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02:26 <LarienTelrunya> [Demo]: slex only has the mysterious force if you're playing in evilvariant mode, which no one ever does :P
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07:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:52773
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08:07 <[Demo]> so I'm sort of right
08:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1787 points, T:2277, killed by a dwarf
08:08 <LarienTelrunya> [Demo]: play slex 2.27 in evilvariant mode (insert arbitrary amount of bundles here) :D
08:11 <[Demo]> I'd die
08:11 <[Demo]> what all does thst mode do?
08:11 <LarienTelrunya> uhh, many things, I should make a complete list
08:12 <[Demo]> also can I get the slashem to slex changelog?
08:12 <LarienTelrunya> but basically, it implements some of the EPIs that are too evil for regular slex, including an adaptation of the dreaded wand destruction patch, and generally item destruction happens a lot more
08:12 <LarienTelrunya> official slex changelog: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/master/history2.txt
08:23 <picaresquieu> Got Magicbane on my very first sac
08:23 <picaresquieu> And a cloak of displacement
08:24 <picaresquieu> We're going places
08:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4759 points, T:4322, killed by a rothe, while praying
08:49 <picaresquieu> Ugh
08:49 <picaresquieu> Bullshit
08:49 <picaresquieu> Thanks for nothing, Thoth
08:51 <K2> Thoth laughs at your rebuke
09:08 <aosdict> killed by a rothe, while praying to Thoth
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09:12 <picaresquieu> I'm just mad because i didn't think to engrave the E-word with my shiny new Magicbane _before leading the rothes to an expected slaughter
09:12 <picaresquieu> I only thought of it when i was at 1 HP and blinded for telepathy
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:59007
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59008
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09:32 <picaresquieu> Alright
09:33 <picaresquieu> So my stupid dog fell in a pit in Sokoban
09:33 <picaresquieu> And he doesn't seem to want to leave it
09:33 <picaresquieu> Maybe there's a soft doggy bed down there
09:33 <K2> pull it out
09:34 <picaresquieu> Too late
09:35 <picaresquieu> I was at the point where i couldn't access it without smashing the present boulder
09:35 <picaresquieu> And then i inexplicably had the "sad feeling for a moment, then it passes
09:35 <picaresquieu> I have no idea what it could have been fighting
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:3765
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] picaresquieu (Val Elf Fem Neu), 23718 points, T:10055, killed by a white unicorn
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] picaresquieu (Tou Elf Mal Neu), 50 points, T:126, killed by a jackal
09:49 <picaresquieu> 😎🔫
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10:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:59661
10:27 <AntiGulp> So I couldn’t figure out where the segfault luxidream got came from, and then it turned out someone had raised an issue on my github page an hour before it happened describing in detail how to fix the bug in the code that caused it. The weird thing is that this person has no github history, I have no idea who they are, and the bug was pretty obscure. I’m thankful but confused
10:27 <Beholder> AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-07-22 16:57 EDT: mis-spelling in one of the tips of the day - 'Splicehack Tip of the Day: Wans of wonder cannot grant wishes.'
10:27 <K2> ;)
10:27 <K2> i updated splicehack yesterday with the fix you pushed
10:27 <AntiGulp> Yay! Down with segfaults :D
10:28 <K2> make infernals fire resistant kthx :P
10:28 <K2> surprised M2_DEMON doesnt already do that
10:29 <AntiGulp> I’ll put it in the development branch, it should be especially interesting with object materials :P
10:29 <AntiGulp> And yeah, you would think M2_DEMON would take care of it
10:30 <K2> ooh makes me want to look at what angels (monster) have res to
10:30 <AntiGulp> Hmmm, it doesn’t look like they have a consistent resistance
10:31 <K2> really
10:31 <K2> heh
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10:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15365
10:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15366
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:61298
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:61299
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11:17 <aosdict> it would probably set a bad precedent for an M2_* flag to imply a MR_* resistance.
11:17 <aosdict> Infernal fire res should be implemented using the same code for other race trinsics, like elven sleep resistance.
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11:20 <AntiGulp> aosdict: Probably.
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11:22 <aosdict> plus that would allow you to only turn on the res after a certain level if you wanted to
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11:28 <Tangles> in dnethack, trollsbane == vladbane :)
11:30 <aosdict> because vlad is a troll?
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11:30 <LarienTelrunya> does dnethack have a troll monster flag among its 200 new flags?
11:30 <Tangles> aosdict: that must be it!
11:32 <Tangles> also trollsbane is silver and does extra damage against regenerating and covetous monsters, so that helps :)
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11:33 <PavelB> Was freenode having issues a couple minutes ago? 
11:33 <PavelB> I was having weird connection problems
11:35 <K2> freenode hasnt had any issues that i'm aware of
11:37 <aosdict> Tangles: why covetous? trolls aren't covetous
11:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:61848
11:37 <PavelB> Ah hah! Mystery solved. Freenode kicks every irccloud user once or twice a year to get rid of stale connections from inactive users.
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11:38 <Tangles> aosdict: I don't know. Maybe because covetous monsters troll you by warping away when you try to fight them.
11:38 <K2> YANI: weapon called RodneyBane, does spectacular damage against the WoY and negates the spell power drain affect while holding the amulet. resides in a temple surrounded by very tough monsters, and guarded by the wizard himself
11:39 <Tangles> nice :)
11:39 <PavelB> Is Rodney another name for WoY?
11:39 <Tangles> Yes
11:39 <K2> si
11:40 <Tangles> Rodney is Yendor backwards.
11:40 <PavelB> Ah
11:41 <oh6> about the only gameplay difference for buc-in-bag is that it allows buc on scare monster scrolls without technically dropping them (380 lines behind)
11:42 <Tangles> oh6: yes I've used that! (in nh4 variants)
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11:43 <PavelB> !who
11:43 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] Eleven [nh361] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
11:45 <Tangles> Anyway, my current inc pirate has now successfully looted the sunless sea (one magic lamp, a couple of amulets, 3 figurines and 2 artifacts) without drowning due to being burdened, and mostly cleared Vlad's tower without exploding a drawbridge in his own face, which makes this my best run so far.
11:46 <Tangles> Onward to new, and increasingly creative YASD!
11:47 <Tangles> ...tomorrow. Now it's bed time. 'night!
11:48 <LarienTelrunya> Tangles: if you make it to the ***** ****** (aosdict can guess what I mean :D), send him to hell in my name!
11:48 <Tangles> haha
11:48 <Tangles> I know who you mean :)
11:48 <LarienTelrunya> :D
11:49 <K2> heh
11:51 <LarienTelrunya> why do I need legs to jump? apparently the lack of those means I can't jump while polymorphed into a snake :(
11:53 <PavelB> Pretty sure snakes can't jump.
11:56 <LarienTelrunya> YASI: if polymorphed, trying to #chat gives different results depending on your monster sound. For example, being polymorphed into an orc will cause elves to become angry upon chatted to them, not sure what the effects of stuff like MS_HISS or MS_MUMBLE or others would be though.
12:01 <PavelB> Why YASI? That's a great idea. Might be a bit hard to implement for all the different possible interactions though.
12:02 <LarienTelrunya> yeah that's what I meant, there are many different monster sounds but I don't really know how to actually make them different gameplay-wise
12:03 <rld> <@Dracunos> Man frost brand is great
12:03 <rld> <@Dracunos> Usually my saber doesn't even hit because they 1hko
12:04 <rld> <@Dracunos> Minotaur only takes two bumps, instead of three or more with excal/longsword
12:09 <rld> <@Dracunos> Now I can actually bribe these demons, instead of dealing with their annoyingness.. Does bribe make them disappear or do they just stand there and stare at you every time you pass through? :p
12:12 <bug_sniper> yasi: a polymorph whose other head does make interesting conversation and you can get it to like you
12:13 <rld> <@Dracunos> I guess they disappear, that's good.. I didn't know you could bribe soldiers too, that's kinda neat
12:14 <rld> <@luxidream> bug_sniper: ettins?
12:15 <LarienTelrunya> bug_sniper: originally the reason why that was not implemented was because players might ask "hey can I get two helm slots too, or six ring slots as a marilith?"
12:16 <PavelB> And then you can `#chat .`
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12:19 <rld> <@luxidream> Didn’t people want sixweaponing as a marilith?
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12:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64166
12:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64178
12:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 250 points, T:2268, killed by a black pudding
12:21 <K2> that was dumb
12:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:64360
12:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64368
12:27 <PavelB> !whereis Eleven
12:27 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] Eleven [nh361]: (Cav Hum Fem Neu) T:64361 Gehennom level: 51
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12:30 <rld> <@bugsniper> lol
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12:30 <picaresquieu_> ugh my IRC client is bugging out
12:30 <PavelB> !lastgame K2
12:30 <picaresquieu_> Either that or someone copped my nick
12:30 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1532362210.splice.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/dumplog/1526163619.nh361.txt
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12:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:64738
12:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64739
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12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 270 points, T:582, killed by a water moccasin
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12:55 <rld> <@luxidream> The goblin zaps a spiked wand! The death ray hits you!
12:55 <rld> <@luxidream> k
12:55 <LarienTelrunya> @luxidream: ouch :( that happened to me too many goddamn times this junethack
12:56 <LarienTelrunya> in my case it was 2x lieutenant and one time a hill orc
12:58 <hothraxxa> where's fiq? i want to complain about the fucking wand balance patch
12:59 <LarienTelrunya> yessssssssssss! hothraxxa: do it! the wand destruction patch is evil incarnate and I will genocide it once I learn how to genocide things that you cannot genocide :D
12:59 <hothraxxa> i was expert in wands, i had a blessed wand of death, rodney showed up, i zapped him, goodbye two levels
13:00 <hothraxxa> later on the astral plane i forgot myself and zapped pesty. lost three levels that time
13:00 <LarienTelrunya> well, at least it wasn't a wand of lightning, because the explosion would have nuked your own wand of death
13:00 <hothraxxa> i know
13:00 * LarienTelrunya is of the opinion that increasing a skill level should not give the player disadvantages
13:00 <hothraxxa> ya think?
13:01 <LarienTelrunya> once the skill is high enough to get explosions, there is no way to get back the normal, non-exploding ray :(
13:01 <hothraxxa> i should have cursed the fucking wand
13:01 <hothraxxa> yes there is, you curse the wand
13:01 <LarienTelrunya> heh, I guess that works, but requires resources that you really shouldn't be forced to use
13:01 <hothraxxa> agreed
13:01 <hothraxxa> it's REALLY FUCKING STUPID
13:01 <LarienTelrunya> ^^
13:02 <LarienTelrunya> tell him! if it was just me he'd dismiss it but he can't ignore you :D
13:02 <hothraxxa> sure he can
13:02 <hothraxxa> this was fourk so jonadab is on the hook too
13:02 <LarienTelrunya> yeah but I have the "bitch malus", i.e. my opinion is much more easily dismissed because I'm bitchy, apparently
13:02 * hothraxxa hugs  LarienTelrunya 
13:03 <LarienTelrunya> awwwwwww ♥
13:03 <LarienTelrunya> *kiss*
13:03 * hothraxxa blushes
13:03 <LarienTelrunya> we'll go on a large mission together - the mission to banish evil patches from the nethack world! :D (just kidding!)
13:06 <hothraxxa> !tell fiq how does this make sense? i'm expert in wands, i have a blessed wand of death, i zap rodney and lose two levels? advancing my wand skill results in a danger and makes some wands impractical at a critical stage of the game, which is just plain stupid. please fix, thanks
13:06 <Beholder> Will do, hothraxxa!
13:07 <LarienTelrunya> hmm I guess the samurai's low wand skill cap is actually an advantage in that regard, and yeah it's really stupid
13:08 <LarienTelrunya> in vanilla, it's at least relegated to two spells that the samurai can never cast anyway (fireball and cone of cold - can't get the ray once you're skilled, ever, and can't cast it on water at all)
13:08 <NeroOneTrueKing> You can choose not to advance your skill in wands, so I don't think being limited is an actual advantage
13:08 <Beholder> NeroOneTrueKing: Message from @rikersan at 2018-07-10 18:45 EDT: Tarmunora once mentioned you having a "python script" that like is a database of monsters and stuff, queryable.  mind sharing it with me?
13:08 <hothraxxa> samurais. you mean the guys that get dozens of wands on their quest, those samurais?
13:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Dro Mal Neu), 1862 points, T:1998, killed by a horned devil
13:09 <picaresquieu> A horned devil on Dlvl:5
13:09 <picaresquieu> You gotta be kidding me
13:09 <hothraxxa> NeroOneTrueKing: that rsults in disadvantages too, eg wands of teleport that fail
13:09 <aosdict> bones or chameleon probably
13:09 <LarienTelrunya> yeah, samurai can get to skilled only, but at least they get lots of wands of does not work (teleport) :P
13:10 <LarienTelrunya> in FIQhack or fourk, you *need* to have a wand of cold around drowning monsters because tele doesn't work; thankfully you can genocide semicolons ;)
13:11 <hothraxxa> fourk nerfs lightning damage to wands and rings, fortunately
13:12 <NeroOneTrueKing> Importantly in FIQHack, extrinsic protection (like from object properties) protects your inventory, so some gloves of shock resistance keep your wands and rings perfectly safe
13:13 <hothraxxa> yes, the standard fiq response
13:13 <hothraxxa> use an important slot to protect stuff, very practical
13:14 <aosdict> I mean, it seems like a design goal of fiqhack to give you more holes in your defenses than you can keep covered with armor and intrinsics
13:14 <aosdict> which is not a bad goal
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13:15 <hothraxxa> depends. do you want a game that's fun to play or one that's more challenging but frustrating?
13:16 <LarienTelrunya> another "fun" change in FH is the wand of uberslowmonster which has literally no counter, unless that got changed recently
13:16 <NeroOneTrueKing> I think it makes the game more fun to play because there is more variation between runs, based on the items I get
13:16 <LarienTelrunya> on astral you can be sure to be zapped by such a wand and then you're slow for hundreds of turns with no way to cure it
13:16 <LarienTelrunya> and even if there was a cure, you'd just be zapped again
13:16 <rld> <@IceBox> wait i generally found fh to be more forgiving with respect to resistances and protection. I suppose it can be tough that "resistance" doesn't negate in the same way that vanilla does
13:16 <hothraxxa> you can get cancelled
13:16 <rld> <@IceBox> having a ring of fire resistance portect all my gear was pretty sick in gehennom, haha
13:17 <rld> <@IceBox> being cancelled in fh is a major problem
13:17 <hothraxxa> but easily come by
13:17 <rld> <@IceBox> like both literally with respect to praying and emotionally cuz it sucks
13:17 <hothraxxa> hence my comment about being fun
13:17 <LarienTelrunya> but on the ascension run you can't pray very often, and the wand has several charges so you'll just be zapped again, like with slow monster :P
13:18 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah and my only experience were a bunch of valk runs during junethack, so it was fine for that role
13:18 <rld> <@IceBox> slow monster is protected by MR or reflect though right?
13:18 <NeroOneTrueKing> Slowing is a pain, yeah, and I hope FIQ adds ways to resist slowing
13:19 <NeroOneTrueKing> In my experience, cancellation is very rare
13:19 <hothraxxa> sure, an amulet of never slow me
13:19 <hothraxxa> hah. not in mine
13:20 <hothraxxa> i tihnk i was cancelled in at least half my fh games
13:21 <NeroOneTrueKing> Ouch
13:21 <NeroOneTrueKing> It doesn't work on Astral, but if you find a magic trap, that can cure cancellation
13:21 <hothraxxa> i was marking every magic trap because of that
13:22 <hothraxxa> but yeah, astral is a major problem. when i was playing there were still create monster swarms too, and some of them had nasty wands
13:23 <hothraxxa> i think he's toned down the mobs a bit but they still happen
13:24 <hothraxxa> i was using a magic harp to deal with them but i know he was talking about nerfing charm monster, don't know what eventually happened
13:24 <hothraxxa> two things i try to have on the planes: magic harp and tooled horn
13:24 <hothraxxa> i'll wish for them if i have to
13:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Dro Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1337
13:26 <picaresquieu> Guess i earned my 1337 h4xx0r badge today
13:26 <NeroOneTrueKing> I think I've died in FIQHack's Astral as often as I've ascended 
13:27 <hothraxxa> from what i've seen, sporkhack's astral is the worst
13:28 <LarienTelrunya> spork has superpowered angels, apparently
13:28 <hothraxxa> their magic missile attack has no defense as far as i can tell
13:28 <nooodle> that feeling when you have AC -19 by dungeon level 4 in vanilla nethack. #MissMe
13:28 <PavelB> how tho
13:29 <nooodle> protection racket, failed pacifist
13:29 <PavelB> Nice
13:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1681
13:30 <nooodle> because i accidentally one-hit-kiled a gnome zombie with a wielded apple :(
13:30 <PavelB> I did not know you can wield apples
13:31 <hothraxxa> you can wield almost anything
13:31 <nooodle> it was before i had gotten cream pies, the pacifist weapon of choice
13:31 <picaresquieu> The gnome zombie must have been a Healer when it was alive 😉
13:31 <hothraxxa> which in fourk means you can fooproof anything
13:31 <nooodle> wow you can really fireproof scrolls?
13:32 <hothraxxa> yes, and i have
13:32 <hothraxxa> it's really only good for protecting scrolls and potions you want to carry in the open
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13:51 <NeroOneTrueKing> !tell rikersan: Here you go! https://pastebin.com/drxvYUYf
13:51 <Beholder> Will do, NeroOneTrueKing!
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14:14 <PavelB> NeroOneTrueKing: The same thing, but as an interactive script: https://gist.github.com/pavelbraginskiy/fec999a01b380ce6ef7a14385f16b7ff
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed historic platinum yendorian express card", on T:10359
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65075
14:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2118
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15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 899 points, T:2868, killed by an imp
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:65555
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15:18 <LarienTelrunya> gah, TIL zapping a wand of make invisible downwards makes the engraving disappear
15:18 <LarienTelrunya> now my Elbereth is gone :(
15:19 <PavelB> What were you hoping to achieve by zapping a wand of make invisible downwards?
15:19 <LarienTelrunya> this is slex, I made my items invisible so that nymphs cannot steal them
15:20 <rld> <@IceBox> yo i grabbed this screenshot from where i left off last night. I have TONS of options but i need advice on which one guarantees my survival. I underestimated spell hunger and now i'm fainting and almost dead
15:20 <rld> <IceBox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/471033786176372746/unknown.png
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:65927
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65927
15:21 <rld> <@IceBox> in terms of wands i have teleport and polymorph wands (unsure if polymorph has charges)
15:21 <rld> <@IceBox> also a wand of death
15:21 <rld> <@IceBox> praying wont heal me AND fix my hunger, right?
15:21 <PavelB> It will protect you *while* praying at least
15:21 <PavelB> So it'll fix one of your problems
15:21 <Muad> i think it can do both, and it's your only choice
15:22 <Muad> self-poly into own race would take care of the hunger but it takes two turns
15:22 <rld> <@IceBox> my luck and alignment are good, is prayer guaranteed to work?
15:22 <PavelB> Depends on how recently you last prayed
15:22 <rld> <@IceBox> hmm, i think it's been a while but yeah not sure
15:23 <rld> <@IceBox> last prayed to get some holy water
15:23 <PavelB> I think it's safe after 1000 turns, but I might be way off, so don't trust me on that
15:23 <rld> <@IceBox> so if prayer isn't an option, whats next best? zap with teleport and hope i'm far enough away?
15:23 <rld> <@IceBox> that seems highly likely to work, but not 100%
15:24 <PavelB> I think you can check how long ago you last prayed?
15:25 <PavelB> IDK if Ctrl-x shows
15:25 <rld> <@IceBox> in vanilla i thought enlightenment was the only way
15:25 <rld> <@IceBox> i know variants allow that
15:26 <PavelB> According to the wiki, prayer timeout is "generally somewhere between 50 and 1000"
15:26 <PavelB> Which is extremely helpful
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15:28 <rld> <@IceBox> haha yeah i always assume 1000
15:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6572
15:28 <rld> <@IceBox> i just remember getting hosed by prayer once in a situation where i thought it should've worked
15:28 <rld> <@IceBox> but i think it was because my luck was negative
15:29 <rld> <@IceBox> obviously it could fail if it was negative, i just mean that i'm not sure if it was negative or not, which is probably why it failed
15:30 <rld> <@Dracunos> How many turns has it been anyway
15:30 <rld> <@IceBox> no way to tell without enlightenment, i believe
15:30 <rld> <@IceBox> so i didn't know
15:30 <rld> <@IceBox> wand of teleport worked
15:30 <rld> <@IceBox> crisis averted
15:30 <PavelB> nice
15:31 <rld> <@Dracunos> You are supposed to engrave an item with your last prayer turn
15:31 <rld> <@Dracunos> I do it all the time*
15:31 <PavelB> or play a variant that tells you with ctrl-x
15:31 <rld> <@Dracunos> Yeah or play a variant if you don't care that your wins don't count
15:33 <rld> <@IceBox> lol, never change drac
15:33 <rld> <@IceBox> and that's a good idea, i dont name things enough with useful info
15:34 <PavelB> @Dracunos Hey, who says variant wins don't count?
15:34 <PavelB> They're still logged right next to the vanilla wins
15:35 <rld> <@Dracunos> Only hack wins count
15:35 <rld> <@luxidream> you mean rogue?
15:35 <rld> <@Dracunos> Yeah only rogue
15:35 <PavelB> I was pleasantly surprised the other day to discover my distro came with Nethack 3.6.1, Hack, *and* Rogue.
15:36 <rld> <@Dracunos> But not angband
15:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Dro Mal Neu), 1220 points, T:1759, killed by a dwarf
15:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:19555
15:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66251
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 1438 points, T:1496, killed by a parrot
15:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18200
16:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66323
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16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66325
16:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66346
16:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66350
16:09 <aosdict> hothraxxa: [backscroll] why were you marking fiqhack magic traps? you can ctrl-f them...
16:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66373
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66378
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:66379
16:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66387
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66394
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66400
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:66402
16:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66414
16:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66417
16:16 <rld> <@IceBox> general question: when people are playing fast in areas that involve lots of message spam, are you guys just alternatively pressing the escape key while moving?
16:16 <Muad> often, yes
16:19 <K2> or you can just suppress a lot of those messages altogether
16:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:66430
16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:66435
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 1567428 points, T:66436, killed by a priestess of Moloch (with the Amulet)
16:21 <picaresquieu> Sometimes when crowded by monsters and using conflict—like on the ascension run—I like to put on a blindfold so that all that monster-on-monster violence gets reduced to "you hear some noises"
16:22 <K2> doh
16:22 <rld> <@IceBox> ouch, sorry Eleven 😦
16:22 <picaresquieu> It does bother me that i make a significant change in my play style in order to get around a headache in the interface
16:23 <rld> <@IceBox> that's hilarious about the blindfold, i've never thought of that
16:24 <aosdict> you could drop in a MSGTYPE=hide on "The * hits the *" when you hit the Planes, or something
16:24 <picaresquieu> I've got no Esc key when I'm playing on my tablet so i have to make do :P
16:24 <picaresquieu> Yeah MSGTYPE is probably the more elegant way to do it
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16:49 <picaresquieu> Playing as an anachrononaut and i reached this Ravine area, with a drawbridge and no way to cross it
16:50 <picaresquieu> Is this stuff specific to the anachrononaut or is it in dnh more generally?
16:52 <[Demo]> you aren't ready to cross it
16:52 <[Demo]> that is vlads
16:52 <[Demo]> and that is dnh
16:52 <picaresquieu> Oh
16:52 <[Demo]> and you can break the iron bars with striking
16:52 <[Demo]> or the likes
16:52 <picaresquieu> So vlad isn't in Gehennom
16:52 <[Demo]> and if you can do diagonals and fly there is a way in that takes no striking
16:52 <[Demo]> yep the stairs to his branch are there
16:53 <rld> <@Dracunos> I'm not even sure if I want to finish this character
16:54 <rld> <@Dracunos> I could kill her off and update to 3.6.1 finally and start something fresh and new
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17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20673
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "the blessed greased fixed amulet of reflection", on T:20765
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17:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] picaresquieu (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 16722 points, T:4951, killed by a leocrotta
17:26 <picaresquieu> God
17:26 <picaresquieu> Anachrononaut is hard
17:27 <picaresquieu> I mean, for a role that starts with a ton of futuristic weaponry
17:27 <picaresquieu> I guess i should have used the arm blaster
17:28 <[Demo]> it has a bit of a curve
17:29 <[Demo]> but once you get used to it it is soooooooooooooo ridiculously easy
17:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] arnibald (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:72432
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17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 82 points, T:716, killed by a small mimic
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18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20051
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18:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1757
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19:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 331 points, T:3225, died of starvation, while fainted
19:08 <hothraxxa> as a fucking wererat who couldn't pray
19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 5983 points, T:5664, killed by a dwarf lord
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19:31 <Grasshopper> !who
19:31 <Beholder> Grasshopper: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl] hothraxxa [spl] k2 [spl] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 2241 points, T:3577, killed by a giant mimic
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20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 13952 points, T:9619, killed by a black unicorn
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20:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:5935
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20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4435 points, T:6289, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
20:35 <Pinkbeast> Gasp hot
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20:37 <aosdict> YASI: ice eye. Gives a whole new meaning to "frozen by a monster's gaze".
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20:39 <hothraxxa> You read: "Here lies k2. For fucksake...".  You see here a minor angel corpse.
20:42 <hothraxxa> there's a crapton of loot here but it's not on the grave or under the ghost, who was away from the grave
20:43 <hothraxxa> let's see how much is cursed
20:43 <aosdict> if it's not on the grave then you're free
20:46 <hothraxxa> yes i thought so
20:46 <hothraxxa> so only a few cursed items. thanks, k2!
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20:47 <hothraxxa> bah, the magic marker is blessed. how did that happen?
20:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 440 points, T:1046, killed by a hobgoblin
20:50 <aosdict> !tell AntiGulp should minor angels (or infernals) really leave corpses?
20:50 <Beholder> Will do, aosdict!
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20:57 <K2> welcome ;)
21:00 <aosdict> why is there no TREE command in the level compiler
21:01 <aosdict> ugh now I have to add one
21:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3691
21:05 <PavelB> aosdict: TREE like the plant or TREE like the branching structure?
21:05 <aosdict> like the dungeon feature #
21:05 <aosdict> and trees the plant have a branching structure :)
21:06 <PavelB> So xnh is getting more trees? :3
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21:19 <aosdict> PavelB: I'm adding two Oracle level variants
21:19 <aosdict> one of which has trees
21:19 <PavelB> Oh, nice.
21:27 <rld> <@Dracunos> How about tree traps?
21:32 <picaresquieu> Ugh
21:32 <picaresquieu> There needs to be something to keep traps from blocking up hallways in the Gnomish Mines
21:32 <picaresquieu> You can't always find a pickaxe to get around it
21:34 <Pinkbeast> Well, you can go elsewhere or suck up the trap.
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21:39 <ais523> Beholder: messages?
21:39 <Beholder> ais523: Messages from @luxidream and Luxidream have been forwarded to you privately.
21:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 429 points, T:1692, killed by reckless use of blood magic
21:40 <picaresquieu> Yeah I'm just bitching
21:42 <ais523> !tell @Luxidream you probably realised this yourself, but most terminals don't send distinguishable codes for ctrl-numpad; shift-numpad does seem to be parseable, though (as, oddly, does ctrl-shift-numpad), so there's scope for improvement over what we have at the moment, even if less than you might be expecting
21:42 <Beholder> Will do, ais523!
21:45 <Pinkbeast> The narrow chokepoints in the mines vex me more.
21:48 <Pinkbeast> Those, you can't get through without doing a little Boring But Optimal dance
21:49 <ais523> Evil Variant: a diagonal chokepoint on an unlit level that has lava two squares beyond it
21:50 <Pinkbeast> Spork's lava Gehennom levels did chafe me a bit
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22:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 glowing dragon scales", on T:4634
22:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:22733
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3889
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4467 points, T:6804, killed by a bolt of fire
23:04 <picaresquieu> Is it worth enchanting Mojo/getting hammer skill to expert?
23:05 <picaresquieu> Since most of the damage is from the lightning rather than the hammer itself
23:23 <aosdict> Do you plan on using it long term? If so, yes, if not, then it really depends on how much you plan to use it now.
23:23 <picaresquieu> Probably will use it long-term, being Neutral (no Excal)
23:24 <picaresquieu> Good answer
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