00:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:10 [hdf-us] [fh] aron (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 27213 points, T:5200, killed by a gnome's ball of cold 00:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- modin8 has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- modin8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 00:18 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 55206 points, T:4614, killed by a mumak, while praying 00:21 Exactly, this is partly to give them more use. 00:23 nice patch idea: shops that are closed for inventory should sometimes open up once you're running up with the amulet of yendor 00:24 evil patch idea: previously open shops can close for inventory as well 00:26 [hdf-us] [fh] invis (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 22861 points, T:1602, killed by a dwarf zombie 00:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:33 <@Luxidream> !lastgame luxidream spl 00:33 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/splicehack/dumplog/1534433594.splice.txt 00:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:46 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:48 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26483 01:00 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:02 -!- SkIzZaTo has joined #hardfought 01:02 -!- SkIzZaTo has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:10 -!- GuntherDW25 has joined #hardfought 01:10 -!- GuntherDW25 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:14 aosdict: If grave ringing is going to be like fountain quaffing it won't be much of a reason 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] new value for name rejected (Luxidream) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 49196 points, T:8527, killed by a magic missile, while praying 01:22 <@Luxidream> !tell ais523 the go command automatically angered peaceful Yeenoghu who was not invisible, bug? 01:22 Will do, @Luxidream! 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:28526 01:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:34 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 97571 points, T:28698, killed by Yeenoghu, while praying 01:40 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 02:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- iooner2 has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- iooner2 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:30 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 02:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:32 -!- ProzacElf_ has left #hardfought 02:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:37 -!- smeggysmeg17 has joined #hardfought 02:37 -!- smeggysmeg17 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- buriedalive has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- buriedalive has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:17 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 03:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:45 -!- olspookishmagus1 has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- olspookishmagus1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- holodoc5 has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- holodoc5 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3827 04:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3444 points, T:4451, killed by a dwarf 04:32 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:49 -!- jlf2 has joined #hardfought 04:49 -!- jlf2 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- Redfoxmoon27 has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- Redfoxmoon27 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:25 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:15 -!- _itzcatalyst_ has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- _itzcatalyst_ has quit [Client Quit] 06:17 -!- Pidgeotto25 has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- Pidgeotto25 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:33 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- astag has joined #hardfought 06:38 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:42 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 06:42 -!- irina|log is now known as Guest54535 06:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:00 -!- acuzio28 has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- acuzio28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:10 @Luxidream fyi the answer to "can I edit this" is "yes" for everything I can think of. the wiki isn't really big enough to have edit wars and locked pages, though we could use those if we wanted. 07:12 of course, ideally for large pages when you're making a substantial or subjective edit you're supposed to bring it up on the talk page, but in practice nobody will read that. 07:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:20 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 07:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:39 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Val Hum Fem Law), 5500 points, T:3137, killed by a black unicorn 07:48 -!- SakiiR has joined #hardfought 07:48 -!- SakiiR has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:57 Good morning all 07:58 <@Tone> morning intro 08:05 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1005 points, T:1277, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:15 -!- boser27 has joined #hardfought 08:15 -!- boser27 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:18 -!- Guest78255 has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- Guest78255 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:24 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 429 points, T:668, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 08:27 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 82 points, T:365, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 08:29 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Con Hum Mal Cha), 6 points, T:52, killed by a fox 08:34 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:49 xNetHack updated (all servers) 08:50 yay 08:50 K2: new livelogging? can ChiefGreyBush kill his pet to see if it works? 08:52 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 08:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 08:52 yup 08:53 it needs to be a named pet 08:54 hmm 08:54 just killed my cat 08:54 lemme make sure it actually livelogged 08:54 did you change the LIVELOGFLAGS away from its default of 0xFF 08:54 well no 08:54 because this one uses a flag of 0x0100 08:54 you didnt ask em to :P 08:54 -!- diogenese14 has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- diogenese14 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:55 * aosdict mutters about reading the commit messages or changelog 08:55 easy fix 08:55 i just woke up bleh 08:55 the flags 0x1 - 0x80 were all used already 08:57 so what does the flag have to be to include this new livelog event plus everything else before? 08:57 -!- Char0n has joined #hardfought 08:57 -!- Char0n has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] ChiefGreyBush (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 20 points, T:5, killed by a falling object 09:00 and that was an older 0.2.0 game hah 09:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] ChiefGreyBush (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered Ed, his faithful kitten, on T:1 09:00 \o/ 09:00 changed LIVELOG=0xFF to 0x0FFF 09:01 per Tangles suggestion 09:04 aosdict: fixed across all 3 servers 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv astag Guest54535 introsp3ctive] by K2 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv MiseryMyra Muad stenno] by K2 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vv Tarmunora_ theRaisse] by K2 09:17 There's a possibility that this livelog will become spammy, in which case by all means turn it off. 09:17 I don't expect it to happen a lot though 09:18 i dont see it being spammy 09:18 i would think killing your own pet would be a rare event 09:19 well if someone _wanted_ to spam the channel they could slaughter an army of tame gremlins or something 09:20 i'm not overly concerned about it 09:21 we never had a problem with #shout and that was a much more likely spam target 09:21 for unintentional spamming, just think of what an extinctionist or a freak conduct player would do 09:22 * stenno fond memories of rodney spam during stthx games 09:22 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?711 09:22 We survived luxi's ascension spam ;-) 09:23 hah 09:23 stth did the most thorough extinctionist ever 09:23 including like 15 mail daemons 09:24 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:26 what is the livelog? 09:26 the mechanism that makes Beholder announce things 09:26 basically an eventlog of a game that is read by the bot 09:27 announce things that happen while a game is still in progress. not deaths, etc. which are from the xlogfile 09:28 so things like breaking a conduct, or being gifted an artifact, etc 09:28 which reminds me... 09:29 !tell AntiGulp SpliceHack does not livelog being gifted artifacts via sacrificing at an altar. is this on purpose? 09:29 Will do, K2! 09:29 Ok I thought that was what it meant but I wasn't sure if you were referring to something new and different. 09:30 ah 09:31 aosdict: really like your new livelog event regarding pets. i might borrow it for 361-hdf 09:32 I recommend you keep the stipulation that it only applies to named pets 09:32 on the basis of someone charm monster spamming might end up killing a pet they don't care for much 09:34 -!- Guest54535 is now known as irina|log 09:34 YANI: add the turn a pet was created into the edog struct, so you have a measure of how long and loyal of a relationship you have with them. 09:35 -!- Zx328 has joined #hardfought 09:35 -!- Zx328 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:37 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 09:43 but other stuf 09:43 åpoigf3xz4>zAXCVBNMJK,L.Ö-Ä' 09:43 åpoigf3xz4>zAXCVBNMJK,L.Ö-Ä'01 09:43 - 09:43 02174163 09:43 , 09:43 +/,*9+ 09:48 er what? 09:49 drunk? 09:49 I was away for a week and the place has turned into a madhouse, apparently 09:50 or probably buttdialing if he has a mobile irc client 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Conein (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 499 points, T:2101, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:59 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 10:00 <@Tone> If someone wanted to farm any of the Riders this channel would get flooded 10:00 the thought of buttdialing IRC makes me laugh 10:01 <@Tone> ha just looked at that stth qdb archive 10:02 <@Tone> I think he did 255 of everything? 10:02 <@Tone> Probably had to uses wishes skeletons and other stuff too 10:02 <@Tone> use wishes for* 10:06 @Tone you have a link to that? I'd be interested in looking it over. 10:07 It's pretty damn impressive what some people are able to do in Nethack, I have to say. 10:07 <@Tone> I was just looking at this link that stenno posted https://nhqdb.alt.org/?711 10:08 <@Tone> I think there's an rgrn post though 10:08 <@Tone> He made some ascii art with fruit names 10:10 <@Tone> introsp3ctive This faq has some good info http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/extinctionist-faq.html 10:11 @Tone thanks <3 10:11 here is the dumplog https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/stthX/1345463235.nh343.txt introsp3ctive 10:11 You used 819 wishes 10:12 How is that even remotely possible? 10:12 with a _lot_ of time 10:12 and pudding farming 10:13 introsp3ctive: Kill an extinctionist worth of monsters, get an extinctionist worth of death drops 10:13 crazy. 10:13 it was really mostly pudding farming though heh 10:14 so wow has 6 wishes on average 10:14 so deducting other sources of wishes, thats about 120 WoWs 10:15 that's a whattayacall ergodic game 10:15 you can just input the probability for magic lamps and smoky potions and be pretty close 10:15 you have to keep in mind that 3.4.3 pudding farming was literally "get any objects you like, given infinite time" 10:16 You don't have infinite time. 10:17 i'd say that most of the time, infinite time is not needed 10:17 as shown by stthx's ascension, for example 10:17 I suppose in the modern idiom "literally" does mean "not literally" :-/ 10:18 my statement is still correct 10:19 <@Tone> only around 1.5 million turns, really 😄 10:20 get any objects you like, given at most infinite time 10:20 better? 10:20 if i said i wanted an infinite number of WoWs, it'd take me infinite time 10:21 <[Demo]> i want to set up giant farming 10:21 <@Tone> I'm not nitpicking what you said, just impressed by his turn count 10:21 if i only need one wow, it probably takes up a few minutes 10:21 i know 10:21 <[Demo]> are you doing automated pudding farming for that few minutes? 10:21 <@Tone> The giant farm I saw was really impressive 10:22 <@Tone> Had a macro that would teleport to the loot piles and stashes and manage items 10:22 <@Tone> In between killing thousands of giants 10:22 <[Demo]> was it fully automated giant farming? 10:22 <@Tone> Yeah 10:22 <[Demo]> yeah would have to do that on asc run or nao 10:22 <[Demo]> cant do stuff like that on hdf 10:23 <@Tone> It was on NAO 10:24 <@Tone> You might want to let dtype know before trying something like that 10:25 I recall fisted doing some kind of farming in 3.6.0 using a polearm and an angry titan on the wizard quest goal level 10:25 <@Tone> Yeah that's the game I'm referring to 10:27 <@Tone> I think he was the angry titan :P 10:28 <[Demo]> oh it was goal level, not home? 10:29 <@Tone> Yeah, he did it from the altar iirc 10:29 <@Luxidream> he was a Titan so he could teleport to the boulder square right? 10:30 <@Tone> Yep 10:30 <@Tone> To get the death drops 10:30 <[Demo]> i assume he was surrounded by sessile monsters? 10:31 <[Demo]> and the boulder was a knights jump away? 10:31 <[Demo]> would have to do it in such a way you avoid all ranged attacks 10:32 <@Tone> Yep, exactly 10:32 <[Demo]> wizard can get skilled in polearm? 10:33 <@Tone> Yep 10:35 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 10:37 <@Luxidream> Now I'm wondering what the worst bones you can leave is, without being completely unfair 10:38 <@Luxidream> assuming infinite wishes 10:38 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38 talk to porkman about it 10:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:42 <@Luxidream> Looks like the guy put L in his bones? 10:42 <@Luxidream> Seems kind of unfair to me 10:43 <@Tone> I think messing with the map would be the most annoying. Imagine going to dlvl 4 and the entire room around the downstairs was full of land mines, or every tile on the map was filled with water except for the two stairs 10:43 <@Tone> mines around the upstair I mean* 10:44 <@Tone> Fill the map with acid blobs 10:45 <@Tone> I just remembered I need to turn off bones on my account 😄 10:47 fill the map with gas spores 10:48 oh wait I guess that's not feasible 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] lel (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2126 points, T:543, killed by a hill orc 10:48 <@Tone> ha that would be satisfying 10:49 a room full of gas spores would still be fun 10:50 <[Demo]> fill the map with archons 10:51 <@Tone> YASI: Special room that is full of gas spores 10:51 -!- NeddySeagoon23 has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- NeddySeagoon23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:51 one should avoid metal armor as a healer right? 10:52 <@Tone> Depends astag 10:52 if you're doing a lot of spellcasting, yes 10:52 <@Tone> It will hurt your spellcasting, yes 10:52 if you're one of those unfortunate healers that start with 4 Pw you might as well wear mithril until you've leveled up 10:52 <@Tone> But it might not hurt it a lot or you may simply value the ac more 10:55 -!- Tangles has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:55 <@Luxidream> I forgot about land mines 10:55 <@Luxidream> Even worse than pits lmao 10:55 you get a free pit with every land mine 10:56 <@Luxidream> Evil bones idea: you can see a tool shop from the starting room, filled with bells, tin openers, oil lamps, and land mines 10:59 <@Tone> haha 11:00 <@Luxidream> I also wish there was some way to leave peacefuls in bones 11:00 <@Luxidream> then I could make trolltown 11:01 <@Luxidream> with similarly outfitted shops 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] Conein (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 1006 points, T:3173, killed by a rothe 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4125 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Silver2195 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1530 points, T:4137, killed by a gold golem 11:26 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 11:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 11:33 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 11:47 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:48 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:48 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 22470 points, T:19274, killed by a giant ant 11:54 -!- OGF3 has joined #hardfought 11:54 -!- OGF3 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:00 [hdf-us] [dyn] Cancer Mage (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 844 points, T:4102, killed by a priestess of Anhur 12:00 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 29547 points, T:6240, quit 12:02 <@Luxidream> TIL: drums of earthquake are the same base price 12:02 <[Demo]> as leather? 12:02 <@Luxidream> yes 12:03 <@Luxidream> pissed off all of minetown, including the priest 12:03 <@Luxidream> got super tilted so I killed myself 12:03 <[Demo]> can unbreathing races and poly forms play the horn or other wind instruments? 12:05 don't think so 12:05 there was a bug related to it 12:06 <[Demo]> so they can in 3.4.3? 12:06 <@Luxidream> I don't think they can 12:06 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 22602 points, T:707, killed by a giant mimic 12:08 spoiler bug 1 (!) for 3.4.3: 12:08 SC343-1FixedMonsters that can't blow can still use a whistle. 12:08 derp 12:09 SC343-1 Fixed Monsters that can't blow can still use a whistle. 12:10 i like how it's a spoiler bug but its still really vague 12:10 does that mean unbreathing? or maybe headless? 12:12 <[Demo]> could be headless 12:12 <[Demo]> but what doesn't have a head and isn't unbreathing ? 12:12 stenno: does unnethack block horizontal teleportation while carrying the Amulet? 12:12 <[Demo]> and has the hands to apply? 12:12 aosdict: yes 12:12 <[Demo]> what is force replaced with in xnh? 12:13 demo: ask antigulp about headless horsemen 12:13 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13 <[Demo]> heh 12:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:14 headless horsemen are easy. it's the goddam nightmares that you have to watch out for 12:14 <[Demo]> antigulp doesn't always do the best job making sure his new monsters have the right flags and there are places where you can take advantage of it for sure 12:14 hence why i said ask 12:15 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:15 [Demo]: blockage of horizontal teleportation. but I wasn't sure if that originally came from unnethack 12:16 <[Demo]> do wished eggs get the laid by you set or how do you get tame pets from wished eggs? 12:16 <[Demo]> also do egg wishes use statue restrictions or figurine restrictions? 12:16 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:18 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:21 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:22 aosdict: also it does the nifty spawn-monsters-on-upstairs thing 12:23 raisse: stenno: apparently someone in my family saw it fit to mess with my keyboard 12:23 ah.. 12:23 was the person 2 years old? 12:23 I guess I forgot to lock the computer 12:24 And/or a cat? 12:25 hey FIQ, when you have some time can you test something in the vanilla + getobj patch? 12:25 Sure, what? 12:26 Hrogart found a bug in xnh and I think that it came from that but I'm not certain. They were trying to play with force_invmenu turned on, and this caused an inescapable menu to pop up. 12:27 Yeah, just reproed in current xnethack 12:27 I don't even know what force_invmenu is supposed to do 12:27 I saw the option and tried to replicate vanilla behaviour whenever it was concerned 12:27 oh it looks like that's new in 3.6.1 12:28 it probably interferes with the getobj patch / menustyle somehow 12:28 is that the same as perm_invent ? 12:28 It interferes with getobj 12:28 But I don't quite know exactly what it is for 12:28 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:28 stenno: No, force_invmenu IIRC forces the inventory right away instead of giving a "use what? [abc]" 12:28 "Commands asking for an inventory item show a menu instead of a text query with possible menu letters." 12:28 Right 12:29 Hm 12:29 oh ok 12:29 -!- x49F has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- x49F has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:29 In that case, I should make it so that force_invmenu enforces legacy behaviour 12:29 in regards to floor stuff 12:29 aosdict: What is the bug exactly? 12:29 So, the behavior I'm seeing is I hit e, the menu pops right up, and I can eat food off the menu... but I can't hit esc or space 12:30 Is this it? Or isi it something else? 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 377 points, T:1886, killed by a giant bat 12:30 *is 12:30 Hmm 12:30 oh, also somehow Hrogart found an infinite loop in "Not carrying anything to foo. Not carrying anything to foo. Not carrying anything to foo." etc 12:30 nice 12:30 whatever the cause is, it's probably the same thing 12:30 Mhm 12:31 basically force_invmenu messes up aborting 12:31 sounds like the problem 12:32 aosdict: my xnh game crashed. I started and it says my game is still in progress, destroy old game? 12:32 I don't think I was ever able to reproduce those in pure vanilla 12:32 bouquet: cause of crash? K2: any crash info? 12:33 display was bugging out just before. Saw a long string of ^C^C^C^C^C... in the log 12:33 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:33 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:33 !who 12:33 bouquet: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [nh4] ahrimen [fh] ptaff [nh361] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh361] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:34 problem with ansi-term escape sequences? 12:34 that'd be hilarious 12:35 OK if I have to go back to my last save point since I just started. My purple worm menagerie is my most prized possesssion. 12:35 ugh the problem with having curses available is that I never know if I did something wrong or Tangles did something wrong 12:35 I blame Tangles 12:35 or, somewhat recently, the devteam did something wrong that Tangles exposed 12:36 to my knowledge 12:36 the only serious issue with curses in 3.6.x is perm_invent 12:36 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 12:36 and it isn't even curses' fault apparently 12:36 was that fixed? 12:36 bouquet: no error messages then, nothing in game acting weirdly? 12:36 <[Demo]> i dont get why ppl willingly play curses 12:36 they should play with blessings instead 12:36 <[Demo]> its buggy and it doesnt look like nethack 12:36 EPI: playing with the curses interface gives you a rndcurse() every 1000 turns 12:36 <[Demo]> its too fancy 12:37 why does freenode still have spam issues 12:37 it has been what, a week? 12:38 no 12:38 it has been 2 12:38 because irc makes it quite easy to botnet in as someone who could be a legitimate unregistered user or could be a spammer 12:39 yeah but 12:39 what took so long 12:39 for someone to actually start doing it persistently 12:39 money? 12:39 perhaps 12:39 running a botnet consistently for this length of time can't be cheap 12:40 er, renting 12:40 aosdict: it didn't show an error before it just quit. 12:40 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:41 [Demo]: I play curses for 1 reason only... more lines in the event log at the top of the screen. If I could get 10 lines of gameplay in vanilla I'd forgo Tangles' curses interface. 12:41 it isn' 12:41 t Tangles' 12:42 well I guess it kind of is at this point 12:42 since the original maintainer is AWOL 12:42 "Tangles reimplementation of the classic curses UI" 12:43 bouquet: hm maybe segfault then. I hope K2 has more details 12:43 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 784 points, T:2057, killed by a gnome king 12:44 <[Demo]> damn you and having a good reason 12:44 Thanks, aosdict. I need to disappear for the rest of the day so I'll check back tomorrow. 12:45 I think this happened last time around while I was on my way back up. 12:49 and hoooow was the monk quest?? 12:49 <@Luxidream> demo: I use curses when I'm speed running so I don't have to esc through 100 pages of spam 12:49 <@Luxidream> every time it happens 12:55 <[Demo]> damn yet another reason dont do this to me :P 13:03 omg ;( 13:06 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:07 <@mtf> that's a lot of empty space 13:07 <@mtf> ... or not, I think discord is wigging out xD 13:08 -!- woodface has joined #hardfought 13:08 -!- woodface has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:16 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 13:17 -!- Guest72310 has joined #hardfought 13:17 -!- Guest72310 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:20 -!- verm1n29 has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- verm1n29 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:21 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 13:27 k2: some voices please 13:28 or fiq 13:28 * aosdict gives hothraxxa a megaphone 13:28 wait, I can read what you're writing 13:28 and am not op 13:28 not for me 13:29 hothraxxa is +v, perhaps they are asking on behalf of others 13:29 Chris_ANG eg. noty, bug_sniper, etc etc 13:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [-v hothraxxa] by FIQ 13:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by FIQ 13:31 there, now you have a voice 13:32 Do I need a voice? I thought IDing to services was enough? 13:32 Chris_ANG: it is. 13:32 but we can't tell 13:32 Ah 13:33 they're both authed 13:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvvv tacco| attie introsp3ctive bug_sniper] by FIQ 13:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvvv noty Chris_ANG theRaisse deadnoob] by FIQ 13:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Tarmunora_] by FIQ 13:33 * Chris_ANG tips hat 13:34 thanks fiq 13:34 vvvvvvv 13:35 vvvvvv 13:36 FIQ: is getobj patch possibly responsible for having garbage characters in the available letters? 13:36 context? 13:36 printscreen or something 13:37 too late I accidentally went past, but basically "What do you want to eat? [de5}[# or ?*]" 13:37 # is not a garbage character 13:38 is this what you saw 13:38 (replace those punctuations with stuff outside the ascii range) 13:38 oh 13:38 ok 13:38 well 13:38 I suppose it is a possibility 13:38 if you get it again, feel free to give me the save and tell me how to repro 13:39 also I remembered what instructions Hrogart provided for reproducing that infinite loop: stand on top of a corpse with no food in inventory and hit e 13:39 with force_invmenu on of course 13:39 right, with force_invmenu 13:39 I figured that out from what you said earlier 13:40 Not carrying anything and esc ends up in the same place 13:40 so if it can't abort, it gets stuck 13:40 so what's the proper fix 13:42 the problem is that first is never unset 13:42 in getobj 13:44 add first = FALSE; in the else for the "else if (iflags.force_invmenu) {" block 13:44 I can do that I guess 13:45 ther 13:45 e 13:45 pushed 13:45 at some point you may also want to re-merge vanilla. there are some nasty merge conflicts to satisfy 13:45 on account of PatR and the sortloot fixes which touched getobj 13:46 merge where 13:47 with the 3.6.0 branch? 13:47 well I dunno if you're trying to keep up with the 3.6.2 commits 13:47 I haven't touched nethack stuff for months 13:47 not sure what is the most up to date 13:47 ah, 3.6.2 13:47 I guess I can do that 13:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:59 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:05 holy crap 14:05 i go downstairs in 2nd gehennom level and there's geyron on the upstairs at 55/144 hp 14:05 after i dispatch him i put on a blindfold and i'm on baalzebub's level 14:05 and there's baalzebub and dispater apparently gloating over derple's ghost 14:06 * hothraxxa looks at luxidream 14:06 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 14:06 that's you isn't it? 14:07 oh he's not here 14:07 try on discord 14:08 i don't do discord. not important, just thought it must have been an epic battle 14:08 no I mean, @Luxidream! I summon thee! 14:09 ^ that 14:09 ah. yeah he'll see that regardless won't he 14:09 <@rikersan> yep 14:09 <@rikersan> he's not here atm tho 14:09 will he still get pinged if I leave it all lowercase 14:09 does discord care about case 14:10 <@rikersan> yes 14:10 <@rikersan> it autocorrects I believe 14:10 <@rikersan> you can try with me if you want 14:10 <@rikersan> @rikersan 14:10 <@rikersan> yeah it changes it 14:10 @Rikersan 14:10 @rIkErSaN 14:10 <@rikersan> ya you're good 14:11 <@rikersan> same exact thing 14:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:20 -!- honu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:27 The bolt of fire hits it. But it reflects from the invisible Dispater's armor! 14:27 hm. 14:28 The invisible Dispater wields a long sword named Excalibur! The long sword named Excalibur welds itself to the invisible Dispater's hand! 14:28 bugger must have picked derple's bones 14:30 Tested in vanilla, the "it" does not get revealed 14:31 that was his fire bolt bouncing around 14:31 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 14:33 i can't hit him while wearing my gdsm :( 14:33 <@Luxidream> hothraxxa: derple was a speedrun attempt 14:33 <@Luxidream> I think that one suicided for being too slow 14:33 well it was quite the suicide 14:34 <@rikersan> I feel like dispater shouldn't be able to wield excalibur anyway 14:34 <@rikersan> cuz last I checked it aggravates him 14:34 <@Luxidream> he is lawful though 14:34 well he's not giving it up now, it's welded to his hand 14:34 <@Luxidream> therefore he is good person 14:34 <@rikersan> yes, but excalibur should be special 14:34 <@Luxidream> accordint to nethack 14:34 <@rikersan> lol 14:35 a valk 14:35 with the amulet 14:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:35 good loot here. never found post sanctum bones before 14:36 welp, i can just go sacrifice this here amulet on the astral plane now. no need for rodney 14:37 you carry the invocation items eh? why? 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 18 points, T:55, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a trap 14:37 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:37 <@Luxidream> no time to drop them 14:37 <@Luxidream> 😛 14:38 <@Luxidream> :p 14:38 <@Luxidream> I use bell of opening in sanctum and candlabrum on astral 14:39 <@Luxidream> so usually I forget to drop them unless the amulet burdens me 14:40 some variant gives a trophy for them in junethack, otherwise i always drop them 14:40 <@Luxidream> just looked at the dumplog 14:40 <@Luxidream> most of the loot is garbage 14:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:41 <@Luxidream> since you probably don't need the rings 14:43 i don't 14:43 haha i just uncursed my own boh 14:58 -!- m4v5 has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- m4v5 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 15:08 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 15:22 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:5938 15:23 -!- dell30 has quit [Client Quit] 15:24 -!- dell30 has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6576 15:29 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG dear god I hate git sometimes. it's giving me stupid freaking merge conflicts cuz of nero's spell change PR and my compile warning PR both changing spell.c. do you know how to fix that without doing the merge thing? (which doesn't work, i already tried and then had to git revert / reset) 15:29 Will do, @rikersan! 15:32 -!- Stryyker13 has joined #hardfought 15:32 -!- Stryyker13 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:33 -!- dell30 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:39 Tangles_: is there an easy way to make 3.6.1hdf propmt me for a character name offline instead of using my pc username or name in nethackrc? 15:39 <@rikersan> you can always run it with the -u name flag 15:39 I'm not Tangles_ but no, you'll have to make an account in the name you want 15:40 <@rikersan> try nethack -u username 15:40 <@rikersan> or nethack -u mycharacterisnamedthis 15:40 you can't do that in hdf 15:40