00:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 33121 points, T:12780, killed by a bolt of fire 00:05 A food item called an "irrational pie" 00:05 Well that's completely new to me 00:06 grats on the bones 00:06 unless you're playing slex. in which case, carry on. 00:13 heh 00:14 i play slex by just trying on stuff and using stuff willy nilly 00:14 because i'm probably going to get killed in some unfair way anyway 00:24 <@Tone> K2 I think you can already ride mammoths in vanilla 00:24 mammoths don't exist in vanilla 00:24 <@Tone> Wait what am I thinking of 00:24 <@luxidream> wumpus? 00:25 mastodons? 00:25 <@luxidream> Titanothere? 00:25 Baluchitherium? 00:25 <@luxidream> Mumak? 00:25 <@Tone> Mastodon, yes 00:25 <@Tone> Sorry, carry on 😅 00:26 I thought you can't ride them in vanilla because I thought I remembered some variant dev adding that ability, possibly AntiGulp 00:27 <@Tone> I seem to remember doing it as a caveman a long time ago, for fun 00:27 <@luxidream> Mastodons and wumpuses 00:28 <@luxidream> wumpuses are rideable, but they go along the ceiling to cross water 00:28 <@luxidream> So you’ll fall off if you’re riding one and try it 00:28 really, how are you supposed to ride a wumpus at all 00:28 they go along the ceiling *all the time* 00:29 they don't fall in pits, etc 00:29 and if you were riding one somehow, crossing water shouldn't matter 00:29 <@luxidream> So they’re treated as flying? Lol 00:30 <@Tone> ha, that's great. I never knew that 00:30 <@Tone> I never would have considering riding a speed 3 monster 😄 00:32 gnite all 00:33 <@Tone> Now I want to poly into a wumpus and try things 00:33 <@Tone> nite K2 00:34 <@luxidream> goodnight 00:37 <@luxidream> so someone just posted this on the wiki on the short sword page 00:37 <@luxidream> “However, twoweaponed at a high level of skill, short swords can produce damage equal or superior to any single artifact weapon on the average” 00:37 <@luxidream> Should this be removed? 00:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:43 <@luxidream> This isn’t very useful information, and is also true about scimitars, sabers, etc 00:45 <@Tone> That's pretty misleading 00:47 it should be contested... perhaps not removed outright 00:47 leave a comment on their talk page, perhaps 00:47 <@luxidream> twoweaponing +7 war hammers outdamages stormbringer 00:47 <@luxidream> war hammer > stormbringer 00:48 <@Tone> And it's not true in every circumstance. The brands will do more damage on average in many circumstances 00:48 what that sentence fails to account for is that *artifacts* can be twoweaponed with something else 00:48 most of them anyway 00:49 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 00:49 it's basically saying "expert 2wep shortsword > one-handing fire brand", which is true more or less 00:50 <@Tone> And it's only elven short swords that are really comparable 00:51 <@Tone> It speaks more about twoweapon than short swords honestly 00:54 <@luxidream> I see 00:54 <@luxidream> I’d rather not get into an argument lol 00:54 <@luxidream> But it’s probably better to talk it out rather than remove it outright 01:00 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 01:06 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- stenno is now known as Guest5202 01:09 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 01:09 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:13 -!- Guest5202 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 01:23 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:101473 01:23 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:101475 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) genocided T dungeon wide on T:24705 01:29 !who 01:29 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] rustmonster [nh13d] picaresquieu [un] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 01:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:30 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 01:34 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 01:36 go raisse! 01:42 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 01:42 Excuse my french but god fucking dammit 01:43 The bell of opening is somewhere in the dungeon. Who knows where i left it? Certainly not me 01:43 How do i do this to myself 01:52 <@IceBox> ouchies that sounds like a nightmare 01:52 <@IceBox> unless you're playing fh, then just ctrl+f 😉 01:53 Ughr 01:54 Somehow i left it right by the DLvl:1 upstair on one of my many trips past there 01:54 I have all my spellbooks and a bunch of supplies for the Planes stashed right by the upstair 01:55 And a little closet to study up in 01:55 FH has a ctrl+F stash function like DCSS? 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed pickaxe", on T:27528 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed pick axe", on T:27530 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "pick-axe", on T:27532 01:57 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 01:58 That's some humble wish 02:09 <@IceBox> yeah fh has search and it's the best thing ever, so nice for the ascension kit part of the game 02:09 <@IceBox> at least for a new player 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of fireball", on T:29605 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of cone of cold", on T:29624 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of teleport away", on T:29665 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect unseen", on T:29702 02:21 wow, those were all spells in 1.3d? 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect monster", on T:30168 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect treasure", on T:30175 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect treasure", on T:30191 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of dig", on T:30207 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of cancellation", on T:30238 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect monster", on T:31128 02:49 if rustmonster wished for a spellbook of detect monster*s* they might get it 02:50 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed Wizard of Yendor, on T:31764 02:59 <@luxidream> !tell AntiGulp I'm wondering why there are no infernal pirates? 02:59 Will do, @luxidream! 02:59 <@luxidream> !tell AntiGulp I wanted to play one 😦 02:59 Will do, @luxidream! 02:59 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 606500 points, T:32383, escaped (with amulet) 03:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- stenno is now known as Guest69272 03:13 -!- Guest69272 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:15 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:36 aosdict: what do you mean "slex will never implement object materials", it already has, but of course in a way different from grunt/xnh :D 03:53 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:10 -!- stenno is now known as Guest95078 05:15 -!- Guest95078 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:58 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 05:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:59 Mandevil: could u be so kind and check for me the fastest realtime you have in the scoreboard db for 3.6.1? 06:06 stenno: Sure. 06:07 thx <3 06:10 It's by someone named 'stenno'. 06:10 From yesterday. 06:11 can you give me a top 10 or so? 06:11 https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/nethack/realtime.361.txt 06:11 athanks! 06:11 OK. 06:12 Waitaminute. 06:12 sorry for the hassle, its greatly apprechiated ^_^ 06:14 Hang on, I am prettifying the query a little. 06:20 stenno: https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/nethack/realtime.361.txt 06:22 great, thanks! 06:22 well then i am hereby officially claiming 3.6.1 world record 06:22 already did that yesterday but wasn't 100% sure 06:22 thanks again 06:22 NHS needs realtime category too. 06:22 will this page be static for now so i can brag with it? 06:23 Yes. 06:25 thx thx :3 06:37 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 06:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:40 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:43 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 07:06 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41 realtime speedrun challenge is out 07:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56 come at me ppl 08:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:17 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 606500 points, T:32383, escaped (with amulet) 09:18 How did this happen? E 09:19 Levelport to a negative level? 09:21 its nethack 1.3d 09:21 this is basically 'ascended' 09:21 its what 'ascended' means in 1.3d 09:32 Ah 09:32 Does 1.3d have the Planes? 09:32 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 09:35 nice, dwarf with infinite HP 09:36 took 4 hits from my long sword 09:36 must've had AC:-4 or so at least 09:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:36414 09:58 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 15304 points, T:6610, killed by a warg 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:37532 10:09 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 10:12 <[Demo]> i really love how you can call any variant crashhack 10:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:22 this is awesome 10:22 my nearsight is getting bad enough, i have to icrease the font size of my irc chat window 10:22 bleh 10:24 picaresquieu: I don't think so, you go up the upstairs on level 1 with the amulet which counts as finishing the game successfully 10:24 picaresquieu: no planes 10:24 picaresquieu: this is me ^^ writing from my evil twin account because that's where your question is 10:24 Heheh 10:25 @luxidream https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=123344&oldid=123307&rcid=73157 10:25 time to quit messing around and go see an eye doctor, get my eyes checked 10:25 I gotta play me sl 10:25 Some 1.3d 10:25 Elf role 10:25 K2: you would look dignified in glasses probably 10:25 i dont care how i'd look 10:25 i just want my eyes back to normal :( 10:26 and i dont think lasik fixes nearsight 10:26 now my keyboard keys look fuzzy 10:26 gdammit 10:27 <@Tone> :( 10:30 <@Tone> aosdict, @luxidream That revision seems a lot better imo 10:30 go look at a tree. how blobby is it? 10:30 b - a tree blob [seen: nearsightedness] 10:30 LarienTelrunya: add ^ to slex 10:31 aosdict: haha 10:31 maybe as a monster ;) 10:31 yes 10:33 when I started to see things fuzzy it was age-related farsightedness, never needed glasses until my early 50s 10:33 yeah its definitely age related 10:33 my farsight is still fine, last time i was checked last year it was 20/16 10:35 if it's presbyopia, which it sounds like, then all you need is some drugstore reading glasses 10:35 i bought some a couple months ago, i keep them at work 10:35 10 bucks 10:36 but i've noticed a change in just the last couple of weeks 10:36 yes when it hit me it was like that 10:36 i know it happens in spurts, just wondering how bad it'll get before it stops 10:36 one morning i couldn't see my breakfast clearly 10:37 i have trifocals myself 10:37 I used drugstore reading glasses for about a year for the choir book 10:37 then I noticed I didn't see my surroundings clearly either and went to the optometrist 10:37 i shouldnt complain, i'm closer to 50 than 40, but i dont feel old... i'm still fighting it 10:38 now I wear very intricate varifocals (I'm very astigmatic too) 10:38 dude. you are a whippersnapper 10:38 yes, he's a whippersnapper even compared to me 10:38 hothraxxa everyone here is a whippersnapper to you :P 10:38 hrm 10:38 not counting the real whippersnappers of course 10:38 heh 10:39 i am an averagesnapper i think 10:39 there are people under 20 in this channel 10:39 i am going to go play with my 8 magic markers and 250 potions now 10:39 I mean *younger than my daughters* 10:39 babies 10:39 hothraxxa i want to make it to 100 10:39 at least 10:39 that would be a good idea 10:40 good luck with that. i've seen it and it's usually not pretty 10:40 bhaak is a bit older than me i think, and adeon and khor are younger than me 10:40 sure, you see these robust 100 year olds on tv but you never see the ones in nursing homes etc 10:41 well... we'll see what happens 10:41 i think khor and kerio are younger than me 10:41 er 10:41 my wife's grandmother is pushing 94 and doing fine 10:41 are the same age 10:41 wait 10:41 how young is your wife then 10:41 I have a friend in new zealand whose great-grandmother is, I think, 104 10:41 but if i get to a point where i cant do shit but sleep and shit, i'll start looking for an exit plan 10:41 i had a great-uncle who died when he was 104 10:41 frail but still mentally okay 10:42 *cant do anything but 10:42 he fell off the roof of his house when he was repairing it 10:42 a great-aunt of mine died at 98 *in a traffic accident* 10:42 the line from my mothers, i had several grandparents and grand-aunts with 100+ years 10:42 <[Demo]> i wanna die before i get that far along because it sounds hard to be healthy and that old 10:42 ^^^ 10:42 stenno my wife is almost 10 yrs younger than me 10:42 i see 10:44 <[Demo]> nice 10:44 i'm hoping medical advancements in the next 50 yrs make being a centurian more... viable 10:44 i will probably die with 60 or 70 10:44 something like that 10:44 given the stuff i did as a teenager and beyond 10:44 i'm adopted so i have no idea of genetic family history 10:44 I expect to live into my 80s because everybody in my family in the maternal line has until now 10:45 (or 90s even) 10:45 i'll make it to 100 by sheer force of will ;) 10:46 idk at some point i'd feel that i'd just lived my life 10:47 if i could, i'd live forever 10:47 <[Demo]> i wouldnt 10:47 i always want to see what happens next 10:48 when my father knew he didn't have long to live (he was 87) he said he was looking forward to the next adventure 10:49 eh 10:49 i don't believe in the afterlife or anything 10:49 it'll just be over and thats fine 10:49 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:49 yeah i dont subscribe to the afterlife either 10:50 however 10:50 i'm open minded enough to say that maybe there is 'something' and we have no idea what it might be 10:50 I'm completely agnostic (that is, I don't *know*) 10:50 ^ THAT 10:50 x - a magazine named Valhalla Monthly. 10:50 sure 10:50 ^^ what you get if you subscribe to the afterlife 10:50 but i also don't believe in the concept of a soul or so 10:50 hopefully there is an afterlife and hopefully one can play slex in it :D 10:50 shrug 10:51 oh god... LarienTelrunya 10:51 dont ruin it! 10:51 well at least I said "can" instead of "has to" :P 10:51 <[Demo]> lol 10:52 there's a theory that states if you can imagine it, it can potentially happen within this universe at some point in spacetime 10:52 "evil patch idea" for real life: if you die and end up in Hell, you have to play SLEX endlessly until you ascend, while listening to non-stop polka music. 10:52 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:52 jonadab: ^^ 10:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:53 amy, i saw this and thought of you: https://scontent.fybz2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37592501_1708170082570633_4700488019210141696_n.jpg 10:53 hothraxxa: wtf if I click on that it says "Bad URL date param" 10:53 yeah i see that too. hang on 10:54 K2: i thought that was only for infinite parallel universes 10:54 https://scontent.fybz2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37592501_1708170082570633_4700488019210141696_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e7d1573ed74b7a79932a295408ffe507&oe=5C11C245 10:54 hothraxxa: haha :) is that a reference to a specific demon lord? 10:55 math would seem to show that infinite parallel universes does not necessarily mean there will be a universe where X exists/happens 10:55 i was just thinking it would be a source of many more slex demon lords 10:55 & - a demon lord named billy 10:55 heh, I have two billies in my room actually 10:56 I can give you a range of numbers that is uncountably infinite in size - such as all real numbers between 3 and 5 - and you're never going to find a number in that set which is 6 10:57 3.6 10:57 my logic trumps your math 10:58 Gottem 10:58 AntiGulp: Message from @luxidream at 2018-07-22 02:59 EDT: I'm wondering why there are no infernal pirates? 10:58 AntiGulp: Message from @luxidream at 2018-07-22 02:59 EDT: I wanted to play one 😦 10:58 AntiGulp i updated splicehack this morning, so infernal changes are in 10:58 Woo, thank you! 10:58 yo AntiGulp! I've seen that you are implementing slashem monsters? :) 10:59 I submitted a pull request to the devteam for the reflag. It wasn’t as hard as I thought, just RIDICULOUSLY tedious. 10:59 <[Demo]> should have scripted lol 10:59 I didn’t want to mess up the monst.c formatting lol 10:59 LarienTelrunya: Some of them, the ones that fit anyway. And I’m nerfing some to make sure they aren’t too op 11:00 why do splicehack monsters not have the struct epri field? 11:00 my infernal wizard ate a goblin this morning and my deity didnt get all bent out of shape about it :P 11:00 AntiGulp: awesome 11:00 AntiGulp: haha, speaking of "too OP monsters", I encountered a mystic scarab in the new slex earlier today... in splice it would have owned me, but my slex char one-shotted it 11:00 @le?mystic scarab 11:00 mystic scarab (x) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -20 | Attacks: 5d4 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, poisonous, infravisible 11:00 LarienTelrunya: They don’t? I thought for sure they did. Also why would you do this 11:02 Scarabs fly? 11:03 They're just beetles, aren't they? 11:03 Dung beetles 11:03 <[Demo]> mystic ones fly 11:03 I think at the very least some species of scarab have wings 11:03 birdhouse my daughter and I built and painted yesterday :) - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2494/source 11:03 there are flying beetles, not sure about scarab beetles though 11:03 K2 Aaaaaaaaw! 11:03 lol 11:04 awwwwwwww! 11:04 <@Tone> aww that's precious 11:04 we already saw a chickadee trying to use it but there's a robin with a nest of eggs nearby chasing it off hah 11:04 <[Demo]> how are the north eastern us birds actually? 11:04 <[Demo]> do you have any really cool ones? 11:04 owls 11:04 owls are cool 11:04 and hawks/eagles 11:05 <[Demo]> why arent there any nethack variants with owls? 11:05 good question 11:05 i love hawks. used to get a big thrill out of thermalling with one 11:05 all the owls married bears 11:05 cardinals 11:05 hothraxxa hahah 11:05 I saw a lot of cardinals in vermont 11:05 @le?giant owl 11:05 giant owl (B) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d2 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 11:06 hummingbirds are cool too, we have a few 11:06 also shiny mallard ducks 11:06 <[Demo]> sounds like youve got the same birds as central east coast 11:06 we get loons in the lake across the street 11:08 Where you at on the East Coast, Demo 11:08 I live a half hour from DC 11:09 <[Demo]> va but like not the bad awful northern part but the cool not awful central part 11:09 Hah nice 11:09 Nobody likes NOVA 11:09 <[Demo]> especially not the people that escape nova to here 11:09 <[Demo]> they just like to talk about how awful it was 11:11 <@Tone> Should I upload my bagless 343 ascension from junethack to youtube? 11:12 <@Tone> It was otherwise unnotable and was rather tedious due to the lack of said bag and other resources 11:12 AntiGulp: they may deny the pull request due to having splice specific stuff / not applying cleanly to vanilla 11:12 stuff like killed_king 11:14 aosdict: What the heck, why is that in there? This was off the vanilla branch. AAAAAAGH. Thanks for letting me know, I’m going to fix this. 11:15 It’s only in you.h, did the wrong one somehow get added? Ugh, worked so hard on this. 11:16 if i'd visit the USA i'd check out the natural parks 11:16 yellowstone 11:16 <@Tone> There are a lot of nice parks and good hiking here 11:17 or the rocky mountains 11:17 <@luxidream> @Tone I think for YouTube people like to watch let’s plays where the game is played for 30 min or so at a time. It’s a bit more digestible that way. 11:17 <[Demo]> yellowstone dumb touristy do real shit real shit cool shit we got real mountains without any touristy crap and they are real cool and its real not fake touristy crap 11:17 or new england 11:17 <[Demo]> but u might die but thats ok 11:18 just would want to see cool nature 11:18 <[Demo]> the coolest nature is the realest nature 11:18 don't care about anything else really 11:18 yeah 11:18 <@luxidream> your videos are probably more informative than most nethack play throughs, I think the only reason they don’t get views perhaps is presentation 11:18 <@luxidream> on stream doing what you do makes sense 11:19 just made the birdhouse pic my linkedin profile pic hah 11:19 @luxidream have you seen my speedrun challenge 11:19 <@Tone> eh I'm not really concerned about views 11:19 <@Tone> a while ago a lot of people were coming to #nethack saying that there were no good nethack videos on youtube 11:19 i made a post on reddit 11:19 <@Tone> by people who demonstrated the game well 11:20 <@Tone> So I figured I'd just upload a full ascension for every role 11:21 <@Tone> An ascension of mine i probably 8-10 hours so it doesn't really fit a 30 minute "let's play" structure 11:21 <@Tone> I realize the audience is pretty niche 11:22 @Tone: slex videos when :D 11:22 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Perhaps when I go to hell :P 11:22 <@luxidream> stenno: so it’s official now 11:23 <@luxidream> haha 11:23 I’ve always wanted to see a really compact tutorial series on nethack. 11:23 <@luxidream> Tone: there are let’s plays of nethack. They’re of similar lengths, actually 11:24 <@Tone> ah, I haven't looked around at much honestly 11:24 <@Tone> My ascensions aren't really built for youtube 11:25 <@Tone> They are just archives of stream footage and I don't really edit them for a youtube audience 11:25 AntiGulp: [backscroll] also, it's 3 commits, but looking briefly, the second and third commits didn't look relevant for the reflag 11:25 <@Tone> That aspect of it just isn't something I find very fun or worth my time so I haven't bothered :/ 11:25 <@luxidream> but once you’re done you should definitely make a reddit post or something of the like “I ascended/reviewed every role ascension if you need help watch this” 11:26 <[Demo]> how is the reflagging? 11:26 <[Demo]> is it like dnh? 11:26 <@Tone> Yeah I can do something like that 11:27 <@Tone> AntiGulp: I've considered doing short nethack videos demonstrating specific tactics or strategies in detail 11:27 aosdict: Four, now. The third and fourth are me fixing stupid splice artifacts that SOMEHOW got mixed in, but the first and second are both highly relevant. Demon, were, giant, and undead had to be migrated in order to not break monster warning. 11:27 @luxidream yeah official enough 11:27 <@Tone> I want to do one on getting through gehennom without tedium or using lots of magic mapping 11:27 <@luxidream> Yeah. There’s one tutorial video right now. It’s a ten minute video on movement 11:28 <@luxidream> I suppose the uploaded realized that if it took ten minutes to explain movement 11:28 <@Tone> My content probably isn't very good for absolute beginners 11:28 <@luxidream> Then everything else would be a nightmare 11:28 absolute beginner is a famous german hip hop crew 11:28 <@luxidream> So the series ended there lol 11:29 well or was, they were a big thing in the 90s 11:29 [Demo]: I don’t know what dnh uses, I basically moved all M2 flags relevant to monster identity/race into their own bitfield, and then updated the code based on that. It opens up 6-7 slots in M2, and opens the door for a ton of really neat things. 11:29 now jan delay is still famous 11:29 <[Demo]> so all the flags are still M#? 11:29 <@Tone> stenno Yeah I have a feeling they wouldn't be into my nethack content 😄 11:29 <[Demo]> like a number and not sorted into categories with like a letter to describe what they are for? 11:30 <[Demo]> you should really look into what dnh does and consider doing the same cause its great and it makes sense 11:30 dnh's reflagging is terrible because porting monsters to slex is so much work due to those weird flags of weirdness :P 11:30 [Demo]: Noted. I didn’t want to go too crazy with things (at first), just enough to prove that it could work. 11:31 <@Tone> Looks like the realtime speedrun race will be a fun one in the next tournament 11:31 slex's reflagging is so much better because it just adds M4, M5 etc. fields instead of moving existing ones around 11:31 <[Demo]> so slex, instead of fixing the confusing overgrown mess just makes it worse and you are proud?? :P 11:31 "confusing" what??? how is a neat and organized flag system confusing? 11:32 if there's a confusing flag system, it's dnethack's because I'm used to the vanilla system 11:33 <[Demo]> dnh actually sorts flag types into categories where as vanilla just chucks em all together and makes a huge mess which is really annoying when they are all ord together to check specific things 11:35 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:102508 11:35 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:102512 11:38 AntiGulp: nhmall said in #nethack-dev once that you generally don't need to bother with schema*.MSC stuff, just so you know. Not that you need to change it in the pull request. 11:39 aosdict: Yeah. I just figured that since it was a single function changing, I might as well make the edit just in case. 11:39 <@luxidream> AntiGulp: so why is there no devil pirate in spl? Is it just too powerful? I feel like it makes thematic sense at least. 11:40 infernal can be a pirate now 11:40 luxidream: TLDR the flags for races were mixed up, and continue to be mixed up until the great reflagging gets added. The updated version today allows devil pirates though, because I thought it was a crying shame not to be able to play them. 11:40 @Tone i hope i can encourage others to run 3.6.1 too 11:41 and i always thought it curious no differentiation between devils and demons code-wise 11:41 <@Tone> I'll try it at some point stenno 11:41 they all have M2_DEMON flag 11:41 luxidream: If anything, infernal barbarians are too powerful. I’ve tried that combo and it’s absolutely disgusting. 11:41 AntiGulp: counter that by making monsters spawn and/or use silver weapons more often 11:42 *spawn with 11:42 good idea 11:42 * LarienTelrunya wants to be able to play lawful infernal healers :P 11:44 <@luxidream> Does monster AI currently prioritize silver weapons? 11:45 hmm 11:45 dunno 11:45 <[Demo]> what do spl infernals do? 11:46 make sure to add object materials so that silver in general becomes more common :D 11:46 Checked out the weapons list, and not in vanilla at least. Silver sabers actually prioritized UNDER longswords, which is pretty weird. 11:47 <@luxidream> object materials almost killed me at xnh castle 11:47 <@luxidream> got a glass shield of reflection 11:47 <@luxidream> broke like instantly 11:47 <@luxidream> noped out of there quick 11:47 aosdict: I’ve been eyeing object materials for a while... 11:47 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:48 ok. i'm nekkid with 15 nurses. party time! 11:48 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 11:48 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:48 <@luxidream> AntiGulp: it’s not really weird. It is a better weapon against most things that aren’t demons 11:48 Ok the weapon preferences in vanilla are actually super confusing. Monsters prioritize scimitars over silver sabers, rubber hoses over athames, and a bunch of other really weird things. 11:48 <[Demo]> hmm 11:49 <@Winsalot> Hey guys, long time not see 😃 11:49 <@luxidream> hello winsalot 11:50 <@Tone> Hi Winsalot 😄 11:50 o/ 11:50 <@Winsalot> any good new updates in either FIQhack of slex? 😃 11:51 <@Tone> only minor bugfixes in fh I think 11:51 <@luxidream> AntiGulp: clearly they were preparing for Kops picking up athames :p 11:51 <@Tone> pretty sure slex had a big update after junethack? 11:51 @Winsalot: play SLEX 2.27 on esm! *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 11:52 +147 hp 11:52 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: why dot hdf? 11:52 <@Winsalot> update not here yet? 11:52 yeah it's a beta version and will be replaced soon-ish 11:54 <@Winsalot> Hm, sorry to say that, but if truncated message bug wasn't fixed on esm then I will wait for hdf version. 😦 11:54 whoa jilles congrats! 12:08