00:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:28480 00:06 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 1628 points, T:1653, killed by a killer bee 00:11 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 00:18 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Rog Ang Fem Law), 286 points, T:1194, killed by a small mimic 00:38 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 t-shirt", on T:30222 00:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:30230 00:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:30231 00:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class U, on T:30232 00:46 -!- Guest67900 has joined #hardfought 00:46 -!- Guest67900 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 00:47 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30470 01:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:31458 01:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:31717 01:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class z, on T:31728 01:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:43 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:46 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- purrdeta16 has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- purrdeta16 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:11 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp some ideas for cartomancer https://pastebin.com/JdhFjWrY 02:11 Will do, @Luxidream! 02:13 YASI: cartomancers also have a trump card that builds walls and stuff :D 02:19 <@Luxidream> @le?trump 02:19 <@Luxidream> @le? trump 02:20 <@Luxidream> @le? donald trump 02:25 he does exist as a boss, but sadly the bot (Pinobot; Beholder should be working) seems to still be down 02:25 !ping 02:25 LarienTelrunya: Pong! 02:25 <@Luxidream> zruty 02:25 !who 02:25 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh361] | [hdf-au] No current players 02:41 Evil Patch idea for dnethack: since we have an elder priest, why not make all the other temple priests into "younger priests" which are slightly weaker than elder priests but still far more dangerous than regular aligned priests? :D 02:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:45 speaking of which, I just realized that slex's elder priest has a bug where one of his attacks is not as dangerous as intended 02:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:18 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 03:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33 -!- piklu1 has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- piklu1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 03:42 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 03:52 -!- orb has joined #hardfought 03:52 -!- orb has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:46 -!- lagbox20 has joined #hardfought 04:46 -!- lagbox20 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:57 -!- gpolitis has joined #hardfought 04:57 -!- gpolitis has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:05 -!- hf_guest_76855 has joined #hardfought 05:29 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 917 points, T:1611, killed by a bat 05:32 -!- hf_guest_76855 has left #hardfought 05:35 -!- tungtn_ is now known as tungtn 06:02 Your movements are slowed slightly because of your load. The blast of disintegration hits it. The blast of disintegration hits you!--More-- 06:02 wew 06:02 i got too excited to loot an insane bones 06:02 was reflection shield on it, but this is same turn i picked it up 06:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:06 net gain 06:07 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1106 points, T:2639, killed by a magic missile 06:11 ah that makes sense, two black dragons 06:24 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 758 points, T:1319, killed by a small mimic 06:31 -!- Sigyn has quit [Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.] 06:32 -!- Sigyn has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Sigyn] by ChanServ 06:38 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 949 points, T:1266, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a potion 07:03 -!- kasa has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- kasa has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:14 -!- astag has joined #hardfought 07:15 hey guys, im trying to compile nethack 3.6.1 hdf on windows with vs2017, but im getting a couple errors: 07:15 13>options.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _curses_read_attrs referenced in function _parseoptions 07:15 13>windows.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _curses_procs 07:15 13>C:\Users\username\Documents\NetHack\NetHack36-hardfought\win\win32\vs2017\..\..\..\bin\Debug\Win32\NetHack.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 2 unresolved externals 07:16 anybody know what to do here? 07:21 -!- nkk71 has joined #hardfought 07:21 -!- nkk71 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:28 -!- EXCEPTS has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- EXCEPTS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36 -!- nengel has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- SolarAquarion26 has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- SolarAquarion26 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:41 -!- nengel has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:43 -!- nengel has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- nengel has quit [Client Quit] 07:51 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) were chosen to steal souls for your god's glory!, on T:29672 07:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v astag] by K2 07:52 astag: unless you're registered on freenode, no one (except OP) saw your messages 07:53 and as far as I know, no one has ever tried compiling 361-hdf on anything other than linux 07:53 unfortunately I dont have an answer for you :/ 07:53 but, there's a couple ppl in here that might be able to point you in right direction 07:54 FYI you're voiced now so everyone can see your chat 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv [Demo] bug_sniper captain42] by K2 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv Chris_ANG dtype introsp3ctive] by K2 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv LarienTelrunya lonjil MiseryMyra] by K2 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv Muad nooodle Pinkbeast] by K2 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+vvv ProzacElf stenno Tarmunora] by K2 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v tungtn] by K2 07:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:00 yeah i was already registered, so that means it was visible? 08:02 yes, I can see the messages too 08:03 yup 08:03 okay thanks 08:03 i have no way to tell if you are or arent so I made the assumption 08:04 by the way, how come registration on hardfought is not possible currently 08:07 you mean the website/messageboard? 08:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:08 yes, isn 08:08 't that where you must register to play 08:09 no 08:09 oh 08:09 registration to play is via dgl (dgamelaunch) 08:09 that's working fine 08:09 oh okay thanks 08:09 np 08:09 thought it was like alt 08:10 i should probably put something on the main page stating that 08:10 i killed registration on the website because no one was using the msgboards anymore and its not anything necessary really 08:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:14 hm i registered on nethack@hardfought.com but that seems to have put me on US automatically, and i'd like to play on EU servers 08:14 oh, just saw that it refreshes every 5 min, pardon me 08:15 ;) 08:15 yeah it'll sync here in a couple min 08:16 you'll want to ssh to nethack@eu.hardfought.org 08:16 hmm help page doesnt mention the sync either... 08:16 well 08:16 i have some tidying up to do 08:17 haha :) 08:21 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated Croesus, on T:30716 08:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:31 i know i've been spamming this chat a lot, but one more thing, is it not possible to use the online rcedit for eu rcfiles? 08:31 you're not spamming, its all good 08:32 rcedit only works for hdf us server right now, but you can sync your us rcfile over to the eu and au servers 08:32 you'll see the option to do that in the dgl menu 08:33 * K2 reminds himself to setup rcediting for eu and au servers 08:33 web editing rather 08:33 thanks, youve been very helpful and i appreciate that 08:34 glad to help 08:53 -!- Colti24 has joined #hardfought 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has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:35 <@rikersan> peter is dedicated, I'll give him that 11:35 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp victory tokens don't display properly in containers and inventory 11:35 Will do, @Luxidream! 11:37 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 11053 points, T:4960, killed by a giant praying mantis 11:37 bullshit 11:38 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp You see here a lichen corpse (9 victory chipss) 11:38 Will do, @Luxidream! 11:38 oh man 11:38 two cursed bags of holding 11:38 full of stuff 11:38 i don't dare even #tip 11:38 i know they full cuz both will strain me 11:39 er, both not at the same time 11:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:45 -!- ipv64 has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- ipv64 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:58 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 12:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:12 -!- qew has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- qew has quit [Killed 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groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42687 13:46 astag: Theoretically yes, but no one's actually tried and reported their results 13:47 i tried, following a guide on compiling nethack fith mingw, and got a load of error messages 13:48 Sounds about right 13:48 haha, all i want is to be able to play nethack 3.6.1 with curses ui offline :( 13:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:00 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated the high priestess of Moloch, on T:42892 14:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:02 -!- Captain_Beezay has joined #hardfought 14:03 -!- Captain_Beezay has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 14:22 -!- badseed has joined #hardfought 14:22 -!- badseed has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 14:29 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:38 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) reached the Plane of Earth, on T:44853 14:51 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:45054 14:52 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:43134 14:57 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 stormbringer", on T:45078 14:58 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45079 15:00 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45089 15:01 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45091 15:01 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45091 15:01 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45092 15:01 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45092 15:02 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45096 15:02 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "3 dilithium crystals", on T:45098 15:05 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 262450 points, T:45098, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/groovejumper/nhfourk/dumps/2018-08-16%2019%3A05%3A10%2C%20groovejumper-Wiz-Syl-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 15:11 <@Luxidream> Congratulations groovejumper 15:17 -!- if`m has joined #hardfought 15:17 -!- if`m has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:31 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:49 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:55 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of regeneration", on T:44719 15:59 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:01 im kind of bitter over my last game 16:01 well not really 16:01 but wew i dun goofed good 16:01 classic let's walk into zoo as valk and pretend we're invincible 16:02 woulda survived if it weren't for nymph stealing my shield of reflection with an elf zapping me with sleep 16:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:11 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41 -!- smeggysmeg8 has joined #hardfought 16:41 -!- smeggysmeg8 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:59 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 16:59 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:47558 17:01 <@Luxidream> !lastgame 361 17:01 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winny/nh361/dumplog/1534314535.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/astag/nh361/dumplog/1534444528.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Crim/nh361/dumplog/1532717635.nh361.txt 17:01 i deserved it 17:01 i was getting too cocky 17:01 i took distegration to the face earlier 17:02 lost my GDSM but gained (from loot i picked up same turn) reflec shield, GDSM +3, yadda yadda 17:02 two black dragons dlvl8 17:02 i forgot to thank whoever's bones were those 17:03 huh, neither here 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 125577 points, T:17738, killed by an energy vortex 17:13 <@Luxidream> Cat purrson had an ascension kit I think 17:14 <@Luxidream> they choked pretty hard though unfortunately 17:14 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:48249 17:18 <@rikersan> damnit I am impressed 17:18 <@rikersan> peterq splatted so many convicts 17:18 <@rikersan> but it looks like he's finally got a good one 17:35 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] brandywine (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 12449 points, T:11320, killed by a skeleton 17:38 <@Tone> winny Not sure what woke everything up but you would have been fine otherwise 17:41 @Tone - u watched the ttyrec? 17:42 i think it was the mordor orc initially 17:43 <@Tone> No I just looked at the dumplog 18:03 ah :) 18:13 -!- gildarts3 has joined #hardfought 18:13 -!- gildarts3 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:22 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 18:40 <@Luxidream> @le?sans 18:47 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I feel like kusangi is a bit OP 18:47 Will do, @rikersan! 18:51 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG didn't mean to hit enter there, but context; I just splatted an astral human samurai. the entire planes was stupid easy via duel wielding +7 kiku and kusangi. on earth I think I used the QA but for teh most part kusangi and kiku was great. it's stupid amounts of damage. also, should snickersnee be nameable at lvl 30 for samurai? it isn't rn so 18:51 Will do, @rikersan! 18:55 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 18:59 -!- astag has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00 <@Demo> astral splat how? 19:03 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1374 points, T:1270, killed by a coyote 19:06 -!- Guest97128 has joined #hardfought 19:06 -!- Guest97128 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:08 <@rikersan> @Demo I tried to do astral with alacriy and conflict instead of free action 19:08 <@Demo> ah 19:08 <@rikersan> ya 19:08 <@rikersan> boots were flying / mud 19:08 <@rikersan> I figured I'd be ok 19:09 <@rikersan> but I wasn't 19:09 <@rikersan> so 19:09 <@Demo> dnh needs more flying sources 19:09 <@rikersan> ya 19:09 <@Demo> if theres 1 thing ive learned from other people dying in dnh is never go without free action 19:09 <@rikersan> ya 19:10 <@rikersan> i had lamashtu as well 19:10 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 515 points, T:665, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:10 <@rikersan> I avoided her but still 19:10 <@rikersan> first time i've ever seen her in game 19:10 <@rikersan> (she was gated) 19:12 <@Demo> you never get her in brine? 19:12 <@rikersan> not yet at least 19:12 <@rikersan> I've found demo once, dagon rest 19:13 <@Demo> ive had to push through lamashtu's level during the monster wielding a blessed weapon segfault version 19:55 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:10 -!- Connection has joined #hardfought 20:10 -!- Connection has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 20:11 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53242 20:12 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53247 20:31 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:102474 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:102489 20:51 Snickersnee shouldn't be nameable. 20:51 Chris_ANG: Messages from @rikersan have been forwarded to you privately. 20:52 Kusanagi was designed to be OP, and should probably be nerfed or cut, along with the Wizard stuff. 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:102679 20:53 Both of those things were, however, added on the theory that if you have a lvl 30 samurai or wizard, balance is already out the window so the player might as well have a bit of fun. 20:53 <@Demo> i like that mindset 20:54 The kusanagi could probably be pulled back more into line with Excalibur, though I'm not sure if it's too far from that already. 20:55 If it's just 2x with some special effects vs. E I don't think it's too OP. 20:55 <@Demo> its not 2x 20:55 <@Demo> now you did determine at +12 it does roughly 2x dmg output 20:56 <@rikersan> it's instakill vs all E so 20:56 <@rikersan> that's super powerful 20:56 <@Demo> not really? 20:56 <@Demo> by lvl 30 as a sam no E, not even an in home one is gonna be able to do much 20:56 Oh, hey. Yeah, that's already been pulled back to Excal level. 20:56 <@Demo> just makes it slightly less annoying in planes 20:57 <@Demo> not really removing any difficulty? 20:57 <@rikersan> idk 20:57 <@rikersan> fwiw, it doesn't instakill lethe E 20:57 It also has Vorpal, which is not a huge boost to average damage. 20:57 <@rikersan> is that by design? 20:57 <@Demo> lethe E is missing MA_ELEMENTAL 20:57 <@rikersan> demo: it beheds so 20:57 <@rikersan> oh hm 20:58 <@Demo> should lethe E have MA_ELEMENTAL flag? 20:58 Um.... 20:58 <@Demo> oh no they do 20:58 <@Demo> are you sure it doesnt instakill? 20:58 <@Demo> thats all it checks... 20:58 <@rikersan> it doesn't instakill 20:58 <@rikersan> so 20:59 <@rikersan> I tried in my game and again in wizmode rn 20:59 <@rikersan> it doesn't 20:59 <@Demo> well hmm thought that was all it checked, instakills everything else that is MA_ELEMENTAL 21:00 It specifically checks for certain monsters. 21:00 <@rikersan> oh does it 21:00 <@rikersan> so that's by design then 21:00 <@rikersan> idea: lethe elementals become a tame aoa droplet 21:01 <@Demo> why does it work on Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses? 21:01 <@Demo> oh is she whirly or something? 21:01 well, anything that is whirly() is instakilled, which catches... most?... v and Air Elementals, 21:01 <@Demo> oh yep unsolid 21:01 ...and I guess Illurien XD 21:02 <@rikersan> ahhhh 21:02 <@rikersan> lol 21:02 <@rikersan> didn't know about illurien 21:02 <@Demo> so lethe elemental ought be whirly? 21:02 Nah 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:102905 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:102907 21:02 It then checks flaming() which catches Fire Elementals and a few other things (flaming spheres?), 21:03 then checks for Earth Elementals and Water Elementals directly. 21:03 Lethe Elementals are hard, lore wise. 21:03 <@Demo> ah 21:04 <@Demo> what do you think the best way is to deal with the mongone issue not triggering corpse_chance which handles a lot of important on game removal thing for a lot of new dnh things? 21:05 <@rikersan> aw I like instakilling them 21:05 For the most part, not handling it. 21:05 <@rikersan> anyway, it's pretty dang strong 21:05 <@rikersan> esp. on air 21:05 <@rikersan> it just wipes through everything but the dragons 21:05 <@Demo> ahazu can take out illurien without setting her timer 21:05 That's fine. 21:05 <@Demo> and it fucks up livelogs too for any sort of unique or whatever 21:05 <@Demo> also prevents chaos from spawning 21:06 That's.... 21:06 The livelog thing is the worst problem, hm.... 21:06 <@Demo> various spirits and silence glaive use mongone, think the restrictions on most of the sources prevent any real issues 21:07 <@Demo> but abduction is ruthless 21:07 <@rikersan> wow 21:07 <@rikersan> this is really bugged 21:07 <@rikersan> lol 21:07 Chaos not being spawned is also... something of a problem. 21:07 <@rikersan> should abduction also drop artifacts instead of destroying them? 21:07 <@rikersan> I feel like the only real way to do that should be unknown god 21:07 <@Demo> mongone might do that i think 21:07 Yes, it should. 21:07 <@Demo> its the same as if you genocided it 21:08 Hm, artifacts may not be protected, actually, but invocation items should be. 21:08 <@rikersan> they are as-is 21:08 <@rikersan> I did check that 21:08 <@rikersan> and annulus, silver key, and pen of the void 21:09 <@Demo> whats the way of dealing with giving a xorn in soko the book of the dead, zapping him with a wand of teleport way off the map, and then genociding xorns? 21:09 <@rikersan> unique items and those 3 artis can't be nuked by abduction, everythign else seems to be tho 21:09 <@rikersan> what 21:09 "Don't do that" ;) 21:10 <@Demo> just seems nice to try to prevent any sort of possible attempt to break the game 21:10 <@rikersan> ^ 21:11 <@Demo> i dont think even vanilla addresses that though 21:11 Better level loading? Does the teleport code respect no pass wall when picking a landing spot? 21:12 <@Demo> i think theres only a ring of them or something 21:12 <@Demo> and beyond it is perfectly phasable wall 21:12 <@rikersan> btw chris do you mind merging all of the outstanding PRs 21:12 I'm scared of the compile fix one XD 21:12 <@rikersan> or actually, feel free to ignore mine and 2 of nero's 21:13 <@rikersan> oh no that one was tested rigorously 21:13 <@rikersan> but fix the wands and artinames 21:13 <@rikersan> (has the segfault on command bug been fixed btw?) 21:13 <@rikersan> side note: @Demo you can get free inventory ID's with segfaults 21:13 <@Demo> how? :P 21:13 <@rikersan> use the spellbook ward reading bug 21:13 <@Demo> oh that 21:13 <@rikersan> just enter a level and save the game 21:13 <@rikersan> it worked great when I read-id'd destroy armor on my +5 oilskin 21:14 <@Demo> there are much better ways to abuse such an easy segfault 21:14 <@Demo> find a throne 21:14 <@Demo> the end lol 21:14 <@rikersan> oh true 21:14 <@rikersan> but still 21:14 <@Demo> or a fountain if you are patient enough 21:15 <@Demo> also that version isnt on a server and if i wanted to cheat locally id just play wizard mode 21:15 <@rikersan> lol 21:16 PavelB: further YANIs for possible grave prayer effects (I'm thinking that doing it will effectively give you a one-time random effect, some of which are good and some are bad): grave cracks open and spits out any buried items, spirit polys you into an undead argh 21:17 <@rikersan> anyway chris tbh I made that PR for my own sanity 21:17 <@rikersan> feel free to not merge tho I'd be kinda sad, if you could at least fix the 1 error that would be great (include/system.h) 21:17 <@rikersan> clang thinks it's a function definition not a declartion iirc 21:18 some cosmetic stuff like "The engraving on the headstone shimmers for a moment", a voice gives you a random rumor [true or false], 21:18 <@Demo> i want the dead to talk to me 21:19 I'm in the process of merging the last batch through. 21:19 I think it has succeeded. 21:19 I was planning to tackle the clang one last XD 21:19 some damaging effects like the headstone falls on your foot, maybe a rndcurse() effect, 21:21 <@rikersan> ah I see lol 21:22 <@Demo> wasnt there some idea of adding somewhere in dnh to summon specific demons? 21:22 <@Demo> i swear this is something that was talked of at some point? 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:104581 21:25 Yeah, the summoning candles. 21:25 <@Demo> oh candles... 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:104585 21:25 Useful as a possible backdoor to wishing for an extra artifact, 21:25 as well as general shenanigans. 21:26 <@Demo> i was thinking of a special level at the bottom of hell basically with different ritual zones for different special demons 21:26 <@Demo> what demons would summoning candles let you summon? 21:27 Any non-unique ones, and probably any unique one too. With a probable limit on the number of unique ones you can summon (probably 1). 21:28 <@Demo> so you get a menu on invoke? 21:28 <@Demo> sort of like a crystal memories deal but a candle invoke and not tame and obviously no need to have seen it? 21:29 Hm. Was intending for it to be a text prompt (since you can summon ANYTHING). 21:29 <@Demo> ohhh 21:29 And, it just now occurred to me that this is a fix for Center of All. 21:29 <@Demo> sounds like opening the doors to some issues 21:29 <@Demo> not sure what yet 21:29 Since if he doesn't appear you can summon him. 21:29 <@Demo> oh yeah 21:30 Some limits would apply. No Wizard of Yendor, for example, and no Elder Priest. 21:30 <@Demo> id assume MG_NOWISH would apply 21:31 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:104748 21:32 * Chris_ANG checks 21:32 Yeah, that seems right. 21:32 ...mostly right. 21:32 Do figurines respect extinction? 21:32 Whoops. There are currently no random graves in xnethack. 21:33 <@Demo> not sure about figurines 21:33 <@Demo> i dont think so? 21:33 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 21:34 The current nowish roster is a bit too restrictive, probably bc it's trying to avoid duplicate uniques. 21:34 But that could be fixed by splitting MG_NOWISH into _NOFIGURINE and _NOWISH. 21:35 <@Demo> so i could call in ascodel? 21:35 <@Demo> or some other monster that i shouldnt have access to? 21:35 (Medusa, for example, would be fine to summon with a candle, but not fine as an unlimited supply of figurines). 21:35 <@rikersan> tame clockwork with medusa ftw 21:36 <@rikersan> oh, smoething else I've been thinking about chris 21:36 <@Demo> does the candle consume itself or is it an endless invoke? 21:36 <@rikersan> there should really be 2 kinds of gaze attacks 21:36 Consumes 21:36 <@Demo> ah 21:36 <@rikersan> a gaze which you have to look at the monster, and a gaze when the monster just looks at you 21:36 Already done, re gaze attacks? 21:36 <@rikersan> really? 21:36 Yeah, already done :P 21:36 <@rikersan> found some bugs for you then 21:36 <@Demo> wide vs regular 21:36 Yeah 21:36 <@Demo> oh yeah talk about medusa 21:36 <@rikersan> cuz blind medusa stoned herself 21:36 <@rikersan> when I had reflection and she was tame 21:36 <@Demo> talk about infinite medusa loop 21:36 Yeah, that's a bug XD 21:37 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 21:37 <@Demo> aols doesnt save you from medusa 21:37 <@Demo> you die then you die then you die then you die 21:38 <@Demo> not even wizard mode can save you! 21:38 Yeah, something has gone wrong there :/ 21:38 It's cause it skips your turn, I think? 21:39 <@Demo> time would tick then? 21:39 Hm. 21:39 <@rikersan> ya I think I reported that 21:39 <@Demo> oh yep thats the case 21:39 <@rikersan> not always 21:39 <@rikersan> but sometimes 21:40 <@rikersan> hm I can't repro the bug chris 21:40 (Using a candle would allow you to call in Angel lords like Ascodel and Gwyn, probably only 1). 21:40 <@rikersan> reflection vs blind 21:40 <@Demo> call in keto lol 21:40 Maybe already fixed, then? 21:40 I'm not sure if you can TAME Keto. 21:41 <@Demo> im sure you cant 21:41 <@Demo> actually i dont wanna say that but keto is cool 21:41 <@Demo> hey could you call in apollyon and have astral break? 21:42 Er... 21:42 <@Demo> yeah ok that doesnt break it, tested, but would be weird 21:43 No, because she's nowish, and I'd have to introduce a bug by removing replacing nowish with nofigurine for her. 21:43 <@Demo> ah 21:43 <@Demo> right to prevent the statue that would have the same effect 21:44 <@Demo> cause i think thats handled in corpse_chance 21:44 <@Demo> and corpse_chance doesnt check the ischam or whatever 21:45 Heh: 21:45 "Lucifer" 21:45 LVL: 39 21:45 Guys, I think dnh might have experienced some power creep over the years O: 21:46 <@Demo> yeah definitely 21:46 <@Demo> thats where the fun in it is though 21:46 <@Demo> oh so maazecorin and lugribossk or whatever the spelling is there, those arent no wish and you could maybe cause weird results if you called either in and took em up with candle 21:48 Huh 21:49 How does the vanilla figurine code handle quest nemeses? 21:49 'cause I'm noting that none of them have nowish :/ 21:49 <@Demo> oh yikes 21:49 <@Demo> vanilla figurine code bans unique i thought? 21:50 <@Demo> well you can statue them in as dopplegangers and it doesnt break 21:52 aosdict: Great ideas. But we *do* need the random graves, then. 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:105780 22:01 . 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:105805 22:02 Huh. Well, SOMETHING handles uniques and figurines in dnh, bc even in wizmode you can't wish them up :/ 22:02