00:00 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1073 points, T:957, zombie 00:03 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] noty (Sam Ang Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:31660 00:12 [hdf-us] [spl] noty (Sam Ang Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31676 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 840 points, T:1365, giant ant 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 177 points, T:357, demon 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 70 points, T:75, hobgoblin 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 58 points, T:46, hobgoblin 00:23 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 00:27 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:34 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:42 -!- hf_guest_68980 has joined #hardfought 00:43 !lotg zid 00:43 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, zid! 00:44 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 00:44 -!- hf_guest_68980 has quit [Client Quit] 00:46 There, game with all conducts broken and a real ascension 00:48 3.4.3 is now complete for tin openers :) @ aosdict\ito 00:51 Junethack: zid ascended a game of NetHack 3.4.3 on eu.hardfought.org! 00:51 picked up highest scoring 3.4.3 too 00:54 woo 01:00 zid: Awesome! 01:01 grats zid! 01:01 no need, I phoned that one in :P 01:03 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:05 "The ogre clubs!" <-- that doesn't seem like a verb... 01:06 it does 01:06 I club seals all the time 01:06 but it doesn't really work without an object 01:07 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07 ok yeah it doesn't seem like an *intransitive* verb 01:07 It's similar to "The man dances." but it REALLY wants to have something he's clubbing to feel right 01:07 I vote we add seals. 01:08 I support that 01:10 for some reason the Kobold Yendorian Armory is descending on me 01:23 [hdf-us] [spl] noty (Sam Ang Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:34208 01:38 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:45 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:47 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:50 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 02:04 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 02:12 * NCommander deflates 02:13 . 02:13 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from @rikersan\srn at 2018-06-07 15:50 EDT: thank you so much for making chris pull that from dnhslex bundlebundlebundle 02:13 !tell rikersan\srn buuuuuuundlebundlebundle! :) 02:13 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 02:38 -!- Mandevil\splat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41 !tell mandevil\splat oh?? It's not like you have an obligation to maintain the scoreboard -- nor do I/amy have an obligation to maintain or provide logs. So I don't see as you have any right to get upset when you specifically ask if I can provide the old logs separately and then I do. Anyway, logs are there :) 02:41 Will do, Elronnd\srn! 02:53 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 03:00 wut there's already a 3.16.1 for dnethack??? I wonder what that does 03:02 let's see how many merge conflicts I get if I try to merge it into dnhslex 03:02 hmm, only four, I expected to see more :) 03:08 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 03:11 Chris_ANG: why is the "half-stone dragon" (a S_DRAGON) grouped with the snakes (S_SNAKE)? 03:11 -!- [Demo][srn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12 -!- [Demo][srn] has joined #hardfought 03:15 Chris_ANG: also, in wield.c you say "safelim == 5", this probably does nothing except returning TRUE; my guess is you want to use "safelim = 5" instead which sets safelim to 5 03:18 [Demo][srn]: I've merged 3.16.1 (yeah that actually exists now) into dnhslex. Resolved 4 sync conflicts. Seems to work. :) 03:24 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:25 noooooooou! 03:26 !tell Chris_ANG in wield.c you say "safelim == 5", this probably does nothing except returning TRUE; my guess is you want to use "safelim = 5" instead which sets safelim to 5 03:26 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 03:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:34 <@luxidream> !who 03:34 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] monstergrin [dnh] 03:34 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh4] farfar [nh343] Muad [sp] Mandevil [un] Raisse [xnh] 03:34 @luxidream: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 03:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:40 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:55 -!- zjmc__ has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:07 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:25 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:37 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 12145 points, T:11247, quit 04:44 ugh, so I woke up 4 hours early, and instead of trying to go back to bed I played nethack for an hour or two 04:44 guess who's gonna be tired at work :-/ 04:51 "Who's gonna be tired and has two ring slots?" 04:51 * dizzylizzy\ito points at self 04:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:55 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:56 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 04:59 Junethack: Achievement "Backpacking Tourist" unlocked by Tangles! 05:17 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21 -!- Muad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 05:29 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 05:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 05:34 whoa 05:34 3.4.3, polymorphed into a woodchuck 05:35 !lastgame 05:35 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/xnethack/dumplog/1528447234.xnh.txt 05:35 Grasshopper: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mandevil/un531/dumplog/1528370063.un531.txt.html 05:35 Grasshopper: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/sporkhack/dumplog/1528381169.sp.txt 05:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:59 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 05:59 aosdict\ito: compliments for xnh gehennom 05:59 a lot better than endless mazes 06:04 srsly 06:05 aos was saying how there were STILL too many mazes, but I think that comes from years and years amassing hatred for the existing gehennom 06:15 Oh wow, I guess in 3.4.3 the ninja on the quest levels for samurai didn't have copious shuriken 06:23 and my goodness, thanks for zapping your wand of magic missile instead of your wand of death, mr dwarf 06:23 I like my "oLS where it is thank u 06:44 oh no! I meant to die that time 06:44 Do I really have to play more slex? 06:44 what are you playing slex cor anyway? 06:45 s/cor/for/ 06:45 to curry favor 06:45 a trophy 06:45 oh right 06:45 oh yeah you are over 2k turns!! 06:45 and a unique death 06:45 you only need 1k anyway 06:45 i thought slex would be hardest to get that, but I kept dying SO hard in grunt 06:48 Tangles_: if you don't like lifesaving, maybe play a non-rodneyan race ;) or you can also answer no on the "come back to life" prompt 06:54 AmyBSOD\srn: I was waiting and waiting for the slime to take effect and I missed the prompt. 06:54 oh, yeah that was extended to 100 turns 06:54 I play rodneyan for the teleport-cheathing in sokoban ;) 06:54 *cheating 06:54 and did you get to the prize? 06:55 possibly. 06:56 I got a prize, but who knows if it was the real one? :) 06:56 the zoo was a graveyard. 06:56 if you got a full-screen message upon picking it up, it was the real one 06:57 yeah. 06:57 also it says so on the scoreboard :) 07:42 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:50 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 07:52 morning 07:55 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:00 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:02 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:18853 08:08 Junethack: New user ssjs registered! https://junethack.net/user/ssjs 08:11 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:13 does anyone know whether sporkhack monster generation is driven by dungeon level or experience level? 08:13 * hothraxxa pokes lorimer with a wand of enlightenment 08:14 i don't feel it's any different from vanilla (so, the average of the two) 08:14 hm. thanks 08:14 i did play a lot of spork way back 08:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 08:20 !tell AmyBSOD\srn The Half-stone dragons are grouped with the man-serpents, essentially because they are related and because the hsd was going back-and-forth between a proper 'D' and an 'S' that's just *called* a dragon. 08:20 Chris_ANG: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-08 03:26 EDT: in wield.c you say "safelim == 5", this probably does nothing except returning TRUE; my guess is you want to use "safelim = 5" instead which sets safelim to 5 08:20 Will do, Chris_ANG! 08:21 !tell AmyBSOD\srn The safelim thing has indeed caused a lot of problems. It's already fixed on the compat branch, though (the compat branches tend to get ahead of the development branches when it comes to bug fixes). 08:21 Will do, Chris_ANG! 08:25 Muad you should give sporkhack another spin 08:25 we've fixed some bugs 08:25 added some QoL bits 08:25 game mechanics are still the same 08:27 K2, currently doing it 08:27 cool 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13833 08:39 hothraxxa: it's generally the same as vanilla, with a few tweaks to provide a bit more of a 'push' to the player to keep moving; none of them are particuarly significant until you're on the ascension run 08:39 lorimer: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-03 04:53 EDT: it would be nice if dipping a wakizashi into a potion gives "covered by a thick layer of grease", it would either identify the potion or at the very least prompt me to name it! :( 08:39 lorimer: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-03 05:33 EDT: The gnome that runs the minetown tool shop must have quaffed gain level, becoming a gnome king, and now he no longer acts as a shopkeeper. I can take everything without getting charged. 08:39 lorimer: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-04 12:03 EDT: YANI: since sinks are items in spork and only weigh 1000, how about adding this if the player character tries to pick it up and is strong enough: "you rip the sink off the floor" "water floods the room!" 08:39 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:39 *blink* 08:39 clearly it is june :) 08:39 thanks lorimer 08:40 hah 08:40 bit more of a 'push' 08:40 get movin hothraxxa! go go go! 08:40 well, the original code makes the post-Oracle DLs and early Gehennom levels a bit boring :) 08:41 hah! i got levelported back to dlvl7 so i went to minetown to buy protection 08:41 the player's more than well enough kitted out to beat up the bigger stuff, so it should start showing up 08:41 my game hasn't been too nice to me in terms of resources 08:41 also amy's second message there looks like an actual bug -- the gain level potion swaps out the monster object, and the code for monster shopkeepers relies on hooking the original object with the shk extension 08:42 i assume magic markers can at least result from polymorph? 08:42 pretty sure that's still yes 08:42 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 67693 points, T:20901, killed by a soldier ant 08:42 oh i had two minetown shops that were unattended, sort of 08:42 is that intentional? 08:43 there was a mosnter there that would have been a shopkeeper, i.e. they had names 08:43 no, it's totally a bug, i never accounted for gain level doing that 08:43 i had forgotten/didn't realize that even peacefuls will gain-level themselves and it might change the monster type 08:44 pretty corner-case though, it took 9-10 years for someone to find it :) 08:44 heh 08:45 i'm sure it -happened- all the time, of course, but the player wouldn't have realized it.. they would've just found an empty shop 08:45 "Huh. Free lewtz. I wonder what killed the shk? *bag bag bag bag*" 08:45 it's not exactly empty. the former shopkeeper hangs around as a peaceful who doesn't care if you walk off with the inventory 08:46 i was ch 8 too, so i appreciated the opportunity 08:47 yeah, it's not the kind of thing that generates "possible bug???" reports 08:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tmasher (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25077 09:05 You can't seem to fit a dog eared spellbook into a large box; it's too full. 09:05 *facepalm* 09:08 -!- narkly has joined #hardfought 09:08 henlo people 09:09 is there a discord? 09:09 yes 09:09 #nethack-hardfought 09:09 cant find the link anywhere 09:09 oh thanks 09:10 and its bridges here 09:15 lorimer: wouldn't the eshk struct persist similar to a polymorphed shopkeeper, though? 09:27 it would if it was actually using the same struct, but ISTR that gain level basically creates a new monst object, schleps the inventory over, and drops it in place of the old one 09:27 <@Tone\ootc> narkly: Discord link https://discord.gg/mcCJEA 09:28 sorry -- gain level creates a new monst object -when the monster changes type as a result of level gain- 09:29 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 09:29 so a gnome that goes up a level and stays gnomely doesn't get this treatment... but a gnome that turns into a gnome lord/gnome king gets a new object. this is probably because someone didn't want to sort out all the effort of switching the permonst stuff manually and offloaded it onto the monster creation code :) 09:32 -!- narkly has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 09:32 ;) 09:35 -!- Mandevil\splat has joined #hardfought 09:36 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:39 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:40 hah nice, good way to deal with grunthack zombies: kill 'em on a graveyard level 09:41 wait since when did grunt have zombie dragons 09:41 oh, since K2 added them 09:42 i want to revist those 09:42 K2: where can I find information on zombie dragons 09:42 here 09:42 or 09:42 did you essentially copy them from splicehack? 09:42 its basically the same stats as the ones in splicehack, except they will behave the same as zombies in grunthack 09:43 they'll respawn, will try to eat your brains, etc 09:43 can make you sick 09:43 I don't think they'll actually eat your brain. 09:43 oh really 09:43 Unless you made it AT_BITE AD_DRIN instead of AD_PHYS. 09:43 take one on without a helmet ;) 09:44 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 09:44 go ahead 09:44 does tangles' repo have the code that's running on hdf? 09:44 of course 09:45 initial commit - https://github.com/NHTangles/GruntHack/commit/3b0a00fe3c41b84319a6b18a17a602de074a3035 09:46 its been tweaked since then 09:46 well I did just take a bite from one but nothing bad happened 09:46 it wont always happen 09:46 if you got sick or had brain eaten every single time they bit you, that'd be WAY op 09:48 grunt XL threshold is still 14? 09:48 yes 09:49 lovely 09:49 mysterious force still in effect too 09:49 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:50 guess I don't have anywhere to go except the castle then 09:50 got one level off a wraith but the next one gave me foodpois and I had to pray 09:51 no unihorn yet i take it 09:51 I found a unicorn but it's coaligned 09:51 no conflict or anything to get it killed 09:51 well I do have a bunch of unidentified rings, but I only had one scroll of id because the OTHERS GOT BLANKED 09:52 ;) 09:52 yeah grunthack can be a BITCH 09:53 oh look another coaligned unicorn 09:53 \o/ 09:53 actually this means I can kill one, soak the -5 luck, then toss gems at the other 09:54 that is, assuming I'm not forgetting that in grunthack killing a coaligned u sets luck to -13 or whatever 09:56 i dont think that's changed 09:57 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 09:57 well let's hope you're right, because I just killed it 09:58 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:59 You kill the master mind flayer! 09:59 this was bottom of the gnomish mines lorimer... wtf 09:59 :P 09:59 ah good, stalkers still have M2_STALK, as is right and proper 10:06 aosdict\ito: why do I have to keep confirming I want to step on sleeping gas traps when I've been sleep resistant forever? 10:07 raisse\splat: because the logic for immune_to_trap is a little incomplete 10:07 ah right 10:08 since this was a patch I hoped would make it into vanilla, I erred on the side of what the devteam would probably consider the least spoily 10:08 (I literally wanted to know why, because I read on the wiki page that you're not asked to confirm for traps you're immune to) 10:09 thus, if you have sleep resistance, the game doesn't keep track of whether you _know_ you have sleep resistance 10:09 *even if 10:10 ah, even if you've stepped on a sleeping gas trap before or been zapped with a sleep ray without effect 10:10 yes, there's nothing like fiqhack's system that keeps track of which intrinsics the player knows they have 10:10 in the case of sleep resistance, I don't think it's possible to have it and not know you got it. Well, starting Monks, I guess. 10:11 in fiqhack this is easy: warn of the trap if the player has sleep resistance but doesn't know they do, and don't warn them if the player has sleep resistance and knows it. 10:12 I'd like to eventually add this intrinsic knowledge tracking, but it doesn't currently exist. 10:15 ey K2 glad we fixed the gelatinous cube suffocation bug 10:15 yes thank you for that 10:15 it wasnt just the cube, it was anything that could engulf and suffocate you 10:15 aosdict\ito: you might have eaten an elf and missed the "You feel wide awake" message in between the message spam. 10:15 Hm, grunt's main unihorn nerf is that they're just hard to find, they don't degrade or anything like that, right? 10:16 but then the *adventurer* knows they've got it, only the player doesn't. 10:16 what? suffocation bug? how would that work? 10:16 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-06-08 08:20 EDT: The Half-stone dragons are grouped with the man-serpents, essentially because they are related and because the hsd was going back-and-forth between a proper 'D' and an 'S' that's just *called* a dragon. 10:16 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-06-08 08:21 EDT: The safelim thing has indeed caused a lot of problems. It's already fixed on the compat branch, though (the compat branches tend to get ahead of the development branches when it comes to bug fixes). 10:16 because I was suffocated by a "Gelatinouswürfel" in my grunthack run; was that one legitimate or bug? 10:16 raisse\splat: Yeah, but e.g. in fiqhack it would say "You must have gained sleep resistance." and the player would be assumed to have seen it. 10:16 ah right 10:16 aosdict\ito there are no alterations to the unihorn or frequency of unicorns in grunthack that I am aware of 10:16 AmyBSOD\srn: Gelatinous cubes can legitimately suffocate you in grunt. 10:16 you may just be having bad unicorn luck 10:17 The bug was that sometimes when you escaped from the cube, the strangulation timer would keep ticking. 10:18 ah 10:18 since I never got out of the cube in the first place, my death was legit then 10:18 this killed one of my early grunthack games, and I was so mad I wrote a patch to fix it :P 10:18 shall I add suffocation cubes to slex (y/n) :P 10:20 !tell Chris_ANG ah, I see. 3.16.1 is the most recent development branch? Because I merged that into dnhslex; I want to make sure I'm always on the most recent branch :) 10:20 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 10:21 aosdict\ito that bug had gotten me as well a couple times 10:21 that was a significant bug fix 10:22 man I *really* hate how this level generated 10:22 the rooms are connected in an elongated c shape, so to get from one end to the other you need to go all the way to the left of the level, then all the way across the top and down to the bottom right 10:24 I had a level like that and just dug a corridor 10:24 oh 10:24 oh my 10:24 this bookstore 10:24 :D 10:24 my wand of digging charges are too valuable 10:24 every time I find an enemy with a wand of digging it uses up all the charges before I can get there :-) 10:25 ugh 10:26 cast x-healing on myself which made me weak, then I got about 2 turns before I fainted. 10:27 :/ 10:28 I just needed 1 more turn to displace the dog between me and the yeti, then eat, but it was not to be. 10:30 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 28799 points, T:1981, killed by a giant ant 10:35 I have lots adn lots of wands of digging from the minotaurs who never use them 10:35 send most to the stash by thiefstone because I know I'll have more before I use up the two spares in my bag 10:35 also, I dug the corridor with my little bone pickaxe. 10:36 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 25067 points, T:1322, killed by a little dog 10:36 yeah, the open areas mean a little less digging is needed, but even in vanilla, I didn't bother with pickaxing my way across Gehennom, I just used the dig wands, and had plenty of spares left over 10:37 K2: I wonder what the flavor is for the inhabitants of a throne room tolerating bloodthirsty zombies among their ranks. 10:37 they dont 10:37 also, apparently Mjollnir's lightning doesn't wake up other monsters 10:38 if zombies spawn in a throne room and the inhabitants wake up, they'll fight 10:38 same with a zoo 10:38 K2: yeah but why is the zombie generated there in the first place, is what I mean 10:38 because grunt is evil 10:39 well that's not really that evil to the player... it's evil to its own monsters 10:39 i like it... adds an extar dynamic to the game that didnt exist prior 10:39 Oh sure, I like undead grudging living. 10:39 and some of those inhabitants will be converted over to being a zombie 10:39 *extra 10:39 Just seems weird that all the inhabitants of the throne room would peacefully fall asleep with a zombie in the room 10:39 * K2 shrugs 10:40 ah, grunthack and its minetown zombiecalypse scenarios :D 10:41 the mjollnir thing is in vanilla too 10:41 that's silly, I'm going to fix it 10:41 i once witnessed an epic three way battle between a bunch of gnome/dwarf zombies, a band of hill orcs and a small group of green elves 10:42 who won? 10:42 the elves prob would have won 10:42 i didnt wait, i jumped in and started killing everything 10:42 needed sleep res ;) 10:43 oh.. and because of racial grudge, dwarf/elf zombies will attack orc zombies and vice versa 10:43 its glorious 10:47 apparently I was fighting those bees with a stick of liquorice 10:47 !lastgame 10:47 Tangles_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/groovejumper/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-06-08%2014%3A36%3A06%2C%20groovejumper-Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha%2C%20died.txt 10:47 Tangles_: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/f/farfar/nh343/dumplog/1528456546.nh343.txt 10:47 Tangles_: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/xnethack/dumplog/1528468042.xnh.txt 10:47 Junethack: Sakusen ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 10:56 Junethack: New user CapraRoyalr registered! https://junethack.net/user/CapraRoyalr 10:57 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha), 7104 points, T:4167, killed by a shotgun shell 11:04 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha) received Stormbringer from Huan Ti, on T:7659 11:05 Junethack: New user CapraRoyale registered! https://junethack.net/user/CapraRoyale 11:10 TROPHY GET! 11:13 I'm new, but what am I missing when I spawn in a room without doors and no paths? 11:13 Search. 11:13 20s should suffice to find anything in the 8 squares around you; move around the walls 20s-ing every spot. 11:13 After a while you get a feel for secret doors 11:14 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 48018 points, T:9259, killed by a dwarf lord 11:16 ah okey 11:17 lesson learned: don't nethack while doing system upgrades 11:20 thx :) 11:20 heh 11:21 I keep having to remind myself, in this game, a vampire bat is NOT going to turn into a vampire and start biting at me 11:24 so i sit on the castle throne and my vision becomes clear, will that now be permanent in spork? 11:24 hmm 11:24 not sure 11:24 i want to say yes 11:24 i'm inclined to yes also 11:25 it's a gift from god, amirite? 11:25 are throne gifts treated the same as coming from saccing? 11:25 no idea 11:25 not sure who's behind the throne 11:26 bwahahaha Loki is making me pay for my indiscretion... by sending a succubus ;) 11:26 he's saying fuck you 11:27 lorimer - I thought the first sac gift for a priest in sporkhack was demonbane? 11:27 Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! An object appears at your feet! The voice of The Lady booms: "Use my gift wisely!" You have a little trouble lifting N - an uncursed silver saber named Werebane. 11:27 the wiki lies 11:28 The first sac gift should be demonbane, unless of course it was generated somewhere already... 11:28 i'm only on dlvl 6 11:28 mines were cleared, didnt see it there 11:28 Hm 11:28 i've had three sacrifice gifts and still no mjollnir 11:29 hothraxxa: yeah, the vision intrinsic should be permanent 11:29 excellent! 11:29 I feel like my mjollnir should do extra damage against this water elemental 11:29 make it so 11:30 I'm actually a little puzzled that it gave you a saber, a priest shouldn't be getting edged weapons even from god 11:30 right 11:30 is demonbane not edged? 11:30 demonbane's a silver mace in spork 11:30 ah 11:30 demonbane in sporkhack is a silver mace 11:30 dammit you type faster 11:31 well, here's one of those undead-living brawls K2 has been talking about 11:31 hothraxxa: ahh you also found out that "large" boxes in spork are only so in name, and can only hold a pitiful amount of items? I really looooooooove that change :D [/sarcasm] 11:31 * K2 hands aosdictito some popcorn 11:31 AmyBSOD\srn your sarcasm is invalid, not properly bracketed 11:34 Junethack: New user icebox registered! https://junethack.net/user/icebox 11:36 lorimer: is there something i should know about the castle drawbridge? all my bugle-playing does not give me any clicks or turns 11:37 nothing from this fire horn either 11:37 Bugles aren't tonal instruments 11:37 well vanilla begs to differ 11:37 they are! :P 11:37 yes, that was an intentional change from vanilla :) 11:37 they are 11:37 BLAT (high pitched) BLAT (low pitched) 11:37 also, they are 11:37 they are in real life too 11:37 is the bugle offering you the option to play a sequence of notes? 11:37 "The bugle is one of the simplest brass instruments, having no valves or other pitch-altering devices. All pitch control is done by varying the player's embouchure. Consequently, the bugle is limited to notes within the harmonic series." 11:37 aosdict\ito: yes 11:38 the fire horn puzzles me though. i think in vanilla you have to run it out of charges first, but i don't recall any tweaks to instruments other than the bugle 11:38 well that's confusing, offer you that prompt and yet be non-tonal 11:38 it is out of charges 11:38 lorimer: in vanilla you can play a sequence of notes even when charged, only improvising makes it shoot fire 11:38 it shouldn't offer you the prompt or it should indicate that you're not going to succeed in some way yeah 11:38 first thing i do with horns of fire or cold because i want to scare monsters 11:39 maybe that's what i'm thinking of. it may have been awhile :) 11:39 IIRC sporkhack had a bug with the drawbridge in KoboldLord's LP. Did that ever get fixed? 11:39 (run it out of charges so it's a useful scaring tool) 11:39 like, no amount of playing with any instrument would open it 11:40 it's only a nuisance for me, but that's a nasty surprise for someone who likes to go in the front door 11:40 lorimer: did i mention that three of four storerooms have no door? 11:40 If development was still active at the time and that was the bug, I would've fixed it. (the drawbridge never working) 11:42 hothraxxa: not even a secret one? that's also a bit odd 11:42 well i checked with a stethoscope multiple times 11:42 again only a minor nuisance for me, the only room i wanted to check had a door (armour) 11:43 is this the latest off K2's codebase, or the 2010-ish "latest"? 11:43 latest 11:44 lorimer: https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?466187-(Let-s-Play!)-Sporkhack&p=10839272#post10839272 11:44 https://i.imgur.com/qQAIaTf.mp4 COckatrice a tonal instruments 11:45 whoa! found the door 11:45 are* 11:45 it's in the corridor 11:45 oh you can't do ze audio like that 11:45 https://imgur.com/gallery/WjojLUD 11:46 lorimer: the missing doors are in the corridors. 11:47 thats on purpose 11:47 i would call that a twist 11:47 oh now you tell me 11:47 sorry 11:47 * K2 is at work 11:47 not doing work things really... 11:47 sort of 11:47 \o/ 11:48 hothraxxa: ha, i forgot i did that :) 11:48 or maybe k2 did that and that's why i forgot (ie. i didn't) 11:48 it's good i got in, i found a touchstone 11:48 hah no 11:49 lorimer - the only things we've changed with sporkhack is fixing bugs with charatcer/stair placement on level generation, and some quality of life/look n feel bits 11:50 AmyBSOD\srn: oh, this? "The drawbridge seems to be bugged again (unless there's simply no A's or B's in the passkey this time, which is possible)," <-- the parenthetical would have caused me to not bother looking 11:50 overall the game mechanics and your original intent are untouched 11:50 lorimer: uhh... if I were a game designer and one of my players said such a thing, I'd test it on a local build 11:50 sounds good. I wasn't worried, just been a long time since I looked at it so my memory for details is suspect 11:50 especially since he said "again", as in "it was bugged in an earlier game too" 11:51 AmyBSOD\srn you're not really in any place to chide another developer about how they conduct business ;) 11:51 if i were the player i'd have tried abcde then cdefg, just sayin 11:51 K2: well yeah lorimer can do whatever he wants, I'm just saying ;) 11:51 which i just did a few minutes ago btw 11:51 AmyBSOD\srn: The number of players who say things like that is sufficiently large that I would spend all my time chasing ghosts if I did that. I prefer to wait for bug reports that don't have a parenthetical explanation 11:52 ah 11:52 hothraxxa: yeah, no, yours is the bugle, for sure :) 11:52 i did this with the fire horn 11:52 i have a bugle irl 11:52 i definitely should've made it use a different message to indicate that it wasn't playing notes. the fire horn was not an intentional change that I remember though, that's weird 11:53 what i'm telling amy is that she should have checked for a's and b's before bothering you 11:53 so easy to do 11:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:53 that was KoboldLord, back in 2009. he didn't realize i was following along at that point yet, I believe 11:54 . 11:54