00:01 he moves faster than anything I've ever seen and steals EVERYTHING 00:03 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1537228 points, T:53359, killed by the Lord of the Foocubi called Neo 00:04 fuck you Neo 00:07 <[Demo]> if you don't play him rght you die 00:07 <[Demo]> Scrolls of time are useful 00:07 <[Demo]> I used free action and paralysis 00:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:08 -!- stenno is now known as Guest21918 00:13 -!- Guest21918 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:14 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 00:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:28 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:54 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 01:05 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 01:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:09 -!- stenno is now known as Guest40589 01:14 -!- Guest40589 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:19 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:40 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 02:05 bouquet: damn, the lord of overpoweredness got you :( rip, that bastard also nearly ended my run and I could only defeat him by using some really cheesy tactics 02:05 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:10 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:17 -!- stenno is now known as Guest10444 02:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:41 Lol they made it so that Jubilex specifically resists naming attempts in Nethack 3.6.x. I thought unique monsters already cannot be renamed? 03:41 But naming him either "Juiblex" or "Jubilex" is apparently acceptable ;) 03:50 -!- Guest10444 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 03:57 -!- stenno_ has quit [Changing host] 03:57 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 03:57 -!- stenno_ is now known as stennowork 03:58 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:21 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:21 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:40 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:13 You kill Famine! "Burrrrp!" 05:15 argh 05:15 wanted to kill Famine before eating, wrong choice 05:15 I was right, it's too warm to play 05:16 but I could hardly put it off any more *while already on astral* 05:16 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 05:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:33 -!- stennowork has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:47 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:47 -!- stenno is now known as Guest9722 05:48 -!- stennowork is now known as Guest68738 05:52 -!- Guest9722 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:53 -!- Guest68738 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:01 raisse: arrgh rip :( you were so close too! did you get stunlocked? that happened to me with Pestilence once 06:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:13 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:13 -!- stennowork is now known as Guest9799 06:13 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19 LarienTelrunya: no, just fainted, surrounded by high-level monsters because there was a summoning archon 06:19 ouch! no ring of conflict to thin out the crowds? 06:20 I was causing conflict with the Sceptre of Might! but I think A are immune 06:20 ah :( 06:24 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:26 -!- Guest9799 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:42 -!- stenno_ has quit [Changing host] 06:42 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:42 -!- stenno_ is now known as stennowork 07:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:27 YASI: if you're invisible, peaceful monsters may bump into you because they cannot see you, and this can anger them. How does FIQhack handle that, anyway? 07:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:41 YASI/EPI: make amnesia work both ways. Instead of just forgetting things that your character has learned, it should also make it harder to memorize new things, so if you get flayed often, newly identified items won't stay identified, newly explored level maps will slowly fade back to black, spells randomly vanish from your spell menu... 07:48 morning 07:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:48 -!- stenno is now known as Guest33329 07:49 <[Demo]> hello 07:49 Hello [Demo], Welcome to #hardfought 07:53 -!- Guest33329 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- stenno is now known as Guest54556 08:52 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:53 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- Guest54556 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:57 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5845 points, T:5760, killed by a raven, while fainted from lack of food 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 477 points, T:820, killed by a gnome lord 09:10 [hdf-us] [slex] bagun (Fla Dop Mal Neu) shouted "Come here!", on T:882 09:10 [hdf-us] [slex] bagun (Fla Dop Mal Neu) shouted "elbereth", on T:882 09:11 gotta love #shout 09:12 did i tell the story when unnethacks clippy demon had a mail message "When in trouble, #shout for help, someone might answer?" 09:12 and then someone used #shout for help and i connected to dgl and wrote them a message whats up 09:13 and they immediately saved and didn't come back 09:13 probably didn't expect that 09:14 You feel incredibly sick. You are in full health. 09:17 there was also that player that constantly used #shout to shout for their lost pet, believing the pet might find back faster if you call for them 09:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:19 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 09:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:22 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:40 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 09:57 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 26056 points, T:2294, killed by a guard, while praying 10:44 lol 10:47 !lastgame ahrimen 10:47 raisse: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/ahrimen/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-07-26%2014%3A41%3A24%2C%20ahrimen-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] Dracunos (dracunos) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 42034 points, T:5145, killed by a leocrotta, while jumping around 10:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- stenno is now known as Guest36240 10:55 -!- Guest36240 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:07 gah, I ate 4 tins of frost giant and they gave me neither strength nor cold resistance 11:08 I don't mind about the strength because I'm wearing GoP (thanks, late TLar) 11:08 the late TLar also bequeathed me her holy water and 1:1 wand of wishing 11:10 but I don't have cold or fire resistance (or shock or disintegration, but those usually come late) 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5482 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39792 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39793 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 3573 points, T:5734, quit 11:27 oh, I *do* get strength from giants, only I don't notice because I don't *feel* stronger when wearing the GoP 11:27 all those giants have silently made me 18/18 11:27 (from 14 or so) 11:28 now I can wear my leather gloves again and possibly cast some spells 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48370 11:31 !lastgame TLar 11:31 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/TLar/nh361/dumplog/1532472594.nh361.txt 11:31 did you get TLar bone too? 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:55719 11:31 bones* 11:32 no, that was the one I got :-) 11:32 raisse: no. I just saw your message, and wondered if it came from a different server. 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:55739 11:33 I was working some bugs out of that script the other day... good to see it actually working! 11:33 that BoH is still there, cursed and almost empty 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:55762 11:39 You see here a gelatinous cube corpse. It explodes! You are caught in a blast of kaleidoscopic light! You are freaked out. 11:39 well, yes. 11:47 [hdf-us] [slex] metzfan (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 429701 points, T:26203, petrified by a bashing a petrifying monster 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:56093 11:53 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:40095 12:02 K2: Is is possible to change my username on Hardfought? I'd rather be PavelB than Pavel to match my irc nick. 12:03 just register a new nickname in dgl 12:05 Oh, how do I do that? 12:05 Or do you mean just create a new account 12:05 the same way you made your original account 12:05 yeah register a new account 12:05 Ah. I guess I'll just copy my RC files over by hand 12:06 using the web rc editor on the website makes it easy 12:07 Oh yeah 12:11 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- stenno is now known as Guest13762 12:17 Is there a way to tell NetHack to redraw itself after I resize the terminal? 12:17 PavelB: try ctrl-r 12:17 Aww, din't work. 12:17 however, dgamelaunch usually dislikes terminal resizing 12:17 ^ doesn't work on servers 12:18 resize terminal? reconnect to server entirely. 12:18 Got it 12:27 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:29 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 12:31 According to the NH wiki, all keys are generated uncursed, but I just ID'd my key and it was cursed... 12:31 probably one of those ultra-annoying earlygame fake bones piles? 12:31 was there a rock trap or something on the square you found it? and maybe also an orc corpse? 12:32 Oh, yeah, a human corpse 12:32 With a sleeping trap 12:33 I didn't know whose counted as bones 12:33 yeah then it was such a pile 12:33 > You feel worried about your kitten. 12:33 What does that mean? 12:33 it's a new feature in 3.6.x, those are supposed to symbolize that other adventurers have been through the dungeon... but their stuff is almost always cursed 12:33 it means that the kitten is about to starve! 12:34 o no 12:34 Ok cat has been fed 12:36 LarienTelrunya: why are those ultra annoying 12:37 if you find one, you just name the items as cursed 12:37 because they're 100% cursed 12:37 aosdict: because I often find them long after the corpse has rotted away and don't make the connection that it's a cursed item (goblins and such may pick them up etc.) 12:37 but there's a trap there too 12:37 that doesn't go away 12:38 I actually like the feature 12:38 I didn't know the stuff was always cursed though 12:38 if it's a falling rock trap, it does go away when triggered often enough :D 12:38 ok but the odds of that are astronomically low 12:39 Aww, got Oracle 1 instead of one of the new ones 12:42 And got surrounded by snakes dipping for excal 12:42 Read a TP scroll 12:42 Got attacked by a dog and died 12:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] PavelB (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1029 points, T:2650, killed by a dog 12:46 * aosdict wonders exactly what a statue of an air elemental looks like 12:47 elementals are quite humanlike, according to marvin millar 12:48 oops martin. write fantasy novels, quite good ones 12:48 If you have any reccommendations for specific books I might check it out 12:49 start with lonely werewolf girl 12:50 kk 12:50 * PavelB opens kindle app 12:51 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1374 points, T:3048, quit 12:52 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 12:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 12:52 crap i shut myself down :( 12:53 one of the characters in lonely werewolf girl is a fire elemental know as agrivex (usually called vex) 12:53 she's my favourite character in the novels 12:54 I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but whoever designed the cover for LWG should never do that again. 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 82 points, T:114, killed by a fox 12:54 it's had several covers, which one is this? 12:54 * LarienTelrunya agrees that the cover looks terrible 12:55 the one it shows in the kindle store, one sec 12:55 https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51-Pwlx9fmL.jpg 12:56 haha that one. yeah it's not attractive 12:56 bahahahaha 12:56 i think all three in the series now have covers by that artist 12:56 that looks like 14 year old's fanfiction "cover" 12:57 Ah, to be young again 12:57 aosdict: these aren't fan fiction b y any stretch. it's a really good series 12:58 hothraxxa: yeah I trust your word on it 12:58 but if I were presented with only the cover 12:58 I would be embarassed to have a physical copy of that lying around 12:58 hah. you clearly never have seen some of the covers from 1950s sf novels 12:59 nah I've read a lot of heinlein books 12:59 maybe that's not the best sample though since they're relatively well known 12:59 Most books from that time period that are worth reading have been republished so I have no idea what covers looked like back then 12:59 heinlein is revered by many but i am not one of them 13:00 me neither 13:01 when stranger in a strange land was published, i read it and though it was really good. then i decided to re-read it and realized it was complete rubbish 13:02 people still rave about it though, and whenever someone does, i bet them they haven't read it twice. i don't think i've ever lost 13:03 *A Dreamer's Tales Annotated Edition* is 99 cents in ebook format and is pretty great: https://www.amazon.com/Dreamers-Tales-Annotated-Lord-Dunsany-ebook/dp/B07C345QTH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532624537&sr=8-1&keywords=a+dreamers+tales 13:07 ahhh dunsany. read his stuff in my youth 13:08 same 13:08 except I read it last week and am still in my youth :P 13:08 in the 50s and up until the mid-60s, it was possible to read every fantasy or sf novel published, so i did 13:12 I read everything by John Flannagan, Brandon Mull, Christopher Paolini 13:12 And also a crap ton of isekai light novels 13:13 i do not know who any of those are but i shall find out 13:14 Peter F. Hamilton and Stephen Baxter are two of my current favorites (sci-fi authors) 13:14 I read sci-fi but I don't really have any favorite sci-fi authors 13:14 hamilton i know 13:15 m. this book shows a ranger with a crossbow but he's not a gnome 13:16 I don't know which book you're looking at but i'm guessing it's a recurve bow 13:16 hothraxxa: same as you with heinlein, only it was "the number of the beast" 13:17 PavelB: this one https://www.amazon.com/Hunters-Brotherband-Chronicles-Book/dp/B009WTT7GS/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1532625240&sr=1-5&keywords=john+flannigan+books 13:17 looks like a crossbow to me 13:17 Ah. I assumed it was a Ranger's Apprentice book 13:17 Since you said ranger 13:18 isn't that a ranger? 13:18 oh i guess it's a hunter 13:19 I realize you wouldn't know, but "Ranger" has a meaning specific to the book's universe 13:19 as it does in nethack 13:20 It's a bit different from the typical dnd ranger. It's like a cross between a ranger and rogue. 13:20 The Brotherband Chronicles are technically their own series, but all of his books are in the same universe, so the actual book one would be https://www.amazon.com/Ruins-Gorlan-Book-Rangers-Apprentice-ebook/dp/B001QNVPKY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1532625595&sr=1-1&keywords=ranger%27s+apprentice+book+1 13:21 (And there's the recurve bow) 13:51 > Chapter 236 13:52 Lonely Werewolf Girl's table of contents alone is 5 pages 13:52 *10 13:53 This table of contents is longer than the chapters themselves 13:55 lol all hope is lost, for I have found a bundle glyph in the unicode characters table: 💇 :D instead of *bundlebundlebundle* I can now write *💇💇💇* :D 13:55 I don't get it 13:56 Also why is there an emoji for that ._. 13:56 Some days I'm just dissapointed in the unicode consortium 13:57 what does the glyph look like for you anyway? it should be a female head with long hair 13:57 It looks like a woman getting a haircut I guess? There's scissors next to her head. 13:58 ah, yeah that's also what I see 13:59 I don't get the bundle thing though 13:59 her long hair is her bundle, and I just loooooooove long hair 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:57723 14:07 LarienTelrunya: I have long hair /wink 14:08 introsp3ctive: yaaaaaaaaay! 14:08 * LarienTelrunya bundles through introsp3ctive's hair ♥ 14:12 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12 awwwwwww did I scare him too much? :( 14:12 coming on a little too strong there 14:12 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 14:12 I'm super nervous to talk to people irl so whenever I get a haircut it always ends up super short and I can't work up the confidence to tell the barber not to cut it so short 14:13 Let's practice then. Repeat after me: "Don't cut my hair so short" 14:14 write them a note and hand it to them PavelB :) 14:14 Try and look at it this way: you're paying them for a service so there's no reason not to ensure you get the service you want. 14:14 or hire an anger translator and have them speak in real time on your behalf 14:14 The absolute worst thing is when they try to have a conversation 14:15 lol I never talk to my barber. We have this understanding that we don't speak. He knows how I like it and that's it. I say thanks and he says see you next month lol 14:16 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:20 i am my own barber. conversations get weird real quick 14:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:35 * aosdict decides to add a bunch of "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" quotes as epitaphs 14:41 Are you irritable, tired, depressed of life? Keep it up! 14:43 (mpfc undertaker quote) 14:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aChRo7PrPQw 14:45 depressed, tired* 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:58634 14:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:55 AntiGulp, you around? 14:55 we need to talk... 14:56 bouquet: the lord that doesn't even have a proper name is Splicehack's elder priest :( 14:57 that guy sucks 14:58 did he get that code from SLEX or something? 14:58 nah, the splicehack one was there first, though I ported him to SLEX (but didn't port the lair yet) 14:59 the only way I could kill him was to polyself into a purple worm and devour him whole 14:59 foobicus? 14:59 What a battle that was! I tried a boulder fort but too late. 14:59 Lord of the Foocubi 14:59 yeah i've died to it 14:59 he stole EVERYTHING and he was obscenely fast. 14:59 wand of death 15:00 he resisted all /oDeath shots 15:00 i like your purple worm strat 15:00 My suggestion to AntiGulp is that he either slows down or isn't allowed to port away. Too fast, steals everything, and takes off like a little bitch is very unbecoming of a Demon Lord. 15:00 at first I planned to try revgenoing some purple worms and then using conflict, but then decided to polyself instead 15:05 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 15:05 showdown time! ;) 15:06 My spidey sense is telling me that I’ve broken the balance again :) 15:06 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-07-25 18:46 EDT: ok! 15:06 i think the LotF should be left as is 15:06 AntiGulp: Sir Bouquet wants to talk to you about your "elder priest" :P 15:06 its a real challenge 15:07 I think I’m actively hurting my credibility by mentioning that this is the nerfed version lol 15:08 At the very least, when Lord of the Foocubi appears there should be some grand message displayed like the quest master gives. 15:08 WELCOME TO DIE 15:08 LOL, ya 15:09 That would be perfect, actually. Maybe if he just communicated entirely in emoji that would get the point across. 15:09 The Lord of the Foocubi appears in hits ;D 15:10 There’s some deferred code actually that changes him/her to use succubus seduction. I hadn’t tried it yet, odds are it might be even more annoying though. 15:10 at least the seduction doesn't steal your weapon though, and he might get a severe headache and become cancelled 15:11 the way you have him now, he steals and steals and steals and steals some more 15:11 you either cheese him with purple worm/black dragon/other instakill, or cheese him with scare monster, or get ***** 15:13 I just tested and you can apparently kill them or any stealing monster by having them steal a cockatrice corpse, if you want to go for some real cheese 15:14 Hmmmmmm I might leave them as is for now, and if good counterplay isn’t found in a while I’ll shake them up. 15:15 well IMHO it's a puzzle with narrow solutions and you either have one or lose the game, but oh well 15:15 personally I probably won't meet him until june 2019 anyway :D 15:16 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 15:17 Fair fair :) 15:18 A couple scrolls of time might actually do the trick. 15:18 it's not often that I get steamed at the mechanics of *hack but this guy seemed to take things off the deep end. He was completely out of his depth at any level of the game. 15:18 I just wanted to make sure my whining is heard. 15:18 IMHO the problem is that the stealaportation mechanics are completely broken, have always been, and are in dire need of fixing 15:19 why the hell would one be able to teleport away after stealing something? that's not how stealing works in real life! :P 15:19 also the fact that if the attack hits, it's a 100% chance to steal something AND a 100% chance to then teleport away 15:19 Wait its a 100% chance? Wat 15:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 the lord that doesn't even have a proper name just can't tele away immediately because he is on a no-tele level, but then his covetous AI kicks in that allows him to say "neener-neener, rules are for weaklings like you, I simply ignore them :P" 15:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:20 If it’s honestly this frustrating to fight LotF I can look for a solution. This isn’t the first feedback I’ve gotten about him/her being super frustrating. 15:20 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 you can't even lure him downstairs because if he steals something, he enters flee mode and therefore just would not follow you down! 15:21 Covetous + steal are a pretty jank combo, as it turns out. 15:21 personally I'd fix how the stealing attack and the covetous mechanic work in general, it's what I did in slex and no one has ever complained about that change 15:22 of course, if you want your variant to be challenging, you might want to leave it unchanged 15:22 YASI: rename LotF to "Pale Day" 15:22 @le?Pale Day 15:22 Pale Day (9) | Lvl: 45 | Diff: 54 | Spd: 10 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 96 | Generates: special | AC: -40 | Attacks: 4d4 gaze level drain, 4d4 gaze confuse, 4d4 cast spell, 4d4 breath acid, 4d4 passive sex | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, undead, demon, stalker, infravisible 15:22 Covetous mechanic is something that I have wanted to fix for a long time. It + gehennom are the two most frustrating parts of NetHack for me. 15:22 of course it's in slex 15:22 of course 15:22 @le?Pale Night 15:22 Pale Night (&) | Lvl: 96 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 10 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 96 | Generates: unique | AC: -40 | Attacks: 4d4 gaze level drain, 4d4 gaze confuse, 4d4 cast spell, 4d4 breath acid, 4d4 passive sex | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, undead, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 15:23 If I add pale night eventually, she’ll be as a seperate demon lord with some special stuff. I was thinking maybe Malcanthet? 15:23 eh, just add all the dnethack lords, what's the worst that could happen? :D 15:24 Lamashtu is not overpowered at all :P 15:24 I just checked Lamashtu’s wiki page and… wow. That’s all I can say. 15:26 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 15:26 thanks, AntiGulp. My work here is done. 15:27 bouqet: Sorry you had to die for a change to happen. 15:29 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31 "that's my job" 15:32 otherwise, splicehack was a fun diversion. I'd like to have tested out the planes 15:33 oh, that spear I had was AWESOME. Better than Mjolnir. Cool alternate weapons is what I love about variants like Slashem etc. 15:33 Gungnir 15:33 I’m glad! :D The planes are pretty similar to vanilla in the current version, although the riders being mounted and the increased player monsters make astral annoying to deal with. 15:35 My deepest fear is that someone segfaults on astral because of the mounted riders… 15:37 I'm super nervous to talk to people irl so whenever I get a haircut it always ends up super short and I can't work up the confidence to tell the barber not to cut it so short 15:37 do what i do: take a picture of yourself with your hair the way you like it, show that to yourbarber and ask "please cut my hair like this, thank you" 15:38 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54135 15:39 -!- Guest13762 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54146 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:54170 15:42 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43 All right, LotF makes more sense now, and no longer spams steal attacks (uses AD_SSEX instead). 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3089 points, T:6734, quit 15:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:47 did you happen to watch my ttyrec? It was a slaughter. 15:47 -!- stenno is now known as Guest10578 15:49 I didn’t, I’m kind of afraid to (also I don’t know how to use ttyrecs oops) 15:49 AntiGulp: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ipbt/ on real computers, dunno otherwise 15:50 I just compiled the ttyplay binary and ran it. Not sure if it works with the curses stuff, though. 15:50 Ooh, thanks Pinkbeast 15:52 I’ll vouch for LotF still being better then unnerfed, in-development mephisto. I badly miscalculated the damage dice so encounters with him were basically: “Mephisto appears from nowhere! You are enveloped in a pillar of hellfire!” Then I took ~200 unresistable fire damage and died 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:54683 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54691 15:54 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 15:59 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55790 16:12 ah, ttyplay does work with curses! cool, I can relive this awful ending over and over again! 16:13 bouquet: If you are on a real computer IPBT is head and shoulders above ttyplay 16:14 I'm using a steam engine powered difference engine. Is that OK? 16:16 No, because only the Analytical Engine was programmable. 16:16 PavelB: once I had my hair cut in some backwater little town in the South of England and I said "like Joan of Arc" and that was the best haircut I ever got. 16:17 (now I have my hair long, but I used to wear a pageboy bob) 16:17 ttyplay is *baaaad* 16:20 jettyplay.jar 16:20 that is all. 16:21 ^ 16:21 !tell antigulp this happened: The sewer rat is killed! Fudd grows to level 1! except fudd is now level 2 16:21 Will do, hothraxxa! 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57565 16:21 well, ttyplay honors all the curses layout stuff. I just tried ipbt and it's all garbled nonsense. 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:57577 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57577 16:23 the features are nice though :) 16:24 bouquet: You need to read the manual for ipbt 16:25 two purple Ls at castle 16:25 i wonder how that can be?? 16:25 Feh, manuals... people read those? 16:25 i thought they would only generate in gehennom??? 16:25 -!- Guest10578 has quit [Changing host] 16:25 -!- Guest10578 has joined #hardfought 16:26 Guest10578: Nope, not unusual to have them at the Castle. 16:26 -!- Guest10578 is now known as stenno 16:26 there must be a bug! 16:26 in the fucking monster generation! 16:26 how else would a gehennom-only monster generate out-of-depth somewhere!! 16:27 in the dungeons of doom 16:27 even though it has G_HELL flag 16:27 how strange 16:27 how peculiar 16:27 It's the same thing that gives you the Mind Flayer of the Mines, I think. 16:28 indeed it is 16:28 mkclass called from .des file parser 16:28 oh, oh, tell me your XL and your DL and i can tell you the chance of a minesflayer generating 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:57888 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:57967 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:58096 16:47 the castle has two guaranteed L, and whether they're purple depends mostly on your XP level 16:48 well it slightly increases the chance 16:48 but similar to minesflayer its more or less random 16:49 I thought minesflayers were completely random and level of castle L did take your XP into account 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:58251 16:49 no, both takes your XL and your XP into account but only to a certain extend 16:50 No minesflayers in xnh :D 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:58280 16:50 actually if you have a really low level, minesflayer might not generate 16:51 s/might/are guaranteed to/ 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:58297 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 4031152 points, T:58318, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1532296311.nh361.txt 16:52 hothraxxa: Thank you so much, this book is great. 16:53 yw. glad you like it, and there are two more in the series 16:53 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 16:53 grats nooodle 16:53 you seem to be on a roll 16:53 (do you say it like that) 16:54 you do 16:54 It's nooodle hypnotist 16:54 Is* 16:54 ty :) 16:54 !streak hypnotist 16:54 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist Max[nh361]: 6 (2018-05-21 - 2018-06-03). Current[nh361]: 3 (since 2018-07-16). 16:54 still z-scoring i assume? 16:54 yup 16:54 gogo 16:55 i gotta do ranger next ugh... 16:55 ranger ftw 16:55 hate ranger 16:55 early game is awesome 16:57 i don't know what it is about me, i kill off rangers so easily 16:57 what race are you playing? 16:58 i try to vary it... i feel like orc is the safest choice because poison resist 16:58 i like ranger because elf bow/arrows 16:58 err 16:58 i like elf 16:58 orc gets crossbow? 16:59 no, they get orcish bow and arrows 16:59 ah bleh 16:59 and orcish dagger 16:59 and cloak of displacement which i like 16:59 but poison resist prevents a whole number of early deaths 16:59 thats true 16:59 probably safer overall if you do streak play 17:01 demonbane'd 17:03 demonbane should let you #monster to gate in a random gatable demon 17:04 er that isn't very bane-y come to think of it 17:04 Which will then be hostile because you're wielding Demonbane 17:04 You have to yell "PULL" like a clay pigeon shooter 17:06 [hdf-eu] [nh361] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) shouted "PULL", on T:23456 17:06 oh man i'd love to abuse the live log with shouting 17:06 you can 17:06 in several variants 17:09 unnethack 17:09 Can you do it in xnh? 17:10 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 17:13 no 17:13 I never saw a particular reason to add it 17:14 its a gimmick with a very specific use case 17:25 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:37 H - an uncursed +0 glass dented pot (being worn). 17:37 gotta love materials 17:39 <[Demo]> dented glass hmm 17:40 It got dented when it was still molten 17:40 Glassblower hiccuped? 17:40 <[Demo]> Probably 17:42 a - an uncursed spear named Silver dragonbane 17:42 anyone know what this particular dragonbane does? 17:43 it looks like this is just a name 17:43 Perhaps it only slays silver dragons 17:43 hah. no it's just a anem. it's now a spear named fake 17:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:45 -!- Hrogart has joined #hardfought 17:52 hey everybody 17:52 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:53 i have a little questions as a complete nethack beginner 17:53 i understood that it will take a lot of time to really get the hang out of it and therefore i would like to make sure to start "right" 17:54 so i wanted to ask for your opinion if i should start with vanilla nethack or a variant like e.g. xnethack or splicehack 17:54 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 17:55 i've heard a lot comments about the "bland" lategame of vanilla nethack 17:57 consider nethack4 17:57 i know that i won't see that part of the game anytime soon, so i ask more out of curiosity 17:57 it's the most forgiving and it's a lot like vanilla 17:58 is it still in active development? 17:58 the developer comes in here often. it's maintained. i don't think there are plans to add anything new 17:59 i recommend xnethack 17:59 that's why i brought xnethack and splicehack as examples as they seem to be pretty active 17:59