00:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 684 points, T:1875, killed by a dwarf zombie 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of °, the former Priest, on T:1272 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 304 points, T:3168, killed by a coyote 00:13 !streak hypnotist 00:13 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist Max[nh361]: 6 (2018-05-21 - 2018-06-03). 00:13 nooodle: [hdf-eu] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 00:13 nooodle: [hdf-au] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 00:16 so much for the pacifist 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 3619 points, T:2606, umber hulk 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2650 points, T:3946, killed by a dingo 00:32 <@Jendic> We meet again, sokoban 2a. 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 82 points, T:317, gnome 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 905 points, T:1455, magic missle 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:2074 00:55 [hdf-us] [fh] Lelith (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 37679 points, T:7127, killed by a spotted jelly 00:56 <@Jendic> well, not doing THAT again 00:56 <@Jendic> note to self: just because it won't corrode your weapon doesn't mean you should melee it 00:58 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5453 01:02 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13182 points, T:7308, petrified by touching a chickatrice corpse bare-handed 01:24 hi 01:24 Hello bouquet, Welcome to #hardfought 01:26 Just experienced another event on 3.6.1 using the HF curses interface where a blessed identify scroll attempted to ID everything in my inventory but only got about half. 01:26 same thing happened with a blessed remove curse last week. 01:27 Which half? 01:27 uhhh... kinda random, actually. Happened within the last couple turns. My ttyrec should have the recording 01:28 Cool. I'll have a look and see if I can make sense of it. 01:28 Had this issue before in xnh and since that's kind of experimental I thought it might be the game. Aosdict thought it might be the interface add-on. 01:28 Thanks, Tangles. 01:29 can you save and reload your game so it closes the ttyrec? It'll make it easier to find the right place. 01:29 done 01:29 !time 01:29 Tangles: Mon Jun 4 01:29:28 2018 EDT 01:29 thanks. 01:30 I'm at work now so it'll be a couple of hours before I get to look at it. 01:34 LMK when you think you have a fix. I have a blessed scroll of remove curse ready to go. It was similarly affected last time. 01:34 I guess you could copy my game and test with that? Dunno if you have a sandbox for that kind of thing. 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (minotaur), on T:1401 01:35 It's weird that windowport code would cause this. I suspect it'll be some bad interaction with the perm_invent option that was not accounted for... Really need to get to the botom of it though. 01:36 Did you put it on git? I'd be happy to look, too... though I have no time :( 01:37 Hmm yeah I can grab the backup of your save that would have been taken when you saved it just now, though it should be simple enough to wizmode someting similar. 01:38 yeah the code is all on github... I'll find the link. 01:38 3.6.1 on HF has the curses interface? 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2354 points, T:1941, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 01:41 MiseryMyra: Yes! Though it's vey new, and a little buggy. 01:41 Nice, nice. I may try it out 01:42 https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/tree/curses 01:42 bouquet: ^ 01:42 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) killed the ghost of °, the former Priest, on T:6712 01:44 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 01:44 it's pretty awesome, aside from the potential issue I brought up. It's not a showstopper, but it's a nuisance. 01:44 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 11148 points, T:7149, blaze of fire 01:54 Tangles: It's very nice 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9272 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7506 points, T:2765, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 01:56 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 02:06 Hm, 3.6.1 on HF uses a different "brown" color than I specify in my terminal 02:09 But only when I have curses enabled 02:10 Tangles: Maybe that's another bug with it? 02:13 hey rope golem, when you "turn to flee" you might actually go somewhere, not stand around in the doorway blocking my exit. 02:14 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:16 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 02:16 MiseryMyra: Entirely possible. I did not touch any of the colour-initialisation code when I ported the it from 3.4.3 02:17 nooodle: good job on that ascension! :) 02:17 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from aosdict\ito at 2018-06-03 18:24 EDT: Clearly, water walking shoes should be just regular walking shoes, but with an object material of LIQUID. 02:17 This is also why the hilite-piles option still shows piles with a blue background (a-la 3.4.3) instead of just inverse like the 3.6.x tty interface does. 02:18 among other things. There is still much to do, 02:19 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:19 killed by a typo 02:20 dizzylizzy\ito: you said you have conflicting feelings about slex... I'm curious, anything in particular that irks you about it? 02:32 * NCommander waves to channel 02:32 Still tickets I failed to ascend but I really wasnt' feeling it 02:33 hi NCommander! sorry for your loss :( how did it happen? air elementals usually aren't that dangerous, or did FIQhack massively boost them? 02:34 AmyBSOD\srn, I ran into Rodney trouble, I forgot FIQHack made WoD likely to miss unless you're leveled up 02:34 specifically, did he make them immune to conflict or something? because I've found them trivial to deal with when I have conflict in other variants 02:34 I managed to get into the portal but I was at like 50 HP 02:34 Air killed me before I could do anything 02:34 oh, FIQhack's Rodney... yeah that one is indeed massively boosted :( 02:34 It was mostly a Rodney splat 02:35 Air elemental just managed to end me 02:35 also the fact that death rays miss so much is bullshit :P 02:35 AmyBSOD\srn, so when does it get implemented in SLEX? :) 02:35 "it"? Rodney's double trouble? 02:36 or death rays missing stuff? slex actually boosts the chance that you hit things with ray wands 02:38 AmyBSOD\srn, death rays missing 02:39 AmyBSOD\srn, yeah that rather irritated me. It's one of the changes I actually really disagree with FIQHack, even though I find on the whole it to be my perferred variant 02:39 I KNOW WHAT I MUST DO 02:39 well, rays being so inaccurate is actually a vanilla feature, but I guess FIQhack boosts Rodney's AC whenever he gains a level, so the rays miss him even more often 02:39 * NCommander makes a new variant :) 02:39 yaaaaaay :) 02:39 SLEX with FIQHack's AI 02:40 That would be horrorifying unplayable 02:40 FIQslex! 02:54 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Sablja on T:29512 03:31 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:41 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:53 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:54 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:55 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 03:56 <@luxidream> !tell K2 my save "Empress" in dyna segfaults immediately on load, is there anything we can do? 03:56 Will do, @luxidream! 03:56 <@luxidream> !tell K2 it doesn't seem to be the same bug as last time 03:56 Will do, @luxidream! 03:57 <@luxidream> !tell K2 the save does not read "crashed" next to it, but loading it kicks me to dgamelaunch 03:57 Will do, @luxidream! 04:02 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:04 <@luxidream> !tell K2 it was running normally prior to this, until I saved the game and it refused to load back up 04:04 Will do, @luxidream! 04:07 hahahahahaha 04:07 Always drink coffee before returning to a game 04:08 I just killed all of the town watch thinking I was orc+chaotic 04:08 b/c I"m invisible without see-invisible and I didn't see that I'm an 'h' 04:08 Sooooooooooooo yeah 04:10 good luck 04:10 yo dizzylizzy\ito! I was wondering about something you said yesterday! you said you have conflicting feelings about slex... I'm curious, anything in particular that irks you about it? 04:10 Irks? More like confuses 04:10 There's... so much!! Of everything! :o 04:11 I'm used to the limited set of vanilla I guess 04:11 ah, haha yeah there is, I added a lot of stuff :D 04:11 Invisible without see-invisible is the worst 04:11 "a lot" might be understatement but yeah 04:11 :) 04:11 And, yeah, I'm intimidated by the sheer volume of stuff in slex 04:12 the pokedex helps 04:12 It's almost like there's super lotsa added stuff 04:13 slex would be unplayable without the pokedex 04:13 the pokedex is a super cool feature 04:13 especially for nerds who like numbers 04:13 :) 04:13 I would like to give slex a fair shot at some point, though 04:13 MiseryMyra: do it while I'm online, so I can spectate and give advice ;) 04:13 (that's what she said!) 04:13 Yowza 04:16 what are all these leprechauns doing with all these towels... is this some sort of leprechaun spa or something 04:24 lol 04:24 do they have mirrors too> 04:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23371 04:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:23416 04:33 oops 04:33 i was just tryna water pray 04:33 at least I get see invis and shock now, shock is so annoying to get now that black pudding corpses are nerfed 04:38 didn't you murder the whole minetown? 04:38 apparently your god doesn't care 04:41 I went back to bigroom, two coaligned unicorns there, chucked me some gemluck 04:41 all better 04:57 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 05:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:24807 05:05 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:06 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 05:12 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 05:15 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25186 05:24 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Borto (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1132 points, T:3541, killed by a bolt of lightning 05:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:26390 05:46 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "a blessed greased fixed figurine of an Archon named Go Nymphets!!!", on T:24790 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Borto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 70 points, T:199, killed by a jackal 05:53 next start has Frost Brand on T:4 05:53 !players 05:53 stennowork\ito: [hdf-us] hypnotist [nh361] Borto [nh361] dizzylizzy [xnh] 05:53 stennowork\ito: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh343] Muad [nh361] elenmirie [xnh] 05:53 stennowork\ito: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 05:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:57 (archon was hostile) 05:58 rip 06:00 rip morale for sure 06:01 sweet, now I'm all enchanted up and ready for the valley 06:10 go team ito 06:10 I want to play a knight so I can have a Lance named Ito 06:11 why do i find this so funny 06:11 i am missing the joke here 06:11 judge Lance Ito presided over the infamous O.J. Simpson trial in the mid-90s 06:11 oh i see 06:11 i only know junji ito 06:12 he's the patron saint of the Improved Tin Openers clan 06:12 lol 06:12 also I feel bad my furthest along game is in xnethack, no extra trophies for the clan 06:12 didn't realize your first asc would be in xnh :( soz 06:12 i'll do 361 and 343 next 06:12 doesn't really matter 06:12 play the one you enjoy most 06:12 It'll be my first variant ascension though :) 06:12 so that's neat 06:12 yay 06:13 gehennom design is really cool in xnethack 06:13 it really is!! the lone filler level between medusa and castle for me was really fun 06:14 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:14 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "a blessed greased figurine of an archon named please for the love of Hermes", on T:25837 06:16 -!- tsadok has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- K2_ has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- K2 has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:19 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:20 -!- Menche has quit [*.net *.split] 06:20 -!- zjmc__ has quit [*.net *.split] 06:20 -!- eady has quit [*.net *.split] 06:21 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 06:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:23 -!- NCommander has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:26392 06:24 :o 06:24 tsk tsk 06:25 i'm scraping the barrel here, trying to cobble together a feasible run 06:26 what does that mean, 'scraping the barrel'? 06:26 Trying to use the last options. 06:27 Last ditch effort or something to that effect. 06:27 ah ok 06:27 so was hoping for loot from the oracle 06:27 correct 06:27 gotcha 06:27 the hostile archon is now camping out near the entrance to the mines, and summoned a bunch of monsters there. I'm XP level 3 with 67 HP 06:32 stennowork\ito: would you say xnh gehennom takes more, the same, or less time than usual for 3.6.* ? 06:32 less 06:32 there is no mysterious force 06:32 but teleport is disabled when you have the ammy 06:33 Generally don't use tele with ammy anyway 06:33 it was so unreliable 06:34 "Sorry..." 06:34 as a TC+Teleportitis wizard I bet it's a change though 06:38 yeah 06:38 thats what i wanted to say, 'titis isn't really something you want anymore 06:39 at least not for speeding up the asc run 06:42 another thing to keep in mind, with the mysterious force gone, cursed !oGL are really nice to skip some of the more annoying levels like the demon lairs 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:29347 07:00 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:02 -!- K2_ is now known as K2 07:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o K2] by ChanServ 07:03 hi 07:03 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:03 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-06-04 03:56 EDT: my save "Empress" in dyna segfaults immediately on load, is there anything we can do? 07:03 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-06-04 03:56 EDT: it doesn't seem to be the same bug as last time 07:03 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-06-04 03:57 EDT: the save does not read "crashed" next to it, but loading it kicks me to dgamelaunch 07:03 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-06-04 04:04 EDT: it was running normally prior to this, until I saved the game and it refused to load back up 07:03 !tell @luxidream i'll have a look 07:03 Will do, K2! 07:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] wooble (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 587 points, T:93, killed by a soldier ant 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] wooble (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 197 points, T:1143, killed by a jackal 07:19 !tell @luxidream like before, there's no way I can see to manipulate the dynahack save to fix your crash. I can ask FIQ to have a look, he might see something I don't, but I recommend you treat dynahack as a 'play at your own risk' variant. Wish I had a better answer for you 07:19 Will do, K2! 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh13d] wooble (Tou Mal), 579 points, T:428, gnome 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] Wooble (wooble) (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 18120 points, T:1241, poisoned by a rabid rat 07:25 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2410 IMHO exactly illustrates what is wrong with arbitrary changes to monster glyphs. :P 07:28 [hdf-us] [gh] wooble (Val Dwa Fem Law), 522 points, T:1622, zombified by a kobold zombie 07:31 [hdf-us] [un] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 128 points, T:1120, killed by Ms. Ermenak, the shopkeeper 07:35 [hdf-us] [spl] wooble (Kni Ang Fem Law), 172 points, T:1266, killed by a guard 07:38 [hdf-us] [fh] Wooble (wooble) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 9135 points, T:1507, killed by a kitten 07:38 K2: just fyi: I've created a new slexjunethack222 branch for the slex repo, because I'll be releasing 2.23. So far we haven't had to do bugfix updates for slex at all yet during the tournament *knocks on wood*, but in the case that we do, they'll go in the slexjunethack222 branch. 2.23 isn't really ready yet and we don't want to do a version update during the tournament anyway ;) 07:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:923 07:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 864 points, T:1110, killed by an enormous rat 07:44 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by Wooble! 07:55 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 07:58 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 08:02 !who 08:02 elenmirie\splat: [hdf-us] hypnotist [nh361] richards [un] 08:02 elenmirie\splat: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh343] elenmirie [xnh] 08:02 elenmirie\splat: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 08:03 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:23 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 08:25 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 126595 points, T:35032, killed by Mr. Three-fingered Kanturk, the shopkeeper 08:26 [hdf-us] [sp] wooble (Val Dwa Fem Law), 679 points, T:1931, killed by a jaguar 08:28 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 08:28 [hdf-us] [dyn] Wooble (wooble) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 107 points, T:1899, killed by a falling object 08:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 392 points, T:1932, killed by a pony 08:33 [hdf-us] [4k] Wooble (wooble) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1590 points, T:1105, killed by a force bolt 08:34 stennowork\ito 08:36 zid`, 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] wooble (Val Dwa Fem Law), 251 points, T:1339, killed by a poisonous corpse 08:36 oh you're alive 08:36 I tried to get hold of you for like 2 days 08:36 didn't we talk yesterday 08:37 I did a celestial disgrace 3.4.3, the only thing missing is a real ascension, I also killed a guy called something in a something called slex 08:37 but I think I'm about done unless 3.4.3 ascension remains missing 08:37 or you want some more medusa kills 08:37 yeah i saw it already 08:37 i always want more medusa kills 08:37 and more games with all conducts broken 08:37 I never polyself :/ 08:38 is that a thing 08:39 ah yea, XII trophy thing 08:39 had I known I guess I could have polyself'd, I think that's the only thing I didn't do 08:39 [hdf-us] [slex] wooble (Bos Maz Mal Neu), 370 points, T:1127, killed by a monster (rabbit) 08:40 I tried to ask if you wanted a regular asc or disgrace or what but I couldn't get hold of you 08:42 i was mainly concerned with sleeping on the weekend, sorry 08:42 in case of doubt, just do what is most fun for you 08:42 -!- NeroOneTrueOOTC has joined #hardfought 08:42 I picked that because nobody at all had it 08:43 I could easily have polyself'd at some point though :( 08:43 yeah its a really nice one 08:43 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour" unlocked by Wooble! 08:44 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417023075348119556/453177289765683210/unknown.png I am a sexy beast who should be jailed 08:44 Is what I think that says 08:45 dang, jt ascended 1.3d 08:45 zid`: you should aim for the elder priest trophy in slex, not many others are going to get that either ;) 08:45 AmyBSOD\srn: I played one game of slex, understood precisely nothing, and died to being poisoned when I thought I was immune to poison :P 08:45 yeah nice, zid` 08:46 zid`: ooh may I use that as a random gravestone inscription in the next slex version please? ♥ 08:47 sure 08:47 thanks! 08:55 3.6.1 wat 08:55 I just did E *ten* times as a wizard and not one worked 08:56 <[Demo][srn]> hey how do i play dyna im in the castle with the chest but theres two wands and one is cancellation and one is wishing and i have no idea what is what 08:56 <[Demo][srn]> also is the WoW rechargable? 08:56 zap one? if it's cancel it'll ask for a direction 08:56 [Demo][srn]: unnethack spawns the wand already recharged, I'm pretty sure dyna does the same 08:56 or engrave test 08:56 -!- eiyassa has joined #hardfought 08:57 <[Demo][srn]> but like then i have to know what i want to wish for 08:57 <[Demo][srn]> what do i want to wish for? 08:57 things that you can't get with the non-wishes given from other sources 08:57 <[Demo][srn]> I'd take some sdsm but I don't know who silver is 08:57 If it's anything like nethack I can tell you what to wish for :P 08:57 comr, speed boots etc. 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> you dont need a comr 08:58 yeah the DSM change kind of sucks 08:58 Mandevil\splat is having fun on astral heh 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> your quest artifact grants it 08:58 half hp and zapping his death wand around 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> even if its the orb of fat 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> and it cant be stolen by rodney 08:58 (he's not strong enough to lift it) 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> already got speed boots hemm 08:58 <[Demo][srn]> oh gop 08:59 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:59 <[Demo][srn]> i sure hope dyna doesnt do the slashem gop change 08:59 looks like mandevil is having to go for altar #3, rip 08:59 <[Demo][srn]> afaik only slashem does that 08:59 hmm, dyna has object properties... I wonder if you can wish for them 08:59 <[Demo][srn]> dont think so 09:00 <[Demo][srn]> i only ever see object property wishes for fiqhack 09:00 <[Demo][srn]> i mean grunt 09:00 <[Demo][srn]> lmao how did i confuse those 09:00 FH is Grunthack 2.0 :P 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:34527 09:02 Mandevil\splat: What ya waiting for? 09:02 oh maybe ascensions in 24h 09:04 <[Demo][srn]> ok so looking at luxidream's dumplogs it seems you cant wish for object properties 09:04 <[Demo][srn]> cause otherwise id see more 09:04 <[Demo][srn]> or any 09:04 FIQhack doesn't allow for properties on wishes. 09:05 <[Demo][srn]> hmm what else do i want? 09:06 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:06 [Demo][srn]: speed boots? 09:06 <[Demo][srn]> got those very early 09:06 ah 09:07 <@Tone\ootc> I had a game of 361 yesterday where I poly'd every piece of magic armor in they game looking for speed boots 09:07 <[Demo][srn]> might just go aols 09:07 <@Tone\ootc> Would have settled for jumping boots 09:07 <[Demo][srn]> damn 09:07 "You are standing at the gate to Gehennom. Unspeakable cruelty and harm lurk down there. Are you sure you want to enter? [yn] (n) y" 09:07 "So be it. You fall down the stairs." 09:07 <@Tone\ootc> ...ended up ascending with +0 iron shoes 09:07 told - you - so 09:08 from my last dyna ascension: On T:39855 you wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots". On T:39872 you wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding". On T:40547 you wished for "3 blessed greased fixed scrolls of genocide". 09:08 <@Tone\ootc> Grassy: That's always been one of my favorite messages in the game 😄 09:08 oh, and also: On T:18958 you wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of reflection". On T:18965 you wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death". On T:19040 you wished for "3 blessed greased fixed scrolls of genocide". 09:09 gotta genocide those ****ers in dyna individually because of a spiteful design change :P 09:09 <[Demo][srn]> uhh hmm could go for a ring of levitation 09:10 <[Demo][srn]> ok so here's what I need - aols, ring of levitation, and a boh 09:10 hrmph, it has cooled off 15 degrees since yesterday, all the ants in the garden are apparently cold and have thus decided to live in my kitchen 09:11 zid`: genocide them! :P 09:12 <[Demo][srn]> went for lev ring 09:13 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 09:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 09:13 <[Demo][srn]> motheruekr 09:13 <[Demo][srn]> lost my wow 09:13 <[Demo][srn]> when mjolnir returned to me after testing gop 09:14 If you're cold, they're cold, let them inside! 09:14 @tone\ootc once time I did Gehennom from the bottom-up (ie levported to the VS level and worked up from there). Then decided to go back down the stairs and got that message 09:14 I lolled around on the floor for about 30 minutes 09:16 [Demo][srn]: gah! why didn't you use up the wishes right away? I'm always paranoid about the wand breaking so I either empty the wand or put it away if I decide to keep it for later 09:16 <@Tone\ootc> Entering gehennom for the first time after fully mapping gehennom, well done 😄 09:16 well, at least dyna allows random wands of wishing, unlike some other variants 09:16 <[Demo][srn]> i had to test out my gop 09:16 <[Demo][srn]> and got pretty unlucky 09:17 <@Tone\ootc> Yeah that's rather unfortunate 09:17 * AmyBSOD\srn knows why she stays the hell away from all the artifact weapons that can destroy items 09:17 vanilla has enough item destruction already, don't need my weapon to also destroy stuff I want to use 09:18 poly into a pyrolisk instead 09:18 who needs scrolls or potions 09:22 <[Demo][srn]> snickersnee find! 09:24 yay! 09:24 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:29 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:30 so, the way to annoy AmyBSOD\srn the most is to incentivize using all the artifact weapons that do destroy items? 09:35 <[Demo][srn]> wth 09:35 <[Demo][srn]> who put water in the valley? 09:36 whoever made that variant, I suppose 09:36 <[Demo][srn]> i blame bhaak 09:36 <[Demo][srn]> this is probably a whacky un valley 09:37 <[Demo][srn]> also why is there no color in the valley, this is annoying 09:37 I pass the blame on to Dante 09:37 <[Demo][srn]> dammit dante why u gotta write dumb books and shit 09:38 the no-color thing is third party patch writer IIRC. that's also where slex has their funky melting walls 09:38 I didn't know that dyn incorporated that, though 09:38 <[Demo][srn]> yeah at least un has color 09:41 <[Demo][srn]> wonder if theres a portal hub here 09:56 <[Demo][srn]> man hell is gonna suck, isnt it? 09:58 !rng x v l 09:58 raisse\splat: x 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:32881 10:28 <[Demo][srn]> dyna has one eyed sam's, right? 10:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:31 I don't think it does 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] Borto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 16 points, T:106, killed by a goblin 10:32 [hdf-us] [dyn] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 330 points, T:611, killed by an acid blob 10:33 it does 10:34 <[Demo][srn]> that seems to be all it has? 10:34 <[Demo][srn]> that and town 10:34 <[Demo][srn]> oh and advent calendar ok fine 10:35 <[Demo][srn]> ok and dragon caves branching off hell 10:35 I think that should be it. 10:36 sheol was slightly later IIRC 10:36 <[Demo][srn]> well the dyna lore i read last night said sheol was too much 10:39 IIRC that correctly, it was the flurry of new commits that a new contributor brought in (which eventually lead to unnethack 5), not sheol. sheol was in itself rather constrained to its own branch 10:39 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:39 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:40 <[Demo][srn]> congrats u defeated dynahack 10:41 it wasn't me. 10:41 <[Demo][srn]> u rallied more support than dyna 10:41 <[Demo][srn]> and got more ppl slamming away 10:41 but rereading it, it really sounds as if sheol was the reason. but I'm not sure that is correct in an objective way 10:42 Junethack: Sakusen ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 10:42 you need just one maniac commit writer 10:43 <[Demo][srn]> "BRANCH: "One-eyed Sam's Market" @ (20, 5) portal" this means 20+ or - rn2(5O) or 20 + rn2(5) ? 10:59 <[Demo][srn]> │y - a blessed +1 shield of reflection and power. motherfucker 11:02 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:02 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 11:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 11:04 <[Demo][srn]> uh hmm im not sure what to do now in dyna so i guess ill just try to get the amulet or whatever 11:05 aosdict\ito: wielding one dagger from a stack and having the wielded dagger and the stack use the same inventory letter is a feature, right? not a bug 11:05 I've been experimenting with it 11:06 I think I like it but still have some issues with picking up a new dagger into the wielded slot by default, unless you do some juggling to have that not the first instance of the letter 11:24 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 11:24 aosdict\ito: perhaps this is a bug: if you have multiple slots of the same letter for the same thing (like a stack of daggers) and you #adjust something *else* to that letter, the stack keeps the letter too 11:24 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:28 -!- hf_guest_75151 has joined #hardfought 11:29 I would like to buy an altar please.. 11:37 raisse\splat: how would you get one item in multiple slots? 11:39 raisse\splat: AFAICT, what you're talking about is having 2 daggers in slot a, and 2 daggers in slot b, and then you try to adjust d - a food ration to slot a? 11:40 also I'm not sure you should be able to wield one item from a stack 11:40 in vanilla 3.6.1, the wield command doesn't take a count... 11:40 there's nothing in xnh that should allow it to take a count 11:43 perhaps this is related to fiq's getobj refactor 11:43 crap, me and my cat fell into a vault 11:43 aosdict\ito help 11:43 * aosdict\ito sends zid a thiefstone 11:43 I'm serious 11:43 what do 11:44 ... the regular thing to do when you're trapped in a vault? wait for the guard, forfeit all your gold, get escorted out? 11:44 will the cat come? 11:44 in 3.6.1 and derivatives, almost certainly yes 11:45 it follows a lot better there 11:45 oh I have a leash if needed 11:45 I thought the guard paralysed you and dragged you out or something 11:46 yea the moment I set foot out of the vault I snapped the leash, should have let him go first :/ 11:46 That would certainly be less bug-prone than the current not-really-there-corridor code 11:46 just tele you out of the vault 11:46 !tell bouquet I can reproduce the identify problem using your save, and yes it seems to only happen with curses interface. Could not repro the remove curse issue at all (but maybe not enough cursed items). 11:46 Will do, Tangles! 11:47 I am hosed 11:47 there's a leocrotta here and I have 0 combat capacity :( 11:47 and this room is dark 11:47 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:47 !tell bouquet I'll run it in a debugger tomorrow to try to figure out exactly what's going on. 11:47 Will do, Tangles! 11:47 the problems are similar enough that whatever fix is made will probably work on both 11:48 YASI: you can pick up and drop staircases. If you drop them in the wrong place and then get teleported off the level, parts of the dungeon may become inaccessible without levelporting/trapdoors/cursed gain level. 11:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:7021 11:48 AmyBSOD\srn, very good for LooneyTunesHack 11:49 !tell FIQ there appears to be a small getobj bug: the getobj call for "wield" in wield.c allows a count to be specified, which can lead to invent bugs. 11:49 Will do, aosdict\ito! 11:49 what, noises in the distance.. did my cat get free somehow? O_o 11:50 wooo my cat is back, he's a MAGIC CAT 11:50 magic cats ftw 11:50 aaand he died to a leocrotta 11:50 magicat 11:51 AmyBSOD\srn: is ^ in slex? 11:51 had I known he was fighting it I could have healed him, but this bloody room is dark 11:51 aosdict\ito: huh, what would that do? a cat that can cast spells? 11:51 of course 11:51 added to my to-do list 11:51 thanks! 11:51 ah nice, !who works in private messages 11:52 so I don't have to ping all current players 11:52 AmyBSOD\srn, more like a familiar in that it would increase the players ability to cast spells in some way 11:52 oh ffs, I fell past bigroom also 11:52 this game gets worse and worse 11:52 so now I am trapped below bigroom with no pet :D 11:52 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 11:52 it works! 11:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 11:53 hello Apache!raisse 11:53 raisse\splat: I think the thing you found is a getobj bug 11:53 I could fix it myself, but would prefer fiq to fix it upstream 11:54 you shouldn't be able to wield part of a stack 11:54 aosdict\ito: query sent (with screenshots) 11:54 I thought it was a feature 11:55 and when I had multiple daggers in 'a' slots, and adjusted a silver dagger to 'a', they were *all* in 'a' slots (the silver dagger and the other ones) 11:55 <@mtf> man 11:55 <@mtf> my whole weekend got hijacked 11:56 <@mtf> I wanted to stream all sat / sunday 11:56 <@mtf> but people just kept showing up at my house T.T 11:56 <@mtf> I have a fever 11:56 aosdict\ito: I *like* it! no more manual dagger-wrangling when I want to wield just one and quiver the rest 11:56 <@mtf> and the only prescription 11:56 <@mtf> is more fiqhack 11:56 aosdict\ito: (disclaimer: I haven't tried quivering any, I've just been throwing what the game wanted to throw) 11:57 aosdict\ito: I am a level 7 wizard with force bolt, a quarterstaff, no pet, and have found my quest >_< 12:03 !tell lorimer YANI: since sinks are items in spork and only weigh 1000, how about adding this if the player character tries to pick it up and is strong enough: "you rip the sink off the floor" "water floods the room!" 12:03 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 12:03 raisse\splat: pretty sure allowing the inventory to contain multiple entries with the same letter is all sorts of bad 12:03 in fact, I am wrangling this problem in my slex game 12:03 I picked up so much stuff that about half my inventory is #, and now I'm afraid to use anything that's a # because how does the game know which item I mean? 12:04 aosdict\ito: use a portable container and put excess items into it! in slex, boxes and chests are light enough that most characters can carry them without being burdened :) 12:04 reading backlog 12:04 FIQ: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-03 07:20 EDT: "The dwarf zaps a forked wand, which suddenly explodes! Your conscience bothers you... The dwarf is caught in the ball of cold! The dwarf is killed!" fix plz, I didn't do nothing and you're reducing my alignment??? 12:04 FIQ: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-03 07:23 EDT: it's even worse, that explosion ANGERED THE FUCKING SHOPKEEPER EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE DWARF ZAPPING THE WAND. 12:04 FIQ: Message from zid` at 2018-06-03 07:24 EDT: don't change it this is great sport to watch 12:04 FIQ: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-03 07:25 EDT: well *thanks dude*, now the shopkeeper killed me through no fault of my own. Fix plz. 12:04 FIQ: Message from aosdict\ito at 2018-06-04 11:49 EDT: there appears to be a small getobj bug: the getobj call for "wield" in wield.c allows a count to be specified, which can lead to invent bugs. 12:04 I haven't touched ray to-hit at all 12:04 yes, I had that problem with the daggers because I couldn't drop one that wasn't the first in the list. 12:04 and I don't boost Rodney's AC 12:04 variant paranoia 12:04 I would pay a lot of money for a lamp 12:04 or wand of light 12:05 raisse\splat: also, this is a way to circumvent the 52-item limit 12:05 technically 12:05 never thought of that 12:05 if you have something stackable 12:05 aosdict\ito: allow_count is a boolean for getobj, is it set properly for wielding? 12:05 I thought it was deliberate, and meant to express that though you're wielding only one dagger they're all still technically in the same stack 12:06 <@rikersan\srn> are there any advantages to higher int than 18? 12:06 Thanks game. 12:07 "oh an altar at last, I'll read all these spellbooks and then get magicbane hopefully" 12:07 <@rikersan\srn> lol 12:07 FIQ: It's set to TRUE, which I assume is incorrect (since you can do what raisse did and end up with d - 1 dagger (wielded) *and* d - 3 daggers). 12:07 @rikersan\srn! *sweetheart bundle* ♥ 12:07 in this case, I'd like to keep parity with vanilla and not allow wield with count 12:08 <@rikersan\srn> I'm playing dnh now amy not slex >_> 12:08 I get crappy spells, but I do get create monster, I zap it, and an elf zaps me with lightning and kills me 12:08 rikersan: sure, no problem, we need trophies in every variant and I suck at dnethack! ;) 12:08 <@rikersan\srn> should I enchant this +0 helm of brilliance or the +2 dwarven helm 12:09 aosdict\ito: I will fix it 12:09 after I fix a fiqhack bug regarding monsters breaking wands 12:09 <@rikersan\srn> no point for hungerless spellcasting or regen, I'm an inc 12:09 ok 12:09 rikersan: not sure how dnethack works in that regard, but my guess would be that more int = better spellcasting chances? 12:10 <@rikersan\srn> I have 18 right now but yeah probably true 12:10 <@rikersan\srn> it's just that I'm reluctant, thinking about wishing for stormhelm :/ 12:10 AmyBSOD\srn: fixed the monster wand-breaking bug 12:10 !tell K2 pushed a fix 12:10 Will do, FIQ! 12:10 ah, thanks FIQ! 12:10 <@rikersan\srn> I'm not doing the robe since I'm going to wish for GM robe, then prolly tie-dye shirt, then _ 12:10 was it because of the shopkeeper itself, or because the door got destroyed? 12:10 <@rikersan\srn> can't htink of anything else good 12:11 was there any other bug 12:11 <@mtf> junethack: FIQ's ultimate QA session 12:11 FIQ: not for me at least, because my game ended due to this one :P 12:11 AmyBSOD\srn: explode's parameter was given as if players was breaking the wand 12:11 I forgot how stupid the typ parameter was for explode 12:11 and buzz 12:12 <@rikersan\srn> oh, not stormhelm, definitely gauntlest of spell power I'm an idiot 12:12 <@mtf> FIQ: I had a game on stream where I went down the mines to the second mine level and got instakilled... Gnome Queen wand of sleep'ed me the same turn I descended and then just murdered me 12:12 <@mtf> was like "huh, having a hard time arguing that every run is winnable after that one xD" 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:22727 12:13 aosdict\ito: pushed a fix 12:14 <@rikersan\srn> RIP 12:14 @mtf heh... but that could happen in vanilla too 12:14 sorry for your loss 12:15 <@mtf> for sure 12:15 <@mtf> was just amusing on camera 12:15 <@mtf> "welp, guess we'll start another lol? 12:15 <@mtf> "* 12:15 how did the stream go otherwise 12:15 @mtf FWIW that situation is rather... unlikely 12:15 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15 <@mtf> good! well, mostly... had pretty bad luck with my valk, got to castle with like -10ac, and got cocky 12:15 <@mtf> tried to kill blue dragons for their scales before getting the WoW 12:16 <@mtf> ... then the blue dragon I fought blew up the other door, and all four dragons attacked me 12:16 Ellllbereth for dragons 12:16 <@mtf> I killed one of them, but ended up getting murdered by the other blue dragon 😦 12:16 plus if you could get over the pits, you presumably had levi 12:16 @mtf ouch 12:16 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 12:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 12:16 dragons are no joke 12:16 you if anyone should know this 12:16 <@mtf> now I'm working on a barb heh 12:16 They're a joke if you have E and levi :P 12:16 <@mtf> yea I gave them plenty of respect 12:16 zid`: not in fh 12:16 <@mtf> but I needed to get that WoW (which I should have gotten before unleashing them, whoops) 12:16 ah 12:17 <@mtf> yea in FH dragons are crazy strong 12:17 -!- stennowork\ito has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:17 neat 12:17 @mtf did you at least attack from a diagonal 12:17 <@mtf> of course 12:17 <@mtf> I had immunity from shock too 12:17 <@mtf> it was the melee that killed me 12:17 <@mtf> they're super fast 12:18 mhm 12:18 what is this? a FIQhack update? 12:18 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-06-04 12:10 EDT: pushed a fix 12:18 K2: yeah a bug fix 12:18 fh is mostly stable 12:18 its been awhile ;) 12:18 hence less updates 12:18 this isn't 2016 12:18 <@mtf> but yea, I'm working on a barb now 12:18 <@mtf> going much better than the valk 😃 12:19 @mtf on stream or? 12:19 <@mtf> hoping to continue it today 12:19 <@mtf> yup, on stream 12:19 cool 12:19 I should watch it 12:19 <@mtf> all of my junethack games will be streamed I decided 12:19 cool 12:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11294 12:19 <@mtf> gotta get lots of FH content out there on the web while the going's hot 😛 12:19 btw, don't put corpses, eggs or cursed figurines in a magic chest 12:19 just my luck that I hit one of the few remaining game-ending bugs in FH :P 12:19 a timer bug I need to fix 12:20 <@mtf> gotcha 12:20 AmyBSOD\srn: I wouldn't call it game-ending, you were just unlucky situation-wise 12:20 <@mtf> would put those in anyway, but good to know 12:20 well in my case it was game-ending 12:20 @mtf oh and lamps/etc 12:21 basically any object with a timer of osrts 12:21 *sorts 12:21 <@mtf> oh no my lamps 12:21 <@mtf> that's interesting 12:22 <@mtf> so amy what happened to you regarding wands? 12:22 @mtf a monster zapped a wand that blew up 12:22 angering a shopkeeper 12:22 mtf: something zapped a wand of cold inside a shop, it exploded, and the shopkeeper got angry at *me* 12:22 <@mtf> ahhh 12:22 <@mtf> yea that's pretty brutal 12:22 <@mtf> lol 12:23 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 198 points, T:1395, killed by Mr. Gaziantep, the shopkeeper 12:23 last year an orc read a scroll of stinking cloud in minetown and the watch captain got angry at me and instagibbed me 12:23 <@mtf> reminds me of the one time I pissed off a shopkeeper, though I was going to get instamurdered, and then he drank one of those potions that makes a ghost appear and he became paralyzed with fear... killed him easily while he was immobile xD 12:23 milk'd 12:23 <@rikersan\srn> amy: you should try to ascend dnh this run 12:24 <@rikersan\srn> specifically just to kill the elder priest 12:24 <@rikersan\srn> *this junethack 12:24 rikersan: I actually plan to kill the elder priest in slex, because that gives a trophy 12:25 it does in dnh too 12:25 I think 12:27 <[Demo][srn]> nope 12:27 <[Demo][srn]> just for obtaining the amulet 12:27 <@rikersan\srn> in dnh it's not even that evil 12:27 <@rikersan\srn> compared to demo or even asmo 12:27 <@rikersan\srn> >_< 12:28 the dnethack elder priest is too easy if you know what you're doing (I didn't last year), that's why both dnhslex and slex boost him 12:28 @rikersan\srn leave it to AmyBSOD\srn to exaggerate 12:28 <[Demo][srn]> i actually meeleed him like two days ago 12:28 <[Demo][srn]> cause i dantalion warped to him and figured why not 12:30 <@rikersan\srn> LOL 12:30 <@rikersan\srn> how'd it go? 12:31 <[Demo][srn]> very well 12:31 <[Demo][srn]> he has like 50 hp 12:31 <[Demo][srn]> and as long as you are prepared engame he can't really hurt you 12:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 12:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12097 12:40 FIQ: i'll patch here soon. busy atm 12:40 ok 12:41 hmm might be able to right now if i'm quick 12:41 FIQ: I'd like to request some earlygame trophies, the ones from nethack fourk to be specific ;) 12:42 K2: also pushed the getobj fix FIQ just made 12:43 ok 12:43 FIQhack updated (all servers) 12:43 <[Demo][srn]> im putting off playing xnethack 12:43 <[Demo][srn]> why? theres a simple reason 12:43 <[Demo][srn]> i don't feel like killing off my current game in it from before jnh :P 12:43 [Demo][srn]: make an alternate account! 12:43 [Demo][srn]: So use a different server. 12:44 Play on the Aussie server. I am sure there will be no lag at all. 12:44 <[Demo][srn]> no i never wanna finish that game 12:44 <[Demo][srn]> its from versions back 12:44 xNetHack updated (all servers) 12:44 ok bbl 12:53 * aosdict\ito reads that GitHub is being acquired by Microsoft 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:14725 12:56 Typical, I untrap 50 boxes and no trap 12:56 open one without checking and it's trapped 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> why do tengus always get sol valtiva ffs 12:57 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> demo is this intentional? 12:57 <[Demo][srn]> im curious 12:57 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 12:57 <[Demo][srn]> it must be because ive had similar experiences 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> ok 12:57 <[Demo][srn]> lets check makemon.c 12:57 <@rikersan\srn> since I've found it on tengus like 8 times now 12:58 <[Demo][srn]> oh neat its a thing 12:58 <[Demo][srn]> female tengus get sol valtiva 1/20 of the time 12:58 <[Demo][srn]> or 100% if on samurai quest 12:58 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:59 <[Demo][srn]> rustproof uncursed sol va at that 13:01 -!- hf_guest_75151 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 13:07 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:15584 13:09 <@rikersan\srn> tfw you've been magic missiling him for a long time before realzing: he has MR 13:10 <@rikersan\srn> [demo] you konw it's obsidian it can't rust right 13:10 <@rikersan\srn> >_> 13:11 <[Demo][srn]> well its fixed 13:11 <@rikersan\srn> lol 13:11 <@rikersan\srn> RIP 13:13 <[Demo][srn]> you are free from hellhack 13:15 yeah, good thing that run is finally over 13:15 spork is literally unplayable :P 13:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:15948 13:15 next I'll probably try nh1.3 with nethack mode, and die horribly too 13:15 <[Demo][srn]> you'll splat fast 13:15 1.3 has no farlook, right? how do you know if something is hostile, peaceful or a pet? 13:16 <[Demo][srn]> you can't hit anything in that game 13:16 in fact, how do you know what anything on the screen is? 13:16 <[Demo][srn]> guess 13:16 yea that was what annoyed me 13:16 "WTf is this F" 13:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22779 13:19 and he had an "oLS too 13:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:22893 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:16263 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Wiz Inc Fem Neu), 229315 points, T:16268, killed by a ball of radiance 13:26 <[Demo][srn]> my poor oona 13:26 <[Demo][srn]> Oh rip 13:26 <@rikersan\srn> I literally just got 1 shot 13:26 <@rikersan\srn> by a passive attack I think 13:26 <@rikersan\srn> !lastgame 13:26 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikerw/dnethack/dumplog/1527983233.dnh.txt 13:26 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/sporkhack/dumplog/1528025443.sp.txt 13:26 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Escaity/xnethack/dumplog/1528010814.xnh.txt 13:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23132 13:26 <[Demo][srn]> @d?ball of radiance 13:26 ball of radiance (e) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: sleep | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: -17 | Attacks: 6d6 touch fire, 6d6 touch fire, 3d12 touch shock, 3d12 touch shock, 3d12 cast shock, 0d10 passive cold | Alignment: -8 | Flags: flies, breathless, unsolid, regenerates, stalker, infravisible 13:26 <@rikersan\srn> yep, "very cold" 13:27 <@rikersan\srn> I had like 40 hp I think 13:27 ouch 13:27 thats a strong one 13:27 <[Demo][srn]> what colour oona did u have? 13:27 <@rikersan\srn> shocking 13:27 just dnethack things 13:27 <[Demo][srn]> shocking 13:27 <@rikersan\srn> yep 13:27 <@rikersan\srn> that wasn't ooan that was a tulani I woke up accidentally 13:27 <@rikersan\srn> tfw tulanis are worse than oona 13:28 <[Demo][srn]> oona gave up her energy form 13:28 <@rikersan\srn> ? 13:28 <[Demo][srn]> that's why she doesn't have one 13:28 <@rikersan\srn> so? 13:29 <@rikersan\srn> she needs a buff 13:29 <[Demo][srn]> her song is strong 13:29 <@rikersan\srn> so? she's useless otherwise 13:29 <[Demo][srn]> @d?oona 13:29 Oona (A) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock petrification | Confers: sleep | MR: 77 | Generates: unique | AC: -13 | Attacks: 10d8 cast oona, 20d8 passive oona | Alignment: 20 | Flags: omnivore, amphibious, breathless, seeinvis, infravisible 13:29 <[Demo][srn]> 20d8 passive 13:30 <[Demo][srn]> if you come in there with the right resists everything is weak 13:30 <[Demo][srn]> which is the idea 13:30 <[Demo][srn]> it's a can you read a scroll of resistance from quest home lvl right b4 u enter test 13:31 <[Demo][srn]> if the answer is yes, have some nice stuff 13:31 <[Demo][srn]> otherwise, hope you're resistant 13:32 <@rikersan\srn> ^ 13:33 what up, ballers 13:33 yay muad 13:34 it got me the rings i need & i'm pretty much ready now 13:35 <@rikersan\srn> amy which dnh combo should I do now? 13:35 do we wanna park our chars on the high altars for variants we are only going to ascend once 13:35 (and not playing realtime) 13:35 we gonna get some ito ascensions in todayyy 13:36 <[Demo][srn]> rikersan enchant weapon doesn't work 13:37 <[Demo][srn]> so don't do a weapon user 13:37 <[Demo][srn]> do vamp con 13:37 <[Demo][srn]> and use the ball 13:37 <@rikersan\srn> no tha'ts fixed 13:37 <@rikersan\srn> I think 13:38 <@rikersan\srn> isn't it? 13:38 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 13:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6_] by ChanServ 13:38 <@rikersan\srn> I made 2 prs and chris merged them, before k2 updated 13:38 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:38 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 13:38 <@rikersan\srn> huh you're right 13:39 <@rikersan\srn> hey k2 when you get a chance can you pull dnh? (compat-3.16.0) 13:40 <[Demo][srn]> ohhh you're the one that fucked it up 13:40 <[Demo][srn]> no its pulled 13:40 <[Demo][srn]> you just didnt fix it 13:41 <@rikersan\srn> yep 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/blob/compat-3.16.0/src/wield.c#L790 actually read this line :P 13:41 <@rikersan\srn> I see now :/ 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> yeah 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> its funny 13:41 <@rikersan\srn> k2 scratch that, pull from nero's patch branch under PRs 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> cause chris is talking about not fixing it for all of jnh and just disabling enchant wep for fairness sake 13:41 stenno\ito, i could park unnethack and spork maybe 13:42 <[Demo][srn]> tried to push him away from that saying that the only ascension that happened didnt have to deal with it 13:42 Muad\ito: nice 13:42 <@rikersan\srn> wait shit did I miss his msg storm 13:42 <@rikersan\srn> or was he talking in #dnh 13:43 <[Demo][srn]> in dnh 13:43 <@rikersan\srn> DAMNIT 13:43 Hm, why am I still finding wizard corpses named Grasshoppe. 13:43 <@rikersan\srn> tell him to clear his msgs so I do'nt feel bad about leaving him more 13:43 . 13:43 Chris_ANG: Message from [Demo][srn] at 2018-05-31 23:24 EDT: wtf?? 3.15.2 doesn't actually fix binder peasent zombie issue?? 13:43 <[Demo][srn]> lmao 13:43 <@rikersan\srn> ...... 13:43 <@rikersan\srn> I am very sad 13:43 <@rikersan\srn> did you allready clear them chris? 13:44 <@rikersan\srn> also hey, welcome back! 13:44 Hello :) 13:44 <@rikersan\srn> searching hte transcript looks like you never got them 13:45 I only got to see part of them, I think. The bot was kicked for excess flood. 13:45 <@rikersan\srn> are you serious 13:45 <@rikersan\srn> that's great 13:45 <@rikersan\srn> anyway it was mostly hte bugs I made PRs for 13:45 <@rikersan\srn> and requests to balance stuff 13:45 "A tower of flame erupts from the floor under the hell hound! The hell hound is uninjured. The hell hound disappears!" 13:45 You introduced a crash bug on Lolth's level :P 13:46 <@rikersan\srn> are you serious 13:46 <@rikersan\srn> shit 13:46 <@rikersan\srn> I'm sorry about that >.> 13:46 <@rikersan\srn> hey in my defense I like my other changes to the vaults 13:46 <[Demo][srn]> what were the vault changes? 13:46 * Chris_ANG has introduced plenty of crash bugs on all sorts of levels 13:46 <@rikersan\srn> >.> 13:47 <@rikersan\srn> demo new monsters 13:47 <@rikersan\srn> in 4 group 13:47 <@rikersan\srn> magic users, clockworks, menagerie, and lovecraft 13:47 can you not turn autopickup in 1.3d off? 13:47 <[Demo][srn]> you can 13:47 <[Demo][srn]> maybe not with putty nethack mode 13:47 <@rikersan\srn> magic/clck/lovecraft get extra stuff, like spbks/scrolls/extra components/blessed fig of a nice monster 13:48 <[Demo][srn]> is a giant eagle a nice monster? 13:48 <@rikersan\srn> no 13:48 <@rikersan\srn> all lovecrafty 13:48 <[Demo][srn]> damn 13:48 [Demo][srn]: how? please tell me which key does it :) 13:48 <[Demo][srn]> shift 2 13:48 <@rikersan\srn> i.e. MMF, deepst one, darkness given hunger, maybe one other thing 13:48 <[Demo][srn]> shoggoth? :P 13:48 <@rikersan\srn> no, priest of ghaun tho I think 13:48 <@rikersan\srn> maybe both 13:48 [Demo][srn]: Unknown command '"'. 13:48 hmm 13:48 @rikersan\srn how do you get the first alignment key in dnh? the trophy only says "that was the easy one" and I can't find any information about it on the wiki 13:49 on my keyboard, shift-2 is " - what is it on yours? 13:49 <@rikersan\srn> IIRC it's actually an even chance of shoggoth/deepest/MMF/darkness, and then the shoggoth has a 1/3 of being a priest of ghaun 13:49 <@rikersan\srn> aosidct: that one was axus 13:49 so you get it from someone named axus? 13:49 <@rikersan\srn> do you want me to explain all oof the keys? 13:49 aosdict\ito: It's for finishing the game with one alignment key, I think. 13:49 [Demo][srn]: oh, it's @, why don't you tell me directly :P 13:49 <@rikersan\srn> aosdict: ok, there are 9 total (across the 3 alignment quests) 13:50 @rikersan Ah, I just found the wiki page 13:50 why can monsters even spawn on the sokoban holes 13:50 <@rikersan\srn> the law quest has axus for the first one (he's a powerful monoton), some golem dude for the 2nd one, and then oona for 3rd 13:50 <@rikersan\srn> yeah 13:50 <[Demo][srn]> i somehow got the all 9 achievement 13:50 <@rikersan\srn> magicâ„¢ 13:50 <@rikersan\srn> LOL demo 13:50 <[Demo][srn]> like i dont know how the game managed to actually pick it up 13:50 <[Demo][srn]> cause i did genuinely get them all and meet the requirement 13:50 <[Demo][srn]> but im very surprised it didn't not work 13:51 <@rikersan\srn> LOL 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> cause it would have been so annoying if it didnt work and thats usually how that kind of shit goes 13:51 <@rikersan\srn> also the 1st chaos one is broken 13:51 <@rikersan\srn> can't be made by non-chaotics 13:51 <@rikersan\srn> maybe it's not broken but it's a shitty feature then 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> no it can be made 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> you just have to kill chaose first? 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> i couldnt make it before i killed him 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> then i killed him and i could make it 13:51 Should be you just have to SEE Chaos first. 13:52 <[Demo][srn]> that could be it 13:52 <@rikersan\srn> oh 13:52 <@rikersan\srn> that makes a lot of sense 13:52 <@rikersan\srn> cool 13:52 <@rikersan\srn> !lastgame rikerw 13:52 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikerw/dnethack/dumplog/1527983233.dnh.txt 13:52 <@rikersan\srn> > h - an uncursed skeleton key named apparently you can only name chaos key as chaotic? that's dumb 13:53 my tools are like 13 candles and 2 magic markers and thats it 13:53 no bag, no key, no blindfold 13:53 (where "see Chaos" is defined as "Chaos has been created", and where THAT is defined as "The THIRD Chaos key has been generated") 13:53 no tonal, no unihorn 13:53 <@rikersan\srn> heh chris 13:54 <@rikersan\srn> do the keys stay in bones? 13:54 I think they do. 13:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27711 13:55 Oh, Lord Surtur gets a wand of striking? let's wait until he teleports away before crossing this drawbrtidge, shall we?? 13:55 geez that was a close one 13:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27712 13:56 first monster in the soko zoo was a saddled pony, i tamed it, it killed all other zoo monsters and is now a warhorse 13:56 <@rikersan\srn> niceee 13:59 When life gives you ponies, make horse-e-nade 13:59 dammit 13:59 <@rikersan\srn> make life take those ponies back! 13:59 <@rikersan\srn> get mad! I don't want your damn ponies, what the hell is a wizard supposed to do with these 14:00 if wishes were horses.. 14:00 * hothraxxa wishes for xnethack identification in vanilla as his fourth blessed scroll of id in a row identifies just two (count em 2) items 14:01 grrr 14:01 I've been sooo happy with xnethack's ID scrolls :3 14:01 <@rikersan\srn> Muad: if wishes were horses, I'd skip the castle entirely 14:01 <@rikersan\srn> now if horses were wishes that's a different matter... 14:01 me too, i like it 14:01 rikersan :) 14:02 NH is kind of a crazy world, where ponies grow up into horses. I mean, what IS that 14:02 how do I cast a spell in nh 1.3d? the in-game help doesn't mention how it's done :P 14:02 I actually thought ponies are just young horses for a while, having played nethack in my youth 14:02 probably have to hold the spellbook 14:02 dizzylizzy\ito: nah, I can #cast but there must be an easier hotkey 14:03 "There's gotta be a better way!" 14:03 why? 14:03 argh, if only raisse was here, she certainly knows it 14:03 <@rikersan\srn> "C"? 14:03 <@rikersan\srn> or 'c' 14:03 those are call item and call monster, respectively 14:03 <@rikersan\srn> hm 14:03 <@rikersan\srn> x' 14:04 <@rikersan\srn> 'x' to cast 14:04 <@kritixilithos> how old is nh 1.3d o_O 14:04 @kritixilithos: Message from @rikersan at 2018-05-28 20:30 EDT: @kritixilithos I have 'rikerw' and 'rikersan' on hdf, so I can have 2 games going (in addition, one has curses set and the other doesn't). I'm planning on only using rikersan but just in case I'm including both, no reason why not really (not like amy the clan admin cares) 14:04 @kritixilithos: Message from @rikersan at 2018-05-28 20:31 EDT: @kritixilithos also join amy's clan we are cool 14:04 x lists currently known spells but doesn't let me pick one to cast 14:04 <@rikersan\srn> 'X' is read spbk, 'x' is cast the spell 14:04 <@rikersan\srn> oh really 14:04 <@rikersan\srn> hm 14:04 well, I wish it was like that 14:04 oh well, gotta use the arduous #cast method 14:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28082 14:05 [hdf-us] [fh] Icebox (IceBox) (Val Hum Fem Law), 16364 points, T:692, poisoned by a rotted male fox corpse 14:05 why is numpad-5 "rest" in nh1.3d, this is ultra annoying for muscle memory 14:07 double bones level with infinigon and zid on dlvl2 14:07 wasn't 1.3d like, one developer? 14:08 probably lots of features without the benefit of a focus group 14:12 I thought there were patches coming from several developers, via usenet and/or email, applied by one person who was effectively acting as the VCS. 14:15 hmm NAO 3.6.1 does not select doors with _+, but it does work on hardfought - except here on Asmo's lair it only selects between the three western doors, not the one on the east? 14:21 <[Demo][srn]> hmm tyr gave me a war hammer of reflection 14:22 How helpful. 14:22 <@rikersan\srn> that's not horrid for a valk? 14:22 <@rikersan\srn> I mean, train the skill 14:23 <@Tone\ootc> hothraxxa: How does ID work in xnh? 14:23 There's just one problem with that: it's a war hammer. 14:23 <@rikersan\srn> true 14:23 So it does roughly the same amount of damage as a wielded rock. 14:23 <[Demo][srn]> i have a shield of reflection and power 14:23 <[Demo][srn]> its horrible 14:23 <@rikersan\srn> LOL 14:23 !dc 14 14:24 tone: cursed 1 item, uncursed 4 items, blessed 7 items, no spellbook 14:25 why am I male 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rikerw (Cave-man ### Mal ###) shouted "", on T:32 14:25 <[Demo][srn]> language jesus christ 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rikerw (Cave-man ### Mal ###) shouted "wait amy can bitch from _inside_ nethack too? who added", on T:32 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rikerw (Cave-man ### Mal ###) shouted "this to 1.3d smh", on T:32 14:26 <@rikersan\srn> amy I read transcripts 14:27 <@Tone\ootc> hothraxxa: Ah, okay. I'll have to try a few games of that to see how that is 14:27 <@Tone\ootc> It sounds pretty reasonable 14:27 i tink it's better once you make the adjustment 14:27 +h 14:27 <@Tone\ootc> Although I found almost no ID scrolls during my last game 14:27 <@Tone\ootc> I would have been screwed if I didn't get two full inventory IDs 14:27 well when i have no id scrolls they all identify my whole inventory 14:27 is shield of reflection considered magical for wishing purposes in unnethack nowadays? 14:28 <@Tone\ootc> 7 seems pretty reasonable though 14:28 <[Demo][srn]> no its mundane 14:28 thx 14:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:28345 14:29 <@Tone\ootc> It also forces you to be a little more clever about IDing items through other means 14:29 that was raisse's ghost 14:30 sweet, got the +3 14:31 clearly should have asked for +5 14:31 ikr 14:31 grasshopper has convinced me to always go for +5 14:32 <[Demo][srn]> i think im actually playing dyna 14:32 ewwwww colour alchemy 14:32 makes my head hurt 14:33 <[Demo][srn]> does the bot know dyna monsters? 14:34 do YOU know dyna monsters? *cough*wyvernlindworm*cough* 14:34 <[Demo][srn]> no i dont at all 14:34 <[Demo][srn]> im wearing dragon scales that i have no idea what they do 14:34 heh 14:35 the dragons are randomized so you can't reliably wish for mr or reflection 14:35 <[Demo][srn]> isnt reflection useless? 14:35 <[Demo][srn]> it doesnt even work on hell hound breath! 14:35 i don't recall it being useless 14:35 <[Demo][srn]> its not doing much for me 14:35 <[Demo][srn]> breaths still hit me 14:36 isn't it partial like everything else? 14:36 i forget 14:36 what i remember is ascending wishless because why bother? 14:37 <[Demo][srn]> how hard are gehennom fights? 14:37 can be pretty tough 14:37 Muad\ito: wait, ponies *aren't* just not-full-grown horses? 14:37 i always go for the chromatic dragon scales though 14:37 <[Demo][srn]> where would i get those? 14:38 near the bottom there's a lair 14:38 By killing chromatic dragons? 14:38 <[Demo][srn]> you dont just find a chromatic dragon jonadab 14:38 aosdict\ito: did you add this... trying to pick up a gravestone, game says "You don't need a gravestone. Yet." 14:38 <[Demo][srn]> or at least i havent so far 14:39 dizzylizzy\ito: No, unfortunately I would love to claim that as my own invention, but that's been in nethack for a while 14:39 But try digging a pit in a graveyard and falling into it :) 14:40 aosdict\ito, they are not! this suggests kittens don't grow up either 14:40 Huh 14:40 Muad\ito: Well I guess calling them "foals" would be weird sounding 14:40 demo: iirc, there's a dragon caves branch 14:40 <[Demo][srn]> yeah there is 14:40 with multiple chromatic dragons 14:40 The bullwhip wraps around Excalibur you're wielding!- 14:40 <@rikersan\srn> RIP 14:40 i knew that this was about to happen 14:40 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 14:41 <@rikersan\srn> LOL tariru is gonna ascend slex again? 14:41 <@rikersan\srn> !whereis tarirur 14:41 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-us] tarirur is not currently playing on this server. 14:41 Muad\ito: that retroactively makes LOTR (and The Hobbit?) make a bit more sense where the hobbits take/ride ponies 14:41 <@rikersan\srn> !whereis tariru 14:41 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-us] tariru is not currently playing on this server. 14:41 @rikersan\srn: [hdf-eu] Tariru [slex]: (Arc Esp Mal Cha) T:50731 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 14:41 what? you didn't grease your excalibur? 14:41 @d?Durin's Bane 14:41 Durin's Bane (&) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 7 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: -20 | Attacks: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon fire, 11d11 suicide explode fire | Alignment: -14 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, infravisible 14:43 I sure hope that counts as "having entered Hell"... 14:44 well. 14:44 durins bane read scrolls of recall 14:44 with my exca 14:45 word of recall* 14:45 Mmhmm 14:46 <[Demo][srn]> asmo down, i figure hes an easier fight? 14:46 in dyna? same as vanilla i thought 14:48 i can't recall whether demogorgon has a lair in dyna 14:48 yeenoghu does for sure 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 24 points, T:554, killed by a fox 14:51 <[Demo][srn]> demo doesnt 14:51 <[Demo][srn]> isnt yeen a bitch? 14:51 <[Demo][srn]> demo did at one point 14:51 <[Demo][srn]> but tungtn removed it 14:51 <[Demo][srn]> replaced demo with a marilith or nalf i cant recall 14:52 the only one that scares me is demo 14:52 demo got me in grunthack 14:52 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52 mistakes were made 14:53 stun lock and i was done 14:54 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55 <@luxidream> Hi 14:55 Hello @luxidream, Welcome to #hardfought 14:55 @luxidream: Message from K2 at 2018-06-04 07:03 EDT: i'll have a look 14:55 @luxidream: Message from K2 at 2018-06-04 07:19 EDT: like before, there's no way I can see to manipulate the dynahack save to fix your crash. I can ask FIQ to have a look, he might see something I don't, but I recommend you treat dynahack as a 'play at your own risk' variant. Wish I had a better answer for you 14:55 * K2 pets Demogorgon 14:56 :/ 14:56 <@luxidream> alright. I was hoping a solution was a little more obvious this time, but it’s ok 14:57 FIQ hasnt looked at it yet 14:57 i need to ask him 14:57 FIQ do you mind looking at a dynahack save that keeps crashing on load? 14:57 <[Demo][srn]> hey luxidream got any tips for dyna gehennom and endgame? 14:58 <@luxidream> Cthulhu is a a bitch 14:58 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 14:58 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:58 -!- NCommander has quit [Changing host] 14:58 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 14:58 <@luxidream> bring cursed gainlev 14:59 <[Demo][srn]> ok thanks 14:59 <[Demo][srn]> ok cool i can throw mjolnir at him 14:59 <@luxidream> He teleports to you and melees you 15:00 <@luxidream> He is not a demon here. Zap death, gainlev out 15:00 <[Demo][srn]> yikes, havent found death yet 15:00 he reconstitutes. be fast 15:00 <[Demo][srn]> how fast does he reconstitute? 15:00 <[Demo][srn]> 10-15 turns or 30-40 or what kinda range? 15:00 i'm not sure, i always leave immediately 15:00 <@luxidream> At least once if you’re walking out of sanctum 15:01 <@luxidream> If you kill him before he wakes up, almost immediately 15:01 <[Demo][srn]> oh he is covetous? 15:01 <@luxidream> yes 15:01 <[Demo][srn]> fuck ok 15:01 i've never faed him without cursed gain level 15:01 +c 15:01 wand of death for the win 15:01 because SCARED 15:02 <@luxidream> he always has a potion of full healing, I would not recommend melee 15:02 well he flays your wee mind 15:03 so melee, not recommended 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> ok 15:04 <@Tone\ootc> Covetous brain sucker? That's evil 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> sounds to me like those things are basically mandatory then 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> just like free action is in dnh 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> and if you play sanctum without mandatory things 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> oh wait amy went to be lmao 15:04 <[Demo][srn]> bed 15:05 elder priest ftw! 15:05 <@luxidream> you can get away without gain level 15:05 <@luxidream> just expect to kill him again, maybe twice 15:05 <[Demo][srn]> yeah im not about that 15:06 <[Demo][srn]> im all for spending the least amount of time around the worst monster 15:08 <@Tone\ootc> What else does he do? 15:09 <@luxidream> bear hug, confusion gaze 15:09 invites you for coffee and then wraps his cuddly tentacles around your head 15:09 aww, it's just a lil face hug! 15:10 does the ammy teleport when dropped in dyna 15:10 wish list: that somebody someday takes dynahack and brings it up to speed with unnethack 5.3.1 (adding sheol for example) and uses FIQhack as the base 15:10 [hdf-us] [spl] jonadab (Tou Ang Mal Cha), 164 points, T:1597, killed by a hobbit 15:10 just port it over 15:11 incorporating fh features would mean most would no longer consider it dynahack 15:11 <@luxidream> FIQhack QoL is pretty similar to dyna stuff 15:12 <@luxidream> not as extensive in dyna of course 15:12 aosdict\ito you disable the fh features that dont exist in dynahack 15:12 so you mean do the nh4 rebase that ais and jonadab talk about 15:12 yeah 15:13 dynahack has some original features 15:15 <[Demo][srn]> beez down! 15:16 K2: Someone needs to do a 1:1 ish vanilla rewrite into C90 and have everybody rebase onto it 15:17 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18 <[Demo][srn]> why is orcus level dumb 15:22 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law) had war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5980 15:25 <[Demo][srn]> cool trapped yeng and orcus on dragon lvl 15:26 zid` what's the benefit of doing that? <--- not a programmer 15:26 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:27 K2: Not many people know NetHack's pre-ANSI C idiom. # that said this is not a good idea because it would be a shitload of work 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35905 15:27 <[Demo][srn]> wiat what the fuck he got back how... 15:28 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:28 Pinkbeast gotcha 15:28 zid`: Pretty sure the devteam will be letting that happen in vanilla from here on out. 15:28 Oh, wait, C90. 15:29 Well, they'll be letting it happen for C89 at least. 15:29 It's a better idea than the "let's rewrite in C++ and sprinkle magic OO pixie dust" one that does the rounds now and then, at least 15:30 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: is there a way to stop my character from eating through boulders and doors? 15:30 <@Winsalot> Like I can 15:30 <@Winsalot> 't even fast travel 15:30 Going from nethack C to C89 is not *that* involved. 15:30 Remove the STATIC_DECL and all that garbage on all functions, yes, but that's largely a repetitive process. 15:31 Maybe remove the register and volatile keywords, where they exist. 15:31 aosdict\ito: To be clear, I think it's an excellent idea to start writing new bits in a modern idiom, I just think it would be a waste to do any active rewriting. Anyone who's interested in hacking on NetHack gets used to it. 15:31 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:31 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie\splat 15:31 (there are only 2 volatile variables in the whole nethack codebase, inside an #ifdef GCC_BUG) 15:31 that's the sort of boring maintenance/anti-crufting I'd love to do to the codebase 15:32 Pinkbeast: Eh, making the functions easier to read to modern eyes is a good thing. 15:32 dizzylizzy\ito: always worth asking the devteam, in mail or to paxed, whether they'd accept a pull request like that, I guess. 15:32 somebody should rewrite nethack in common lisp, call it lambadhack 15:32 lambdahack* 15:33 (I say paxed because he's the most likely to do something like that among active DT members) 15:33 ehh, I'll work on it in my spare time and if anything ever comes of it I'll try to move forward 15:33 <[Demo][srn]> yey yeng down 15:33 I have an incomplete pull request up on github with the goal of documenting all the level generation functions. I paused when I got to sp_lev.c 15:34 haha have fun with sp_lev 15:34 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 15:34 the .des parsing code is in there right? 15:35 i'm too tired to look... I should take a nap and then get on with gehennom 15:35 I think also (I'm _not_ saying this about anyone in this discussion) IME when people propose large rewrites to make everything "correct" one often finds they know just enough to be dangerous 15:35 super excited to see xnh gehennom :) 15:35 Pinkbeast: that's part of what I'm afraid of. the last thing I'd want to do is ruffle feathers 15:37 eg we had someone recently wanting to use floating-point functions for log(2) because they'd never seen the iterated-shift idiom before 15:39 dizzylizzy\ito: I thought you had already visited xnh gehennom? 15:39 dizzylizzy\ito xnethack gehennom is pretty friggin cool 15:39 one of my fav features of the variant 15:39 i like it 15:39 bring a swimsuit 15:39 man everyone gets so worked up over rooms. They're just rooms, guys! 15:39 evening world 15:39 aosdict\ito its not just the rooms 15:40 How did xnh change gehennom? 15:40 play it NCommander 15:40 ;) 15:40 K2, I have a lot of trouble without the QoL fixe from NH4/FIQHack 15:40 personally, going through xnh gehennom in my own game, I think there is still WAAAY too much maze. 15:40 xnh has many of those 15:41 qol i mean 15:41 ^ that 15:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:41 oh and didnt FIQ port over xnethack's gehennom level generation code? 15:41 i think he did 15:43 yes 15:43 <@Winsalot> Lol, was generated as permablind monster in slex 15:43 wait, so when I do flip it completely away from mazes into something more cavernous, what features of it now do people think I should keep? 15:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 47 points, T:244, killed by a sewer rat 15:45 keep pools/lava 15:45 cuz you know, hell 15:45 cause THAT went well 15:45 K2, FIQHacks gehennom was awesome 15:46 ooh aosdict\ito, recreate the city of Dis 15:46 abandon all hope, ye that enters here... 15:47 Holy shit 15:47 Dl:1 GoP 15:47 \o/ 15:52 Ok, K2, I pushed some crash fixes. And also fixed the enchant weapon/disintegrate weapon thing :/ 15:52 NCommander: Well, if fiqhack's gehennom was awesome, thanks! :) 15:52 ok Chris_ANG thanks 15:53 <[Demo][srn]> hmm these seem like vanilla demon lords 15:53 <[Demo][srn]> so pushovers... 15:54 dNetHack updated (all servers) 15:54 <[Demo][srn]> yey 15:56 <[Demo][srn]> geryon down 15:59 <[Demo][srn]> god there are so many filler levels 16:00 -!- eiyassa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 "plastic dwarven cloak" 16:02 xnh really changed 0.1->0.2 16:02 <[Demo][srn]> dispater, the megalich 16:04 <@Winsalot> !tell AmyBSOD\srn was generated a Thief that is permablind in normal form, but strong as fuck in monster form. Monster form can also lay eggs :D. This is gonna be fun. 16:04 Will do, @Winsalot! 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:36275 16:11 bugger summoned nasties, he had it coming 16:11 all of them 16:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Nob Hum Mal Law), 170 points, T:320, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:25 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:27 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:28 "Sigmund falls into a pit. Sigmund is killed!" 16:29 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30 two bags of holding in this votd graveyard, and three wraith corpses 16:30 sweet 16:30 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:30 [hdf-us] [fh] icebox (IceBox) (Val Hum Fem Law), 28545 points, T:2885, killed by a giant ant 16:30 already had two boh 16:31 one wraith dropped a wand of poly, so.... 16:32 * NCommander makes his way through sokoban 16:32 * NCommander finally found a lock pick 16:32 bones in Minetown but it was behind a locked door :( 16:32 NCommander, boot? 16:33 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33 Grasshopper, watch 16:33 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Loughrea on T:4645 16:33 /me gives NCommander a pair of blessed +5 boots of opening 16:34 I've lost one too many times against the minetown watch 16:34 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5106 points, T:4388, killed by a werewolf 16:34 NCommander, just do it when they aren't looking 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2182 16:35 lock them up! 16:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:35 anyway, killing the watch is why we have nice pets 16:36 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Manlobbi on T:4820 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 10 points, T:99, killed by a water demon 16:40 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 48 points, T:245, killed by a poisonous corpse 16:43 !rng binder | drow | dwarf 16:43 Tarmunora: binder 16:48 aosdict\ito, does xnh give you a choice of soko prize or is it fixed? 16:57 NCommander its fixed 16:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1757 16:57 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 17:01 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by vaffanculo! 17:11 NCommander: I intend to make it a choice eventually. 17:11 Perhaps reflection/boh/MR. 17:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1165 17:14 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 17:15 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20 white castle mini burgers are happiness 17:20 * NCommander has 30 minutes to kill 17:21 argh, forgot to eat, forgot I couldn't pray 17:28 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2503 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:37377 17:32 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 17:38 !rng 3 6 x l 17:38 raisse\splat: l 17:39 [hdf-us] [fh] Icebox (IceBox) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 30045 points, T:2061, killed by a gnome king 17:39 Crikey, I've forgotten how to play NetHack altogether these last 2 years 17:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 7725 points, T:6881, killed by a soldier ant 17:39 YASD 17:40 Pinkbeast: not too encouraging hearing that from one of the official playtesters :-P 17:40 hopefully you remember again by next time we have to put out a release ;-) 17:41 that said, places like Hardfought mean that we get a lot of playtesting from the general public, at least of the Linux version 17:41 (it's quite noticeable that 3.6.1's most reported/major bugs have been Windows-specific) 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Sceptre of Lolth, on T:5052 17:42 ais523: TBH (as in email) I tend to feel public servers make the beta testers kind of obsolete (OS-specific bugs aside) but no, I'm carefully testing code paths that the Marvins of this world never touch. :-) 17:43 oh heya ais523 17:43 you playing junethack? 17:44 zid`: not yet; I might later, haven't decided yet 17:44 it depends on how busy work is and how much ability I have to concentrate, I'd rather do something long-term productive if I can 17:44 stenno made me join his team so I got all the 3.4.3 stuff (I got disgrace instead of ascend though) 17:44 just join stenno's thing and hammer out a 3.6.1 ascension or something, medsua kills are counted for clan stats :P 17:44 but that takes ~10 hours and is only 50:50 to work 17:45 also I'm possibly really tired right now, it was really noisy outside while I was trying to sleep so I was drifting in and out and am not sure how much sleep I've had 17:45 perhaps not the best situation to be playing NetHack, at least if you care about the character 17:46 I'm hoping to keep my recent tournament asc rate of ~50%, as I feel that's a valid reflection of what my skills are like (not good enough to streak, but good enough to be likely to win if I play well) 17:46 I guess I'll do some writing, doing that in a text editor means that if I'm tired and write nonsense I can correct it latear 17:46 50% is good enough to get an 8 streak if you play a few hundred games ;) 17:47 there's a 50:50 chance within approximately (256+7)×ln(2) 17:48 so around 182 games 17:48 I don't have time to play that many this month :-P 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:7295 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38018 18:00 Pinkbeast: crikey?? I guess you're aware we have an Australian server now :) 18:00 Tangles: Not really since I live approximately as far from Australia as possible 18:02 Ah so the word crikey is now in the international vocabulary. Nice. 18:02 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:03 I think it's been in British English as long as I can remember 18:03 Yeah probably originated somewhere else. Most Australianisms (and Australians for that matter) did. 18:04 it's associated with Australia but not unheard of here 18:04 Isn't " 18:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Profaned Greatscythe, on T:6844 18:04 Isn't "crikey" used in one of C.S. Lewis' books? 18:05 Also, I think it is used in one of the first four Bagthorpe books. 18:05 Anyway, one of the downsirdes of being Australian is it's now 8am (which is a truly hateful time at this time of year), and I have a meeting to get to. 18:05 These are both definitely of British origin. 18:06 back later. 18:08 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha), 45693 points, T:5814, killed by a small aklys 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed historic partly eaten magic marker named jean giraud", on T:38307 18:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 18:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:7769 18:31 !ping 18:31 Grasshopper: Pong! 18:31 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:8473 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:38740 18:48 crap 18:48 displaced my pet into water 18:48 RIP mirkwood spider 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:38861 18:52 oh great, got blinded and walked into a friendly peaceful gnome 18:52 ...who had decided to jump into a polytrap and turn into a lich 18:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:9774 19:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:30131 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2581 points, T:5780, killed by a wolf 19:14 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:14 hi 19:14 Hello bouquet, Welcome to #hardfought 19:14 bouquet: Message from Tangles at 2018-06-04 11:46 EDT: I can reproduce the identify problem using your save, and yes it seems to only happen with curses interface. Could not repro the remove curse issue at all (but maybe not enough cursed items). 19:14 bouquet: Message from Tangles at 2018-06-04 11:47 EDT: I'll run it in a debugger tomorrow to try to figure out exactly what's going on. 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40017 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40020 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 125 points, T:473, killed by a water moccasin 19:31 -!- Tariru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38 oh snap... anyone notice this? 19:38 'Microsoft is acquiring GitHub! Read our blog and Satya Nadella's post to learn more' 19:39 just read this on github 19:39 i was right 19:39 github is not to be trusted with my serious work 19:39 My roommate said "What's the big deal?" 19:39 wonder if it'll stay free... 19:39 "MS has had a recent history of buying up developer-oriented projects and treating them pretty well" 19:39 yes microsoft loves open source 19:39 I miss gitorious 19:39 they got other ppls work for free 19:40 alright rebooting shit cause x session ran out of ram and died 19:41 I never really liked Github or Gitlab 19:41 that's why I host my Git repos on my own server nowadays (just the repo itself, no file browser or anything like that) 19:41 -!- [Demo][srn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 19:42 -!- Demo__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42 stenno be hidin 19:42 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 19:42 ais523: why not that beautiful gitweb listing? ;) 19:43 -!- [Demo][srn] has joined #hardfought 19:43 I prefer to run as little on my server as possible, especially if it responds to requests from outside 19:43 unless I start being pushed crap through github I'll probably won't do anything 19:43 I don't have all that much time as it is, so keeping the attack surface small means that the server needs less active admin-ing 19:43 -!- Demo[srn] has joined #hardfought 19:44 github makes loss I believe 19:44 so something will change to make not make loss 19:44 I think 19:45 one of the top theories I've seen is that it'll be used to advertise for Azure (probably with close Azure/Github integration) 19:45 nice, my first zombie dragon in a serious grunthack game 19:45 that might not be terrible, at least if you can just ignore that part of things 19:46 oh sure, YOU can ignore zombie dragons 19:48 was replying to Adeon, not K2 :-) 19:49 ;) 19:49 was yanking your chain, not serious 19:51 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10888 19:51 heh 19:51 something else killed it 19:52 all living monsters hate zombies in grunthack and vice versa 19:52 K2: OK, now you have to be really scared, there's something out there capable of killing a zombie dragon 19:52 it was the chameleon i think 19:53 but it changed into something i was able to two-hit and kill 19:54 damn I loves me some Mjollnir 19:55 its so choice 19:55 [hdf-us] [un] Tmasher (Val Hum Fem Law), 17642 points, T:6045, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 19:56 <[Demo][srn]> ok so i must have scales that give me stoning resistance 19:56 <[Demo][srn]> i am pleased 19:59 K2: I've seen a lot of people saying time to move away from github. 20:00 whats a better alternative? 20:00 but if all your github stuff is public, like mine is... 20:00 right 20:00 i personnaly dont have anything up that isnt free for public use 20:00 technically i dont have anything up at all 20:00 then it's really just, now microsoft can do stuff like data-mine your IP addresses and stuff 20:00 its all Tangles repo 20:01 browser fingerprints, etc 20:01 without you visiting microsoft pages 20:01 * K2 shrugs 20:01 nothing to hide 20:01 besides, if you use windows (like I do), the OS already phones home as it were 20:01 as long as you don't have a complex web of integrations, one could move away from github at any time without too much trouble 20:02 also keep in mind, vanilla nethack (as well as several variants) stamp the version with github commit hash 20:04 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 20:05 K2: that's nothing to do with github, just git 20:06 hah 20:06 i thought... ah nevermind 20:06 github could vanish without any effect on vanilla (other than it being less visible to the community), because the "primary" repository is on sourceforge, the github mirror is just a mirror 20:07 and of course git is decentralised so with multiple people working on the same thing, nothing forces them to use the same repository hosts 20:07 * K2 is yet again showing how much of a programming beginner he is 20:07 i thought git and github were synonymous 20:08 <[Demo][srn]> nope 20:08 well... learned something new today. good 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] dizzylizzy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4753 points, T:4149, killed by a panther 20:09 oh wait, guess what exists in 343? ELBY. :-/ 20:10 K2: don't feel too bad about not understanding git, github don't either :-P 20:11 hahahah 20:11 thanks ;) 20:11 one possible good thing that may come out of the Microsoft acquisition is that there's a chance that Github will now have someone who knows how git actually works 20:14 -!- tacco| has quit [] 20:16 K2: Github did a good job associating "GitHub" with plain "Git". 20:17 yeah 20:17 git was designed to be complicated to create jobs *ducks* 20:19 i hate how the mathml rendering site often shits itself and u get 502 errors in the nethackwiki pages 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] TLar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3043 20:30 Junethack: New user lapis registered! https://junethack.net/user/lapis 20:34 woot 4 points protection first offering 20:36 <[Demo][srn]> uh oh 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed historic fixed greased magic marker named h.r. giger", on T:40442 20:42 <[Demo][srn]> fount the 'bratin square 20:43 whooaaa dynahack gehennom is baller 20:43 <[Demo][srn]> is it? 20:43 I really like it, anyway. Looks more like hell than vanilla 20:44 <[Demo][srn]> yeah its actually pretty impressive 20:46 on April 1st, 00:00 to 23:59, NetHack should call different level generation functions and behave like a variant 20:46 as a praaaaank 20:46 ...I don't understand pranks very well 20:47 :-) 20:47 although that's given me an idea, actually 20:47 ...uh oh] 20:47 make it so that on April 1, a lot of things are subtly changed, not enough to really pay attention to 20:48 things like messages using slightly different grammar 20:48 or the map generator being slightly different 20:48 objects you throw at a wall bounce back into your inventory 20:48 making people wonder if there's been an update 20:48 dizzylizzy\ito: hmm, that might be exploitable? not sure 20:48 I guess it's similar to the new aklys behaviour 20:48 Hmm good point, best to stick with things that don't alter gameplay 20:50 <[Demo][srn]> the new aklys behavior? 20:50 mjollnir returning when thrown 20:50 like a boomerang but not 20:50 an aklys is basically a club on a string 20:51 so in 3.6.1 you can (and automatically do) use the string to pull the akyls back towards you after throwing it 20:51 I don't know whether or not this is enough to make akyls-based strategies viable, but probably not 20:51 refer to it as a yo-yo on april 1st 20:52 <[Demo][srn]> lets see the offical DT code to ghetto that into working 20:53 I haven't looked at it myself 20:54 <[Demo][srn]> oh neat, they removed the we must be wearing Gauntlets of Power to get here comment 20:56 ais523: I'm interested to see if it makes kiting slow monsters viable again. 20:56 aosdict\ito: "outrun and outrange" is the standard/generalised form of kiting, I don't see any reason that shouldn't work as it works it real life 20:56 ais523: Problem with akyls is that it 'has' to be a trash weapon 20:56 because gnomes often carry them 20:56 you can probably do it even in 3.6.0, if the monster is slow enough relative to you 20:57 zid`: dagger is not a trash weapon, and those are really common 20:57 might as well be a twig, it serves that practical purpose 20:57 but that's mostly because of multishot 20:57 they tend to toss them at you, badly 20:57 if they were hitting you with katanas you'd die a lot in the mines :P 20:57 perhaps ranged weapons need to be more enchantment-sensitive 20:57 (again, daggers do this well due to multishot) 20:57 YASI: samurai gnomes. 20:58 aosdict\ito: as monsters or playable characters? 20:58 what do you mean by enchantment sensitive? 20:58 a +7 quarterstaff, say, does 7 extra damage 20:58 scale better? 20:58 yea 20:58 a set of +7 daggers will do a lot more than 7 extra damage 20:58 as you hit with more than one per attack, usually 20:58 if an aklys had a chance to stagger the opponent it'd be VERY good against things like werefoo etc 20:58 to stop them getting into range 20:58 if you could just stunlock an individual monster with it 20:59 when thrown 20:59 perhaps blunt weapons should have a chance of causing the target to be unable to move for a turn? 20:59 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 20:59 zid`: I feel like we had this discussion with Pinkbeast 20:59 as long as gnomes didn't throw them preferentially over daggers it'd work well 20:59 that seems in-flavour, it doesn't seem to screw over the player that much 20:59 ais523: yeah we definitely had this discussion with Pinkbeast 20:59 and yet it'd give the aklys a niche 20:59 qstaves can shatter opponent's weapons 20:59 so it's already canon 20:59 that sounds like a nerf :-D 21:00 many people don't like fire brand because it destroys enemy items 21:01 "ascended with all the invocation items", you know, I don't think i've ever *not* done that 21:02 unless you're playing pacifist there's rarely a strategy reason to take the Book with you 21:02 <[Demo][srn]> its heavy yeah 21:02 and the Candelabrum is kind-of clunky as light sources go 21:02 because wtf am I picking up inbetween the amulet and ascending though 21:02 if I had the capacity to have them all in open inventory in the first place 21:02 the Bell is normally worth it as a /oSDD substitute, at least until it runs out 21:02 that isn't suddenly going to stop 21:02 anyway there was a sizeable discussion about what special benefits can we give weapons that make them more differentiated than just their dice? 21:03 if anything I get lighter, due to eating food and using potions 21:03 zid`: plenty of people have an "ascension stash" that they stop off at during the ascension run 21:03 containing the things they need for the Planes 21:03 even I do that sometimes 21:03 oh.. I just do that before I wake rodney 21:03 who knows what junk I might need :D 21:03 I always forget /oSDD otherwise 21:03 well, it means that you can refill on weight that you used escaping Gehennom 21:04 I guess, but I've never actually used anything beyond a single healing potion and gold det scrolls 21:04 on the planes 21:08 <[Demo][srn]> didnt realize windowless tower came from unnethack 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:59219 21:13 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 21:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:24185 21:13 blammo 21:13 oh steno returns 21:13 stenno\ito: Got a good nethack4 game running 21:14 you just jinxed it 21:14 MR + reflection + excal valk with fire/lightning wands, just needs an instrument 21:14 never talk about how good your game is going. the RNG is always listening 21:16 fite me irl 21:16 hahah 21:16 NH4's RNG is different from vanilla's 21:17 I'm not sure if it pays as much attention to IRC 21:17 aosdict\ito: i thought you had cheat codes for your own varianttt 21:17 ais523 I hope you're right 21:17 oh wait I misread that, I thought it said you were killed BY orcus 21:18 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:18 <[Demo][srn]> fucking what fuck you dynahack 21:18 <[Demo][srn]> you rusted my helmet awya 21:19 dizzylizzy\ito: k k j j h l h l B A Enter 21:19 wait, is B seriously not bound to anything? Huh. 21:19 it's a cheat code in nethack-tas-tools 21:19 one of the few keys we had free :-D 21:20 (the TAS uses numpad controls but uses the main keypad numbers to use them, as this is technically the fastest form of movement in the game when you're limited by the keyboard controller's bandwidth)) 21:21 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 21:22 I'm redesigning the wizard's tower, I hope he likes i 21:22 it 21:22 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:60078 21:26 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:36 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] jmcunx (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 444 points, T:1625, killed by a small mimic 21:40 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a trapper, on T:14862 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:60911 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:60911 21:49 haha 21:49 you've got the powahhh 21:49 gorsh I wish I didn't have to sleep so darn much 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:60953 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:60954 21:58 Tangles around? 22:01 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:01 !tell Tangles let me know when the curses fix is live and I'll read some more scrolls. 22:01 Will do, bouquet! 22:03 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:15441 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:61083 22:06 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 22:07 -!- khoR_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:07 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 100 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:61675 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 100 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:62013 22:20 That princes of all demonkind will accept bribes about 1/10th as I regularly find just walking around in random corridors is honestly pretty funny 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided cockatrice, on T:62167 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2514 points, T:4813, killed by a rock mole, while fainted from lack of food 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62325 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62327 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:62572 22:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:36975 22:31 in xnh they're a lot more demanding. Asmo just asked me for 10k 22:31 ... and I just punched Jubilex to death. Didn't even engulf me. 22:32 bouquet: I had a busy evening yesterday, and didn't get to look at it until about 1am. I should get a better run at it tonight. Sorry for the delay. In the meantime you can always go back to the tty interface while reading scrolls? 22:32 Tangles: Message from bouquet at 2018-06-04 22:01 EDT: let me know when the curses fix is live and I'll read some more scrolls. 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "drum of earthquake", on T:63157 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63160 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63160 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:63207 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63387 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63388 22:46 Tangles - good thinking! 22:47 give me curses or give me death! 22:47 or maybe just a noogie 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:64042 22:52 heh 22:54 GruntHack updated (all servers) 23:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1476 23:05 Grunthack fix was for a hitpointbar issue with the tty interface, if anyone's interested. It was possible to crash the game if your MaxHP got to zero. An attempted fix was made for this a couple of days ago, but this completely broke hitpointbar rendering. Today's fix resolves it properly. 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64957 23:07 thanks Tangles 23:08 did someone divide by health 23:08 to try get the proportion of health remaining 23:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:38900 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:65306 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65306 23:09 zid`: hp/hpmax, yeah. 23:10 Hmm where to go in my game.. deeper or less deep 23:10 I could go back to minetown and id all my trash and come back, or just keep diving until I find an instrument.. 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65399 23:11 wtf gunna die 23:12 almost died to trying to eat a troll, it was so awful tasting I passed out, he came back to life and nearly ruined me 23:12 ugh. trolls. 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:65456 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:65458 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:65507 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:65533 23:18 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:65555 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:65573 23:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] Emperor (Luxidream) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 122612 points, T:35564, killed by Ms. One-eyed Sam, the shopkeeper 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:65588 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2246576 points, T:65608, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/Cropper/nh361/dumplog/1527980218.nh361.txt 23:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:39202 23:30 wow, haven't seen a swamp room at all and I've just found 3 on the same level 23:41 Yay Cropper!! 23:42 zid`: that's how swamp levels generate 23:42 with clusters of those rooms, usually 23:42 ah that explains that then 23:53 Not a bad leprechaun haul I suppose.. 10k zorkmids from a single room