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00:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:13317
00:08 <rld> <@IceBox> ohhhhh my god that was unbelievable. Lucked into guessing extra healing and then just beat juiblex to death with a corroded mace after they spawned in orctown
00:29 <PavelB> I finally got a keyboard with a numpad. How do I do `30s` with numpad on?
00:31 <attie> n30s
00:31 <attie> I think
00:31 <attie> never actually used numpad
00:33 <PavelB> Well, I'll try it. Ty.
00:35 <[Demo]> I played nethack with arrow keys and pgup/etc for like my first 12 or so yrs of it
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00:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:14658
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01:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4008 points, T:4668, killed by a gnome lord
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05:05 <raisse> yay elenmirie!
05:06 <raisse> I'm not getting anywhere with tourists at the moment
05:06 <raisse> er, I'm not getting anywhere at all 
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08:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a white dragon, on T:19241
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09:36 <K2> morning
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09:54 <Tangles> Hi K2
09:54 <Tangles> How goes it?
09:54 <K2> bleh
09:54 <K2> i have a new hatred for mac computers
09:55 <Tangles> worse than the old one, or just different flavour? ;)
09:55 <K2> at first it was a general distain
09:56 <K2> now its a specific full blown seething hatred for all things mac
09:56 <nooodle> question if anyone knows off the top of their head: does blessing a ring in vanilla make it less likely to be exploded by an electric shock?
09:58 <K2> i want to say yes
09:58 <K2> Tangles: how are things with you?
09:58 <Tangles> i want to say no ;)
09:59 <nooodle> i thought no as well, just curious though. It's been a long time since i source dived/dove
09:59 <Tangles> Actually blessing armor reduces chances of damage from fire traps, etc, so it might be the same for rings.
09:59 <Tangles> You'd have to source dive it to be sure.
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10:01 <Tangles> K2: I've been busy... trying to be less so.
10:02 <K2> same
10:02 <K2> still good for august?
10:02 <Tangles> Yeah definitely. Have to book cars and hotels and stuff still, but yeah the flights are locked in.
10:03 <K2> sweet
10:03 <K2> been slowly but surely un-fucking the mess in my house ;)
10:03 <K2> its mostly kids toys and such
10:03 <Tangles> hah
10:04 <Tangles> my house is the same, though it's mostly older kids toys.
10:05 <Tangles> oh and I have a large wall oven in the middle of my kitchen (it stopped working so I decided to pull it out and fix it myself), so that's fun.
10:06 <K2> hah
10:07 <Tangles> I could replace it but that costs money, and with the amount of research, shopping, organising delivery and install for a time someone's going to be home... it's actually less work to just fix it.
10:07 <K2> gas or electric
10:07 <Tangles> electric. I would not mess with gas.
10:07 <K2> get an induction range
10:08 <K2> i want one
10:08 <Tangles> heh. the stove top is gas, but that's working fine.
10:08 <K2> we have a gas range (propane) and my mother in law almost blew up our house a few years ago with it (left the gas on and it didnt light, filled the house with propane)
10:09 <Pinkbeast> My cooker's got a thermostat on each burner; if it's not hot and you're not holding the knob in, gas doesn't flow.
10:09 <Tangles> hah yeah you do have to be careful. the gas here has something added to it so you can smell it easily, and in small quantities (I guess that's the same everywhere)
10:10 <Tangles> Pinkbeast: yeah I've seen those. It's a good idea.
10:10 <Pinkbeast> I think that is normal practice everywhere since the switch from coal gas (which smells vile and is also highly poisonous)
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10:11 <aosdict> YASI: potions of propane, that create invisible but explosive clouds of propane gas
10:12 <K2> when you get here Tangles i'll tell you the whole story
10:12 <K2> but the fire dept wound up coming out, was that bad
10:12 <K2> ok back to work meh
10:13 <Tangles> yeah sounds bad.
10:13 <Tangles> good luck with the macs, K2.
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10:14 <Tangles> [Demo]: T - a figurine of a priest of Ghaunadaur. bless and apply, or polyfodder?
10:15 * Tangles has the treasury of proteus, so everything's polyfodder.
10:23 <Tangles> aosdict: Propane traps. "You are enveloped in a cloud of gas!" Hopefully you don't have a lit lamp or candle.
10:24 <Tangles> @d?dread seraph
10:24 <Tangles> still broken, then.
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11:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18431
11:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed historic partly eaten wand of death named EATSHITRODNEYMUAHAHAHA", on T:34735
11:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:34744
11:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34753
11:16 <hothraxxa> it's platinum
11:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19735
11:24 <hothraxxa> !tell antigulp i got "You the image of the shimmering dragon shimmers and vanishes!" in melee
11:24 <Beholder> Will do, hothraxxa!
11:29 <aosdict> hothraxxa: the bell of opening is platinum?
11:29 <hothraxxa> aye
11:29 <aosdict> ...how?
11:30 <hothraxxa> a question for antigulp
11:30 <hothraxxa> i'm assuming it won't matter
11:30 <aosdict> the object materials stuff is likely all copied from me
11:30 <aosdict> it won't matter but it's heavier than the normal one (under xnh rules)
11:31 <hothraxxa> this is why xnh needs to display weight
11:31 <aosdict> it's on the todo list
11:31 <hothraxxa> i had to calculate the weight of my silver shoes the other day
11:32 <aosdict> easy, they weigh less than 0 if you tap your heels and say "there's no place like home"
11:33 <aosdict> let's look at splice obj material
11:34 <aosdict> what is a quill?
11:34 <hothraxxa> there are porcupines
11:34 <hothraxxa> i think they're basically darts
11:34 <hothraxxa> i haven't messed with them
11:35 <rld> <@Tone> YASI:  Magic quills instead of magic markers
11:35 <K2> new weapon: blow dart gun
11:35 <K2> used only with quills
11:35 <hothraxxa> tone: and you have to find the ink
11:35 <K2> dip quill sin potion of sickness
11:37 <aosdict> sin potion of sickness. sounds like something a demon would carry
11:37 <hothraxxa> interesting. once i id'ed the bell of opening, i no longer see what material it is
11:37 <K2> YANI: new monster - poisonous tree frog. only found in trees. if you apply darts or other small weapons to them, you have a chance of their skin coating said weapons with poison (also a chance of it coating you instead)
11:37 <K2> *dip quills in
11:37 <hothraxxa> splicehack might have those already
11:38 <hothraxxa> if not, slex will have them by close of business today
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11:38 <K2> heh
11:38 <K2> if you attack them, their passive attack is poison
11:38 <aosdict> hothraxxa: oh, in splicehack the Bell of Opening is now platinum by default and appears as "platinum bell", presumably so infernals can use it
11:38 <K2> make you ill
11:38 <K2> ahh that makes sense
11:38 <hothraxxa> ah, that makes sense
11:39 <K2> jinx
11:39 <aosdict> jinx
11:39 <aosdict> jinx 
11:39 <K2> buy me a coke
11:39 <K2> jinx again
11:39 * hothraxxa dons a lead helmet of coincidence
11:39 * aosdict cannot sense hothraxxa with telepathy anymore!
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11:40 <aosdict> btw since the base material is platinum it probably means the weight isn't any higher than in vanilla, unless that was changed too
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11:44 <rld> <@IceBox> would a magic quill need magic ink?
11:44 <rld> <@IceBox> or could one or the other be magic?
11:44 <aosdict> magic markers resolve this problem by containing their own magic ink
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11:50 <PavelB> In my head I always visualize a magic marker as a bright yellow highlighter.
11:52 <rld> <@IceBox> i imagine it as a black label-less marker
11:52 <rld> <@IceBox> but when you write with it it's all kinds of crazy stuff
11:52 <rld> <@IceBox> rainbows and shit everywhere
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12:20 <PavelB> If you engrave something other than Elbereth, it should make the message eligible to appear in other people's games, like in Dark Souls.
12:21 <aosdict> have fun setting up that system though. like bones files but completely separate
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12:22 <PavelB> I don't think it would be as complicated as bones
12:23 <aosdict> also, what's the *point* of inter-game commmunication?
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12:23 <PavelB> There's no *point*. I just think it would be interesting.
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12:24 <PavelB> I'm going to see if I can implement that later.
12:24 <aosdict> do you really want to see "Something is engraved here on the floor. It reads: "play slex 2.2.8 now on esm!!! fleecier than ever!!!! *bundlebundlebundle*"
12:24 <PavelB> *yes*
12:24 <aosdict> LarienTelrunya: ^
12:25 <PavelB> I wouldn't go run off and play Slex, but I'd chuckle a bit.
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12:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:18690
12:31 <aosdict> YANI: foocubus encounters are alignment penalties for Monks
12:33 <hothraxxa> and for priests, they should be same sex
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12:43 <LarienTelrunya> aosdict: ♥ I'll add that to slex's random engravings! thanks!
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13:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:35608
13:09 <hothraxxa> nothing for eating him? i should get something for my trouble
13:09 <hothraxxa> i went to all the trouble of killing a purple dragon and dragging his scales down here for... a bad case of stomach acid? *facepalm*
13:10 <hothraxxa> i put them on too *pout*
13:13 <hothraxxa> k2: are you around?
13:14 <K2> sort of
13:14 <hothraxxa> i wanted to try something with the leprechauns, can you recover me if it doesn't work?
13:18 <K2> si
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13:24 <hothraxxa> so far so good
13:28 <K2> begone macbook! get away from my desk!
13:37 <hothraxxa> thanks k2. all leps dead, i'm rich!
13:37 <hothraxxa> off to see one eyed sam
13:38 <PavelB> K2: What's up with your macbook?
13:39 <K2> sweet
13:39 <K2> PavelB: i am forced to support 2 mac machines on our network now
13:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3971
13:40 <PavelB> Oh, do you do IT?
13:40 <K2> they're fine for games and music/videos and content editing, but they suck when trying to integrate into a corporate environment
13:40 <K2> yes
13:41 <K2> last few days have been a crash course in how to administrate one and set it up (i'm not a mac guy)
13:41 <K2> well... i sort of am one now
13:41 <K2> i know more than i did previously
13:41 <K2> and i know enough to truthfully say they suck
13:41 <PavelB> Whenever I use a Mac I just proceed as if it's a Linux machine and this inevitably leads to everything being on fire.
13:42 <K2> heh
13:43 <PavelB> Not that I have more success with Linux machines... I seem to break everything I touch
13:43 <K2> hahahah
13:43 <K2> i just finished up setting up this new macbook for our new director of marketing
13:43 <K2> its now shipped thank god
13:44 <K2> at first i told him no, you're not getting a mac, use a pc like everyone else
13:44 <PavelB> One of my laptops doesn't have wifi, the other ones' keyboard doesn't work, my desktop crashes at somewhat regular intervals, and my work laptop is pinned at 100% cpu usage at all times for seemingly no reason
13:44 <K2> and then one of the VP's stepped in and said yes get him a mac
13:45 <K2> so I relented, but told them if we're going to start supporting macs, it would be done our (IT's) way
13:46 <PavelB> My coworker has a desktop with two GPUs that he's doing machine learning with and my laptop's fans are louder than his just sitting on the desktop with no windows open.
13:46 <K2> and then director marketing guy started whining because he wasnt an admin on the machine
13:47 <K2> he lost that battle
13:47 <K2> i really fucking hate macs
13:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:567, killed by an arrow
13:47 <K2> i need to stop because i could bitch about them all day
13:47 <PavelB> If I had to use a computer I wasn't admin on, I would do all my work on another computer and copy it over tbh
13:48 <hothraxxa> in the 80s my wife has a classroom full of apple ][s that i wound up administering
13:48 <hothraxxa> i have hatted all things apple ever since
13:48 <hothraxxa> er
13:48 <hothraxxa> heted
13:48 <hothraxxa> yes. heated.
13:48 <K2> heh
13:49 <K2> i remember using an apple ][c and ][g
13:49 <hothraxxa> i looked at the apple dos code. it was self-modifying
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 122813 points, T:31167, choked on a hill orc corpse
13:49 <K2> oh shit
13:50 <introsp3ctive> K2: I could listen to you hate on Macs all day. It's music to my ears.
13:50 <hothraxxa> the worst fucking thing you can give to someone trying to read a core dump
13:50 <K2> introsp3ctive :)
13:50 <hothraxxa> also, three words: great god jobs
13:51 <K2> that was in the code?
13:51 <introsp3ctive> speaking of admin, am I wasting my time setting up a terminal-only linux machine with anything other than ubuntu server?
13:51 <K2> introsp3ctive absolutely not
13:51 <K2> plenty of flavors of linux to try
13:52 <K2> FIQ likes archlinux
13:52 <K2> i personnaly like ubuntu
13:52 <hothraxxa> k2: no that is just how i refer to the miserable oligarch
13:52 <K2> hothraxxa ah
13:52 <introsp3ctive> I just edited the grubfile on an ubuntu-mate install to boot into "text" and restarted after doing update-grub. it spit a shitload of text out when I started it back up, showed the login screen for like a second, then hung for a while before just going to the regular gui login screen
13:52 <introsp3ctive> Not really sure what to do now
13:52 <K2> hrm
13:53 <K2> which version of ubuntu?
13:53 <K2> 18.04 is out now fyi
13:53 <K2> 'bionic beaver'
13:54 <introsp3ctive> yeah ubuntu mate 18.04
13:54 <K2> ah
13:54 <K2> yup do not have experience with that (yet)
13:55 <introsp3ctive> I have this old laptop that I was going to set up as a little bit of a cloud server type thing so I can access shit remotely and log all my IRC channels. Just basic stuff. No need for a GUI on it.
13:56 <K2> i have an old netbook i should wipe and put 18.04 on
13:56 <K2> and at some point i want to dual boot my main rig (win10 / ubuntu 18.04)
13:57 <introsp3ctive> I've been on it for a couple weeks now on my main laptop and I've not had a single issue so far.
13:58 <K2> good to know
13:58 <PavelB> I will always complain about Ubuntu's outdates software
14:00 <introsp3ctive> Guess it just depends on what you need to get out of it. I pretty much don't use anything other than my terminal, a browser, an email client, and a program that lets me do whatsapp, discord, and facebook messenging on. 
14:01 <PavelB> I don't *need* Python 3.7. I will likely never use a Python 3.7-exclusive feature. But having Python 3.6 installed bothers me *so much*.
14:01 <introsp3ctive> why?
14:05 <PavelB> I don't know. It just does.
14:05 <PavelB> I need latest everything.
14:06 <PavelB> I run a ton of beta software
14:06 <PavelB> ^ why everything I own is broken
14:06 <introsp3ctive> Ah you're one of "those people"
14:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Mal Law), 9200 points, T:6916, killed by a soldier ant
14:07 <introsp3ctive> !gt ant
14:07 <introsp3ctive> wait does beholder have a go team emote?
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3257
14:07 <Luxidream> go team carrying capacity!
14:08 <introsp3ctive> lol
14:10 <K2> introsp3ctive no it doesnt
14:10 <K2> didnt want to copy every function from rodney
14:10 <introsp3ctive> fair enough
14:11 <PavelB> The worst thing is Fedora Rawhide. I know there exists a more recent version of Fedora than the one I have, but Rawhide is just not usable some days.
14:19 <Lymia> Keeping outdated versions of software in the repo (beyond 1-2 weeks for packaging, etc) seems like a bad policy.
14:19 <Lymia> It's not about features, it's about bugfixes.
14:19 <Lymia> "those people" care about not having to worry about bugs fixed 6 months ago :v
14:19 <Lymia> Which was half my experience with Debian.
14:25 <PavelB> Meanwhile Raspberry Pi is sitting on Python 3.4
14:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Vam Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1877
14:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Vam Mal Non), 4602 points, T:1988, killed by a small silver dagger
14:28 <rld> <@rikersan> wow silver is strong vs vampires
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10107 points, T:5659, killed by a fire ant, while praying
14:34 <rld> <@IceBox> orctown should, like, be it's own conduct
14:34 <rld> <@IceBox> just having it in your game
14:34 <rld> <@rikersan> or just rmeove it?
14:34 <LarienTelrunya> but orctown is the best minetown variant!
14:35 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah, like it should be some shitty optional conduct for all the other masochistic players to do the crazy conducts
14:35 <rld> <@IceBox> i get it, it's neat, but there should be some sort of guaranteed general store SOMEWHERE to offset it and keep the difficulty curve average
14:36 <rld> <@rikersan> amy: not dangerminetown?
14:36 <oh6> general store's not guaranteed even without orctown
14:36 <rld> <@rikersan> I'm still pissed I killed the dragon once and no scales dropped
14:36 <rld> <@IceBox> in certain games (like my priest one currently), the game is just explicitly, unequivocally harder because of orctown
14:36 <LarienTelrunya> rikersan: well I was referring to 3.6.x... not sure what I'd consider the best slex-specific minetown
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14:37 <rld> <@rikersan> ah
14:37 <rld> <@IceBox> oh6, i see that you're right...but i'll take a 90% chance over a 100% chance of it not existing
14:39 <oh6> I know that if you're super-unlucky with orctown there may be no shops at all, which makes ID'ing scrolls really annoying
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14:40 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah that's the situation i'm in
14:40 <rld> <@IceBox> there's a potion shop
14:40 <rld> <@IceBox> and that's it, all the way up to medusa
14:41 <rld> <@IceBox> scrolls were fine because i waited long enough to quantity-ID identify
14:41 <rld> <@IceBox> i wanna polypile rings but A.) i dont have many and B.) no way to price ID to see if i even have good ones
14:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2420
14:43 <hothraxxa> i had a shopkeeperless ascension
14:43 <Luxidream> I think I've had one zero shop game. it wasn't very fun
14:43 <hothraxxa> it sucked
14:44 <Luxidream> confused scroll reading to try and find identify
14:44 <aosdict> isn't that *really* dangerous because of genocide?
14:44 <Luxidream> well I blessed it first
14:44 <hothraxxa> icebox: in that game i relied on quantity-id for identify.
14:44 <Luxidream> blessed confused genocide works normally
14:45 <hothraxxa> the scroll most common, the first one i read? destroy armor
14:45 <hothraxxa> fortunately i had prepared for that
14:46 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah that's what i did too hothraxxa
14:46 <rld> <@IceBox> didn't read a single scroll until DL:19 or so
14:46 <rld> <@IceBox> and then i read the one i had 6 of and it was identify
14:46 <oh6> if you have at least one shop you can throw non-breakable items in and buy them back after determining the price
14:47 <rld> <@IceBox> i dont have at least one shop, haha
14:47 <rld> <@IceBox> and the one shop i have is a potion shop (so quite breakable)
14:47 <oh6> well, you can ID potions in there by dropping them, so that's OK
14:47 <hothraxxa> no he means you can thnow anything in there for price-id
14:47 <rld> <@IceBox> oh really? i didn't get that
14:47 <oh6> yeah, like, stand on the entrance square and thrown in a scroll or whatever
14:48 <hothraxxa> i do that all the time once i have a lot of money/credit
14:48 <rld> <@IceBox> nice, i dont have a lot of money, but i could probably put together some things i want to identify and then kill the shopkeep
14:48 <rld> <@IceBox> bought some protection, but i would've saved it if i knew that trick
14:48 <rld> <@IceBox> thanks oh6, a tiny speck of light in the darkness of no shops!
14:48 <hothraxxa> this is much simpler with a pet
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:22982
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15:04 <rld> <@IceBox> with the exception of maybe fireball, should i just polypile these books?
15:04 <rld> <IceBox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/473928953762152457/unknown.png
15:04 <rld> <@rikersan> light is useful to train divination but useless otehr than that
15:04 <rld> <@rikersan> detect unseen does do secret doors iirc
15:05 <rld> <@rikersan> healing is useful to keep esp. at 3% fail
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15:05 <PavelB> idk what wizard lock even does tbh
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15:06 <rld> <@IceBox> me either, i think it's like wand of locking though
15:06 <rld> <@rikersan> locks stuff
15:06 <rld> <@rikersan> and closes doors while you're at it
15:07 <rld> <@rikersan> oh and fixes broken doors
15:07 <hothraxxa> wizard lock can be useful
15:08 <hothraxxa> eg i will use it to put doors in all the entrances to my stash altar
15:08 <hothraxxa> or cut off something that's chasing you
15:08 <hothraxxa> healing is good because 3 healing is better than 1 extra healing
15:09 <hothraxxa> for the same power iow
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] groovejumper (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 14100 points, T:4819, killed by a wolf
15:10 <hothraxxa> light is handy for illuminating your target for stinking cloud or fireball 
15:10 <hothraxxa> a wand will do for that
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3387
15:12 <hothraxxa> remember to mark the books you read after polypiling, because polying it counts as a read
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pri Inf Fem Law), 1561 points, T:1584, killed by a giant spider
15:18 <hothraxxa> hah! i see a tree with some pears on the ground next to it. naturally i had to kick the tree. Some apples fall from the tree!
15:18 <Pinkbeast> It's a tree of many talents.
15:18 <aosdict> they're pretty closely related I guess.
15:19 <rld> <@rikersan> grafted branches?
15:19 <aosdict> ^
15:19 <aosdict> YANI: if trees' fruit can be made deterministic, occasionally generate some on the ground next to a tree.
15:19 <hothraxxa> it's splicehack. i'm still living in fear of master mind flayerarch liches
15:20 <hothraxxa> which reminds me to prep a scroll of genocide
15:20 <aosdict> remind me what those are again. amalgamations?
15:20 <hothraxxa> aberrant creatures
15:21 <hothraxxa> white Q
15:21 <aosdict> "aberrant creature" isn't a base monster type
15:21 <hothraxxa> oh yeah? tell that to antigulp
15:21 <aosdict> I think it's amalgamations since those are the only white Q
15:22 <hothraxxa> yes, i'm referring to the game description
15:22 <PavelB> xnh Q is called Abberations, right?
15:23 <aosdict> no, xnh U is aberrations
15:23 <PavelB> RIght
15:23 <PavelB> Q is elves
15:23 <rld> <@rikersan> U in dnh is unknown abominations
15:23 <aosdict> (umber hulks were already aberrations in D&D so it fit nicely)
15:23 <hothraxxa> the correct description is actually aberrant being
15:24 <PavelB> I actually ran into my first Umber Hulk ever in my last game
15:24 <hothraxxa> not creature. i misrecalled
15:24 <aosdict> well, what I know is the D&D terminology
15:25 <PavelB> What does a Quantum Mechanic look like?
15:26 <aosdict> they don't exist outside of nethack so we don't really know, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:Quantum_mechanic.png is the default tile
15:26 <aosdict> which makes them look like a derpy alchemist imo
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15:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:7533
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8520
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of levitation", on T:8529
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15:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 63320 points, T:8631, killed by a gas cloud
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15:40 <rld> <@luxidream> green dragons are so broke
15:40 <rld> <@rikersan> pois resis is one of the easiest resistances tho
15:41 * aosdict contributes 5 zorkmids to the Green Dragon Anti-Poverty Fund
15:41 <Luxidream> well I was speedrunning I didn't have it
15:41 <rld> <@rikersan> next time maybe try removing the lev ring over a trapdoor
15:41 <rld> <@rikersan> you can drop into the valley, come back up and heal a bit I think
15:42 <rld> <@luxidream> didn't think of that
15:42 <Luxidream> okay
15:42 <rld> <@rikersan> hold up what's with irc vs normal
15:42 <Luxidream> whoops. I should close discord lol
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15:46 <rld> <@Tone> Green dragon guarding the castle armory?
15:46 <rld> <@rikersan> ya
15:46 <rld> <@rikersan> the poison cloud got him when he was trying to escape from that corridor
15:46 <rld> <@rikersan> made it to the doorway but something was blocking his way, rip
15:46 <rld> <@Tone> How do the gas clouds work again, do they move or are they static along the path of the ray?
15:47 <rld> <@rikersan> static along the path, they last only a couple turns
15:47 <Luxidream> static
15:47 <rld> <@rikersan> and unreflectable iirc
15:47 <Luxidream> if you're not poison resistant they do quite a bit
15:47 <Luxidream> as i learned today
15:47 <rld> <@Tone> oh they don't reflect
15:47 <rld> <@rikersan> yep
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15:47 <rld> <@Tone> If they did I figured they'd be reasonably avoidable
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15:47 <rld> <@rikersan> iirc the poisonous blast itself may be reflectable, but not the clouds that fllow
15:49 <Luxidream> in any case I was at 35:00 with a 0:1 wand. it wasn't a great situation either
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:25782
15:51 <rld> <@rikersan> congrats lol
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15:59 <Grasshopper> Dragonbane isn't too bad in 361, it grants reflection when wielded
16:00 <rld> <@rikersan> ya
16:00 <rld> <@rikersan> and it does unrestrict broadsowrd skill, he has orcrist
16:00 <Grasshopper> not sure that's an upgrade from Dragonbane, but hey yeah beat up those orcs! :D
16:02 <Grasshopper> You can roll yourself a +9 Orcrist (or Excalibur) if you are patient enough to do some polypiling
16:02 <Grasshopper> well, a lot of polypiling
16:02 <rld> <@rikersan> hah, dnh has a guarenteed +12 one
16:03 <Grasshopper> lol, OP all the way yay
16:03 <rld> <@rikersan> yep
16:03 <rld> <@rikersan> it's great too, there's now a nameable 2x vs elemental long sword
16:03 <Grasshopper> wow
16:04 <K2> dlvl 3 and i've found 2 wands of polymorph and also started with one
16:04 <K2> nuts
16:04 <rld> <@IceBox> if i'm not getting "you have a hopeful feeling" messages when sacc-ing does that mean the prayer timeout has been reset?
16:05 <K2> yup
16:06 <rld> <@IceBox> and then when you get the "you have a feeling of reconciliation" message you can pray immediately, right?
16:07 <rld> <@IceBox> i think getting crowned...for once, is the right move for my game right now
16:07 <K2> yes either the reconcilliation message or no msg at all
16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:26274
16:07 <K2> just you sac your corpse
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16:09 <rld> <@IceBox> got it!
16:09 <rld> <@IceBox> i'll do my best anhur...you sure aren't making it easy on me, ya jerk
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16:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1014 points, T:2947, died of starvation
16:14 <K2> i feel like it takes less time to become hungry in 3.6.1
16:14 <aosdict> confirmation bias
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32439
16:14 <aosdict> grats on the death that wasn't while fainted from lack of food though
16:14 <K2> noticed it in xnethack as well as splicehack
16:15 <K2> aosdict: where in the code determines food/hunger settings
16:15 <K2> you know off top of your head?
16:15 <aosdict> many places, but none that changed in 3.6.1
16:16 <aosdict> the actual ticking hunger clock would be in allmain.c somewhere
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16:18 <rld> <@Tone> hmm I haven't noticed any differences in 361
16:18 <rld> <@Tone> Did splice tweak spell hunger at all?
16:20 <aosdict> K2: I don't think adding a new terrain type is going to break saves, will it?
16:20 <K2> i dont know
16:20 <K2> test it
16:21 <aosdict> argh I'm leaving soon and would like to push this
16:21 <K2> should be able to test it fairly quickly
16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26743
16:24 <PavelB> aosdict: Push it anyway and don't ask K2 to update xnh until you've tested it
16:25 <aosdict> but then I still have to test it, and can't go back and fix anything locally
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16:28 <aosdict> doesn't look like it
16:28 <aosdict> ok pushed. K2: ready for update
16:29 <K2> ok
16:30 <PavelB> Aww, only changes are exclusive to a role I don't play
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16:35 <rld> <@IceBox> dudes peaceful demons are so annyoing
16:35 <rld> <@IceBox> *and dudettes
16:35 <rld> <@IceBox> especially with stormbringer
16:38 <aosdict> PavelB: Of all the quests, the Monk's needs the most love.
16:42 <rld> <@rikersan> !race dnh
16:42 <Beholder> @rikersan: dwarf
16:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non), 0 points, T:53, killed by a black pudding
16:44 <[Demo]> blood pudding
16:46 <PavelB> !role
16:46 <Beholder> PavelB: nh13d valkyrie
16:46 <rld> <@rikersan> !role
16:46 <Beholder> @rikersan: nh361 ranger
16:46 <[Demo]> I've never ascended an r of any capitalization and it makes me sad
16:46 <[Demo]> they r hard
16:46 <rld> <@rikersan> yes
16:47 <rld> <@rikersan> esp. in dnh
16:48 <[Demo]> nah they are easier there
16:48 <[Demo]> everything is easier in dnh
16:48 <rld> <@rikersan> really?
16:48 <rld> <@rikersan> hm
16:48 <rld> <@rikersan> I don't think daggerstorms scale very well in dnh
16:49 <rld> <@rikersan> demo: I guess dnh does let you start with silver daggers, which is nice
16:49 <Grassy> tip: used autopickup and pickup_thrown for r/R
16:49 <Grassy> makes life soooooo much easaier
16:49 <rld> <@rikersan> hm, I might turn on "dagger"
16:50 <Grassy> easier even
16:50 <rld> <@Tone> Pickup thrown picks up too much for me, I throw too many things I don't want back 😄
16:51 <Grassy> haha, just learn to turn it off
16:51 <rld> <@Tone> I do have autopickup exceptions for things I name "ammo" or "autopickup" though
16:51 <[Demo]> gnr
16:51 <[Demo]> nuff said
16:51 <rld> <@rikersan> no
16:51 <rld> <@rikersan> they're actualyl retarded
16:51 <rld> <@rikersan> mainly carrycap but still
16:51 <PavelB> I could have sworn there was a seperate rule for picking up `f`ired stuff vs `t`hrown stuff
16:52 <rld> <@rikersan> i swear chris has a gnome and drow kink
16:52 <Grassy> yeah, you can leave pickup-thrown off and call your daggers/arrows "ammo" an set the autopickup exception
16:52 <[Demo]> they get over early game hump easily
16:52 <rld> <@rikersan> if I throw silver daggers in a scroll shop will he try to take them
16:52 <Grassy> I used to do that when playing 343 in devnull
16:52 <[Demo]> after that it's smooth enough sailing
16:53 <[Demo]> gnomes have a weight cap of like 400 though so yeah you just have to adjust play to deal with it
16:53 <rld> <@rikersan> ya
16:53 <PavelB> @rikersan iirc yes
16:53 <rld> <@rikersan> is the spellbook ward crash in hdf demo?
16:53 <PavelB> !who
16:53 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 [spl] rikersan [dnh] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361]
16:53 <[Demo]> no
16:54 <[Demo]> that's an oward migration feature
16:54 <[Demo]> a change ndnh took on too
16:54 <[Demo]> sans the crash
16:54 <rld> <@Tone> I think you are safe if you throw them while in the shop already
16:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 426 points, T:821, killed by a gnome lord
16:55 <rld> <@rikersan> alrighty then
16:55 <hothraxxa> i don't think os. anything thrown in a shop becomes the shopkeeper's
16:55 <rld> <@rikersan> yes but what about things he won't buy?
16:55 <rld> <@Tone> Ah nevermind then
16:55 <rld> <@Tone> I always throw from outside for some reason
16:56 <hothraxxa> rikersan: see scrollback. this is how you use a potion shop to id rings
16:56 <rld> <@Tone> If I want to buy it back
16:56 <hothraxxa> thrown from outside is also his
16:56 <rld> <@rikersan> doesn't do anything if you throw something in a shop looks like
16:56 <rld> <@rikersan> I just wiztested
16:56 <rld> <@Tone> Just don't use a ring shop to ID potions :P
16:56 <rld> <@rikersan> well, as long as you're stnadin in the shop you're ok
16:57 <hothraxxa> rikersan: try a weapon
16:57 <rld> <@rikersan> I just did, with silver daggers and a deli
16:57 <rld> <@rikersan> he just took them silently if I stood on the door square (in front of the door, inside the room but not the shop boudns)
16:57 <hothraxxa> interesting. i swear i've had the shk claim my daggers, and also, that's what the wiki says
16:58 <rld> <@rikersan> maybe 3.6
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16:58 <hothraxxa> oh what are you playing?
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16:58 <[Demo]> I'm gonna play a gnr
16:59 <rld> <@rikersan> dnh
16:59 <rld> <@rikersan> really? ok then
16:59 <rld> <@rikersan> I'm startscumming for silver dagger rogues
17:00 <rld> <@rikersan> also, demo: sad thing i learned, hellfire doesn't work with small bolts (only standard)
17:00 <[Demo]> what
17:01 <[Demo]> issue
17:01 <rld> <@rikersan> yes
17:01 <rld> <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG hellfire doesn't work with small bolts, only normal sized ones
17:01 <Beholder> Will do, @rikersan!
17:01 <[Demo]> wait the bolts have to match the bow
17:01 <rld> <@rikersan> also demo what's so great about gnr
17:01 <[Demo]> for ammo_and_launcher
17:02 <rld> <@rikersan> ya
17:02 <[Demo]> crossbow is op
17:02 <rld> <@rikersan> wait, hold up what?
17:02 <rld> <@rikersan> so sizes are ignored for any launcher
17:02 <rld> <@rikersan> tha'ts dumb
17:02 <[Demo]> ok i made that up sorry
17:02 <[Demo]> but its probably true
17:03 <[Demo]> hmm yeah im not sure why i thought this wasnt gonna be a bitch
17:04 <rld> <@IceBox> i guess i should be proud, but this has just been the most ridiculously hard game so far. Why did an arch-lich spawn in castle?
17:04 <rld> <@IceBox> cuz i'm lvl 14?
17:04 <aosdict> no because it makes random Ls and mkclass is bugged out so it doesn't always respect difficulty
17:04 <rld> <@rikersan> it's a rrandom L
17:04 <rld> <@rikersan> ya
17:04 <rld> <@IceBox> well shit
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:697
17:09 <rld> <@rikersan> not bad
17:09 <rld> <@rikersan> but really not great
17:09 <rld> <@rikersan> that weighs a fuckton
17:09 <rld> <@Tone> Purple Ls at the castle, fun times 😄
17:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 282 points, T:874, killed by a hobbit
17:10 <rld> <@rikersan> alrighty
17:10 <rld> <@rikersan> demo this is a garbage combo
17:12 <[Demo]> yeah this sucks
17:12 <rld> <@Tone> I hope you weren't waiting for the castle wand to get MR
17:12 <[Demo]> im xp lvl 5 14 con and 22 max hp
17:12 <rld> <@rikersan> yeah fuck this demo I'm going to startscum rogues on local now
17:12 <rld> <@rikersan> for silver
17:12 <rld> <@rikersan> faster than hdf
17:12 <aosdict> ok leaving on trip, be back in a week or so
17:13 <[Demo]> bye
17:13 <[Demo]> good luck have fun
17:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2803
17:14 <rld> <@rikersan> > │You see here a metallic long sword named Tobiume.
17:14 <rld> <@rikersan> alrighty then
17:14 <rld> <@rikersan> I'll take that
17:15 <rld> <@rikersan> its' pretty garbage but ok
17:15 <rld> <@IceBox> i would never wait on purpose @Tone!
17:15 <rld> <@IceBox> ....but how else do i get it with the shit run i've had so far?
17:15 <[Demo]> ok so gnr im wrong about
17:15 <[Demo]> but incantifier is easy cause u dont have to use bow
17:16 <rld> <@Tone> Last time I saw one I got lucky and found a Cockatrice corpse while I was trying to come up with a solution
17:16 <rld> <@Tone> And I level ported straight back to the castle and prayed it didn't dust my gloves or touch of death me
17:16 <rld> <@IceBox> that's an option, camp the maze until one comes up
17:16 <rld> <@IceBox> at this point might be all i can do
17:16 <rld> <@IceBox> gonna hit up the quest now that i'm 14 and hope for something there
17:17 <rld> <@Tone> That's a good place to start
17:17 <rld> <@IceBox> i'm told the priest quest is one of the most treasure heay
17:17 <rld> <@IceBox> and with stormbringer i no longer worry about draining, so i'm makin the most here 😉
17:17 <rld> <@rikersan> tha'ts arch I think
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17:23 <rld> <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG yani: gnomes have a #monster "tinker" ability, it allows them to occansionalyl shrink armor to fit them
17:23 <Beholder> Will do, @rikersan!
17:23 <rld> <@rikersan> cc demo
17:23 <[Demo]> what do they have to spend to get stuff to shrink?
17:24 <rld> <@rikersan> idk, clockwork components?
17:24 <[Demo]> those suck
17:24 <rld> <@rikersan> those are buyable for clockworks, probably also other gnomes
17:24 <[Demo]> they are so shitty alnd flavorless and not a well balanced in the distributiion of item
17:24 <[Demo]> to use for anything
17:25 <[Demo]> in slashem gnomes spend time and it must be uninterupted
17:26 <rld> <@rikersan> tha'ts fine with me
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17:30 <rld> <@rikersan> demo: what about elven rangers? the quest is interesting
17:30 <[Demo]> maybe
17:31 <rld> <@rikersan> scratch that, the standard ranger one seems better
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "the greased fixed +3 holy holy holy mitre of holiness", on T:36119
17:38 <[Demo]> !tell Chris_ANG noble dwarf in 3.16.0 starts with the regular noble inventory as well as its dwarf one
17:38 <Beholder> Will do, [Demo]!
17:39 <rld> <@rikersan> already reported
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3570
17:39 <[Demo]> lol
17:39 <[Demo]> that means he has to hear it twice which means hell have to fix it twice as har
17:40 <[Demo]> wth i started  with 7 co
17:40 <rld> <@rikersan> lol
17:40 <rld> <@rikersan> gnr?
17:40 <[Demo]> shedrow noble
17:41 <rld> <@rikersan> > a +5 cloak of displacement (being worn) (unpaid, 199 zorkmids)
17:41 <rld> <@rikersan> rngesus what
17:43 <[Demo]> oh this is a very good bug
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17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3683 points, T:5055, killed by a titan
17:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:36727
17:48 <[Demo]> dwa nob with max con and str and 19 dex OP
17:49 <rld> <@rikersan> really?
17:50 <rld> <@rikersan> how?
17:52 <[Demo]> cause it adjusts ur str and con if u start with too much stuff
17:54 <rld> <@rikersan> oh really
17:54 <rld> <@rikersan> tha'ts a fun bug lol
17:55 <[Demo]> i am so op
17:55 <[Demo]> just slow
17:55 <[Demo]> damage output and tohit seems unreasonably high
17:55 <rld> <@rikersan> lol nice
17:55 <rld> <@rikersan> oh it really is
17:55 <[Demo]> guess its the str and dex
17:56 <rld> <@rikersan> just wait until you get the crowning gift + QA
17:56 <rld> <@rikersan> it's quite nice
17:56 <rld> <@rikersan> even with no limited moon you're still great
17:56 <[Demo]> im gonna go for dwarvish lords
17:56 <[Demo]> and use crowning as a pick replacement
17:59 <rld> <@rikersan> hm really? alright
17:59 <rld> <@rikersan> durin's is silvered tho
18:00 <[Demo]> doesnt do double damage
18:00 <[Demo]> and is a weak base item
18:01 <rld> <@rikersan> true
18:01 <rld> <@rikersan> oh I didn't catch that dwarvish was a battleaxe ok
18:01 <[Demo]> yeah and its good and comes back to you
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18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2000 points, T:1721, quit
18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 75 points, T:229, killed by a jackal
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 992 points, T:2028, killed by a dwarf
18:22 <K2> xNetHack updated (all servers)
18:22 <[Demo]> yeehaw
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18:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 727 points, T:1230, killed by a water moccasin
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18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "the holy greased fixed amulet of reflection", on T:38045
18:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1578 points, T:2897, killed by a dwarf zombie
18:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pri Inf Fem Law), 987 points, T:3376, killed by a rope golem
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:38746
18:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of fencing gloves on an altar, on T:3970
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18:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6143 points, T:4196, killed by a soldier ant
18:54 <bouquet> K2: is the 0.3.0 xnh changelog in doc/ all that's changed in what you updated?
18:55 <PavelB> bouquet: It's the 4 most recent commits.
18:56 <PavelB> So just grass and the monk quest changes
19:00 <K2> https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commits/master
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39578
19:08 <bouquet> Coolio, thanks
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19:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:41224
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41282
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20:57 <AntiGulp> Did 3.6.1 buff ghosts? It seems like they take forever to kill now.
20:57 <Beholder> AntiGulp: Messages from K2, aosdict, hothraxxa, @luxidream, and Luxidream have been forwarded to you privately.
20:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 2419 points, T:3348, centaur
20:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:2697
20:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:32438
21:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:134, hobgoblin
21:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:38, jackal
21:00 <AntiGulp> !tell hothraxxa That’s really concerning. Which version of splice are you playing on? I fixed lepruchauns in the hardfought version, I thought. I’ll try to fix it when I can, but this next week is hell for me and I may not have any time.
21:00 <Beholder> Will do, AntiGulp!
21:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:26, imp
21:01 <hothraxxa> AntiGulp: i'm on version 0.5.0-6
21:01 <Beholder> hothraxxa: Message from AntiGulp at 2018-07-31 21:00 EDT: That’s really concerning. Which version of splice are you playing on? I fixed lepruchauns in the hardfought version, I thought. I’ll try to fix it when I can, but this next week is hell for me and I may not have any time.
21:01 <hothraxxa> i found a way around the bug
21:02 <hothraxxa> k2 says you might have fixed it already in the current version
21:02 <AntiGulp> Ah, that’s why. 0.5.1-7 has the fix. I lost a really promising game on 0.5.0 to lepruchauns. Sorry, this update apparently broke lots of stuff.
21:03 <hothraxxa> never apologize, it's not necessary with me
21:03 <hothraxxa> unless you're canadian and can't help yourself
21:04 <[Demo]> yo antigulp does pirate have king of the hill effect on the treasury of proteus?
21:05 <AntiGulp> Pirate *should* function pretty much how it does in other games where it is implemented, so king of the hill *should* be in effect. 
21:06 <rld> <@luxidream> It does. I didn’t see any githyanki pirates but the game was crawling with skeletal and damned pirates
21:06 <[Demo]> yey!
21:06 <[Demo]> exceeds expectations
21:06 <AntiGulp> I changed the name of githyanki pirates to planar pirates because of fair use (not that that really matters a lot with nethack)
21:07 <hothraxxa> antigulp: does genociding a monster class mean that that class can no longer be part of an amalgamation?
21:07 <rld> <@luxidream> AntiGulp: do you know anything about the black market problems I was having?
21:07 <hothraxxa> i had a pet planar pirate for about 25 turns
21:08 <AntiGulp> hothraxxa: I’m going to guess no, but I would have to dig into the code to make absolutely positive.
21:08 <hothraxxa> because i do not want to meet a master mind flayerarch lich
21:09 <hothraxxa> i guess that's pretty much cthulu
21:09 <AntiGulp> luxidream: I haven’t been able to log on for several days, so I just saw it now. I think black market might be pretty buggy, and I want to fix it + chest weight as soon as I have time
21:09 <AntiGulp> hothraxxa: At least amalgamations / bad clones don’t inheret covetous behavior
21:09 <hothraxxa> oh one eyed same sold me a wand of wishing that was 0:2
21:09 <AntiGulp> good job Sam
21:10 <hothraxxa> aosdict thought it would be 1:0
21:10 <rld> <@luxidream> The code should be setting it to 1:0
21:10 <rld> <@luxidream> If you took it straight from un
21:10 <hothraxxa> fuck that code
21:11 <rld> <@luxidream> 😦
21:11 <rld> <@luxidream> Hey, you won right?
21:11 <hothraxxa> not yet
21:11 <hothraxxa> in most games i would say this healer is a slam dunk, but i don't know about splicehack
21:11 <AntiGulp> I’m writing out a list of these bugs
21:12 <AntiGulp> hothraxxa how far are you?
21:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1021 points, T:1192, gelatinous cube
21:12 <hothraxxa> i'm at ludios. i haven't reached medusa yet
21:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 108 points, T:113, orc
21:13 <hothraxxa> not sure which version of the lord of the foocubi i'll get
21:13 <rld> <@luxidream> you’re in better shape than I was when I finished the game
21:13 <AntiGulp> You’ll probably get the unnerfed one :(
21:13 <hothraxxa> i watched some of your game in the market. it was insane
21:13 <rld> <@luxidream> Oh yeah
21:13 <hothraxxa> AntiGulp: i beat the original version 
21:14 <rld> <@luxidream> Antigulp: is Sam supposed to summon soldiers on every melee attack
21:14 <hothraxxa> not sure how i did it right now
21:14 <hothraxxa> prolly wand of uprodney'sarse
21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:44907
21:14 <rld> <@luxidream> I used scrolls of time to beat it
21:14 <rld> <@luxidream> luckily I still don’t know what bob does
21:14 <AntiGulp> luxidream: That doesn’t sound right… I think I copied some pretty buggy code. I can try to tackle all the fixes next weekend, maybe?
21:14 <hothraxxa> yeah that was in my plans
21:15 <rld> <@luxidream> Antigulp: no rush I just wanted to ask
21:15 <rld> <@luxidream> also I noticed the demon lords stopped being covetous
21:15 <hothraxxa> i had a razor dragon raping me, so a scroll of time got me out of that
21:16 <[Demo]> time is useful so much
21:16 <rld> <@luxidream> I’m sure people complained about having to beat demogorgon every time but now they’re just too easy to skip
21:16 <hothraxxa> i like scrolls of knowledge too. those are great in the early game
21:16 <hothraxxa> razor dragon seemed to ignore my ac and my hp just vanished
21:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3346
21:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Hum Fem Neu), 2934 points, T:3712, killed by a fire ant
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21:39 <rld> <@luxidream> !tell AntiGulp: just FYI: gnolls being G can easily create minesflayer situations for the player
21:39 <Beholder> Will do, @luxidream!
21:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:45527
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21:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:45648
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21:43 <hothraxxa> where's my ops when i need them?
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21:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45906
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21:47 <PavelB> o no
21:47 <PavelB> they've reached #hardfought
21:48 <PavelB> (This has been happening in #fedora, #suse, and a few others consistently for over a week)
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21:49 <PavelB> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6wwiYImz/image.png
21:49 <bug_sniper> it's also been happening on irchighway
21:49 <hothraxxa> they've been here before
21:50 <PavelB> Must not have been as bad then
21:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:39230
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22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:46692
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22:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:47059
22:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3196
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22:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of °, the former Priest, on T:9563
22:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 3068 points, T:4096, killed by a Woodland-elf
22:21 <K2> silver runed broadsword gah
22:21 <K2> ,|,,
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22:27 <[Demo]> ban kick it
22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:10572
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22:35 <lorimer> You may want to set mode +qz $~a - this makes it so unregistered users can only be seen by channel ops
22:36 <lorimer> (k2/fiq/mandevil/tangles ^^) - a number of other channels have gone to this in the short term
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22:37 <Pinkbeast> lorimer: Thanks. (Regret not personally in a position to act on it)
22:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48790
22:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40533
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22:39 <FiendKing04> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
22:39 <FiendKing04> A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
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22:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) genocided R dungeon wide on T:11362
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22:54 <Luxidream> RIP hardfought
22:54 <Pinkbeast> Luxidream: Eh, it'll be over soon enough
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22:57 <[Demo]> all of freenode is under attack
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23:03 <K2> thanks lorimer
23:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:33667
23:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33765
23:11 <rld> <@luxidream> !asc icebox
23:11 <Beholder> @luxidream: [hdf-us] icebox has ascended 4 times in 258 games (1.55%):  nh361:3 (4.11%), fh:1 (5.00%)
23:17 <rld> <@IceBox> i wish i could reset those percentages post junethack 😉
23:17 <rld> <@IceBox> not that i'm too good yet...but better than 1.55% 😉
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23:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52261
23:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52265
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23:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:52271
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23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of 77 gold ‘, the former Priest, on T:14876
23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of leportatA, the former Priest, on T:14883
23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of °, the former Priest, on T:14887
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23:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52489
23:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:52553
23:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:52564
23:56 <rld> <@IceBox> does mithril count as metallic for the purpose of spellcasting?