00:02 grats bouquet! on to 0.3.0! 00:05 congrats! 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 mitre of holiness", on T:35307 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 mitre of holiness", on T:35307 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:36288 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36289 00:32 !whereis k2 00:32 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [xnh]: (Hea Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 | [hdf-eu] k2 [xnh]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 | [hdf-au] k2 [xnh]: (Rog Orc Fem Cha) T:3 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:32 !whereis k2 00:32 K2: k2 is not playing. 00:32 xNetHack updated (all servers) 00:32 ^ version 0.3.0 00:33 thanks K2 00:33 my pleasure 00:33 sorry took a bit of time 00:34 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:48 <@luxidream> aosdict: that recent ascension dumplog prints the inventory 5 times 00:48 <@luxidream> xnethack bug? 00:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 01:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2214 points, T:3241, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 01:12 !lastgame 01:12 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/xnethack/dumplog/1532054967.xnh.txt | [hdf-eu] No last game recorded | [hdf-au] No last game recorded 01:13 inventory listed extra times not with my dumplog 01:15 <@luxidream> K2: its all under “contents of the bag of holding” 01:15 <@luxidream> What happens if you die with a container 01:16 no idea 01:16 also, bouquet's game was v0.2.0 01:16 mine was 0.3.0 01:16 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:24 [hdf-us] [un] mkarrasch (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided gremlins locally on T:7011 01:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:42 <@IceBox> grats boquet! 01:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:44 -!- stenno is now known as Guest70037 01:49 -!- Guest70037 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3340 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3891 02:26 w 02:26 whoops 02:26 slipped on the enter key 02:30 a fortune cookie is made of animal products? 02:33 Eating a fortune cookie breaks illiteracy unless you are blind, and they are vegetarian but not vegan. 02:37 ah. I guess the dough contains milk/egg? 02:38 but you can refuse to read the fortune after eating the cookie, right? 02:40 in SLASH'EM you can, in vanilla 3.4.3 you can't, not sure if they changed it for 3.6.x 02:40 well I guess some variants allow you to set "illiterate from birth" or something like that, and then you automatically won't read the fortune 02:45 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 03:26 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:32 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:38 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- stenno is now known as Guest17027 03:46 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- Guest17027 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:52 -!- tacco| has quit [] 04:09 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- Menche has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:12 -!- Menche_ has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- Menche_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:23 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 04:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:46 -!- stenno is now known as Guest6799 05:51 -!- Guest6799 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:18 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:53 <@Tone> I don't think there's an option to not read fortune cookies in 36x 06:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:11 @luxidream I haven't touched any dumplog code, so this is worth looking at with regular 3.6.1... 07:14 Actually, this is probably related to curses interface somehow since I know bouquet plays with that 07:19 !ping 07:19 Tangles_: Pong! 07:21 !who 07:21 Tangles_: [hdf-us] picaresquieu [un] mkarrasch [un] hothraxxa [4k] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 07:21 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 07:21 !setmintc 2000 07:21 Tangles: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for tangles set to 2000 07:25 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:88486 07:31 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- stenno is now known as Guest95104 07:51 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:52 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 07:52 -!- Guest95104 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:59 -!- aosdict is now known as aosdictj 07:59 !setmintc 0 07:59 aosdictj: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for aosdictj set to 0 07:59 -!- aosdictj is now known as aosdict 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] aosdictj (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 16 points, T:97, killed by a newt 08:00 !lastgame aosdictj 08:01 aosdict: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aosdictj/nh361/dumplog/1532087984.nh361.txt 08:01 hmmmmm 08:01 so much for that theory 08:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 7 points, T:35, killed by a sewer rat 08:02 !lastgame aosdictj 08:02 aosdict: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aosdictj/xnethack/dumplog/1532088127.xnh.txt 08:03 K2: ^ is forbidden? 08:04 never mind it works now 08:04 Well, anyway, curses inventory + items in a container isn't enough to reproduce that weird multi-inventory output 08:05 but I suspect it still has something to do with curses somehow 08:09 Tangles: may be worth checking this out, it's probably another sortloot problem 08:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:09 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 08:10 <@Tone> hmm I've been playing with curses, I wonder if any of my dumplogs have done that 08:11 Tfw hunting for mind flayers, to eat one for Int+, and somehow the liches are multiplying 08:12 I can't be the only one who thinks "teleport to the upstair to heal" is a cheap and boring monster behavior 08:23 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 08:43 aosdict sometimes dumplog file permissions are not set correctly (dgamelaunch thing). the server runs a script every one minute to correct that 09:33 What does it mean when the wiki page lists X monster as "a lord to its kind"? 09:39 !lastgame 09:39 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aosdictj/xnethack/dumplog/1532088127.xnh.txt | [hdf-eu] No last game recorded | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1532092545.dnh.txt 09:42 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 14753 points, T:1046, killed by a Mr. Skibbereen, the shopkeeper 09:42 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 09:44 <@luxidream> picaresquieu: it gets +1 to multishot, and can generate with better equipment 09:45 -!- Guest55067 is now known as lynn 09:45 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 09:45 -!- lynn has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 09:45 -!- lynn has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- stenno is now known as Guest46851 09:50 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 26124 points, T:1149, killed by a Mr. Sperc, the shopkeeper's wand 09:53 -!- Guest46851 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:56 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 25389 points, T:1295, killed by a hobbit 10:09 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:19 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:22 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23 Beholder feature request: a plain !lastgame doesn't give any games for a server if the last game ended over an hour ago 10:24 why? 10:24 that would be very misleading 10:25 it would make ppl think there wasn't *any* lastgame 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:959 10:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 2917 points, T:1019, killed by a priest of Chih Sung-tzu 10:35 <@rikersan> I thought I'd have a turn to get on the scroll 10:39 <@Dracunos> I kept whistling my jabberwock away from the chameleon corpse but he still managed to eat it! 10:39 <@rikersan> what'd he become? 10:39 <@rikersan> also, standing on it often works 10:39 <@Dracunos> Became a titan at least 10:39 <@rikersan> oh that's pretty good 10:39 <@rikersan> @?titan 10:39 titan (H) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 70 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: -3 | Attacks: 2d8 weapon physical, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: 9 | Flags: omnivore, flies, infravisible 10:40 <@Dracunos> Speed 18? Is that with haste? 10:40 <@luxidream> base 10:40 <@Dracunos> That's pretty good, and he heals himself 10:41 <@luxidream> !who 10:41 @luxidream: [hdf-us] arnibald [nh343] IceBox [nh361] | [hdf-eu] jt [sp] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:41 <@Dracunos> Do monsters have mana points? 10:41 <@rikersan> not really 10:41 <@rikersan> they just keep casting on a cooldown iirc 10:41 <@rikersan> (unless it's fiqhack) 10:45 <@Dracunos> That's cool.. When it's your pet, at least :p 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 1175 points, T:920, killed by a small aklys 10:46 <@Dracunos> I can't believe I'm about to start geh without finding a single ?rc 10:46 @rikersan that means that effectively they have much better pw regen than even the finest wizards 10:46 <@rikersan> ye 10:47 <@luxidream> unless you’re in an nh4 variant they don’t use offensive spells though 10:47 <@rikersan> as pets 10:48 <@Dracunos> Oh they only fixed dragon breath and stuff in 6? 10:49 <@luxidream> yeah, your pet archon won’t use touch of death in 3.6, I’m pretty sure 10:50 <@rikersan> RIP 10:50 <@Dracunos> As long as he can kill the annoying moat eels, that's all I really need a pet for at this point 10:50 <@rikersan> how come fountains always give me moccasins when I want wishes 10:50 <@rikersan> and then nothign when I want moccasins 10:51 oh I was wondering whether they'd give you wishes then 10:51 <@Dracunos> When you get moccasins.. Make moccasin-aid 10:51 <@rikersan> no 10:51 <@rikersan> sadlt 10:51 <@rikersan> I mean I was hoping as well but i'd be a lot happier if they did 10:51 <@Dracunos> What does freezing a water creature's tile do? 10:52 <@Dracunos> Does it just deal damage? 10:52 <@luxidream> Prevents it from dragging you into the water 10:52 <@IceBox> stops the drowning attack too i think 10:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 1296 points, T:1112, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik, the shopkeeper 10:54 <@rikersan> damnit he was almost dead 10:54 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 10:55 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 10:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:08 @rikersan I guess the tradeoff is that unlike the player they can't cast spell after spell after spell from a large Pw reserve 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37052 11:15 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:10069 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10081 11:23 Wtf 11:24 Why won't my uncursed +0 silver arrows stack 11:24 There's a pile of 10 and a pile of 8 and they won't merge no matter what I do 11:25 <@rikersan> all idnetical? 11:25 Yeah 11:25 They're ID'd, of course 11:26 <@luxidream> !tell ais523 is there any reason why numpad players don't get control+move as a go shortcut but vikeys does 11:26 Will do, @luxidream! 11:26 <@luxidream> !tell ais523 in NH4 11:26 Will do, @luxidream! 11:27 <@luxidream> seems a little discriminatory if you ask me :p 11:29 <@luxidream> oh, it's also true in vanilla 11:30 <@luxidream> numpad really fets the short end of the stick 11:32 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:32 <@IceBox> is there a chance for a random egg to be a footrice egg and kill you? 11:32 <@luxidream> yes 11:32 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 11:32 <@rikersan> probably 11:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:32 <@luxidream> happened to me a few times before 11:39 <@Dracunos> Yeah, when I find eggs I just throw them at a wall :p 11:39 <@luxidream> !tell ais523 never mind this is also not in vanilla, but would you consider this as a feature? I can try to learn vikeys but I wouldn't like to be disadvantaged by my preferred control scheme 11:39 Will do, @luxidream! 11:40 <@luxidream> !tell ais523 it also isn't really fair that capital letter movement, the fastest form of movement, is a vikeys exclusive 11:40 Will do, @luxidream! 11:41 <@Tone> What does ctrl and shift movement do @luxidream? 11:42 <@rikersan> shift = move that direction a lot 11:42 <@luxidream> control+move = G 11:43 <@luxidream> shift + move = moves more than G, does a lot of turns 11:43 <@luxidream> I don't like how I can't do either of these shortcuts because of my control scheme 11:44 shift+move goes in a direction until you can't go any further or you're interrupted or you pass a closed door (I'd like to disable that last) 11:46 I resisted vi keys for a long time but now that I've put the effort into learning them i think it's worth it 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] VIKEYS (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21808 points, T:610, killed by a couatl of Tyr, while praying 11:48 It's like a workflow thing 11:48 Sources of tedium in nethack: polypiling, altar camping, and moving your right hand between the home keys and the numpad 11:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:49 -!- stenno is now known as Guest49079 11:50 (also taking off the GoP every time you want to cast a spell, or to recover health, if you're playing an elf in un) 11:50 picaresquieu: one way to eliminate a source of tedium is to use vikeys so you don't need the numpad 11:50 <@luxidream> how do you position your hands? do you have to move off the home row to cover hjkl with each finger? 11:50 That's what I'm saying raisse 11:50 oh right, I wasn't reading far enough up 11:53 How do you meet a couatl of Tyr on T:610? 11:53 <@rikersan> converting altars 11:53 Ah right 11:53 <@luxidream> prayed to commit suicide 11:53 <@rikersan> ah 11:53 <@rikersan> that too 11:53 <@rikersan> that's why it would say "of Tyr" not just a couatl 11:54 -!- Guest49079 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:54 RNG is not smiling on me 11:54 I'm past T:90k, having done plenty of polypiling, and have yet to find a cloak of MR 11:55 <@luxidream> any wishes left? 11:55 Nope 11:56 I got one single wish out of the Castle chest (playing Un, where wishes are seriously nerfed) 11:56 I used it for that much-needed helm of brilliance 11:56 Great, more gremlins 11:56 God 11:56 <@luxidream> why'd you need a helm of brilliance more than MR 11:57 <@luxidream> there are gain int rings in un, right? 11:57 My Int was at 14 11:57 <@rikersan> as what? wiz? 11:57 I didn't get any rings of gain int until very recently 11:57 Ranger 11:57 <@rikersan> you shouldn't need htat much spells 11:57 So i needed the HoB for polypiling, since wands of polymorph have been in short supply too 11:58 I'm probably not being patient enough 11:58 <@Dracunos> The hag of bolding 11:58 <@luxidream> magic dragon scale mail? 11:58 That's what I'm using 11:59 <@luxidream> then do you still need the MR cloak 11:59 But i want to use reflective or chromatic (includes reflection) so that i can free up my amulet slot 11:59 <@luxidream> well, you certainly have a lot of patience 12:00 @luxidream without waiting on ais I can explain a bit why numpad is "disadvantaged". short explanation: because it's a limitation of the keyboard and that nethack can only consume a single char at a time without modifier keys 12:00 It's a pain switching between reflection and flying, and it'd be just my luck to run into a player monster with the Vorpal Blade on Astral 12:00 <@rikersan> chrmatic doens't give MR? 12:00 with vikeys, all moves are letters. that gives you three options: x, X, ^X 12:00 Nope 12:01 <@rikersan> huh 12:01 with numpad, shift+number = punctuation. ctrl+number doesn't exist as a char (but ctrl+letter does). 12:01 vikeys, you just stay in 'normal typing position', whatever that is for you. and you type movement and inventory commands 12:01 Chromatic gives fire, cold, poison, acid, stoning, disintegration, reflection... just not MR 12:02 nethack, particularly across SSH, can't determine whether you're hitting shift-numpad7 12:02 er, holding shift while hitting numpad7 12:02 In a pinch i have the Longbow of Diana for Reflection, but I'd rather be slicing shit up with +8 Stormbringer or +7 Fire Brand 12:02 and distinguish it from whatever char sequence shift-numpad7 normally generates 12:02 <@luxidream> so it's a technical issue? makes sense then 12:04 also, numpad was, in the early days, sort of an afterthought to the designers of Rogue and other early roguelikes 12:04 (if they existed at all. not sure.) 12:04 <@luxidream> what if pressing g or G, instead of making the next move into a go command 12:05 <@luxidream> toggled whether or not pressing the movement commands would make you go or not 12:05 well you usually only want to go one instance at a time, and then take some more steps 12:06 at least, I do 12:07 I'm tempted to waste a scroll of geno on these gremlins 12:07 <@rikersan> worth it 12:07 <@rikersan> if you've already done L at least 12:08 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided gremlins dungeon wide on T:90723 12:08 <@luxidream> I'd like to at least have the option to go multiple times 12:08 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 12:08 <@luxidream> because vikeys can do it much more simply. there's definitely a ctrl+? combination that isn't taken 12:09 Well, in un the blessed geno only wipes out one monster type instead of a class 12:09 So i can't do L, i have to do demilich/arch-lich/master lich separately 12:09 And i happen to have enough scrolls in reserve, thanks to polypiling 12:10 <@rikersan> ah 12:10 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:90723 12:10 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:90724 12:11 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 <@luxidream> I suppose it's a minor problem though 12:11 <@luxidream> most speedrunners use vikeys anyway 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:39580 12:11 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 12:11 I think I'll spare the demiliches 12:11 <@rikersan> ok 12:12 the purple L are the real nasties anyway 12:13 On my previous game i only geno'd arch-liches, and on the ascension run at that 12:13 Somehow i still got caught up in an archon summon swarm on Fire 12:15 <@luxidream> that's just fire 12:15 <@luxidream> it happens 12:16 I was taming the archons too 12:16 To no avail 12:16 I had like 8 pet archons meet gruesome fates 12:17 <@rikersan> you should really just sprint fire tbh 12:17 <@rikersan> it's the easiest plane imo 12:17 <@luxidream> it's un, there's no portal detection outside of crystal balls 12:17 Of course there is 12:17 Detect unseen, at least 12:17 <@luxidream> oh, I forgot about that 12:17 <@luxidream> still 12:17 Does confused gold detection not work? 12:18 <@luxidream> no it doesn't 12:18 Bummer 12:18 <@luxidream> does sam have a crystal ball? 12:18 What about wearing the AoY? 12:18 <@luxidream> that still works, but it sucks like in vanilla 12:18 <@luxidream> no buff 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:12505 12:19 <@Dracunos> Bye bye L, yet again 12:19 Imagine hauling a crystal ball to the planes and then using up all your charging and magic markers 12:19 <@Dracunos> Maybe I'll never meet a lich above demi 12:21 <@luxidream> @Dracunos don't speak too soon... 12:21 <@Dracunos> I'm genociding them every game, for my whole nethack career 12:22 <@luxidream> purple L can appear at castle 12:22 <@Dracunos> They wouldn't dare show their face 12:22 <@luxidream> also chameleons 12:22 <@luxidream> and polytraps 12:22 <@luxidream> you will see one 12:22 <@luxidream> it's a question of when 12:23 <@Dracunos> Have faith in my lich repellant 12:25 YANI: earplugs or earmuffs, for voluntary deafness 12:25 <@luxidream> implemented in splicehack 12:25 Nice 12:25 <@luxidream> unfortunately i think they're rare af because I never saw one 12:26 I mean it's not common that one would really need them 12:26 <@luxidream> honestly the nethack PC should just learn to close his eyes and put his hands over his ears 12:27 The Nazgul has a confusing scream attack in un but idk if there's anything else like that, across variants 12:29 stenno is very annoyed by the fact that purple L can appear at castle 12:30 because they are supposed to be gehennom only 12:31 hm, the valley is technically gehennom but the castle isn't 12:31 What's purple L? 12:32 MAster and arch lichen. 12:32 master liches and arch-liches 12:32 arch lichen is purple F :-) 12:32 <@luxidream> @le? arch-ilchen 12:32 arch-ilchen ~2~ arch-lichen (F) | Lvl: 107 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 1 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 100 | Generates: special | AC: -78 | Attacks: 9d5 cast spell, 9d5 touch Pestilence, 9d5 touch physical, 9d5 touch Famine, 9d5 touch Death, 9d5 touch disenchant | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, amphibious, breathless, mindless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, vegan 12:32 The plural of lich is lichen, confusing but I don't make the rules. :-) 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13623 12:33 Pinkbeast: by 17th century rules of english, yes 12:33 which is around the time the word lich went out of fashion... so hey 12:33 aosdict: I did work my way through Pepys over the last few years, by a curious coincidence 12:33 Pepys? 12:34 EPI: lichyard. Like a graveyard, but contains a lich on every square. 12:34 that's really E! 12:34 (because lichyard is a real word :D) 12:34 What does it actually mean? 12:34 cemetery, usually by a church 12:34 lich = dead body 12:35 Dutch lijk, German Leiche 12:35 <@luxidream> well, I can understand why stenno is annoyed they can show up at castle 12:35 similarly, lich-gate is also a still-clinging-on word 12:35 <@luxidream> they can just show up and end your speedrun 12:36 aosdict: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Pepys#The_diary 12:40 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14240 12:50 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 12:50 "A wave of psychic energy pours over you! It feels quite soothing." 12:51 What does the second part there mean 12:51 <@luxidream> pet mindflayer 12:51 I wonder how that happened 12:51 <@luxidream> magic trap? 12:51 poly trap? 12:51 shapechanger pet? 12:52 I haven't had any pets for a long time 12:52 Too much trouble when carrying Stormy around 12:52 I've been looking for a mindflayer to eat 12:52 Now i guess this one's off limits 12:52 Unless i can get something to kill it 12:55 This incubus death-dropped a key 12:55 The key to my heart 12:55 Alright, I'll quit spamming the channel now 12:55 !who 12:55 PavelB: [hdf-us] metzfan [slex] hypnotist [nh361] IceBox [nh361] picaresquieu [un] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:55 !whereis picaresquieu 12:55 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55 PavelB: [hdf-us] picaresquieu [un]: (Ranger elven Fem chaotic) T:91389 Gehennom level: 37 12:56 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- stenno is now known as Guest25782 13:02 -!- Guest25782 has quit [Changing host] 13:02 -!- Guest25782 has joined #hardfought 13:02 -!- Guest25782 is now known as stenno 13:03 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 13:11 picaresquieu: the scream attack is originally from spork. 13:12 doesn't it stun in spork 13:12 it's insufferable 13:12 IIRC yes but it's not like you meet many Nazgul 13:13 yeah, it got toned down. in spork it works across the whole level IIRC 13:14 I don't remember that but I only fought about two 13:17 @IceBox since there's no spectator mode in nh3 can you hit control+o for me? 13:17 <@IceBox> on mac, so ctrl keys are super weird 13:18 <@IceBox> that's what i use to bring up dungeon map though 13:18 does #overview work 13:18 <@IceBox> if that's what you're looking for 13:19 <@IceBox> yep 13:24 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:1540 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 475 points, T:1543, killed by a bolt of fire 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 282 points, T:1216, killed by a sewer rat 13:42 <@IceBox> @luxidream nymph stole it and then i hit a level port trap 13:42 <@IceBox> nymphs possibly dissappear permanently at some point right? 13:42 <@luxidream> it should still be there 13:42 No. 13:42 <@luxidream> unless it also stepped on the trap 13:42 <@luxidream> then it might be a pain 13:42 No to disappear permanently, that is. Few monsters simply softly and silently vanish away. 13:43 <@IceBox> shit, dead 😦 13:43 <@IceBox> nymph stole my gloves and i hit a cockatrice 13:43 <@IceBox> they're really getting me these days 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 79981 points, T:19022, petrified by a chickatrice 13:43 <@IceBox> playin too fast 😃 13:43 The other reason monks should just use a weapon 13:44 Nurses can just vanish, anything else? 13:44 <@IceBox> yeah, agreed 13:44 <@luxidream> mail demons 13:44 <@IceBox> wasn't sure if nymphs eventually do 13:45 <@IceBox> ah i see you answered above 13:45 <@IceBox> nurses and mail demons then 😃 13:47 It'd be cool to configure mail demons to work with my actual email account but it sounds like way too much work 13:48 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 <@luxidream> oh, I forgot genies 13:49 <@luxidream> those also vanish 13:50 Urrr. I see what you mean, but a genie that vanishes never existed 13:51 Can you use scrolls of mail as polyfodder? 13:51 PavelB: Not since about Hack 1.0.3 13:52 Aww 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] DeoxysSpeed (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15555 points, T:1068, killed by a guard, while sleeping 13:52 !setmintc 4000 13:52 Luxidream: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for luxidream set to 4000 13:53 I've heard legends about someone who got through the Plane of Air without levitation by getting all of freenode to send him mail 13:53 how does that even work 13:53 and then throwing the mail for recoil 13:53 First time I heard that one was before freenode, but yeah 13:53 XD 13:54 throwing gold won't work? 13:54 It's funnier if you do it with mail 13:54 rumflump: You'd have to have gold. 13:54 I'm sure he was carrying around junk 13:54 but 13:54 friendship power! 13:55 Junk> when I get to Air I don't have much junk, only stuff I wanted for Earth 13:55 That could be a conduct 13:55 Never fly or levitate 13:57 Luxidream: I was there for that! 13:57 it was awesome 13:58 is that a pretty slow method of travel? do the airmentals prove to be a greater hazard? 13:58 How long ago was it? Maybe we can find the ttyrec 13:58 rumflump: The real question is why flinging a gold piece (1/20 aum) gets you just as far as, say, a corpse (1200 aum) 13:59 it's fast, but you're helpless at the end of the movement 13:59 <@Dracunos> Relativity 13:59 aosdict: Your arm imparts a set amount of momentum 14:00 Not set 14:00 There's an upper limit 14:00 It's not possible to throw a coin with the same momentum as, say, a brick. 14:00 Feel free to try 14:00 (Not anywhere near a window though) 14:00 PavelB: Thank you for a serious answer to an obviously unserious comment. 14:01 You're welcome 14:01 That's what I'm here for 14:01 why can't you just take off your cloak and use it to fan yourself across 14:02 also aosdict: now that I think about it I think you were the one who told me about it lol 14:02 At that point you might as well flap your arms 14:02 Get engulfed repeatedly, wait 14:03 Would it be possible to clear the game entirely without levitation/flight? Hmmmmmmm 14:03 yes 14:04 fireproof water walking boots for everything that isn't air 14:04 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2390 14:04 That's a secondhand account from May of this year 14:04 *shrug* 14:04 I forgot those exist ._. 14:04 "maybe the real amulet of yendor was the friends we made along the way" 14:04 picaresquieu: And oddly there I didn't remember hearing it long ago. I wonder if I did or I didn't and it's just the power of suggestion. 14:05 > diabetes-inducing Power of Friendship (tm) story 14:06 reminds me of ADOM's potion of uselessness 14:06 !rng pub spod 14:06 Pinkbeast: pub 14:06 its only use is in fact the same 14:06 however you get an artifact for figuring this out 14:07 DCSS's scroll of uselessness was recently patched to be totally useless not almost totally useless to avoid Mr Boring But Optimal using it 14:07 What did it do before path 14:07 *patch 14:08 It occasionally could summon butterflies instead of producing various flavour messages. 14:08 Yes, it's all very heartwarming, right up until someone like Jeff Bezos comes along to exploit it 14:08 Butterflies can get in the way of ranged attacks and pursuers. 14:08 ,_, 14:08 So, accumulate a huge stack, stand in front of some door where you expect a large number of adversaries and maybe to have to retreat, read them all... 14:11 picaresquieu: Why Jeff Bezos of all people 14:12 I dunno, i had in mind the special relationship between Amazon and the USPS 14:12 Pick your own venal billionaire 14:13 But he's saved the postal service if anything, no matter what a certain chief executive says 14:13 Every package I've recieved from Amazon in recent memory has been FedEx 14:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:13 Fedex and UPS themselves contract with USPS though, taking advantage of their guarantee to deliver anywhere 14:14 True, but I'm not "anywhere", I live near Amazon HQ :P 14:14 Reminiscent of the woes of the Royal Mail, where it is expected 1) universal service at flat price 2) to be competed with and 3) to turn a profit. Pick two. 14:14 Oh, dear 14:15 Anyway i think the NetHack mail daemon service is safe from capitalist roaders for now 14:15 Nothing shows up in `/var/spool/mail` other than system messages anymore 14:15 Most systems aren't configured to actually collect email 14:16 So the mail daemon almost never delivers actual mail anymore 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2161 points, T:3578, killed by a rothe 14:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:19 when I ssh into stuff and it tells me "you have mail" I'm like OH REALLY NOW 14:19 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25 !tell AntiGulp I have an angelic wizard (neutral) set in my rc cfg so it picks that combo everytime, yet each new game that alignment changes between the three types. is that on purpose? 14:25 Will do, K2! 14:25 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 14:26 Anyway RNG picked "pub" so I'm off, see you all later 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3653 14:42 <@Dracunos> Man, again no silver sabers anywhere 14:42 <@Dracunos> I did find frost brand though.. I could mess with that instead of excalibur this game 14:43 <@Dracunos> Destroy all my fh potions :p 14:43 <@Dracunos> Drops* 14:43 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:44 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:45 <@Dracunos> I already did excalibur twice.. I could try mjollnir too 14:45 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 14:52 K2: Huh, that’s really weird. I never touched any of the rcfile code for class preferences. 14:52 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-07-20 14:25 EDT: I have an angelic wizard (neutral) set in my rc cfg so it picks that combo everytime, yet each new game that alignment changes between the three types. is that on purpose? 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh4] fuck me (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 49363 points, T:4257, killed by a housecat 14:58 ^ wish granted? 14:59 pinkbeast and anyone else interested in the crossing of air with scrolls of mail: the incident occurred on april 11 2017, the player was mischief, the ttyrec is https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/ttyrec/mischief/2017-04-11.20:53:16.ttyrec.bz2 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13679 points, T:6766, killed by a flesh golem, while fainted from lack of food 15:00 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 15:02 <[Demo]> hi 15:02 Hello [Demo], Welcome to #hardfought 15:03 <[Demo]> b - an uncursed time fluxed +0 silver power armor (being worn) (on) nice 15:05 NDNH? 15:05 <[Demo]> yeah 15:05 So, what does "time fluxed" mean, anyway? 15:05 <[Demo]> damaged 15:06 <[Demo]> needs to be repaired before proper AC boost can be received 15:09 Is 256-bit color standard on modern terminals 15:09 yes 15:10 <[Demo]> i have no idea if my flamethrower is overpowered or too weak 15:10 <[Demo]> it uses zap_over_floor code to do a 2d2 file explosion every time the fire ray moves 15:11 <[Demo]> fire explosion 15:14 file explosions hurt 15:15 <[Demo]> dnh has mirror explosions which do indeed hurt and those are pretty close to file explosions 15:15 Is that like when you unpack an archive and then suddenly your desktop has 50 gazzilion random files on it 15:16 rars within rars 15:16 Back when I had an Ubuntu system, I had a very strange bug where when I tried to extract a zip or targz from the GUI interface it would A) Flatten the entire directory structure B) Dump every file into the parent directory of the archive 15:16 I would always forget about that 15:17 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 15:19 <[Demo]> lol either way you mean file what i am said about mirror explosions still makes sense 15:19 <[Demo]> because mirror can mean more than one thing also that is neat 15:21 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: AntiGulp] 15:22 2d2 is pretty weak for ana gear 15:24 <[Demo]> but the explosions stack 15:24 <[Demo]> anything not next to you that you hit with it will be hit with 3 of them unless it is ad the end 15:24 <[Demo]> hmm 15:25 6d2 is still really weak 15:25 A wand of striking would put out more damage I think 15:26 <[Demo]> uhh lemme show off sala gear starting 15:26 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/JagIcJY.png 15:27 <[Demo]> flamethrower might be an offhand weapon 15:27 6d2 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EsCmdvNH/6d2 15:27 <[Demo]> yeah thats shit 15:28 <[Demo]> ill double it 15:28 <[Demo]> wait it also does the heat rays damage i think 15:28 Mind that most fire explosions are like 6d6, aren't they? 15:29 <[Demo]> that would be so strong 15:29 <[Demo]> to start with 15:29 6d6 is 21 expected 15:29 Could make each explosions 2d6 15:29 20 charges isn't that much 15:30 <[Demo]> i might be being too conservative with this shit hmm 15:30 Can the bullet fabber even generate grenades? 15:30 <[Demo]> yes 15:31 <[Demo]> in ndnh 15:31 Ah 15:31 <[Demo]> also nade launcher now gets multishot with skill 15:32 <[Demo]> also flamethrower gets multishot too 15:32 Idea for the flamethrower: the central ray does d6, as with each explosion 15:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:33 <[Demo]> central ray should do 0 dmg, good idea 15:33 <[Demo]> because its not good when monsters die twice 15:33 Mm, right 15:33 That does cause issues 15:33 <[Demo]> yes was thinking about where to fix it 15:33 <[Demo]> and instead good idea, just avoid it 15:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] HALP (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 74000 points, T:10558, killed by a bone devil 15:37 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 15:38 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 15:39 something funny about the idea of a flamethrower having multishot 15:41 <[Demo]> it just spews more flames per shot i guess 15:41 Dual-barrel flame thrower? 15:45 aosdict: ... yes, I play xnh with the curses interface. I tried a blessed remove curse yesterday with it enabled and it uncursed all my cursed items successfully. 15:46 issue before was spotty un-cursing. In vanilla 3.6.2 a full inventory identify didn't successfully label things after it completed. I haven't tested that and, as you obviously know, xnh doesn't do full inventory ID. 15:47 does ctrl+numpad ev2n produce unique terminal escape sequences 15:47 @luxidream 15:48 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 15:48 ssh -t user@example.com screen -UDr 15:48 wtf was that 15:49 h@x0rd! 15:49 stupid phone 16:02 What does `ssh -t` even do 16:02 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 16:04 Force pseudo-terminal allocation. This can be used to execute arbitrary screen-based programs on a remote machine, which can be very useful, 16:04 e.g. when implementing menu services. Multiple -t options force tty allocation, even if ssh has no local tty. 16:05 I had an empty terminal open and was curious 16:08 !rng C# F# 16:08 PavelB: F# 16:10 bouquet: the "bug" was in the dumplog 16:10 not in gameplay 16:13 FIQ: bot is down 16:13 it says "unknown command control+up" 16:14 so yes 16:16 oh, I can rebind these myself in NH4 16:16 excellent 16:17 looks like I won't be using vikeys any time soon 16:17 When did rld die 16:17 !tell ais523 forget everything I said 16:17 Will do, Luxidream! 16:18 !tell ais523 I got it 16:18 Will do, Luxidream! 16:18 PavelB: no idea 16:18 11:45:22 AM ⇐ +rld quit (~BrogueBot@unaffiliated/olscumpy/bot/broguebot) Remote host closed the connection 16:19 (PST, so around 1.5 hours ago) 16:19 <[Demo]> hmm having big issues double killing monsters with flamethrower 16:21 <[Demo]> oh man someone somewhere is up to no good 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41553 16:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 16:31 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:32 !who 16:32 PavelB: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh4] arnibald [nh343] middling [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 16:51 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] SonicValhog (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 62618 points, T:7366, killed by a shark 17:09 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 17:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 17:37 <[Demo]> hmm how the hell am i supposed to balance clockwork's knuckle dusters? 17:37 <[Demo]> barehanded combat sucks so much 17:44 -!- rumflump has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] middling (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11393 18:00 <[Demo]> hmm i think my ana changes are coming to an end 18:00 <[Demo]> not sure what now 18:11 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 381 points, T:1554, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 18:14 "What do you want to zap? [hEMP or ?*]" 18:15 Guess I'd need a vapouriser to manage that 18:15 <[Demo]> ndnh has that just saying 18:17 1 charge left in my last wand of digging, using it to trap a bunch of cockatrices from a nest I accidentally disturbed... 18:17 I didn't want to just kill them all, it's nice to have a ready supply of corpses on-hand 18:18 <[Demo]> made to order 18:18 but I stepped on a damn squeaky board... 18:18 so, even if one occasionally drops into the hole, it'll re-appear on the level below 18:19 and now that I have a corpse already, I'm going to jump down the hole and try to stone a titan 2 levels below 18:20 <[Demo]> bag it dont die 18:20 don't wield footrice while jumping in holes 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] MalesPrower (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 90106 points, T:23104, killed by brainlessness (with the Amulet) 18:26 <[Demo]> sad 18:27 wasted like 30 min on the force 18:27 <[Demo]> the force is not ok i have no idea how it is still considereded acceptable even in 3.6.1 18:28 Luxidream: You should play xnh instead, it doesn't have the force :3 18:29 holy shit you're right 18:29 died at 1h 31 18:30 probably wouldn't have beaten my last game, so it's okay 18:30 <[Demo]> speedy and fast 18:31 aosdict: when is autoexplore coming to xnh 18:31 <[Demo]> man i hate this. adding a new tool that needs to be able to have more than 127 charges and its just gonna be annoying 18:32 What would need over 127 charges 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] middling (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:12416 18:32 <[Demo]> a device that uses more than one charge at once 18:32 <[Demo]> and can actually use like 100 at once 18:32 Yeah, that's quite a lot 18:33 <[Demo]> autowinder for ana clk 18:34 <[Demo]> actually way lazier idea 18:34 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 18:34 <[Demo]> isnt oil made of old corpses? 18:35 depends on type of oil 18:35 certain oils can be derived from plants 18:36 <[Demo]> ah but in dnh some corpses are plants 18:36 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:36 <[Demo]> im thinking time travel and corpses can definitely interact in a way that feasibly creates oil 18:37 <[Demo]> what would the name of this weird device that timifies corpses into oil be called and what would it look like? 18:38 hmm 18:38 that would be a question for Calvin and Hobbes 18:38 takes a shitload of plants to make just 1 barrel of oil 18:38 Grasshopper o/ 18:39 K2 hiho! 18:39 weeeee 18:39 early morning 18:39 rain 18:39 [Demo]: Relevant: https://what-if.xkcd.com/101/ 18:39 always rain... wet season settling in 18:40 <[Demo]> what if i call it ... a fossilizer! 18:40 i just brushed enough hair off both my dogs to make a few sweaters 18:41 :O doggos! 18:42 !tell Mandevil when you have some free time can we get a 'first to ascend' for SpliceHack on the NHS? thanks 18:42 Will do, K2! 18:42 NHS? 18:42 <[Demo]> nethack scoreboard 18:42 nethack scoreboard 18:43 !sb 18:43 K2: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard (HDF) or https://scoreboard.xd.cm (ALL) 18:43 <[Demo]> something i am mistrusting of 18:43 <[Demo]> for no good reason 18:43 rofl 18:44 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: *poof*] 18:44 <[Demo]> if i had to guess what i mistrust about it it would be the motives surrounding its existence? idk something just feels weird 18:47 K2 seasons change, dogs shed, dogs go into shed 18:47 ;) 18:47 hfe on scoreboard.xd.cm is hdf-eu, right? 18:48 yes 18:49 Can't tell if hdf is the second most popular server after nao or if it's just the only one with all the variants 18:49 K2, are bones files meant to be shared among the servers? 18:49 probably yes to both PavelB 18:49 Grasshopper yes 18:50 I'm asking because I don't get bones on hdf-au 18:50 and when I played on hdf-eu I got a lot of raisse bones 18:50 hmm 18:50 will look into it 18:50 on au it is pretty much just me playing 361, and I rarely leave bones-eligible deaths 18:51 I used to get a ton of elenmirie bones on hdf-us but now I play xnh 18:51 lot of things to like about xnh 18:52 about 80% of the changes I guess 18:52 What do you not like about xnh? 18:53 I guess the recent monster glyph rearangement is somewhat controversial 18:53 of course I am being very subjective 18:54 I don't like the changes to how identify scrolls work; and I don't like the complete removal of the identify spell 18:54 xnh 0.3.0 is out now 18:54 I don't like auto-BUC when you drop your boh on an altar 18:55 Why not? 18:55 It just saves some time BUC-checking your items one at a time 18:55 I like to know what is "main gear" and what is "loot" 18:55 so it actually makes me waste more time trying to figure that out 18:55 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 18:56 ...huh 18:56 not sure I quite understand but ok 18:56 if something is not BUC'd then I automatically assume it is loot and BUC/stash it 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Ang Mal Cha), 445 points, T:850, killed by a psionic bolt 18:57 heh 18:57 easy to remove from boh, drop on altar, stash in box 18:57 wasnt ready for that 18:57 K2 ouch 18:57 MR does not protect against that fyi 18:57 good to know 18:57 i suppose reflection would... maybe 18:58 since it bounced off the wall behind me and hit me again 18:58 I imagine getting MR *or* reflection by turn 850 would be somewhat difficult 18:58 * K2 was playing a wizard 18:58 MR turn 1 18:58 oh yeah 18:58 :P 18:59 <[Demo]> ok fossilizer is a dumb idea 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4786 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2435 points, T:5108, killed by an invisible gnome lord 19:10 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Ang Mal Cha), 225 points, T:921, killed by a water moccasin 19:10 Ouch 19:11 !lastgame K2 19:11 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1532127881.splice.txt 19:11 Fountain quaffing? Really? :P 19:13 Grasshopper: bones file syncing is working for hdf-au 19:14 but if they get used on the other two before a player on AU server does, they're removed 19:14 in other words, once a bones file is used, its removed from the other two servers 19:15 Why's that? 19:15 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:15 because no one should be able to potentially get the same bones three separate times 19:16 Most people don't play on multiple hdf servers, though. 19:16 I don't think it would really affect anyone, and even if it did, I don't see how it would be a bad thing. 19:17 <[Demo]> they have knowledge coming in that they shouldnt 19:17 rumflump: bridge bot is down 19:18 I play on every hdf server 19:18 but... why? 19:18 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 19:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 19:18 hi rld 19:19 nice to see you 19:19 <@Tone> Thank you 19:19 PavelB think it through why once a bones file is used, its removed across all three servers 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36055 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36057 19:20 PavelB: I play semi seriously on hdf-us, and more testing or throwaway games on hdf-eu/au 19:21 !gamesby tonelive 19:21 I don't even remember if beholder does that 19:21 Seems not 19:21 !asc tonelive 19:21 greqrg: [hdf-us] tonelive has ascended 2 times in 2 games (100.00%): nh361:2 (100.00%) | [hdf-au] tonelive has not ascended in 118 games. 19:22 Seems to have ignored my eu games 19:24 !asc toneLive 19:24 greqrg: [hdf-us] toneLive has ascended 2 times in 2 games (100.00%): nh361:2 (100.00%) | [hdf-au] toneLive has not ascended in 118 games. 19:24 Weird 19:24 <@luxidream> !asc luxidream 19:24 @luxidream: [hdf-us] luxidream has ascended 113 times in 1280 games (8.83%): nh361:5 (11.11%), nh4:32 (18.50%), dyn:54 (38.03%), un:2 (1.75%), spl:1 (20.00%), nh343:1 (3.70%), fh:17 (15.74%), xnh:1 (10.00%) 19:25 <@luxidream> doesn’t even show au or eu 19:25 You do have games on both, I take it? 19:27 <@luxidream> Yeah 19:27 hmm 19:28 @luxidream you've ascended on eu or au server? 19:28 !asc K2 19:28 PavelB: [hdf-us] K2 has ascended 40 times in 1713 games (2.34%): sp:3 (0.88%), nh361:4 (6.35%), nh4:3 (6.52%), dyn:1 (7.14%), un:6 (3.11%), 4k:1 (2.08%), nh343:1 (1.20%), fh:1 (5.26%), xnh:9 (9.68%), gh:11 (1.89%) 19:28 toneLive has ascended on eu 19:30 <@luxidream> no, I haven’t 19:30 <@luxidream> want me to try? 19:30 sure 19:30 You've got two hours :P 19:30 !asc tonelive 19:30 K2: [hdf-us] tonelive has ascended 2 times in 2 games (100.00%): nh361:2 (100.00%) | [hdf-eu] tonelive has ascended 1 times in 403 games (0.25%): nh343:1 (0.62%) | [hdf-au] tonelive has not ascended in 118 games. 19:31 K2 thanks... but I'll be convinced once I find some bones that I know weren't generated from hdf-au 19:31 \o/ 19:31 Grasshopper :) 19:31 and lately I haven't found any at all 19:31 had to restart bot on eu server 19:31 <@luxidream> !asc luxidream 19:31 @luxidream: [hdf-us] luxidream has ascended 113 times in 1280 games (8.83%): nh361:5 (11.11%), nh4:32 (18.50%), dyn:54 (38.03%), un:2 (1.75%), spl:1 (20.00%), nh343:1 (3.70%), fh:17 (15.74%), xnh:1 (10.00%) | [hdf-eu] luxidream has not ascended in 236 games. 19:31 <@luxidream> There we go 19:31 Have you played a game on au lux? 19:32 <@luxidream> don’t remember, I guess not 19:33 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:33 <@luxidream> now I do 19:33 Your asc rates are pretty good even after those speed run attempts 19:34 -!- picaresquieu has joined #hardfought 19:35 !asc Tariru 19:35 PavelB: [hdf-us] Tariru has ascended 1 times in 1 games (100.00%): slex:1 (100.00%) | [hdf-eu] Tariru has ascended 14 times in 15 games (93.33%): sp:1 (100.00%), dnh:1 (100.00%), nh4:1 (100.00%), dyn:1 (100.00%), un:1 (100.00%), spl:1 (100.00%), 4k:1 (100.00%), slex:3 (100.00%), nh343:1 (100.00%), fh:1 (100.00%), xnh:1 (100.00%), gh:1 (100.00%) 19:36 <@luxidream> haha 19:36 How is it 14 times in 15 games if for every variant it reports 100% 19:36 A few of those might even qualify as speed runs 19:37 PavelB The loss was 1.3 19:37 Ah 19:37 Which I suppose isn't tracked? 19:37 <@luxidream> stenno said that tariru had a better time than him 19:37 <@luxidream> at one point 19:37 He consistently ascends vanilla under 3 hours 19:38 <@luxidream> 1:59 is his best, 3.4.3 19:38 That slex game might count as a speed run to. 10 days or so? :P 19:38 too* 19:39 <@luxidream> the vast majority of his times are over 3 hours though 19:39 hmm maybe I'm wrong about that then 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] lel (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 119 points, T:671, killed by a fox 19:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] middling (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:12647 19:46 -!- stenno is now known as Guest48527 19:47 <@rikersan> tfw you spend 20 minutes removing an iron ball 19:47 <@rikersan> and then remember as a nymph you can literally just #monster 19:47 <@Tone> :stupefy: 19:48 psionic bolts can be super-annoying 19:48 <@rikersan> next run I quaff from a sink and it's lev and I die 19:48 <@rikersan> oh 19:48 <@rikersan> *ok 19:48 I ran into a mind flayer telepath and I think I only survived by repeatedly jumping 19:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm] 19:49 <@luxidream> aren't psionics literally unresistable in splice 19:49 <@luxidream> aside from tinfoil 19:49 I think there's an anti-psi helmet 19:49 what splicehack needs is a mandrake as in dnethack to make deafness actually important 19:50 <@luxidream> yeah, the wand doesn't seem very balanced 19:50 <@luxidream> why? earmuffs are impossible to find 19:50 -!- Guest48527 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:51 <@Tone> @d?mandrake 19:51 mandrake ({) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 0 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 0d0 suicide explode mandrake-shriek | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, nopoly, vegan 19:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 19:51 <@Tone> Siren would be a cool enemy for a hearing/deafness effect 19:52 <@luxidream> nazguls scream in spork, which constantly stuns you as you're trying to navigate gehennom 19:53 <@luxidream> since there's no way to deafen yourself there it's a very fun mechanic 19:54 <[Demo]> ubernazguls 20:00 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 20:05 -!- picaresquieu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14 -!- Schrubber has joined #hardfought 20:17 -!- Schrubber1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] SonicValhog (Luxidream) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 63464 points, T:8232, killed by an ettin mummy 20:22 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed historic diluted fixed magic harp named amy farrah fowler", on T:50955 20:31 -!- Luxidream has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20:44 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] middling (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:14667 20:58 so i have 110 spellbooks not counting at least a couple dozen more i left in various chests 20:59 oh wait i have a stash with about 30 more in it 21:06 <[Demo]> why 21:07 <@rikersan> what the shit 21:07 <[Demo]> too much prayer? 21:07 <@rikersan> there's only like 30 spells 21:07 <@rikersan> isn't there? 21:07 <@Dracunos> haha 21:08 <@rikersan> 40 in vanilla alrigth 21:08 <@rikersan> ok, so hothraxxa has probably around 3 of each spellbook? 21:09 pretty much. i think i have only one of drain life 21:09 i have something like 10 or 11 magic missile 21:15 hm. i've killed yeenoghu and baalzebub and beholder doesn't announce them, but my recent wish got announced. does fourk not implement full livelogging? 21:16 <@rikersan> it might not, beholder might be spastic as well 21:26 i just killed the iconical gwtwod 21:26 g - an uncursed wand of death (0:8) 21:27 thanks gnome 21:27 <[Demo]> good kill 21:28 i have fod but only at 24% 21:28 i don't have that much pw anyway 21:34 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 21:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:38 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:39 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 21:46 @luxidream I don't particularly care either way about autoexplore. I'd merge it if someone else did the implementing, but I'm not really inclined to spend my time on it. 21:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- stenno is now known as Guest899 21:50 sargeant dropped e - a blessed +6 silver spear named Vladsbane 21:50 er 21:50 sergeant 21:50 nice one 21:50 yeah, monks can actually get basic in spear 21:50 i am getting close to vlad's 21:51 -!- Guest899 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:51 right now there's this huge cluster of aligned priests ove there but i can ignore them if i want 21:52 they have a bazillion potions 21:57 <@luxidream> aosdict: I wonder how hard it would be to steal from un. It’s the only non-NH4 variant that has it I think 21:59 it's more code than you think though 21:59 a whole mini AI 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 676 points, T:1089, homunculus 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 88 points, T:113, imp 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 80 points, T:64, hobgoblin 22:02 a dumb AI, though 22:06 it's leveraging the autotravel code, so it's conceptually not so bad but the autotravel code is spaghetti code par excellence to start with, the autoexplore bits didn't improve the maintanability of the code 22:08 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Ang Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4764 22:11 <[Demo]> Oh so the devteam has discussed adding it 22:11 <[Demo]> or uve considered for un? 22:13 The aligned priest picks up an athame named Athame of Yendor. 22:13 hmm 22:16 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 22:16 autoexploring is in unnethack, even before nh4 or nh4-variant had it 22:16 Grassy: I think bones are very rare on hdf because of the release cycle. 22:17 of course because it came originally from acehack and nh4 didn't exist yet :) 22:17 <@luxidream> I was asking if it could be in xnh 22:17 <@luxidream> seems like it is smop though 22:21 AFAIK the travel code hasn't changed significantly in 3.6, so it shouldn't be too hard. but if there are any issues, debugging it can be brain damaging 22:24 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Ang Mal Neu), 6461 points, T:5649, killed by a mumak 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 3872 points, T:3955, killer bee 22:25 184 potions and not a single gain level 22:27 !whereis hothraxxa 22:27 Tangles: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [4k]: (Mon Hum Fem Cha) T:52244 Gehennom level: 33 22:28 i just wiped out a huge room full of skeletons, shades, vampires, and aligned priests. every square in the room had 2-4 potions 22:28 wow 22:29 so now i have about 150 spellbooks and over 200 potions 22:29 it's nuts 22:34 <[Demo]> nice collection 22:34 <[Demo]> why so many things 22:35 share 22:35 sharing is caring 22:35 bhaak: what you say is only reaffirming my current position of not wanting to do it myself 22:35 :-) 22:35 I don't blame you 22:38 demo: because fourk gave them to me, along with magic chests 22:38 <[Demo]> ah fourk 22:39 <[Demo]> I don't like auto explore but for worse reasons 22:41 i don't know if this is fourk but i'm xl 20, grand master martial arts, +4 gauntlets of dexterity, luck maxed, ring of +1 increase accuracy, and wearing gdsm i can only hit about 2 of 3 times 22:41 same when wielding +6 firebrand 22:42 wearing armor? 22:42 oh 22:43 yeah take off the armor 22:43 well yeah 22:43 in vanilla its a -20 penalty to hit 22:43 i have, but every time i gain a level i try again 22:43 i would imagine fourk is same if not worse 22:43 it must be worse. in vanilla i'd be well over the hump 22:44 -!- tacco| has quit [] 22:44 i only made the gdsm because i thought i'd be past the hump 22:46 bwahahaha q - a cursed rustproof -12 athame named Athame of Yendor 22:48 heh 22:54 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Wiz Ang Mal Cha), 3138 points, T:3175, killed by a giant ant 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 118 points, T:870, killed by a carnivorous bag 23:10 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18 hothraxxa: shouldn't that... not happen? 23:18 isn't it supposed to be only for highly _positively_ enchanted stuff? 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] ptaff (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2637 23:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:48 -!- stenno is now known as Guest63369 23:52 -!- Guest63369 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] winny (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36812 23:54 go winny!