00:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law), 699 points, T:2648, killed by a pony 00:01 <@lapis> two back to back sacrifice gifts, alrighty then 00:01 !lg bouquet 00:01 !lastgame bouquet 00:01 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nh361/dumplog/1529379994.nh361.txt 00:04 -!- oh6 has quit [] 00:05 [hdf-us] [fh] Akari (Silver2195) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 25892 points, T:1166, killed by a giant mimic 00:12 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:2771 00:16 <@luxidream> !who 00:16 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] Lymia [slex] dgoddard [nh343] ahrimen [fh] IceBox [nh361] bouquet [nh361] dizzylizzy [nh361] 00:16 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] No current players 00:16 @luxidream: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 00:18 @4k?medusa 00:18 Medusa (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 0d0 gaze petrification, 1d6 bite drain str | Alignment: -15 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravisible 00:22 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 35826 points, T:3005, killed by a soldier 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2357 00:25 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 00:26 Howdy Tangles 00:26 hey 00:26 Hello Tangles, Welcome to #hardfought 00:26 lol yes hi beholder 00:26 woah 00:27 my pet actually successfully stopped me from horribly dying for once 00:28 makes up for all the times they trip the rolling boulder trap while you're in the path :) 00:32 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 19105 points, T:4799, killed by a monster (giant mummy) 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:5752 00:35 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4146 00:49 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Get the Mitigations Software Companies Don't Want You to Know] 01:08 Nethack displacement rules are weird 01:08 You can't displace pets into walls, but you can displace them into doors or iron bars 01:18 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:13707 01:27 so... I've fallen down a shaft into a shop. I'm invisible and I have no mummy wrapping. I have a pick axe, but won't the shop keeper kill me if I dig? 01:27 only if you steal something 01:27 put all the items in non-adjacent squares, pay for any you hold, and you should be fine I think? 01:28 (items in adjacent squares risk falling through) 01:28 so clear a 1-unit square around my intended hole? 01:28 that's my understanding 01:28 I've never done it personally 01:28 oh well, here goes nothing... 01:30 that got me out, but "I feel like a common thief". Nothing was adjacent and fell through. Maybe just because I'm a knight. 01:32 "There is a -1 alignment penalty for digging down in a shop." <- wiki page on knight 01:32 you'll survive that :) 01:33 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:39 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 01:41 @le?lesbian beauty 01:41 lesbian beauty (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 11 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 kick physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, infravisible 01:41 oh woah 01:41 So the pet does have a good end stage 01:45 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 01:47 yasi for slex: werebeauty. Getting hit by her raises your chr 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8654 01:52 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:54 !tell ais523 i might have found a way to skip the 2k turn alignment limit in 3.4.3, will test when i am back home 01:54 Will do, stenno\ito! 01:55 !botsnack 01:55 :v 01:56 my own bones 01:56 Yay (?) 02:01 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:01 Lymia: how'd you get wallwalking? 02:01 implant 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9740 02:01 I'm 90% sure, at least 02:03 oh, that's a very nice implant then 02:03 If I can identify it to see if it's the no hands bonus or base effect, might have a chance of getting it instrinsically too? 02:03 Since it is an edible material 02:03 yes, if it's the base effect you can get it as an intrinsic... I think 02:03 not sure what the odds are though 02:04 50%, apparently 02:04 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 02:05 the chance of getting that effect on a randomized implant is 1 in 51 according to rnd.c 02:05 (the passwall effect, that is) 02:05 aren't they all randomized 02:05 yes 02:05 however, it's most probably the no hands effect 02:06 Is there a bias on that? 02:06 for the base effect to be passwall, you'd need to get very lucky: 1 in 8000 chance, and only for the implants that can have good effects in the first place 02:07 ah 02:07 How's phasing work in soko? 02:07 The walls are unphasable apparently but 02:07 uh 02:07 are the boulders 02:08 yes, I'm pretty sure passwall does nothing at all on soko 02:09 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09 also the lesbian girl is very fleecy! ♥ 02:10 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 02:10 I did notice I was going through boulders 02:10 and couldn't push the 02:10 them* 02:10 yes, outside of soko you'll phase through 02:18 nice patch idea: supermarket cashiers/shopkeeper role can buy what peaceful monsters are carrying 02:18 like in streets of rogue 02:21 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:7075 02:25 Is there a guaranteed city in dungeons in slex? 02:25 It seems there consistantly 02:26 the mall level exists 75% of the time I think 02:27 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:30 using acid sphere on the mall is not the best idea... 02:30 guards? 02:30 yes 02:33 Isn't that just an alignment penality 02:33 if you can kill them, yes 02:34 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 02:36 !tell ais523 wrong alarm sorry 02:36 Will do, stennowork! 02:37 Lymia: I probably never mentioned this but if you buy a major consultation from the oracle, your INT will increase by one. Don't do what I did and try to buy one without having enough money though, or you lose the chance of getting the +INT forever! 02:37 (it gives the INT bonus only once) 02:37 I'd want to restore ability first, wouldn't I? 02:37 yes 02:41 yay 02:41 I can soko 02:41 -!- stennowork has left #hardfought 02:43 of course you can 02:44 Tariru played a perma-wallwalking race in the tournament after all, we'd have noticed if soko was impossible ;) 02:47 what's this layout 02:47 why the stairs there 02:50 it's a fake final soko level; the prize will be some crap like an amulet of blindness and not give a trophy when collected 02:50 you can use the stair and skip the entire thing ;) 02:51 The des files seems to indicate it's potentially a "oR 02:51 ... let's see if real soko ending is that 02:53 make sure you find the correct one in the des file; the layout is exactly the same as the corresponding real final level 02:53 I don't actually get this layout :D 02:54 I'm not sure how it's possible without sticking boulders 02:54 count the boulders and holes; if you have more boulders than holes, you can afford getting a few of them stuck 02:55 18 boulders, 16 holes if I didn't miscount, so you can waste two 02:55 I can, but 02:55 you can also cheat by dropping a bunch of stuff and squeezing on a boulder 02:55 I'd have expected it to be conventionally solvable 02:56 there are slexoban levels that are literally impossible to solve without cheating in some way 02:56 this is nethack fourk apparentl 02:56 it is? I thought jonadab made sure they're all solvable without cheating 02:57 and without getting boulders stuck 02:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:58 yeah 02:58 Through the Cracks 02:59 I have to move the middle one above and to the left of me, then the top one to the next diagonal boulder line to escape without sticking any boulders 03:00 But that seems to stick the whole second area from the right 03:00 I must be missing something 03:00 jonadab apparently removed a critical wall tile in his version 03:00 diagonally between E and F there's a wall in slex but not in fourk 03:01 and that wall means you can't solve it in slex without getting boulders stuck or cheating 03:01 E and F? 03:01 you are looking at jonadab's solution, right? 03:01 http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/nethack-stuff/spoilers-fourk/sokoban/through-the-cracks.html 03:01 h 03:01 Ah* 03:02 This is also the version on nhss 03:02 either way, I'd just suck it up and get two (but not more!) boulders stuck and solve it ;) 03:02 the problem sticks 4 boulders :c 03:02 use the squeezing trick then? 03:03 well, maybe 03:03 just squeeze onto G from the south 03:03 I can stick the two in the top to the middle 03:03 I don't think that cuts off any critical paths 03:03 worst case 03:03 force bolt 03:03 wait, I guess you'd have to squeeze onto D first 03:03 :) 03:03 ah that works too, but reduces your luck 03:03 honestly 03:03 Maybe even force bolt E 03:03 epi: there's a small chance that your bad luck is permanant 03:04 I'd probably push C west, then G west one tile, and force bolt G diagonally to ensure no other boulders are hit 03:04 or you could now squeeze onto E from the west 03:05 and I do admit that it's shitty to have to use such methods, but that's slex ;) 03:07 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:07 fff 03:07 this still sticks 3 boulders 03:07 It's better than 4! 03:14 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 03:20 <@lapis> does anyone know how to get out of the top chamber in the dnh chaos branch level if you don't have tele or digging 03:26 Lymia: omg that's a bullshit soko level with a contamination trap in the corridor 03:26 I do have a ?oremove curse 03:26 might want to dig down on that trap, which will transform it into a pit 03:27 you can also try to untrap the acidpool 03:27 oh, whoops... you can't :( 03:27 the throne trap can delete your gold btw, so maybe put it away first 03:27 im here in hopes of a bag 03:29 aren't we all 03:29 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:29 bag of money and heroin in my case 03:35 ty giant boulder delivery system 03:42 I want a giant giant giant boulder delivery system 03:42 (a big giant's huge boulder) 03:45 dnethack probably has huge boulders, and also theoretically tiny ones ;) 03:45 "oR 03:45 Still need a bag :c 03:46 chests and boxes are usually common, is there none in the main dungeon? 03:47 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:49 There was one in a shop I got 03:55 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:59 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie\splat 04:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha), 121093 points, T:14826, drowned in a moat by a teethfish 04:03 I was wondering how I'd yasd :D 04:04 you got drowned, which is a two-stage instadeath 04:05 first the teethfish grabbed you, and then you would have had exactly one turn to prevent it from killing you on its next action 04:06 which is usually done by zapping the offending monster with teleport or cold, both of which cause it to no longer be on a water tile, so it cannot drown you 04:06 I got banished to castle and forgot it was notele. Shoulda just gtfo'd 04:07 You can't tele monsters on notele levels, right? 04:07 you can, unless you play in evilvariant mode 04:07 certain variants (but not slex) also prevent you from teleporting monsters on such levels 04:07 ah 04:07 I did have a wand of teleport (probably) with charges. Shoulda done that 04:26 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pimpus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17921 04:53 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 05:09 ugh. forgot enchantment. 05:10 and only got 1. 05:11 aren't silver weapons naturally fooproof? 05:11 yeah I guess 05:12 it could be that in grunt they tarnished or something, it's evil enough for that 05:13 yeah it's possible. 05:54 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 06:02 woohoo Tariru! go team srn!!! ♥ 06:03 I might be able to ascend my current dyna game too, unless I royally screw up ;) 06:04 Thanks Amy. 06:04 7 down, 6 to go. 06:06 so you're more than halfway there, yay! which one's next? 06:07 whoops 06:07 Haven't decieded yet. Might do splice or grunt. 06:08 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:09 Junethack: Tariru ascended a game of xNetHack on eu.hardfought.org! 06:11 Tariru: do we need to add a rule "be from planet Earth"? I'm starting to have doubts that you are a bot or human 06:12 but that would also punish my clan 06:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:19 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:20 -!- zid` has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- zid has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:45 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 06:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 06:58 !tell K2 pushed a minor bug fix 06:58 Will do, FIQ! 07:20 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 07:22 !gt Tariru 07:24 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:33 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 07:37 raisse\splat: [backscroll] I'm considering making silver corrodeable, but not rustable of course. 07:41 yeah, like copper 08:06 morning 08:06 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-06-19 06:58 EDT: pushed a minor bug fix 08:07 bhaak: Tariru is a normal player. he's sponsored, so he gets paid to play. wake up, play, do the things, sleep. rinse/repeat 08:08 if I were getting paid full time to play junethack I would probably get at least PotW, true 08:09 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:10 list of sponsors include Proctor & Gamble, Cisco, and Kimberly-Clark (they make 'Depends') 08:13 FIQhack updated (all servers) 08:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pimpus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:20088 08:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pimpus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20099 08:34 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 08:56 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 08:56 <@Tone\ootc> I don't want to know how K2 knows who makes Depends :P 08:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pimpus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:20910 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] dizzylizzy (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:10913 09:00 hah @Tone\ootc 09:07 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07 The demilich casts a spell at the shade! The demilich is caught in the fireball! The demilich is destroyed! 09:07 lol 09:08 ;) 09:08 grunt spellcaster AI is awesome. Create familiar is my favourite. The demilich casts a spell! A kitten appears out of nowhere! 09:09 I died once to Demogorgon in grunthack because he cast 'acid blast' at me. kille dhimself with it also, so when i started another game and came across my bones on the demo level, no demogorgon to have to fight ;) 09:10 lol the kitten! 09:10 beware! 09:10 meow rawr 09:11 The nalfeshnee drinks a potion of gain energy! - this is why I have no energy. 09:11 I've only managed to get hold of one of the three potions of gain energy for myself, that I've seen so far. 09:14 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2127 09:14 oops 09:14 zombie dragons... why's that now? 09:14 silly cleaver 09:14 I need to be muuuch more careful with this bozo weapon 09:14 aosdict\ito \o/ 09:15 Tangles: but.... in grunt, *everyone* seems to have healing or gain energy or some other useful potion. I think way more are actually generated than you would come across in vanilla. 09:17 well I'm 13k turns in, and I've seen 3. (of course many of those chugging sounds might have been them as well. no way to know) 09:17 you can teleport in vlad's tower... I never knew that. 09:20 Tangles: I didn't know that either! 09:20 even though I think I already had teleportitis when I got there 09:20 might just be a grunt thing.... 09:20 I wonder if you can teleport in dnh's Windowless Tower. 09:21 I have 2 stacks of gold in my bag. I find this kind of thing worrying. 09:21 Vlad appears to be no-teleport in xnh (and therefore vanilla) 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12380 09:24 oh I do have another potion of gain energy... must've bagged it at some point, so that's 50% for me :) 09:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pimpus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:22020 09:53 <@Tone\ootc> grunt wishes always amaze me 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2734 09:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 09:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 10:00 <[Demo][srn]> frunt wishes r badass 10:01 <[Demo][srn]> too bad they cant even save u from the hell that is grunt 10:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:14 <@Tone\ootc> how much AC does a dragonhide cloak give? In vanilla you could pretty much ascend with just that cloak Tariru just wished for 😄 10:16 yay elven dagger! Thanks buddy. 10:19 hah 10:27 wtf? I was halfway across the goal level, and the death message popped up. 10:28 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:28 did you actually kill him? 10:28 ah well, I'll take it. As long as I can find the eye and the bell 10:28 I guess he had a raven mutiny on his hands 10:28 disgruntled employee 10:28 nope. He died of something else. 10:28 maybe newt got free and took revenge 10:28 Tone: I think it has 8 more AC than a regular cloak. 10:29 "mysterious circumstances" 10:29 It's at +2, and gives me 11 points in total. 10:29 @Tone\ootc there's an array "matac" somewhere that you take the difference of two materials to find the AC bonus of the unusual material. 10:30 <@Tone\ootc> 11 points if AC (and not fully enchanted), with MR and reflection. Not bad. 10:31 So dragonhide stuff that is normally leather only has +7 to AC, whereas dragonhide stuff that is normally cloth has +8 to AC. 10:31 Newt has the bell. wtf newt? 10:31 <@Tone\ootc> Ah that makes sense aosdict 10:31 Tangles: Obviously trying to get the Amulet before you! Get 'im! 10:31 <@Tone\ootc> haha he wants to ascend too Tangles 😄 10:32 picked it up when you killed the Dark One? 10:32 maybe... or he killed him. I had conflict on, but took it off before that happened. 10:32 I know this materials AC stuff because I basically copied it :D 10:34 newt does not have the eye though. 10:34 hm 10:35 no sign of pug. Maybe he picked it up and branchported out. 10:36 can they do that in grunt? 10:36 I have considered allowing monsters to invoke artifacts in fh 10:36 They can't in grunt 10:36 wouldn't put it past them... 10:36 aosdict\ito: GruntHack monster item usage is mostly vanilla with a few additions 10:37 conflict in the sanctum is great 10:37 unless the eota is invisible.... 10:37 it'd be just like grunt to pull those shenanigans. 10:38 hah 10:38 "a few additions" 10:38 significant ones 10:38 yeah that can happen 10:38 aosdict\ito: but materially few 10:38 kinda like how fh started out, few additions with huge gameplay implications 10:40 nope. found pug's corpse 10:41 You hear some noises in the distance. "Burrrrp!" 10:41 ..and in the second of pug's sacks... 10:41 the EotA \o/ 10:48 <[Demo][srn]> how does one do grunt hell? 10:48 no raisse\splat!!! 10:48 D: 10:48 I was *so* going to ascend this one 10:48 but she summoned insects on me so I couldn't get away, and didn't heed the horn 10:48 (the insects did but it was already too late) 10:49 "didn't heed the horn" makes me think of Gondor 10:49 <[Demo][srn]> is that better than an artifact in the offhand? 10:49 <[Demo][srn]> cause u can dual wield artifacts in gh 10:49 <[Demo][srn]> and doesnt thirsty do double dmg? 10:50 [Demo][srn]: For Val-Dwa-Fem-Law, thirsty silver katana is excellent as an offhand 10:50 <[Demo][srn]> and doesn't cancellation clear all enchantment from weapons 10:50 <[Demo][srn]> so you are losing a lot when it gets cancelled 10:50 yes, it does 10:50 I dual-wielded Excal and Mojo, but if I had a wish to spare I probably would have done thirsty silver katana 10:50 <[Demo][srn]> it seems dangerous to try to maintain 10:51 My +7 Excal / +7 Mojo actually persisted for the whole game. 10:51 <[Demo][srn]> wow 10:58 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:14 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:24999 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 65373 points, T:22873, petrified by a cockatrice 11:21 <@IceBox> rip 😦 11:30 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 25457 points, T:2614, killed by a hobgoblin 11:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed Aglaope, on T:26671 11:47 argh I hate poison instadeath worse than anything else in the game 11:48 one reason I favour orcs 11:48 or play xnh for that matter 11:48 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:49 <[Demo][srn]> why does tariru get so many wishes? :P 11:50 2 smoky potion wishes, a throne wish, an early wand of wishing, and the castle wand. 11:50 I still have 3 wishes left. 11:54 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 11:54 * Pinkbeast evaporates Excalibur! Thank you, DCSS finger bindings! 11:57 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 12:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:03 [hdf-us] [fh] icebox (IceBox) (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:52046 12:05 !tell AntiGulp after much filtering, added the RGRN yanis to the archive 12:05 Will do, aosdict\ito! 12:08 <[Demo][srn]> what the hell 12:08 <[Demo][srn]> thats a lot of wishes 12:12 stuuuuuuuuuuupid dynahack djinni 12:12 why can't I wish for the magic marker I desperately need 12:13 * AmyBSOD\srn points at the inventor of nonmagical "wishes", then curses. 12:13 there are no nonmagical items worth wishing for :( 12:14 gah I guess I'll "wish" for a t-shirt 12:14 #notreallyawish 12:14 #shouldnotbreakwishlessconduct 12:15 hmmmmmmmmm, potions of water aren't magical, I could wish for unholy water! 12:16 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30447 points, T:2391, killed by a kobold shaman's force bolt, while fainted from lack of food 12:20 wow I have a +3 thirsty katana 12:21 does "thirsty" mean "attacks peaceful things without a prompt"? 12:21 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 12:22 no 12:22 it drains levels 12:22 ah cool 12:22 gonna test that on the ludios soldiers :) 12:23 The thirsty katana draws the life from the clay golem! 12:23 weird, I'd have expected golems to be immune, considering they're nonliving beings 12:24 <[Demo][srn]> golems arent immune 12:24 <[Demo][srn]> you are drawing their animating forces 12:24 heh 12:24 undead are immune to thirsty weapons 12:25 "The black unicorn picks up a potion of full healing." wtf since when do they do that outside of slex 12:25 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:26 since grunthack apparently 12:26 <[Demo][srn]> grunthack is hateful 12:26 oh neat... notepad++ has a built in tail feature 12:26 grunthack is one of the best variants ♥ 12:27 however, I'm currently playing dyna 12:27 hopefully it won't crash! 12:27 ahhh i thought you were on grunthack too 12:27 AmyBSOD\srn: What about a stethoscope, a tinning kit, a t-shirt, a can of grease, candles, a music instrument, a silver saber, an oilskin sack, or an oilskin cloak, an ice box, a shield of reflection, an athame, or just money? 12:27 bhaak: already got most of them or they are redundant; t-shirt is more or less the only useful thing on that list 12:28 magic markers, on the other hand, I'd like to have half a dozen more ;) 12:28 you should be able to wish for a wet t-shirt. just saying 12:28 (curse the genocide nerf!) 12:28 I see, you have fun 12:28 ;) 12:28 man, object properties are just sooooo good! all other variants should also implement them :D 12:28 this thirsty katana is ripping those wimps a new one 12:28 here we go... 12:29 AmyBSOD\srn - fix bugs first before adding new content 12:29 <[Demo][srn]> jesus christ lol 12:29 ^ on a cracker 12:32 K2: any particular bugs you are referring to? 12:32 all of them 12:33 K2: @IceBox has a FIQHack save that segfaults on load 12:33 ok 12:33 which server? 12:33 <@IceBox> hardfought us 12:33 ok thanks 12:34 <@IceBox> thank you! lemme know if it's salvageable first time something like this has happened for me 12:34 <[Demo][srn]> it probably is because nh4 saves 12:34 yeah 12:34 should be fine 12:34 never seen a fh save lost forever I thik 12:34 *think 12:35 <[Demo][srn]> ive seen it happen on astral 12:35 <[Demo][srn]> when ppl die 12:35 @IceBox FIQ has your save 12:36 [Demo][srn]: death does not count as losing a save 12:36 <@IceBox> like, the person? Is he holding it ransom? 12:36 heh 12:36 <@IceBox> FIQ i dont know where you are, or who you're with but if you dont give me my save i will find you - lliam neeson 12:36 oh wow just realized that grunthack has overview 12:37 and annotate 12:37 well, yes 12:37 [hdf-us] [fh] Sierra (DeltaSierra) (Val Hum Fem Law), 1740 points, T:433, poisoned by a water moccasin 12:37 K2: pushed a fix 12:37 k 12:37 @IceBox when K2 has updated, you can load the save 12:38 <@IceBox> awww yeah exciting news!! 12:38 <@IceBox> this is my 2nd time in the planes and hopefully (with better preparation) my first ascension in any *Hack 12:38 this is the benefit of the NH4 save system 12:38 FIQhack updated (all servers) 12:38 it's almost always easy to fix the bugs people find 12:39 except when it isnt 12:39 @IceBox I suggest you put your levi ring back on btw 12:39 <@IceBox> hahaha, yeah i was getting ready for plane of water 12:39 K2: Magic chest timer bug is probably the only somewhat recent bug I've had that is a huge PITA to fix 12:39 <@IceBox> that was my first attempt that crashed the save (or whatever caused it) 12:39 <[Demo][srn]> protip 12:39 I haven't really fixed it yet, just told people "don't do that" to avoid it 12:39 <[Demo][srn]> levitation doesnt work on fh water plane 12:40 how bad is killing peacefuls as chaotic in grunthack 12:40 as long as they aren't of your race 12:40 it should be ok 12:40 they are of my race 12:40 or were, rather 12:42 but i wasn't called a murderer 12:43 arghghg 12:43 that was not as planned 12:43 i wanted the ammy 12:48 K2: pushed another fix 12:50 !who 12:50 FIQ: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] IceBox [fh] groovejumper [fh] ahrimen [fh] DeltaSierra [fh] rikerw [dnh] hypnotist [nh361] Eleven [nh361] 12:50 FIQ: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [dyn] damerell [nh343] Raisse [nh343] elenmirie [fh] Tariru [gh] stenno [gh] Graznop [nh361] oh6 [xnh] 12:50 FIQ: [hdf-au] No current players 12:51 yay bigroom. 12:51 gg 12:51 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 24676 points, T:1440, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a spellbook 12:51 with the downstairs not visible 12:51 @luxidream how is your dyna game going 12:52 <@luxidream> just started 12:52 is there QoL stuff in dyna you miss from fh? 12:52 that I can... borrow 12:52 dyna is the one variant besides fh that I've seen with major QoL focus 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helping hand", on T:31912 12:53 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 15157 points, T:655, killed by a giant rat 12:54 <@luxidream> not off the top of my head 12:54 <@luxidream> FIQhack is fairly complete in terms of QoL 12:54 <@rikersan\srn> @d?priest of ghaunadaur 12:54 priest of Ghaunadaur (b) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification | Confers: cold shock poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d12 touch acid, 1d12 touch sticky, 2d12 hug suck-equipment, 0d8 cast clerical, 2d12 passive acid | Alignment: -5 | Flags: omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, vegan 12:54 ok 12:54 What is that block besides the altar in the same room? 12:54 Or is it just me that sees it? 12:54 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7354 points, T:308, killed by a sewer rat 12:54 <@rikersan\srn> damnit I hate traitors 12:55 what is that thing 12:55 <@rikersan\srn> it's a good pet too 12:55 that you looked up 12:55 <@rikersan\srn> it's a shoggoth with clerical spells 12:55 <@rikersan\srn> it's horrifying OP 12:55 ah 12:55 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7710 points, T:240, killed by a boulder 12:55 @d?shoggoth 12:55 shoggoth (b) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification | Confers: cold shock poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d12 touch acid, 1d12 touch sticky, 2d12 hug suck-equipment, 2d12 passive acid | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, vegan 12:55 <@rikersan\srn> (well, it's not that bad since you can wand of death it but still) 12:55 hm 12:55 yeah it's basically a shoggoth with casting 12:55 nasty 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> not just casting 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> do you konw how dnh differentiates magic vs clerical? that has clerical :( 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> magic = things like destroy armor, summon nasties, etc. 12:56 clerical is like 12:56 earthquake, geyser, fire pillar, etc 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> clerical = summon insects, geysers, filth, acid rain, etc. 12:56 arcane is like 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> yea 12:56 summon nasties, curse items, etc 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> but it's really the filth, acid rain that's the issue 12:56 <@rikersan\srn> curse is clerical too iirc 12:57 oh yeah right 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> filth makes you ill while vomiting, and greases your hands 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> (tha'ts why dnh demo kits always carry some serious unholy water, curse yo weapon) 12:57 <@luxidream> does FIQhack already display damage done to you next to enemy attacks 12:57 <@luxidream> and number of turns taken for multi-turn actions? 12:57 the latter, yes 12:58 I figured the former would be too spammy 12:58 former is hpmon right 12:58 [HP+2=4] etc 12:58 yeah thats hpmon 12:58 (3.4.3-NAO) 12:59 the thing I turn off because it's something moving at the periphery of my field of vision and it distracts me horribly. 12:59 you are referring to hitpointbar I think? 13:00 raisse\splat, that is 13:00 no, the thing with the numbres 13:00 ok 13:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:32257 13:00 changing numbers in the corner of the screen that part of my brain wants to pay attention to but it isn't information I don't have already, so it's pointless and distracting for me 13:01 ok 13:01 FIQhack updated (all servers) 13:01 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7071 points, T:179, killed by a baby shimmering dragon 13:01 I don't like hitpointbar either, but that's not the point 13:03 @luxidream so you think I should add hpmon as an option? 13:04 <@luxidream> I do find it useful, yes 13:04 <@luxidream> perhaps make it off by default if you dislike it 13:05 it's apparently called hp_notify in dynahack 13:07 [hdf-us] [fh] icebox (IceBox) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ';', on T:52367 13:07 <[Demo][srn]> can i get texts sent to my phone when my hp is low? 13:08 <[Demo][srn]> does nitrohack support that? 13:09 NitroHack is 3.4.3 with a different UI and save system 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6250 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 4360 points, T:6256, killed by a soldier ant 13:14 <[Demo][srn]> better than killed by croesus 13:20 [hdf-us] [fh] icebox (IceBox) (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached the Astral Plane, on T:52448 13:22 What does the magical bag of holding in FIQHack do? 13:23 it's a BoH with an object property 13:23 oilskin, to be more precise 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28496 13:24 because that is the only object property a BoH can have 13:24 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:24 Nice, nice 13:24 -!- Tariru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:25 I could have used that during the Valkyrie quest 13:25 MiseryMyra: you're in ootc, right? 13:25 I am 13:25 are you not keyed into ##OrderOfTheCockatrice-nethack ? 13:25 hmm you are 13:25 so you should be able to join 13:25 i want a blessed silver thirsty +7 bag of holding and reflection 13:25 FIQ make it so 13:25 oh and fireproof 13:25 I'm on the discord 13:26 <[Demo][srn]> i want that too but too bad k2 u cant have it there are gnome children starving in the mines and u want ur damn fancy ass bag 13:26 <@Misery Myra> But, yes, I'm here too 13:27 K2: blessed silver thirsty +7 bag of holding and reflection and fumbling and bad luck? 13:28 ^ that 13:29 Or: bag of holding and disintegration 13:33 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 13:33 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 31174 points, T:3318, killed by a giant ant 13:33 https://pastebin.com/2LZPUyV7 13:34 this is the code I have currently for the change of consistency for the ?oSM 13:34 the makeknown_msg call is wrong, that doesn't work correctly for stackable items. I need something else there 13:35 I wonder if I forgot something else 13:35 is it a nerf? 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] dizzylizzy (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14585 13:37 depends if you care about the BUC of the scroll. I 13:37 I'd say, if you don't intend to read it, it's no nerf 13:37 I do, because I keep blessing them 13:37 there's no reason ever to read scare monster 13:37 for that, it's no nerf :) 13:38 oh good 13:38 it removes the call prompt and auto-id it 13:38 as is immortalized forever on nhqdb, I'm sick and tired of every "balancing" thing being yet another nerf 13:38 it auto-ids it in case it turns to dust or you notice the BUC change when picking it up 13:39 nice, so if you have the proper autopickup_exception you won't pick up another by mistake 13:40 yeah good feature there. the only argument I can see for using a call prompt is the old devteam line of thinking that just auto-id is slightly spoily 13:41 yeah but I'd argue that even way back, people source dived to find out what the message meant that the game just did show you 13:42 Right, I think the idea of "won't anyone think of the poor people who just want to play unspoiled??? we can't dump information like this on their heads!!!" is silly 13:43 yeah. even if you were trying to learn everything by yourself, after a few games you'd realized what it is. 13:44 that's also why I made the auto-id of wand engraving as thorough as possible. going so far to add logical exclusions (player already knows this vanishing wand, so auto-id this as the other one) 13:44 Aw heck 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] dizzylizzy (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:15238 13:45 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 77966 points, T:20579, petrified by attacking a cockatrice directly 13:46 I got polymorphed into a dragon and attacked a cockatrice without thinking 13:48 what color dragon? 13:48 (obviously not yellow) 13:48 Silver 13:49 at least that's a pretty shiny statue 13:50 signs I am tired: I decide to play more junethack, instead of connecting to hdf enter my shortcut for xnh wizard mode instead, get 200 turns in before it dawns on me that this isn't fiqhack 13:50 hahaha 13:51 xnh and fh UI isn't even remotely similar 13:52 hm so in fiqhack I just came across a small shield of power. but I already have gauntlets of power, so don't really need anything else because valk. 13:52 all of the other magical castle gear seems tailor-built to provide properties I already have 13:53 heh 13:53 +7 ring of protection 13:53 not badf 13:53 *bad 13:53 also nice Pw 13:53 I mean, I guess I'll keep this helmet of stealth... 13:53 [hdf-us] [fh] Sierra (DeltaSierra) (Val Hum Fem Law), 45692 points, T:4594, killed by a soldier ant 13:53 thanks, it happened when I hit a single magic trap 13:53 er antimagic field 13:54 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 13:54 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] dizzylizzy (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:15938 13:55 Your silver Grayswandir sears Asmodeus' flesh! You kill Asmodeus! # oh blow, I was keeping him for later 13:55 you only have yourself to blame 13:55 niiiiice, 0:3 wishing 13:56 FIQ: any imminently nasty stuff in VoD/gehennom I should know about? 13:56 Yeah, I should have poked him with +2 daggers, not risked one-shotting him with Grayswandir. Oh well, guess I'll do the rest of Gehennom the old-fashioned way. 13:56 aosdict\ito: no 13:59 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 13:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6_] by ChanServ 13:59 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:59 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 14:01 ugh fiqhack, stop messing up my kit plans! 14:01 what did I do now 14:01 gave me a leather cloak of reflection 14:01 oh 14:01 not bad 14:01 but I need MR >:( 14:01 not bad at all 14:01 just wish for a quest artifact 14:01 or something 14:02 MMoM still does that in fiqhack? 14:02 confers MR that is 14:03 it's like 3.4.3 14:03 so yes 14:03 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:05 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 14:10 and without the need to reserve my shield slot for reflection I might actually start twoweaponing 14:10 leather cloak is MC2, right 14:10 that said, FIQHack MC is already nerfed, and CoMR is MC2 as-is in fh 14:12 aosdict\ito: you have the same fruitname as me 14:13 what is your fruitname? 14:14 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 14:14 fruit of wishing 14:15 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 37124 points, T:2770, killed by a killer bee 14:16 haha the wedding ring is a ring of conflict in my game :) 14:17 I've seen engagement conflict 14:17 that's always cute when it happens 14:17 huh, the shops in orcustown have "seems too hard to dig" walls despite the shopkeepers being absent 14:17 shops always do 14:17 i think the best lisp to do lambdahack would be haskell 14:17 it even has curses bindings 14:18 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:18 I found a simple roguelike "inspired by nethack" on some haskell game aggregate 14:21 there's an lisp mode for playing nethack in emacs 14:21 that's just a front-end :( 14:21 but it might be a start, i'll check it out 14:23 you might not want to look, your eyes might bleed. elisp is a very unlispy lisp 14:23 FIQ: yes, the fruitname was inspired by your exploits 14:24 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 23032 points, T:1270, killed by a Mr. Adjama, the shopkeeper 14:24 [hdf-us] [fh] Hildi (aosdictj) (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "the blessed Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:23921 14:24 is letting a cold breather repeatedly shoot frost at you on levels with lots of lava a popular strategy, or am I the only player who does that? 14:25 mmm 14:25 FIQ: should I now be seeing magic resistance in my intrinsics list? because I'm not 14:25 bhaak: shush, elisp is baller 14:26 oooooh thanks blue dragon for this magical bag of holding 14:27 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:28 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16582 points, T:1292, killed by an air elemental of Thoth 14:29 are there unmagical bag of holdings? 14:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:30 bhaak: yes, the unmagical ones merely hold stuff and reduce weight 14:30 * bhaak goes source diving 14:30 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 14:32 FIQ: is there a way to make it so that all e.g. wands of lightning in my inventory get put together? 14:33 i like to pretend that bags of holding reduce weight but don't reduce size, so you end up hauling around this giant hot-air-balloon type of thing behind you semi-floating through the air 14:33 dizzylizzy\ito: there's probably something fun you could do with the ideal gas law if that's the case 14:35 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 28626 points, T:1589, killed by an arrow 14:36 aosdict\ito: nerd 14:36 I have managed to code the possibility for monsters to ride other monsters. Will probably put it in SpliceHack and then release it as a standalone patch once I clean up and stabilize the code. 14:36 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict\ito at 2018-06-19 12:05 EDT: after much filtering, added the RGRN yanis to the archive 14:37 aosdict\ito: oooh 14:37 ok rip this game 14:38 damn 14:38 [hdf-us] [fh] Hildi (aosdictj) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class 'L', on T:23988 14:38 aosdict\ito: inventory should be sorted 14:38 as to your first question, did you get MR intrinsically? 14:38 if not, then the answer is no 14:38 oh right, confusion of "intrinsic" 14:39 i'm going to zap myself with this wand of magic missile just to be sure 14:44 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 14:47 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 14:48 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:50 how can I be fighting Hildi's ghost... if I've never played a game with this name before? [thinking emoji] 14:51 FIQ: fh doesn't stop autoexploring when you enter a shop 14:52 <@luxidream> anyone else getting tons of lag on HF all of a sudden 14:52 FIQ: will eating from a partly eaten lizard corpse halt stoning? 14:52 aosdict\ito: yes 14:52 aosdict\ito: prefix with 1 14:52 to only take a single bite 14:52 how many bites total? 5? 14:52 5 yes 14:53 bhaak: indeed, I should probably fix that somehow 14:55 MiseryMyra: nooo, stop zombifying me! 14:56 clan pvp 14:56 If I go down, I'm taking you with me 14:56 I'm actually cornered :O 14:56 MiseryMyra: did you actually die in VoD at any point? is this bones? 14:56 aosdict\ito: it's just minor though 14:56 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 9156 points, T:3732, killed by a minotaur 14:57 FIQ: how do I know when it gets worse, the wiki page says don't worry about it 14:57 No, those aren't my bones 14:57 also how do I cure it 14:57 aosdict\ito: it's probably zombierevival of player monster corpses 14:57 you know when it gets worse 14:57 you can't miss it 14:57 you cure it the same way you cure Ill 14:58 oh 14:58 aw it was more fun seeing you struggle 14:58 maybe make unihorn not work on it, it's much more frightening that way 14:58 yeah I have considered it 14:58 "You destroy MiseryMyra!" 14:58 but you can be zombified earlygame 14:58 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 14:58 :c 14:59 aosdict\ito: personally I wouldn't waste applying a blessed unihorn on minor zombification 14:59 since it can unbless 14:59 maybe that is just me 14:59 oh what 14:59 since when did it do that 14:59 blessed unihorns work 100% of the time on all ailments in FIQHack 14:59 but can unbless 14:59 hothraxxa is down too >:) 14:59 uncursed unihorns are much more unrealible 15:00 this was my way of balancing unihorns 15:00 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 15:01 aosdict\ito: it bugs me when I see gaps in walls 15:01 oh well 15:03 "The bolt of cold reflects from your something weird!" ??? 15:03 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:03 thanks fiqhack for pointing out the valley of the dead must be housing a graveyard 15:03 aosdict\ito: pushed a fix 15:03 to the reflection thing 15:04 !tell K2 pushed a fix 15:04 Will do, FIQ! 15:04 <@IceBox> That includes the lava levi fix too if I'm following the commits right FIQ? 15:04 I like the buff to twoweaponing that Expert auto-iding enchantment provides, but at the same time, I don't think twoweaponing should be buffed on principle 15:04 FIQhack updated (all servers) 15:04 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-06-19 15:04 EDT: pushed a fix 15:05 @IceBox yup 15:05 <@IceBox> Not that I personally need it anymore, haha 15:05 FIQ: also I'm totally going to steal your XP curve 15:05 it is nicer IMO 15:11 elenmirie\splat: be careful with water Es 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:20240 15:11 they can engulf you and wander into water 15:11 and then you die 15:11 this was unintentional but I will have to deal with it after junethack 15:11 to be fair 15:11 ah 15:11 thanks for the warning 15:12 yeah I'm probably just going to wear magical breathing 15:12 because of the nice blue dragon and his oilskin bag of holding 15:12 also note the -Lev, that is to notify that Lev isn't working 15:13 FIQ: what are these unseeable 5's which appear to be zombies of some sort? 15:14 aosdict\ito: invisible zombies I guess? 15:14 <@rikersan\srn> I didin't know there was any Z that rated a 5 15:14 I thought I could see invisible 15:14 giant ones I believe 15:14 @v?giant zombie 15:14 giant zombie (Z) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 8 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d8 claw physical, 2d8 claw physical | Alignment: -4 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, undead, stalker 15:14 <@rikersan\srn> no way 15:15 hmm 15:15 <@rikersan\srn> 5 is like vampire lord or something 15:15 aosdict\ito: ok, it's probably a revived player monster 15:15 with intrinsic invis 15:15 ok how awful are hostile player monsters? were they toned down? 15:16 first level of Gehennom proper, first thing I see 15:16 they were toned down in the sense that they no longer carry 5 "oLS 15:16 otherwise they're the same 15:16 oh, and no magical already-magical gear 15:16 (or at least much less of that) 15:16 well he had _one_ "oLS 15:18 how did you kill him that easily 15:18 lowlevel + wiz = low max HP I guess 15:19 nice helm 15:19 I hit him with sleep rays 15:19 ah 15:19 no sleep res 15:19 rip 15:19 yeah nice helm... if I had more than 0 Pw to cast with 15:19 you do 15:19 if you put it on 15:19 retroactive maxHP/Pw change you remember? 15:19 and of course the magical orcish helm I've been lugging around is stealth :P 15:19 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 15:20 very useful 15:20 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 nope 15:20 didn't work 15:20 try s 15:20 it should update 15:20 ah, I need to make it update faster 15:20 that is a bit confusing 15:21 only happens turn to turn? 15:21 it should also happen whenever it changes 15:21 turn to turn is fallback 15:21 if I forget it somewhere 15:21 to prevent hobug/etc 15:21 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:21 hm is athame worth it to carry around? Elbereth still works in Gehennom. 15:21 up to you 15:22 I hardly ever use E after earlygame 15:22 and it still works on demon lords 15:22 and it doesn't work vs uniques 15:22 if you think you'll use it, sure 15:22 demon lords are unique 15:22 s 15:22 but... I also never end up using my wands of fire 15:23 woot go elenmirie\splat 15:23 FIQ: even if Michael the Sorcerer had sleep res, I could still put him to sleep for a couple turns, right? 15:24 lol a male lizard corpse 15:24 aosdict\ito: intrinsic sleep res makes you wake up the moment you're hurt 15:25 Are there any magic chests beyond the Castle? 15:26 yes 15:26 Orcus town 15:27 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 15:28 FIQ: why is everything magical stealth 15:29 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:29 just your luck 15:29 or lack of it 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 food rations on an altar, on T:3177 15:31 technically this ring of slow digestion and stealth is superior to the ring of slow digestion and nothing. but not by much. 15:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased figurine of a surya deva named Chris_ANG", on T:34335 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed the Grue, on T:34389 15:34 <@rikersan\srn> hey RIP grue 15:34 <@rikersan\srn> I knew that wish was worth it 15:36 <@rikersan\srn> oh shit chris nerfed dantalion 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging named hey hardfought", on T:34513 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:34513 15:38 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 5091 points, T:3273, petrified by a chickatrice 15:39 gz elenmirie\splat 15:39 ty! 15:39 <@lapis> How’d it get nerfed riker? 15:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed engagement ring", on T:34517 15:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:34520 15:41 where the heck did juiblex go 15:41 grats elenmirie\splat 15:41 thanks! 15:41 <@rikersan\srn> lapis: I got some message about "something in the way" when I tried to warp to a solider inside the castle 15:42 <@rikersan\srn> (dantalion's best ability is a covetous warp that bypasses notele, the target needs to be an non-mindless monster tho) 15:42 aosdict\ito: he scared 15:42 <@rikersan\srn> I tried again and it worked fine tho? 15:42 afraid of the big powerful heroine with Excalibur? 15:42 thought travel is great 15:42 covetous-warp is fun 15:42 aosdict\ito: mhm 15:43 <@rikersan\srn> enki is almost as good, better sometimes 15:43 <@rikersan\srn> if you don't warp to warp to demo but you do want his downstairs 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased figurine of an aurumach rilmani named Tarmunora", on T:34520 15:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 mirror brand", on T:34532 15:45 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9505 15:45 <[Demo][srn]> enki is insane 15:46 <[Demo][srn]> yey! 15:47 <@rikersan\srn> fuck i unbound dant 15:47 <@rikersan\srn> yay amy! 15:47 <@rikersan\srn> I forgot about thoenes 15:47 <@rikersan\srn> RIP lvl 14 15:47 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:48 nymphets forever! 15:48 Junethack: elenmirie ascended a game of FIQHack on eu.hardfought.org! 15:49 <@rikersan\srn> aight, got tulani, surya + blade, and now an aurumach rilmani 15:49 <@rikersan\srn> planning on snagging oona if I can 15:49 <@rikersan\srn> this should be interesting to see how I die 15:49 <@rikersan\srn> I still need MR for the deva tho, and they're 'large' :/ 15:50 <@rikersan\srn> and the aurumach can't fly apparently 15:50 <[Demo][srn]> are those even any good? 15:51 <@rikersan\srn> the spells look good 15:51 <@rikersan\srn> Golden wave (Aurumach unique spell): Deals 2d12 damage of a type the target is vulnerable to. Ice storm: 4d8 cold damage and 4d8 physical damage Acid rain: 8d6 acid damage and wets inventory Solid fog: 2/3rds speed reduction Disappear: Makes self invisible Poison gas: Creates stinking clouds Make visible: Makes target visible Prismatic spray: Up to 7 random element explosions 15:51 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour" unlocked by AmyBSOD! 15:51 <[Demo][srn]> but does it do it mvm? 15:51 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter" unlocked by AmyBSOD! 15:51 <@rikersan\srn> + 3x 2d8 weapon 15:51 <[Demo][srn]> yey! srn 15:51 Junethack: AmyBSOD ascended a game of DynaHack on eu.hardfought.org! 15:52 need three more trophies to catch up to Luxidream ;) 15:54 announcy didnt annouce elenmirie\splat fiqhack ascension 15:54 bhaak ^ 15:54 <[Demo][srn]> i should try to finish my grunt game 15:54 <[Demo][srn]> Announcy: Junethack: elenmirie ascended a game of FIQHack on eu.hardfought.org! 15:54 I'm announcing Junethack events. Ask bhaak or #junethack for more info. 15:54 <[Demo][srn]> yeah it did 15:55 <[Demo][srn]> hey amy what does the samurai quest artifact do? luckstone, right? is that all 15:55 nah that's the barbarian 15:55 samurai quest artifact bisects targets, and you if you don't wand of death the nemesis 15:55 ah i see it 15:55 buried 15:55 i still blame bhaak 15:55 <[Demo][srn]> so throw it in my bag? 15:55 well I usually stuff it in a chest 15:56 you do *not* want it to get into the hands of an intelligent weapon-using foe 15:56 oh you're playing grunthack... monsters will loot it from chests then 15:57 <[Demo][srn]> oh hey it is a luckstone 15:57 it is? 15:57 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 15:57 TIL 15:58 How long is grunthack hell? 15:59 probably rather long, similar to dyna I guess, but with Demogorgon at the end 15:59 Ah, I've reached demogorgon now. 15:59 <[Demo][srn]> dyna has a demogorgon level 15:59 That must be the end then. 15:59 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:59 [Demo][srn]: yes, but there's no Demogorgon, instead you get nalfeshnees and stuff 15:59 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 16:01 man, playing slex after enduring all those variants feels so... unusual :) 16:01 I'm having trouble getting back into this character that I started a few days ago 16:01 K2: hah! "buried"! you mean "suffocated by your fancy, oh I can spew as much color as I want bot" 16:01 fake news 16:02 AmyBSOD\srn: that's just because you're missing all the unnethack features. 16:02 lol 16:02 Tariru i've gone as deep as lvl 58 in grunthack 16:02 Demogorgon's lair is very close to the end 16:02 <[Demo][srn]> his demo is 52 16:02 <[Demo][srn]> or 51 16:02 <[Demo][srn]> i dont recall 16:03 I mean, how do people open locked doors? kick it down? or really applying their lock pick/key to doors every time? 16:03 and then those fucking secret corridors 16:04 bhaak: usually I kick them down 16:04 or in slex I can also #force them :P 16:04 or forcebolt it 16:04 neener-neener, slex has something that un doesn't! :P 16:04 Tariru: after demogorgon it's still 1-2 levels 16:04 vibrating square is the last of course 16:06 AmyBSOD\srn: if I would cry about stuff that is in slex but not in un, there would have been a second deluge 16:06 <[Demo][srn]> i need a lot more resources 16:07 * AmyBSOD\srn reads a scroll of flood! bhaak falls into the water! bhaak's lindworm scale mail rusts even though it can't rust! :P 16:09 <@rikersan\srn> demo: I think so but that's a good point 16:09 Argh, he drained my orb of fate. 16:09 <[Demo][srn]> yikes 16:09 <@rikersan\srn> RIP 16:09 <[Demo][srn]> he has cancellation? 16:09 I hope grunt lets you use gold detection to find portals. 16:09 I can still recharge it, it just lost the trap detection. 16:09 <[Demo][srn]> how did you kill him? 16:09 <@rikersan\srn> wait, what? 16:09 I just stabbed him to death. 16:10 <[Demo][srn]> aren't you supposed to not melee him or something? 16:10 Valks don't have much in the way of ranged attacks. 16:10 <[Demo][srn]> mjollnir :P 16:10 I could just dump wands of cold at him I suppose, but I probably don't have enough of them. 16:10 Forgot about that. Still, it can smash my rings and wands, which is annoying. 16:11 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 16:11 Can you find grunthack vsquare by gold detection? I'm guessing not as it's 3.4.3 derived. 16:11 <[Demo][srn]> i think my samurai is gonna try to take him on with yumi and ya 16:12 Tariru no 16:12 you have to find it the old fashioned way 16:13 This is going to be tedious on an open cavern level. 16:14 but it's interesting how features spread. 16:14 <@rikersan\srn> confirmed demo it seems to work 16:14 <@rikersan\srn> since that pirhana just got wrecked by like 10 explosions 16:14 I think, the feature that spread the fastest was showing the price in shops when you walk over them 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:31208 16:14 <[Demo][srn]> prismatic spray 16:14 <@rikersan\srn> (acid and fire mostly? idk, think it's the gold thingys 'prismatic' bit) 16:14 <@rikersan\srn> yeah 16:14 <@rikersan\srn> tha 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] munterplant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:31210 16:16 in hindsight it's such an obvious feature. and quite simple to implement. this could have been done decades ago 16:16 <[Demo][srn]> which vanilla quest artifact is the worst? 16:17 Program in disorder! select_off a blessed amulet of reflection (being worn)??? 16:17 Any ideas? saving and reloading didn't fix... 16:17 [Demo][srn]: heart of ahriman 16:17 agree 16:17 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?7 16:17 <@rikersan\srn> definitely heart 16:17 after that, orb of detection 16:18 prismatic sphere 16:18 fav spell from ad&d 16:18 half spell damage is nice but by the time you can do the quest you usuallly have the other things already 16:19 <[Demo][srn]> is there anything special about gh sanctum? 16:19 no 16:20 <[Demo][srn]> i guess vampire mages 16:20 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2419 glad to know that my failure made someone happy at least 16:21 <[Demo][srn]> it made me happy cause i ended up pudding farming harder 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed the invisible Sir Garland, on T:35385 16:21 <[Demo][srn]> and that helped 16:23 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 16:23 <[Demo][srn]> i figure gh doesnt remove the force? 16:26 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:31 [Demo][srn]: it's grunthack 16:31 of course not 16:31 it's evil 16:32 <[Demo][srn]> worth a try 16:40 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41 God, fuck the mysterious force 16:45 <[Demo][srn]> yeah its awful 16:50 that is one insistent wizard 16:57 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:04 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04 needs more wizards 17:04 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 17:05 now he's invisible will all his incarnations from now on be invisible too? 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2194 17:05 raisse\splat: no 17:07 oh, no more rodneys anyway 17:07 I make it 13 17:08 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4097 points, T:4978, killed by a jackal 17:10 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Val Dwa Fem Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:10776 17:11 <[Demo][srn]> nice 17:11 congrats Tariru! 17:12 Thanks. 17:12 Bags being able to catch fire in grunt is utterly aggravating. 17:12 gz 17:12 At least they're easy to fireproof though. 17:13 Once you know that bags can catch fire that is. 17:13 how do you fireproof? wield and read confused enchant weapon? 17:13 correct raisse\splat 17:14 Yep. It only works for weapons and weapon tools in vanilla, but grunt lets you fooproof everything that way. 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 978 points, T:2940, killed by a rothe 17:17 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 17:18 <@rikersan\srn> congrats tariru! 17:18 is there anything tari hasn't done 17:19 yes 17:19 he hasn't gotten to the moon yet 17:19 Graznop: what variant is this in? 17:19 he needs to call the four giants with his ocarina then 17:20 Junethack: Tariru ascended a game of GruntHack on eu.hardfought.org! 17:21 That's 8 ascensions in 8 games across 8 variants? 17:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:36182 17:22 <[Demo][srn]> sporkhack 17:22 aosdict\ito: vanilla 3.6.1 Although amulet appears worn, cannot take it off (I can wear another, but that would be cheating ;) 17:23 hmmm 17:23 Enlightenment shows the effects are still active... 17:23 <[Demo][srn]> lucky 17:23 <[Demo][srn]> wear a bunch of aols at once 17:24 <[Demo][srn]> you always gotta take advantage of when the game breaks in a way that doesnt screw you over 17:24 you may want to save and have K2 back up the save 17:24 so that someone can look at it 17:24 <[Demo][srn]> to try to compensate for the other 90% of the time 17:24 K2: ^^ 17:24 Game is saved at the moment. 17:26 it appears that somehow your amulet's owornmask is still W_AMUL, but uamul isn't that amulet. 17:26 Tried, but can only wear one additional amulet, not many. Still refl and ls good. 17:30 Next time I have a bunch of amulets I will try and reproduce... thanks... 17:33 Tariru: you should win oldhack :P 17:33 for a change 17:33 I might try it, once I've got all the other variants done. 17:35 Graznop: ideally, don't play the game again till the save is backed up, because I don't think we have enough information to see the problem right now. 17:36 (this would be better with the NH4 multisave system, granted...) 17:37 OK, was going to call it a night anyway. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help... 17:37 <[Demo][srn]> rebase xnh on nitro 17:37 <[Demo][srn]> instead of nh4 17:37 no thank you 17:37 <[Demo][srn]> it would be really painful 17:37 <[Demo][srn]> and therefore funny 17:37 <[Demo][srn]> slap stick comedy at its finest 17:38 nitro's save system isn't bad in practice 17:38 but in theory it's broken 17:38 nitro, mind you 17:38 not the mess that is the 4.2 save system 17:38 In theory, theory and practice are the same, but not in practice. 17:38 that dyna has 17:38 nitro's save system is like brogue 17:38 a sum of game commands coupled with the RNG seed 17:38 now, if the game engine changes *in any way* 17:39 so it saves a replay? neat 17:39 then it's busted 17:39 FIQ: yea, starcraft 2 ships like 50 copies of the engine so replays work 17:39 however, nitro doesn't change frequently 17:39 and the save system is surprisingly stable in practice, not nearly as bad as some people claimed 17:39 ais523 took the save system 17:39 I'd defo call that a replay system 17:39 and added diffs 17:40 this created the NetHack 4.2 save system 17:40 now, the problem here 17:40 is that, whatever ais523 did 17:40 broke everything down 17:40 the save system only just barely works and has a tendency to corrupt itself 17:40 this is why a crashed dynahack game almost always lead to misery 17:40 Tariru was really lucky in this regard 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) averted death, on T:39923 17:41 ais523 eventually rewrote the save system 17:41 and added safeguards that checked the save diffs each action 17:41 and played it back 17:41 and saved again 17:41 to ensure consistency 17:41 this is called NH4's desync detector 17:41 <@rikersan\srn> wow, minotaurs are strong when you FORGET TO TURN OFF SLOW SPEED 17:41 this lead to what is now the NetHack 4.3 save system 17:41 <[Demo][srn]> yey 17:41 it started out being about as stable as the 4.2 one 17:41 <[Demo][srn]> fun lore 17:42 but now it works really well 17:42 and I rely on the way the 4.3 save system works 17:42 <@rikersan\srn> I am dumb as fuck 17:42 to not break save compat ever 17:42 a fh game from 2015 will still load in current fh versions 17:42 despite all new features, items, etc 17:42 this did however come with one drawback 17:43 NH4's replay mode is unusably slow 17:43 I attempted to fix this somewhat recently in FIQHack 17:43 which has a completely new replay mode 17:43 but it has its own set of issues 17:43 and has a tendency to crash 17:43 but the perf issues are gone 17:43 so once I get it stable 17:43 it should work well 17:44 <[Demo][srn]> full inventory identification 17:44 <[Demo][srn]> and enlightenment 17:44 <[Demo][srn]> what a cool perk 17:44 that is an entirely different issue 17:44 that stems from what NH4 calls recoverquit 17:44 <[Demo][srn]> ah 17:44 I re-enabled it in fh a while back to let people properly quit games that got stuck in limbo 17:45 then that bug happened 17:45 so I had to disable it again 17:45 <[Demo][srn]> how does a game get stuck in limbo? 17:45 ctrl+c in DYWYPI 17:45 <[Demo][srn]> ah 17:45 or hangup 17:45 same effect 17:45 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 17:46 <[Demo][srn]> before next jnh you should try to get a cool thing for watchers to see when the amulet is sacrificed 17:46 <[Demo][srn]> instead of just ending 17:46 I have something in replaymode for that 17:46 I should see if I can do something similar in watchmode 17:47 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 17:48 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 17:48 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:50 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 17:52 -!- lorimer has quit [Client Quit] 17:52 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 17:54 !tell K2 pushed a change: don't kick off watchers when a game is over 17:54 Will do, FIQ! 17:57 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed master key of thievery", on T:31389 18:07 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 18:10 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 magicbane", on T:31393 18:12 two wishes from the same fountain, booya 18:15 <[Demo][srn]> what 18:15 <[Demo][srn]> jesus wow 18:18 <@lapis/ootc> Go get a lottery ticket while you’re at it 😛 18:18 <[Demo][srn]> yeah lol 18:25 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: AntiGulp] 18:26 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:26 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 18:32 YASI: Fire vortices specifically don't make your oil lamp go out; they keep it ignited. 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh13d] ElanDeMain (Arc Mal), 50 points, T:44, acid blob 18:49 what is up with skeletons dropping eggs in this game 18:50 Graznop I have your save backed up. we'll have a look 18:50 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-06-19 17:54 EDT: pushed a change: don't kick off watchers when a game is over 18:51 also, your auto backup of the original save is about 30 min older than the current save, so worst case scenario, you'll be 30 min behind where you started experiencing issues 18:51 hmm no coredump 18:51 K2: I also looked around for a ttyrec and couldn't find one. 18:52 K2: it's not a crash, just a weird impossible 18:52 oh i see 18:52 lets check the paniclog 18:52 a potentially beneficial bug that allows you to wear "oR and "oLS at once :) 18:53 1529240536 Graznop: impossible select_off: a blessed amulet of reflection (being worn)??? 18:53 that's in there 7 times 18:53 yeah that was it 18:53 same timestamp too 18:53 Graznop if you wanted to keep playing, that's fine 18:53 I have a backup of your current save 18:54 IIRC, issue happened once, tried save and restore - no joy, so carried on playing for a bit. 18:54 hrm 18:54 -!- Tariru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00 <[Demo][srn]> thats a good bug 19:00 <[Demo][srn]> i support it 19:02 The 7 msgs are me trying to take the lovely thing off. 19:02 <@lapis/ootc> YASI: polymorph into a giraffe to wear multiple amulets at once 19:03 <[Demo][srn]> theres a long neck monster flag 19:03 Graznop: I wonder what happens if you drop it. 19:03 Dunno if related, but just prior had a bunch of armor destroyed by Lich, including a shield of refl 19:03 Oh, it probably wouldn't let you. 19:04 "You cannot drop something you are wearing" 19:04 <[Demo][srn]> obj->uwornmask & W_AMUL 19:04 <[Demo][srn]> or whatever it is 19:07 Good bug unfortunately now resolved - it let me take the amulet off 19:08 well we still want to know where the bug came from 19:09 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10 I will still try and reproduce (for debug and profit!) 19:11 K2, any idea why the Graznop userdata folder is empty (would be nice to see a ttyrec of the game)? 19:11 he's on EU server 19:11 look there 19:13 oh duh 19:15 its ok 19:15 i tend to search hdf-us first 19:16 oh you know what, this might be one of those curses bugs with the inventory reordering 19:16 Graznop were you in regular tty or curses mode? 19:16 curses (I'm replaying ttyrec) 19:16 curses 19:17 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 19:17 ahhh 19:17 ok 19:19 <[Demo][srn]> curses! 19:19 damnation! 19:19 tarnation! 19:19 dammit to hell! 19:20 and good day to you sir! I said good day 19:20 maybe we need a blessed ui mode? 19:21 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] pugilist (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7771 19:25 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29 Junethack: Wooble ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 19:29 Junethack: New user kenanbit registered! https://junethack.net/user/kenanbit 19:44 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 19:48 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] jmcunx (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2542 points, T:5393, killed by a fire ant, while fainted from lack of food 20:15 [hdf-us] [un] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Mal Law), 154 points, T:87, killed by a fox 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] dizzylizzy (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:18913 20:30 "MITRE" showed up on the NYT crossword the other day 20:30 thought of nethack 20:31 <[Demo][srn]> i think of CVEs :P 20:38 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7196 20:49 Third time's the charm 20:49 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 20:54 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 21:01 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 21:04 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] IceBox (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3289 points, T:4078, killed by a soldier ant 21:22 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 21:25 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:35 -!- zid` has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:36 -!- zid has joined #hardfought 21:38 FIQhack updated (all servers) 21:38 huzzah fixed my internet 21:39 apparently the modem needed rebooting, weird 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:32958 21:40 zid: not uncommon 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:40735 21:41 K2: It not working is one thing, but slow speeds and weirdness is 21:41 another 21:42 It was still connecting and routing and stuff fine, it was just capping out at 60Mbit and not sustaining the speed well etc, I'm the only client on it so it wasn't a shitty arp table implementation or anything I can think of 21:42 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:42008 21:52 <[Demo][srn]> ndnh cavemen are gonna be so badass 21:52 <[Demo][srn]> riker r u going for all 9? 21:52 <@rikersan\srn> tried to tame her like 10 times 21:52 <@rikersan\srn> and I'm planning on it yes 21:52 <@rikersan\srn> I'm debating whether or not to bother with chaos tho 21:52 <@rikersan\srn> maybe for 1/2 phys dmg, but i have MR and the other 3 21:52 <[Demo][srn]> well i did it last year so i had to do it again this year 21:53 <@rikersan\srn> demo: that's a greatly needed buff, have you seen what chris did with the chromatic dragon holy fuck 21:53 <@rikersan\srn> you konw you have issues when your nemesis is also a honorary demon lord 21:53 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 21:53 <[Demo][srn]> also making the sceptre of might a spear 21:53 <@rikersan\srn> hm 21:53 <@rikersan\srn> tha'ts not bad 21:53 <@rikersan\srn> maybe just make it like a maul or something, a better mace 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33881 21:54 <[Demo][srn]> nope 21:54 <[Demo][srn]> spears for cavemen are incredibly strong 21:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Brd Clk Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:42031 21:54 <[Demo][srn]> put like a fossile dark or dilithium crystal point on there 21:54 <[Demo][srn]> and kick some ass 21:55 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 21:55 <[Demo][srn]> thinking maybe quest leader should give you the sceptre 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> I've got all law, neu 2/3, and no chaos right now 21:55 <[Demo][srn]> to go recover the scales 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> oooh I like that idea 21:55 <[Demo][srn]> neu 3/3 becomes very easy with numina 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> well 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> the dude hasn't spawned yet 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> I haven't seen him all game soooo 21:55 <[Demo][srn]> he spawns all the time 21:55 <@rikersan\srn> ikr 21:55 <[Demo][srn]> 1/100 spawns are him 21:56 <@rikersan\srn> I've found him on ana home ffs 21:56 <@rikersan\srn> I don't know where he is tho 21:56 <[Demo][srn]> with numina you'll see him 21:56 <@rikersan\srn> if he's spawned 21:56 <@rikersan\srn> I'm a bard not a binder lol 21:56 <[Demo][srn]> oh 21:56 <[Demo][srn]> i read wrong then 21:56 <[Demo][srn]> ouch 21:56 <[Demo][srn]> well good luck 21:57 <[Demo][srn]> uh what chris buffed the sceptre even more? 21:58 <@rikersan\srn> really? 21:58 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 21:58 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:58 <@rikersan\srn> I'm a clck binder fwiw, pets are aurumach/tulani/surya+blade 21:58 <[Demo][srn]> yes its nuts now 21:58 <@rikersan\srn> I tried for oona 10x, taming + 9x lyre invoke 21:58 <@rikersan\srn> what now? 21:58 <[Demo][srn]> proper double dmg, gop effect, spfx ram 21:58 <@rikersan\srn> I'm thikning of trying for a throne archon? idk 21:59 <@rikersan\srn> oh cool 21:59 <[Demo][srn]> im sorry spfx_ram 21:59 <[Demo][srn]> this is insane 21:59 <@rikersan\srn> fwiw, any more good pets? 21:59 <@rikersan\srn> I'm thinking of just collecting tulani or maybe throne archons 21:59 <@rikersan\srn> throne archons have nice arti weapons i guess 21:59 <[Demo][srn]> maybe yeah 21:59 <@rikersan\srn> I still need to do some farming and enchant my + their gear 22:00 <@rikersan\srn> RIP the easy days when I could give them all the Tower's shiere CPM and call it good 22:00 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 22:02 <[Demo][srn]> gonna take off spfx2_ram and call it good 22:03 <@rikersan\srn> lol 22:03 "You fall into a pit! Fortunately it has a bottom after all..." <-- stop scaring me, nethack 22:03 <@rikersan\srn> anyway I'm leaving now, lmk any clck tips/bard tips you have (notably, I have a scrap but no upgrade kits, I've found only one this game and used for extra spring) 22:04 <[Demo][srn]> just always be double speed and phasing 22:04 <[Demo][srn]> and have your magic whistle ready to call over your winding friend(s) 22:11 <[Demo][srn]> how unreasonable is it for the game to be made unwinnable if you kill every quest friendly and the leader and destroy a base item you need? 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:35412 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35422 22:19 <@lapis/ootc> what's that about changing out spear tips? 22:20 <@lapis/ootc> the sceptre still looks vanilla on the wiki 22:21 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:12363 22:22 <[Demo][srn]> yeah the wiki entry for the sceptre is wrong 22:23 <[Demo][srn]> but in ndnh you can put on a number of special gem speartips to spears as a caveman to get it to do other stuff 22:23 <@lapis/ootc> ndnh? different than dnh? 22:23 <[Demo][srn]> yeah its notdnethack 22:24 <@lapis/ootc> huh, that's new 22:24 <[Demo][srn]> its a dumber variant 22:24 <@lapis/ootc> to me at least, probalb not new to everyone else 22:25 <[Demo][srn]> these poor people have had to deal with my stupidty already, yes 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:36646 22:26 <@lapis/ootc> any chance of that caveman change making its way into dnh? that sounds really cool, along with the guaranteed CDM 22:27 <[Demo][srn]> CDM is in dnh for cavemen 22:28 <[Demo][srn]> ndnh will probably be on some public server by the end of the year maybe 22:28 <@lapis/ootc> i know, but it's better than the sceptre of might, which is a little weird 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13042 22:28 <[Demo][srn]> the dnh sceptre of might might be better 22:29 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29 <[Demo][srn]> it gives str, dbl dmg, slotles conflict and mr, and does knockback 22:30 <@lapis/ootc> ah, that is pretty good then 22:30 <[Demo][srn]> I'm thinking of doing some sort of reallllly out there sort of alternative endings for roles 22:30 <[Demo][srn]> other ways to ascend 22:30 <[Demo][srn]> with the idea of good/neutral/evil paths 22:30 <[Demo][srn]> neutral being just running the amulet for your god like normal 22:30 <[Demo][srn]> evil usually doing something to gain insane power yourself 22:31 <[Demo][srn]> and good probably fixing some corrupted establishment 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21268 22:31 <@lapis/ootc> Huh 22:32 <[Demo][srn]> for example binder you do some action that initiates the evil run and you start to get more and more spirit slots until you bind every spirit at once or something and enslave them all and absorb the amulet 22:33 <@lapis/ootc> murder the quest giver? 22:33 <[Demo][srn]> nah thats already a thing sort of for drows 22:33 <[Demo][srn]> that might trigger it for some maybe 22:33 <[Demo][srn]> where the quest giver matters 22:33 <[Demo][srn]> in a morality sense 22:34 <[Demo][srn]> but drows already have traitorism that changes their alignment and they get other stuff 22:35 <[Demo][srn]> ok gonna make their quest artifact the scales 22:35 <[Demo][srn]> but the quest is really about slaying the beast 22:45 <@lapis/ootc> could have sworn you could use sheaves of hay to feed horses 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:22189 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37745 23:16 <[Demo][srn]> slashem removes the rogue tribute level, right? 23:16 <[Demo][srn]> i swear something does 23:18 Junethack: New user easysong registered! https://junethack.net/user/easysong 23:20 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:22774 23:24 <[Demo][srn]> hmm i need to avoid taking much but bugfixes from upstream 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16229 23:34 <@lapis/ootc> polymorphed pets won't change back like you will, do they 23:41 <[Demo][srn]> in slashem they will 23:41 <[Demo][srn]> in nethack, no 23:42 <@lapis/ootc> dnh, so i'm assuming no 23:44 <[Demo][srn]> nope 23:48 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:49 -!- Pavel\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:50 -!- lynn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Mon Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:18269 23:53 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:24494 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24496 23:58 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]