00:17 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:20 -!- rogue has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- rogue has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 00:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:25 I see you mumak! 00:28 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:15279 00:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:16587 00:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16593 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 28371 points, T:19152, killed by a giant zombie 01:04 <@Luxidream> https://i.imgur.com/zZupoB9.png 01:04 <@Luxidream> I found a friend 😃 01:06 <3 01:06 d 01:06 d~. 01:07 woah, lag 01:21 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 01:22 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:31 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict https://i.imgur.com/fcBNtat.png 01:31 Will do, @Luxidream! 01:31 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict put zruties back in xnh 01:31 Will do, @Luxidream! 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh4] ZRUTYHACK (Luxidream) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 256946 points, T:59806, ascended, in polyinit mode https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-08-15%2005%3A32%3A33%2C%20ZRUTYHACK-Val-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 01:33 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-08-15%2005%3A32%3A33%2C%20ZRUTYHACK-Val-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 01:33 Will do, @Luxidream! 01:36 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:38 <@Luxidream> !tell aosdict now you can't say zruties are irrelevant anymore 01:38 Will do, @Luxidream! 01:38 @Luxidream What happens if you enable show_race? 01:38 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 01:39 <@Luxidream> I think you show up as the monster 01:40 IDK if they even have a letter properly 01:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:48 @Luxidream: woah you ascended as a zruty? congratulations :) 01:48 <@Luxidream> yeah, because aosdict removed them from xnh 01:49 go team zruty!!! :D 01:49 now I kinda feel obligated to make zruty a playable slex race :) 01:50 <@Luxidream> do it 01:51 <@Luxidream> stick it to the establishment 01:51 do they have all the normal limbs and equipment slots? or did you have to rely on punching damage with whatever the zruty's attacks are? 01:51 <@Luxidream> they are too big for body armor 01:52 <@Luxidream> they are slow 01:52 damn, so no DSM and probably no comr either? 01:53 <@Luxidream> extra claw and bite attacks 01:53 <@Luxidream> I used a shield of reflection and an artiwish 01:54 ah I see 02:00 -!- cooled has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- cooled has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- sacredchao has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09 * PavelB is reading recent SLEX commits 02:09 * PavelB So when is FIQSLEX going to be a thing? 02:11 PavelB: sorry, have to fulfill my obligations first, after all I angered the gods and have to appease them first before I can even start thinking about doing any other slex-related work 02:12 pager.c is so damn big but I guess I brought this on myself so I shouldn't complain and just finish it 02:12 I thought most of the references would just be like minor playful insults but tbh some of them are actually really mean 02:13 yes, and that's why I'm changing them now 02:13 when looking at the commits: would you agree that the new replacement lines are no longer insulting? or do you see some that I should "defuse" further just to be on the safe side? 02:15 Some of the messages it's pretty obvious what variant/person they're talking about even if you do the substitution 02:15 It might be safer to remove some of them outright 02:16 well the main issue was that new players who've never played the other variants will think "huh? variant X does that? I won't play it then"; but if it says "Rodney's Tower", the average player will have no idea what it refers to and therefore not be put off from playing other variants 02:17 how about I put my comments on the commit messages and help you that way 02:17 bug_sniper: sure, if that's not too much work for you? 02:18 Jesus christ 02:18 > "ais is literally satan and dnethack and nethack4 and fiqhack are absolute shit and all the opposing team are autists", /* inspired by Elronnd; of course when I (Amy) say similar-sounding things (Elronnd was obviously exaggerating) they should be taken with a grain of salt :-) */ 02:18 What were you thinking 02:18 that was a literal quote IIRC; the problem is that in-game it appears out of context, so yeah I obviously completely replaced that one 02:20 paveuhhh 02:20 uhhh 02:20 what did I say to inspire that?? 02:23 just call them hardcore and it's cool 02:27 so I started posting the comments 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh13d] JaffaJaetkae (Kni Mal), 86 points, T:49, imp 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 877 points, T:2227, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:33 huh, turn 500 speed boots and gauntlet of power 02:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:07 are fountains detected by potion of object detection or by magic mapping? 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3030 03:10 PavelB: eh, you know 03:11 while some of the stuff is arguably mean 03:11 it kinda gets meaningless when LarienTelrunya says things like that all the time 03:11 not what you quoted in particular which is just some weird parody quotet 03:11 *quote 03:11 but other stuff 03:12 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:38517 03:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:39 ok, I think I'll be asleep now 03:39 night, and thanks for the help! 03:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:48 while we're at it, I'd like to take this opportunity to remove the fart jokes too 03:49 because they remind me about the stinky people on the busses I don't want to be reminded of 03:49 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 03:50 well this is not "remove every single thing from slex", this is "remove the parts that insult variant devs and their variants" 03:50 I don't want this to become any sort of precedent 03:53 if I had to remove everything that anyone ever feels uncomfortable with, I might just as well pull the plug and just play it locally where I don't have to remove anything 04:00 sorry if I'm annoying, but what is the general consensus on this line: "Junethack is a tournament where the rules keep getting adjusted to make sure it's not too easy to score clan points. But that requires a lot of testing. And the players are very tricky little creatures who keep coming up with ways to use holes in the rules for getting points, so the actual tournament doubles as a testing ground for the rules :)" - ins 04:07 I'd consider that too nice. call them little rule breaking bastards 04:09 heh, that's exactly what I anticipated: depending on who I ask, the answer can be anything from "dude that's still too insulting, dial it back!" and "nah you've put too much cotton wool around it, you can afford being a little rougher on the wording" 04:09 I guess I'll just finish going through slex's messages and try to use my whatever-passes-for-good-justice to decide what to change and to what, and then #pray to K2 :D 04:11 -!- tx15 has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- tx15 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:22 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:08 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16 -!- tungtn_ has joined #hardfought 05:17 -!- dtype_ has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- tungtn has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:18 -!- dtype has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 !tell K2 alright, finally done with the slex makeover. Now the game should no longer insult anyone by name, nor their variants. Does it fulfill the hardfought criteria now? 05:51 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 06:02 !tell K2 fwiw the other server is already updated and thus no longer has those insulting in-game messages; it's the current master branch again 06:02 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 06:04 -!- sacredchao has joined #hardfought 06:07 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Val Dwa Fem Law), 323463 points, T:40192, killed by a vorpal jabberwock 06:09 -!- sacredchao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16 @Luxidream uh I never made any sort of bet *against* you ascending 06:16 aosdict: Messages from @Luxidream have been forwarded to you privately. 06:35 -!- CGML16 has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- CGML16 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:44 -!- Guest89008 has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- Guest89008 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:29 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:49756 07:29 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49759 07:33 -!- Humvee7 has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- Humvee7 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:39 hah, PatR had just as much trouble figuring out the floodfilling code as I did 07:43 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49850 07:47 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49909 07:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:58 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:50237 08:15 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:50700 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1114 points, T:3275, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:26 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50793 08:52 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 298 points, T:1072, killed by a boulder 09:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:05 . 09:05 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-08-15 05:51 EDT: alright, finally done with the slex makeover. Now the game should no longer insult anyone by name, nor their variants. Does it fulfill the hardfought criteria now? 09:05 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-08-15 06:02 EDT: fwiw the other server is already updated and thus no longer has those insulting in-game messages; it's the current master branch again 09:05 ok 09:31 !who 09:31 K2: [hdf-us] Eleven [nh343] dgoddard [nh361] | [hdf-eu] xgamer [dnh] PeterQ [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:34 !tell AntiGulp if you're interested in using tiletool for Splice, you probably want the 3.6 version. http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/983.txt 09:34 Will do, jonadab! 09:41 -!- JSharp22 has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- JSharp22 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:01 -!- atomicthumbs4 has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- atomicthumbs4 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:04 Which wand is "The floor is riddled by bullet holes!" 10:04 <@IceBox> magic missile 10:04 Thanks 10:04 <@IceBox> fo sho 10:05 The wiki says "The is riddled by bullet holes!" and those angled brackets kill searching 10:05 -!- drakythe has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- drakythe has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 540 points, T:1311, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:12 -!- hammer06526 has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- hammer06526 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 171 points, T:640, killed by a small mimic 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13756 10:17 -!- dtype_ has quit [] 10:17 -!- dtype_ has joined #hardfought 10:18 -!- dtype_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:19 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:14012 10:20 <@IceBox> there's a good page on wand engraving and then ID'ing that you can just have pulled up as well to consult those messages 10:20 <@IceBox> here ya go https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wand#Engrave-identification 10:20 <@IceBox> unless that's where you were already looking 😃 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 46627 points, T:14284, killed by a blast of disintegration 10:30 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2351 10:45 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3235 10:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1567 points, T:3744, killed by a ghoul, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:54 -!- eido1on has joined #hardfought 10:54 -!- eido1on has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3887 11:10 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51100 11:11 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51129 11:13 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Buer, on T:51140 11:18 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6870 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5215 11:27 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed historic unlit greased magic marker named stephen leacock", on T:51233 11:29 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:51239 11:29 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51239 11:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:38 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:9779 11:40 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:51361 11:41 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class S, on T:51361 11:41 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) killed the Failure Eidolon, on T:22990 11:51 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:51417 11:53 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:51441 11:56 I didn't know a deck of summoning could give you a panlord 11:56 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2688925 points, T:51451, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/splicehack/dumplog/1533834108.splice.txt 11:56 Errr, wrong game, sorry 11:56 first splicehack gnome healer done 12:00 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:11658 12:15 -!- APLU12 has joined #hardfought 12:15 -!- APLU12 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:15 -!- Guest4100 has joined #hardfought 12:15 -!- Guest4100 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:17 congrats hothraxxa! 12:29 -!- annieslmaos has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- annieslmaos has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 12:31 thanks k2. should have been the previous game, but i messed it up 12:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4129 12:46 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:15193 12:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 12:53 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:16167 12:53 <@rikersan> wait, you can get all attributes increased from a fountain quaff? 12:54 <@rikersan> TIL 12:54 From a magic fountain 12:54 <@rikersan> I thought it was always one 12:54 <@rikersan> well yes 12:54 <@rikersan> iirc tha'ts only a magic fountain effect in general but yes 12:54 if your luck is high enough, it's all 12:54 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6370 12:54 !who 12:54 PavelB: [hdf-us] Luxidream [spl] terrapin [spl] groovejumper [4k] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [dnh] xgamer [nh361] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:55 <@rikersan> huh 12:55 <@rikersan> I think I have 7 12:55 <@rikersan> judging by enlightenment 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:06 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:8735 13:14 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:10085 13:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10087 13:18 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:10186 13:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased scrolls of genocide", on T:14360 13:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:14361 13:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fixed greased magic marker", on T:14416 13:39 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:17543 13:42 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:44 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:18131 13:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:18159 13:46 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp you broke polymorph control somehow 13:46 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:46 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp it doesn't work with dragon scales on 13:46 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:47 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp also valk quest generated without a portal 13:47 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:47 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp had to anger quest leader to leave 13:47 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:48 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Val Ang Fem Law), 162181 points, T:18179, killed by a horned devil 13:49 <@Luxidream> does potion of polymorph ignore polymorph control? 13:49 <@Luxidream> or is that a bug 13:49 <@Tone> It respects poly control 13:50 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp specifically potion of polymorph 13:50 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:51 <@Luxidream> so I was fighting mephisto and go to polymorph myself and suck out his brains 13:51 <@Luxidream> drink polymorph 13:51 <@Luxidream> become a gray dragon break all my armor and die 13:52 <@Luxidream> !tell AntiGulp you can check the ttyrec to see I was wearing polycont 13:52 Will do, @Luxidream! 13:56 <@Tone> Damn that's really frustrating lux 13:56 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Dark One, on T:19938 13:57 <@Tone> During speed runs I've quaffed random $200 potions in shops and poly'd into a minotaur and murdered the shopkeeper 13:57 <@Tone> with poly control obviously 13:57 <@Tone> so I've definitely done it before 14:01 -!- Moyst14 has joined #hardfought 14:01 -!- Moyst14 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 14:11 [hdf-us] [4k] joana (Ssach) (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2010 points, T:541, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:12 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:12 <@Luxidream> !tell Antigulp sorry to bother you, but when using curses interface for spl, it's impossible to discern lit squares from unlit squares. do you know why this is the case? 14:12 Will do, @Luxidream! 14:12 [hdf-us] [4k] MeffTwo (Ssach) (Rog Syl Fem Cha), 3318 points, T:2345, quit 14:13 [hdf-us] [4k] yeah (Ssach) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1725 points, T:757, quit 14:13 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:14 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 14:15 @Luxidream: at a guess it's related to darkgray shenanigans, which are probably too complex to summarise on a single line of IRC 14:15 ais523: Message from @Luxidream at 2018-08-14 21:33 EDT: nethack4 bug: if you are polyselfed into a form with more than one attack and melee a floating eye, your other attacks go through anyway 14:16 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:20969 14:16 @Luxidream: let me file a bug tracker entry about that; what server did you see that on? (it probably doesn't matter, just want to get all the fields filled out) 14:17 I'm guessing Hardfought? 14:17 <@Luxidream> hdf-us 14:17 <@Luxidream> I was playing polyinit as zruty 14:19 OK, thanks, it's on the list now so we won't forget it 14:19 arguably this is consistent with other passives (which also only trigger once on a multiple-attack sequence, IIRC), but perhaps they should trigger every time 14:20 <@Luxidream> attacking an ochre jelly or spotted jelly causes you to take multiple rounds of acid damage though 14:20 hmm, that's what I'd expect 14:20 so maybe it's some dead vanilla code that's interfering 14:23 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:24 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I think sharab kamerel are a bit of a difficulty hike from the rest of the kamerel, esp. since they seem really hard to hit 14:24 Will do, @rikersan! 14:25 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG I'd recommend decreasing how many are gen'd, since you end up with like 8 or so (plus the water dudes) targeting you at once 14:25 Will do, @rikersan! 14:25 <@Luxidream> !who 14:25 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] terrapin [spl] ahrimen [fh] groovejumper [4k] | [hdf-eu] PeterQ [dnh] Vis [nh361] xgamer [4k] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:29 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:1271 14:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:31 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 14:33 Yeah... 14:33 Chris_ANG: Messages from Tangles_ and @rikersan have been forwarded to you privately. 14:35 revisiting now, their speed is actually bizarrely high, it seems like they have one too many melee attacks, and they get a +2 dice bonus on their spellcasting that no other Kamerel gets. 14:38 <@Luxidream> what does casting dice do? I've seen this notation a lot but I'm not sure what it does specifically 14:38 <@Luxidream> like spl's mephisto used to have 6d4 fire magic 14:38 <@Luxidream> obviously, it's not 6d4 damage? 14:40 -!- alphor13 has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- alphor13 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 14:41 I think it is 6d4 damage (which would be an average of 2½×6 = 15 damage, not all that much) 14:41 0 is a special case, having a 0-sided dice (or 0 dice) is notation to make the attack scale based on level 14:41 that's why things like energy vortexes in vanilla are so dangerous, because you can't outlevel the amount of damage they do, it just keeps increasing 14:42 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 14:43 ais523: But Shock-Resistance always averts all Damage, does not it? 14:43 in vanilla, shock resistance will entirely block most forms of shock-elemental damage 14:44 there are a few attacks that are powerful enough to partially pierce resistance (e.g. the "electric chair" result from sitting on a throne), but that's rare 14:44 in some variants, partial-piercing attacks are much more common (e.g. in FIQHack, they're all over the place) 14:44 Pretty sure it always indicates bonus dice, when used for spellcasting and breath weapons. 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1916 14:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1920 14:45 The base number of dice is level/2, and any bonus dice are added to that. 14:45 oh right, lots of attacks have a base damage too, I forgot about that until you mentioned it 14:46 So a 2d6 spellcasting attack actually does (level/2 + 2)d6 damage. 14:47 The number after the d sets the size for all dice, so a 2d8 spellcasting attack is (level/2 + 2)d8. 14:47 Confusingly, some spells disregard the standard damage dice and always use a set number and size. 14:48 I believe these are all clerical spells like geyser and flame strike. 14:51 (d0 is a special case, it means "use the default die size", which is 6) 14:54 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:23857 14:54 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- Hrogart has joined #hardfought 15:00 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 37576 points, T:3065, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a potion 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:6394 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:7140 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased wand of polymorph", on T:7143 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:7144 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:7168 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased scrolls of genocide", on T:7333 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:7333 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:7334 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased ring of conflict named PLEASE NO MORE 0:1 WOW THANKS GAME", on T:8198 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:8199 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:10814 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10816 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:11999 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:12019 15:39 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:12374 15:40 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cornuthaum", on T:26639 15:40 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 t-shirt", on T:26641 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:13191 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:13192 15:45 will that be sub 1h30? 15:46 ais523: wut, electric chair isn't actually an electric attack 15:46 ais523: its just a normal attack prevented by shock resistance 15:47 thats why you don't get your rings destroyed etc 15:47 unless they changed ithat in 3.6 15:52 losehp(Shock_resistance ? rnd(6) : rnd(30), "electric chair", 15:53 KILLED_BY_AN); 15:53 stenno: well NetHack doesn't really have elemental attacks 15:53 it just fakes them 15:54 how about, say, a fire trap 15:54 when you have special cases everywhere, sometimes the general case doesn't exist 15:54 I think AD_FIRE only exists for attacks, and possibly zaps and explosions 15:55 oh wow wtf 15:55 now i found an obscure death 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:15933 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:15939 15:56 if you get killed by a fire trap that is underwater you get 'killed by boiling water' 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:15961 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:16024 15:56 hm but i get your point, fair enough 15:56 basically the fire trap code does the same as the electric chair 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:16133 15:57 congrats Luxidream on your zruty ascension. A day for the history books. 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:16310 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:16473 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:16474 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:16491 16:00 gogo 16:01 1h20 in? 16:01 something like that 16:04 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 16:06 D: 16:06 stenno: trap on water is almost impossbile to generate 16:07 the only way it can happen is if it generates with the level (and probably only then on a special level) 16:07 so this may be specific to valk home 16:07 what happen if i fill a field next to it with water 16:07 hm 16:08 ugh, watching someone else get affected by the mysterious force is worse than suffering it myself. 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:18328 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:18330 16:09 petrification death inc 16:09 oh fuck 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 539628 points, T:18858, quit (with the Amulet) 16:11 rip 16:11 <@Luxidream> fuck that shit 16:11 !lastgame luxidream 16:11 stenno: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nh361/dumplog/1534358346.nh361.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dnethack/dumplog/1530400922.dnh.txt 16:11 i think it was already over when you got MFed 16:12 <@Luxidream> it was over when I got triple forced 16:12 1h30 in 16:12 <@Luxidream> no magic mapping this game 16:12 <@Luxidream> or teleport control 16:12 on tc? 16:13 s/on/no/ 16:13 nice 16:13 as in, good to know that you can be this fast without tc 16:13 <@Luxidream> my successful run was also no TC 16:14 * stenno makes notes 16:14 <@Luxidream> can I just get a 0:2 wand of wishing 16:14 i thought it to be essential 16:17 <@Luxidream> a 0:3 wand of wishing is essential 😛 16:18 <@Luxidream> I think magic mapping saves more time than teleport control 16:20 If you have TC control you can use cursed ?oTele to instantly get up to dlvl 1 after getting the amulet, right? 16:20 (IDK tho) 16:20 <@Luxidream> you think it would be that easy 16:20 <@Luxidream> ? 16:21 I have no clue 16:21 I've never even gotten close 16:21 <@Luxidream> yeah, you can't do that. amulet blocks level teleport 16:22 <@Luxidream> if we could, we wouldn't be doing all this walking in a speed run 16:24 Or probably any run, actually 16:27 <@Luxidream> first the splice run then this :/ 16:27 <@Luxidream> i am salt 16:30 What happened? 16:31 <@Luxidream> potion of polymorph seems to be bugged. ignores polymorph control 16:31 <@Luxidream> broke my armor in front of mephisto at 1:10 16:31 <@Luxidream> died 16:31 feelsbadman 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] munterplant (Sam Hum Fem Law), 268 points, T:779, killed by a small mimic 16:36 <@rikersan> Chris_ANG oh thank god, I knew that was a very quick time to KO a 130 hp dude 16:40 -!- Hrogart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:40 <@Luxidream> !who 16:40 @Luxidream: [hdf-us] terrapin [spl] ptaff [nh361] munterplant [nh361] | [hdf-eu] xgamer [dnh] PeterQ [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:42 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 16:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:32637 17:33 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) averted death, on T:33348 17:35 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:33499 17:56 !lastgame bouquet 17:56 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/dumplog/1534107740.xnh.txt 17:57 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:02 [hdf-us] [spl] terrapin (Sam Ang Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:34349 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2043 points, T:3880, killed by a jaguar 18:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20027 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1035 points, T:3233, killed by a giant ant 18:39 how do I force myself to get into a pool of water in xnh? Moving into water isn't automatic in xnh. 18:40 m[direction]? 18:40 ahha, thanks! 18:48 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50 !tell Luxidream I am very sorry the polymorph bug happened, and at such a bad time. I’m trying to replicate it right now, but it’s not going well. 18:50 AntiGulp: Messages from ais523, jonadab, and @Luxidream have been forwarded to you privately. 18:50 Will do, AntiGulp! 18:52 -!- vectr0n25 has joined #hardfought 18:52 -!- vectr0n25 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:55 !tell Luxidream I can’t duplicate the polymorph bug you described, unless I escape or fail the “become what monster” prompt. Could that have accidentally happened? (I can easily duplicate the valkyrie bug, that one is concerning). 18:55 Will do, AntiGulp! 18:56 <@Luxidream> AntiGulp: can you check the ttyrec to make sure that I was wearing polymorph control? 18:56 @Luxidream: Message from AntiGulp at 2018-08-15 18:50 EDT: I am very sorry the polymorph bug happened, and at such a bad time. I’m trying to replicate it right now, but it’s not going well. 18:56 @Luxidream: Message from AntiGulp at 2018-08-15 18:55 EDT: I can’t duplicate the polymorph bug you described, unless I escape or fail the “become what monster” prompt. Could that have accidentally happened? (I can easily duplicate the valkyrie bug, that one is concerning). 18:56 <@Luxidream> and that I did not skip the prompt 18:57 Hmmmmmmm 18:58 Well I solved the valkyrie one, for some inexplicable reason the portal arrival was altered and then commited as part of another commit. 19:00 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:00 <@Luxidream> let me get a ttyrec player and look it over one more time 19:03 <@rikersan> what's the valk one? 19:04 Valkyrie level generated without a portal. It looks like I must have commited the change accidentally. 19:05 Just scanned the diff. Splice’s polyself.c file is almost identicaly to vanilla’s, with only a few minor changes for masks and amalgamations. I can’t see anything that would cause a dragon scales situation. 19:11 <@Luxidream> AntiGulp: I had polymorph control on 19:11 That’s what I tested with, ring of polymorph control 19:12 <@Luxidream> I was also being engulfed by a dust devil 19:13 <@Luxidream> I quaff. I immediately get "You feel a little strange. You turn into a gray dragon! armor breaking etc" 19:13 <@Luxidream> I was also stunned, if it has anything to do with that 19:14 Ok, I’m going to try to recreate the exact situation 19:14 Stay tuned 19:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:25445 19:16 Yep, duplicated it! It must be something about being engulfed. I think I actually might know what is going on here. 19:17 <@Luxidream> so this is a vanilla bug as well? 19:19 Wait, no, I found it. It turns out that (for vanilla as well) if you are STUNNED, your polymorph will not be controllable. There’s a boolean: “controllable_poly = Polymorph_control && !(Stunned || Unaware);” 19:19 So not a bug, just a very obscure limitation :( 19:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:26398 19:20 <@Luxidream> well, I'm putting that on the wiki then 19:20 <@Luxidream> thanks for looking into it though 19:21 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:21 No problem! Heck, I’m glad that people will know that now, it’s such a bizarre corner case. 19:21 <@Tone> Interesting! 19:21 <@Tone> That's great to know 19:21 <@Luxidream> Unaware = sleeping? fainted? 19:21 <@Luxidream> I'm not sure about that 19:22 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 19:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by ChanServ 19:24 Unclear, it’s definitely unconscious or fainted, but it might include paralyzed as well. 19:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26829 19:26 <@Luxidream> I guess I need to wizmode and check what happens when you melee a floating eye 19:26 <@Luxidream> with a ring of polymorph control on 19:26 <@Luxidream> err, polymorph 19:26 <@Luxidream> too 19:26 <@Tone> that's an interesting case 19:27 -!- ThiefMaster6 has joined #hardfought 19:27 -!- ThiefMaster6 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:31 <@Luxidream> hey, graphical vanilla nethack has better mouse controls than legacy 19:31 <@Luxidream> who would have thought 19:31 !tell K2 The master branch of SpliceHack has a ton of bug fixes, including for the infernal race. It doesn’t break saves in any way shape or form. 19:31 Will do, AntiGulp! 19:36 <@Luxidream> I'm having trouble not oneshotting the eye 19:36 <@Luxidream> maybe I shouldn't have tried this with valk 19:40