00:07 <rld> <@lapis> summon monsters in general is honestly a terrible effect, at least in large quantities
00:07 <rld> <@lapis> it's one thing for a soldier to summon some backup, it's another thing entirely for a soldier to read a scroll and suddenly fill up the entire room with soldier ants and arcadian avengers
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00:08 <[Demo][srn]1> I think that is generating a bunch of sgroups
00:09 <[Demo][srn]1> Oh wait yeah
00:09 <[Demo][srn]1> might make cm not respect groups
00:09 <[Demo][srn]1> Maybe only if read by monsters it doesn't respect that
00:10 <rld> <@lapis> alternate solution, would it be possible to make any form of monster summoning require a few turns to use, and be interruptible?
00:10 <[Demo][srn]1> don't wanna nerf cm altar summing any more than dnh already has because altar scumming is nerfed
00:10 <[Demo][srn]1> that wouldn't help much I don't think
00:13 <[Demo][srn]1> I think the issue i missed earlier was the group size issue
00:13 <[Demo][srn]1> especially on ana quest
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00:42 <oh6> !tell Chris_ANG 4x "2d4 <MISSING DECRIPTION, THIS IS A BUG> - physical;
00:42 <Beholder> Will do, oh6!
00:43 <oh6> !tell Chris_ANG ... while far-looking Kary
00:43 <Beholder> Will do, oh6!
00:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:56448
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00:49 <rld> <@lapis> !tell Chris_ANG on that note, Axus has the missing description bug on his gaze attack
00:49 <Beholder> Will do, @lapis!
00:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:86819
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00:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:56951
01:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:57116
01:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 2276122 points, T:86843, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/picaresquieu/un531/dumplog/1531171948.un531.txt.html
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01:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:57692
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:57791
01:29 <rld> <@IceBox> grats picaresquieu!
01:33 <oh6> congrats also!
01:41 <rld> <@luxidream> YASI: Tylenol. Prevents headaches from psi bolt for a short time. Consume with water
01:45 <bug_sniper> YASI: kidney disease if you eat too much tylenol
01:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] robotHivemind (Con Vam Mal Cha), 596 points, T:892, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food
01:53 <bug_sniper> !who
01:53 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361]
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02:34 <Mandevil> .
02:34 <Beholder> Mandevil: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-07-14 14:01 EDT: okay it should work now: em.slashem.me/xlogfiles/dnhslex is the xlogfile :)
02:51 <Mandevil> !tell LarienTelrunya Some dumplogs (notably those of dnhslex) are returned as application/octet-stream. Can you tell Elronnd to get his stuff together?
02:51 <Beholder> Will do, Mandevil!
02:52 <Mandevil> !tell LarienTelrunya Also, what's correct capitalization of 'dnhslex'?
02:52 <Beholder> Will do, Mandevil!
03:23 <Elronnd> Mandevil: I've been using DNHSlex.  What's wrong with application/octet-stream?
03:30 <Mandevil> Elronnd: The browser gives you download prompt instead of displaying the dumplog.
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03:40 <Grasshopper> Shouldn't it be dnhex? Oh nevermind
03:52 <Elronnd> but why does it matter, for a script?
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04:18 <Grasshopper> awww shit, I just used my only cockatrice egg on Orcus but he had a potion of acid...
04:47 <rld> <@Dracunos> In 3.4, how do you name scrolls without picking them up and risking scare monster? >:(
04:52 <rld> <@Dracunos> I guess I can name off the discovery list, at least in nh4
05:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Dracunos (dracunos) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 30960 points, T:2978, killed by a bolt of lightning
06:24 <Mandevil> @Dracunos You can name items on the floor in 3.6.1
06:24 <rld> <@Dracunos> I know
06:27 <Mandevil> @Dracunos So what's the problem?
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06:34 <rld> <@Dracunos> I was looking for the solution on 3.4, like I said.. but I found a solution
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08:42 <aosdict> [Demo][srn]1: [backscroll] Yeah, you could add a makemon flag to force it to not create a group of mons. Not sure how popular that would be; it would mean you can't get lucky and generate a ton of hill orcs to sacrifice.
08:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] metzfan (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Nightshade, Farmer Maggot's cousin, on T:510
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09:37 <[Demo][srn]1> aosdict not if I did it only in muse.c
09:38 <aosdict> [Demo][srn]1: if there's a create_critters call involved anywhere, I think you would need to add this new flag.
09:39 <aosdict> because create_critters -> makemon with no relevant flags for blocking groups -> groups generate
09:39 <aosdict> in vanilla at least
09:39 <[Demo][srn]1> ah right yeah create critters yeha
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2740 points, T:2253, killed by a poisonous corpse
09:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by a falling rock
10:18 <rld> <@rikersan> @lapis a bunch of monsters do, like cthulhu and dagon
10:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4240 points, T:3247, killed by a soldier ant
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2858
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf mummy, on T:4696
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10:47 <AntiGulp> aosdict: Can you read my mind or something? The day I thought about programming in giving enchanted weapons names, you added it to xnethack. This is weird
10:47 <Beholder> AntiGulp: Messages from K2 and aosdict have been forwarded to you privately.
10:48 <aosdict> AntiGulp: evidently there are some bugs...
10:49 <AntiGulp> Hm how do I read the private messages beholder is talking about
10:50 <aosdict> they should have been sent already
10:50 <aosdict> what client are you using
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10:50 <aosdict> PavelB: remind me what exactly happened with that? Your starting +0 dagger as a Valk received a weapon name?
10:50 <AntiGulp> Colloquy
10:50 <AntiGulp> oh wait, found them! They just went in a weird place
10:50 <aosdict> dunno then, but there should be something labeled Beholder containing your messages
10:54 <aosdict> PavelB: I think I see the weirdness
10:57 <[Demo][srn]1> i think that that is tacky
10:57 <Tangles_> heh
10:58 <[Demo][srn]1> :(
10:58 <Tangles_> whoops
10:58 <aosdict> yarrr, sent to Davy Jones' locker
10:58 <PavelB> aosdict: Yep, that's it.
10:58 <[Demo][srn]1> were you under too long?
10:59 <Tangles_> yeah I picked something up underwater and got burdened
10:59 <[Demo][srn]1> ah
10:59 <aosdict> dnh YANI: replace drowning-related death messages with "went to Davy Jones' locker" if you're a pirate
10:59 <[Demo][srn]1> should have some sort of auto resurface
10:59 <[Demo][srn]1> if you are physically capable
10:59 <Tangles_> yeah it does, if you're not burdened :/
10:59 <[Demo][srn]1> ah neat
11:00 <aosdict> PavelB: It appears to call mksobj with TRUE for init. Which will roll a random enchantment/BUC for weapons, and possibly choose an oname based on that. Then somewhere later it must get set specifically.
11:01 <aosdict> Not sure why it calls it with TRUE...
11:01 <aosdict> I guess for tools and things where you need to init the object with charges?
11:01 <PavelB> Huh
11:01 <PavelB> Makes sense
11:02 <[Demo][srn]1> yes that is the case
11:03 <[Demo][srn]1> if you dont then stuff generates with spe 0
11:03 <aosdict> so, the proper fix is a hacky workaround. Sigh.
11:03 <aosdict> PavelB: did you notice this with any objects other than those in initial inventory?
11:04 <PavelB> No, I wasn't able to play much though.
11:05 <aosdict> ok it looks like the problem is localized to that, and possibly special levels (will check next)
11:05 <[Demo][srn]1> how does the player know the names of these items?
11:05 <[Demo][srn]1> when they just find them?
11:05 <[Demo][srn]1> like what???
11:05 <aosdict> it's probably written on the item
11:05 <aosdict> and we handwave illiteracy
11:07 <[Demo][srn]1> hmm
11:08 <rld> <@mtf> bot still down? are are we good to go atm?
11:08 <aosdict> bot is up
11:09 <rld> <@mtf> yay 😃
11:09 <rld> <@mtf> got pinged by tone yesterday that it was down, didn't hav etime to come fix 😦
11:09 <rld> <@mtf> today is the deadline for the crazy stuff in my life, I see the light at the end of the tunnel!
11:09 <[Demo][srn]1> nice
11:10 <[Demo][srn]1> light is good
11:10 <rld> <@Tone> @mtf shpingle happened to be around and restarted it
11:10 <rld> <@mtf> good man
11:11 <rld> <@mtf> if you see him again, tell him he has my thanks
11:11 <rld> <@Tone> will do
11:11 <rld> <@Tone> He is very elusive these days though 😄
11:11 <rld> <@mtf> I know the feeling
11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2143 points, T:3513, killed by a manes, while reading a book
11:13 <aosdict> PavelB: fixed (but not pushed)
11:18 <[Demo][srn]1> fun fact, dnh has at least 36 ronald reagan quotes in it
11:27 <stenno> stupid france
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1030
11:31 <[Demo][srn]1> oh world cup?
11:41 <hothraxxa> is that diving championship on again?
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11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4424 points, T:6623, killed while stuck in creature form
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11:56 <[Demo][srn]1> man im dumb
11:57 <[Demo][srn]1> thought i could somehow add a flamethrower that shot three beams out in the direction of whatever you are facing, all 3 lines up vertically or whatever  way it is you are facing
11:57 <[Demo][srn]1> didnt dawn on me that they would fire one after the other and look super dumb and weird
12:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3424 points, T:1910, killed by an orcish dagger
12:07 <stenno> today i learned that you face a direction in nethack
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 131 points, T:531, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph
12:09 <[Demo][srn]1> well what you zap you face a direction
12:10 <stenno> ah
12:16 <[Demo][srn]1> so now the new tactic is to do an advanced slashem tier thing
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12:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of picaresquieu, the former Trailblazer, on T:2931
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13:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2721 points, T:4702, killed by a watchman
13:00 <LarienTelrunya> !who
13:00 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from Mandevil at 2018-07-15 02:51 EDT: Some dumplogs (notably those of dnhslex) are returned as application/octet-stream. Can you tell Elronnd to get his stuff together?
13:00 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from Mandevil at 2018-07-15 02:52 EDT: Also, what's correct capitalization of 'dnhslex'?
13:00 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361]
13:00 <LarienTelrunya> !tell Mandevil the "official" capitalization is DNHslex
13:00 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
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13:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:58755
13:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5615
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14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a winged gargoyle, on T:8772
14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 8190 points, T:8773, quit
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) stole 13 zorkmids of merchandise from the pet store of Librazhd on T:11872
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) stole 10 zorkmids of merchandise from the used armor dealership of Artvin on T:11883
14:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:12288
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:840
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15:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 975 points, T:2034, killed by a giant bat
15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] X02Wyvern (Bin Red Fem Cha), 2283 points, T:1230, quit
15:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] X02Wyvern (Mon Red Mal Law), 1166 points, T:1149, quit
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15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] metzfan (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Aobe, on T:5555
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16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] X02Wyvern (Wiz Red Mal Cha) averted death, on T:2586
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17:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) stole 2211 zorkmids of merchandise from the general store of Aklavik on T:22010
17:16 <rld> <@IceBox> Senor Tangles/K2, if either of you are around and available to help me run recovery on my 361 game on hdf-us, i'm near my computer for the next few hours and i'd greatly appreciate it!
17:17 <rld> <@IceBox> how do you properly ping people in IRC? ! tell is the only thing i know
17:17 <rld> <@Tone> Most IRC users have their client set up to highlight a message if it contains their username
17:17 <Pinkbeast> Some clients let people see if their names were mentioned; some clients usefully save /msges forever
17:18 <rld> <@IceBox> cool well that should work then, cuz i dont wanna keep !tell-ing both of 'em 😃
17:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:60187
17:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 330 points, T:1384, killed by a large mimic
17:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] oh6 (Dra Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, killed by trying to drink lava
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17:51 <picaresquieu> I think i found a bug
17:53 <picaresquieu> I was doing Sokoban in UnNetHack and i zapped a boulder with a wand of teleportation... It didn't disappear, so i zapped it again, still didn't disappear, I moved at it and it was gone
17:53 <picaresquieu> So i went to the goal area and it had already filled one of the pits
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18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) became the Glory of Eequor, on T:60438
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18:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) stole 1275 zorkmids of merchandise from the liquor emporium of Swidnica on T:26256
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18:28 * K2 is home
18:28 <K2> hi
18:28 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
18:28 <Beholder> K2: Message from aosdict at 2018-07-13 18:25 EDT: dcb3099 introduced a savebreaking change that I didn't catch - there was never any patchlevel.h version change - any way to set up dgl versioning so that saves from before then don't crash?
18:28 <Beholder> K2: Message from the_real_icebox at 2018-07-14 15:43 EDT: if you get a moment the process for my game on hdf-us has gotten hung-up and thinks i'm still playing it. I'm assuming you'd know what to do?
18:30 <rld> <@IceBox> welcome back kizzle tizzle (K2)
18:30 <K2> hah
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 687 points, T:1871, choked on a hill orc corpse
18:31 <Tangles> @IceBox - I recovered your game yesterday. Did it not work?
18:31 <Tangles> 'morning K2!
18:31 <K2> o/
18:31 <rld> <@IceBox> it did not work. It seemed like something happened where it shot me right back to the menu screen
18:31 <rld> <@IceBox> then when i tried to load it again, same error
18:32 <Tangles> hrm ok.
18:32 <rld> <@IceBox> and for reference in case you can tell, the turn i left off was exactly one turn after a full inventory ID in the jewelry shop
18:32 <rld> <@IceBox> not the biggest deal if it cant be recovered, but i figure i'd give it time for one more shot if you guys are willing 😃
18:33 <Tangles> right... Are you running the curses windowport with perm_invent on, and do you have unpaid items?
18:33 <rld> <@IceBox> yep
18:33 <rld> <@IceBox> i snagged a buncha rings to get the ID on them
18:33 <rld> <@IceBox> you have to turn perm_invent off before reading blessed identify due to a bug
18:34 <rld> <@IceBox> so i toggle it, save and quit, and then restart (otherwise the inventory doesn't visually dissappear)
18:34 <rld> <@IceBox> and i think i did it too fast, which is why the game got in a weird state
18:35 <Tangles> ok... so there are some known issues with curses and 3.6.1 (these are specifically 3.6.1 issues and have been fixed in the 3.6.2-beta release), One of them is the full-ID issue, another is recovering from save with unpaid items.
18:37 <Tangles> K2: We need to decide whether to keep running 3.6.1 or go back to running a bleeding-edge dev release as we were before (or both I guess)
18:37 <rld> <@IceBox> oh snap really?
18:37 <rld> <@IceBox> that would make sense
18:37 <rld> <@IceBox> well the bug doesn't make sense, but it makes sense why my save is problematic
18:37 <K2> Tangles: i'm for bleeding edge
18:37 <rld> <@IceBox> if you need to just roll back some turns before i picked it up
18:38 <rld> <@IceBox> if you can* rather
18:38 <Tangles> Nah. If you turn off curses in your rc, the game should load fine.
18:38 <rld> <@IceBox> ah ok i'll try that
18:38 <Tangles> though we probably need to clean up from the crash first.
18:38 <Tangles> gimme a sec.
18:39 <Tangles> (you can reenable curses and save/restore when you no longer have unpaid items)
18:39 <rld> <@IceBox> yeah that didn't work yet
18:39 <rld> <@IceBox> darn curses, always such a tease
18:39 <rld> <@IceBox> i'm so close to being able to play without it
18:43 <Tangles> Yeah I said gimme a sed :P
18:43 <Tangles> sec
18:43 <Tangles> ok try that one
18:44 <rld> <@IceBox> tryin
18:45 <rld> <@IceBox> back in biz, thanks tangleroni pizza!!
18:45 <Tangles> lol no worries. Enjoy!
18:46 <rld> <@IceBox> if i ascend this game i'm dedicating it to you
18:46 <rld> <@IceBox> though i've certainly just jinxed it
18:49 <Tangles> well good luck :)
18:50 <hothraxxa> tangles/k2: do either of you have any advice concerning my fourk game? i'm getting Error: Trying to create new symbol at position: (79,21) and recovery doesn't fix it
18:50 <hothraxxa> it says i can continue but the game might be unstable. should i?
18:50 <hothraxxa> fiq is proabbaly the right person to answer this
18:51 <hothraxxa> well not counting jonadab of course
18:51 <Tangles> I think 79,21 is off the map. Yeah I'd ask jobadab, FIQ, or maybe ais523 if he's around.
18:52 <hothraxxa> it's a highly frustrating monk game so i've been waiting for jonadab or fiq
18:53 <hothraxxa> i reached medusa without finding a bunch of basics, such as levitation and (much worse for a monk) enchant armour
18:53 <Tangles> is the bad position related to performing the invocation?
18:53 <hothraxxa> xl12 and not a sign of gain level or anything like a wraith
18:54 <Tangles> oh it sounds like you're not there yey.
18:54 <Tangles> t
18:54 <hothraxxa> no no, not even close to that
18:54 <hothraxxa> i can't cross water yet. no form of levitation, no cold
18:55 <Pinkbeast> With the earth from Sokoban?
18:55 <hothraxxa> not sufficient
18:55 <hothraxxa> i could dig down and strand myself on the other side
18:56 <hothraxxa> at least it's fourk so downstairs won't be the castle
18:56 <Pinkbeast> I thought 16 boulders would do for any Medusa
18:56 <hothraxxa> if i had 16 boulders
18:56 <Pinkbeast> 2 scrolls of earth makes 16.
18:57 <hothraxxa> have you considered that they might be cursed?
18:57 <hothraxxa> and that i used one already?
18:57 <Pinkbeast> Pretty sure you'll have a holy water by now
18:57 <hothraxxa> and that i used one already?
18:57 <Pinkbeast> Not being telepathic I had no way of knowing that.
18:58 <hothraxxa> my dear pinkbeast: do you think i never considered such a thing? your obt svt, hothraxxa
18:58 <Pinkbeast> Well, also not being telepathic, I don't know what you considered.
19:00 <hothraxxa> yes, and i thanks you for the suggestion in case i hadn't; however, when i said "not sufficient" i'd have hoped you'd realize maybe i do have a clue about what i might try
19:00 <jilles> at least the 3.4.3 variants can also be traversed using jumping
19:01 <hothraxxa> anyway the game is in limbo until i get advice about whether it is worth proceeding, or maybe there could be a fix
19:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 118702 points, T:32550, killed by a rock troll, while sleeping
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19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) stole 150 zorkmids of merchandise from the general store of Sipaliwini on T:28997
19:13 <hothraxxa> beholder the snitch
19:22 * aosdict sends the kops after picaresquieu
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19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Swidnica on T:30376
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20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3527
20:22 <rld> <@lapis> Hothraxxa, I know it would be boring as sin, but you could altar camp and/or poly for a wand or spellbook of cold?
20:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1584 points, T:3536, killed by a rope golem
20:23 <rld> <@lapis> If you have an instrument you could strand yourself on the downside of her level and try to kill off the castle
20:23 <hothraxxa> no poly wand, no source of sacrifice fodder, otherwise i'd try it
20:23 <hothraxxa> i used up the only wand of create monster i've seen
20:23 <hothraxxa> it's been a really resource poor game so far
20:24 <hothraxxa> oh wait, i do have a gazillion spellbooks
20:24 <rld> <@lapis> You could try hunting down ludios?
20:25 <hothraxxa> yes i intend to give that a go actually, but i have really weak offense and defense both
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20:25 <hothraxxa> i'm grand master martial arts. it's the farthest i've ever gotten with a monk without accidentally hitting something with a pickaxe
20:26 <rumflump> paranoid_pickaxe = true
20:26 <hothraxxa> of course enchant weapon has been abundant
20:26 <hothraxxa> also i keep finding armour shops
20:26 <hothraxxa> is that really an option in something?
20:26 <rld> <@lapis> I think so
20:27 <rumflump> heh, i wish. it'd be in fiqhack if it's anywhere, but i don't think it's in there
20:27 <rld> <@lapis> Did you do the lower mines for the chance of a marker?
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20:27 <hothraxxa> yes, i have the luckstone
20:27 <hothraxxa> it was the orc version so i also have a figurine of a balrog
20:28 <hothraxxa> i have a marker 0:95
20:28 <hothraxxa> where's pinkbeast to tell me to write earth?
20:30 <rld> <@lapis> Have you identified enchant armor? Or have there been literally none
20:30 <hothraxxa> no, and yes
20:30 <rld> <@lapis> Hmm. Yeah that’s tricky then
20:30 <rld> <@lapis> Could always go up and start drinking out of fountains
20:31 <hothraxxa> hmmm. never been a drinker
20:33 <rld> <@lapis> If it were me I would probably try for ludios first, then I have an instrument dig for the castle
20:33 <rld> <@lapis> Fountains can be really annoying with bad luck
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20:46 <FIQ> rumflump: you know I adjusted bashmsg to notify when you use things you are unskilled with
20:46 <FIQ> possibly including pickaxes
20:47 <rumflump> sounds like i was exactly correct then ^_^
20:48 <hothraxxa> fiq! advise me on  this fourk error please
20:48 <rumflump> hide, don't run, from the error
20:48 <FIQ> hothraxxa: I can't with that alone
20:49 <FIQ> tell K2 to give jonadab the save
20:49 <hothraxxa> ok. i expected that we need jonadab for a fix, what i would like to know is whether it is advisable to continue
20:50 <rumflump> you can just create additional characters, in nh4etc
20:51 <rumflump> take a load off and be a hairy wizard while you wait
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21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 49993 points, T:7999, killed by a dwarf queen
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:34192
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22:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Ana Dro Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:27831
22:31 <rld> <@lapis> any good way to mass repair armor? in dnh
22:31 <rld> <@lapis> i don't think i have a shop with armorworks
22:31 <[Demo][srn]1> mass confused enchant armor lol
22:32 <[Demo][srn]1> polypile
22:32 <[Demo][srn]1> confused destroy armor removes dmg but doesn't proof
22:36 <rld> <@lapis> well good thing i realized i was completely wrong lol, i do actually have an armorworks shop
22:36 <rld> <@lapis> i think you have the destroy armor one backwards
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 33593 points, T:1179, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11921 points, T:320, killed by a fox
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Ana Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29589
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22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 86 points, T:117, gnome
22:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 182 points, T:200, orc
22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 21403 points, T:722, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt
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23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 23523 points, T:958, killed by a mind flayer
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5589 points, T:173, killed by a baby crocodile
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7502 points, T:203, killed by a jackal
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23:39 <rld> <@lapis> scale shields are made by wearing scales and reading confused enchant armor, right?
23:45 <[Demo][srn]1> that's true
23:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Sipaliwini on T:36466
23:48 <rumflump> 1: there are over 300 personal devices connected to my network (phones, laptops, rasbpi, minecraft servers, whatever)
23:48 <rumflump> 2: at least one of them is infected with a botnet and trying to DDoS our isp
23:48 <rumflump> 3: They Mad
23:49 <[Demo][srn]1> tcpdump that motherfucker
23:49 <[Demo][srn]1> should be pretty easy to see who is actively attacking the isp
23:52 <[Demo][srn]1> if u don't have an easy way to do it from the router do it from a pi that u replace the main router's wireless with and then plug into it
23:53 <[Demo][srn]1> lede makes that pretty easy to do
23:54 <rumflump> i do have lede! and luci. it's openwrt, in short
23:54 <[Demo][srn]1> yey
23:54 <[Demo][srn]1> so just tcpdump that motherfucker and see who is making all the noise
23:55 <[Demo][srn]1> and then beat the shit out of them
23:55 <rumflump> bandwidthd is running on a super old crapmachine, too. but i'm learning to use all this stuff the hard way (without a mentor, while shit regularly is hitting the fan)
23:55 <rumflump> is one reason that i didn't participate much in jnh
23:56 <[Demo][srn]1> why do u have so many hosts on ur network?
23:56 <[Demo][srn]1> who is the networks?
23:56 <rumflump> our workplace is also where we live
23:56 <[Demo][srn]1> what country?
23:57 <[Demo][srn]1> is Oregon a country cause that sounds like some oregeon shit to do
23:57 <rumflump> US
23:57 <rumflump> middle of nowhere virginia
23:57 <[Demo][srn]1> like mountains or bay?
23:58 <rumflump> mmmm, hills? small mountain?
23:58 <[Demo][srn]1> cause I don't think they have computers yet in the mountains
23:58 <[Demo][srn]1> I'm Southside richmond repping Southside til I die and we definitely have computers here
23:59 <rumflump> our internet is in the air. we share about 6-10 gigabits, i forget what that kinda thing is called. they have towers. we have antennaes
23:59 <[Demo][srn]1> that sounds god tier
23:59 <[Demo][srn]1> everything is a mess and you live at work and it's nuts that sounds fun and hectic
23:59 <[Demo][srn]1> like an enjoyable amount of chaos
23:59 <rumflump> if i flip the power strip in a room full of moldy melons, the antennae reset, but i can't log in to their webui