00:01 WHY? Why the fuck did my pet elvenking just walk onto that known poly trap? 00:02 @Icebox just 1 blessed potion of levitation is usually enough for both Planes of Air and Fire 00:03 <@IceBox> that's good to know. Currently i'm disorganized enough that i find myself going back and forth across castle/medusa VotD trapdoors that i need more permanent lev 00:03 <@IceBox> but if i ever shape up i'll make ring of lev less of a priority, haha 00:10 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 15128 points, T:8442, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food 03:11 -!- Mekkis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:31 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 glowing dragon scales", on T:1980 04:03 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:15 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6094 points, T:4415, killed by a white unicorn 04:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- stenno is now known as Guest62392 04:34 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:35 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 04:49 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5697 points, T:3382, killed by a gray unicorn 04:49 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:19 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:21 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 05:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:50 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:55 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:21 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:22 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:06 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Tou Hum Mal Cha), 1741 points, T:2544, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:36 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Tou Hum Mal Cha), 5809 points, T:4351, killed by a wand 08:03 -!- Guest62392 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 08:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:09 <@Tone> @IceBox Ranger or wizard are fun for non-melee roles. I also like monk which is still melee but plays differently. 08:09 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:37 ... aside from the unfortunate reality that once a monk gets a decent artifact weapon they should just wield it, at which point you're a combat wombat who can't wear armour without endless message spam 09:02 <[Demo][srn]1> Or you can just not use a weapon and suffer 09:02 One can do that with any class, if one likes suffering 09:02 <[Demo][srn]1> works best on monks 09:03 Au contraire - monks suffer least, thus not satisfying the desire for suffering 09:03 <[Demo][srn]1> there's a difference between suffering and furious wrath 09:04 <[Demo][srn]1> anyone else but a weaponless samurai is furious wrath 10:00 fuck man 10:06 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 8136 points, T:8969, killed by a leather golem, while fainted from lack of food 10:22 <[Demo][srn]1> stay strapped gnomes 10:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:35 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:35 -!- raisse is now known as Guest26870 10:35 -!- Guest26870 is now known as raisse 10:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:37 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the priestess of Thoth, on T:11776 10:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43753 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:11911 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43754 10:52 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 10:55 <@rikersan> @IceBox much belated, I menat copy the savefile and like email it to a computer 10:56 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:10 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 11:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45767 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:45770 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:45776 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45786 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46216 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46223 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46791 11:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47300 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47786 11:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:43934 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 greased ring of increase damage", on T:47954 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:47965 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47966 12:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:48420 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:48440 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:48468 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:48484 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 3209502 points, T:48509, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1530609963.nh361.txt 12:17 grats nooodle 12:17 !streak hypnotist 12:17 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist Max[nh361]: 6 (2018-05-21 - 2018-06-03). Current[nh361]: 5 (since 2018-06-18). 12:17 nooodle: [hdf-eu] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 12:17 nooodle: [hdf-au] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 12:17 ty stenno 12:17 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17 <@Tone> 'grats nooodle 😄 12:18 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:33 congratulations nooodle! Go Team Nymphets! ♥ 12:33 LarienTelrunya: Message from @rikersan at 2018-07-06 19:07 EDT: I've got Aegis working, should I try to make a PR for it or do you just want to me to send you file diffs 12:33 !tell rikersan well I see the pull request in Chris's repo, I can pull it from there :D 12:33 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 12:35 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18227 12:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 43684 points, T:4533, killed by an ettin zombie 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45106 12:46 !streak stenno 12:46 stenno: [hdf-us] No streaks for stenno on this server. 12:46 stenno: [hdf-eu] stenno Max[xnh]: 1 (2018-04-25 - 2018-05-27). Current[xnh]: 1 (since 2018-06-01). 12:46 stenno: [hdf-au] No streaks for stenno on this server. 12:47 remember back in the days when people made valk accounts 12:51 <@Tone> For streaks? 12:52 eh i think as a general fun account 12:52 to see how often they could win before dying 12:52 * raisse has a valk account! (but not for streaks, only because I want my valks to be called Hildegard and not Raisse) 12:52 (on nao, I don't think I've ever played a valk on hardfought) 12:52 * LarienTelrunya wants a samurai account because winning with that is much easier than winning a valk :P 12:52 <@Tone> I considered that many years ago 12:53 <@Tone> but I don't know if I could ascend the same role more than three times in a row without going crazy 12:53 I have a samurai account too (one on nao and one on hardfought) 12:53 and a tourist account on nao 12:53 but it's purely for naming purposes 12:53 raisse: wow, do you have accounts for the other roles too? 12:53 no, only those, all the others are Raisse 12:53 ah 12:54 dagger of integrity 13:03 <@rikersan> larien: kk cool 13:03 @rikersan: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-07-07 12:33 EDT: well I see the pull request in Chris's repo, I can pull it from there :D 13:03 <@rikersan> it's gone through like 5 revisions you may want the OP one fro dnhslex 13:04 <@rikersan> (the one where it doesn't have the MR check and just stones) 13:05 stones??? sounds OP 13:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:08 <@rikersan> yes 13:08 <@rikersan> it still does but now has a check 13:08 <@rikersan> check the PR out 13:10 eh, I'll look at it when I'm back in my office 13:10 but being able to instapetrify monsters sounds ultra OP, like, way more OP than even the stuff Chris has already put into the game 13:11 a mithril katana 13:11 not too bad 13:16 <[Demo][srn]1> well bad news 13:16 <[Demo][srn]1> i du -h'd my folder i am about to back up and it says Infinity 13:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:30 nice disk space 13:31 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 13:34 <[Demo][srn]1> oh yeah i guess that means i have an infinitely large hard drive 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 171 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47121 14:01 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:06 <[Demo][srn]1> how does archeolgist random item bury work code wise? 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47658 14:30 were people burying shopkeeper stuff to get it for free? or is it just an immersion / "you annoyed the shk" thing? 3.6.x charges you for it 14:30 rumflump: Message from @Pavel at 2018-04-24 10:49 EDT: Your IRC/Discord bridge copies people's usernames verbatim. If they contain _s, this causes the name to be rendered in itallics in Discord. Please fix. 14:31 ...that seems not worth fixing 14:32 grats @Tone @luxidream FIQ greqrg @IceBox et al ! sorry i wasn't able to help much this year 14:34 <@IceBox> as the highest contributing member your apology is humbly accepted 14:34 Hey, I splatted in the Sanctum in Sporkhack, that's a heroic failure :-) 14:35 last year I splatted in the sanctum in dnethack 14:35 Curiously after 15 wins in that other roguelike with Sigmund I have yet to splat in/after Zot 14:36 ... also that does double my number of deaths after the Castle in NetHack and friends :-) 14:37 <@luxidream> hey, flump is the founder of ootc 14:37 <@luxidream> show some respect 😃 14:38 department chair of recruitment, research, and procrastination... 14:38 i read the irc logs from 6/30 and 7/1, so i kinda know how things went 14:39 seems like tonelive's wizardry with dnethack abuse went underpraised ^_^ 14:39 i wonder if elf anachromenut is going to get any changes? 14:40 <@luxidream> should be banned tbh 14:41 <@luxidream> but we were missing a lot of people this year due to RL obligations which was a shame 14:41 <@luxidream> including you 14:42 fun fact: i am actually the (co)founder of team splat 14:42 heh, I'm the founder of the clan that has a different name each year :D 14:43 <@luxidream> stenno: why’d you decide to make another clan then? 14:43 its precursor was 'team not so bad at this' which actually won the first junethack 14:43 @luxidream personal problems with a few other people 14:43 you're one of those people who builds villages and then moves on while other people live in them :D 14:44 (none of which are currently playing anymore) 14:44 i would not have founded ootc if i'd been accepted into splat 14:44 i think this has proven to be more interesting for the tourneys though... 14:45 <@luxidream> clan megasplat for 2018? 14:45 <@luxidream> 2019* 14:45 oh the first junethack was initd's worst yasd ever 14:45 but we still got most points 14:45 init2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1026074034 points, killed by genocidal confusion 14:46 painted by xiella: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/216/d/7/initd_by_soli_deo_gloria-d45g90u.png 14:46 <@luxidream> oof 14:46 ouch 14:46 <@luxidream> flump: I joined ootc because they were the only clan that would take me 14:46 as the painting implies, he _wanted_ to read confused charging 14:47 <@luxidream> that’s still about a billion points 14:47 yeah he got us most points trophy anyway 14:49 What does confused Charging do? 14:49 <@luxidream> refills energy 14:49 <@luxidream> 100% 14:50 Ah 14:52 -!- rumflump has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53 nsbat was actually a crawl clan before it got created for junethack 2011 14:53 but i am pretty sure clan EIT is even older 14:54 <@luxidream> I was surprised that they reappeared for the final devnull 14:54 <@luxidream> and set up a scoreboard and stuff 14:55 well as you might remember the devnull scoreboard was a clusterfuck 14:55 clan eit elite scoreboard was muuuch more readable 14:56 about devnull in general.. sure, it was cool and prestigious and stuff, and the patches gave it a nice twist, but it was still just vanilla nethack 14:56 so, eh 14:57 it was a borderline nuisance to play 14:57 s/borderline// 14:57 <@luxidream> so the new November tournament will likely include variants? 14:57 i don't know anything about it 14:57 <@luxidream> I haven’t heard much about that other than it’s happening 14:57 but i would be surprised if it wasn't that way 14:57 same 14:58 maybe i should try to get involved in one way 14:58 or another 14:58 slex patched to include devnull challenges, because regular slex isn't hard enough? :P (or grunthack/sporkhack with the challenges :D) 15:00 <@luxidream> we want people to actually play though 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:23362 15:19 @luxidream wanna do some 3.6.1 speedrunning in a bit? 15:20 (football first) 15:20 so like, in an hour or so 15:24 <@luxidream> am actually not home right now 15:24 <@luxidream> and might not be for a bit 15:24 ah alright 15:24 mm aw 15:24 then i will do it on my own ^_^" 15:26 <@luxidream> I’ll watch on my phone, if you don’t mind? 15:26 sure, no problem 15:27 currently doing some warming-up 15:27 <@rikersan> @Tone I don't care if you review tariru's 3.6.1 ascension go review his (latest) slex ascension >:D 15:27 -!- rumflump has joined #hardfought 15:27 <@luxidream> !who 15:27 @luxidream: [hdf-us] krm26 [fh] Eleven [nh361] 15:27 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh361] Muad [un] 15:27 @luxidream: [hdf-au] No current players 15:31 well 15:31 lol 15:31 <@Tone> @rikersan I don't think I'm qualified for that haha 15:32 <@luxidream> nice lamp 15:32 <@lapis> if anyone want to do that i'll totally watch lol 15:32 nope 15:32 <@luxidream> gg 15:32 <@lapis> rip 15:32 lol 15:32 <@Tone> lmao 15:32 <@luxidream> just wasn’t meant to be 15:32 short break~ 15:32 i guess :P 15:33 rip rip 15:33 stupid poison shit 15:33 even got a pick axe 15:33 ah well a bit of football now, continuing in 15 minutes or so 15:33 <@luxidream> I usually have to kill a ton of peacefuls for one 15:34 !tell raisse one of the people i live with is named hildegard! she's a gardener, not a valk though. so i call her domain The Hildegarden 15:34 Will do, rumflump! 15:35 my grandma's name was Brunhilde 15:36 <@luxidream> stenno: I really want to watch castle because I think I’ve died there like ten times now 15:37 <@rikersan> when I read that I thought you meant the tv show 15:37 <@rikersan> "what, are you the dead body extra?" 15:38 yeah its really not easy 15:38 tonal, or conflict 15:39 unfortunately you don't wish for SoM anymore in 3.6.1 15:39 <@rikersan> why not? 15:39 because it only confers MR when wielded 15:40 in 3.4.3 it was when carried 15:40 so that was the OP artifact for most lawful 15:40 (law priest still wishes for it of course) 15:40 <@rikersan> huh 15:41 so you had slotless MR and slotless hungerless conflict 15:41 Rodney can also steal it in 3.6.x even if it's not your own quest artifact, so relying on it for MR is probably not a good idea 15:41 <@luxidream> Valk can’t get mace skill? 15:41 can - but you use exca of course 15:41 actually idk if they can 15:42 oh nope, no mace skill for valk 15:42 valk and barb have a bladed weapons thing goin on 15:43 <@luxidream> unrestrict it by crowning 15:43 uncrown it by constricting 15:43 crowning isn't really a feasable strat in speedrunning :P 15:44 that wouldn't really be worth it anyway 15:44 <@luxidream> That had a strikethrough on in discord 15:44 <@luxidream> not sure if irc can see that 15:44 nope :P 15:45 we have italic, bold and underline (and colors) 15:45 <@luxidream> for the record I was crowned in my dyna valk game 15:46 <@luxidream> but it was probably a huge waste of time 15:46 i still don't really understand what you did there lol 15:46 maybe i should watch the ttyrec 15:47 come to think of it, i tend to do the optional branches in unnethack 15:47 dragon caves and sheol 15:47 thats probably something you wouldn't do if you go for early bird 15:48 <@luxidream> I skipped dragon caves yeah 15:48 <@lapis> whats the point of sheol? the lighter pick? 15:48 <@luxidream> un/dyna also have autoexplore so it optimized my movement quite a bit especially later 15:48 guaranteed magic marker 15:49 and some nice looting 15:49 oh right 15:49 something i never used 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:47662 15:49 <@luxidream> It is extremely wasteful for nutrition and turncount 15:49 sheol has some chests with scrolls and potions in it 15:50 right but who cares in a realtime speedrun :P 15:51 <@luxidream> but I’m using it because I’m not very good at movement atm 15:51 <@luxidream> At least not as good as Adeon 15:51 _< 15:51 easy movement :P 15:51 <@luxidream> or anywhere close for that matter 15:51 <@luxidream> that’s after you have everything mapped though 15:52 fair enough 15:52 oh now i see 15:52 you dig down and then just autoexplore on your way up instead of magic mapping or the like 15:52 thats neat 15:52 <@luxidream> wait did I do that 15:52 how Pat Rankin is defending the 3.6 changes with 'not harder for unspoiled players' 15:53 never even occurred to me that autoexplore is useful in that regard 15:53 'you' as in, the player 15:54 bhaak: eh? 15:54 in RGRN 15:54 <@luxidream> ah, no, I didn’t 15:54 I think, autoexplore should be able to be more efficient than it is now 15:55 i always thought of it as a bit of a joke feature 15:55 you never played a mobile version? 15:55 <@luxidream> right now it explores every square of dark rooms 15:55 haha 15:55 bhaak: no lol 15:55 <@luxidream> Which isn’t necessary and will hit polytraps 15:56 <@luxidream> I ascended once on gurr’s Android port 15:56 well, it has to if you hit autoexplore in a dark room. I don't see how you could improve on that. 15:57 but you can see 8 tiles around you that don't necessarily have to be walked on 15:57 <@luxidream> It shouldn’t try to walk over every square, just make every square seen 15:58 how does autoexplore behave when you're blind, btw? 15:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:58 <@luxidream> It doesn’t work 15:59 figures 16:00 hm overtime in the match 16:00 so another 30-odd minutes 16:06 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 652 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47847 16:15 I was actually in belgium for bel-jap and bel-bra 16:15 raisse: Message from rumflump at 2018-07-07 15:34 EDT: one of the people i live with is named hildegard! she's a gardener, not a valk though. so i call her domain The Hildegarden 16:15 nice 16:15 belgium is my favorite 16:15 rumflump: that's beautiful! 16:15 stenno: yes, mine too 16:16 the bel-jap match was really good 16:16 I've been following the matches through the guardian liveblog, because I'm somewhat interested but spouse isn't interested at all 16:16 one of the best matches in the tournament imo 16:16 hehe fair 16:16 guardian liveblog is awesome though 16:16 I followed the whole women's euro cup with it 16:17 (which NL actually won!) 16:17 oh congrats 16:18 we had some of the matches in our town but none that I was really interested in 16:18 germany's women team was one of the best in the world but apparently we lost early 16:18 or I'd have rounded up my best friend (who is a real football fan) and tried to get tickets 16:18 against denmark in the quarterfinals 16:18 :o 16:18 quarter final is decent! 16:19 if you get that far, yes, then you're one of the best in the world 16:20 well we won the european championship 5 times in a row before that :P 16:20 and we got olympic gold in 2016 16:20 so i guess the expectations were a bit higher than quarterfinals ^_^" 16:21 yeah I can imagine 16:23 NL didn't even qualify for the world cup and I'm sort of glad of that, because now I can support my favourite countries without any feeling of guilt or obligation 16:23 i am a bit sad about it because germany vs. netherlands is _the_ match 16:23 that's true 16:23 i'd like to have seen them but ah well 16:23 maybe next time in the euro 16:25 hoping for belgium-england final now (and belgium winning) 16:26 if it comes to france-croatia or france-england I have no preference 16:26 i think belgium - croatia 16:26 but now that you say it.. 16:26 belgium - england would be really cool too 16:27 if I were a betting woman I'd bet 2-1 for belgium against england 16:27 sounds very plausible 16:28 looks like croatia is winning this one 16:28 9 minutes to go 16:28 yep, looks good 16:29 but both teams are exhausted so anything can still happen 16:29 I hate it when they have to resort to penalties 16:29 yeah same 16:29 oh wow 16:32 wow indeed 16:32 now we're surely going to have penalties unless someone manages to score another goal 16:33 Ha ha ha, oh wow! 16:33 😉 16:33 ha ha ha Oh wow 16:33 ha ha ha... no 16:34 <[Demo][srn]1> russia cheats 16:34 how can you cheat in soccer? 16:34 https://media.giphy.com/media/SdYnnxQ30OahG/giphy.gif 16:35 <[Demo][srn]1> idk its russia isnt that part of their culture or something 16:36 <[Demo][srn]1> its like treason or something to say otherwise here i think 16:37 ah well here we go 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:48286 16:39 *sigh* 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:48290 16:40 go croatia then 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:48379 16:42 i don't even want to watch it now 16:50 :-) 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 138 points, T:350, leprechaun 16:50 <[Demo][srn]1> i dont even know what country croatia is 16:50 he said while watching it anyway 16:50 <[Demo][srn]1> some eastern european 2nd world country 16:50 <[Demo][srn]1> thats all i know 16:50 no, not eastern europe 16:50 <[Demo][srn]1> well then 16:50 <[Demo][srn]1> i really dont know 16:50 they don't like to be told they are from eastern europe 16:51 ok penalty shooting is over 16:51 <[Demo][srn]1> uhh that looks like eastern europe to me 16:51 <[Demo][srn]1> its east of germany 16:51 <[Demo][srn]1> oh yeah its next to all those other shitty slavic countries where they are all angry at each other all the time 16:51 no, it's south of germany 16:51 <[Demo][srn]1> south east 16:52 [Demo][srn]1: you might want to read into the history of yugoslavia after ww2 16:52 more south than east :) 16:52 <[Demo][srn]1> i think i have a lot of croatian blood or something 16:52 stenno: tbf, "slavic countries where they are all angry at each other all the time" is a correct description 16:52 yeah 16:53 croatia is actually right next to italy 16:53 <[Demo][srn]1> isnt it kind of like the middle east but for angry lighter people and without oil? 16:53 er, that's slovenia 16:53 <[Demo][srn]1> (that part of europe) 16:53 it's in central europe next to czechia and austria 16:53 no, that's slovakia 16:54 it used tobe part of yugoslavia before it split up into its constituent countries 16:54 next to serbia 16:54 SE Europe 16:54 actually 'where everyone hates serbia and serbia hates everyone else' 16:54 it *is* next to italy in fact 16:54 oh, that's true, croatia and italy don't share a border. i thought the part with trieste was bordering at croatia 16:55 if you coun't water :) 16:55 they do share a border 16:55 <[Demo][srn]1> as an american we dont care about slavic zone history 16:55 but like a very small one 16:55 <[Demo][srn]1> cause they are far away and arent affecting us 16:55 where? 16:55 I do count water :-) 16:55 if you can easily get there by boat it's practically adjacent 16:55 hm ok 16:56 * raisse is too tired from travelling most of the day (came back from holiday) to think at all clearly 16:57 https://www.total-croatia-news.com/images/Vedran/untitled%20folder/Border_piran.jpg 16:57 from belgium? 16:58 stenno: yep 16:58 bouillon, then brussels (only 1 night and we took an earlier train home because the weather in brussels was horrible, hot and humid) 16:59 nice 17:00 i will go to dublin on vacation in a month-ish 17:00 i'd wanna see bruges just because of the movie 17:00 I'll go to dublin next year for worldcon 17:01 bruges is awesome 17:01 yeah it looks really great 17:01 you should really take a boat trip when you're in bruges 17:01 don't forget the sun lotion 17:02 a friend was there last weekend and she came back quite burned :-] 17:02 bruges or dublin? 17:03 any place in europe with the current weather I suppose 17:03 we needed the sun lotion in bouillon as well, and a hat 17:03 hah true 17:03 dublin 17:04 I forgot my hat when we went to the castle so I could stay on the highest tower only about 5 minutes 17:04 the view was amazing but I was melting 17:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48935 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48936 17:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 17:14 well lets try some more speedrunning but i am really tired now 17:14 but its more like warming-up etc 17:14 a good excuse to suck 17:20 lol claimed by slovenia waters 17:20 raisse: NetHack meet in Dublin? 17:21 sure! 17:21 I'll wear the T-shirt and the ridiculous hat again 17:21 This time I'll actually have played since 20mumble 17:21 did you meet already? 17:22 ... I must write to the organiser of the EVE meet too, because if it's not called "ISK Dublin" I'll be sore disappointed 17:22 raisse and I met many years ago, I was in Amsterdam for work 17:22 nice 17:22 also we met at worldcon in helsinki 17:23 I've met a lot of European NetHack players over the years, I think 17:23 well attie and i will be in dublin end of august so if you wanna make a con, do it then :P 17:23 <[Demo][srn]1> have u met any of the really good ones? 17:23 stenno: This is next year's Worldcon 17:23 oh gotcha 17:24 I'm not going to stay in dublin for all of august 2019 17:24 [Demo][srn]1: Back then it was just Marvin & I've never knowingly met Marvin 17:24 only worldcon and a day or two on each side of it 17:24 Dublin's vexingly expensive, I gather 17:25 thats true 17:25 <[Demo][srn]1> thank god nethack's codebase is such a mess 17:25 ... mind you probably cheaper than spending 48 hours in transit to Helsinki 17:25 <[Demo][srn]1> such that translating it to other languages is enough work that it doesn't seem to happen 17:25 there is a german translation and a japanese translation 17:25 I usually try to avoid flying but I did fly to helsinki because that was the only affordable option 17:26