00:01 The class I'm playing in slex has guaranteed unnavigable quest levels :( 00:01 This paniclog is so weird. None of these mndx values have any relation to one another, from what I can tell. My best guess is I called rndmonst somewhere without fully understanding the implications, but I have no idea when I actually called that (if at all) 00:02 could it be from your hybrid monster code? 00:03 I think it is. Ooooh that’s going to be nasty to debug 00:03 I think I'm going to basically be forced to return to my stash for a pickax 00:07 crapcrapcrap beholder 00:09 hi 00:09 Hello bouquet, Welcome to #hardfought 00:10 K2 any headway in any of those curses bugs? Should I keep trying to break things? 00:10 that's a Tangles question. I think he's made some 00:11 got it. Wasn't I talking to you about the gems not being counted when ascended? 00:11 yes 00:11 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 6652 points, T:2245, killed by a monster (the elder priest of Queen Serenity), while paralyzed by a monster's gaze 00:12 wha 00:12 Ok so I (think) I have an idea about the paniclog. If I’m looking at this correctly, rndmonst always seems to be enclosed within a loop that tries to generate something an arbitrary number of times. In my code, I just call it a single time. This doesn’t explain why the weird case labeled “this should never happen” is happening though. 00:12 hi bouquet. I wrote a small patch to fic the full-ID bug, but I have not pushed it yet, as I believe the devteam are working on a more complete fix. 00:13 !tell AmyBSOD\srn Stop giving random enemies the e gaze ability. 00:13 Will do, Lymia! 00:13 "Lymia: No." <-- her response 00:13 bouquet: I don't know what the deal with the gems at endgame is. They were in a container, right? 00:13 I haven't looked at that yet. 00:13 affirmative 00:14 no skin off my back. I just want to help make the curses UI more awesomer. 00:15 <@luxidream> what is the new junethack trophy 00:15 Yeah this is appreciated :) 00:15 die to vlad and asmo as fast as possible (and also newt and shit) 00:15 <@luxidream> “Lowest sum of turns getting killed by specific monsters” 00:15 thanks bouquet 00:15 I tried a bunch but I kept getting hostile titans 00:15 K2: Ok, so I think I can solve the paniclog bug in splicehack by calling rndmonnum and using that to generate monsters, since rndmonst looks really unsafe to use and rndmonnum encapsulates it in some safer code. Going to make a quick hotfix. 00:16 ok 00:16 i havent put 0.3.1 on hdf yet, so i will once you push this new hotfix 00:16 <@luxidream> what specific monsters are included? 00:17 K2: What's "You hear an ominous noise."? 00:17 <@luxidream> ah 00:17 <@luxidream> found it 00:17 I can't find that in the source anywhere. 00:17 aosdict\ito its something ominous 00:18 guess where I am. 00:18 Oracle HQ in Redwood CA 00:18 well it can't be beholders, I just genocided them 00:18 zombie dragon 00:18 you("hear %s noise", noise_type == OMINOUS ? "an ominous" : "a dog exploding"); 00:19 a dog exploding noise? 00:19 are these on the grunthack-dgl branch? 00:20 aosdict\ito: Yeah all K2's changed are on the dgl branch. I haven't back-merged them to master yet. 00:20 there are merge conflicts ahhhh 00:21 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:21 bouquet, Trying to find Moloch's Sanctum? :o 00:22 time to slay asmo then call it a night 00:22 if you die to asmo, die to vlad too 00:22 so we get the trophy :P 00:22 Lymia thank you for helping me get to the nethack tie-in with that. I could decide if this is Rodney's tower or the sanctum. 00:23 [hdf-us] [gh] aosdictj (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:27232 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 764 points, T:2014, killed by a dwarf 00:28 !lastgame bouquet 00:28 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nh361/dumplog/1528517658.nh361.txt 00:33 [hdf-us] [4k] nalnksdblaksldb (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:103 00:34 coaligned random temple o.o 00:34 [hdf-us] [4k] nasndbklnklasdbsa (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:117 00:37 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 00:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 00:37 [hdf-us] [4k] knnsakdbnlnksdalbsa (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:54 00:38 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 00:40 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40 [hdf-us] [4k] lasdnbknsdab (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:15 00:40 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-us] [4k] nnadslbnklsdanbas (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:86 00:42 hmmm now what 00:43 [hdf-us] [4k] asdbnnnasdbksadb (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:100 00:44 [hdf-us] [4k] asbknsnadblansdb (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:89 00:45 [hdf-us] [4k] naklsdbnklasdknblkasdb (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:64 00:46 K2: I am doubtful that this fixed the specific bug in the paniclog (because there should be absolutely no way that statement is hit ever, and rndmonst is called really often) but I think things are a lot safer now, and I fixed a few other bugs. 0.3.1 should be good to go. 00:46 ok thanks AntiGulp 00:47 i will get on it right now 00:47 need a break from saccing 00:47 AntiGulp: Do you have anything on how to play the new races and roles - eg: merfolk, DragonMaster? I can't find anything on the wiki. 00:48 [hdf-us] [4k] nnaklsdbnklansdb (Luxidream) (Arc Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:90 00:49 I do (and should def add that to the wiki!) hold on a sec 00:51 cheers :) 00:51 Infernal characters are absolute powerhouses in melee because of hungerless regeneration. The only scary thing with them is that because of changes to silver weapons, any monster wielding a silver weapon is potentially very deadly, and that’s not even mentioning the presence of silver golems in the endgame. 00:52 Angels get flying, which seems overpowered, except that all unique demons are automatically hostile to them. Because of the new unique demons in splicehack and buffs to existing ones, this makes their gehennom potentially pretty hairy. 00:54 Lycanthropes suck, and Merfolk are better than they might seem because of the underground rivers patch (their ability scores still stink though). 00:54 Are there any restrictions on item use (eg merfolk wearing boots)? 00:55 The only restrictions are that infernals can’t handle silver weapons (I don’t think lycanthropes can, but I’m not positive), and Dragonmasters cannot wear dragon scales / mail. 00:55 [hdf-us] [4k] nasdblknasdnb (Luxidream) (Tou Scu Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:94 00:56 ah right. That last one is important. 00:56 since my dragonmaster picked up an early WoW. 00:56 oooh yeah 00:56 guess I won't be wishing for SDSM :) 00:56 Basically, the next update I do is going to be focused on fleshing roles out a lot more and making them more fun. 00:57 Do dragonmasters have any special abilities wrt taming dragons? 00:57 !who 00:57 K2: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] mighty [fh] IceBox [fh] hypnotist [nh361] Luxidream [4k] 00:57 K2: [hdf-eu] Muad [sp] 00:57 K2: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 00:58 They absolutely SHOULD, but as of right now no :( 00:58 I might add that actually, that sounds fun 00:58 ok cool. So gotta keep the starting pet alive :) 00:58 Save the dragons :D 00:58 I noticed they tend to take on shopkeepers before they are ready. 00:59 which is kind of a downside because you can't safely bring them into a shop to steal stuff. 01:00 I’ll have to look into that, it’s definitely not intentional difficulty 01:00 nah it'll be vanilla baby dragon behaviour 01:00 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:02 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:17 Gonna catch some Zs, source dive later 01:17 'night AntiGulp 01:18 ...and thanks. 01:18 :) 01:18 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: explodes into confetti] 01:18 Splicehack Tip of the Day: Extra wishes? Try wishing for Vladsbane. 01:18 Um... no. 01:22 In the end, the machines will win, this is all pointless 01:22 let's just end it all 01:22 tip of the day was the first thing I turned off even if most tips were really new things 01:25 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 01:25 * raisse\splat prays to Anhur that he will keep her from stupidly stepping into water. 01:28 ooh there's the portal 01:28 gone again 01:28 !who 01:28 K2: [hdf-us] winny [nh13d] Lymia [slex] IceBox [fh] mighty [fh] richards [un] 01:28 K2: [hdf-eu] GagarinX [nh361] Raisse [xnh] 01:28 K2: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] Grasshopper [nh361] 01:30 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:32 wooo 01:34 !who 01:34 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] winny [nh13d] Lymia [slex] IceBox [fh] mighty [fh] richards [un] 01:34 bug_sniper: [hdf-eu] GagarinX [nh361] Raisse [xnh] 01:34 bug_sniper: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] Grasshopper [nh361] 01:37 astral splat imminent 01:37 I pissed off the high priest of Ptah by breaking a wand of teleport I thought was empty 01:38 argh completely forgot my emergency scroll 01:38 my emergency bag 01:39 does scare monster work on astral at all? 01:39 it's not even a unique death because elenmirie\splat got killed by the high priest of moloch 01:40 oh no :( 01:41 !lastgame 01:41 raisse\splat: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nhfourk/dumps/2018-06-09%2005%3A10%3A30%2C%20nansdnklasdb-Tou-Scu-Fem-Neu%2C%20died.txt 01:41 raisse\splat: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/xnethack/dumplog/1528359050.xnh.txt 01:41 raisse\splat: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/splicehack/dumplog/1528516343.splice.txt 01:42 I don't see why I couldn't pray, Anhur wasn't angry or anything 01:42 and the last time I prayed I was still in the dungeon making holy water 01:43 does breaking all conducts count, or only for an ascension? 01:46 no I'm fairly sure any game can count for all conducts. 01:46 well, that's something at least (as well as another medusa kill) 01:47 kill something with a weapon, have it drop poly, zap it at your wand of wishing, then yourself 01:47 oh and eat it 01:47 did I forget anything 01:53 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 01:53 -!- cherryh.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Junethack 2018!! 01:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 01:53 hi 01:53 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 01:53 god damnit beholder he's been here before 01:53 at least twice before 01:54 hey 01:54 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 01:54 !who 01:54 K2: [hdf-us] winny [nh13d] Luxidream [dyn] Lymia [slex] IceBox [fh] monstergrin [dnh] richards [un] 01:54 K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh343] GagarinX [nh361] 01:54 K2: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] Grasshopper [nh361] 01:54 alrighty 01:54 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 01:54 version bump to 0.3.1 01:56 oh wow 01:56 I need to stop playing now, and never ever start again. 01:57 I'll just save that wand up and see what I need.... and die to a fox. 01:58 how do you die to a fox with a dragon pet 01:58 ooh snap 01:58 :( 01:58 Lymia: that is a very good question 01:59 I displaced the dragon to the fox, the fox ran around it and killed me while the dragon did... not much. 01:59 I did not want to risk prayer just after wishing. 01:59 The lower gnome priest swings his cockatrice corpse. 01:59 amy is evil 01:59 but in hindsight it could not have gone worse. 01:59 -!- greqrg_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00 anyway, no WoW bones. it all happened on DL1. 02:08 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 02:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 02:10 [hdf-us] [fh] icebox (IceBox) (Val Hum Fem Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:32675 02:12 I have an unidentified autocursing grey stone. Of which there are a bunch in slex :c 02:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha) averted death, on T:9837 02:24 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha), 28698 points, T:9852, killed by a monster (blighting skeleton) 02:30 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 12036 points, T:1, escaped 02:30 wha 02:30 oh 02:32 [hdf-us] [fh] Snailtrail (mighty) (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 61560 points, T:8667, killed by a troll 03:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:10459 03:05 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 03:06 K2: The splicehack thing is (hopefully) fixed on the scoreboard. 03:06 Mandevil\splat: Message from Elronnd\srn at 2018-06-08 02:41 EDT: oh?? It's not like you have an obligation to maintain the scoreboard -- nor do I/amy have an obligation to maintain or provide logs. So I don't see as you have any right to get upset when you specifically ask if I can provide the old logs separately and then I do. Anyway, logs are there :) 03:07 WTF Elronnd? 03:10 * raisse\splat completed 3.4.3 sokoban 03:14 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 03:15 !tell lorimer I think I see why Demonbane is not a priest's guaranteed first sac gift. the entry for it in include/artilist.h does not include PM_PRIEST. gonna run some tests on my test build, see what happens when I add PM_PRIEST where I think it should go 03:15 Will do, K2! 03:15 Mandevil\splat cool thanks 03:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 5911 points, T:2782, zapped himself with a spell 03:30 !tell lorimer yup that was it, pushing a fix here soon 03:30 Will do, K2! 03:48 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:58 -!- raisse\splat is now known as Guest60618 03:59 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 04:02 -!- Guest60618 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:02 SporkHack updated (all servers) 04:06 K2: How do you deploy so quickly? 04:07 i've done it so many times now 04:07 muscle memory i guess 04:07 and i'll have three terminal sessions open at once (for each server) 04:08 I see. 04:08 the script Tangles wrote to install after compile helps a lot 04:08 -!- ibex81 has joined #hardfought 04:08 'make install' could do it but you wind up erasing all logs and saves and such prior 04:11 W - an uncursed silver mace named Demonbane. 04:11 rofl... finally 04:12 before that was werebane, vorpla blade and cleaver 04:12 vorpal 04:13 and none of those weapon skills became unlocked available after sac gift given 04:13 dunno if thats a bug or intended 04:15 !tell lorimer priest gets vorpal blade, werebane and cleaver as sac gifts, but none of those weapon skills became unlocked to train. is that a bug or by design? 04:15 Will do, K2! 04:15 ok that's enough msg spam to lorimer for tonight ;) 04:15 gnite all 04:32 !tell Elronnd\srn Added the new xlogfiles. 04:32 Will do, Mandevil\splat! 04:38 Junethack: New user Ibex81 registered! https://junethack.net/user/Ibex81 04:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 04:41 Junethack: Anerag ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 04:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:57 So 04:57 Why don't shopkeeps care 04:57 when you barge into their closed shops through means other than breaking the door 04:59 because if you teleport in they won't have to pay for repairs 05:06 why is the first floor of mines a rooms and cooridors layout 05:06 filled with rs 05:23 aaah 05:23 earlygame wish in slex. I don't know what to do 05:27 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:3379 05:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:28 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:28 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 05:31 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 05:35 . 05:35 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from Lymia at 2018-06-09 00:13 EDT: Stop giving random enemies the e gaze ability. 05:35 Lymia: what is the "e gaze ability"? 05:35 hi 05:35 Hello Lymia, Welcome to #hardfought 05:36 Para on it 05:36 hit* 05:36 well that was not a random enemy, that was probably one of my bones files where I tried to fight the elder priest 05:37 Isn't "by a monster's gaze" only a passive? I didn't realize I had major problems in the room until I got para'd :D 05:38 no, regular SLASH'EM already has rhaumbusuns 05:38 it's a gaze attack, as in "monster sees you, monster gazes at you and bam you're paralyzed" 05:39 ... why were you doing that on dlvl, like, 5 :D 05:40 because I want that trophy of course! 05:40 i seee :D 05:41 ugh I fear it's just not worth it 05:42 I'll never beat the elder priest in a reasonable amount of time and I'll just litter the mines with deadly bones levels in my attempts 05:42 Wait. On hdf-us? 05:42 bones are shared between the hdf servers I think 05:42 ah 05:43 * AmyBSOD\srn attempts xnethack, hopefully it won't spontaneously update its versions and break my save this time 05:44 wow aosdict\ito you changed it to SLASH'EM's "what do you want to eat" menu? awesome!!! all other variants should also do this :D 05:45 now please allow us to #force in a direction! 05:45 oh and I want an option to make statues look like statues again 05:46 as long as that is not done, 3.6.x will always be a variant and not vanilla for me :P 05:46 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 05:49 I wonder if I got a game with extra scrolls of wishing spawns. I found two on one dlvl. And have no idea what to do with the second. :D 05:49 (Let's see how I screw this one up) 05:50 keep it until there's somehting you really need? 05:51 I suppose 05:51 I'm tempted to artiwish though 05:51 Since I haven't seen any spawn 05:51 scrolls of wishing are of course ineligible for the "item that spawns more often" routine 05:52 slex also changes artiwishing chances, i.e. the chance of success doesn't decrease as rapidly to accomodate the greater amount of artifacts generated 05:53 I thought I found ID, considering I had a two stack... 05:53 (or enchant weapon) 05:56 oh god how do I change it so that xnethack engravings don't look like amulets? 05:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] dizzylizzy (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:30463 06:03 AmyBSOD\srn: wiki says put OPTIONS=S_engraving:newglyph in your rc (and I suppose "newglyph" should be what you want an engraving to look like) 06:03 O 06:03 I'd make it ~ or something 06:03 then the only thing you can confuse with an engraving is the vibrating square 06:03 man I'd like to simply make it · 06:03 or : because those aren't lizards any more anyway 06:03 but if I try to paste that in, I get ∩┐╜ 06:04 perhaps if you put the hex code? 06:04 well it doesn't have any effect anyway, no matter what I put there :( 06:04 OPTIONS=S_engraving:$ 06:05 engravings still look like amulets 06:09 xcept for color 06:09 well I come from slex where amulets can have all kinds of colors, so... 06:09 webs also look like amulets :( 06:09 oh riiight 06:09 if you want an even playing field, just use OPTIONS=!color 06:14 -!- ibex81 has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 06:16 Are implants in slex entirely randomized? 06:16 In effects 06:16 quite so, yes 06:17 * AmyBSOD\srn enters playerkilloban where the prize level will count as dungeon level 14 despite being level 6 and where no early-game player character can survive :P 06:20 ? 06:20 3.6.x changes sokoban rules in that regard 06:21 normally, if the top level of sokoban is level 6, it counts as dungeon level 6, but in 3.6.x it counts as if the branch was going down instead of up, making it much harder 06:21 combine this with xnethack's "funny" changes to the sokoban zoo, and you end up in situations where you have to survive the attacks of three mumaks per turn in order to get to the prize 06:22 not if you fight in the corridor 06:22 I made it to slex sokoban once 06:23 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 06:23 to find an amulet of reflection 06:23 I already had a source of reflection 06:24 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:28 Of COURSE xnethack is yet another one of the "lol nope you can't restore stats via unihorn" variants! 06:28 I feel so good about this game I'mma try to do gehennom superfast, just wish up magic markers and magic map the crap out of it 06:28 stupid full work shfit 06:34 Just like yours, huh :p 06:37 yaaaaaaaay! woohoo Tariru, a trophy that few others will get! :) 06:40 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by AmyBSOD! 06:40 huh, I did? yay! 06:41 I'll get gud some day! :P 06:43 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:46 hm 06:46 Does unique deaths count variant specific ones? 06:46 yes, but slex's "killed by a monster " don't because otherwise it would be ridiculous with 18k species 06:47 aha :D 06:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:25618 06:57 lol there was a jabberwock on this sokoban level 07:03 the hell how much does a copper elven shield weigh? 500??? 07:06 trophy get :P 07:07 !who 07:07 Lymia: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [sp] 07:07 Lymia: [hdf-eu] Tariru [slex] Dins [4k] AmyBSOD [xnh] 07:07 Lymia: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] Grasshopper [nh361] 07:08 I want to be able to call the scroll of scare monster on the ground in 3.6.x's sokozoo without requiring me to have one in my inventory and without having to pick it up 07:10 !tell raisse\splat In xnh plane of water, the behavior that prevents you from accidentally stepping into water still applies. Nothing to fear. 07:10 Will do, aosdict\ito! 07:10 AmyBSOD\srn: [backscroll] thank fiq for the getobj menus 07:11 ok 07:11 AmyBSOD\srn: [backscroll] you can also set S_web:^ or something 07:11 !tell FIQ many thanks for helping aosdict\ito get a SLASH'EM-style eating menu when corpses are on the ground! much appreciated, every variant should implement that :) 07:11 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 07:11 OPTIONS=S_engraving:. 07:12 ^^ seems to do nothing 07:12 they still display as " for me :( 07:12 AmyBSOD\srn: [backscroll] Strange, this is the first criticism of the sokoban zoo I've heard. Most people seem happy that you're not dealing with intelligent monsters like sergeants and vampires. 07:12 aosdict\ito: how do I get this to work 07:13 works for me 07:14 argh 07:14 at least locally, and nothing has changed recently 07:14 it doesn't help me if it works locally... 07:14 !who 07:14 Lymia: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [sp] janne [nh361] aosdictj [xnh] 07:14 Lymia: [hdf-eu] Tariru [slex] Lymia [slex] Dins [4k] AmyBSOD [xnh] 07:14 Lymia: [hdf-au] Tangles [spl] Grasshopper [nh361] 07:14 yay 07:14 I got it to actually hup 07:15 I think 07:15 Lymia: you are hopefully aware of the fact that hanging up to hide a death from the logs is forbidden? I don't want you to be disqualified 07:15 nah :D 07:15 Trying to trigger the instadeath hup handler 07:15 AmyBSOD\srn: It also works on hdf. 07:16 In slex 07:16 But it won't actually save+restore 07:16 trying to cheat past a death via hangup doesn't work in slex, I made it so that even if it does save you in a non-dead state, you instadie upon loading the game again 07:16 Yeah 07:16 believe me, I spent lots of hours figuring out how to prevent hangup cheating in slex 07:16 Which is a unique death 07:16 :D 07:16 AmyBSOD\srn: do you use some non-ascii symset? 07:17 aosdict\ito: e - symset [IBMgraphics, active] 07:17 oh, the --More-- is probably after youaredead is already cleared 07:17 Probably need to use a different instadeath 07:21 AmyBSOD\srn: Well, can't really help there, that's the one symset that won't render in my terminal. I don't know if you need to put something different than an ascii character in there, I know it might be something like \xff or two other hex digits? Maybe? 07:21 ugh 07:22 although, the S_engraving:. still works in DECgraphics. 07:24 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:24 so, from your point of view, it's just ignoring that line entirely and leaving it on "? 07:25 Is it actually possible to trigger the instadeath hangup in slex? 07:25 AmyBSOD\srn: In your xnhrc, I don't see anything setting S_engraving. 07:25 The --More-- in insteadeath messages is displayed by the first call to the DYWYPI prompt, isn't it? 07:25 instadeath* 07:28 AmyBSOD\srn: if you turn autopickup off, stand on the scroll, and type-name something on the ground (. for "this place I'm standing on") you can typename it 07:28 raisse\splat: Message from aosdict\ito at 2018-06-09 07:10 EDT: In xnh plane of water, the behavior that prevents you from accidentally stepping into water still applies. Nothing to fear. 07:29 and set an autopickup_exception for scare mosnter scrolls 07:29 aosdict\ito: whew thanks, I didn't realise 07:29 won't be so scared next time 07:30 There we go! 07:30 AmyBSOD\srn: autopickup_exception=">.*scare.*" 07:30 aosdict\ito: not sure where you're looking, but in my xnethack config it should be there 07:30 OPTIONS=S_engraving:. 07:30 OPTIONS=S_web:^ 07:30 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/xnethack/AmyBSOD.xnhrc ? 07:31 unless the editor that is supposed to open the xnethack config really opens the config for some other variant 07:31 well I'm playing on hdf-eu 07:31 I'm certain it opens the xnethack config on hdf-eu because that's where mine is, too 07:31 which means that the us config is probably still the default 07:31 raisse\splat: oh it actually allows you to type-name things on the ground? niiiiiiice 07:32 no, at least your US config still contains the headdesk comment :P 07:32 yes, open the #name menu and you'll see 07:32 all of 3.6.* and variants of that does 07:32 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/xnethack/AmyBSOD.xnhrc 07:33 AmyBSOD\srn: OK, I can reproduce the " issue under ibmgraphics_1. 07:33 Have to go get food now but will take a look later. 07:33 so my syntax in the rcfile is correct? 07:34 oh well, I'll continue playing now 07:34 syntax is correct, but not sure how to persuade ibmgraphics to accept a symbol 07:35 Lymia: :D 07:35 nice one 07:35 That was the only easily accessible death I could find that could trigger the hup death too. 07:35 :c 07:35 Because it has multiple messages 07:36 "silver pick-axe" that certainly weighs many hundred units 07:37 also why does bone weigh so much 07:37 bone does weigh less than iron iirc 07:37 wood is lighter 07:38 is there a table with material modifiers? Elona has that, and it also allows almost every item to be of any random material 07:38 originally I had bone be pretty light and then people whined about how it's actually pretty dense 07:38 in my recent almost-ascension I had a bone pickaxe that I could leave in main inventory, when I had a regular pickaxe I had to put it in my BoH all the time 07:38 AmyBSOD\srn: you're welcome to make one on the wiki :) 07:38 raisse\splat: ooh I also want one of those! 07:39 otherwise look up matdensities, matac, matprices in the source 07:39 aosdict\ito: are bone pickaxes really lighter or was that an illusion? 07:39 those are the only modifiers 07:39 raisse\splat: certainly 07:39 AmyBSOD\srn: you might want a wooden pickaxe 07:39 someone even had a plastic one, now *that* is light 07:39 raisse\splat: plastic is only in grunt 07:40 xnh prevents plastic picks generating, or glass 07:40 it does do plastic poleamrs though 07:40 wtf lights beeline on the character now? I thought they moved randomly 07:40 anyway, really got to go now 07:40 and I had a plastic +4 dagger 07:40 but this yellow light moved up to me with laser-point accuracy and exploded 07:41 aosdict\ito: yaaaaaaaaaaay you implemented BUC-unknown items stacking onto BUC-known ones! 07:41 awesome isn't it? 07:41 and have you dropped a bag on an altar yet? 07:41 also it seems I got orctown ♥ 07:41 it buc-checks everything inside the bag so you can have your scrolls of scare monster buc-checked 07:45 wtf, I died and it's not displaying my death message?! 07:46