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:( 02:03 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:09 !tell aosdict wen eta moving master mind flayers to dark blue 'a' :D seriously though, as a player who is used to vanilla, the monster letter changes are ultra confusing... is the change list on the wiki up to date or did you move any other glyphs and colors around? 02:09 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:27 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:47 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- stenno is now known as Guest35718 03:48 -!- Guest35718 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56 -!- elky has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- elky has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:05 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:19 -!- BranchPredictor1 has joined #hardfought 04:19 -!- BranchPredictor1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 04:25 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:28 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:30 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:31 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 04:38 Evil Patch idea: the mysterious force can also trigger spontaneously, not just when you're trying to use a staircase. 04:39 !tell jonadab I've decided to create a list of features in slex's evilvariant mode: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Evil_Variant (some of those are from Fourk and the wand destruction patch :P) 04:39 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 05:13 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 05:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:40 -!- cncr04s6 has joined #hardfought 05:40 -!- cncr04s6 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:40 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 05:47 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:16 -!- We27 has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- We27 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- stenno is now known as Guest27639 06:31 -!- Guest27639 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:56 -!- \mSg16 has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- \mSg16 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:09 whups 07:55 -!- jrg13 has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- jrg13 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:02 -!- Fearful has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- Fearful has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:15 wow object materials in dnethack are very broken. 08:16 C) = a +1 gem iron ring 08:16 O) / an iron ceramic wand N) / an iron forked wand V) / an iron platinum wand 08:24 heh 08:25 -!- stenno2_ has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:28 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- stenno is now known as Guest34318 08:38 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) wished for "master key of thievery", on T:31010 08:41 -!- Guest34318 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:59 <[Demo]> yrs they are 09:00 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated the Dark One, on T:31957 09:01 <[Demo]> thankfully gem based rings should be fine 09:01 <[Demo]> but wooden and iron and silver and gold, nope 09:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:52234 09:11 !tell LarienTelrunya The change list on the wiki is up to date regarding monster colors and letters. It's missing only the grass and new level stuff. 09:11 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-08-09 02:09 EDT: wen eta moving master mind flayers to dark blue 'a' :D seriously though, as a player who is used to vanilla, the monster letter changes are ultra confusing... is the change list on the wiki up to date or did you move any other glyphs and colors around? 09:11 Will do, aosdict! 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:53341 09:29 <[Demo]> what's grazs 09:29 <[Demo]> is it like slex? 09:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:35 [Demo]: currently it doesn't do anything special except look pretty 09:36 <[Demo]> so it's like chris's solution but a real solution 09:36 if you have any ideas for what it could do that aren't broken by having it in large quantities, let me hear em 09:37 <[Demo]> in dnh on some levels . are drawn as green but that means all . are drawn green 09:37 <[Demo]> barefoot on grass monks get a boost 09:37 <[Demo]> idk 09:37 <[Demo]> slightly faster pw regen 09:38 I implemented it as a separate terrain type so I can have grass mixed with regular . 09:39 <[Demo]> herbivorous pets can graze 09:39 <[Demo]> i.e. while on grass squares don't lose nutrition 09:39 <[Demo]> if at extreme hunger and on a grass square they eat it 09:39 <[Demo]> and it turns back to not grass 09:40 <[Demo]> and they get a lot of nutrients 09:40 <[Demo]> hmm I might add grass to ndnh 09:40 <[Demo]> and make it do cool shit 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:54535 09:42 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:33174 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:55845 09:54 I totally like the grazing idea 10:05 -!- Sheraf has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- Sheraf has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:08 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 10:10 Hmm, does Fort Ludios exist outdoors? 10:11 Or is it in some sort of rock cavern that's only accessible by portal? 10:12 I assume most non-quest non-plane levels are the latter 10:13 <[Demo]> why is grass a comma? 10:13 because comma wasn't used for anything 10:13 and it looks like . while being distinct 10:14 It looks like a floor tile with a little extra, like grassy ground 10:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:14 because lizards aren't l anymore I can theoretically steal : for terrain types as well :) 10:15 er, because they aren't : anymore* 10:17 [Demo]: huh, what's up with that dnethack materials bug? is it fixed in devel? or does dnhslex also have it because Chris didn't fix it yet? 10:17 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-08-09 09:11 EDT: The change list on the wiki is up to date regarding monster colors and letters. It's missing only the grass and new level stuff. 10:17 MysteryMyra: ditto for ; come to think of it 10:18 -!- Dwarf24 has joined #hardfought 10:18 -!- Dwarf24 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:21 <[Demo]> it's never gonna be fixed ever 10:21 <[Demo]> lol 10:21 <[Demo]> no its just that the names are goofy 10:21 <[Demo]> like glass gold wands 10:21 a wand made out of (only) gold and glass would look really dang cool 10:21 wondering why no one uses the slex way of item materials, slex does a super good job at it :P 10:23 @rikersan WoT inspired YANI that could be done in xnethack: Callandor, lawful glass [long sword or other type of sword], which provides double spell damage when wielded. 10:23 lol speaking of which, in my current slex game I have a potion that's made of mithril 10:24 mithril is probably an ingredient in splice's potions of reflection 10:24 not silver? 10:24 YANI: A slime terrain type which slows you down, and either damages you slightly or erodes your boots if you're wearing any. Left behind when Ps move around. 10:24 YASI: "silver potion" (the randomized appearance) does something, maybe give temporary reflection in addition to whatever the potion normally does 10:25 silver isn't particularly reflective, nethack just has two reflection things linked to silver for some reason 10:25 PavelB: huh? I'd have expected slime terrain to, well, you know... turn you to slime if you touch it barefooted :P 10:25 amulets of reflection are iron of course 10:25 PavelB: how about mud 10:26 (mud would be nice and versatile and could spice up a lot of special levels) 10:26 am I the only one who read that as "splice up"? :D 10:26 I think "toxic sludge" is cooler but yeah mud would be more versatile 10:27 unnethack has sludge 10:28 aosdict: Silver is actually one of if not the most reflective pure metal 10:29 well I choose to just say "let anything that can possibly be shiny be reflective" 10:29 * aosdict checks whether xnh shields of reflection can be wooden 10:29 The only problem with using it for mirrors is that it oxidizes (tarnishes) extremely quickly 10:29 no, I guess they can't 10:32 Silver is also the most electrically conductive metal 10:32 LarienTelrunya: Nobody wants to cherry-pick from slex because of the huge amount of code divergence, compared to other variants. 10:32 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-08-09 02:03 EDT: your nethack page seems to be down? :( 10:32 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-08-09 04:39 EDT: I've decided to create a list of features in slex's evilvariant mode: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Evil_Variant (some of those are from Fourk and the wand destruction patch :P) 10:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:37 -!- stenno is now known as Guest45299 10:42 -!- Guest45299 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:50 <[Demo]> do traps in xnh grass render properly when undiscovered? 10:50 <[Demo]> or does it draw a room tile? 10:54 -!- jor18 has joined #hardfought 10:54 -!- jor18 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 10:58 a quick wizmode check says that they do render properly when undiscovered 10:58 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 11:00 <[Demo]> hmm wonder why mine dont 11:01 Does wizmode let you spawn traps at will? 11:02 <[Demo]> Oh wait it works fine on monk home but not pleasant valley castle 11:02 <[Demo]> wtf 11:03 PavelB: yes you generally wish for them 11:03 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:03 sometimes it won't let you, like if you try to make a hole on the stairs 11:05 I've seen a hole on a stair in a regular Nethack Fourk game once... that was *annoying* 11:07 also slex lets me wish for a hole on a staircase and it works :P 11:08 How do you get back up if the stairs has a hole 11:08 levitation 11:08 Right 11:09 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1041 points, T:2676, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:09 pluck it with a boulder 11:11 the stairs probably won't reappear but you can still use them 11:14 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 11:19 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:36 -!- badpixel2 has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- badpixel2 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 11:44 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 796 points, T:3485, killed by a wand 11:49 <[Demo]> fun fact 11:49 <[Demo]> leaving lava on the upstairs of bones won't instakill anyone that enters the bones level 11:49 <[Demo]> err lava affect them 11:50 How do you do that 11:53 <[Demo]> play a variant that lets you 12:03 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 12:05 PavelB: a confused scroll of flood, in at least one variant (either 4k or un, not sure which) 12:05 or probably ndnh :P 12:08 aosdict: Have you considered porting SPL 12:08 aosdict: Have you considered porting SPL's scroll of knowledge 12:08 I just looked at it and it's pretty cool 12:16 <@luxidream> in dnh elf ana can disintegrate right through stairs 12:17 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:57503 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:57522 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 6920 points, T:8677, killed by a leocrotta 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:57543 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57613 12:26 PavelB: if I do then I'm not going to make it cost the same as identify 12:26 but in general, less willing to add new stuff than splice 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:57758 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:57776 12:30 I don't like all the things that Splice adds, but I think the ?oK is really neat. 12:31 -!- Anerag has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.x-git-37-ad7e447b - https://znc.in] 12:39 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:44 <@luxidream> slex actually added it 12:44 <@luxidream> first 12:44 <@luxidream> it's called "reverse identify" there 12:45 -!- stenno is now known as Guest59587 12:47 actually Nethack-TNG added it first, and slex then implemented most of that variant :) 12:48 <@Tone> We already have reverse identify scrolls, they're called amnesia :P 12:49 <@luxidream> YANI: change the name of scrolls of amnesia to "scroll of unmapping and unidentify" No changes to the effect 12:49 <@luxidream> congrats, you've now removed amnesia from the game! 12:50 I'm fine with the unmapping 12:51 It's the unidentify that causes me pain 12:54 -!- Guest59587 has quit [Changing host] 12:54 -!- Guest59587 has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- Guest59587 is now known as stenno 12:55 there is this water falling down from the sky, i wonder what that is 12:55 <[Demo]> rain 12:56 @luxidream we also need to get mind flayers some better PR to completely oust "amnesia" 12:56 ah right 12:57 <[Demo]> ndnh has grass now 12:58 can you smoke it? 12:59 <[Demo]> sort of 12:59 <[Demo]> zapping it with fire burns it 12:59 oh right I meant to do that too 13:00 does it confuse monsters/players? 13:00 <[Demo]> no its normal grass 13:00 you sense a missed opportunity nearby 13:01 <[Demo]> I will fix that 13:01 <[Demo]> make it special on a special level 13:01 -!- Anerag has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.x-git-37-ad7e447b - https://znc.in] 13:08 [hdf-us] [dyn] Hash'em Extended Breakfast (Luxidream) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 353472 points, T:41361, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-08-09%2013_08_16%2C%20Hash%27em%20Extended%20Breakfast-Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 13:08 > Hash'em Extended Breakfast 13:08 LarienTelrunya: Have you seen ^ yet? :P 13:09 <@luxidream> thiefbane is busted please nerf 13:10 Mash'Em Extended Potato Dinner 13:10 Sounds delicious 13:11 Bash'Em Extended All-Day Whackamole Tournament 13:11 Sounds not delicious 13:11 Crash'Em Extended Demolition Derby 13:12 Trash'Em Extended Demolitin Derby Aftermath 13:12 I have no idea why I'm laughing so hard at this 13:12 Flash'Em Extended Photoshoot 13:13 Lash'Em Extended Balrog Show 13:13 Dash'Em Extended 100 Meters 13:14 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 13:14 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:15 Cash'Em Extended payday loan service 13:15 Rash'Em Extended Poison Ivy Romp 13:15 Gnash'Em Extended Dental Plan 13:16 <@IceBox> Cash'Em Ousside How Bou Dah 13:16 Pash'Em Extended British Make-Out 13:16 Wash'Em Extended Laundry Service 13:16 (Doesn't rhyme but who cares.) 13:16 <@IceBox> Succotash'Em Extended Loony Toon 13:16 <@luxidream> Splash'Em Extended pool party 13:17 Ash'Em Extended Cremation Service 13:17 Thrash'Em Extended Wrestling Competition 13:17 Stash'Em Extended Finest Magic Chests 13:17 <@IceBox> Sash'Em Extended Opening Day 13:17 Thresh'Em Extended Farming 13:17 <@IceBox> Thresh!?!?! 13:17 <@IceBox> get outta here 13:18 Threshing is a thing 13:18 Stache'Em Extended Luxurious Moustache 13:18 <@IceBox> yeah but it's not a rhyming thing, you rapscallion! 13:18 <@luxidream> Quash'Em Extended hitman service 13:18 <@IceBox> Clash'Em Extended of the Titans 13:19 Bash'Em Extended Now With Blunt Weapons 13:19 Yash'Em Extended POSIX Shell 13:20 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20 @IceBox there, I found an actual contribution :P 13:20 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 13:20 <@IceBox> you did it! It looks great too 13:20 Balderdash'Em Extended The Party Game 13:20 <@IceBox> is yash a shell though? 13:20 Yess 13:20 Make it csh'Em Extended 13:21 Oh, wait, that doesn't rhyme. 13:21 Nevermind. 13:21 $ yash --version 13:21 Yet another shell, version 2.47 13:21 Copyright (C) 2007-2017 magicant 13:21 This is free software licensed under GNU GPL version 2. 13:21 You can modify and redistribute it, but there is NO WARRANTY. 13:21 <@luxidream> Focus Sash'em Extended Sturdy 13:21 Potash'Em Extended Fertilizer 13:22 Does NHQDB have a limit on quote length 13:22 I was going to submit this 13:22 I'm still waiting for people to run out of ideas 13:22 oh I'm not done yet 13:23 <@IceBox> Backslash'Em Extended Escape Character 13:23 It'd be a pain for me to submit it anyway, IRCCloud copies lines in a way that the remove timestamps button doesn't process them properly 13:23 <@IceBox> MishMash'Em Extended Everything but the Kitchen Sink 13:24 <@IceBox> we're not doing this for fame or glory or quote walls 13:24 <@IceBox> it's a lifestyle now 13:24 Oh I'm still laughing 13:24 Cache'Em Extended Magic Memory Vault 13:25 <@luxidream> Rehash'em Extended Hash'em Extended Breakfast 13:25 <@IceBox> Eyelash'Em Extended Maybe She's Made With It 13:25 dang you got to rehash first 13:26 Whiplash'Em Extended Acceleration 13:27 well that's exhausted *my* rhyming dictionary except for derivatives 13:27 oh wait 13:27 I wish Hash'Em wasn't *the very first one* so I could do Hash'Em Extended Cryptography Conference 13:27 <@IceBox> Panache'Em Extended Beau Geste 13:27 Abash'Em Extended Social Anxiety 13:27 <@IceBox> yeah Hash'Em has a lot of potential 13:28 <@IceBox> think of how i feel sitting here in colorado unable to make a weed reference 13:28 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:28 just got back from eating, lol so many potential scroll labels for slex :D 13:29 <@luxidream> Rash'Em Extended Discomfort 13:29 I took rash'em already 13:29 luxidream: wen eta your first slexcension? :P 13:29 <@luxidream> you did? 13:29 Rash'Em Extended Poison Ivy Romp 13:29 10:15:30 AM <+aosdict> Rash'Em Extended Poison Ivy Romp 13:30 <@luxidream> okay, discord search didn't turn it up 13:30 <@luxidream> sorry 13:30 <@luxidream> LarienTelrunya: when you let me name my character 13:30 heh, if you play offline you can 13:31 <@luxidream> doesn't count 13:31 <@Dracunos> ??offline 13:31 <@Dracunos> This is a bot free zone, thank goodness 13:32 this is a bot free zone? nooo Beholder and rld! 13:32 Lkjhoiunjokash'Em Extended Gibberish 13:33 <@luxidream> aosdict: can you figure out a good way to put that exchange on qdb 13:33 ok we're done here 13:33 @luxidream already on it 13:33 snipping out some irrelevant messages... 13:33 -!- nullrouted has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- nullrouted has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 13:34 <@luxidream> LarienTelrunya: I think using all of these would oversaturate your scrolls a bit 13:34 luxidream: lol do you know how many scroll labels slex has? :D 13:34 No, please tell us 13:34 <@luxidream> yeah, I've looked. never counted though 13:34 more than 1000 13:35 if at all, these ones will dilute the existing "themes" that my labels have 13:35 and that would IMHO be a good thing 13:36 What file contains scroll labels 13:36 objects.c 13:36 <@luxidream> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/master/src/objects.c 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Krabat (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1525 points, T:2857, killed by a trapper 13:36 -!- Hrogart has joined #hardfought 13:37 ok submitted 13:37 it's by no means the longest one in the qdb 13:37 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:37 <@luxidream> what is the longest one out of curiosity 13:37 ask stenno or someone who's an admin 13:38 > "OOTCS FINAL TRUMP CARD IS LUXIDREAMS WEAPONIZED AUTISM" 13:38 Well that's not very nice 13:38 I think luxidream literally named a character that 13:39 before you start getting offended on Luxidream's behalf, he's cool with that label :D 13:39 <@Dracunos> I'm still deeply offended 13:39 <@Dracunos> Deep like ocean 13:40 <@luxidream> PavelB: she's right 13:40 <[Demo]> yo it was funny 13:40 I'm not offended, I assumed Amy is a nice enough person to ask Lux for permission 13:40 Just thought it was funny 13:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:41 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:41 <@Dracunos> Enough fighting everyone, can't we just be friends 13:43 of course, I'm reading that OOTCS as OOTS and getting confused... 13:43 get some dang apostrophes 13:43 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 13:43 <@luxidream> order of the cockatrice soldiers 13:46 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 13:46 <@luxidream> who approves the QDB quotes by the way 13:47 stenno 13:53 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:62319 13:58 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:01 wait, crom is neutral? huh. 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a holy greased fixed magic marker", on T:62643 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a holy greased fireproof +3 T-shirt", on T:62680 14:15 <@IceBox> does a t-shirt need to be fireproof? will it burn and therefore dissappear? 14:16 There's no reason to not fireproof it 14:19 <@IceBox> yeah but i'm just curious 14:19 <@Tone> Absolutely 0 benefit 14:20 <@IceBox> and also i personally like the tattered look 14:20 <@Tone> It's like wishing for fixed DSM which is very common 14:20 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:6280 14:21 <@Tone> People do that out of habit or because they like livelogging verbose wishes 14:21 <@IceBox> i love hypnotists wishes 14:21 <@Dracunos> Blessed greased fixed +2 uncursed magic marker 14:21 I add "fixed" to all my wishes so I don't have to remember what actually needs it or not 14:21 <@Tone> Do not wishy for a +2 marker 14:21 A +2 marker gives you a marker with 2 charges 14:21 lmao 14:21 <@Tone> wish* 14:21 eg: [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed historic partly eaten greased magic marker named william shakespeare", on T:54927 14:21 <@Dracunos> I know 14:23 holy is actually speedrun optimal 14:23 <@IceBox> is the resulting magic marker actually partly eaten? 14:23 <@IceBox> that'd be sick 14:23 it's shorter than blessed 14:24 <@Tone> well that doesn't necessarily mean it's faster to type 14:24 <@Tone> It probably does in this case though 14:24 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 41427 points, T:6315, killed by a water demon, while frozen by a potion 14:24 <@IceBox> ah so there's a reason not to wish for a fixed t-shirt too 14:24 <@IceBox> speed up your t-shirt wishes 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63136 14:24 in some variants, non-erosionproof gear can be destroyed by erosion though 14:24 grunthack for example 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63152 14:25 sporkhack 14:25 destroy armor first removes erosionproofing 14:25 then erodes armor 14:25 before destroying it 14:25 it can even erode silver items and DSM 14:25 oh god sporkhack... with its "lol you can't protect your cloak no matter what" monster spell... 14:26 yeah it's really dumb 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:63253 14:27 lorimer should at least have made the scroll of enchant armor targettable, so it's less of a pain in the butt if you need to repair a specific piece 14:28 LarienTelrunya: one thing I really like about slex is when you go to options, it immediately asks if you if you want to turn numpad on 14:29 best QoL feature ever 14:29 really??? people have complained about that feature 14:29 (that's why I made it possible to turn the question off) 14:29 haha. I liked it 14:29 but yeah, I added it because I was sick of seeing people try to play the game, fumble around with the options and then giving up, it happened many, many times 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63408 14:32 I agree that nethack needs a less intimidating options menu 14:32 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63631 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63636 14:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:55 <@IceBox> or at least an organized options menu 14:55 <@IceBox> shits terrible 14:56 <@Dracunos> As long as it's keyboard only 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:65192 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65193 15:01 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 15:03 -!- smaudet17 has joined #hardfought 15:03 -!- smaudet17 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:65539 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 3538132 points, T:65560, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1533665096.nh361.txt 15:12 <@IceBox> grats! 15:12 <@Dracunos> Thanks 15:13 <@Dracunos> Not sure what I did, but thanks ice box, I appreciate that 15:13 well done nooodle! Go Team Nymphets! ♥ 15:18 <@IceBox> drac i think you should be congratulated every day just for bein here 15:18 <[Demo]> yey 15:20 -!- introsp3ctive1 has joined #hardfought 15:21 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:22 -!- introsp3ctive1 has left #hardfought 15:23 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5302 points, T:7083, killed by a wererat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:12 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1171 16:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:40 You see here a plastic piece of cloth. 16:41 orly? 16:41 !whereis hothraxxa 16:41 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl]: (Hea Gno Fem Neu) T:4228 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 16:41 <[Demo]> plastic cloth 16:41 <[Demo]> polyester? 16:41 aosdict did a pretty good job of preventing akward material conflicts in xnh 16:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:45 [Demo]: Maybe it's nylon. 16:46 <[Demo]> dude i dont know what clothing materials even are 16:47 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 16:48 [Demo]: There's different ones. Good clothing is generally 60/40 cotton polyester blend, except for underthings, which can be 100% cotton, and stuff like shoes (leather and such). 16:48 However, there are a lot of other materials. 16:49 100% polyester is a thing. You can't stand to wear that if it's above about 40 degrees, because you will broil in your own sweat. But it exists. 16:49 There's nylon, which is *supposed* to be used for things like backpacks, but some idiots make clothing out of it. 16:50 There's rayon, which is kind of like polyester. 16:50 There's leather, which is appropriate for shoes and belts but occasionally gets used for other clothing. 16:50 There's PVC, which is supposed to be for pipe, but occasionally gets used for clothing for reasons that I do not understand. 16:50 <@Dracunos> Emergency rain coats are plastic 16:51 Isn't PVC good for rain coats 16:51 Oh, yes, rain coats are a good example of something that would be made out of a not-usually-for-clothing material. 16:51 <@Dracunos> I wouldn't call it cloth though 16:51 Polyurethane or something. 16:51 Same kind of stuff you'd make an umbrella from. 16:52 PavelB: I think piece of cloth is still a problem, actually, but it's one of the few remaining. 16:53 jonadab: isn't polyurethane a liquid finish 16:53 Oh, there's silk. Some people actually like the feel of silk, but to me it feels slimy and icky. 16:53 I am pretty sure that's what I have used to coat wood 16:53 aosdict: It's used for a lot of stuff. Plastic bags, for example. 16:53 But it could be used for a wood sealer too, I imagine. 16:53 I think they may also make bottles out of it? 16:54 It's one of the more common plastics. 16:54 Oh, they also make foam mattress pads out of it. 16:54 Versatile stuff. 16:56 Oh, there's also wool. In principle you can make clothes out of wool, if you don't mind going gibbering mad from the itching. 16:57 silk is really light, that's why I like it 16:58 jonadab: I have more than enough wool sweaters, it's not uncommon 16:59 PavelB: Do you also have burlap socks? 16:59 Naugahyde pants? 16:59 A necktie that automatically gets slowly tighter and tighter the longer you wear it? 17:00 I don't get to chose what my family get me for christmas ok 17:00 Ah. 17:03 "more than enough", where "enough" is 0 and "more" is half a dozen 17:11 so splicehack still has minesflayers :( 17:12 oh it's peaceful *phew* 17:13 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby yellow dragon, on T:5646 17:13 *sigh* 17:14 perfectly good cape ruined 17:14 jonadab: stop dreaming up real life EPIs 17:14 where am i gonna get another plastic cloth cape? 17:17 hothraxxa: they also have minesgnolls 17:17 yeah i know 17:26 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 17:35 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 17:46 -!- information14 has joined #hardfought 17:46 -!- information14 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 17:56 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:12 I like the late-game lichens... epic lichen or something? 18:14 <[Demo]> legendady 18:14 <[Demo]> alliteration 18:18 oh yeah 18:18 !tell AntiGulp legendary lichen corpses aren't immune to rot like regular ones 18:18 Will do, Luxidream! 18:20 oh right I noticed that and forgot to tell him 18:21 <[Demo]> what else should grass do? 18:22 the Keystone Kops should be busy mowing it. 18:23 <[Demo]> I never seen 12 mow the gras 18:24 <[Demo]> only shit they be mowing is minorities 18:24 but if you walk on any patches of their "lawn" they'll get angry and "tell you to get off their lawn". 18:24 <[Demo]> sounds like watchmen but old geezers 18:25 <[Demo]> that could make for a very funny special level inclusion 18:25 <[Demo]> shopkeeper like names for the old man and he yells at you if you step on his lawn and says a bunch of funny old man shit 18:26 I'm sure there's a treasure trove of angry old man phrases to be found on the internet somewhere. 18:32 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 18:35 aosdict: real life EPI: glass caltrops, for use in shower stalls. 18:36 real life EPI: clothing made from fabric that shrinks every time you wash it, no matter how many times it's already been washed. 18:36 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:37 -!- fford19 has joined #hardfought 18:37 -!- fford19 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:38 real life EPI: contact lenses made from rock salt 18:40 I was just thinking that caltrops would be a worthy addition to vanilla. Something you can (a)pply to your current space which would reduce an enemy's movement rate. Great for fleeing. 18:40 caltrops could be a cool addition to nethack 18:40 jinx! 18:40 what do we do now? 18:40 spit over our shoulders or somethign? 18:41 bouquet: They would probably be a nonmagic tool with multiple charges? which creates a trap on your space, which handles all the nasty caltroppy effects? 18:41 YANI: ^ 18:42 ya, I'll defer to you for how best to implement it. I think something with charges might be easier than a stackable item. 18:42 single use per charge, destroyed when trod upon. 18:43 might be a little off the radar for vanilla, but definitely variant-worthy. 18:44 which roles would be best at using them? rangers probably? rogues? 18:45 rangers and rogues. 18:46 along these lines we could go full spy-hunter paraphenalia. Smoke screen: create a zone of blindness. Oil slick: cause monsters on oily spaces to fumble. 18:46 this is getting into slex territory. 18:50 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 18:54 aosdict: this is my third game that I've found a priest and altar either on the same level as or adjact to Ludios. Is that a feature of xnh? 18:54 or is it variant paranoia? 18:55 %s/adjact/adjacent/ 18:58 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 19:01 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:03 -!- Warped28 has joined #hardfought 19:03 -!- Warped28 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:03 real life EPI: long underwear made from fibreglass insulation 19:03 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 19:04 Guaranteed to keep you warm on hot summer nights. 19:07 bouquet: paranoia 19:14 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 19:14 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2473 is now approved and up in all its glory 19:15 <[Demo]> oh lord 19:18 ... and now I've lost the nhqdb tab in a sea of archwiki tabs 19:18 -!- Tarmunora__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:22 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 19:25 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30 -!- t0ne11 has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- t0ne11 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 20:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9817 20:34 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:57 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:08 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 21:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o FIQ] by ChanServ 21:08 Someone should go through the nhqdb and ruthlessly weed out all the ones that have nothing to do with NetHack. 21:09 and go post them on bash.org? 21:09 Also all the ones that are not interesting nor unique nor funny. 21:09 aosdict: Sure. 21:09 Or wherever. 21:09 Or, perhaps less controversially, sort the nhqdb into subcategories. 21:10 #2376 grrrrrrrr 21:13 -!- mrdata6 has joined #hardfought 21:13 -!- mrdata6 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 21:13 aosdict: pretty much every IRC conversation where slex is mentioned, gets submitted. 21:13 They don't all get approved. 21:14 * aosdict is partial to #2044 21:15 and yes, stenno's stated standard is to approve anything that isn't offensive or hate speech or spam or whatever, and let the votes decide the topicality 21:15 problem with that is when someone busts out the nymphet upvote brigade... 21:16 Or just floods the queue with ten billion quotes. 21:16 Most of which are uninteresting. 21:18 [hdf-us] [dyn] The Middle Finger of Elbereth (Luxidream) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 517092 points, T:59040, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-08-09%2021_18_16%2C%20The%20Middle%20Finger%20of%20Elbereth-Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20ascended.txt 21:25 EPI: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1567 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a demilich, on T:9388 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9493 21:42 gotta love luxidream character names 21:42 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:44 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o FIQ] by ChanServ 21:49 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 21:50 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:06 -!- tacco| has quit [] 22:52