00:03 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 469 points, T:984, orc 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:14325 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14325 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:14335 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:14337 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:14342 00:20 nice 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:14359 00:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:25 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:29 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:27840 00:33 [hdf-us] [dyn] Strength (Luxidream) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 953 points, T:17728, killed by a priestess of Set, while paralyzed by a monster 00:39 * NCommander waves 00:42 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44 wait a minute 00:44 HDFBot is an actual bot? 00:45 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:46480 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:46482 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:46484 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:46485 00:45 -!- MisteryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:46566 00:48 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 00:50 the fort here is really unfriendly 00:50 * NCommander desperately needs reflection 00:54 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 00:57 * bug_sniper gives NCommander a mirror 00:57 :P 00:57 * NCommander is up to 5 points of protection 00:57 yay 00:57 now make a shield out of it 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:28057 00:58 Game is being really stingy with identity 00:59 * NCommander has seen two scrolls of ID all game 01:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:20996 01:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:14 -!- xiella\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:30220 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:59818 01:22 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:26 "slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon" <-- omg best message 01:28 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated Lord Surtur, on T:22401 01:29 I feel so feckless 01:29 j - a tin of male Lord Surtur meat. 01:29 got my quest artifact 01:30 * NCommander also got the orb of weight 01:31 ooh ooh, I should name my tin openers Hercule Poirot, b/c it's gonna crack this thing wide open! 01:31 joookes 01:33 * NCommander needs to seriously clean out the inventory 01:33 bloody orb of weight 01:36 "magic bag" ... 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:32887 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] HDFBot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7791406 points, T:64373, escaped (with a fake Amulet) 01:39 Ouch 01:40 Junethack: New user gianseer registered! https://junethack.net/user/gianseer 01:40 WOOHOO 01:41 * NCommander discovered teleport control ring 01:41 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 01:42 pity I've got a single sink in my entire dungeon 01:46 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:56 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:06 gah 02:08 !lastgame 02:08 raisse: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HDFBot/nh343/dumplog/1527998380.nh343.txt 02:08 raisse: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/xnethack/dumplog/1527970971.xnh.txt 02:08 raisse: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/m/max383/nh343/dumplog/1527991771.nh343.txt 02:30 oh THAT'S unfriendly 02:30 Throne room with three dragons 02:30 and I don't have MR or reflection yet 02:41 Ok, found medusa 02:41 Bleh 02:41 Only way I have to get to her is to dig down and come back up 02:42 THere's no possible way THAT could go wrong :P 02:45 $!@# 02:45 Medusa escaped 02:45 And is on the far side of the castle 02:48 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 02:49 ok, annoying but not the end of the world 02:49 * NCommander finally has a source of reflection 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:41870 02:54 * NCommander is mulling if polypiling is the answer 02:54 I have a path open to the Castle ... 03:07 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 03:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:07 NCommander, take the shot 03:09 Grasshopper, well, I got a silver dragon that I may be able to kill 03:09 Lucius is doable 03:09 but scary 03:12 ugh, that was scary 03:15 easy if you have reflection 03:15 otherwise... scary 03:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:31 lol, ivory ring is conflict 03:34 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated Croesus, on T:30172 03:36 time for some grasshack 03:36 it is a variant with more hack and less net, and more grass as well 03:37 mooooooooooooore graaaaaasssssssss 03:41 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 03:42 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 03:46 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:46 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated Medusa, on T:31072 03:47 oh handy 03:51 Castle is nearly cleared out 03:59 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by max383! 04:05 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:06 goddamn 04:07 That's a serious mess 04:07 * NCommander is going to need a LOT of time to sort out this Castle and put an ascension kit together 04:09 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:11 !seen AmyBSOD 04:11 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:13 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:22 God, I get down to the castle 04:22 and I've got shit for an asc kit 04:22 :/ 04:25 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:47 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour" unlocked by max383! 04:49 <@Winsalot> !tell AmyBSOD\srn Notice how I have more slex trophies than you? ^^ 04:49 Will do, @Winsalot! 04:50 well duh Winsalot you old traitor, I didn't finish my slex game yet :P once I do, I'll have the vecna trophy! 04:50 AmyBSOD\srn: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-06-03 04:49 EDT: Notice how I have more slex trophies than you? ^^ 04:53 !tell lorimer it would be nice if dipping a wakizashi into a potion gives "covered by a thick layer of grease", it would either identify the potion or at the very least prompt me to name it! :( 04:53 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 05:01 oh god, sporkhack makes it so that if you use R to take off accessories and you're only wearing one, it takes it off with no prompt *and you cannot change that in the options*??? lorimer: fix plz :P 05:06 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:17 The Uruk-hai shoots 2 poisoned orcish arrows! The 1st poisoned orcish arrow hits the mountain nymph.The 2nd poisoned orcish arrow hits the mountain nymph. The poison was deadly... The mountain nymph is killed! 05:17 lorimer: I thought poison instadeath wasn't a thing in spork... 05:18 <@Winsalot> Hm, tried to create conway's game of life in c++. It compiles and runs, but is extremely slow and doesn't behave like game of life should behave. 😦 05:19 @Winsalot: you should play more nethack, it's june after all! :P 05:19 <@Winsalot> Nah, I want to code now. 05:20 <@Winsalot> But damn, I feel like a retard. 05:20 so obviously monsters will pick up the amulet of reflection in spork's sokoban... 05:21 I sure hope I still get the trophy for picking it up, because if not... :P 05:27 <@Winsalot> Anyone here experienced with c++? Need some guidance 05:27 <@Winsalot> This is nethack devs channel after all 05:28 -!- Mandevil\splat has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:33 !tell lorimer The gnome that runs the minetown tool shop must have quaffed gain level, becoming a gnome king, and now he no longer acts as a shopkeeper. I can take everything without getting charged. 05:33 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 05:38 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 05:46 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:48 -!- Mandevil\split has joined #hardfought 05:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil\split] by ChanServ 05:48 K2: You know what would be nice? If the watching menu (list of players currently playing) would auto-refresh. 06:09 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:16 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by Minoru! 06:24 K2: pushed a fix for the all-autopickup-options-deleted segfault. 06:24 jonadab: Message from AmyBSOD\srn at 2018-06-02 16:23 EDT: I crashed upon entering Fourk's astral plane. Here's a screenshot: https://abload.de/img/astralplanefourkcrashs9syb.png - what happened there? 06:27 Let me guess... there was a bug? 06:27 s/was/is/ 06:27 Plausible. 06:28 Perhaps something in rnd_class() 06:28 Haven't looked at that one yet; I was prioritizing the segfault. 06:29 Ah, no, looks like maybe it's wherever rnd_class() is called that's doing something wonky, perhaps. 06:29 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:30 Hmm, 104,98 06:32 PLATE_MAIL and CHAIN_MAIL respectively. 06:34 Looks like the game was trying to create a Barbarian player-character monster. 06:34 This should be a straightforward fix. 06:34 thanks jonadab 06:35 Mandevil\split dgl auto refresh for watch menu would be nice, agreed 06:36 ... and pushed a fix for the player-character-monster Barbarian armor impossible(). 06:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:39 great 06:39 lets update 06:45 NetHack Fourk updated (all servers) 06:51 QIFhack unfortunately has a looooong drought period where you can get no trophies at all after getting this first one :( 06:51 FIQ: can you please add Nethack Fourk's earlygame trophies? ;) 06:54 man, FIQhack and its partial resistances 06:55 I want to genocide tab confirmation 07:05 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:06 FIQ: your Elbereth change sucks :P 07:06 FIQhack confirmed nh361 in disguise 07:06 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 07:08 YABI: FAQhack, a variant where people are *frequently* asking questions, b/c they can't figure out basic aspects of it or how it relates to nethack in any meaningful way 07:09 EPI: FAQhack with force-fed tutorials and "helpful" messages that require you to press space, tab or some other key at random and only that key will make the messages go away, and even that doesn't work unless it's at least 10 seconds ago that the message appeared, because you should take your time to read it. :P 07:10 you really should 07:10 ugh how does FIQhack sokoban work? it has two sokozoo alcoves blocked by boulders... 07:11 does that mean the prize is behind the third one? or are there better prizes for those who are willing to break the boulders? 07:11 oh they're mimics 07:12 maybe someone Wisdom of Solomon'd the ammy/bag and you have to combine the two pieces 07:12 oh 07:12 well I sure hope the bag is still a bag of holding and not oilskin or some other useless crap 07:12 ah, good, it is :) 07:19 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 07:20 !tell FIQ "The dwarf zaps a forked wand, which suddenly explodes! Your conscience bothers you... The dwarf is caught in the ball of cold! The dwarf is killed!" fix plz, I didn't do nothing and you're reducing my alignment??? 07:20 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 07:21 yet another case of FIQhack punishing the player for an item that was used by a monster! 07:22 FIQhack never fails to present ingenious new ways of screwing me over by way of monsters using items :P 07:22 wait! 07:23 wwwwwwwait did that ANGER THE FUCKING SHOPKEEPER??? 07:23 !tell FIQ it's even worse, that explosion ANGERED THE FUCKING SHOPKEEPER EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE DWARF ZAPPING THE WAND. 07:23 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 07:23 (sorry for shouting, I'm mad because I'll die now because of this bug) 07:24 !tell FIQ don't change it this is great sport to watch 07:24 Will do, zid`! 07:24 stennowork\ito awake yet? 07:25 yay I died 07:25 I need to go blank some scrolls, why are the two Ev wands I found tele and make invis :( 07:25 !tell FIQ well *thanks dude*, now the shopkeeper killed me through no fault of my own. Fix plz. 07:25 Will do, AmyBSOD\srn! 07:25 Junethack: Sakusen ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 07:26 <@Winsalot> oh yeah. I have programmed ncurses game of life! https://pastebin.com/jy07fQrn 07:26 <@Winsalot> next step- WinsalotHack 07:26 winsalot: All those functions should be static 07:27 @Winsalot: if you also make a nethack variant, please don't make it so that if a dwarf zaps an exploding wand of cold, it makes the shopkeeper angry at the player! :P 07:28 hmm I need blank scrolls 07:28 should I go for a swim somewhere? :P 07:28 could wish for cancellation and a spare marker.. not doing much else with these wishes.. tempting 07:29 <@Winsalot> zid`: can you giuve me a short summary of why? 07:29 winsalot: You've essentially made all those functions 'globals', if you were a .dll or .so those would be your exports 07:29 <[Demo][srn]> I just realized I made it through an entire dnh game without a crash 07:29 <[Demo][srn]> that's insane 07:29 *sigh* I'll give sporkhack another try even though I hate hate hate it with a fiery passion (more so than I hate FIQhack, in fact) 07:30 [Demo][srn]: hopefully your games don't end with YASD by way of stupid bugs! :D 07:30 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:30 you only need to export main so that libc can find it. Everything else should be static -- unless you're sharing it between files and have written a header for it 07:34 <[Demo][srn]> i forgot ho to play 07:34 [Demo][srn]: splicehack? it has funny new monsters :D but some of them were funnier before AntiGulp pulled out the nerf hammer 07:35 <[Demo][srn]> im just playing it like vanilla 07:35 well, be aware of the fact that it's a 3.6.1 variant 07:35 <[Demo][srn]> yeah i know 07:35 <[Demo][srn]> sokoban was hell 07:36 <[Demo][srn]> i try to play 3.6.1 like i do vanilla 07:37 3.6.1 *is* vanilla these days :-) 07:37 Not being able to see ; seems.. decidedly risky 07:37 I'm super tempted to wish for see invis, it's really annoying lol 07:37 <[Demo][srn]> no its not 07:37 <[Demo][srn]> its a dumb variant 07:37 <[Demo][srn]> they flipped they do you wanna stop eating prompt 07:37 [Demo][srn]: haha :D still better than sporkhack though 07:37 <[Demo][srn]> and made it so i cant pick up gold from a pile with a 07:37 sporkhack is hell, did you ever try it? 07:38 <[Demo][srn]> last year 07:38 <[Demo][srn]> but anyway anything that absues muscle memory is harmful 07:38 k that fixes that problem :P 07:38 you're saying that 3.6.1 isn't 3.4.3, and I agree with that, but I'm too tired right now to argue 07:39 <[Demo][srn]> dont worry dont bother 07:40 <[Demo][srn]> why is paranoidhit so annoying? 07:41 turn it off! the annoyance is exactly why I don't use it :D 07:41 <[Demo][srn]> yeah the problem is no paranoidhit + vikeys can = trouble 07:41 ah, the advantages of playing with number pad ;) 07:42 <[Demo][srn]> i wish more variants did what dnh does cause what fh does is op 07:42 <[Demo][srn]> displacing peacefuls is too strong 07:42 too bad I can't play nh13 at all because it apparently doesn't have a numpad option 07:42 <[Demo][srn]> chatting with them is safe 07:42 nh13 was designed for people whose keyboard doesn't have a numpad, obviously :( 07:42 I sure hope you don't have to get a trophy in nh13 for globetrotter, but you probably have to... 07:42 <[Demo][srn]> K2: if anyone wants numpad capability playing 1.3d and uses putty - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/PuTTY 07:42 <[Demo][srn]> K2: see nethack mode 07:43 you don't need 1.3d for sightseeing and similar 07:43 The door opens. "Must be hard kickin' all those doors down, I bet a key would help..." 07:43 dude I just opened the door normally 07:44 also I already have a key... those shopkeepers :P 07:44 would be nice if he sold a bag 07:44 death to gnomish wizards! 07:44 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour" unlocked by engelson! 07:49 There we go, AC:-21, that's more like it 07:49 I can easily ascend with that as soon as I get a god damn weapon 07:51 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 07:54 well I maxed my luck at least.. tempted to just enchant a damn dagger up and use that 07:57 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 07:58 oh an stenno 08:02 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07 [hdf-us] [un] ttc1401 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6868 points, T:3674, killed by an ettin mummy 08:08 <[Demo][srn]> !tell AntiGulp fix gugnir. When i throw it from my quiver it returns to my uwep 08:08 Will do, [Demo][srn]! 08:09 oh it was his client bouncing, how rude 08:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Val Ang Fem Law), 41282 points, T:11522, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted winged gargoyle 08:23 Junethack: New user Gearwhore registered! https://junethack.net/user/Gearwhore 08:23 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Changing host] 08:23 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 08:32 Junethack: New user intadtraptor registered! https://junethack.net/user/intadtraptor 08:54 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1904 09:08 I'm playing everybody's favourite game, "where the hell did I leave that mummy wrapping, I want to buy candles" 09:10 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:2918 09:10 <[Demo][srn]> that counts for consulatation, right? 09:12 it should; if it was the minor consultation then it does 09:12 <[Demo][srn]> ok 09:13 <@PsyMar> dammit. Minion #3 falls into a pit! Minion #3 is killed! 09:13 <@PsyMar> that was a large cat, too 09:13 oh an psymar 09:14 <@PsyMar> I got a decent wizard going 09:14 <@PsyMar> cleared soko, no reflection yet though 09:14 <@PsyMar> AC -4 when not taking off helmet/shoes to cast 09:14 <@PsyMar> SDSM would /really/ help with the casting too, I've got elven mithril on 09:14 Mine has charm monster, so basically every level on the dungeon has a vampire lord 09:14 or some kind of troll 09:15 <@PsyMar> at least I have poison res now so I can fend off this killer bee swarm... 09:15 depending on what annoying thing accosted me :P 09:15 <@PsyMar> don't have that but I have ID 09:15 oh I should write id, I need a blank book.. 09:16 <@PsyMar> oh, and I do have a mummy wrapping 09:17 how many charges does charging need 09:17 oh not a lot 09:19 There, I have id 09:19 <@PsyMar> let's see... 09:21 free action identified at least 09:22 I had everything properly useful id'd 09:22 geno, charging, levi ring, etc 09:22 should make gehe less boring at least, being able to Id and dump items 09:27 <@PsyMar> just dumped a bunch of inventory to buy a FOD spellbook 09:27 You feel less confused now. It explodes! The lizard looks confused. 09:27 <@PsyMar> I don't yet have the eye so I'm not ready to take on the minetown watch 09:27 <@PsyMar> also only 75% read chance until I can bless it 09:27 ehh you can take the watch super early 09:27 in regular nethack anyway 09:27 <@PsyMar> yeah, if you have a pet 09:28 or don't 09:28 <@PsyMar> and decent AC 09:28 load them up with force bolts then retreat for pw 09:28 <@PsyMar> hm. 09:28 <@PsyMar> I'd have to take off my mithril-coat though 09:28 <@PsyMar> to get anywhere near 0% on force bolt 09:28 with mithril you probablys tand a chance to just melee them 09:28 if a cat can kill them, and you can kill a cat.. 09:28 <@PsyMar> -4 AC, like I said 09:28 <@PsyMar> everything rusted 09:29 <[Demo][srn]> !tell jonadab blood puddings kick in wayyyyyyyy too early 09:29 Will do, [Demo][srn]! 09:29 <@PsyMar> it takes a beefy large cat, and the cat doesn't get them ganging up on it 09:29 <@PsyMar> it's not that I couldn't take ONE watchman 09:30 <@PsyMar> it's that I can't take them all... and since I got to minetown at a decently medium XL, the cat wouldn't even fight the watch captain 09:30 <@PsyMar> and that's an iffy proposition fi you get there at XL 1 09:30 <@PsyMar> (which makes the watch weaker) 09:31 <@PsyMar> also my HP is crap and I'm near burdened. I so need to bless some stuff. good thing anhur had an altar on DL1 09:31 oh nice 09:31 <@PsyMar> haven't got magicbane yet though, despite a full wand of create monster 09:31 I found 2 magic lamps thankfully 09:31 <@PsyMar> none for me, just a brass lantern and some candles at izchak's 09:31 eventually found an altar on like d10 I could convert, got some water, turned them into sdsm and the eyes 09:31 <@PsyMar> I've used up all fountains (except one) through the oracle on DL6 09:32 I had 8 oil lamps in minetown spread through the shops, both magic came from d1-5 ;P 09:32 <@PsyMar> I do need to explore post-oracle some more 09:32 <@PsyMar> did soko at least 09:32 discovering minetown at a lowish xlvl is enough 09:32 <@PsyMar> also need to find where I put most of my spellbooks because I'm at turn 13k already 09:32 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:32 use the store to priceid some stuff, do a BUC test, then carry on 09:32 <@PsyMar> yeah, i was like XL6 or 7, because my cat died early 09:32 it's only an issue if you bypass it and have to come back later when everything will do you poo in 09:33 <@PsyMar> almost died to a mumak 09:33 dark mines full of mumaks is baad 09:33 yea 09:33 <@PsyMar> just now 09:33 <@PsyMar> mines lit though 09:33 <@PsyMar> above minetown 09:33 <@PsyMar> had to run away from minetwon the first time, because bees and no PR 09:33 handy, mine have all been dark except for this game where I had the magic lamp so it didn't matter 09:33 <@PsyMar> I /am/ an elf, so at least I have infravis 09:33 getting back into nethack has been hard, I threw away 2 castle games already :D 09:34 <@PsyMar> wow 09:34 <@PsyMar> I've only started this one 09:34 <@PsyMar> I play slow and am kinda busy 09:34 first game I got to castle and made a series of serious mistakes within the span of 2 mins 09:34 2nd game was a dfv that checked 2 castle corners then died to a troll with a polearm being guarded by a dust vortex 09:34 <@PsyMar> It's hard to focus on nethack when my mom died two weeks ago and I'm trying to find documents to probate her will 09:34 ah that blows 09:34 <@PsyMar> at least I /have/ the will and death certificates 09:35 <@PsyMar> yeah. fuck cancer 09:35 not enough just to have it happen, gotta deal with it directly afterwards too 09:35 <@PsyMar> which she apparently had since 2005, I had no idea it was tha tlong 09:35 <@PsyMar> yeah I kinda took a week off after she died to do all the panicking I didn't do while trying to deal with her final days 09:36 <@PsyMar> I had to take care of her at home for like 3-and-a-half months and I was NOT ready for that 09:36 <@PsyMar> I have a hard enough time feeding the cats some days 09:36 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:14809 09:36 <@PsyMar> oh, and that 3-and-a-half months is after a month in which she went to the hospital 6 separate times 09:36 [hdf-us] [4k] Sir Gerald (Tmasher) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 8340 points, T:2731, killed by a killer bee 09:36 <@PsyMar> before they finally sent her home with an oxygen concentrator 09:37 <@PsyMar> which was loud, but a godsend. seems the cancer had spread to her lungs 09:37 <@PsyMar> and she was kinda loopy on low oxygen 09:37 <@PsyMar> to give you some idea how legendarily awesome my mom is, /they ran out of types of chemo to try/ before she ran out of strength 09:38 <@PsyMar> which /never/ happens. She walked into the oncologist's office for the appointment where he basically told her, me, and my uncle that she had 3 months to a year. 09:38 hah 09:38 <@PsyMar> honestly, I'm amazed she didn't beat those expectations 09:39 <@PsyMar> because she beat everything else... she once spent 3 weeks in ICU after a chemo side-effect caused her to have a seizure (and more) 09:39 <@PsyMar> a full week of that in neuro-ICU which is the top level 09:40 <@PsyMar> she actually had me test her blood pressure -- I didn't realize 177 systolic is really, really bad -- she drove herself to the doctor's office, and then had a seizure right in front of the doctor 09:40 She sounds like someone's grandpa 09:40 <@PsyMar> Well, she didn't want me to worry. 09:40 "I fell into a combine harvester so I walked 20 miles to the doctor" 09:40 <@PsyMar> She told them not to tell me she was in hospital -- I only found out when my uncle called to ask if I wanted to talk 09:40 "It's okay though, they sewed my legs back on" 09:40 <@PsyMar> mind you, she'd just had a seizure 09:41 <@PsyMar> She also used to compete in, and teach, judo 09:41 <@PsyMar> her worst injury was probably when a beginner student (who was very strong) tried to throw her while standing on her toes 09:41 <@PsyMar> dislocated her shoulder, IIRC 09:41 <@PsyMar> she says he nearly /did/ throw her while standing on her toes, he was THAT strong 09:42 <@PsyMar> she was also a four-time state champion, I should add 09:42 one of my cousins did judo actually 09:42 <@PsyMar> and there wasn't a women's division back then 09:42 They asked him to join the olympic squad but he didn't want to 09:42 Judo is very techniquey leveragey based right? 09:42 <@PsyMar> oh, and she learned it almost entirely in Japanese, in Japan, at the kodokan 09:42 <@PsyMar> yeah it's redirecting opponent's force 09:43 <@PsyMar> when she got back to the US she was amazed to learn there were english names for the moves 09:43 hah 09:43 <@PsyMar> I still have her 3rd-dan black belt 09:43 <@PsyMar> with her name in katakan 09:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Ana Dwa Mal Cha), 17488 points, T:6034, quit 09:44 'dan' is one of the very few kanji I actually know 09:44 <@PsyMar> I've taken one of her bits of advice to apply in chess 09:44 <@PsyMar> "always fight the master. It's all glory, no shame." 09:44 <@PsyMar> (or in judo, the black belt, but you know what I mean) 09:44 It's true of anything 09:44 <@PsyMar> also, in judo, the black belt is the least likely to hurt you 09:44 <@PsyMar> because they know what the hell they're doing 09:45 and they have the freedom to punish you with the same response over and over until you finally get it without it turning into a slapfight mess 09:45 <@PsyMar> I've almost beaten an IM in chess on two occasions... but I keep screwing it up 09:45 <@PsyMar> (in simul) 09:46 I felt like I could have been good at chess if I cared, sort of regret not bothering 09:46 <@PsyMar> I've actually beaten an FM in simul once 9 years ago (pure luck) and have taken a few scalps in correspondence 09:46 <@PsyMar> I didn't really care until age... 20? 09:46 I'm 28 now heh 09:46 <@PsyMar> and even then I didn't /really/ care, it took me a while to learn that I was not good 09:46 If you're not GM by 10 these days you're not going to be any good it feels 09:47 <@PsyMar> well, you're not gonna be world champ, but I'd say if you applied yourself you could at least reach class A or expert 09:47 <@PsyMar> which is good enough to teach chess 09:47 I'll get GM in tgm3 first.. 09:47 <@PsyMar> hahahahaha 09:47 <@PsyMar> I have yet to try that game.... but I mean to 09:47 <@PsyMar> part of my problem is too many hobbies 09:48 lmk if you wanna, I am the world's leading authority on its codebase and thus hosting it outside of an arcade cabinet 09:48 <@PsyMar> nethack, toiher video games, pokemon, golf, bowling, chess, and I play a mean game o fscrabble 09:48 <@PsyMar> I have a copy of texmaster 09:48 <@PsyMar> which is a TGM clone 09:48 texy's okay, I documented all the mechanics that it doesn't know 09:48 <@PsyMar> for all three versions 09:48 <@PsyMar> lol 09:48 the garbage is wrong in shirase, the randomizer is different, etc 09:48 it doesn't have the grade system 09:48 <@PsyMar> it does for master mode 09:48 <@PsyMar> I think? 09:48 but it's perfectly playable and will translate well 09:49 <@PsyMar> or maybe only for individual games 09:49 It doesn't have the quali system 09:49 <@PsyMar> ah 09:49 and it's possible the actual grade system is slightly out, I haven't seen texy's code, only tgm3's 09:49 <@PsyMar> yeah, I'd probably want to get decent at texmaster before I actually invested in the real thing 09:49 <@PsyMar> and by decent I mean at least master level 09:50 I'm not master level in tgm3 because lazy, I play waaaaay more shirase 09:50 <@PsyMar> anyway I've been sitting here way too long and need to use the bathroom 09:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417023075348119556/452831355236122624/unknown.png I've had this IDA window open for over a year now documenting all this crap >_< 09:50 <@PsyMar> lol 09:56 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:56 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6166 10:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Bin Hum Mal Non), 405 points, T:956, killed by a newt, while charging up a purifying blast 10:00 <@PsyMar> unrelatedly, tiger is tied-6th and climbing potentially 10:02 <@PsyMar> make that 7th, someone birdied 10:04 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 10:06 <[Demo][srn]> what the hell am i supposed to do about blood puddings 10:20 <[Demo][srn]> rip 10:21 <[Demo][srn]> whats a nellie bly? 10:25 My wizard has good gear but feels soo weak :( 10:30 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 10:32 <[Demo][srn]> oh wait i thought he was killed oops 10:32 <[Demo][srn]> bly looks like by 10:33 You feel a strange vibration under your feet. 10:34 I need some more levels and magic missile for sure I think.. 10:35 -!- Muad\ito has joined #hardfought 10:39 !rng 4 6 x s 10:39 raisse\splat: s 10:39 !role 10:39 raisse\splat: nhfourk caveman 10:40 !rng 4 6 x 10:40 raisse\splat: x 10:40 !role 10:40 raisse\splat: grunthack samurai 10:41 !stats 10:41 !stat 10:41 !role 10:41 NewbProgrammer10: nhfourk barbarian 10:46 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:49 stenno\ito 10:53 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:8072 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 3595 points, T:2509, killed by a giant beetle 11:07 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 11:08 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Changing host] 11:08 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 11:10 Of course, I had it :-I 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Tmasher (Val Fem), 164 points, T:68, hobgoblin 11:11 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by tmasher! 11:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:26 <[Demo][srn]> fourk outta livelog artigifts 11:26 <[Demo][srn]> cause i just used the most retarded method to get one 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:22458 11:33 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Medusa, on T:15278 11:38 -!- Mandevil\split is now known as Mandevil\splat 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Tmasher (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1642 points, T:1671, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:40 Junethack: Achievement "Walk In The Park" unlocked by Tangles! 11:45 hm a saddled warhorse 11:45 oh there's stenno 11:45 hi 11:45 Hello stenno\ito, Welcome to #hardfought 11:45 I got to rodney with no magic missile, or fod, and I only had a magicbane, under 100 hp, and ran out of advance slots... 11:46 ..so I found a sink >_< 11:46 lol 11:46 to victory! 11:47 oh, almost immediately got a marker, heh 11:54 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:56 Okay finally got cancellation, I could probably ascend now.. but do I want to.. I like farming lol 11:57 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:58 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 11:59 stenno\ito: talk me out of it, or not 11:59 if you enjoy it :P 12:08 bastard H stole all my boulders because my farm is makeshift, heh 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:23826 12:12 [hdf-us] [4k] Sarah (Tmasher) (Hea Syl Fem Neu), 4038 points, T:1408, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:13 <[Demo][srn]> what speed would you need to always get two turns? 12:13 You start to float in the air! I - an uncursed ring of levitation (on right hand). 12:13 * hothraxxa pumps fist 12:13 <[Demo][srn]> 24, right? 12:16 <@Tone\ootc> Yes Demo 12:18 <[Demo][srn]> i think speed might be broken in fourk 12:18 <[Demo][srn]> spider attack wise 12:19 <[Demo][srn]> anyone ever play any games with speed bugs before where you can stack infinite speed? 12:22 mario 64? :P 12:22 <[Demo][srn]> in my experience its always fun as hell 12:23 <[Demo][srn]> but maybe cause it was a game where you could clip walls when you got fast enough 12:23 in mario64 you can clip universes if you go fast enough :P 12:24 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 12:25 [hdf-us] [dyn] Josephine (Tmasher) (Val Hum Fem Law), 3178 points, T:1961, killed by a wolf 12:26 <[Demo][srn]> this was a shooter though so it was badass:P 12:27 <[Demo][srn]> basically a certain gun had a certain perk if u used it enough that it would weigh a tiny bit less 12:27 <[Demo][srn]> and when you swapped between it and another gun it didnt clean up properly 12:27 <[Demo][srn]> so if you spammed swap your speed would stack 12:28 !who 12:28 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] groovejumper [dyn] Tmasher [dyn] dolores [slex] HDFBot [nh343] monstergrin [dnh] Qwesti [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] hothraxxa [nh361] Demo [4k] 12:28 bug_sniper: [hdf-eu] Tariru [slex] zid [nh343] jt [nh361] Muad [nh361] Raisse [xnh] elenmirie [xnh] 12:28 bug_sniper: [hdf-au] No current players 12:37 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-us] [dyn] Magician (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 22427 points, T:15486, killed by a crocodile 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23626 12:52 <[Demo][srn]> where can I find the full list of how to get a cursed weapon out of my hand? 12:53 remove curse, nymph, fountain, prayer 12:54 lich 12:54 <[Demo][srn]> I mean the fullest most obscure list like that should be a thing 12:54 I think that might be it 12:54 overenchant it 12:54 <[Demo][srn]> there are ways I don't know 12:54 ooh yea 12:55 <[Demo][srn]> cause fourk 12:55 also just blessed ew 12:55 anyway, enchant it 12:55 because it can bless the weapon 12:55 uncursed EW will uncurse it 12:55 <[Demo][srn]> can I destroy it with a blue R? 12:55 <[Demo][srn]> I'm playing fourk 12:55 no, that will just drain it to +0 12:55 oh in that case I don't know 12:55 <[Demo][srn]> that's not fixed til 3.6.0 12:55 can you eat a greasy tin and have it fall out of your hand? 12:55 it's welded 12:55 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 12:55 what about give a monster a bullwhip and let it disarm you 12:55 <[Demo][srn]> it won't work 12:56 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Nec Ang Fem Cha), 32007 points, T:6217, killed by a monster (ego-troll mummy) 12:56 <[Demo][srn]> cursed holds it on with bullwhip 12:56 magic trap can uncurse it 12:56 there are so many ways 12:57 <[Demo][srn]> I just don't want to miss the opportunity to use an obscure way I never use 12:58 if it's the type of weapon that can break when forcing a lock, you can force 12:58 <[Demo][srn]> unfortunately it's a pick axe 12:59 <[Demo][srn]> not a sword or a bladey magoo 12:59 no one said dipping into holy water yet 13:00 <[Demo][srn]> just advice to anyone if you play fourk do not ever let puddings split 13:00 There's always polymorphing into something without arms. 13:00 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:00 <[Demo][srn]> I think I might do that 13:00 Tariru, good one 13:00 <[Demo][srn]> I have a ring of poly control and nearby traps 13:00 nooodle: cursed weapons don't break on force 13:00 If it was wooden you could try dipping into a lit potion of oil while its already thoroughly burned as well. 13:00 <[Demo][srn]> damn 13:01 raisse, that's dumb 13:01 but i believe you 13:01 <[Demo][srn]> does that work with lava too? 13:01 I don't think it completely destroys it in vanilla, just degrades it up to throughly. Not sure though. 13:01 what about digging down in a shop while wielding the cursed weapon and having an unpaid tab 13:01 You might be able to do it hitting red molds or other things with passive fire attacks in 3.6. 13:02 <[Demo][srn]> tariru have you played fourk, if so have you had to deal with blood puddings? 13:02 Not played fourk before, what do blood puddings do? 13:02 <[Demo][srn]> they do like 3d8 drain life and passive drain life 13:03 buh bye HDFBot 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> and they spawn from the second or so split of a regular pudding 13:03 [hdf-us] [un] LoadedDice (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 146 points, T:402, killed by an electric shock 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> and they are very quick about like lvl 24 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> and also split when hit with iron 13:03 Use ranged attacks or wands? 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> immune to all resists 13:03 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> ranged attacks would work 13:03 <[Demo][srn]> they respect scare monster 13:04 what about being hit with a wide-angle disintegration beam, does that destroy your weapon? 13:04 <@Winsalot> How hard would be weaponless monk in FIQhack? 13:04 Even striking/magicmissile? 13:04 <[Demo][srn]> I don't think they resist that 13:04 Disint beam is just armor, I think. 13:04 <[Demo][srn]> but they have the health of a lvl 20 some monster so you'd need a lot of wands to do that 13:05 <[Demo][srn]> the problem is needing to fight them at like xp lvl 10 13:05 Tariru, even wide-angle? That's bizarre 13:05 <[Demo][srn]> cause yeah they seem handle able if you are prepared and ascension ready 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 mjollnir", on T:24688 13:15 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:17 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 13:17 <@Winsalot> Anyone got the link to descroiption of FIQhack's prayer/sacrifice rework? 13:29 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 134 points, T:643, killed by a gnomish guard 13:30 <[Demo][srn]> goddamit grunt 13:30 jonadab: Message from [Demo][srn] at 2018-06-03 09:29 EDT: blood puddings kick in wayyyyyyyy too early 13:30 <[Demo][srn]> who the hell thought it was ok to let gnomes guard shit? 13:32 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has joined #hardfought 13:33 [Demo][srn]: Fourk speed _may_ still need further rebalancing, but the fact that intrinsic and extrinsic speed stack is intentional. 13:34 <[Demo][srn]> so whats the maximum possible speed without polymorph? 13:34 <[Demo][srn]> also can we talk about blood puddings? 13:34 <[Demo][srn]> like what 13:35 Max possible speed without polymorph, hmm, let me check if scurriers can wear speed boots... 13:35 <[Demo][srn]> ok sorry 13:35 <[Demo][srn]> for a human 13:35 Scurriers can wear speed boots. 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed greased fixed historic master key of THIEVERY", on T:26096 13:35 So max would be a scurrier, with intrinsic speed, wearing speed boots, and temporarily hasted by quaffing a potion of speed. 13:35 And not slowed. 13:36 And not burdened. 13:36 <[Demo][srn]> why does my speed randomly change? 13:36 <[Demo][srn]> it was 24 for the longest time now it is suddenly 23 13:36 Did something time out? 13:36 <[Demo][srn]> no 13:36 That seems like a small change. 13:36 * Pinkbeast rubs self with unicorn horn; hangover not cured :-( 13:36 <[Demo][srn]> 24 seems too high for a human valk wearing speedboots with innate speed 13:37 why does the master key of thievery evade my grasp? that's strange 13:37 Ok, so, humans have base speed 12. 13:37 nooodle: 3.6? 13:37 yes, 3.6.1 13:37 Hmm, the 3.6.0 bug is fixed in 3.6.1. 13:37 So next question is, are you positively aligned? 13:38 And are you chaotic? 13:38 I don't know what that means, but I'm chaotic 13:38 If you're chaotic, you can use it as long as your alignment is ok. 13:38 Aha! Ok, that's what it is 13:38 I'm insufficiently chaotic 13:38 thank you for clearing that up 13:38 The nethackwiki doesn't mention that requirement actually. 13:38 yeah, see alignment record on the wiki. 13:39 <[Demo][srn]> ok what the hell 13:39 <[Demo][srn]> its back up to 24 13:39 <[Demo][srn]> after a screenredraw 13:39 <[Demo][srn]> there are really weird screen redraws that happen ??? randomly?? 13:39 Under normal circumstances it is both quite hard to be negatively aligned and really bad, so it doesn't normally come up 13:40 There are three ways an artifact checks your alignment: whether you're law/neu/cha, whether you're the right role, and whether your alignement record is ok. You have to match two of them to use it at all, three to avoid any chance of being blasted. 13:40 no idea why i'm negatively aligned, never did anything I'm aware of that decreases my alignment 13:40 (Some artifacts don't care about all three, though; they're easier to use.) 13:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:40 [Demo][srn]: Screen redraw happens automatically from time to time as a workaround for dgamelaunch/ttyrec issues. 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> ok 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> so its not some monster causing it that i cant see 13:41 <[Demo][srn]> anyway i still think my speed is higher than it should be 13:41 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Set, on T:26180 13:44 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:46 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:46 24 is high, admittedly. 13:46 Let me look up the formula. 13:46 <[Demo][srn]> ok now im randomly 22 13:46 <[Demo][srn]> wtf 13:46 <[Demo][srn]> it was 24 again and now it dropped 2 13:47 <[Demo][srn]> ok back up to 23 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the uncursed greased greased magic marker", on T:26428 13:49 Oh, [Demo][srn]: Are you riding a steed? 13:49 Junethack: New user damerell registered! https://junethack.net/user/damerell 13:49 <[Demo][srn]> no 13:49 Oh, hmm. 13:49 oops 13:50 <[Demo][srn]> oh i see 13:50 man deep orcs are strong 13:50 @?deep orc 13:50 deep orc (o) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 13:50 yep 13:50 Pinkbeast: this humble girl would like to invite the great damerell into her clan! ♥ do you want to be part of the nymphets? 13:50 amt = Upolyd ? youmonst.data->mmove : urace.basespeed; if (u.uintrinsic[FAST] & INTRINSIC)) amt += NORMAL_SPEED * 2 / 3; 13:51 I just joined but, fair warning, I'm probably the terrible damerell at the moment 13:51 if (u.uintrinsic[FAST] & ~INTRINSIC) amt = amt * 5 / 4; 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> bloatedness is messing with my speed 13:51 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 13:51 <[Demo][srn]> thats why it seems so random 13:51 Ah. 13:51 THAT makes sense. 13:51 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 13:51 ... eg I suspect two years playing a game that doesn't let you walk into lava just for jollies is not going to help me not walk into lava 13:51 Yes, being bloated reduces your effective speed a bit. 13:51 And exactly how much depends how bloated you are. 13:52 Pinkbeast: At least four variants in the tournament require you to use the moveonly prefix to step on lava. 13:52 Hooray! But right now I'm playing 3.4.3 to get my hand back in 13:52 Although Fourk makes an exception and allows it if you are wearing identified fireproof water walking boots. 13:53 <[Demo][srn]> ok so you adjusted speeds 13:53 Pinkbeast: :) 13:53 <[Demo][srn]> 12+(12*2/3) + (12/3) = 24 = intrinsice speed and extrinsic speed 13:53 If you think speed is working differently in Fourk than in vanilla, you are probably correct. 13:53 <[Demo][srn]> i was really hoping spider bite was stacking 13:53 Right, having both intrinsic and extrinsic stacks. 13:54 <[Demo][srn]> or rather spider bite timeout 13:54 Spider web slowing will stack. 13:54 But that slows you. 13:54 <[Demo][srn]> the bite attack version isnt different from walking in? 13:54 The bite attack doesn't cause slowing, just poison. 13:54 It's the web attack that causes slowing. 13:55 <[Demo][srn]> that thing yeah 13:55 <[Demo][srn]> i was hoping it wasnt timing out right 13:55 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55 <[Demo][srn]> and i could just get a lot of timeouts and get realllllllllllly fast 13:55 You can use temporary speed sources (potion, wand) to augment your speed temporarily. 13:55 That will stack. But it times out. 13:56 Dropping potions on stairs! Another bad habit 13:56 <[Demo][srn]> yes it does time out properly 13:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 13:56 <[Demo][srn]> so apparently my alignment is too low for quest 13:56 <[Demo][srn]> ive mostly been a good boy 13:56 Pinkbeast: ugh, reminds me of the one time I polymorphed while on the downstair, while wearing a crystal plate mail, and my new form was too small to wear it. 13:56 <[Demo][srn]> how did this happen? 13:56 [Demo][srn]: Fourk does not award huge numbers of alignment points for killing everything that moves. 13:56 That's how. 13:56 [Demo][srn]: fourk does some fierce changes to alignment record, good luck getting it high enough to be admitted into the quest 13:57 [Demo][srn]: What role? 13:57 <[Demo][srn]> how do i check my alignment without a stethoscope 13:57 <[Demo][srn]> valk 13:57 <[Demo][srn]> i have no gop 13:57 Ah, Valk. 13:57 Hmm, as a neutral valk, best ways to increase alignment tend to involve prayer and/or an altar. 13:58 <[Demo][srn]> ok 13:58 <[Demo][srn]> prayer? 13:58 <[Demo][srn]> do certain prayer results boost alignment? 13:58 As a neutral, you'll get an alignment point from successful prayer each time. 13:58 In vanilla, that only happens if your alignment is negative. In Fourk, neutrals always get it. 13:58 <[Demo][srn]> doesnt well pleased mean pious? 13:59 [hdf-us] [dyn] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 87690 points, T:34513, killed by a rock troll 13:59 No, but it means prayer was successful. 13:59 jonadab: that somehow sounds like neutral atheists have a damn hard time in fourk... 13:59 <[Demo][srn]> then what does pleased mean? 13:59 AmyBSOD\srn: They might indeed. 13:59 [Demo][srn]: Oh, hmm. Maybe? Let me look it up. 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided gremlin, on T:60157 13:59 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:00 <[Demo][srn]> oh it means >= devout 14:00 Ah. 14:00 <[Demo][srn]> not pious :( 14:00 Well, devout is only one category down from pious. 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25625 14:00 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 1435 points, T:2052, killed by a dwarvish lord 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25627 14:01 <[Demo][srn]> "your conscience bothers you less" 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3482 points, T:4412, killed by a tengu 14:04 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 129 points, T:261, killed by an iguana 14:05 [Demo][srn]: That means you gained a point of alignment (and weren't pious). 14:05 At some point I want to make it use a different message if your new alignment is your highest ever, but for that the game would have to track your highest ever. 14:06 So that would break save compat, so it's for a future version. 14:06 * Pinkbeast resists the urge to o-Tab 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27471 14:10 <[Demo][srn]> ok 14:10 <[Demo][srn]> monster generation is decreased, right? 14:11 <[Demo][srn]> well fuck 14:11 [hdf-us] [4k] nerfwingedgargoyle (Demo) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 22170 points, T:21456, killed by a gryphon 14:11 <[Demo][srn]> didnt think it was M1_STALK or whatever 14:12 At least that's probably a unique death. (Most other variants don't have gryphons.) 14:12 * NCommander crawls in 14:12 <[Demo][srn]> anyway something needs to be done about blood puddings 14:12 I've nerfed blood puddings like three times. 14:12 <[Demo][srn]> i really like the idea but they execution is really bad 14:12 <[Demo][srn]> really? 14:12 <[Demo][srn]> what were they like before? 14:12 Yeah. 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27809 14:13 I really have no good idea how to proceed 14:13 They generated much too readily. Like, for instance, the first time you split a pudding in the entire game, sometimes. Which was very not intended. 14:13 I managed to end up in a "Dig for Victory" sorta state at the castle 14:13 <[Demo][srn]> ah so its based on total splits across the game? 14:13 [Demo][srn]: No. It's based on how many times THAT pudding has split. 14:13 But if it happens after fewer than about 20 times, it's not adjusted quite correctly yet. 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> uhhh 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> it happened to be after 2 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> on a brown pudding 14:14 Yeah, that's not intended. 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> and after like 3 on a black pudding 14:14 I think I still don't understand how monster levels work. 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> and i had no idea what they were 14:14 <[Demo][srn]> and idk how i didnt die 14:14 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 627 points, T:1061, killed by a rock piercer 14:14 [hdf-us] [sp] Tmasher (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 30213 points, T:7689, killed by a zruty 14:15 I mean, clearly I should not change it during the tournament. 14:15 I'm open to suggests on how to best continue 14:15 * NCommander has the wand of wishing 14:15 But I guess I'll need to look into it again. 14:15 <[Demo][srn]> its insane 14:15 NCommander: What's the obstacle to continuing into Gehennom? 14:16 jonadab, so, Dwarf-Valk FIQHack, AC of :-19, no, MR, reflection is coming from Medusa's shield. Pretty crud equipment all around aside from Excallibur. 14:16 Ah, so your question is what to wish for in FIQHack? 14:16 <[Demo][srn]> uhh fourk is broken 14:16 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:16 [Demo][srn]: Specifically? 14:16 <[Demo][srn]> i got the trophy for bottom of the mines and i never went there 14:16 jonadab, given it's FIQHack, reverse genociding in dragons is pretty close to suicide. I've got a silver saber but can't #twoweapon since I'm using the shield. 14:16 <[Demo][srn]> and i didnt get the soko zoo trophy but i went there 14:16 [Demo][srn]: wat? AGAIN? 14:16 <[Demo][srn]> i hope they are just backwards 14:17 <[Demo][srn]> i would have much preferred no rodney if i was getting the wrong one 14:17 NCommander: You know about the extra resistances DSM colors give in fh, right? And the fact that extrinsic resistance is more complete than intrinsic? 14:17 jonadab, yup, I'm aware. I'm rocking blue DSM ATM 14:17 Ok. 14:18 <[Demo][srn]> also thanks for the easy sokoban levels jonadab, they are a lot less cruel than un's 14:18 <[Demo][srn]> like they are almost enjoyable 14:18 I might switch it to orange as I have the scales but lack of DPS nearly ended previous FIQHack runs. 14:18 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 14:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 14:18 Ah. 14:18 Man, you are doing awesome in Junethack, AmyBSOD\srn 14:19 stenno\ito: I kept playing, but to no avail. I have no trophies :( 14:19 * NCommander will likely get the first FIQHack trophies for Junethack 14:19 [hdf-us] [slex] Demo (Mon Ang Mal Cha), 91550 points, T:6742, quit 14:19 NewbProgrammer10: well, not really, I got one ascension and apart from that it's been going pretty badly 14:19 <[Demo][srn]> ok time t o play slex 14:20 jonadab, so I'm kinda in this ugly situation where polypiling isn't going to help much, and I'm burning quite a few wishes for an ascensionkit 14:20 NewbProgrammer10: no worries 14:20 [Demo][srn]: yey :) 14:20 <[Demo][srn]> whats a good race that is easy and fun? 14:20 Rod 14:20 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 14:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v irina|log] by ChanServ 14:20 <[Demo][srn]> whats spirit's weakness again? 14:21 <[Demo][srn]> is it a food issue? 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2250 14:21 heh, you could combine the unicorn and evilvariant races and try to kill an elder priest :P 14:21 -!- irina|log has quit [Client Quit] 14:21 spirit can't eat corpses IIRC 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:2250 14:21 and is a bit slower 14:21 <[Demo][srn]> that sounds right 14:21 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Konosja on T:22042 14:21 <[Demo][srn]> i guess ill go angel 14:22 <[Demo][srn]> where can i find documentation on the slex lightsaber forms? 14:22 * NCommander mulls 14:22 unfortunately nowhere yet, but when I push slex 2.23 tomorrow there'll be info in dat/rumors.tru 14:22 -!- irina_ has joined #hardfought 14:23 <[Demo][srn]> so armour weight doesnt affect them? 14:23 -!- irina_ is now known as irina|log 14:23 Black DSM might be the way to go here 14:23 -!- irina|log is now known as Guest34347 14:23 then wish for MR 14:24 NCommander: hmmm, u playing vanilla? 14:24 I forget which resistance black gives you, apart from disint. 14:24 jonadab, draining 14:24 Oh, right. 14:24 <[Demo][srn]> you should add that in fourk 14:24 <[Demo][srn]> or at least an amulet of drain res 14:24 draining isn't usually a big deal 14:24 [Demo][srn]: 4.3.0.6 14:24 <[Demo][srn]> cause currently its pretty hard to deal with blood puddings 14:24 jonadab, my choices are orange, black or white. Sleep/Free action (have the ring), Speed/immune to slow, or protection from water damage 14:24 so nothing amazingly useful 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1196 points, T:2621, killed by a dingo 14:25 I need to search the fort a second time, I offed two red dragons, annoying neither dropped scales 14:26 actually, the orange scales might be the way to go 14:26 TBH 14:26 I don't even have sleep resistance and I get a ring finger back 14:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Medusa, on T:23493 14:26 aren't elves pretty abundant? 14:27 -!- Guest34347 is now known as irina|log 14:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v irina|log] by ChanServ 14:27 winny, RNG hates me 14:28 AHHHHHHH 14:28 TEAM H 14:29 !who 14:29 winny: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] Demo [slex] NCommander [fh] Tmasher [gh] monstergrin [dnh] Cropper [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] richards [un] 14:29 winny: [hdf-eu] Tariru [slex] Mandevil [nh343] damerell [nh343] winsalot [fh] AmyBSOD [sp] Muad [nh361] Raisse [xnh] 14:29 winny: [hdf-au] No current players 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:60439 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:60447 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the greased greased blessed greased wand of polymorph", on T:28926 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:60616 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:28932 14:45 Blarg, viewing 80column help in the curses interface is seriously horrible, anything I can do about that? 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:29330 14:46 NCommander: oh you're playing FIQhack? good luck, I tried it earlier today and got my butt kicked by a bug :( 14:46 AmyBSOD\srn, I'm through to the Castle 14:46 wow 14:47 wow 14:47 AmyBSOD\srn, but I've got crap for equipment 14:47 mp 14:47 can you fix it with the wand of wishing? 14:47 Did FIQ remove the anmesia attack 14:47 AmyBSOD\srn, barely, and team h showed up 14:47 hmm, there are some variants that change amnesia mechanics, FIQhack might be one of them 14:47 I just idented genocide, but I'm dwarf so I need to burn two scrolls to d h 14:48 AmyBSOD\srn, it's more the brainlessness. 14:48 oh yeah, I guess unihorns don't work in FH 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:60901 14:48 roughly 50% of all variants make it so that unihorns don't restore stats at all, and 50% of the remaining ones add a downside to restoring stats with the horn 14:48 [hdf-us] [gh] Tmasher (Bar Ogr Mal Cha), 2520 points, T:3500, killed by a mumak 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:60911 14:48 AmyBSOD\srn, right, and I've yet to find a ring of sustain ability. 14:49 My levitation source is the boots, and reflection is medusa's shield, no MR 14:49 RNG has NOT been kind. 14:49 currently I'm playing sporkhack, which is also one of the variants where the horn just doesn't restore them 14:49 <@Winsalot> Fyucking bullshit 14:49 <@Winsalot> How was this insta death? 14:50 <@Winsalot> I was stpposted to be given time to eat my lizard 14:50 well at least you do have reflection, I remember my splicehack run where I had neither reflection nor MR and had to try the castle or farm endlessly. I chose the former and the first lieutenant had a wand of death, of course. 14:51 AmyBSOD\srn, FIQHack makes Medusa's shield always be there 14:51 @Winsalot: ouch! even if you're an old traitor, I feel with you; that kind of death has happened to me too many times and is the reason why I changed the petrification mechanics in slex, in fact. 14:51 I had to GET to medusa without reflection. 14:51 AmyBSOD\srn, I actually had a bug with that type of perfection that FIQ had to fix. I got rubber chickened 14:51 #!@#$ 14:52 Fuck it 14:52 * NCommander needs to polypile scrolls 14:52 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: I guess it's time to play some more slex. WHat are your comments on occultist class? 14:52 I'm not burning a wish to learn enchant weapon 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:52326 14:52 NCommander: oh, as in bashed by a soldier or something that was wielding one? what was the bug? 14:52 AmyBSOD\srn, solider 14:52 I'm debating if I want to polypile this unidented helm 14:53 It's probably opposite alignment but ... 14:53 Ugh 14:53 @Winsalot: already? did you run out of trophies to grab from the other variants? :D the occult master is hard to play, you can startscum for useful spells but I'm not sure if any of them are good for routine killing 14:55 ... I polypiled a bunch of scrolls and ended up with six ID scrolls 14:55 WTF O_o 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:29673 14:56 <@Winsalot> And why does FIQhack have so few trophies? 14:56 ^^ 14:58 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 162 points, T:145, killed by a dwarf 14:58 <@Winsalot> Also the only variants I plan to play are slex, fh and maybe dnethack 14:58 oh really? 14:58 :) 14:58 Oh win 14:58 I successfully polypiled up two scrolls of charging 15:00 ok, now the next question 15:00 do I polypile the HoOO 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "the greased uncursed magic marker", on T:29948 15:01 orctown.. 15:01 yay, orctown! *heart* 15:02 .... ok, polypiling scrolls is actually a decent idea 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an arch-lich, on T:29957 15:06 * NCommander successfully polypiled two wishes 15:06 <[Demo][srn]> im suspicious 15:06 Enchant weapon, and charging \o/ 15:07 and two scrolls of genocide 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 2316 points, T:2275, killed by a soldier ant 15:08 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:33479 15:08 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:33480 15:08 and the world is a better place 15:08 so I've got seven wishes to work with 15:10 <[Demo][srn]> who is jt? 15:10 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 562 points, T:1011, killed by a dwarvish lord 15:10 its jt 15:12 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 50 points, T:645, killed by a falling rock 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] Peter (Tmasher) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 25528 points, T:2266, killed by a rothe 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:61810 15:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Sam Inc Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:945 15:14 don't you know jt 15:14 bhaak: Message from K2 at 2018-06-01 00:02 EDT: I think the sightseeing tour trophy is broken. i've got over 1000 turns on everything including 1.3d. no annoucement or trophy showing on the site 15:15 ^ fake news 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61950 15:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:18 Junethack: jt ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on eu.hardfought.org! 15:18 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+2 greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:33767 15:18 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 166 points, T:558, killed by a large mimic 15:18 free wish :) 15:19 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:20 oh no 15:20 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+2 blessed cloak of magic resistance", on T:33960 15:20 aphrodite level 15:21 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:22 just kill aphrodite and get a trophy. apparently she's the weakest unique in unnethack 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Sam Inc Fem Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:1948 15:23 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 15:24 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33989 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:31867 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31886 15:26 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+2 greased blessed speed boots", on T:34052 15:28 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62867 15:30 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:30 damn it 15:31 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+2 blessed greased leather gloves of power", on T:34067 15:31 yeah shit, that didn't work 15:31 :/ 15:31 aww 15:31 ah well 15:31 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:31 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie\splat 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class m, on T:32248 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "a blessed greased +2 ring of increase damage", on T:32414 15:38 FIQ, writing enchant weapon gets me enchant armor scrolls :( 15:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Sam Inc Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:3919 15:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Demo (Jed Ang Mal Cha) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:5573 15:47 Ok, I think I have a viable ascension kit 15:47 Let's do this 15:47 !lotg NCommander 15:47 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, NCommander! 15:48 * NCommander is hoping he can succeed at this 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:63007 15:49 <@Winsalot> !who 15:49 @Winsalot: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] Demo [slex] dizzylizzy [spl] Jendic [fh] NCommander [fh] Tarmunora [dnh] monstergrin [dnh] knavery [nh361] hothraxxa [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 15:49 @Winsalot: [hdf-eu] zid [nh343] Mandevil [nh343] jt [gh] kernelrain [nh361] Raisse [nh361] Muad [nh361] elenmirie [xnh] 15:49 @Winsalot: [hdf-au] No current players 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63010 15:50 holy shit 15:50 I forgot what an OP #twoweapon was like 15:50 * NCommander is cutting through VoTD 15:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Sam Inc Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:4335 15:52 winsalot: I hit the one in the castle 15:53 [hdf-us] [fh] Lelith (Jendic) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:5211 15:54 um, fiq made changes to this, didn't he ... 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:33422 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:33442 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33533 15:57 y'all know about ^u right? 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33547 15:58 press control-u at a text-typing prompt, and it deletes what you've typed and puts you back at the start of the line\ 15:59 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Wonotobo on T:23970 16:03 finally gained sleep resistance 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33972 16:06 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Kinnegad on T:24303 16:07 [hdf-us] [spl] dizzylizzy (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1026 points, T:2234, killed by a dog called Taako 16:09 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 16:13 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 16:13 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: How exactly does Ak Thief is dead! race work? 16:14 <@Winsalot> Cos I have a suspicion that it is bugged in curses 😃 16:17 <@Winsalot> Notice how my original and current genders are different, but I have no clue what monster I currently am 16:17 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/452928734643879946/Ak_Thief_is_dead.png 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63410 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63422 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63446 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63462 16:22 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Siboga on T:25211 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63481 16:25 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63497 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63517 16:27 @Winsalot: should work as intended, it's because the ak Thief is dead! is actually a random stats monster set at game start; apparently it randomly got M2_NEUTER flag in your game 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 675 points, T:2326, killed by a hill orc 16:29 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:63568 16:29 !who 16:29 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Demo [slex] NCommander [fh] Tmasher [fh] Tarmunora [dnh] monstergrin [dnh] knavery [nh361] hothraxxa [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] bouquet [nh361] amelie [nh361] richards [un] dizzylizzy [xnh] 16:29 bug_sniper: [hdf-eu] engelson [dyn] Tariru [slex] Mandevil [nh343] zid [nh343] jt [gh] kernelrain [nh361] Raisse [nh361] Muad [nh361] elenmirie [xnh] 16:29 bug_sniper: [hdf-au] No current players 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:63569 16:29 finding flag sucks 16:32 Dear Tyr, please give me a gorram altar 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:63592 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:63613 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35567 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35569 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35572 16:36 !lotg nooodle 16:36 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, nooodle! 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:35577 16:37 AmyBSOD: <3 <3 this is for streak length of 6 on hardfought, and streak length of 2 in the tourney 16:37 i've violated all conducts to help the clan 16:37 I've fogotten the layout of the wizard tower I've not played in so long 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35583 16:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Sam Inc Fem Law), 89584 points, T:7585, killed by a yuki-onna 16:38 nooodle: wow! far out! conduct-breaking games are something that I'm bad at, I guess I should do the occasional "strip off to polymorph yourself" thing 16:38 do you also have to wish for at least one artifact to get a 12 broken conducts game? 16:39 i think maybe? i wished for one, anyway 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2378494 points, T:63619, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/knavery/nh361/dumplog/1527283570.nh361.txt 16:39 and I'll engrave elbereth just before i ascend 16:39 :) 16:39 <[Demo][srn]> wait didnt he just ascend? 16:39 <@Jendic> kos if you're here, congrats 16:39 <@Jendic> erm, knavery 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1265 16:39 <@Jendic> derp 16:39 since water walking shoes allow you to walk on water, walking shoes should allow you to walk if otherwise unable 16:40 <[Demo][srn]> wait no that was jt 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] bouquet (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1265 16:40 w00t 16:40 Vlad 16:40 <@Jendic> dude had famine and pestilence both taking swings at him at one point--I'm impressed he managed to bounce back from that 16:40 nooodle: haha I guess that should be a YANI? aosdict\ito is collecting those, so for the record I'll re-post it: YANI by nooodle: since water walking shoes allow you to walk on water, walking shoes should allow you to walk if otherwise unable 16:42 this is the first game i've ever used mjollnir, maybe ever, in my nethack playing life. it's pretty sweet just to bash the crap out of things and not care when stuff explodes 16:42 huh, but doesn't it get really disheartening when you read "the soldier's wand of death explodes" because now you don't get a wand of death? 16:44 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated Vlad the Impaler, on T:40220 16:44 2/3 down 16:44 aosdict\ito: do all silver-material shields grant reflection? 16:44 or only the "polished" ones 16:46 AmyBSOD it turned out that I ended up with 4 wands of death anyway, so it's all good. :D 16:46 i really do wish that nethack vanilla would merge the slashem feature (I think?) that breaking wands actually perform their effect 16:46 it just makes sense, and it's cool 16:47 yeah in slashem the wand of death will e.g. explode in a death field when broken, and the wand of digging will make pits I think 16:48 also, by the time you're on the astral plane, it's genuinely nice to blow up those losers' wands. They're so annoying at that point 16:50 <[Demo][srn]> digging makes a mix of pits and holes 16:50 <[Demo][srn]> and can be used to destroy altars 16:51 I feel like the AI of the high priest of moloch should be a little better than: s/he uses a wand of striking against you repeatedly even though it should be logically clear to it that you are going to resist every time 16:51 nooodle: it does sometimes, like applying telewands 16:51 oh snap, I just blew up his wand of striking with mjollnir. lol dammit mjollnir 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:35905 16:52 haha, I guess you could screw over the AI then, by throwing a wand of striking/MM/whatever with many charges at an otherwise dangerous monster 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:35913 16:52 then the monster will pick it up and waste its time zapping you 16:52 I need a dumb altar! I hate it when the only one is in minetown. 16:53 that sounds like a pretty sweet strategy, especially for a tourist 16:56 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: so what I have to do with that race is farlook into myself right? And is wiki wrong when it says that this is lycantrophy race? Like O dont think it changes into anything else randomly. 16:57 [hdf-us] [fh] Cheryl (Tmasher) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 26976 points, T:1930, killed by a giant bat 16:57 <@Winsalot> And final question: can this race polymorph? 16:57 farlooking yourself will give stats, yeah; it is a lycanthropy race. Lycanthrophy just procs a lot less in slex compared to vanilla. You might be able to #youpoly but maybe only if your XL is high enough, I'm not sure. 16:59 <@Winsalot> So when lycantrophy procs, will I become more or less monster? :) 17:00 both your normal and lycanthropy forms are quite monstery :D 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] infinigon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:133, zapped himself with a spell 17:01 <@Winsalot> But do I start game in normal or monstery form? 17:01 normal form; the monster form is called "un in Protect mode" 17:02 <@Winsalot> And is it possible to tell from my normal from wether my monsyer form will be strong? 17:02 <@Winsalot> Or is it another layer of randomness? 17:02 it's another layer of RNG and you can't see its stats until you turn into it and farlook yourself 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:28, killed by a water demon 17:03 <@Winsalot> Ok. Sounds very FUN :) 17:04 VS located 17:04 AmyBSOD\srn, I suspect we're going to end with an astral splat vs. an ascension 17:04 but I'm about to go attack Rodney 17:05 huh, why astral splat? 17:08 stenno\ito 17:08 wakey wakey stenno 17:10 <@Winsalot> Can you remind me how class damage interacts with race damage? Like my shitty class does 1d4, and my awesome race does 2d11. How strong am I? 17:10 AmyBSOD\srn, I'm not confident in my build :/ 17:10 @Winsalot: only the racial attacks are being used 17:11 the important part is that you do have a weapon attack in your main form 17:11 <@Winsalot> And how the racial attacks interact with weapons? 17:11 ^^ 17:11 bam 17:11 if you don't have a weapon attack, your melee attacks won't use the weapon you're wielding, which can obviously be problematic. 17:11 <@Winsalot> Yeah lol 17:12 <@Winsalot> But like if I wield dagger, will I deal 1d2 or 2d11? 17:12 when I ascended that lostsoul ak Thief is dead! monk, I used a bow most of the time 17:12 <@Winsalot> Or 1d2 + 2d11? 17:12 the 2d11 is a gaze attack and thus will go off regardless; I think if you wield a weapon it will use the damage value of that weapon regardless of the damage values of the attack shown in the pokedex 17:13 might be different if you're in monster form though 17:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Donkey8===>Dick (mighty) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 21318 points, T:951, killed by a water demon 17:13 <@Winsalot> Ok. Im in love with this character ❤ 17:13 if I'm not mistaken, your natural form will always do the damage of your weapon or bare-handed combat/martial arts skill, but when in monster form, the weapon attacks will do the damage shown in the pokedex if (and only if) you are unarmed 17:14 <@Winsalot> Fucking death stare ::) 17:14 [hdf-us] [fh] DonkeyDong (mighty) (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:27, killed by a water demon 17:14 polearms ♥ 17:15 stenno\ito aosdict\ito dizzylizzy\ito picked us up some trophies when this game appears on the website.. 17:15 Ah, there it goes 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:28114 17:17 <@Winsalot> Ah. I turned into long worm tail lol 17:17 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:17 *facepalm* 17:17 @Winsalot: oh and you get a powerful trample attack as well as a breath, nice! 17:18 <@Winsalot> If I die now will I turn back or die for real? 17:18 if you die in monster form, you'll turn back if and only if the cause of death is "loss of hitpoints" 17:19 also why did the earth gas get so many hits??? 17:21 [hdf-us] [fh] Indy (mighty) (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 7642 points, T:260, poisoned by a water moccasin 17:22 <@Winsalot> I kept pressing s 17:22 <@Winsalot> wanted to test if I was immune to death. But then decided to just ask you 😃 17:23 and this death was because you ran out of hit points in your natural form, I guess? 17:23 oh you quaffed from a fountain and got the polymorph result? 17:23 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44199 17:24 <@Winsalot> Yup 17:24 <@Winsalot> Now this new form seems decent as well. 16 speed ^^ 17:24 <@Winsalot> far look says im teleporting. How does it work? 17:25 oh, I think the speed in your natural form is still 12 (base speed of your role) 17:25 teleporting can be done via Ctrl-T 17:25 it requires 30 Pw though 17:28 <@Winsalot> Why does this race ganerate so many messages? 17:29 <@Winsalot> Fukcing messages about Elona... 17:30 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:44534 17:31 maybe you had a pline attack? that would cause random messages whenever you hit something 17:31 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:44550 17:32 also why does your main form always have only two attacks? it should be able to get up to five I think 17:33 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated the high priest of Moloch, on T:44611 17:34 .. I did? 17:35 ah, good :) I was already suspecting a bug but it seems to be alright 17:37 uh oh 17:37 No amulet 17:37 Or priest 17:37 NCommander: maybe someone else killed the priest and took the amulet? 17:37 found it 17:38 Someone demongating in Yeesh-unspellable 17:38 And that smushed the high priest 17:39 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: is playing rac that can only eat metal hard? 17:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:26471 17:39 oh, you should still be able to eat normal food, as long as you're in your normal form 17:39 that said, there's the incantifier race, who can only eat metal or stone, and I didn't have trouble when I played one 17:40 chain mails and stuff are giving pretty good nutrition, and killing a bunch of orcs gives plenty of scimitars and other delicious weapons :P 17:40 <[Demo][srn]> i really like how you bastardize good shit 17:41 YES 17:42 OUT OF THE SANCTUM 17:42 ASCENSION RUN TIME 17:42 <@Winsalot> Nope, can't eat normal food even in base form 😃 17:43 Winsalot: wtf, didn't know that could happen 17:44 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:44851 17:44 <@Winsalot> 2d11 - uses weapon - unique Death attack 17:44 <@Winsalot> what? 17:44 Winsalot: ooh, I get it now! your base form is vampiric so you can only drain blood from corpses! 17:44 or at least that's my guess 17:44 I have a unique death ability, I die to grid bugs 17:44 haha, death attack is just what it says on the tin, it can instakill monsters sometimes 17:46 <@Winsalot> hooooly shit! 17:46 <@Winsalot> My monster can eat walls 17:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:26643 17:46 <@Winsalot> like the rat-person race in 4k 17:46 yeah, you gain nutrition for every tile you eat out :) 17:47 <@Winsalot> Im in monster form now though 17:47 <@Winsalot> we will see how it works when I turn back 17:48 <@Winsalot> but damn. Slex is just amazing 17:48 <@Winsalot> This race is everything I ever needed 😃 17:48 ♥ thanks a lot for saying that! 17:48 <[Demo][srn]> wait what race is it? 17:48 * AmyBSOD\srn hugs the traitor of Winsalot :) 17:48 * NCommander keeps pushing up 17:49 NCommander: does FH have the most annoying feature ever, i.e. the mysterious force? 17:49 <@Winsalot> And this fucker also get spellbooks for leveling up! 17:50 yeah, slex binders are probably OP 17:50 <@Winsalot> Demo: ak thief is dead! 17:50 <@Winsalot> Oh, books are from my role? 17:50 <@Winsalot> I forgot 😃 17:50 <@Winsalot> Just remembered that binders have good skills 17:50 <[Demo][srn]> slex is like a safe poison 17:51 binders also gain intrinsics and techniques from leveling up their skills 17:51 <[Demo][srn]> like you can experience all the horrors of bad things without it causing long term damage 17:51 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Binder_(role_in_Slash%27em_Extended) 17:54 <@Winsalot> Ok, im back to my base form 17:54 huh your base form has a rusting attack, that's probably annoying 17:54 <@Winsalot> metallivorous. 17:54 <@Winsalot> Annoying for enemies you mean 😃 17:55 hi! 17:55 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:55 AmyBSOD\srn, nope 17:55 AmyBSOD\srn, did you remove MF from SLEX? 17:55 NCommander: nope :P 17:55 AmyBSOD\srn, figures 17:55 <@Winsalot> And I dont see anything about this being vampiric 17:55 * NCommander reached the Castle 17:56 NCommander: because I didn't have to - slashem already removed it :D 17:58 I have two of my clan's three medusa kills, 66%, what do I win 17:58 shit 17:58 I got canceled 17:59 AH 17:59 * NCommander lost the amulet 18:01 <@Winsalot> AmyBSOD\srn: wielding heavy iron ball? How much crazier can slex get? ❤ 18:02 Winsalot: but you can do that in vanilla too! 18:05 What's an easy thing to play in slex 18:05 I've never played it before 18:06 angel coupled with a vanilla role I guess? 18:06 at least everyone seems to be playing the angel race 18:06 <[Demo][srn]> angel monk 18:06 * zid` tries to find angel in the six pages 18:07 sadly it's getting late and I have to get up early tomorrow, so I'll be off to sleep now 18:07 good night! 18:07 Junethack: vaffanculo ascended a game of DynaHack on ascension.run! 18:07 ergh it has bad default options.. 18:08 -!- AmyBSOD\srn has quit [Quit: Sleep-bundle-wing!] 18:08 if I had a dumb altar I'd be in the valley rn 18:08 screw this I'm doing a 361 game 18:08 dizzylizzy\ito: Picked us up a bunch of 3.4.3 stuff 18:08 everything except ascended, I did celestial disgrace 18:09 we don't have any 361 trophies yet do we 18:09 only luckstone 18:10 Lemme snag those 18:10 do you still get the luckstone/soko trophies if your ascension isn't on hardfought? does NAO track that in the xlogfile bitfield? 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:28449 18:12 oops 18:13 where's my crowning gift? 18:13 putz 18:13 you started as a valk 18:13 that is your gift 18:13 i started as a valk because junethack 18:13 apparently I learned how to chi strike 18:13 no idea what button that might be 18:14 <[Demo][srn]> #technique 18:15 do I want to spam these to use up my pw 18:15 Ok then 18:15 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:48209 18:15 brb 18:16 back 18:16 unfortunately, my portal detection method sucks 18:18 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:48254 18:18 ugh 18:18 Coaligned minetown, my lucky day 18:23 dizzylizzy\ito: [backscroll] A shield being silver does NOT make it grant reflection. Only "polished shields" do (which are still "shield of reflection" when IDed). Polished shields can be made out of something other than silver, and still confer reflection. 18:24 !tell AmyBSOD\srn Clearly, water walking shoes should be just regular walking shoes, but with an object material of LIQUID. 18:24 Will do, aosdict\ito! 18:25 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 18:25 ugh 18:26 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Val Dwa Fem Law), 100392 points, T:48628, killed by an air elemental (with the Amulet) 18:26 splat 18:26 ooops 18:26 I wasn't confident with my build 18:26 <[Demo][srn]> why the hell do none of the variants livelog sacri gifts? 18:26 [Demo][srn]: Any chance you could tell me if any of these corpses are worth eating in this ice box 18:27 dizzylizzy\ito: NAO should track luckstone and soko in the achieve field, yes, they're part of vanilla. 18:27 <[Demo][srn]> in slex? 18:27 yea 18:27 idk what things are and I found a big icebox 18:27 <[Demo][srn]> no idea there are too many monsters 18:27 <[Demo][srn]> i know the slashem ones 18:27 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:27 <[Demo][srn]> but there are mostly amy monsters 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:55728 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:55737 18:28 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:28 zid` play slex when amy's watching; else you're effectively playing unspoiled and have no chance 18:29 whatever :P 18:30 I'm going to beat things until I die 18:30 * NCommander sighs 18:30 FIgures 18:31 * NCommander is not up for another game 18:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 18:34 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2436 points, T:3462, frozen by a brown mold 18:34 shpingrlde\ootc: I dunno, I got the mines' end luckstone effectively playing unspoiled... 18:34 and then died! 18:37 <[Demo][srn]> wow jt strong 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36586 18:39 shpingrlde\ootc: nah, I just saved because it got boring 18:39 :O 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36590 18:39 it's still viable 18:39 * Pinkbeast writes self a note, don't forget you can choke on your food 18:39 swank 18:40 aosdict\ito: y ou forgot to congratulate me on my celestial disgrace :P 18:41 i need to update splicehack tonight before i go to bed 18:42 !who 18:42 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] Demo [dyn] mighty [fh] NCommander [fh] k2 [gh] monstergrin [dnh] Cropper [nh361] hothraxxa [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] PyroL [xnh] 18:42 K2: [hdf-eu] zid [slex] damerell [nh343] jt [gh] Muad [nh361] 18:42 K2: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh361] 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37164 18:49 zid`: hooray! at least our clan will get that trophy 18:49 (Ruggo didn't generate in my game >:( ) 18:49 I've never played this before 18:49 so me > you? 18:50 I think I'mma try for soko trophy in every soko-having variant 18:50 that might be fun 18:50 ah.. that was not a luckstone.. 18:50 <[Demo][srn]> have fun with slex if you get unlucky 18:50 you probably don't want to suffer through slex soko 18:51 (also, is there ANY variant that outright removes soko?) 18:51 <[Demo][srn]> not this year 18:51 any idea where the luckstone might be? 18:51 <[Demo][srn]> but next year ndnh will 18:51 aosdict\ito: 3.1.3 ;-) 18:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] PyroL (Val Dwa Fem Law), 929 points, T:2562, killed by a soldier ant 18:51 * Pinkbeast makes another little note saying "armour works better if you wear it" 18:51 idk if it's hidden somewhere, on the floor somewhere, a monster has it, or what 18:51 I don't think I'm willing to suffer through most of slex 18:52 No offense to Amy but I have very strong conflicting feelings about most aspects of slex 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28762 18:52 dizzylizzy\ito: I think this is uh not unusual 18:52 * dizzylizzy\ito drinks a potion of confusion 18:52 !booze everyone 18:52 * Beholder delivers everyone a schooner of the hooch, conjured by Izchak at 453 Kelvin. 18:52 Not until the hangover wears off :-/ 18:53 nooo, best thing for it 18:53 oh I died 18:53 from an illness I didn't know I had 18:54 maybe splicehack can copy some of slex's races and roles 18:54 there's the never implemented dpeghack that would have removed sokoban and dropped all the loot of sokoban at the location where sokoban's stairs would have been 18:54 so that we can try them in a less crazy environment 18:54 sometimes less is more 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38112 18:55 GAH cannibal 18:55 bhaak - TBF, it should also dump all soko monsters on top of that lootpile 18:55 including some extra monsters for many turns spent snacking and boulderhumping 18:56 and give you +4 strength? 18:56 zid` - yes! or at least a circular track around which to push a boulder ;) 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38486 18:58 shpingrlde\ootc: also, dump all 70 or so boulders on that square 18:58 Cannibal twice, whoops 18:58 <[Demo][srn]> yum yum 19:01 Whops. I mean... heroically obtained another unique death for the clan. 19:02 <[Demo][srn]> dont be a hero 19:02 be a zero! 19:02 be a zero instead ;) 19:03 <[Demo][srn]> 1 more soko level 19:03 <[Demo][srn]> and im hungry 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh361] Cropper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:57907 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39090 19:04 how do i check what my computer thinks the saved rsa fingerprint is? 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39091 19:04 nice 19:04 shpingrlde\ootc what are you using to play? 19:04 HAHAHAHA, Perseus had a potion of blindness in his sack! 19:04 what an idiot! 19:04 LOSER! 19:05 linux, i just do ssh nethack@hardfought.org 19:05 shpingrlde\ootc: If they don't match your ssh client will complain. 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] pincushion (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 11 points, T:140, killed by a fox 19:05 k 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed dilithium crystals", on T:39141 19:06 only if you added their pub key in advance.. 19:06 zid`: Er, no, also on any connection after the first. And since shpingrlde\ootc says the computer has one saved, that is the case. 19:07 what if it was wrong the first time :D 19:07 shpingrlde\ootc: How would that happen? 19:07 * shpingrlde\ootc dances softly against the mitm 19:07 Pinkbeast i can't say i have any idea 19:07 In a security sensitive context you might get the key initially by some other means. Connecting to a nethack server? Probably not a security sensitive context. :-) 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39313 19:09 And you're right that (eg) your ISP _could_ mitm you, although it's unlikely to be a concern unless you live in, say, China. 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39398 19:10 While I was kind of kidding, is there any way to check my clan's unique deaths? 19:11 don't look at Clans page, it is a junky and pointless knockoff of the Clan Scoreboard :) 19:11 Yeah, go the clan page and scorll down 19:11 then you can know! 19:11 Go to the clan page and scroll down> huh, that was easier than I expected 19:13 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 3072 points, T:2988, killed by a water moccasin 19:13 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 0 points, T:45, killed by an iguana 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:39495 19:14 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 50 points, T:12, killed by a falling long sword 19:14 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 8 points, T:65, killed by a gecko 19:18 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 69 points, T:34, killed by a black pudding 19:19 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 50 points, T:110, killed by Ms. Gorlowka, the shopkeeper's magic missile 19:20 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law), 0 points, T:29, killed by a gnome 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39680 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:23163 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39694 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39725 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39740 19:23 wew 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:39764 19:24 <[Demo][srn]> a prize sack 19:24 Whoops, dead again 19:24 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:39786 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:39795 19:28 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:39818 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 dilithium crystals", on T:39818 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 dilithium crystals", on T:39820 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 greased dilithium crystals", on T:39820 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:39823 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 dilithium crystals", on T:39824 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 cursed dilithium crystals", on T:39824 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "3 historic blessed dilithium crystals", on T:39825 19:31 ooops forgot to engrave elbereth :( 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3515080 points, T:39826, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1527884307.nh361.txt 19:32 !streak hypnotist 19:32 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist Max[nh361]: 6 (2018-05-21 - 2018-06-03)(current). 19:32 nooodle: [hdf-eu] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 19:32 nooodle: [hdf-au] No streaks for hypnotist on this server. 19:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Excess Flood] 19:33 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:35 AmyBSOD: nymphets are in first 19:35 before i even ascended, we were already in first 19:35 <[Demo][srn]> wow 19:35 I ain't never gonna catch up 19:36 Junethack: hypnotist ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on www.hardfought.org! 19:36 Junethack: New user virus_dave registered! https://junethack.net/user/virus_dave 19:41 trying to see if i feel up to attempting a pacifist while on a streak of length 6 19:49 <[Demo][srn]> whats a good mundane wish other than a shield of reflection? 19:50 horn of whatever 19:50 <[Demo][srn]> gross 19:50 tshirt 19:50 <[Demo][srn]> man mundane wishes suck 19:50 silver trident 19:51 tinning kit 19:51 <[Demo][srn]> can you wish obj material in dyna? 19:51 probly not 19:52 <[Demo][srn]> i guess ill take the shield 19:52 <[Demo][srn]> what the hell, doesnt even livelog wishes? 19:53 somebody call the waaaambulance 19:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:28680 20:04 blessed Anhur 20:04 Muad\ito: At least kill medusa with it, that game is useless otherwise :P 20:05 what, why? 20:07 <[Demo][srn]> why is the unnethack town branch so shit? 20:07 <[Demo][srn]> like its so bland 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] jmcunx (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3394 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:27255 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh361] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging named why are you 0:1 when i don't know charging?", on T:30415 20:22 best livelog msg ever' 20:22 [Demo][srn] quit yer bitchin 20:26 <[Demo][srn]> how else am i supposed to deal with my problems if i dont make everyone else suffer? 20:27 heh 20:27 <[Demo][srn]> whats a good mundane wish other than a shield of reflection? 20:27 drink 20:27 blessed magic harp 20:27 !rum [Demo][srn] 20:27 * Beholder tosses [Demo][srn] a tall glass of white rum, brewed by Athame at 229 Kelvin. 20:28 <[Demo][srn]> hmm ok so i got given quest, not sure if i should do it 20:28 <[Demo][srn]> xp lvl 10 vdfl, dyna 20:28 <[Demo][srn]> maybe if i had a ring of levitation 20:28 oh dynahack wishing, most excellent fun not 20:30 <[Demo][srn]> ok nope ill die 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:377, imp 20:39 <[Demo][srn]> regeneration is a cruel addiction 20:40 isn't dyna wishing ported from un? 20:40 <[Demo][srn]> dyna everything that isnt engine is ported from un 20:40 <[Demo][srn]> except trophies :P 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] jmcunx (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3967 points, T:4939, killed by a soldier ant 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:51, gnome 20:43 [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3022 20:44 \o/ 20:44 watery tarts are the best 20:44 You finish eating the cave spider corpse. You feel healthy. 20:45 yeah buddy 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 565 points, T:634, cadaver 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:29069 20:47 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 308 points, T:325, orc 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 79 points, T:21, gnome 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 630 points, T:1006, jackal 20:56 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00 <[Demo][srn]> yey lord surtur down in dyna way too early 21:00 <[Demo][srn]> he nearly took me out 21:01 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 21:11 <[Demo][srn]> https://i.imgur.com/xCekgca.png is this some special level? 21:13 <[Demo][srn]> i dont think it is i think i hit rng jackpot? 21:17 Congratulations, you won 21:21 <[Demo][srn]> ok i think its happening again, i think this is a thing that the level generator does in dyna every now and then 21:22 <[Demo][srn]> yeah it did it again but with a different shaped room but instead of 3x4, 6x2 21:24 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 21:29 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:37 -!- stenno\ito has joined #hardfought 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 75 points, T:17, imp 21:40 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:43 <[Demo][srn]> thats a dyna medusa kill 21:43 <[Demo][srn]> why does nothing from dyna livelog? 21:46 it's not finished, yo 21:46 do you know anything about dyna or do you just complain when it's not dnh :P 21:51 <[Demo][srn]> dyna is still being developed? 21:51 <[Demo][srn]> no dont worry, i still complain when its dnh, you should see the greif ive given chris, christ 21:54 I don't think Dyna is still actively developed, last I checked. 21:54 But it hasn't really been superceded by anything specific either. 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 2622 points, T:1894, orc 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 126 points, T:88, imp 21:57 no, it's not being developed, but it doesn't feel finished to me, either, because of that long blog post about how the dev gave up due to code spagghetti but still had many plans in the air 21:58 <[Demo][srn]> whats up with spork? 21:58 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 21:59 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 22:01 -!- stenno\ito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:02 <[Demo][srn]> classic dyna prank, two wands in the wishing chest 22:02 <[Demo][srn]> ah one is cancel, one is wish 22:05 <[Demo][srn]> saving for the night ill try to figure it out in the morning 22:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:29810 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 625 points, T:944, orc 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 110 points, T:68, imp 22:29 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 22:30 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 22:30 !tell [Demo][srn] https://tung.github.io/DynaHack/2016/02/18/stepping-down-from-maintaining-dynahack/ 22:30 Will do, shpingrlde\ootc! 22:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:30063 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 2042 points, T:2756, starvation 22:32 <[Demo][srn]> oh this is amusing 22:32 [Demo][srn]: Message from shpingrlde\ootc at 2018-06-03 22:30 EDT: https://tung.github.io/DynaHack/2016/02/18/stepping-down-from-maintaining-dynahack/ 22:32 <[Demo][srn]> the personal insanities of a maniac 22:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:32 <[Demo][srn]> at least i hope thats what it is 22:33 -!- a_boudelia has quit [Client Quit] 22:34 -!- a_boudelia has joined #hardfought 22:35 <[Demo][srn]> god im so glad i have nothing to do with nitro 22:38 <[Demo][srn]> "SporkHack had ceased development in 2009 (I think?)" wow 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1324 points, T:1021, orc 22:41 if someone could add boojums to their variant, we could discard sporkhack 22:41 <[Demo][srn]> and snarks 22:41 <[Demo][srn]> im sure slex has them 22:42 if so, they are very rare 22:42 i think someone on ootc enjoyed sporkhack last year 22:43 and slex makes it too hard to get telepathy so you can't really evade them like you would in sporkhack 22:43 and found that spork had more to it than meets the (wiki reader's) eye 22:44 <[Demo][srn]> im sure slex doesnt implement them the same way as spork 22:44 <[Demo][srn]> if it implements it with any depth slex doesn't 22:45 <[Demo][srn]> im really glad the dynahack author documented some of his insanity 22:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Feltersnatch (mighty) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 18939 points, T:1225, killed by a water moccasin 22:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:30574 22:50 <[Demo][srn]> god the whole DT politics are real and when i say inflamatory stuff i am fueling a real fire 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Priest ### Mal ###) stole 380 zorkmids of merchandise from the assorted antiques of Asidonhopo on T:438 23:00 <@rikersan\srn> [demo] have you considered streaming your rants about variants 23:00 <@rikersan\srn> like not the gameplay 23:00 <@rikersan\srn> just the rants 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 1109 points, T:528, dead orc 23:00 <@rikersan\srn> every friday yuo can rant about chris, every saturday amy, etc. 23:02 <[Demo][srn]> nobody cares 23:02 <[Demo][srn]> not even me 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:33147 23:25 Junethack: Anerag ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.1 on nethack.alt.org! 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 92797 points, T:35674, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 5925 points, T:4255, killer bee 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1198 points, T:2315, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 23:44 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class H), on T:2399 23:56 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh13d] rustmonster (Pri Mal), 50 points, T:35, imp 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3470 points, T:3938, killed by a pony