51 ty 14:55 uhoh master lich 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 15143 points, T:15505, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted energy vortex 15:05 Does `resists_blnd` check if the specific monster is already blind? 15:20 UNICORNS 15:20 ARE ASSHOLES 15:20 fell on top of a gray one in soko and it killed me before I could do anything 15:21 also, got killed by the same white unicorn twice in the mines (that should be a delectable bones level if it exists) 15:21 I'm not convinced that making sokoban more lethal was a good idea, even though it was a bugfix 15:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 16:03 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 16:08 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 16:11 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:22 -!- Our has joined #hardfought 16:22 | ___ 16:22 -!- Our has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:36 -!- astag has joined #hardfought 16:37 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh343] PaciFIST (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 383 points, T:1377, killed by a coyote 16:38 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 16:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:42 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Balya on T:6712 16:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:47 <[Demo]> killed what 16:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5278 points, T:3158, killed by a rock piercer 17:05 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 17:08 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:32637 17:26 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:38 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4802 17:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:51 shoot. I found bones in a shop, blessed un-cursed everything then dropped it. Apparently I have to pay the difference for the unholy water now regular water :( 17:52 good thing I have this wand of digging! 17:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 6332 points, T:5091, killed by a giant spider 17:53 haha 17:56 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:10 -!- astag has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22 rip 18:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:35 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:37 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:40 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 18:45 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh4] tizakit (Sam Hum Mal Law), 25307 points, T:1329, killed by a magic missile, while praying 19:05 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:11 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Nethack_Extended 19:11 Will do, @Luxidream! 19:11 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict candidate for deletion? the link is dead 19:11 Will do, @Luxidream! 19:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 boots of speed", on T:12289 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11029 19:30 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 magic marker", on T:12522 19:33 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:12531 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:12981 19:40 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 19:40 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 19:46 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:12875 19:48 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:48 Belated congratulations, K2! 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] barleywine (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 13190 points, T:10734, killed by an energy vortex 19:52 after whining about not enough bones in xnh I've encounted two today already. 19:53 Rattle me bones 19:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:59 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2321 20:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 6590 points, T:2673, killed by a gnome king 20:03 also doing my part to repopulate the bones files. 20:03 no job is too small 20:07 dear misty (tolemanes) please stop wishing for +2 magic markers, you're making me cry. tyvm 20:09 <@Luxidream> He must be really confused when he can’t write anything with them 20:11 but it's got what scrolls crave! 20:11 <[Demo]> electro+2s 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:16380 20:33 "Connection to hardfought.org closed. contact the admin."? 20:34 that's K2, right? 20:36 great, now I've got the ol' "There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn]" 20:36 !tell K2 stuck xnh game again. Sorry to be a PITA. Can you clear it for me? 20:36 Will do, bouquet! 20:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:47 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 20993 points, T:19234, killed by Yeenoghu 21:09 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:34 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 21:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:47 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:54 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:56 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 21:59 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11 +2? is that for weapon effectiveness of that magic marker? 22:11 why not wish for a historic one as well 22:12 <@Luxidream> +2 gives you 2 charges 22:12 <@Luxidream> So 0:2 22:12 <[Demo]> its for spe 22:13 <@Luxidream> Can you write a scroll of mail with that even 22:13 I know spe stands for spinach/?/enchantment but what's the P 22:14 <[Demo]> stands for 22:14 <[Demo]> what 22:14 <[Demo]> isnt it just special? 22:14 I remember reading it was an acronym 22:14 I might be thinking of something else 22:25 <@shadowsapex> can you get a historic magic marker O.o 22:32 You can wish for one 22:32 It won't do anything 22:32 Historic only means anything in the context of statues 22:33 -!- tigermousr25 has joined #hardfought 22:33 Delink the sacred server 22:33 -!- tigermousr25 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 22:33 <@shadowsapex> no special property you wish for on a magic marker does anything 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh4] tizakit (Val Dwa Fem Law), 25776 points, T:2861, killed by a master mind flayer 22:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:40401 22:46 [hdf-us] [fh] Misty (Tolemanes) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:22491 22:48 @Luxidream I mean, it's still a nethack variant that existed, even if the link is dead. It'd be nice if someone somewhere had a copy of the source code, but even in its absence it shouldn't be deleted. 22:48 aosdict: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-08-25 19:11 EDT: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Nethack_Extended 22:48 aosdict: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-08-25 19:11 EDT: candidate for deletion? the link is dead 22:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:50 @Luxidream also you're lucky that my YANI parser ignores everything from Beholder, because if the logs started being flooded by characters named YANI then I would be very sad 22:51 <@Luxidream> What if I make real YANI into character names 22:51 <@Luxidream> Would you still be sad 22:53 what, like "PLAYER MONSTERS SHOULD RESIST CONFLICT" the Valkyrie? 22:59 <@Luxidream> Maybe 22:59 <@Luxidream> That last one was a one off joke though 23:00 <@Luxidream> Probably the only character ever with YANI in the name 23:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:41078 23:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:41079 23:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:41080 23:04 aosdict: did you see my pr 23:07 didn't look at it 23:07 just got back from a long day 23:10 K 23:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41273 23:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:43015 23:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:54 K2: would you say that dynahack is a maintained variant - that if bugs or other problems are discovered they will be fixed within a reasonable time frame? 23:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:43293 23:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]