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It misses the rock troll. 05:45 I didn't know archeologists were such messy eaters! 05:53 K2: I am trying to figure out the SpliceHack combos and I am failing. 05:53 K2: Samurai has this: MH_HUMAN | ROLE_MALE | ROLE_FEMALE | ROLE_LAWFUL, 05:54 K2: Yet clearly they can be angelic in Splice. 05:55 angel is probably defined as MH_HUMAN? 05:55 Uh? 05:55 Why? 05:55 What kind of logic is that? 05:55 in slex they are because I'm too lazy to make new MH_WHATEVER flags; might be that it's the same for splice :D 05:55 Amazing. 05:57 I am starting to understand. 05:57 But why would anyone want to program like this escapes me. 05:57 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:57 Imagine engineers who write code for the space shuttle would work like this. 05:58 "I am too lazy to write new code, let's just pretend we're something else here..." 05:58 well if the space shuttle crew indeed encounters aliens, the aliens will all think we're MH_HUMAN and we'll think they're MH_ALIEN I guess :D 05:59 I am not in a mood for jokes. 05:59 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 06:00 This is just letting someone else fix your laziness. 06:00 That attitude is very prevalent in SW development. 06:00 But that doesn't make it right. 06:00 'Nuff ranting for today. 06:03 !tell aosdict I think I found the "malicious" option which causes the loop. If I have the OPTIONS=force_invmenu set in the options file, everything goes nuts. It's not only the eat menu, it seems to affect the drop menu too. perhaps every menu with a selection dialog? 06:03 Will do, Hrogart! 06:07 !tell aosdict reproduced it on hdf-us with a default config file. only added OPTIONS=force_invmenu and there you go. 06:07 Will do, Hrogart! 06:20 lol, there's a ring of levitation in the titan's room 06:20 for people who arrive at medusa without one of their own, apparently 06:34 -!- Schrubber1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:14 Mandevil: antigulp has plans to completely redo character flags 07:24 argh, didn't need that 07:24 well, my Werebane is blessed +1 now 07:25 I had all the other things already (except the huge prayer timeout, of course) 07:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:31 -!- stenno is now known as Guest26206 07:35 -!- Guest26206 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:38 (wide open big room which I can see completely) "This place looks familiar..." 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:66014 08:13 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:20 K2: BTW, when you're selecting characters.... when you select e.g. 'merfolk', the screens shows race as 'human'. 08:20 K2: Looks like the whole thing is one big bug. 08:24 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- raisse is now known as Guest95823 08:24 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:24 -!- Guest95823 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:39 K2: https://scoreboard.xd.cm/firstasc.sph.html 08:41 good morning 08:45 nice Mandevil 08:45 i know infernal role choices have already changed 08:46 happened right after antigulp fixed its race type 08:59 You see a giant fly fly out of your pack! Its cries sound like "daddy?" 08:59 xD 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9336 points, T:9101, killed by a troll 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1049 points, T:1396, killed by a killer bee 09:23 Hrogart: ok yeah I think I can reproduce it now 09:23 aosdict: Message from Hrogart at 2018-07-27 06:03 EDT: I think I found the "malicious" option which causes the loop. If I have the OPTIONS=force_invmenu set in the options file, everything goes nuts. It's not only the eat menu, it seems to affect the drop menu too. perhaps every menu with a selection dialog? 09:23 aosdict: Message from Hrogart at 2018-07-27 06:07 EDT: reproduced it on hdf-us with a default config file. only added OPTIONS=force_invmenu and there you go. 09:23 :) 09:23 thanks for zeroing in on it 09:24 np, hope it is helpful to you 09:24 darn, I was hoping this happened in vanilla too 09:25 because then it wouldn't be my fault 09:26 I don't think I ever touched any of this code though so I still suspect getobj patch 09:27 i noticed that your variant is the only one which gives me an extra menu before the "normal" inventory menu appears 09:28 i don't get the [,] menu in vanilla or spl 09:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:28 if there is something edible on the ground it's the first to be asked for to eat 09:29 weird, does force_invmenu override the menustyle full? 09:29 Because menustyle full is supposed to make that not happen. 09:30 FIQ: ^ 09:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:31 -!- stenno is now known as Guest98385 09:36 -!- Guest98385 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:67942 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Sam Hum Mal Law), 75 points, T:509, killed by an exploding rune 09:51 ehehehe 09:53 exploding rune? vanilla? 09:53 yep 09:53 apparently 09:53 it was a copper spellbook 09:54 ah 09:54 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:00 argh I evaporated my WW boots 10:00 thought they were +3 but they were +4 10:00 fortunately it's not the only pair in the world 10:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Excess Flood] 10:01 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:03 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 10:43 <[Demo]> high rollah 10:48 !tell acidgulp Fudd eats a guardian naga hatchling corpse. Fudd looks very healthy. is this intended? does fudd have poison resistance now? 10:48 Will do, hothraxxa! 10:51 d - a pair of silver dwarvish boots 10:51 for kicking the undead i presume 11:02 !who 11:02 introsp3ctive: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] | [hdf-eu] stibbons [spl] nickgrim [nh343] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 11:03 You hit the yeti. You hit the yeti. It explodes! 11:22 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:23 hothraxxa: acidgulp? 11:23 fuck did i do that again? 11:23 !tell antigulp Fudd eats a guardian naga hatchling corpse. Fudd looks very healthy. is this intended? does fudd have poison resistance now? 11:23 Will do, hothraxxa! 11:23 <[Demo]> not sure which is cooler name 11:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:24 it's confusion with a similar nick in another channel 11:24 -!- stenno is now known as Guest16945 11:24 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:25 acidgulp sounds... painful 11:26 it's not acidgulp there either, it's acidspaces 11:29 now combine them again to get... antispaces! 11:29 which actually sounds pretty cool 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:70533 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:70534 11:31 -!- Guest16945 has quit [Changing host] 11:31 -!- Guest16945 has joined #hardfought 11:31 -!- Guest16945 is now known as stenno 11:42 dang xD 11:43 note to myself: never ever fiddle around with the fountains in minetown :))) 11:51 holy crap, a floating eye just went upstairs 11:51 eh? 11:51 splichack 11:51 +e 11:51 ah 11:51 I had a nymph escape the dungeon! With my sword! 11:52 !tell antigulp a floating eye just went upstairs. intended? what other monster might do this? 11:52 Will do, hothraxxa! 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71842 11:52 but I think that was in xn 11:52 xnh 11:52 nymphs use stairs in vanilla too, no? 11:52 yes, but I've never seen one the level 1 upstairs before 11:52 me neither 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71859 11:53 er, there should be "use" somewhere in there 11:56 @d?black pudding 11:56 black pudding (P) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification | Confers: cold shock poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 3d8 bite corrosion, 0d0 passive corrosion | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless 11:57 i've had a nymph escape with my stuff on dlvl 1 before 11:57 you'll never get it back 11:57 in theory then, you could lose the amulet 11:57 this was 3.4.3 though 11:57 maybe in 3.6.x you'll find them on the plane of earth 11:59 but *you* get to the plane of earth with the amulet 11:59 right 11:59 I think the stairs to the plane of earth work like the planes portals, you with the amulet or monsters without the amulet can use them but not vice versa 12:00 so... scrolls of resistance don't convey poison resistance. 12:00 what do they convey? 12:00 fire, cold, sleep and shock? 12:00 ..as this green dragon just told me not so politely. 12:00 cold, fire, sleep, acid... 12:01 acid but not poison? *boggle* 12:01 and shock 12:01 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Inf Fem Cha) became literate by reading Feet of Clay, on T:3675 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:72233 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:72238 12:02 incantifiers can't eat, so resistances are a little tricky, but a blessed scroll of resistance lasts 5000 turns (which seems not to be very long in dnethack, when you don't have speed or the ability to teleport). 12:04 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 12:04 Maybe I should just get crowned. 12:08 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a stone golem, on T:4424 12:08 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 12:09 Whoever “stibbons” is, I just found their bones 12:09 AntiGulp: Message from hothraxxa at 2018-07-27 11:23 EDT: Fudd eats a guardian naga hatchling corpse. Fudd looks very healthy. is this intended? does fudd have poison resistance now? 12:09 AntiGulp: Message from hothraxxa at 2018-07-27 11:52 EDT: a floating eye just went upstairs. intended? what other monster might do this? 12:10 hothraxxa: All monsters in splice have the same chances the player does of gaining resistances when eating a corpse. Its one of my favorite changes. 12:11 nice, i've lost pets to poison before 12:11 probably fire and cold too i guess, but not as memorable 12:11 neat 12:12 if he looked very healthy i guess he'd already got pr 12:12 question is, will he now eat corpses like kobolds? 12:13 I think the messages are still a bit buggy, it might give that every time they “gain” a resistance. Idk if he’ll eat kobolds, but I’d be interested to find out 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:72528 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:72529 12:13 OH NO HES BACK 12:13 thus breaking the pet ate it so it's safe thing 12:14 he's ignored kobold corpses so i'm guessing he won't 12:14 So I’m playing infernal pirate, and there’s a hill orc with a silver cutlass and wand of digging. He pops up out of nowhere and does like 30 damage, then when I try to kill him he escapes. He’s nearly killed me four times now 12:14 i mean, dogs don't know they're poison resistant, right? 12:15 I guess it must be hardcoded 12:16 probably, and if you didn't remove the check, pets won't eat poisonous corpses 12:18 i've been playing infernal wizard 12:18 havent died to silver damage yet 12:18 i keep dying to other stupid shit/poor choices 12:19 but i did notice the uptick in silver based items 12:19 (not just weapons, but everything) 12:19 Same, but I’ve come close. Watch out for hill orcs. They come in large enough groups that one of them usually has a silver weapon (as I have discovered) 12:20 do silver items weigh more? 12:20 AntiGulp I havent pulled the latest updates yet, waiting for a patchlevel.h change 12:20 like these silver dwarven shoes 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:73003 12:20 Check xnethack’s wiki page, it should say 12:20 ok so you're just used aosdict's materials 12:21 K2: I pushed a patchlevel change when I woke up, should be good to go 12:21 ah ok 12:21 rock on 12:22 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 12:23 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Inf Fem Cha), 4438 points, T:5053, killed by a wand, while sleeping off a magical draught 12:23 welp 12:23 hm. silver shoes seem to be 25% heavier than iron if i've done this right 12:23 roughly 12:24 going to push splicehack update now 12:24 sweet, thank you :D 12:25 once games on old version are done they'll cut over to new 12:25 and thats a fair amount of work, so please try to keep the save breaking updates down to a minimum ;) 12:26 I definitely will! I don’t wanna make people work ;( 12:28 heh 12:28 this is why you see gaps in version numbers here with slex 12:29 i've told this to Amy. I dont think she tells me about a new version anymore unless its something significant 12:30 Gotchu! Gah, sorry about all the pushes in the past. 12:32 no apologies necessary 12:32 AntiGulp: do splice shopkeepers only ever offer one price? 12:33 hothraxxa: I didn’t change the shopkeeper logic from vanilla, unless porting the black market somehow messed with things. 12:33 I think 3.6.1 shopkeepers don't vary their prices any more either 12:34 hm. maybe vanilla has changed? i don't play it much 12:34 it's been removed from some variants which i don't mind as long as i know about it 12:35 i see nothing about any change in the 3.6.1 changelog 12:35 3.6.0 had some sort of change to shop price rounding 12:36 yes doesn't affect this 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:8201 12:36 anway i've had no luck getting a shk to vary an offer in splice yet 12:36 Hmmm according to the wiki, prices are still variant. Maybe an unintentional change? I’ll have to do some code diving later today 12:37 i'm beeting it's just variant paranoia 12:37 and of course, a devious rng 12:38 “You pray to RNG, god of chaos” - Red Rogue 12:39 fudd keeps reaching level 9 12:39 i like tracking my pet's growth, but this is sort of excessive 12:39 !players 12:39 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] samiam [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] nickgrim [nh343] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 12:39 level 9 is cap for normal cats and dogs 12:40 hothraxxa do you mind saving your game and pausing for just a few min? 12:40 That seriously confuses me. The code for displaying pet level up is 3 lines long and super simple. 12:40 i know 12:40 need to copy over some spl files for the update 12:40 k2: sure one sec 12:40 i'm out 12:40 thx 12:40 !players 12:40 K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] nickgrim [nh343] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 12:40 this will only take a few min 12:41 do you need me to save? 12:41 (done it, anyway) 12:41 (RL reasons) 12:43 ok hothraxxa all set thanks 12:43 yw 12:43 raisse nope you were fine, only working on splicehack 12:44 so I just encountered a black light and then a beholder. Literally got stoned while I was stoned. 12:45 went to get potion of acid out of by bag, but could not tell which one it was because of hallucination. 12:45 Fortunately, I was able to pray to the flying spaghetti monster. 12:46 you got stoned while you were stoned, so you went for the acid? that must have been some trip 12:46 Are items obscured by hallucination in dnh? 12:46 oh damn hah 12:47 ok spl 0.5.1 is on hdf-us 12:47 working on eu and au 12:48 raisse: [backscroll] the monsters escaping the dungeon is 3.6.1 and does not work if they carry any unique objects. Might be possible in splice though since monsters can ride steeds... 12:49 hothraxxa: [backscroll] shks offering only one sell price is also 3.6.1. They will either offer the 50% sell price on all objects (3/4 of shks), or the 37.5% sell price (1/4 of shks). 12:50 erm 12:50 ahhh, so that explains it 12:50 i noticed i was getting a consistent ripoff from one guy 12:50 not *all* objects. the shks that offer 37.5% only do that for un-type-identified objects and they offer 50% if you have it identified 12:50 aosdict: I bow to your incredible shopkeeper knowledge 12:51 K2: Do you seperatly managed hdf-us/eu/au? 12:51 K2: Thank you! 12:51 AntiGulp: I've had to explain this to people like five times in #nethack 12:51 PavelB: he has clones of himself in the netherlands and australia 12:51 is it in the wiki, which i shamefully did not consult? 12:51 I think I edited the price ID page, yes. 12:52 I recently discovered the existance of a utility called rsync 12:52 aosdict: Dungeon escape is cactually impossible with steeds. I completely removed the ability for steeds and riders to stalk the player to other levels because it was generating an enormous number of bugs 12:52 makes sense 12:52 can a monster willingly dismount in order to follow the player? 12:53 PavelB yes 12:53 any updates on hdf-us do not automagically happen on the other 2 12:54 Have you considered setting something up to do that 12:54 aosdict: It’s a good idea for the future, definitely 12:54 PavelB no, there are differences 12:54 easier to just do it manually 12:54 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:54 plus it keeps my console skills sharp ;) 12:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:56 You don't need to sync the entire filesystem. What differences are there? 12:57 not syncing the *entire server* hahahah 12:57 there's enough differences that I'm not going to spend time explaining it 12:58 I just expected them to be the same 12:58 in a nutshell: the game is the same yes. other things like the xlogfile, other server generated bits, are not 12:58 and the chroot paths 12:59 * K2 goes back to updated splicehack on eu and au 13:01 Someone I know has a setup where they do actually just sync the entire filesystem, and and use the `--exclude-from ` flag to rsync to disable it for things like /dev: https://github.com/TryItOnline/tryitonline/blob/master/var/sync/exclude/_always https://github.com/TryItOnline/tryitonline/blob/master/sbin/tiosync 13:04 !who 13:04 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] hypnotist [nh361] Crim [nh361] | [hdf-eu] nickgrim [nh343] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 13:09 !who 13:09 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] hypnotist [nh361] Crim [nh361] | [hdf-eu] nickgrim [nh343] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 13:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:17 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 13:18 I'm going to start naming y and e monsters AntiGulp 13:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24 Lights and floating eyes? 13:25 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:28 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Crim (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3032 13:34 because they explode 13:35 oh wait do you get to see quit messages in irccloud? 13:37 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Crim (Val Hum Fem Law), 1329 points, T:3413, killed by an invisible water demon 13:41 aosdict: Yes, I just didn't catch that that's what you were reffering to. 13:49 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] Crim (Val Dwa Fem Law), 233 points, T:969, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 13:55 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:09 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] TheTourist (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2272 14:22 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:22 K2: well there is a SLEX 2.27 but it's a beta version, kind of; I'll break saves again soon anyway, but once I have something reasonably stable I'll ping you :) 14:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:36 there's no such thing as a non beta of anything we play here 14:36 really? vanilla included? 14:38 of course 14:38 you think its a finished product? 14:38 well it's an official release 14:39 and then patches were generated literally a couple days later for it 14:39 that == beta in my mind 14:39 oh :D 14:40 but yeah ping me when you think you have a somewhat stable version ready 14:40 yep, will do :) 14:40 :P 14:40 <[Demo]> so if i wanted to try to trick a beta version of something onto hdf id need to not call it that 14:41 ecept i consider all of it beta 14:41 except 14:41 so whatever 14:41 <[Demo]> how do variants get tested before they are server ready? 14:41 you'd have to ask the variant author 14:42 i am assuming they do some type of play testing before they ask to put their variant online 14:42 <[Demo]> ill ask antigulp i guess 14:42 <[Demo]> if i remember 14:42 or aosdict 14:42 or FIQ 14:42 or any of the other variant authors here ;) 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] TheTourist (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5109 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 19309 points, T:11680, killed by a snake, while praying 15:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (kraken), on T:509 15:02 What does "The wand unsuccessfully fights your attempt to write!" mean? 15:03 it's a wand of striking 15:03 Thanks! 15:03 what has antigulp done to artifact wishing? it says the Platinum Yendorian Express Card does not exist in the game 15:05 sounds like object materials ****ery to me, i.e. it tries to create an item named "Yendorian Express Card" made of platinum... does splice allow material wishes? 15:05 i don't think so 15:06 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 15:10 * aosdict hastily checks to make sure you can wish for the pyec in xnethack 15:11 crap you can't 15:11 you bastard 15:11 now my whole game is ruined! 15:12 you could wait for a fix and then wish it up later 15:12 what if you wish for "platinum platinum yendorian express card" to cheat the parser? 15:12 doesn't work 15:12 throne wish and i got gdsm 15:12 apparently beholdr doesn't announce splice wishes 15:12 SDSM is special cased 15:14 did object materials mess up artifact wishing somehow? 15:14 i think only ones that involve a material 15:14 which woulod be the pyec and... nothing else i can think of 15:14 materials need to be in the wish parser for wizmode testing purposes 15:14 hothraxxa: and SDSM and gold (pieces) 15:15 paper platinum yendorian business card 15:15 yes but he asked about artifacts 15:15 Luxidream: with platinum inlaid letters 15:15 what font? 15:15 something fancy 15:15 and sholdn't that be in bone? 15:17 ah the font should be silian grail 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] TheTourist (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7080 15:18 umm i mean rail. silian rail 15:19 Is there any advantage to a blessed vs uncursed vs cursed /oWishing? 15:20 i wouldn't like my wow to be cursed, but otherwise i don't believe so 15:20 cursed might explode 15:20 in a shower of wishy magic 15:21 yeah a cursed wand exploded on me once. ever. 15:21 !tell K2 pushed a fix 15:21 Will do, aosdict! 15:21 now engraving with a cursed wand in 3.6.1 is dangerous 15:21 as i understand it 15:21 !tell AntiGulp you're going to want to cherry pick a8f86ca9 15:21 Will do, aosdict! 15:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 15:29 Updating 3a3e65b..77cea6c 15:29 K2: Message from aosdict at 2018-07-27 15:21 EDT: pushed a fix 15:29 Fast-forward 15:29 doc/xnh-changelog-0.2.0.txt | 6 ++++-- 15:29 src/do_name.c | 12 ++++++++---- 15:29 src/objnam.c | 10 ++++++++-- 15:29 3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) 15:29 aosdict 0.2.0 ? 15:29 ;) 15:30 what most recently changed in that 15:30 i dunno. but we're on 0.3.0 right? 15:30 there's no 0.3.0 content in that file 15:30 so.. eh 15:31 * K2 shrugs 15:31 updating 15:31 oh it was probably that shatterproof wishing thing which was pre 0.3.0 but just merged now 15:32 xNetHack updated (all servers) 15:33 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 15:33 -!- cherryh.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org 15:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 15:40 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:41 !who 15:41 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] TheTourist [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] pondlife [nh361] | [hdf-au] Crim [nh361] 15:55 !lastgame Crim 15:55 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Crim/nh361/dumplog/1532713226.nh361.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Crim/nh361/dumplog/1532717635.nh361.txt 15:58 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 16:01 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 16:10 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 507 points, T:2207, killed by a water moccasin 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] TheTourist (Val Hum Fem Law), 23101 points, T:10239, zapped herself with a wand 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:74623 16:14 !whereis Eleven 16:14 PavelB: [hdf-us] Eleven [nh361]: (Kni Hum Fem Law) T:74609 The Dungeons of Doom level: 23 (with Amulet) 16:14 asshole bugbear read one of the soko scrolls and i had to break three boulders 16:15 :D 16:15 i move for immediate defunding of the bugbear education programme 16:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:18 You see here a jumping spider corpse. 16:18 i should be able to get a jumping intrinsic from those 16:18 !whereis hothraxxa 16:18 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl]: No details available 16:18 Why doesn't spl have whereis D: 16:19 i wonder is something isn't broken there 16:19 !who 16:19 aosdict: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] antigulp [spl] Eleven [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 16:19 my wish wasn't announced either 16:19 it does 16:19 but spl was updated to 0.5.1 16:19 and i set beholder to track latest version 16:19 for things like whereis 16:19 oh i yam an orphing 16:19 currently beholder can only track one whereis file per variant 16:20 PavelB: i'm on soko 2 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:74821 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29466 16:33 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 2324 points, T:3007, killed by a bolt of fire 16:36 > Val Dwa Mal Law 16:36 Don't Valkyries have to be female? 16:36 amulet of change i would think 16:37 * PavelB opens the nethack wiki 16:37 anyway i just blew up my boh so this game has gone south in a hurry 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:75386 16:45 hothraxxa :( 16:46 my own fault 16:46 i overlooked that i'd selected it 16:51 so stenno being a male valk 16:51 that just made me think of something 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:75776 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:75783 16:56 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57 nice, all my scrolls got blanked 16:57 giant zapped wand of fire while i was over ice 17:01 "a male valkyrie? raaah! blasphemy! eat fire!" 17:03 ah that must've happen because of selfpoly 17:04 poly into own race 17:06 so to finish my thought (got pulled away) 17:07 if you ascend and your alignment is different from normal because you wore a HoOA 17:07 will that ascension show up on the nethack scoreboard? 17:07 hooa doesn't work in 3.6.1 anymore 17:07 why shouldn't it? 17:07 ^ Mandevil 17:07 well have a look. there arent placeholders for say a chaotic human valkyrie 17:07 note that you have align0 and align in the xlog 17:08 maybe mandevil only considers align0 17:08 so for 3.4.3 variants and maybe nh4 based, its a valid question 17:08 those variants also have align0 17:09 whats the difference between align and align0? 17:10 all I know is, the NHS tracks first to ascend and sorts by race/role/alignment 17:10 just wondering what happens if you ascend a role/race with an alignment other than expected 17:10 align0 is starting alignment 17:10 and align is finishing alignmen 17:10 t 17:10 i see 17:10 see also gender and gender0 17:10 ok 17:11 i want gender == toaster oven 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] MrSirLogan (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1723 points, T:2768, killed by a dwarf 17:12 anyway imma go out for a bit 17:12 tonight there's supposed to be a bigass blood moon 17:12 but its not to be seen 17:12 oh thats right 17:12 too cloudy here i think 17:12 and i'm out too, going home 17:12 o/ 17:12 au revoir 17:13 !who 17:13 PavelB: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [spl] MrSirLogan [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 17:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:20 stenno: NHS currently uses align, not align0 17:20 stenno: The intention is to use align0 (and gender0, too) 17:21 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13845 17:21 well it's bagoban 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] MrSirLogan (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 384 points, T:1041, killed by a magic missile 17:29 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 17:32 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 17:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:31639 17:39 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 17:41 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1284 17:44 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 18:01 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:02 aosdict: Pulled your object materials fix 18:02 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-07-27 15:21 EDT: you're going to want to cherry pick a8f86ca9 18:04 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:04 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Client Quit] 18:04 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] MrSirLogan (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1444 points, T:3048, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:14 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 18:16 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Client Quit] 18:16 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 989 points, T:1262, starvation 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:76072 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:76095 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:76114 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:76138 18:35 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:76171 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:76176 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:76212 18:41 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:76225 18:41 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:76249 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3051352 points, T:76291, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Eleven/nh361/dumplog/1532429991.nh361.txt 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 8908 points, T:7843, killed by a watch captain 18:57 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 2872 points, T:5231, killed by a Green-elf, while taking off clothes 18:58 Nymph seduces me, and gets me to start removing armor. As I am removing armor, she reads a scroll of create monster. Two green elves appear and instantly kill me. NICE. 18:59 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 19:01 did you get her number? 19:03 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 19:03 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:04 Luxidream: hello there! 19:05 AntiGulp: exited the world the way you came into it: naked and surrounded by people with sharp objects. 19:05 hey intro 19:06 coming home rn 19:06 you playing nh right now? 19:07 Nah CDDA 19:07 I'm leveling my tailoring and making a brand new set of clothing/armor for myself. 19:08 from scratch? didn’t think that makeshift clothes were good 19:11 I’ll be joining you soon 19:11 Once you get to Tailoring 3 you can start making some decent stuff. 19:11 but I’d like to run nethack a bit more too 19:11 Can’t be getting rusty 19:15 introsp3ctive: "Kicking, screaming, and covered in blood. Someone else's blood, ideally." 19:16 ^^ 19:22 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 19:24 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 19:25 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:26 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 19:27 alright, time to play catastrophe: darkness within darkness ahead 19:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:29 -!- stenno is now known as Guest69630 19:34 -!- Guest69630 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:47449 19:39 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 19:51 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 19:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 20:01 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 20:03 my first ever wish... exciting :D 20:03 <[Demo]> yey 20:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:03 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 20:06 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 20:06 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 20:08 and there it goes... xD 20:08 <[Demo]> :( 20:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:08 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:36925 20:09 40 tries of getting excalibur. the water daemons were too much xD 20:09 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11 <[Demo]> how do i do menu glyphs in 3.6.x? 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 899 points, T:884, poisonous corpse 20:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 20:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:21 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 20:27 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 20:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:30 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 20:39 just got a weird error message after i died in Splicehack https://imgur.com/cmOvI0M 20:39 after hitting [space] multiple times the game eventually ended. 20:40 Not to be Capt Obvious but presumably not unconnected to the 2 uncursed anonymous fruits you are carrying 20:41 seems to be, just not sure if that's an intended message :) 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 951 points, T:735, orc 20:43 It's objnam.c circa line 370 in vanilla, "impossible("Bad fruit #%d?", obj->spe);" 20:43 <[Demo]> bones related? 20:43 I'm not sure why you got umpteen copies since presumably there are not umpteen fruit on the level. 20:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 20:46 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 20:48 okay, bedtime for me. see you "tomorrow". :-) 20:49 -!- Hrogart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:49 <[Demo]> might call every time it's name is viewed 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 2371 points, T:2152, killer bee 20:56 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:30, imp 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 78 points, T:22, imp 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 110 points, T:572, imp 21:02 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) stole 2810 zorkmids of merchandise from the engagement ring of Gheel on T:524 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1600 points, T:1244, giant beetle 21:17 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:30 -!- stenno is now known as Guest36186 21:34 -!- Guest36186 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:39 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:39 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 21:42 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 21:43 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 21:49 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:49 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 21:50 -!- Luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 21:52 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "Blessed figurine of the grim reaper", on T:2 21:54 does that even work 21:56 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 21:57 <[Demo]> should it not? 21:59 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:937 22:03 Isn’t grim reaper unique 22:08 <[Demo]> no is it supposed to be? 22:08 [hdf-us] [un] arnibald (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 6948 points, T:2935, killed by a mountain centaur 22:13 -!- Luxidream_ has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 22:17 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:17 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:18 <[Demo]> AC:-17 Xp:3/48 T:2863 22:18 <[Demo]> healers easy 22:21 -!- Luxidream_ has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 22:22 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 22:35 !who 22:35 K2: [hdf-us] Demo [spl] arnibald [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:36 <[Demo]> shit what does spl unicorn horn do now? 22:49 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 22:59 -!- Luxidream has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 23:09 iron shoes now dwarven boots? good call 23:09 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10 *dwarvish 23:10 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 23:12 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 2234 points, T:2041, centaur 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:402 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:404 23:20 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 23:27 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 5788 points, T:6348, killed by a crocodile 23:30 !who 23:30 K2: [hdf-us] rustmonster [nh13d] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 23:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:31 -!- stenno is now known as Guest1672 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1119 points, T:2105, dart 23:36 -!- Guest1672 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]