00:00 there, I have now fixed the top half of the monk quest. and master kaen's part isn't awful so he can wait. 00:17 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34902 00:17 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34903 00:22 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:35115 00:23 -!- Luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26 <@IceBox> gotta love those woke bae gehennom rulers 00:32 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35344 00:34 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:35372 00:34 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:35375 00:40 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mephisto, on T:35769 00:41 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35842 00:49 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:51 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- Ryuzaki has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- Ryuzaki has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 01:00 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:36930 01:07 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Buer, on T:37171 01:09 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37293 01:13 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:37672 01:18 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38031 01:21 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38124 01:21 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38124 01:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:28 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:29 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:38389 01:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:38 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:38495 01:40 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:38513 01:43 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 694340 points, T:38562, killed by an orange dragon (with the Amulet) 01:44 wow 01:44 that was fucked up 01:46 fark 'n ell 01:46 <@luxidream> D: 01:47 <@luxidream> no way. Splice is evil 01:47 what happened? 01:47 Pestilence took me down to 2 hp 01:47 dragon finished me off 01:47 i couldnt nuje P because it had drank a potion of reflection 01:47 nuke 01:48 and the effect stayed with it even after reviving 01:48 just stupid bullshit 01:48 <@luxidream> that sounds like a bug 01:48 splicehack astral isnt any harder than vanilla 01:49 except maybe pestilence seemed a bit faster 01:49 and it rides a steed 01:49 that also attacks you 01:49 appropriate 01:49 fuckfuckfuckityfuck 01:50 ah, nvm. PLay another game and it'll soon be forgotten 01:50 been playing like a day one noob since junethack ended 01:50 <@luxidream> I threw away a run today too 😦 01:50 i'm done for awhile, i need to step away for a bit 01:50 <@luxidream> if it makes you feel any better 01:50 heh, it does seem to come in batches, doesn't it? 01:50 it doesnt 01:50 @luxidream 01:50 and yeah Grassy 01:51 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 01:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09 -!- Guest58860 has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- Guest58860 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:12 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32 <@ProzacElf> oh look 02:32 whee 02:37 -!- obserd has joined #hardfought 02:37 -!- obserd has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 02:47 -!- Luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 02:47 -!- Luxidream2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51 weevil patch idea: add bugs that eats trees 02:57 hah hah 02:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- Crawldragon has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 03:00 !ping 03:00 Elronnd: Pong! 03:00 bug_sniper: I think digging monsters can already "eat" trees 03:00 LarienTelrunya: you're showing up now 03:01 ah great :) 03:01 reminder to self: always identify with nickserv 03:01 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5066 03:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:6368 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law), 8838 points, T:7218, killed by a mumak 04:15 -!- noty_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:46 [hdf-us] [slex] bagun (Nob Ven Fem Law), 1915 points, T:1, quit 04:51 YANI: instead of becoming hostile, peaceful carnivorous monsters should just eat the food you throw at them. 04:53 YASI: you can leash peaceful and hostile monsters, but they can get angry and try to destroy the leash, e.g. by biting right into it :D 05:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:16 -!- subo has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- subo has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:33 -!- jfmcarreira11 has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- jfmcarreira11 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 05:56 -!- Crawldragon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.49.1/20171016030418]] 06:01 -!- puck___ has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- alkyl20 has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- alkyl20 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37 -!- steev13 has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- steev13 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:49 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- webbyz has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- webbyz has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 06:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:58 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:01 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:03 -!- april has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- april has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10 -!- L0j1k3 has joined #hardfought 07:10 -!- L0j1k3 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a food ration on an altar, on T:3353 07:50 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 07:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:53 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:55 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2125 points, T:4634, killed by a rothe 08:07 -!- sjohnson29 has joined #hardfought 08:07 -!- sjohnson29 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:10 -!- \mSg12 has joined #hardfought 08:10 -!- \mSg12 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:21 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Tou Hum Mal Cha), 282184 points, T:46260, killed by the wrath of Offler 08:21 :/ 08:21 too many late game deaths 08:21 we've upset the RNG somehow 08:45 -!- FuzzySockets has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- FuzzySockets has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:45 -!- ecrist1 has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- ecrist1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 08:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:10 -!- Death9169 has joined #hardfought 09:10 -!- Death9169 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2077 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3683 09:26 Whenever a message comes up about Groovejumper I imagine a record skipping 09:32 -!- Madkiss23 has joined #hardfought 09:32 -!- Madkiss23 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 09:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Mon Hum Mal Law), 27604 points, T:11579, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:31 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 10:44 -!- Anerag has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.x-git-37-ad7e447b - https://znc.in] 10:44 PavelB: which quest should I tackle next 10:45 I mean, I've only gotten to the valk one... 10:46 I don't even know what the rest look like 10:46 well what I _want_ to do with the valk quest will involve some massive but ultimately fun overhauling 10:46 think I will replace Ran-home with Khor's right now, it's already a complete level 10:47 just make some tweaks like adding grass 10:48 -!- change4 has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- change4 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50 good morning 10:50 And a good morning to you! 10:51 I got my drivers license yesterday and showed up at the office 45 minutes early which I suppose means I can play nethack until anyone else shows up :P 10:51 playing nethack on work time, an ancient and honored art 10:54 puck___: did you find userdata? It's https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/ 10:55 hi 10:55 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 10:57 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 11:07 PavelB: congratulations on drivers license! 11:07 Thanks! 11:07 my daughter got hers a couple of months ago and now she's driving her sister everywhere (they have an apartment together) 11:08 <[Demo]> dui? 11:08 she'd saved up to buy a second-hand car 11:08 My dad bikes to work every day so he leaves me his car 11:09 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6066 11:10 -!- Tangles is now known as Tangles_ 11:12 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 11:13 aosdict: what's the news on that feature request to help monks not hit with non-weapons? 11:15 rodney finger of death'd me last night after stealing my eyes of the overworld. I don't really care about the ascension since I'd already lost the weaponless conduct. 11:20 -!- Tangles is now known as Tangles_ 11:21 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 11:29 monks hitting with non-weapons? that's a problem? 11:31 to maintain weaponless conduct. It's too easy to accidentally hit with a pickaxe when digging. 11:33 oh well that's a weapon 11:33 <[Demo]> dig with ur fists 11:33 um 11:33 :) 11:33 I was stuck at finding a middle ground. How does NH4 do it? 11:33 My god, this floor has 3 fucking nymphs on it 11:34 I'm amazed most of my inventory is intact 11:34 *And* a leprechaun 11:34 <[Demo]> do cancelled nymphs not steal? 11:35 bouquet: Because ideally you want the game to say something like "Really break weaponless conduct?" without it being annoying to early game characters who are just trying to hit something 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4248 11:35 for the first time 11:35 <[Demo]> isnt that supposed to be part of the challenge though? 11:36 And now I don't have anything left 11:36 <[Demo]> i have a great idea, mass cancellation 11:36 PavelB: stay away from unnethack then :P 11:36 it has a nymph level 11:36 <[Demo]> not like cancelling mass like theres no church but like cancelling all the monsters on the level at once, or at least rolling against their MR to 11:37 I used to play un, didn't like it much 11:37 [Demo]: "cancelling mass like theres no church" bwahaha 11:39 aosdict: I was hoping there was a solution that could be toggled on/off. 11:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4827 11:40 Because *something* stole all my food 11:40 I don't much like the idea of making a whole option whose purpose is to preserve one conduct... 11:40 <[Demo]> i dont like paranoid water 11:41 <[Demo]> or maybe I do and it just shouldn't work while the beginner flag is set 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a black dragon, on T:6586 11:43 bouquet: maybe it could be folded into paranoid_confirmation:attack? 11:46 Maybe have an option like `paranoid_confirmation:conduct`, which warns you if you're about to do something that breaks any conduct? 11:46 -!- Tangles is now known as Tangles_ 11:47 could be annoying if you are going for a certain set of conducts 11:48 also I would have to insert code for every place a conduct is or may be broken for completeness 11:49 for instance, I *should* then add a paranoid confirmation if you are petless and about to read an identified scroll of taming with at least one untame monster in range 11:50 how about this: if you are a beginner according to the game, and you hit something with a weapon, no prompt. if you are past being a beginner and attempt to hit something with a weapon, it prompts you to confirm. 11:50 ...which may be how NH4 does it, come to think of it. 11:56 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:16544 11:58 what is a "beginner"? Under level 5? 11:58 !tell Chris_ANG I grepped the irc logs for your !tell messages since the beginning of July - https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/tellChris.log 11:58 Will do, Tangles_! 11:58 bouquet: less than 2000 points, or 1000 if you're a Wizard (no I have no idea why that is the way it is) 11:59 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 12:00 basically if you've been killing stuff with your preferred weapon or non-weapon, you'll get to 2000 fairly fast, before you would probably have a pick 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 9854 points, T:8960, killed by a fire ant 12:01 to answer why I think this particular conduct needs some attention... it's too easy to accidentally break weaponless conduct. Vegie conduct? Easy, don't eat meat, tins tell you what they smell like and give an option to discard. Illiterate conduct? Don't read or engrave. Atheism? Don't pray, sacrifice, or donate to a temple. Wishless? Don't wish. 12:01 <[Demo]> blind? dont put on the eyes of the overworld 12:01 <[Demo]> i could never do a zen game 12:01 foodless? Don't eat. 12:03 The other conducts are much easier to maintain. 12:03 it's fiq's typo vs thinko thing 12:04 Believe me, I tried. I unwielded when I wasn't facing a wall. 12:04 so, essentially you're saying that weaponless is unique in being the one conduct you can typo yourself into breaking? 12:05 as far as I've cared to really think about it, yes. 12:05 hmm... you could typo the wrong food and break veggie, or (in vanilla) typo an empty string at a wish prompt and get a random object 12:05 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) killed the ghost of groovejumper, the former Wizard, on T:17484 12:05 or typo the wrong letter when engrave testing a wand instead of X and break illit 12:06 yes! 12:06 raisse: well you're master of the gdfjh 12:06 but I do that sort of deliberately 12:06 :P 12:06 (that is, I avoid it when I'm trying to stay illiterate) 12:07 but if I had 5 zorkmids for every time I inadvertently wrote 'c' or 'z' instead of 'x' I could afford a scroll of identify 12:07 I believe the beginner flag is cleared after 2000 turns, not points 12:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3660 points, T:6129, killed by a soldier ant 12:10 Tarmunora_: it appears to be u.urexp (which is score afaik), not turns 12:11 Huh 12:11 From the nhwiki: 12:11 > Being a beginner is a condition of a single NetHack character. Characters that have never achieved 2000 score points (1000 if a wizard) are classified as beginners. 12:12 turns don't seem very fair, players progress at different speeds 12:12 <[Demo]> what if align cap was score based? 12:12 pacifist and weaponless are the two conducts that can be broken in the course of general game play (just moving around) since attack is the default when moving into a space occupied by a non-friendly mob. 12:12 What's the "best" race for a Ranger? 12:13 but the only person I could think of who'd still be a beginner and trying not to hit monsters while digging around with a pick, is a pacifist. 12:13 bouquet: well pacifist is also weird since you can _hit_ stuff normally as long as you don't kill it 12:13 Isn't there an option to disable moving to attack and requireing you to press F 12:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:14 yes but for monks, moving to attack is probably still what they want to do 12:14 s/monks/weaponless but non-pacifist monks/ 12:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:16 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:18627 12:16 I guess one could avoid breaking weaponless conduct if to simply wield a weapon broke it. But the conduct rule is "don't hit with a weapon". 12:17 and, for better or worse, pickaxes are considered weapons. 12:18 and there's plenty of players who have attempted the conduct but lost it due to an accidental pickaxe'ing 12:20 ok implemented a prompt that pops up if you're going to break the conduct as a non-beginner, and it works for applying the pick-axe too 12:21 gotta finish this ranger level before I push anything though 12:22 awesome! I'll pull a copy when it's ready and test it to death. 12:23 and then we'll see if any annoyed people start yelling at me about these annoying prompts why did I put them there whyyyyy 12:25 this is why we test in dev and not in prod. 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf lord, on T:22685 12:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:36 Why do I have 300 ping D: 12:36 300 ping because you gotta get that Sting 12:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 32 points, T:303, killed by a water moccasin 12:38 There were three fountains on floor one I couldn't resist 12:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 12:38 <@luxidream> Don’t fountain quaff 12:38 One fountain quaffing balance change I was considering was to make the chance of a friendly water demon start at almost nil and _increase_ with greater depth 12:38 D: 12:39 <@luxidream> that’s actually fire 12:39 <@luxidream> please implement this 12:39 <@luxidream> so when difficulty skyrockets on the ascension run I can actually get a wish 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23481 12:41 does friendly mean they'll give a wish, too? Or "just won't attack"? 12:42 water demons are either friendly and wish-granting, or hostile. no other options 12:44 What's even the point of fountains if you're not supposed to quaff from them *grumble grumble* 12:46 PavelB: Excalibur, mostly. 12:46 (Also, experienced players *can* exploit them later in the game, by being prepared.) 12:46 (It's just often not worth bothering.) 12:52 And don't quaff! Dip junk items if you're hunting for a wish! 12:52 I always forget about that 12:52 I should implement giardia as a disincentive for quaffing unknown water like fountains 12:53 What's giardia? 12:53 if you come across the water filter tool, you can drink them safely 12:53 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardiasis 12:53 o no 12:54 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 12:58 <@luxidream> is that what curses my inventory? 13:00 "This water's no good" quaffing? Yes. 13:00 Make it dysentery, so you can claim it as a reference to The Oregon Trail. 13:01 K2: when the army sends you marching around places, how do you clean your water? 13:01 <@luxidream> because dysentery was invented by oregon trail 13:01 like on drills, not in general 13:01 @luxidream No, it's just the most famous thing about the game, pretty much. 13:02 dysentery is considerably more fatal than giardia 13:02 I remember playing some oregon trail. "oh. benny has dysentery. now he's dead. great." 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 15528 points, T:8429, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:03 Cholera is another one that spreads mostly through contaminated water. 13:04 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:06 the army has an MOS that their job is specifically to purify water 13:07 they can utilize a mobile setup that can make drinking water for different sized elements 13:07 but its usually just cheaper to purchase bottled water 13:07 * K2 has had dysentery before 13:07 There are some locations where you would have to _import_ bottled water, because the local stuff isn't safe to drink. 13:08 Northern Brasil, for instance. 13:08 -!- puck___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:08 dysentery is basically diarrhea that you have no hope of controlling 13:08 yes, sometimes you filter water and it gets all the dirt and parasites and bacteria out... but there's still, like, industrial runoff in it. 13:09 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 13:10 Theoretically, a sufficiently good filter (I'm thinking reverse osmosis) should get most of that out. In principle. 13:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2047 points, T:3386, killed by a watchman, while sleeping 13:17 few years ago (2014) we had a big brigade level field exercise down in ft polk (louisiana), and our supply line was purposely cut off by opfor (the enemy) and the 'referees' were not allowing higher to bring in water. big stink over that because it caused legitimate heat casualties 13:17 the platoon i was with, we found a group of trees that can been burnt from a lightning strike/forest fire. we harvested a bunch of the charcoal from it, put it in a clean sock and filtered pong water with it 13:17 *pond 13:18 it sort of worked 13:18 s/can/had 13:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1660 13:22 K2: hm, you don't carry iodine tablets or similar for emergencies? 13:23 we didnt at the time. we didnt think we'd be cut off from water supply, was just a training event, not real world 13:25 Also, that isn't a part of the world where you particularly expect water availability issues. 13:26 Any place between the Atlantic and the Mississippi, you take water for granted, normally. 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Hum Mal Law), 156 points, T:591, killed by a wand 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:4644 13:31 one day on my recent hike there was a long section that was through dry woods and residential roads with nobody home. granted, if I desperately needed water I could have stolen some from an outside spigot, but still... 13:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5357 13:34 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 13:35 aosdict: Right, if you were severely dehydrated and on a military operation, you probably would've taken some water for your men. 13:36 (I do normally carry water when I walk to any place more than about 15 minutes' walk from home, in the summer time.) 13:36 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:23789 13:36 (But I carry one bottle, typically 20oz. Because I know I can stop somewhere and refill it if necessary.) 13:37 there were also places where you _could_ filter water but probably would never want to unless you were dying of heat exhaustion. like a four inch deep stagnant puddle, or a nearly dry brook. 13:37 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 13:38 In Ohio, it's hard to walk in a straight line for more than 20 minutes or so without crossing a stream. 13:38 Granted, most people are hesitant to drink that water. 13:38 <[Demo]> and rightfully so 13:39 Eh, in most cases the worst thing in it is mud. 13:39 Admittedly, I'd feel better about it if I had a filter. 13:39 <[Demo]> i think ive played in a stream in ohio before 13:40 It does depend where you are, and how big the stream is. Smaller streams are typically cleaner than larger rivers. 13:40 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:40 I will also not filter water from a river if I can at all help it. You will end up with industrial runoff. 13:40 Where I live, all the rivers have their headwaters within a couple of miles of here. 13:40 <[Demo]> where i live the drinking water comes from the river 13:41 Sure, ours comes from reservoirs, which get it from rain and rivers. And the rivers get it from rain. 13:41 There's nothing better for drinking or bathing in than a great mountain stream 13:41 I was on a hike just the other day. 13:41 My friend: "Do you *really* trust that that water from some random stream in the middle of nowhere is safe?" 13:41 Me, a dumbass: "No, but I trust first world medical care" *quaffs stream* 13:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:7409 13:41 PavelB: ...and then you got giardia? 13:41 aosdict: There are no mountains here. It's pretty flat. But it _is_ near the Mississippi/St.Lawrence divide. 13:42 <[Demo]> ive drank from like proper mountain springs and ive been fine 13:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 27248 points, T:7605, killed by a tiger 13:42 I was fine. We were high in the cascade mountain range and it was a fast moving, clear stream. 13:42 Literally, all the water in rivers and streams here fell from the sky as rain within two miles. 13:43 It wasn't a spring, it was snowmelt 13:43 yeah, in cases like high mountain streams you're _probably_ good... but something upstream still might have infected the water. 13:43 So it's got mud and possibly whatever the nearby farms are putting in their fields. 13:43 Oh, and maybe ChemLawn, heh. 13:43 Better to filter it all, rather than get diarrhea for weeks. 13:44 But yes, if you're using groundwater, it's a good idea to boil and filter if you can. 13:44 boil *or* filter. Don't need to do both. 13:44 But needing to use groundwater would also be pretty rare here. 13:44 My water bottle was empty and there wasn't shade for at least a mile 13:45 I mean, in the northern two thirds of Ohio, how far can you actually be from the nearest public drinking fountain? Five miles, maybe? 13:46 Especially these days, when gas stations *all* have to have convenience stores. The ones without went out of business in the nineties. 13:46 Well, I don't know Ohio geography much at all, but if you're on a hiking trail, it generally tries to *avoid* civilization and water fountains and convenience stores 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2551 points, T:2517, killed by an Uruk-hai, while sleeping off a magical draught 13:47 <[Demo]> urban hiking 13:47 That's a thing i do a lot 13:47 Not like, on purpose or anything. 13:47 I just go to the store and get lost on the way there 13:47 <[Demo]> thats probably some dumb hipster term or something 13:47 aosdict: Yes, but the hiking trails have to wind their way around and go in circles, to avoid those things. 13:47 Even in the state parks. 13:48 don't you have like, forests or something 13:48 or is Ohio just boring 13:48 Kind of? 13:48 <[Demo]> south ohio is fun i think 13:48 I mean, there's Mohican. 13:48 <[Demo]> i think they are hicks down there 13:48 Southeastern Ohio has more forests, yes. 13:48 I think you can be up to a mile from the nearest road, down there. 13:48 <[Demo]> i hear theres a lot more yeehawing there 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 53 points, T:177, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted newt 13:48 And in some cases the roads don't have houses and businesses all along them. Up here they all do. 13:49 How long does it take for you to drive to southeast ohio? 13:49 jonadab: All I mean to say is that if you're on a more than one day hike, you especially aren't going to take the extra distance and effort to go hunt down cold drinks at a convenience store 13:49 PavelB: A couple of hours maybe? 13:49 <[Demo]> pretty sure ohio is pretty small 13:49 <[Demo]> compared to real states 13:49 It's 69% of WA state, according to W|A 13:49 [Demo] lives in texas confirmed 13:50 *62.9% 13:50 <[Demo]> ok so its actually bigger than i thought 13:50 <[Demo]> usually the map lies about how big things are 13:50 To get to the less-populated part of Ohio from here you have to go past Columbus (the north edge of which is about an hour south of here) then go southeast for a while. 13:50 it ranks 34th in total area 13:51 <[Demo]> its in a very convenient shape for travel 13:51 True. 13:51 It's roughly the size of new york state 13:51 <[Demo]> its not like some of those states that have a far south west point like 6 hours from the north east 13:51 Also, ODOT knows their business, so driving in Ohio is generally pretty straightforward. 13:51 jonadab: thanks for providing an accessible copyable implementation of khor's ranger home level 13:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1761 points, T:2616, killed by a hill orc 13:52 aosdict: no problem. 13:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2838 13:52 aosdict: I was pleased with that level. 13:52 Who's khor? 13:52 PavelB: one of kerio's friends, but actually a decent guy. 13:52 <[Demo]> a cool guy that made some cool maps 13:52 * PavelB doesn't know who kerio is either 13:52 <[Demo]> i like orc mine end enough that he must be cool 13:53 kerio is the guy who admins ascension.run 13:53 he is in this channel as khoR_ 13:53 Khor is from Barcelona, IIRC. 13:53 And has designed several NetHack levels. 13:54 jonadab: I'm trying to decide, behind Monk-home, Monk-locate, and Ran-home, what the next worst quest special level is to redesign 13:54 <[Demo]> monk home 13:54 Didn't you do monk home already? 13:54 He said "behind", as in, those are top, what's next after them. 13:54 <[Demo]> he did monk end i guess 13:54 <[Demo]> oh neatoo 13:54 yes, all three of those I have redone 13:54 <[Demo]> lol 13:54 <[Demo]> monk end i guess 13:55 I didn't do monk end, it's just lava and master kaen and that's not important enough to tackle 13:55 <[Demo]> why dont you like ran home? 13:55 imo monks should get extra attacks per turn based on their level and skill 13:55 and throw in a kick attack 13:55 yet 13:55 ranger home would be fine if you could cut the trees down. 13:55 aosdict: bar goal? 13:55 <[Demo]> in ndnh they get an extra kick attack at gm with martial arts 13:55 jonadab: Ooh, good idea, I even have a design ready to go for that one. 13:55 <[Demo]> and it uses your kick so if you have on kicking boots or any artifact boots that give bonus kick effects you get it 13:56 <[Demo]> pair with hammerfeet and enjoy 13:56 K2: cue the "Waaaaaah why do I now stone myself kicking cockatrices I didn't knoooooow" 13:56 Cav quest levels are mostly not awesome as well. 13:56 What was the overhaul you mentioned you were planning for the valk quest? 13:56 heh 13:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:4190 13:57 if you can code monsters to not bite footrice with their bite attack, you could do the same with a monk special kick attack 13:57 Also, Kni quest is pretty uninspired, level design wise. 13:57 PavelB: broad strokes of the plan are at https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/Quest_level_redesign#Valkyrie 13:57 Oh cool 13:57 [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:25560 13:58 PavelB: specifically I wanted to do special rainbow coloring for Bifröst which would be cosmetic and unnecessary but awesome 13:58 aosdict: Oh, Rogue locate. 13:58 <[Demo]> rogue home is so cool 13:58 <[Demo]> its gotta be one of the best quest homes 13:58 Rogue home and goal are ok. 13:58 Rainbows are pretty great, yeah 13:58 <[Demo]> dont make it too fleecy 13:58 the most coding-intense part of the planned Valk-locate is making the bridge repair itself once Surtur's dead 13:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4702 13:59 Oh, the Sam quest special levels are pretty uninspired too. 13:59 <[Demo]> you think? 13:59 <[Demo]> the locate isnt that bad 14:00 jonadab: The planned Rogue locate has some quirky mechanics, but I guess I could just implement it without them for now 14:00 namely, you have to rogue your way into a town past the watchmen 14:01 Oh, see also Wiz locate. 14:01 Wiz locate isn't fun but at least it's unique 14:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19508 points, T:5022, drowned in deep water 14:01 Bar goal should be the next target definitely 14:01 <[Demo]> yeah bar goal is yeahh 14:01 then maybe Cav since I have already redesigned those 14:02 The impression I'm getting is that the dev team really did not care about quest design 14:03 The quest was probably added by someone who wasn't the world's greatest level designer, and they just did what they could come up with. 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4030 14:03 Some of it may have been intended as placeholder and then just never got improved. 14:03 <[Demo]> sal locate is my original work here and it sucks but maybe it could inspire something for an xnh role https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/master/dat/Salamander.des 14:03 3.6 level parser does let you do some more nice stuff. 14:03 Some, yes. 14:03 Not as much as I want, but it's an improvement over the 3.4 level parser. 14:04 But yes, I want to go hunt down the person who added the Monk quest and shake them around a bit asking why they thought that was a good idea. 14:04 But I don't know enough YACC to trust myself to port it over, and anyway what I *really* want is to replace the YACC-based level compiler altogether. 14:04 <[Demo]> it was a placeholder 14:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 123 points, T:443, killed by a large mimic 14:07 I've come to appreciate YACC somewhat. For showing and enforcing the grammar. 14:09 > Yet Another Compiler Compiler 14:09 I feel like software naming is a lot less interesting these days 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3391 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:28413 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1495 points, T:2764, killed by a gold golem 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5541 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] barleywine (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5236 points, T:4967, quit 14:28 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 39583 points, T:8565, killed by a death ray 14:55 K2: pushed updates to levels and weaponless confirmation for Beholder 14:55 erm, for bouquet. darn tab completion 14:55 bouquet: since you're playing monks, eager to see what you think of the new levels 14:56 * PavelB starts reading patchnotes 14:56 ok 14:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5212 15:02 xNetHack updated (all servers) 15:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7278 15:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold shaman, on T:10551 15:20 <@luxidream> aosdict: I broke the valkyrie quest 15:20 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:20 <@luxidream> it displayed messages about lord surtur dying 15:20 <@luxidream> then loaded a maze 15:21 uh 15:21 <@luxidream> I was getting weird messages about completing the quest on the portal level as well 15:21 what triggered this 15:21 Can't tell if 'It reads: Error reading "rumors".' is a bug or a YAFM 15:22 <@luxidream> not sure 15:22 likely a bug 15:22 <@luxidream> I just walk into dlvl 13 15:22 <@luxidream> get a garbled mess instead of the usual portal stuff 15:22 could be both 15:22 <@luxidream> I find the portal 15:22 oh you know what, K2 just reinstalled 15:22 The next fortune cookie went "It reads: NetHack rumors file closed for renovation." 15:22 if that happened while you were playing... 15:22 <@luxidream> walk in, Lord Surtur curses me, the game opens a maze 15:22 And the one after that 15:23 <@luxidream> aosdict: was the valk quest revamped? 15:23 I'm guessing rumors broke for the same reason 15:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21284 points, T:10988, quit 15:24 "Error reading" is not in either rumors file 15:24 <@luxidream> should it be okay now if I play 15:24 <@luxidream> start another run 15:24 <@luxidream> or should I wait 15:24 nothing now is being reinstalled so yes 15:24 <@luxidream> cool I'm back in then 15:25 the only recent gameplay changes are to the Ran and Mon quests but of course a regular reinstall would have replaced every .lev file 15:25 sorry 15:29 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 30115 points, T:15728, killed by a Grey-elf, while fainted from lack of food 15:41 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- winny1 has quit [Quit: rebooting bai] 15:48 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 15:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4810 15:52 Only took 10 fountains 15:53 > True to her word, the Oracle casually says: 15:53 > "NetHack rumors file closed for renovation." 15:53 Lol 15:53 aosdict: That message should say *xNetHack* and not NetHack, no? :P 15:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4208 15:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:4302 15:56 Chameleon becomes an arch lich and curses my stuff 15:57 look I'm not going to go through the entire code base and search for every conceivable place that the string "NetHack" could appear in game and change them all to "xNetHack" 15:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5112 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5140 15:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5711 16:00 It spawned an immobile monster ;-; https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zpQELeQI/image.png 16:01 I can't get out 16:01 Any ideas? 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5049 points, T:6016, killed by a soldier ant 16:04 drop most of your stuff, squeeze onto the boulder, kill it 16:04 you'll lose a point of luck of course 16:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:8920 16:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:6117 16:07 FUCK YEAH RANDOM WAND WAS POLYMORPH I AM SAVED 16:09 <@Tone> pavelB Go upstairs and dig down would also work 16:09 Didn't have a method of digging 16:09 If I did I'd have destroyed the boulder 16:09 <@Tone> oh I didn't realize the level wasn't cleared, carry on 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8136 points, T:6288, killed by brainlessness 16:10 ._. fuck 16:10 !lastgame 16:10 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PavelB/xnethack/dumplog/1533754236.xnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh361/dumplog/1533758836.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1532261897.dnh.txt 16:11 K2: I'm getting 403 forbidden from ^? 16:12 * PavelB adds `MSGTYPE=alert "Your brain is eaten!"` 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1390 points, T:1927, killed by a water moccasin 16:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11179 16:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11181 16:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11184 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 472 points, T:693, killed by a gnome 16:24 PavelB wait a minute from the time your game ends, it'll be readable 16:24 Oh yeah works now 16:24 as in literally 60 seconds 16:24 Good to know 16:25 Why does it wait a minute? 16:27 there's a bug with dgl, it doesnt always apply the correct file permissions to its log/ttyrec files 16:28 we run a cronjob once a minute every minute to look for and correct those 16:28 NAO does it too 16:29 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:12703 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12703 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of levitation", on T:12721 16:32 how do you get mojo all the time lol 16:32 stenno: Message from @luxidream at 2018-08-01 21:03 EDT: I made sub 2hr fight me 16:32 but hearthstone 16:32 i should i guess 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased scrolls of genocide", on T:12724 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:12725 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:12726 16:32 yes yes 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 134558 points, T:12726, killed by a scroll of genocide 16:32 errrrr 16:32 lmao 16:33 sorry man 16:33 <@luxidream> mind flayers are U 16:33 <@luxidream> fuck 16:33 oh right that too 16:33 xnh 16:38 no regrets on my part 16:39 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:39 PavelB: [backscroll] What Tone said would have worked, you could just have jumped down a hole instead of digging. 16:40 Good to know for next time 16:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 16:40 I get trapped in soko at an alarming frequence 16:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:46 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4359 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4773 16:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8312 points, T:6895, killed by a tiger 16:57 -!- zombifier has joined #hardfought 17:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:07 this should not work 17:08 what shouldn't 17:08 okay nvm I can still speak. huh 17:08 have been away for a year plus now 17:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1603 17:10 just saw the notice that the channel is silenced and wanted to see if I indeed cannot chat. ignore that message 17:10 there's a concerted spam attack on freenode at the moment, yes 17:10 anyway I saw that there are two new variants - based on 3.6 this time! 17:11 hasn't been that bad for years tbh with the spam 17:12 I make one of said variants 17:12 yeah I saw :) I'm gonna spend the next hour or so eating the XNethack changelog\ 17:13 read its wiki page rather than the changelogs, I recommend 17:14 and if you want to know why something is the way it is, read the commit messages I guess 17:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2851 17:16 Isn't the wiki page somewhat outdated? 17:17 mmm... 345e04d 17:18 new stuff not documented on the wiki page is really just new/updated levels 17:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4760 17:23 putting commit hashes in the wiki edit history was a great idea 17:25 When was the last time you merged nethack upstream? 17:25 There's a new YAFM related to spinach tins, which is clearly incredibly important :P 17:25 uhhh I'm still waiting on FIQ to help sort out the getobj patch merge conflicts I think 17:26 I have a branch called merge_vanilla, will check it out to see what's there in a bit 17:27 hmm I may have fixed them. but there's that bug Hrogar or whatever his name was found, which I am not sure whether it came from the mainline getobj patch 17:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 38398 points, T:7051, killed by an energy vortex 17:36 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 17:47 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1295 points, T:1842, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 200 points, T:340, killed by a bat 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 5274 points, T:6519, killed by a fire ant 18:00 -!- x49F has joined #hardfought 18:00 -!- x49F has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:3132 18:02 -!- manish10 has joined #hardfought 18:02 -!- manish10 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:02 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1063 points, T:1936, killed by a bolt of fire 18:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5312 18:11 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Loki, on T:5920 18:16 -!- Lumpi1 has joined #hardfought 18:16 -!- Lumpi1 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 18:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:8501 18:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:8675 18:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:8681 18:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 75166 points, T:9682, petrified by a chickatrice 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed fixed greased scrolls of charging", on T:399 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:399 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:401 18:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of levitation", on T:411 18:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased wand of death", on T:412 18:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:420 18:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased corrodeproof ring of conflict", on T:583 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a triangular amulet on an altar, on T:3857 18:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2753 18:48 hah, lucky find with the quest portal there 18:49 <@IceBox> yeah like right next to the stairs 18:51 <@Tone> aosdict: What letter are leprechauns in xnh? 18:51 i 18:51 <@Tone> I like lizards on l 18:51 <@Tone> lowercase L 18:51 the much-Amy-complained-about "radioactive imps" 18:51 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51 luckily I have no plans to port unnethack uranium imps 18:53 * aosdict chuckles a bit about iron doors 18:54 <@luxidream> and I'm dead 18:54 dead really fast 18:55 <@luxidream> is there a way to destroy iron doors without lockpicking? 18:55 in general, no there is no way to *destroy* them 18:55 <@Tone> does digging work on them? 18:56 can't dig or bash them down 18:56 <@Tone> suppose not 😄 18:56 the one exception is if you make a chasm under them with a drum of earthquake 18:56 <@Tone> does disint work? 18:56 so, lockpicking, unlocking, or magic 18:56 <@Tone> not that it's ever an available option 18:56 oh and I believe disint does work 18:56 it disints other iron things like plate mails 18:57 <@Tone> and I suppose you can phase past it 18:57 yes 18:57 <@luxidream> I'm retarded 18:57 <@luxidream> I had polycont and poly 18:57 <@luxidream> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 18:57 <@Tone> damn 18:58 wizmoding shows that disintegration does work 18:58 so, that, and chasms. nothing else. (giants can't bash them down either) 19:00 <@luxidream> why not put the iron doors on the barracks inside 19:01 -!- Dracunos_ has joined #hardfought 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5926 19:02 -!- MuffinMedic14 has joined #hardfought 19:02 -!- MuffinMedic14 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 19:02 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 19:02 -!- attie has quit [*.net *.split] 19:02 -!- Dracunos has quit [*.net *.split] 19:02 -!- FIQ has quit [*.net *.split] 19:03 no particular reason I guess, except the player can kick them down if they want because they're not too important? 19:03 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 19:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o FIQ] by ChanServ 19:05 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 19:06 wield acid? 19:07 some variant allows this 19:07 <@luxidream> un lets you do that for iron bars 19:08 oh it's doors of which we speak. only xnethack has iron doors, no? 19:08 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:6481 19:10 yes, only it 19:11 xnh also has acid vs iron bars working, but I think that's 3.6.1 19:24 -!- tacco| has quit [] 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "a holy greased corrodeproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:43051 19:27 I made a Vim syntax hilighter for nethack's des files, if anyone is interested: https://github.com/copperwater/xnethack-extras/blob/master/des.vim 19:29 <[Demo]> yey 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 greased blessed greased rustproof greased scrolls of charging", on T:43054 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the holy greased fireproof +3 silver saber named GRAYSWANDIR", on T:43059 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the blessed rustproof greased bag of holding", on T:43061 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the holy greased fixed eyes of the overworld", on T:43080 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the fireproof +3 holy greased speed boots", on T:43148 19:40 nooodle: *the* holy speed boots? 19:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10820 19:55 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:45061 20:14 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:45153 20:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:16 -!- stenno is now known as Guest51940 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2918 20:21 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- Guest51940 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 905 points, T:3363, killed by a rothe, while praying 20:24 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a blessed greased fixed +3 pair of gauntlets of dexterity", on T:46051 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:15248 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:15255 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8569 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:17722 21:23 -!- Guest2966 has joined #hardfought 21:23 -!- Guest2966 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:9474 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9527 points, T:10607, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:18571 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:18661 21:46 <@Tone> I guess they didn't like Cleaver 😄 21:48 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 21:51 -!- Loki21 has joined #hardfought 21:51 -!- Loki21 has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 22:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- stenno is now known as Guest74948 22:18 -!- tripleslash has joined #hardfought 22:18 -!- tripleslash has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 22:21 -!- Guest74948 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:46934 22:38 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:25846 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25847 22:59 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 22:59 [hdf-us] [dyn] thumb (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 90 points, T:354, killed by a large kobold 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26648 23:04 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:28129 23:20 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28151 23:23 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:29143 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by turning to slime, on T:29221 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 509740 points, T:29221, turned to slime by a green slime 23:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:13289