00:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:23085
00:14 <bouquet> !tell aosdict blesses ?removecurse doesn't uncurse the whole inventory in xnh by design or bug?
00:14 <Beholder> Will do, bouquet!
00:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Rog Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a pony, on T:3658
00:22 <PavelB> dizzylizzy: I believe the only option that's changed between 361 and xnh is the addition of the permanent halluctionation option
00:25 <PavelB> !who
00:25 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] amelie [nh361] bouquet [xnh] 
00:25 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-eu] No current players
00:25 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-au] No current players
00:25 <PavelB> !wereis bouquet 
00:25 <PavelB> !whereis bouquet 
00:25 <Beholder> PavelB: [hdf-us] bouquet [xnh]: (Mon Hum Fem Cha) T:23971 The Dungeons of Doom level: 18
00:27 <aosdict> bouquet: I made no changes to blessed remove curse, it should function as in vanilla.
00:27 <Beholder> aosdict: Message from bouquet at 2018-05-28 00:14 EDT: blesses ?removecurse doesn't uncurse the whole inventory in xnh by design or bug?
00:28 <bouquet> aosdict I don't think I ever had it NOT uncurse all my inventory in vanilla.  Have I always been lucky?
00:29 <aosdict> It _should_ uncurse all your inventory.
00:29 <aosdict> What happened that didn't do that?
00:30 <bouquet> I had some cursed armor (worn), daggers, and an amulet which remained cursed.  About a dozen other things uncursed.
00:31 <bouquet> it's in my current ttyrec.
00:31 <bouquet> dunno if that helps
00:35 <aosdict> what turn?
00:38 <aosdict> ok see it
00:39 <bouquet> what do you think? Did I do something weird?
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00:40 <aosdict> everything _looks_ normal
00:41 <bouquet> only think I can think of is I'd only price-id'd it.
00:41 <bouquet> but still, that's never been a factor afaik
00:44 <aosdict> I am not able to reproduce
00:45 <aosdict> and the code is clear: if blessed, uncurse everything in inventory chain
00:46 <bouquet> oh well.
00:46 <bouquet> You saw it, though?
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00:47 <bouquet> must be a weird corner case.  I'm pretty sure my alignment is very good and I'm in good favor with my deity and my luck is high.
00:50 <aosdict> none of those matter
00:51 <PavelB> Maybe it has to do with the amulet itself?
00:51 <aosdict> did you try saving and restoring and seeing if the inventory wasn't updating right? maybe it's a curses bug?
00:51 <PavelB> Are there any autocursing amulets?
00:51 <aosdict> PavelB: No, the worn cursed armor also stayed cursed.
00:51 <aosdict> A dwarvish helm has nothing special about it.
00:52 <PavelB> It being a curses bug makes sense
00:52 <bouquet> oh right, I'm using the hardfought curses ui.  Maybe it's that?
00:52 <PavelB> It often takes a while for my stuff to appear cursed after I get "This water's no good!" from a fountain.
00:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 11331 points, T:5781, killed by a sasquatch
00:53 <bouquet> PavelB I went back and watched the ttyrec of my fountain quaffing that caused the cursing and it was immediate.
00:53 <PavelB> Not always, but it's delayed a lot of the time
00:53 <PavelB> Sometimes certain items instantly appear cursed and others I found out are cursed after a few turns
00:54 <bouquet> thanks for looking and confirming that I'm not totally crazy.  
00:54 <bouquet> gotta split, l8r
00:55 <aosdict> bouquet: If you restore the game and it's still really not cursed, then that still seems to be an engine bug. What happens if you try to remove the still-cursed armor?
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01:48 <rld> <@luxidream> odds of cthulhu dodging eight consecutive death charges?
02:08 <Mandevil> @luxidream Non-zero.
02:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] fuck thisgame (Luxidream) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 338298 points, T:43689, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-05-28%2002_13_27%2C%20fuck%20thisgame-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt
02:18 <Mandevil> Congrats, @luxidream
02:19 <rld> <@luxidream> thanks!
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03:08 <rld> <@Jendic> grats luxi!
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04:55 <stennowork> if only becoming literate was that easy :)
05:00 <bug_sniper> submitted to the qdb
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05:39 <rld> <@PsyMar> hi.  ping me when the tourney starts
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05:39 <LarienTelrunya> @Winsalot: are you planning to join a clan? I'd like to have you in mine :)
05:39 <LarienTelrunya> @PsyMar: alright, will do :)
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07:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] WAKE ME UP INSIDE (Luxidream) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 2351 points, T:2338, killed by a gnome
07:44 <rld> <@kritixilithos> you have woken up in heaven
07:44 <stennowork> i think i will focus on xnethack this tourney mostly
07:44 <stennowork> either that or 3.6.1
07:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 13824 points, T:818, killed by a small mimic
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08:03 <[Demo]> man the number of un trophies this year is hilarious
08:04 <[Demo]> what's is everyone's jnh itinerary?
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08:11 <bhaak> I never ascended jnethack :-}
08:12 <[Demo]> i think im gonna do a dnh binder run and then have to play un
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08:15 <stennowork> [Demo], mostly xnethack and 3.6.1
08:15 <stennowork> [Demo], but i will try to get trophies in all variants and ascend half of the variants
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08:17 <[Demo]> i think im gonna go for demogorgon in dnh
08:18 <[Demo]> the problem is im not sure how to force him
08:19 <[Demo]> i can definitely force a win against him
08:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 28533 points, T:2398, killed by a bolt of lightning, while praying
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08:30 <Tangles> !tell k2 pushed fixes for some small but annoying curses bugs to 3.6.1
08:30 <Beholder> Will do, Tangles!
08:32 <K2> ok
08:32 <Beholder> K2: Message from Tangles at 2018-05-28 08:30 EDT: pushed fixes for some small but annoying curses bugs to 3.6.1
08:32 <K2> o/
08:32 <[Demo]> hmm might not be able to force a win against demo after all
08:33 <Tangles> \o
08:33 <Tangles> How's it going K2?
08:33 <K2> going alright... just woke up :P
08:33 <Tangles> heh
08:33 <K2> no work today (memorial day holiday)
08:33 <K2> how are you?
08:33 <Tangles> Oh it was a holiday here today too!
08:34 <Tangles> I have been away visiting my folks.
08:34 <K2> whats the holiday in australia?
08:36 <[Demo]> emu rememberance day
08:37 <K2> NetHack 3.6.1 updated (all servers)
08:37 <K2> ^^ curses fixes
08:37 <Tangles> Why do we need to remember emus?
08:37 <Tangles> It's not like the bastards are extinct.
08:37 <K2> [Demo] you hit a nerve
08:37 <Tangles> lol no
08:38 <[Demo]> ppl arent extinct and we still try to remember them
08:38 <K2> Tangles nemesis animal is apparently the emu
08:38 <K2> (mine is the parrot)
08:38 <rld> <@Tone> 🤔
08:39 <stennowork> didn't you lose a war against emus once
08:39 <stennowork> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
08:41 <Tangles> stennowork: How do you even know this stuff?
08:41 <K2> lol is that really a thing?
08:42 <K2> its like the great chipmunk battle in vermont from 1803
08:42 <stennowork> Tangles, QI
08:42 <Tangles> I mean, yes we lost to a bunch of angry-looking flightless birds, but to be fair, we were outnumbered.
08:42 <Mandevil> Outnumbered and outflanked :)
08:43 <[Demo]> can we get a nethack tribute level for that?
08:43 <Mandevil> And outpecked :)
08:43 <[Demo]> big room but its emus
08:43 <[Demo]> and they aren't having your shit
08:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] hai (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 61189 points, T:14729, killed by a bolt of cold
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08:46 <K2> !tell aosdict Tangles pushes some fixes for curses
08:46 <Beholder> Will do, K2!
08:46 <K2> !tell AntiGulp Tangles pushed some fixed for curses
08:46 <Beholder> Will do, K2!
08:47 <Tangles> https://goo.gl/images/y99mq3
08:48 <[Demo]> pretty sure emus cant be worse than canadian geese
08:48 <[Demo]> truly the must uncanadian thing with canadian in its name
08:48 <Tangles> oh yeah geese are nasty.
08:48 <K2> good lord Tangles
08:49 <K2> all birds are nasty actually
08:49 <[Demo]> does australia have its own goose variant?
08:49 <K2> direct descndants of dinosaurs
08:49 <[Demo]> that is like, really bad
08:49 <Tangles> I don't actually know if we have native geese.
08:49 <Tangles> black swans are evil bastards.
08:49 <K2> that sparrow looking all cute on your bird feeder is actually thinking of 12 different ways it can kill you
08:50 <[Demo]> k2 ducks are pretty chill
08:50 <K2> peacocks are really bad
08:51 <stennowork> geese are terrible
08:51 <stennowork> geese and swans
08:51 <stennowork> fucking assholes
08:51 <[Demo]> theres a homeless duck that lives with the homeless ppl near a sandwich shop i go to a lot
08:51 <stennowork> as a kid i got bitten by a swan once
08:51 <[Demo]> and the homeless duck is pretty chill
08:52 <[Demo]> thankfully we dont have swans here
09:00 <aosdict> K2: what are the curses fixes?
09:00 <Beholder> aosdict: Message from K2 at 2018-05-28 08:46 EDT: Tangles pushes some fixes for curses
09:01 <stennowork> aosdict, what did you do
09:01 <aosdict> stennowork: created improved tin openers earlier since I couldn't find you. Anyone else registered that needs an invite?
09:01 <K2> aosdict there's a few, look from may 25th to present - https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commits/hardfought
09:01 <Tangles> aosdict: THey are also in the curses branch which may be easier for you to merge.
09:02 <stennowork> aosdict, can i please be the admin of my clan, that would be nice
09:02 <aosdict> stennowork: "promote to admin" is a thing, right? Can I give you admin and then relinquish it myself?
09:02 <stennowork> try it
09:02 <stennowork> lol
09:03 <aosdict> well I don't see such a thing, despite remembering it
09:03 <stennowork> an alternative would be disbanding the clan and i create it new and invite you and the others
09:04 <[Demo]> then it would be a lie
09:04 <[Demo]> and would need to be improved improved tin openers
09:04 <aosdict> ^
09:04 <stennowork> no, 
09:04 <aosdict> ok disbanding
09:04 <aosdict> done
09:04 <stennowork> alright, thanks
09:04 <[Demo]> +2 tin openers
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09:05 <stennowork> aosdict, you are just aosdict right?
09:05 <aosdict> Tangles: Is this at all related to bouquet's weird issue yesterday where a blessed scroll of remove curse didn't uncurse everything?
09:05 <aosdict> stennowork: yes
09:06 <stennowork> greqrg, whats your junethack player name
09:06 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: PavelB: need to rejoin ImprovedTinOpeners
09:07 <Tangles> aosdict: no
09:07 <raisse> different kind of curses?
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09:09 <Tangles> It just prevents autocomplete of wizmode commands (so #l will autocomplete to #loot, for example), and fixes a couple of weird things that happen when you try to select a count from a stack, like d12x or whatever.
09:11 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> When you dip for Excalibur you need to be over level 5 ( character level not dungeon ), and lawful correct?
09:12 <K2> yes
09:12 <K2> lvl 5 or higher and lawful
09:12 <K2> long sword only (katana wont work)
09:12 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Gotcha
09:13 <K2> the oracle level is generally regarded as the best place to dip for excalibur
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09:13 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> So as far as weapons go there is no strength requirements only skill requirements which increase with use
09:13 <K2> yes
09:13 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> oracle level... going to have to look that up
09:14 <K2> its around dungeon level 5-7 or so
09:14 <K2> the oracle is surrounded by 4 fountains
09:14 <K2> oracle is peaceful
09:14 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Oh yes I remember that now
09:14 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Ok so if I am a valk, I look at #enhance and I don't see any bow skills. Does that mean no matter how much use I will never get skilled/basic etc with it?
09:15 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Also as a Valk if I just found a warhammer on spawn it would be a good idea to use it as with a Valk I can get to Expert per the wiki
09:18 <K2> regarding warhammer - depends. the first sacrifice gift for a valk is mjollnir
09:18 <K2> so if your plan is to use it, yeah not a bad idea
09:18 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> oh thats pretty neat
09:19 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Seems it has better stats than excalibur
09:19 <K2> if you dont see a skill on your enchance list, it means you cant train that weapon or ability at all
09:19 <K2> excalibur > mjollnir
09:19 <K2> mjollnir is great for early and even midgame, but excalibur overall is a better weapon
09:20 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Huh maybe I just got surprised by the 1d24 in the wiki. However it doesn't give overall approx damage like it does for excalibur ( 2-18 ) etc
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] Zanza (Val Dwa Fem Law), 47 points, T:279, killed by a jackal
09:25 <aosdict> Well, looks like it's now a priority for everyone to play unnethack to max out the number of trophies
09:28 <bhaak> if you're good, it's only 13 games to catch em all
09:30 <aosdict> yeah but this is junethack not juunnethack
09:30 <aosdict> heh I like how seamlessly you can add "un"
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09:32 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> I like the idea of using a towel as a weapon
09:32 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> haha
09:32 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Just snapping goblins with a wet towel
09:33 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Crit right to the eye
09:33 <[Demo]> if i was bhaak i would have done that shit with un years ago
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09:46 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> So if I am level 2 and have splint mail and elven mithril coat. It would be better to go with the mithril as the lower weight would mean lower food consumption even though it has one less AC correct?
09:49 <K2> go with the elven mithril
09:49 <K2> along with lower weight, you get a bump in MC
09:49 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> What about selling stuff to the shop? Seems that carrying stuff would really just cause you to have more hunger killing you faster potentially and the sell to the shop is always pretty low
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09:51 <K2> depends how badly you need to $$$
09:52 <[Demo]> nethack isnt about having money
09:52 <[Demo]> its about spending it
09:53 <[Demo]> cause money isnt gonna stop that damn out or range poly trap created jabberwock from killing you
09:55 <aosdict> Lower weight does not mean lower food consumption.
09:55 <rld> <@Zanza ( PC )> Really? I thought food consumption took into account overall weight
09:56 <[Demo]> oh cool i broke bow multishot *somehow*
09:59 <jonadab> Evil Patch Idea:  having or seeing food makes you hungry.
09:59 <[Demo]> sounds like a slex race
09:59 <[Demo]> fatass
09:59 <jonadab> Even if it's a lizard corpse you're carrying.
09:59 <jonadab> Makes you want to eat it.
09:59 <K2> Zanza if you're burdened or stressed, etc that takes more turns per move which can make you become hungry in a shorter amount of time
10:00 <K2> but its the turns taken, not the weight per se
10:00 <aosdict> ^ yes, it does have an indirect effect, but not as long as you stay unencumbered
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10:02 <bhaak> [Demo]: I always wanted uniques to be trackable on xlogfile, just never coded up my idea on how to do it.  then slex wanted to add a few achievements, and I thought "oh god, not another 'incorrect bit set' hunting session", so I pitched my 'generic achievements' PoC to Amy and was motivated enough to add it to unnethack as well :)
10:05 <[Demo]> oh neat
10:05 <[Demo]> is it working how you wanted it to?
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10:06 <K2> may have a look at that for grunthack and sporkhack
10:06 <K2> for next year of course
10:08 <bhaak> [Demo]: yes. although if slex would track every unique it has, K2 would need to add a few petabyte-sized disks to his servers :-)
10:10 <[Demo]> what annoys me is unique monsters that aren't unique
10:12 <[Demo]> how many cubic meters are nethack loadstones?
10:13 <K2> petabyte
10:13 <K2> hah
10:15 <[Demo]> uh oh
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10:26 <greqrg> stennowork:  I'm planning on playing under the OotC banner again this tournament
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10:39 <aosdict> greqrg: noooo!
10:40 <aosdict> they're already going to win, why make it even more magnified?
10:41 <stennowork> greqrg, nou :<
10:42 <stennowork> fair enough
10:42 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder
10:42 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org  server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ New server in Sydney, AU - one step closer to world domination :)
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10:43 <PavelB> OotC?
10:44 <K2> Order of the Cockatrice
10:46 <PavelB> I feel like that name just isn't as exciting as "SlexyRobberNymphets" or "ImprovedTinOpeners"
10:47 <Announcy> Junethack: New user bouquet registered! https://junethack.net/user/bouquet
10:48 <K2> hmm
10:49 <K2> oh right
10:49 <K2> !setmintc
10:49 <Beholder> K2: Min reported turncount for k2 removed.
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] k2 (Hea Mal), 50 points, T:73, leprechaun
10:55 <K2> \o/
10:55 <aosdict> ey Beholder where's my Baalzebub kill
10:56 <K2> i may have reset him when that event happened
10:56 <stennowork> <aosdict> they're already going to win
10:56 <K2> beholder now announces nethack 1.3d deaths (thanks Tangles)
10:56 <stennowork> what kind of attitude is that :v
10:56 <stennowork> FR: 1.3d livelog
10:56 <stennowork> (joking)
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10:57 <[Demo]> ootc might win this year but that won't happen next year
10:57 <K2> !tell bhaak any way to have 1.3d log 'killed by a(n) <event>' instead of just the event?
10:57 <Beholder> Will do, K2!
10:58 <[Demo]> the secret plan is to bring all of the non ootc members closer together this year so next year its megaclan time and ootc dies to sheer force
10:59 <LarienTelrunya> [Demo]: if you broadcast what the secret plan is, it's not all that secret anymore...
10:59 <[Demo]> thats the joke
10:59 <[Demo]> its not a real plan or a real secret
11:00 <K2> the secret is within the 'secret' annoucement
11:00 <K2> its code known only be a select few
11:00 <K2> by
11:00 <greqrg> aosdict:  hmm I do like to think that there's a little more parity than that among the top clans
11:00 <aosdict> well istr that last jnh it was Luxidream = game over for everyone else
11:01 <stennowork> K2, re: killed by an, i don't think that is possibl
11:01 <stennowork> e
11:01 <LarienTelrunya> Luxidream should join the nymphets *bundlebundlebundle* :)
11:02 <greqrg> I guess that is pretty accurate actually
11:03 <K2> stennowork why not? its possible with other variants
11:03 <stennowork> K2, i think its how nethack 1.3d actually expresses the killer
11:04 <K2> ok
11:05 <stennowork> K2, like, there is also the killer: "drowned in a moat by a giant eel" and stuff
11:05 <K2> yup
11:06 <Announcy> Junethack: New user HotSauce registered! https://junethack.net/user/HotSauce
11:06 <K2> mmm hotsauce
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11:11 <bhaak> yeah, what he said
11:11 <Beholder> bhaak: Message from K2 at 2018-05-28 10:57 EDT: any way to have 1.3d log 'killed by a(n) <event>' instead of just the event?
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11:12 <bhaak> or "visit to hell" or "dead cockatrice"
11:14 <Announcy> Junethack: New user AntiGulp registered! https://junethack.net/user/AntiGulp
11:15 <LarienTelrunya> AntiGulp: do you want to be part of the nymphets? *bundlebundlebundle* ♥
11:15 <AntiGulp> How many clans are there even?
11:15 <Beholder> AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-28 08:46 EDT: Tangles pushed some fixed for curses
11:15 <PavelB> AntiGulp: Nooo they're too powerful already
11:15 <PavelB> AntiGulp: https://junethack.net/clans
11:16 <LarienTelrunya> PavelB: shh! the clan that is too powerful is called ootc :P
11:16 <[Demo]> yeah join srn
11:16 <stennowork> AntiGulp, you have to join improved tin openers!
11:16 <PavelB> LarienTelrunya: ootc doesn't even exist yet
11:16 <PavelB> Also ^^
11:16 -!- stennowork is now known as stenno\ito
11:16 <AntiGulp> IvoryTower members: Bhaak and not_bhaak. I’m cracking up
11:16 <[Demo]> we have slime molds
11:16 <aosdict> I second Improved Tin Openers
11:17 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as AmyBSOD\srn
11:17 <kritixilithos> brb making clan called "the caprines" to defeat tin openers
11:17 <aosdict> augh there's an archon in vlad's
11:18 <PavelB> Thanks AntiGulp 
11:18 <AntiGulp> wooooo
11:19 <AmyBSOD\srn> AntiGulp: man, srn could have used your playing skill so we can compete with the others...
11:19 <kritixilithos> !tell rikersan why are there two of you in jnh
11:19 <Beholder> Will do, kritixilithos!
11:19 -!- PavelB is now known as Pavel\ito
11:19 <AntiGulp> I have 2 lifetime ascensions lol, and my fastest is 27k turns. I’m meh
11:20 <[Demo]> but u can presumably play splicehack
11:20 <AntiGulp> this is true
11:20 <Pavel\ito> Don't worry, I have 0 lifetime quest completions.
11:20 <aosdict> ok so Improved Tin Openers definitely has a lock on the 3.6.1 game
11:20 <Pavel\ito> I'm hoping to contribute some unique deaths though!
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11:22 <Tangles> lol
11:23 <K2> :)
11:23 <Pavel\ito> I feel like we need a flag for the Improved Tin Openers
11:23 <aosdict> time to face 3.6.1 Vlad
11:23 <Announcy> Junethack: New user cxxr registered! https://junethack.net/user/cxxr
11:23 <[Demo]> i wonder if ill even play 3.6.x based things this june
11:24 <AntiGulp\ito> K2 I’ll pull in the curses updates. Crossing my fingers for a mostly crash-free tournament.
11:24 <K2> sounds good
11:25 <K2> but no worries if there are, i'll be around to recover
11:25 <K2> oh FYI all - I have drill june 1st thru 3rd, so I'll be offline most of that time
11:25 <K2> drill = military training with national guard for those not in the know
11:26 <bhaak> "crash-free", sounds boring
11:26 <kritixilithos> btw nice team you got there bhaak
11:26 <AmyBSOD\srn> bhaak: add trophies for getting a panic, segfault or game freeze :D
11:27 <[Demo]> are you drilling or getting drilled?
11:27 <bhaak> AmyBSOD\srn: devnull had that, but we can't as it isn't logged in the xlogfile
11:28 <bhaak> that's the existential crisis of junethack. what is not in the xlogfile, doesn't exist
11:28 <K2> parse livelogs ;)
11:28 <stenno\ito> i doubt that a crash is a livelog event?
11:28 <K2> it isnt
11:29 <K2> but things exist in the livelog that dont necessarily exist in the xlogfile
11:29 <K2> but, not all servers use livelogging
11:29 <K2> so moot point
11:30 <[Demo]> so it turns out that setting a newly generated potnetial stack of flintstones quantity to 1 isnt how you get only 1 of them
11:30 <stenno\ito> i guess you could write an external script that appends a crash message to livelog after the process died
11:30 <K2> there's always the paniclog
11:31 <aosdict> kritixilithos: IvoryTower contains the whole universe - the set of all things that are bhaak combined with the set of all things that are not bhaak
11:31 <bhaak> kritixilithos: it's the best team!  maybe not regarding play ...
11:31 <K2> i make that publically accessible for various variants to benefit the variant authors
11:32 <K2> and 3.6.1 official improved the paniclog for public server use
11:32 <elenmirie> what's wrong with Beholder?  He's not announcing xnethack
11:32 <Announcy> Junethack: New user QQQQQ registered! https://junethack.net/user/QQQQQ
11:32 <aosdict> yes >:(
11:33 <K2> huh
11:33 <aosdict> quintuple quantum mechanics
11:33 <rld> <@Winsalot> So, who is gonna invite me to their junethack clan? :)
11:33 <elenmirie> or five cats sitting next to each other
11:33 <[Demo]> join slexy robber nymphettes!
11:33 <kritixilithos> aosdict: haha, but if the ivory tower ∊ universe, then it also contains teh entire universe? it must contain itself :O
11:33 <AmyBSOD\srn> Winsalot: join us!!! you should already have an invitation :)
11:33 <K2> yes it is
11:34 <aosdict> I'm about to kill Vlad, assuming he doesn't escape. So we'll see in a minite.
11:34 <aosdict> minute
11:34 <K2> weird... perhaps when we updated the bot while ongoing games were active, its not picking those up
11:34 <Pavel\ito> @Winsalot you should join the Improved Tin Openers
11:34 <K2> maybe save and reload
11:34 <elenmirie> hm, well I just killed Rodney and then got the amulet
11:34 <elenmirie> ok
11:35 <kritixilithos> for the unique deaths trophy, would "killed by a X named AB" and "killed by a X named ABC" coutn as different
11:35 <kritixilithos> ?
11:35 <stenno\ito> kritixilithos, cantor would like to have a word with you
11:35 <aosdict> ok killed him
11:35 <AmyBSOD\srn> Winsalot: the slexy robber nymphets are the best clan, we have our own channel and there's lots of really chilly players around! you want to be part of us too! ♥
11:35 <stenno\ito> kritixilithos, no
11:35 <K2> you didnt save/reload did you
11:35 <K2> aosdict
11:35 <aosdict> no
11:35 <Pavel\ito> We have our own channel too!
11:35 <Pavel\ito> We even have a flag! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hYNNKTmY/image.png
11:36 * AmyBSOD\srn feels obligated to create a flag for the nymphets :P
11:36 <nooodle> is there a central listing of which players are on which clans
11:36 <kritixilithos> it is on the website
11:36 <Pavel\ito> AmyBSOD\srn: Please do, then we can ask bhaak to allow uploading clan logos
11:36 <AmyBSOD\srn> :)
11:36 <elenmirie> ooh, yes!
11:37 <aosdict> is there some rule that forces the candles in vlad's tower to be not the same type
11:37 <nooodle> i want to be on a clan that only has people who believe the eyes of the overworld shouldn't cure permanent blindness
11:37 <nooodle> aosdict: I know right?? I've never seen 7 of one type
11:37 <AntiGulp\ito> wait that’s a thing???
11:38 <elenmirie> I have seen 7 in one stack, but usually it's less
11:38 <aosdict> well I know the amount is 4d2
11:38 <AmyBSOD\srn> nooodle: if you're still looking for a clan, know that the nymphets would be pleased to let you join :)
11:39 <aosdict> elenmirie: Actually, yes! The tower.des specifies one stack of wax and one stack of tallow.
11:39 <stenno\ito> no, nooodle joins ito
11:39 <elenmirie> oh right
11:39 <kritixilithos> AmyBSOD\srn: TIL nymphet is a real word
11:39 <K2> nooodle: the OotO confer astral vision. of course it cures blindness
11:39 <nooodle> whichever clan has the least amount of toxic masculinity, which might be the nymphets
11:39 <aosdict> that's silly, vlad should invest in some better candles
11:39 <K2> *confers
11:39 <elenmirie> this time I got 6 wax and 7 tallow (cursed)
11:40 <nooodle> K2: then i'm not going to be on your clan
11:40 <AmyBSOD\srn> kritixilithos: yes, it's from the Lolita novel
11:40 <K2> ok
11:40 <K2> lemme see if i'll lose any sleep over that
11:40 <K2> ... nope
11:40 <stenno\ito> oh you haven't even registered yet
11:40 <K2> :)
11:40 <elenmirie> nooodle... we may have the most female players :)
11:40 <elenmirie> I'm not sure though
11:40 <AmyBSOD\srn> nooodle: the eyes of the overworld are overpowered in my opinion and should be nerfed (and actually are nerfed in slex), so... join us ♥
11:40 <K2> oh god
11:41 <nooodle> amybsod said the magic words, haha
11:41 <[Demo]> man i love how stupid jnh is its great
11:41 <nooodle> besides i think i might know amy in real life
11:41 <elenmirie> lol
11:41 <stenno\ito> nooodle, are you german?
11:41 <AmyBSOD\srn> nooodle: wtf? that would be quite interesting to find out
11:41 <Announcy> Junethack: New user funcrunch registered! https://junethack.net/user/funcrunch
11:41 <stenno\ito> oh funcrunch
11:41 <stenno\ito> want
11:41 <AmyBSOD\srn> your username on junethack? I can't see a "nooodle" on the list
11:42 <K2> look for hypnotist
11:42 <nooodle> oh, no, nm, but I was at the latest roguelike celebration in SF
11:42 <stenno\ito> oh ok
11:42 <nooodle> on NAO i was "aioli"
11:42 <stenno\ito> where adeon did the realtime speedrun?
11:42 <aosdict> mmm, nooodles and aioli...
11:42 <AmyBSOD\srn> roguelike celebration in san fierro? sorry, I didn't attend that
11:43 <stenno\ito> san francisco i assume :D
11:43 <nooodle> yup san francisco at github headquarters
11:43 <nooodle> and got to meet thomas biskup so there was at least one german
11:44 <stenno\ito> nice
11:44 <Announcy> Junethack: New user winny registered! https://junethack.net/user/winny
11:44 <aosdict> ey winny want to join ITO?
11:45 <stenno\ito> what a slaughterfest
11:46 <[Demo]> its just so silly
11:47 <Announcy> Junethack: New user hypnotist registered! https://junethack.net/user/hypnotist
11:47 <AmyBSOD\srn> nooodle: I sent an invitation to hypnotist :)
11:48 <K2> elenmirie lemme know if beholder still isnt annoucing your game events
11:48 <K2> stepping away for a bit
11:48 <elenmirie> ok K2
11:48 <K2> thanks
11:49 <stenno\ito> i step away from the IRC to breathe in
11:49 <nooodle> @amybsod thank you :) accepted
11:49 <AmyBSOD\srn> yay! welcome to the team!
11:49 <stenno\ito> why are there 55 people in #hardfought but only 31 people in #Junethack
11:51 <aosdict> ah right need to rejoin that
11:52 <AntiGulp\ito> oops same
11:52 <[Demo]> hmm guess ill add junethack to my ghetto bot and hope it doesnt break
11:52 <AmyBSOD\srn> bhaak: please let us design banners for our clans that will be displayed on the junethack page :) here's the one for SlexyRobberNymphets: https://abload.de/img/slexyrobbernymphetsf3unx.png
11:52 <elenmirie> K2: just killed Rodney again, and no Beholder
11:53 <Pavel\ito> AmyBSOD\srn: What does *bundlebundlebundle!!!* mean?
11:53 <[Demo]> jesus christ thats great
11:53 <Pavel\ito> Yep
11:53 <AmyBSOD\srn> Pavel\ito: hahaha :) it means "I brush your face with my beautiful long hair to get you to do what I want you to do" :D
11:54 <Pavel\ito> I made the ITO one in 5 minutes in GIMP, I'm *super* bad at any form of drawing.
11:55 <AmyBSOD\srn> well I'm not that great at drawing either, but I did make all the slex-specific trophy images with MS Paint (and now also this banner)
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11:56 <stenno\ito> lmao
11:56 <stenno\ito> <[Demo]> hmm guess ill add junethack to my ghetto bot and hope it doesnt break
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11:56 <winny> i gotta hurry up and finish my games from before june
11:56 <[Demo]> its a good banner cause it looks like the trophy images
11:56 <stenno\ito> [Demo], did your ghettobot break
11:56 <[Demo]> no i restarted it
11:56 <stenno\ito> ah fair
11:56 <[Demo]> with <#450687825222828072> added
11:57 <stenno\ito> whats that
11:57 <[Demo]> oh dammit discord broke it
11:57 <[Demo]> oh well
11:57 <K2> elenmirie ok
11:57 <[Demo]> \<#450687825222828072>
11:57 <stenno\ito> #junethack
11:57 <stenno\ito> nope
11:57 <[Demo]> yeah that i tried
11:58 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder
11:58 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org  server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ New server in Sydney, AU - one step closer to world domination :)
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11:59 <K2> !ping
11:59 <Beholder> K2: Pong! 
12:00 <K2> !who
12:00 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] ttc1401 [slex] hypnotist [nh361] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] cxxr [xnh] aosdict [xnh] 
12:00 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] HotSauce [nh361] elenmirie [xnh] 
12:00 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] No current players
12:03 <K2> i reset all three beholders
12:03 <K2> so we'll see if that fixes the Things™
12:04 <[Demo]> if ur in oriental asia is the australia server faster or the europe one?
12:04 <K2> i would think the AU server, but its all in how your connection is routed
12:05 <K2> short answer: dont know
12:05 <stenno\ito> AU is best, i'm pretty sure
12:05 <[Demo]> where do the oriental isps route through?
12:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4172014 points, T:79639, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1527195474.nh361.txt
12:05 <stenno\ito> attie, ^ ?
12:05 <nooodle> second character in a row to ascend who was born blind. :p :p 
12:05 <K2> congrats nooodle!
12:05 <nooodle> thank you.
12:05 <stenno\ito> grats
12:06 <elenmirie> grats nooodle!
12:06 <[Demo]> wow nice
12:06 <nooodle> but failed to keep the blind conduct. But next time I'll knopw
12:06 <[Demo]> your vision clears
12:06 <AmyBSOD\srn> well done nooodle! may you score plenty of ascensions during the tournament too! :)
12:06 <nooodle> <3
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12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] cxxr (Val Hum Fem Law), 1791 points, T:3036, killed by a werewolf
12:16 <Announcy> Junethack: New user 910rd registered! https://junethack.net/user/910rd
12:16 <Announcy> Junethack: New user jedijinnora registered! https://junethack.net/user/jedijinnora
12:17 <AntiGulp\ito> K2: SpliceHack has been updated with changes to curses, additional tips, and a few junenethack-specific engravings. Also cartomancers now start with 60 shuriken so they’re semi-viable.
12:18 <[Demo]> "a - 111 tiny gold pieces" uh oh
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12:21 <K2> ok great
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12:24 <elenmirie> K2: I'm about to kill Rodders again
12:24 <K2> ok watching
12:25 <Announcy> Junethack: New clan SmileMold created! https://junethack.net/clan/SmileMold
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12:28 <K2> this latest update to the bot, nothing was changed in regards to livelogging
12:28 <K2> hmm
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12:31 <elenmirie> anything you want me to try?
12:31 <K2> no its ok
12:31 <K2> xlog reporting appears to work still
12:32 <K2> SpliceHack updated (all servers)
12:32 <elenmirie> am I still being logged?
12:32 <K2> checking
12:33 <K2> yes
12:33 <K2> last entry was about 6 min ago
12:33 <K2> killed the WoY
12:33 <elenmirie> ok, cool
12:34 <Announcy> Junethack: New user btimofeev registered! https://junethack.net/user/btimofeev
12:34 <Announcy> Junethack: New clan demilichens created! https://junethack.net/clan/demilichens
12:34 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Menche registered! https://junethack.net/user/Menche
12:35 <K2> ok i see the error
12:36 <elenmirie> if username==elenmirie then ignore?
12:36 <K2> heh
12:36 <K2> its a change we made so nethack 1.3d xlogfiles could be reported
12:36 <K2> its affected livelogging somehow
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12:38 <aosdict> hah, found a thiefstone workaround for it not working on nonmagic items - you merely need to stick the nonmagic items in a magical container like a boh
12:38 <K2> heh its affected livelogging across the board
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12:41 <aosdict> gotta thank this vlad tower archon for getting Demonbane for me, since it's even more awesome than in vanilla
12:42 <Pavel\ito> aosdict: Are you planning to patch that out or are you keeping it?
12:42 <aosdict> Pavel\ito: the thiefstone thing? no, it's a clever idea, doesn't work on stuff like the Amulet (because they won't go into containers), and bags of holding are rare anyway.
12:43 <Announcy> Junethack: New user cevn registered! https://junethack.net/user/cevn
12:43 <aosdict> I only had the opportunity to do it because I found a random boh in orcus-town
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12:44 <bhaak> AmyBSOD\srn: you know I'm a lazy bastard
12:46 <stenno\ito> bhaak, FR: each /home page has a button "looking for a clan", if the user clicks it, their name will appear on a special "users looking for a clan" page
12:46 <bhaak> stenno\ito: you know I'm a lazy bastard
12:47 <stenno\ito> lol
12:47 <bhaak> that's meta stuff, that needs to be done outside of junethack.  next you want me to set up a forum per clan for communication :-p
12:47 <stenno\ito> hmm fair enough
12:47 <bhaak> where's the spirit of outsourcing as much as possible?
12:47 <[Demo]> heh
12:48 <bhaak> but Amy's banner idea could be done with leveraging gravatars
12:48 <[Demo]> isnt that really old stuff?
12:48 <[Demo]> i havent heard of gravatar in a while
12:49 <dizzylizzy> aosdict: sweet!!
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12:50 <aosdict> sweet what
12:50 <bhaak> [Demo]: it's still working
12:50 <dizzylizzy> aosdict: sweet ITO clan fix
12:51 <dizzylizzy> sorry only just got home from work
12:51 <AmyBSOD\srn> bhaak: doesn't gravatar only accept images up to a certain rather small size?
12:51 <aosdict> AmyBSOD\srn: couple hundred pixels on a side, isn't it? should be enough
12:51 <bhaak> https://de.gravatar.com/site/implement/images/
12:52 <bhaak> "You may request images anywhere from 1px up to 2048px"
12:52 * stenno\ito loads up a single pixel
12:52 <stenno\ito> uploads*
12:52 <bhaak> Gravatar also give some nice defaults, if nothing has been set
12:53 <AmyBSOD\srn> oh, so my 200x300 clan image would fit?
12:53 <bhaak> https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/28dcb69509a65feb969fc70c85744871?d=retro
12:53 <bhaak> sure but where would expect that size to be shown?
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12:54 <AmyBSOD\srn> bhaak: wait, you just made that image for your clan? wow that was quick
12:54 <bhaak> no, gravatar made that for me
12:54 <AmyBSOD\srn> ah
12:55 <bhaak> remember the other inofficial motto of junethack "we don't do what others can do better as a half assed job "
12:56 <[Demo]> junnethack
12:56 <bhaak> [Demo]: Gravatar is owned by Wordpress now, so it's unlikely to go away soon.
12:56 <[Demo]> oh neat
12:56 <K2> \o/
12:57 <K2> elenmirie livelogging is back
12:57 <elenmirie> oh, cool!
12:57 <elenmirie> thanks
12:57 <aosdict> bhaak: looks like a dwarf fortress icon
12:57 <[Demo]> wait if i cant edit options for nh 1 how do i comment in my junethack username?
12:58 <K2> lets see if 1.3d xlogfile events still work
12:58 <bhaak> aosdict: by changing the d parameter, you can get a set of different defaults: identicon,monsterid,wavatar,retro, or robohash
12:58 <bhaak> I think retro fits the junethack theme best
12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:24733
12:59 <K2> whew ok cool
13:00 <[Demo]> what
13:00 <[Demo]> leprechaun
13:00 <bhaak> somebody's playing 1.3d
13:00 <bhaak> poor person
13:00 <K2> thats one of my test accounts
13:00 <[Demo]> its worse than grunt
13:00 <[Demo]> balance wise
13:00 <K2> [Demo] do not mock the original nethack
13:00 <K2> blaspheme!
13:01 <[Demo]> im playing it rn so i will get my just desserts
13:01 <dizzylizzy> vanilla isn't a flavor, it's an admission of defeat
13:01 <K2> so what flavor would grunthack be... raspberry?
13:02 <[Demo]> wishberry
13:02 <Pavel\ito> When'd 13d get added?
13:02 <stenno\ito> few days ago
13:03 <stenno\ito> we had it in 2011-2013 or so?
13:03 <stenno\ito> and now it got revived
13:05 <aosdict> I remember it last year
13:05 <stenno\ito> huh?
13:05 <stenno\ito> sure?
13:06 <[Demo]> why are poisonous monsters that drain strength so strong in shitty roguelikes?
13:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 24776 points, T:716, killed by a gnome lady
13:06 <[Demo]> like rogue
13:06 <[Demo]> and nh 1.3d
13:06 <[Demo]> and zapm
13:06 <Pavel\ito> > Calling zapm shitty
13:06 <stenno\ito> because there's no easy way to regain those drained stats?
13:06 <[Demo]> it just happens so fast
13:07 <[Demo]> and then you;re fucked
13:07 <bhaak> AmyBSOD\srn: the banner would also have to be square
13:08 <AmyBSOD\srn> oh, so 300x300
13:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Demo (Nin Mal), 692 points, T:1130, shopkeeper
13:09 <stenno\ito> tsk tsk
13:12 <AmyBSOD\srn> wow I correctly remembered my old gravatar login and password :D
13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Demo (Hea Mal), 196 points, T:288, death ray
13:13 <dizzylizzy> yay elenmirie 
13:13 <AmyBSOD\srn> "This gravatar may contain rude gestures, provocatively dressed individuals, the lesser swear words, or mild violence." I wonder if that's true... after all, SLEX has been proving in the past that even ascii can be not safe for work :P
13:13 <K2> woot elenmirie!
13:13 <elenmirie> \o/
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13:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 21744 points, T:572, killed by a crossbow bolt
13:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Demo (Fig Mal), 201 points, T:316, falling object
13:16 <AmyBSOD\srn> bhaak: https://de.gravatar.com/userimage/3952473/230cea02d4c16962165e51674770b095.png?size=300 - so, is there a chance for you to display that on the slexy robber nymphets clan page? *bundlebundlebundle* ♥
13:18 <[Demo]> are the objects permimic nymphs or nymph loot?
13:19 <AmyBSOD\srn> the ! is a potion of object detection, the ( is a mirror, the [ is a pair of sexy heels and the " is the Amulet of Yendor :D
13:19 <[Demo]> are the trees dryads in disguise?
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 15529 points, T:304, killed by a gnome lord
13:20 <AmyBSOD\srn> heh, they're actually a reference to unnethack's Aphrodite level, which has trees IIRC
13:20 <stenno\ito> fucking aphrodite
13:20 <stenno\ito> actually
13:20 <stenno\ito> she has awesome loot
13:20 <stenno\ito> i think guaranteed 300zm rings
13:20 <[Demo]> is the @ rodney or is it the gang scholar quest leader?
13:20 <stenno\ito> grats elenmirie 
13:20 <AmyBSOD\srn> @ could be Rodney
13:22 <Announcy> Junethack: New user hothraxxa registered! https://junethack.net/user/hothraxxa
13:22 <Pavel\ito> What does the BSOD in AmyBSOD\srn stand for?
13:22 <AmyBSOD\srn> blue screen of death, of course (my PC occasionally gives BSODs)
13:22 <Pavel\ito> hothraxxa: Join the Improved Tin Openers! ^⍵^
13:23 <dizzylizzy> i think it's funny I can't read spellbooks in 1.3d
13:24 <[Demo]> shift + x
13:24 <AmyBSOD\srn> hothraxxa: join the slexy robber nymphets! ♥
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13:28 <dizzylizzy> [Demo]: i luv u
13:29 <aosdict> I thought hothraxxa was promised to teamsplat
13:30 <Pavel\ito> That's K2's clan, right?
13:31 <Pavel\ito> lol It's got all the #hardfought ops
13:31 <K2> its not my clan
13:31 <K2> its just the clan i'm a member of
13:32 <AmyBSOD\srn> teamsplat is the hardfought clan, you will only gain membership if you always use purple rain on the astral plane :D
13:35 <[Demo]> you arent cool unless u name ur purple rain friends squirmy and then start naming after matrix sequels
13:36 <Pavel\ito> I'll get to the astral plane some day
13:36 <K2> I name all of my purple worms 'Carl'
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13:36 <[Demo]> what kind of carl?
13:37 <K2> just Carl
13:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] dizzylizzy (Val Fem), 2968 points, T:2682, owlbear
13:37 <FIQ> K2: You should add us.hardfought.org
13:38 <FIQ> as alias for www.hardfought.org
13:38 <K2> not a bad idea
13:38 <aosdict> should I poly myself into a gold golem to get free levelport back to my stash?
13:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3009
13:39 <FIQ> or the other way around
13:39 <FIQ> That is up to you, aosdict 
13:39 <[Demo]> nobody else knows how portkey stones work
13:40 <FIQ> Hmm
13:40 <FIQ> Yeah they're basically portkeys
13:41 <Announcy> Junethack: New user FIQ registered! https://junethack.net/user/FIQ
13:41 <K2> us.hardfought.org created
13:41 <FIQ> I got highlighted in 5 channels
13:41 <FIQ> K2: cool
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3453 points, T:3361, poisoned by a quasit
13:42 <Announcy> Junethack: New user graydot registered! https://junethack.net/user/graydot
13:42 <Pavel\ito> So what clan is FIQ joining?
13:42 <[Demo]> hes with teamsplat
13:43 <AmyBSOD\srn> huh? I thought FIQ was with the cockatrices
13:43 <aosdict> I am overprepared for this asc run. Time to make an end of it.
13:43 <[Demo]> oh he mught be
13:43 <[Demo]> that could b it
13:43 <[Demo]> i know hes in one of the two good ones
13:44 <Pavel\ito> Can you start a run before jnh and only finish it after it starts to have it count?
13:45 <FIQ> AmyBSOD\srn: The clan does not exist yet
13:45 <FIQ> But yes, I am
13:45 <aosdict> Pavel\ito: does not count
13:45 <aosdict> otherwise you could park all the ascensions you wanted
13:45 <FIQ> [Demo]: I actually asked for a splat invite last year
13:45 <FIQ> I was rejected
13:46 <[Demo]> wait they have standards?
13:46 <FIQ> I took it in stride and crushed everyone
13:46 <FIQ> or not really, but my one 30s-from-deadline ascension did make the diffference between splat being #1 and #2 :P
13:46 <[Demo]> nice
13:46 <[Demo]> way to overthrow teamsplat
13:46 <Pavel\ito> I thought the strat with clans was to just have as many people as you can get
13:46 <AmyBSOD\srn> FIQ: my clan wouldn't reject you ♥
13:46 <FIQ> AmyBSOD\srn: I have former clanmates in ootc
13:47 <AmyBSOD\srn> oh, I see
13:47 <FIQ> And we already have an established community
13:47 <FIQ> I want to join them again
13:47 <FIQ> just like last year's junnethack and devnull
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8189
13:49 <FIQ> [Demo]: I think splat is a group of very old NetHack friends
13:49 <FIQ> So it's understandable
13:49 <[Demo]> ok yeah
13:53 <K2> jonadab are you going solo this year or did you want to play with teamsplat again?
13:54 <AmyBSOD\srn> jonadab should join the nymphets to level the battlefield and mix things up :) after all, without him slex wouldn't be what it is now
13:59 <K2> hi i'm AmyBSOD, you should join my clan because <I noticed you registered | your handle starts with a letter, you should join my team! | reasons>
14:00 <K2> :D
14:00 <AmyBSOD\srn> hey, recruiting members is part of the tournament :D
14:01 <AmyBSOD\srn> K2: you should join my clan because I love you! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ *kiss* *swarming swing bundle*
14:01 <K2> dunno, guess I'm just used to the reasons being a bit more granular
14:02 <aosdict> I feel like joining srn should require reading its mission statement first
14:03 <Pavel\ito> What is it's mission statement?
14:03 <jonadab> K2: It remains to be seen whether I will be actually participating this year.  Have something else I have to finish up first, not sure I will have time.
14:03 <jonadab> Definitely not making decisions about clan affiliation yet.
14:04 <K2> gotcha
14:04 <jonadab> May be late to the party, if I can participate at all.
14:04 <K2> yeah understandable
14:04 <AmyBSOD\srn> jonadab: if you are going to participate, know that the nymphets' doors are always open for you :)
14:05 <Pavel\ito> I have a feeling that the mission statement is literally just "bundlebundlebundle"
14:06 <AmyBSOD\srn> Pavel\ito: thanks, that is the official mission statement now :D
14:07 <Pavel\ito> I still don't get what that means tho
14:07 <K2> to preserve your sanity: dont go there
14:09 <Pavel\ito> ,_,
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3032 points, T:3795, killed by a horse
14:11 <Pavel\ito> Hmm, junethack lists 343 as 3.4.3-nao, but doesn't mention our 361 is 3.6.1-hdf
14:14 <rld> <@Winsalot> so what do I have to do as a part of a clan in junethack? Just play normally?
14:15 <AmyBSOD\srn> Winsalot: more or less, yeah, but the more ascensions, trophies, unique deaths etc. you get, the better it will be for our clan score :)
14:15 <Pavel\ito> Ascend with different race/role combinations
14:15 <Pavel\ito> Die in odd ways
14:16 <nooodle> most unique deaths is really fun
14:16 <nooodle> there are just so many weird ways to die
14:19 <Pavel\ito> Is it possible to die of trickery on a public server?
14:19 <dtype> you can try
14:20 <dtype> Pavel\ito: nao had a trickery death in 2009
14:20 <Announcy> Junethack: New clan orderofthecockatrice created! https://junethack.net/clan/orderofthecockatrice
14:21 <Pavel\ito> oof
14:21 <AmyBSOD\srn> uh-oh, the cockatrices are attacking
14:22 <Pavel\ito> Do the individual gods count as unique deaths when they smite you?
14:23 <AmyBSOD\srn> probably not
14:23 <AmyBSOD\srn> also, the individual monsters in slex don't count as unique deaths either, it will always count as "killed by a monster" (but individual monsters in other variants probably still count as unique deaths)
14:23 <Pavel\ito> Why's that?
14:24 <AmyBSOD\srn> slex has 18k monster species, it would make unique deaths really silly if every species could give a unique death
14:25 <Pavel\ito> woah
14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10088
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14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 37671 points, T:2062, killed by a soldier ant
14:34 <Menche> K2, see my reply re: hterm tiles https://old.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/8mofcn/registration_to_the_annual_junethack_tournament/dzpxr8t/
14:37 <K2> replied, thanks Menche
14:39 <Announcy> Junethack: New user jhane registered! https://junethack.net/user/jhane
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14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a jackal, on T:4781
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5392
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15:18 <Announcy> Junethack: New user bzizizi registered! https://junethack.net/user/bzizizi
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15:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:14280
15:23 <rld> <@Koumakan> How rare would you say it is to find "a runed broadsoard named orcrist" in the starting room
15:32 <nooodle> You kill Poes! :O :O
15:33 <nooodle> Koumakan, iono, kinda rare? 1 in 0000 maybe?
15:33 <nooodle> 50,000 *
15:33 <rld> <@Koumakan> well as an orc, thats fun
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15:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a potion of unholy water on an altar, on T:8428
15:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] k2 (Tou Mal), 50 points, T:244, hobgoblin
15:35 <winny> aosdict: u have a clan yet?
15:37 <nooodle> Raisse, thank you for making sure my game had firebrand and snickersnee. :D :p
15:37 <Announcy> Junethack: New user vevais registered! https://junethack.net/user/vevais
15:40 <winny> ew
15:40 <winny> nethack4.org uses password auth for ssh
15:40 <Pinkbeast> So?
15:40 <winny> does anybody actually use nethack4.org
15:41 <winny> testing my simple dgamelaunch client and noticed it's the only onethat requires ssh auth, debating wether i will add support for that or not
15:42 <winny> it looks slightly less than trivial to support https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12202587/automatically-enter-ssh-password-with-script
15:44 <Grasshopper> nooodle, I ascended with Poes a little while ago
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15:44 <Grasshopper> so she is a veteran
15:45 <Grasshopper> !who
15:45 <Beholder> Grasshopper: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
15:45 <Beholder> Grasshopper: [hdf-eu] No current players
15:45 <Beholder> Grasshopper: [hdf-au] No current players
15:46 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Koumakan registered! https://junethack.net/user/Koumakan
15:48 <nooodle> I unfortunately killed poes before i realized who it was 
15:53 <winny> oh
15:53 <winny> i see it's not dgamelaunch anyway
15:54 <Pinkbeast> Coo, it's not! Someone liked to reinvent the wheel
15:54 <K2> !who
15:54 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
15:54 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] Grasshopper [nh361] 
15:54 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] No current players
15:54 <AmyBSOD\srn> Pinkbeast: will you play in junethack? if yes, it would be excellent to have you in my clan ♥
15:55 <winny> Pinkbeast: no it's all fine - just didn't realize it wasn't so therefore i shouldn't support it
15:55 <Elronnd\srn> winny: you can use the 'expect' in order to feed the password to ssh
15:56 <winny> yeah, there is also this tool - sshpass
15:56 <Pinkbeast> I don't know, to be frank. At the moment I'm fixing bugs in Crawl. (I wrote them). If I get too fed up with that I might play in junethack
15:56 <winny> but it turns out any effort defeats the purpose, since it doesn't appear to allow automatic logic to your nethack4 user
15:56 <winny> s/logic/login/
15:57 <Pinkbeast> But if I fix my bugs quickly I'll probably carry on and write some more bugs.
15:57 <Elronnd\srn> otoh, nh4.org isn't dgl, so you'd have to rewrite anything
15:57 <Elronnd\srn> but french users might thank you for supporting a server with such low ping
15:57 <winny> i don't think i can support it
15:58 <winny> well, not reliably
15:58 <Elronnd\srn> yeah, nethack4 kinda wants to take over your terminal and do everything itself instead of trusting you.  You *can* support it, it's just hard and you'll end up basically writing an entire terminal library
15:58 <winny> maybe i can just write the username\npassword\n to stdin
15:58 <Elronnd\srn> nope
15:59 <Menche> does it support environment variables like dgl does?
16:00 <winny> not sure, don't see anything about that
16:00 <Elronnd\srn> doesn't matter if it does or not, the entire client still wants a terminal and will probably fuck everything up if it doesn't have one
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16:03 <winny> i'm giving it a terminal
16:03 <winny> so i don't think that'll be a problem
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16:12 <winny> still looks a wee bit tedious lol
16:15 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Wolfechu registered! https://junethack.net/user/Wolfechu
16:20 <K2> !who
16:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
16:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] HotSauce [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 
16:20 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] No current players
16:22 <stenno\ito> i guess i will play most variants blind
16:23 <[Demo]> when in doubt, play it like vanilla
16:23 <stenno\ito> yeah i am kinda good in variant play in general
16:23 <K2> !who
16:23 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
16:23 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] HotSauce [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 
16:23 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] No current players
16:23 <stenno\ito> and i am somewhat up to date regarding some of them
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16:23 <K2> \o/
16:23 <K2> works!
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16:24 <stenno\ito> but playing a variant is much different
16:27 <Pavel\ito> I think we have 3.6.1 + variant covered pretty well
16:28 <Pavel\ito> Given we have aosdict for xnh and AntiGulp for splicehack
16:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:29687
16:32 <stenno\ito> i am not bothered
16:32 <[Demo]> i know so little about un
16:33 <[Demo]> for how much i should know
16:33 <K2> !who
16:33 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
16:33 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] HotSauce [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 
16:33 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] k2 [nh13d] 
16:33 <Grasshopper> I'm not really there, game dropped out 20 minutes or so ago 
16:33 <stenno\ito> it will be fun to play unnethack and dnethack again
16:34 <stenno\ito> also interested in slicehack a lot
16:34 <stenno\ito> i hope its not too buggy
16:34 <[Demo]> splice and xnh i should be able to play a vdfl the same as vanilla roughly?
16:34 <Announcy> Junethack: New user EricTheEchidna registered! https://junethack.net/user/EricTheEchidna
16:35 <Grasshopper> prickly
16:35 <Grasshopper> wonder if Eric is an Aussie
16:36 <stenno\ito> xnh is more or less vanilla 3.6.1 but without the annoying stuff
16:36 <[Demo]> and with portkeys and weird magic
16:36 <AmyBSOD\srn> splice is 3.6.1 with mystic scarabs :D (shame they got nerfed)
16:36 <K2> the hardfought website now shows number of players connected and playing across all three servers
16:36 <K2> local is immediate, remotes are updated once a minute
16:37 <K2> NEAT
16:37 <[Demo]> yey
16:37 <K2> !who
16:37 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] 
16:37 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] HotSauce [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 
16:37 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] k2 [nh13d] 
16:37 <K2> thats why I've been spamming !who last several minutes heh
16:37 <stenno\ito> K2: can you configure CORS for the api?
16:37 <K2> dont know what that is
16:37 <AmyBSOD\srn> K2: cool, but if I click on the https://www.hardfought.org/plr.php?player=k2 link it gives "page not found" :D
16:38 <K2> i know
16:38 <K2> baby steps
16:38 <K2> wanted listing of all players on all servers working first
16:38 <K2> then focus on the little things
16:38 <AmyBSOD\srn> :)
16:38 <stenno\ito> K2: can you give a link to the list?
16:39 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/nh/index.php
16:39 <stenno\ito> thx
16:39 <K2> links for player names i broken fyi
16:39 <K2> *is
16:40 <stenno\ito> oh i guess there is no api then
16:40 <stenno\ito> all rendered in the backend
16:40 <K2> well
16:40 <K2> its the same code NAO uses
16:41 <AmyBSOD\srn> K2: ah, that's why it looked so familiar :)
16:41 <K2> https://github.com/altorg/nao-server/tree/master/www
16:41 <K2> thats what the hdf scoreboard is based off of
16:41 <K2> i just modified it a bit
16:44 <K2> ok player links work from main webpage but it needs work
16:45 <K2> just a kludge fix for now
16:45 <AmyBSOD\srn> amelie the neutral female human valkyrie was last seen in Sokoban on turn 17023 and with 0 points
16:45 <AmyBSOD\srn> it works :) looking good!
16:45 <K2> thx heh
16:46 <AmyBSOD\srn> wow and the page has links to all sorts of other info about the player in question!
16:46 <stenno\ito> er
16:46 <K2> but you'll notice it's tied in to their 361 profile
16:46 <stenno\ito> with 0 points? :P
16:46 <AmyBSOD\srn> omg the player stats even has fleecy-colored "svg pies"! ♥
16:46 <K2> thats the kludge
16:47 <AmyBSOD\srn> fleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecy :)
16:47 <K2> i dont have an overall bit for that yet
16:48 <K2> ok yard work, bbl
16:48 <stenno\ito> o7
17:03 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Stiv registered! https://junethack.net/user/Stiv
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17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19374
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17:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:22193
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17:42 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Eleven registered! https://junethack.net/user/Eleven
17:42 <dizzylizzy> xnh has silver darts?? yisss
17:43 <Announcy> Junethack: New user puck registered! https://junethack.net/user/puck
17:44 <rld> <@Winsalot> Hm, maybe I should hop over to FIQ's clan. After all his variant is my favorite 😃
17:45 <K2> cut clumpy grass gone from yard
17:45 <K2> mission complete
17:45 <K2> commence operation drink rum
17:45 <AmyBSOD\srn> Winsalot: nooooooou! stay with us!
17:45 <AmyBSOD\srn> the nymphets need FIQhack ascensions!
17:46 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Beholderp registered! https://junethack.net/user/Beholderp
17:47 <rld> <@Winsalot> hm, there must be someone besides me?
17:47 <rld> <@Winsalot> Also, If i play fh, I will probably go with monk, which I heard is really hard
17:47 <K2> my first and only fh ascension was a monk
17:48 <rld> <@Winsalot> it's possible that I won't ascend at all 😃
17:48 <AmyBSOD\srn> not sure if anyone in our clan is good at FH; I certainly am not
17:48 <K2> but the game has changed a fair amount since then
17:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3001
17:48 <stenno\ito> :o
17:48 <K2> woo dizzylizzy
17:48 <stenno\ito> mojo time
17:48 <AmyBSOD\srn> Winsalot: even if you don't ascend, you'd probably score some important trophies, and therefore we need you! :D FIQ's clan will get a FH ascension anyway because, well, FIQ developed it ;)
17:49 <K2> TANI: if your deity grants you mjollnir, at some point in the game Thor will come looking for his lost hammer...
17:49 <K2> YANI dammit
17:49 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Saeniel registered! https://junethack.net/user/Saeniel
17:49 <rld> <@Winsalot> Does FIQ even play his own variant?
17:49 <AmyBSOD\srn> FIQ plans to ascend everything except slex this year...
17:49 <K2> sometimes
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dizzylizzy (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3134
17:50 <K2> rofl
17:50 <K2> too bad you cant dual wield artifacts
17:50 <K2> YANI: same thing for excalibur, except its king arthur
17:50 <rld> <@Winsalot> in some variants you can. Right?
17:50 <K2> grunthack only afaik
17:50 <rld> <@Winsalot> in slex maybe
17:51 <AmyBSOD\srn> dnethack apparently allows you to dual-wield excalibur with orcrist
17:51 <dizzylizzy> this is some bonkers luck I'm having
17:51 <AmyBSOD\srn> slex allows you to dual-wield all artifacts (well, one-handed weapon artifacts :D)
17:52 <rld> <@Winsalot> Yeah, I might also try to ascend dnethack. Though it might be very hard
17:53 <rld> <@Winsalot> Cos I never played it before
17:53 <AmyBSOD\srn> dnethack is rather tricky IMHO, but I did somehow get to the sanctum last year
17:54 <stenno\ito> dnethack is really difficult to ascend on your first tries
17:54 <stenno\ito> at least that was my experience
17:54 <stenno\ito> i doubt that i can ascend it during junethack
17:55 <AmyBSOD\srn> damn it's gotten so late again
17:55 <AmyBSOD\srn> junethack is sleep deprivation time :P
17:55 <K2> this was my first ever serious try at dnethack - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dnethack/dumplog/1503634436.dnh.txt
17:56 <K2> it ended porrly
17:56 <K2> poorly
17:56 <K2> FFS
17:56 <dizzylizzy> You hit it.  It hits!  It hits!  It misses!  It hits!  It hits!--More-- :(
17:56 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: We have silver everything!
17:56 <aosdict> well silver a lot of things
17:57 <stenno\ito> i'd be interested in a silver longsword
17:58 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: Also, because you're Law, I'll point out that Demonbane is always silver.
17:58 <dizzylizzy> ooooh
17:58 <dizzylizzy> that's pretty sexy
17:58 <dizzylizzy> this multitude of material types is hard to wrap my head around
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17:59 <K2> !who
17:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] SkydiveMike [nh361] knavery [nh361] amelie [nh361] dizzylizzy [xnh] 
17:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 
17:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] No current players
18:00 <dizzylizzy> aosdict: 80x24 doesn't seem to work, it keeps moving the map to accomodate
18:00 <dizzylizzy> is that normal?
18:04 <aosdict> in curses mode?
18:04 <aosdict> I think so.
18:05 <stenno\ito> i played my game in 80x25
18:05 <aosdict> because it needs to eat up more space with the box drawing chars
18:05 <aosdict> but the game is still 78x21
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18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1314 points, T:3061, killed by a hill orc
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18:07 <winny> aosdict: was curious if u wanted to be in a clan for junethack, since the tribute tournament was fun with the clan I was in with you and company
18:08 <Announcy> Junethack: New user mighty registered! https://junethack.net/user/mighty
18:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 23 points, T:210, killed by a kobold
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18:09 <dizzylizzy> The banana was secretly a cockatrice corpse!  You turn to stone...
18:10 <Pavel\ito> Wat
18:10 <Pavel\ito> How
18:11 <winny> nice
18:11 <Pavel\ito> Slex?
18:13 <stenno\ito> winny: was that clan lettuce?
18:13 <stenno\ito> hm wait
18:13 <winny> https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/clans/Fellowship%20of%20the%20=.html
18:13 <stenno\ito> for last devnull i made clan pile of poo
18:13 <stenno\ito> ah ok
18:14 <K2> loved that
18:14 <K2> the symbol... rofl
18:14 <winny> AmyBSOD invited me to her clan, but i won't be playing much slex, so i don't think i should join
18:14 <stenno\ito> winny: wanna join clan Improved Tin Openers then? aosdict is in there too
18:14 <Pinkbeast> Eh, she invited me and she knows SLEX isn't my cup of tea
18:15 <winny> Pinkbeast: did you join up?
18:16 <dizzylizzy> slex is a liiiittle much for me
18:16 <winny> hmm stenno\ito i think i'd be interested, yeah
18:16 <Pinkbeast> winny: No; I have no idea if I will even play during junethack.
18:16 <aosdict> winny: weren't you in lettuce previously?
18:16 <dizzylizzy> I'd say it has everything and the kitchen sink, but vanilla nethack has kitchen sinks already
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18:16 <winny> aosdict: i don't think so, for 2017 tribute tournament? maybe i left and joined yours, but it's been awhile and i forgot lol
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:26877
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26879
18:17 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: also Amy has been disparaging other variants as "not a kitchen sink variant" when they walk back even a small change. not everything has to be as irreversible as in slex.
18:17 <winny> tbh i'd be down to join either ImprovedTinOpeners or teamsplat
18:18 <Pinkbeast> Shurely "not an 8000 kinds of shoe variant"
18:18 <Antigulp\ito> I like my kitchen sink nice and clean. Cleanish, anyway.
18:18 <winny> my kitchen sink could use a good bleach soak
18:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 776 points, T:2178, killed by a watchman
18:19 <winny> stenno\ito: hook me up :3
18:19 <stenno\ito> did already
18:19 <winny> oh nm
18:19 <winny> nice clan picture
18:19 <winny> lol
18:19 <winny> Slexy's is fun too
18:23 <Pavel\ito> I wonder if Tariru will participate
18:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] ShittyBird (mighty) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided arch-liches, on T:1345
18:23 <stenno\ito> we will see
18:24 <Pavel\ito> Did he last year?
18:25 <stenno\ito> he was in my clan last year iirc
18:25 <stenno\ito> lets see
18:25 <stenno\ito> either devnull or junethack, can't really remember
18:26 <Pavel\ito> Mm
18:26 <Pavel\ito> Hopefully he's in your clan this jnh :P
18:26 <stenno\ito> must've been devnull
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18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] ShittyBird (mighty) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 36947 points, T:2362, killed by a human mummy
18:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class ;), on T:30881
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18:43 <bug_sniper> !lotg Grasshopper 
18:43 <Beholder> May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, Grasshopper!
18:44 <Grasshopper> "Splat! You hit the Wizard of Yendor with a petrifying egg!"
18:44 <Grasshopper> Go Team Splat!
18:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach2 (Con Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed shield of reflection", on T:42907
18:45 <bug_sniper> !who
18:45 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] k2 [gh] cassiopeiastar [nh361] amelie [nh361] knavery [nh361] ranlhach2 [un] 
18:45 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-eu] Grasshopper [nh361] 
18:45 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-au] No current players
18:46 <K2> woo go team splat!
18:46 <Pavel\ito> So are you teamsplat people going to make a clan logo?
18:46 <K2> perhaps
18:49 <Grasshopper> 'Matty swallows the Wizard of Yendor.  "Burrrrp!"'
18:49 <Grasshopper> Status of Matty (neutral):  Level 38  HP 304(304)  AC 3, tame, eating, fast.
18:50 <Grasshopper> "fast" is relative, of course. Fast for a trapper
18:50 <K2> go Matty
18:53 <dizzylizzy> aosdict: I think a useful word might be "discerning"
18:54 <aosdict> or "aware of and wanting to amend imbalances"
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:31362
18:54 <dizzylizzy> I like that xnethack maintains its relationship to the vanilla upstream, it makes testing features for potential future inclusion possible
18:54 <dizzylizzy> at least that's the feeling I get from it
18:54 <dizzylizzy> still getting used to all these materials
18:55 <Pavel\ito> The fact that xnh keeps up with upstream is the reason I play xnh and not vanilla
18:56 <Pavel\ito> I don't care how cool your mod is, I won't use it if it means being behind vanilla
18:56 <dizzylizzy> or irrevocably 'ahead' of
18:57 <dizzylizzy> it'll be weird ascending a non-vanilla variant
18:57 <aosdict> I guess I should stay away from xnh this junethack then, heh
18:57 <dizzylizzy> :o why!! you'd be ace at it for sure
18:57 <dizzylizzy> (and you're on my team!)
18:57 <aosdict> Actually, my current game of it is quite slow.
18:58 <aosdict> and I am in the process of convincing myself that I don't need to polypile some more, just Get On With It.
18:58 <dizzylizzy> Get On With It, Nerd!  ==  GO WIN
18:59 <aosdict> I don't even know how much I'll be able to play, worst case I get hit with a flood of bug reports
18:59 <dizzylizzy> best case, more like
19:00 <dizzylizzy> bug reports are nice :)
19:01 <aosdict> yeah but then I can't actually play
19:01 <Menche> the NetHack Cross-Variant Summer Beta-Test?
19:02 <K2> nethack is always in beta
19:02 <K2> hell, life in general is a beta test :)
19:04 <aosdict> I already have a backlog of several bug reports... should probably focus on them
19:04 <aosdict> but I just booted up the old NES I have and am playing legend of zelda...
19:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Chaotic Stupid (Luxidream) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 977416 points, T:50959, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-05-28%2019_07_46%2C%20Chaotic%20Stupid-Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt
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19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3936
19:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2236 points, T:4001, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food
19:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] jmcunx (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 262 points, T:1442, killed by a bat
19:18 <Grasshopper> I'm on the Plane of Boredom (water)
19:18 <aosdict> you genocided v?
19:25 <Grasshopper> yeah
19:25 <dizzylizzy> gotta put them vortices in their place
19:25 <Grasshopper> it becomes more of an issue with pets
19:25 <dizzylizzy> on air plane I can see that
19:26 <Grasshopper> energy vortices can be nasty
19:26 <dizzylizzy> pew pew pew
19:26 <Grasshopper> and the fire ones can kill pets quickly on Fire
19:26 <Grasshopper> and also they were just in the way so I geno'd them
19:26 <Grasshopper> I've got a tun of blessed genocide scrolls
19:27 <Grasshopper> well, 5 left I think
19:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] VAMPIRES SUCK ASS!!! (Luxidream) (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 6315 points, T:2322, killed by a leocrotta
19:29 <Grasshopper> of which I've just converted 3 of into *cursed* genocide scrolls
19:30 <[Demo]> aws is dumb
19:32 <[Demo]> why am i getting emails like this when there are no months with over 750 hours? https://i.imgur.com/1YwGk9S.png
19:32 <dizzylizzy> 85% of
19:32 <dizzylizzy> just a warning
19:32 <[Demo]> yes but why warn me of something impossible to happen?
19:32 <dizzylizzy> is that a challenge
19:33 <[Demo]> it actually happened once
19:33 <[Demo]> maybe half a year ago
19:33 <[Demo]> and they sent out an apology email to the a bunch of ppl it affected
19:33 <[Demo]> oh it was january
19:34 <dizzylizzy> what category of AWS would a nethack server be under?
19:35 <[Demo]> EC2 instance im sure they dont offer DGLAAS
19:35 <dizzylizzy> haha
19:38 <dizzylizzy> Grasshopper: that's a crapton of worms
19:38 <dizzylizzy> like, holy quacamole
19:38 <[Demo]> squirmy army!
19:39 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: it's a teamsplat requirement
19:39 <[Demo]> its in the terms of service
19:40 <dizzylizzy> ohh I see!
19:41 <dizzylizzy> see, this is why I was asking about ITO team goals
19:41 <dizzylizzy> seems pretty laissez faire
19:41 <[Demo]> ive already decided the srn goals are to be retarded and have fun
19:42 <[Demo]> and im sure amy has some similar idea to that
19:42 <aosdict> dizzylizzy: You must carry the first tin opener you find with you for the rest of the game. This way, if you die, the person who finds your bones can identify your clan.
19:42 <dizzylizzy> name it "New and Improved!"
19:42 <[Demo]> oh god
19:43 <dizzylizzy> and preferably as corroded as technical limitations permit
19:43 <dizzylizzy> or just rustproof
19:44 <[Demo]> Grasshopper good call on the spinach
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] LoadedDice (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1293 points, T:598, killed by a wand
19:46 <Grasshopper> "The trapper corpse glows iridescently.
19:46 <Grasshopper> "
19:46 <Grasshopper> Matty lives again!
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] jewnethack (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 38108 points, T:3575, killed by a white unicorn
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19:48 <[Demo]> what the hell is all this extra shit ur doing grasshopper?
19:48 <dizzylizzy> worm party
19:49 <[Demo]> doing shots with the worms?
19:49 <Grasshopper> that was Matty
19:50 <[Demo]> shots with the worms and matty
19:50 <[Demo]> oh wait nice kill matty
19:50 <[Demo]> how do u make it to ur high altar and have any will to care enough about hp?
19:51 <[Demo]> see that's what happens when you do all that extra shit
19:51 <Grasshopper> "The door swings shut, and locks!  Matty swallows Death."
19:51 <[Demo]> you could have ascended with your man matty but no
19:52 <Grasshopper> "
19:52 <Grasshopper> Matty vomits violently and drops dead!"
19:52 <Grasshopper> "The purple worm eats a trapper corpse."
19:52 <dizzylizzy> /oUT
19:52 <[Demo]> it was all in one turn
19:52 <aosdict> not anymore...
19:52 <Grasshopper> oh well
19:52 <Grasshopper> until that point, Matty was busy eating
19:52 <[Demo]> do they not get to come if they are busy eating?
19:52 <Grasshopper> maybe I forgot to check that last turn with the steh
19:52 <Grasshopper> steth
19:52 <Grasshopper> they don't come
19:52 <[Demo]> damn
19:53 <[Demo]> thats a big deal to miss out on
19:53 <Grasshopper> yeah sux a lot
19:53 <[Demo]> if i were the pet id just stop eating
19:53 <Grasshopper> happens like when you go through portals too
19:53 <[Demo]> makes sense for portals and stairs
19:53 <[Demo]> but for an immortality with a god?
19:53 <[Demo]> uhhh i think thats an ok time to stop eating
19:53 <Grasshopper> yes, dev team, please look at that issue
19:53 <[Demo]> free matty
19:54 <aosdict> wait, the pet doesn't *ascend* with you if it's busy eating?
19:54 <[Demo]> oh thank god
19:54 <[Demo]> yeah im gonna change that in ndnh now cause thats dumb
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19:55 <Grasshopper> aosdict, that's right
19:56 <Grasshopper> wishless conduct!
19:57 <Grasshopper> ... and so it was written in the Book of Grasshopper
19:58 <aosdict> I still want to add you as a god so the game can literally say that at the beginning
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20:05 <[Demo]> whoever wrote the part of the wiki article that describes difficulty of knights in dnh sounds like they havent played the game
20:07 <Announcy> Junethack: New user Corn_Dog registered! https://junethack.net/user/Corn_Dog
20:14 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/K3YlaIJ.png this looks like it oughta be a mazewalk...
20:15 <Announcy> Junethack: New user conoro registered! https://junethack.net/user/conoro
20:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jmcunx (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5992 points, T:3611, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted panther
20:16 <rld> <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> hey im corn dog
20:16 <winny> !tell winny test
20:16 <Beholder> Will do, winny!
20:16 <rld> <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> magic
20:16 <winny> !tell K2 i just saw the post about the forums being shut down - never used them - but it occurs to me that maybe you could create a subreddit specifically for HF to document some important discussions that fall between blog posts and (ephemeral) irc discussions
20:16 <Beholder> winny: Message from winny at 2018-05-28 20:16 EDT: test
20:16 <Beholder> Will do, winny!
20:24 <Announcy> Junethack: New user cirus registered! https://junethack.net/user/cirus
20:29 <rld> <@rikersan> !tell LarienTelrunya can I still be in slexy robber nymphets if I plan on genociding 'n' almost every game?
20:29 <Beholder> @rikersan: Message from kritixilithos at 2018-05-28 11:19 EDT: why are there two of you in jnh
20:29 <Beholder> Will do, @rikersan!
20:30 <rld> <@rikersan> !tell kritixilithos @kritixilithos I have 'rikerw' and 'rikersan' on hdf, so I can have 2 games going (in addition, one has curses set and the other doesn't). I'm planning on only using rikersan but just in case I'm including both, no reason why not really (not like amy the clan admin cares)
20:30 <Beholder> Will do, @rikersan!
20:30 <[Demo]> riker amy genocided herself last jnh so probably yes
20:30 <rld> <@rikersan> LOL
20:31 <[Demo]> wait no
20:31 <rld> <@rikersan> !tell kritixilithos @kritixilithos also join amy's clan we are cool
20:31 <Beholder> Will do, @rikersan!
20:31 <[Demo]> it was a ninja
20:31 <[Demo]> oh yikes
20:31 <rld> <@rikersan> lol
20:31 <[Demo]> if u genocide n i think we're fiqd
20:31 <rld> <@rikersan> ouch
20:31 <rld> <@rikersan> at 'fiqd'
20:31 <[Demo]> which is where u get genocided by a monster of ur own type
20:32 <[Demo]> cause it got confused somehow
20:32 <rld> <@rikersan> yeah I got that
20:32 <[Demo]> and then amy gets mad about it forever
20:32 <[Demo]> and its still funny
20:32 <rld> <@rikersan> I think f iq doesn't find it amusing either
20:32 <rld> <@rikersan> :p
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 31172 points, T:1498, killed by a hobbit, while praying
20:34 <rld> <@Beholderp> anybody play nethack that want to get a clan goin for the 2018 junethack tournament?!
20:34 <rld> <@rikersan> you don't really need to post in all 3 channels just fyi
20:34 <[Demo]> no
20:34 <rld> <@rikersan> and there's already a bunch made
20:34 <rld> <@Beholderp> Bleeeh
20:34 <rld> <@rikersan> figure out if there's one you want to join, then ask
20:34 <rld> <@Beholderp> K
20:35 <rld> <@Beholderp> Sorry
20:35 <rld> <@rikersan> (except for OOC and teamsplat I'm fairly certain those don't accept new people)
20:35 <[Demo]> join slexy robber nymphettes!
20:35 <rld> <@rikersan> np
20:35 <rld> <@rikersan> I mean
20:35 <[Demo]> beat the elites!
20:35 <rld> <@rikersan> on one hand yes do it
20:35 <rld> <@rikersan> on the other hand why would you
20:35 <[Demo]> down with the establishment
20:35 <rld> <@Beholderp> Lol
20:36 <rld> <@Poorly Cropped Corn Dog> i would rather make my own since i am nowhere near competitive enough to want to join a clan
20:36 <rld> <@rikersan> @Poorly Cropped Corn Dog join slexy robber nymphettes then
20:36 <rld> <@rikersan> it's basically the catchall
20:36 <[Demo]> yeah its casual
20:36 <rld> <@rikersan> since amy accepts all the things
20:36 <[Demo]> its fun if u want to yell and get excited and fun if u want to just chill
20:36 <rld> <@Beholderp> Ight
20:36 <rld> <@Beholderp> Sounds fun
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> anybody know what demon lords/princes were present in 1.3d?
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> i.e. applicable to junethack 1.3d
20:37 <[Demo]> hopefully not yengy :P probably none
20:37 <[Demo]> idk if those were even in hell?
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> nope, there's some
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> at least it's listed
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> (on the wiki page)
20:37 <[Demo]> no
20:37 <rld> <@rikersan> it doesn't list which tho, and the link just links to the general page which has nothing afaict
20:38 <rld> <@rikersan> tfw dipping excalibur in 1.3d makes a long sword +5 automatically
20:38 <rld> <@rikersan> I like this
20:38 <[Demo]> i see none in the source
20:38 <rld> <@rikersan> oh really?
20:38 <rld> <@rikersan> kk
20:39 <rld> <@rikersan> hm, that doesn't mention anything about HARD tho
20:39 <[Demo]> HARD?
20:39 <rld> <@rikersan> the wiki page for 1.3d lists demon princes and lords IFF a compiletime def is set
20:39 <rld> <@rikersan> > if HARD defined at compile time
20:40 <[Demo]> well they arent in monst.c then
20:40 <rld> <@rikersan> which source code tho
20:40 <rld> <@rikersan> there may be a different source code thingy
20:40 <rld> <@rikersan> (that junethack uses)
20:40 <rld> <@rikersan> I'll figure out who's running junethack and ask them later but not tonight
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20539
20:43 <Announcy> Junethack: New user nalzok registered! https://junethack.net/user/nalzok
20:44 <winny> @rikersan - i think the nethack 1.3d sources used on hf are on either k2 or Tangles github
20:44 <[Demo]> yeah id check tangles github
20:45 <K2> winny: its bhaak
20:45 <Beholder> K2: Message from winny at 2018-05-28 20:16 EDT: i just saw the post about the forums being shut down - never used them - but it occurs to me that maybe you could create a subreddit specifically for HF to document some important discussions that fall between blog posts and (ephemeral) irc discussions
20:45 <winny> as stated in the wiki article for NetHack 1.3d, the original sources don't compile
20:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Demo (Arc Mal), 83 points, T:312, homunculus
20:46 <winny> K2: sorry, what's bhaak
20:46 <[Demo]> the maintainer of 1.3d
20:46 <winny> oh :)
20:46 <K2> he maintains the 1.3d version that we have
20:46 <K2> are using
20:46 <K2> looking for link
20:47 <winny> sheit, didn't realize the devnull tribute website was perl powered
20:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Demo (Val Fem), 825 points, T:1051, orc
20:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jmcunx (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1657 points, T:2441, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
20:56 <K2> https://bitbucket.org/bhaak/nethack-1.3d-revived
20:56 <K2> lol couldnt find it at first
20:57 <[Demo]> hey k2 if i run demobot should i do it on nao?
20:57 <K2> i wouldnt run it at all honestly
20:58 <K2> but yeah not here for the tourney, it uses a lot of cpu and i dont know how many ppl will play here at same time
20:58 <K2> i expect more than last year since we've been around for a bit now
20:58 <K2> winny - a hardfought subreddit? heh
20:59 <[Demo]> why not run it on ascrun?
20:59 <K2> i dunno, i dont think that's needed
20:59 <[Demo]> but i dont wanna play vanilla
20:59 <K2> [Demo] if you want to run it on ascrun and kerio doesnt mind, go for it
20:59 <K2> bots are allowed for junethack right? i think it just has to be id'ed as a bot
20:59 <winny> what's demonbot and why does it use so much cpu
21:00 <winny> is that a nethack bot
21:00 <K2> its BotHack
21:00 <winny> does it do a lot of bruteforce searching
21:00 <winny> i kinda want to write a bot
21:00 <[Demo]> its some guys nethack but i run sometimes under the name demobot (or dont anymore)
21:00 <K2> demobot is the name demo gave his bot when it played
21:00 <winny> maybe in racket, but probably too slow
21:00 <K2> i ran it for a bit (hdf-bot)
21:00 <[Demo]> has to be id'd as a bot?
21:00 <K2> fun for awhile but gets old
21:00 <[Demo]> i guess ill ask bhaak
21:01 <K2> https://junethack.net/rules
21:01 <[Demo]> rules say i can do it
21:01 <K2> yup
21:01 <[Demo]> so yeah kerio will be my victim
21:02 <[Demo]> cause its not like anyone will be playing on ascrun anyway
21:02 <K2> no, ascrun still has a loyal following
21:02 <K2> kerio been around for a long time 
21:02 <[Demo]> really?
21:02 <K2> yeah
21:02 <[Demo]> well i dont know them so they dont exist to me
21:03 <Tangles> lmao at that 1.3d README.  The UUCP addresses, the default config for Pyramid 98xe, the plea to keep bug report code fragments as small as possible, due to every hop along the path paying for the transmission.
21:04 <K2> OLD school
21:07 <K2> love that last commit Tangles lol
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21:08 <Tangles> The beholder one? Just calling it like it is.
21:08 <K2> yeah
21:09 <Tangles> bhaak's been making commits to this 1.3d source since 2011
21:12 <Tangles> looks like he copied livelog code from unnethack, so maybe that will "just work" with beholder as it now is.
21:12 <K2> about to find out
21:12 <K2> just updated beholder
21:12 <K2> thx for the fix
21:13 <Tangles> It'll put ### in for race and gender in the livelog messages, as there's a bunch of places I'd have to special-case it otherwise.
21:14 <K2> bastard!
21:14 <K2> the hobgoblin
21:15 <Tangles> I may improve on this if I get time, but honestly I'd rather be racking up clan points for #teamsplat once the month rolls over, unless there's anything critical (or very, very annoying) that needs fixing.
21:16 <K2> its fine for now
21:16 <K2> play and have fun ;)
21:16 <K2> reap what you've sown
21:19 <Tangles> I should document more of the curses options, too. Popup_dialog now seems to work if you're into that.  Perhaps some editing of the wiki is in order.
21:20 <K2> popup_dialog... will have to try that
21:20 <K2> AntiGulp has already merged your curses fixes
21:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Neu) had katana bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4884
21:24 <aosdict> !ping
21:24 <Beholder> aosdict: Pong! 
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:5101
21:29 <K2> well
21:29 <K2> at least i cant break any armor
21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Neu) had long sword bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5659
21:35 <Tangles> lol. K2 the giant she-wolf.   AwooooOOoooOOooo!
21:36 <K2> lol
21:37 * Tangles is reading livelog.c from bhaak's 1.3d distro...
21:37 <Tangles> I think I can add some more stuff to beholder based on this.
21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 historic speed boots", on T:24574
21:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Neu) had silver war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6321
21:39 <K2> hah
21:43 <aosdict> Best rename yourself to Huginn or Muninn.
21:49 <aosdict> oh wait those are his ravens
21:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed greased fixed historic bag of holding named Burdenbane", on T:24917
21:50 <aosdict> geri or freki then
21:50 <K2> lol burdenbane
21:50 <[Demo]> play ndnh, u can fight huginn and muninn or tame them. if u kill them they drop their own respective dagger, thought and memory which can be twoweped together by anyone and have a special int/wis drain attack
21:52 <aosdict> hah, there's a comment in teleport.c where it makes the noteleport checks
21:52 <aosdict>  /* Disable teleportation in stronghold && Vlad's Tower */
21:52 <aosdict> must be quite an old comment
21:52 <[Demo]> stronghold?
21:52 <aosdict> castle
21:53 <[Demo]> ahh
21:55 <K2> You see here a glass pick-axe.
21:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 22090 points, T:487, killed by a magic missile
21:55 <K2> object material fail
21:56 <aosdict> hah, I prevented silly things like that in xnh
21:56 <[Demo]> Oh did you?
21:56 <aosdict> though, come to think of it, I didn't prevent broad picks...
21:56 <[Demo]> yeah
21:56 <[Demo]> sheol is from un, right?
21:58 <K2> yes
21:58 <[Demo]> I've always wanted to play through sheol
21:58 <[Demo]> outside wiz mode
21:58 <Pavel\ito> A glass pickaxe doesn't make less sense than a glass sword, imo
21:59 <[Demo]> glass is sharp
21:59 <[Demo]> you can slice
21:59 <[Demo]> you don't slice with a pick
21:59 <[Demo]> can someone make a splicehack variant called slicehack?
22:02 <Announcy> Junethack: New user pheonixace registered! https://junethack.net/user/pheonixace
22:02 <rld> <@luxidream> it's just the same thing except without piercers
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] k2 (Val Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the eyes of the overworld", on T:7068
22:03 <[Demo]> heh
22:03 <aosdict> no, piercers are renamed to slicers
22:03 <aosdict> rock slicer, iron slicer, etc
22:03 <[Demo]> I found a nethack level I drew many years ago
22:03 <K2> woot
22:03 <[Demo]> it's really dumb and I want nothing to do with it anymore but it made me laugh
22:03 <K2> now i haz teh magic resistance
22:04 <K2> just need to find me some reflection
22:04 <K2> ok bed time, good place to stop
22:04 <K2> gnite all
22:04 <[Demo]> gnite
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22:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11 points, T:63, killed by a bear trap
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22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27149
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22:37 <NewbProgrammer10> Is this server www.hardfought.org or eu.hardfought.org?
22:37 <Menche> both
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22:37 <aosdict> and au.hardfought.org and us.hardfought.org too
22:37 <Menche> all under the same admin
22:37 <NewbProgrammer10> Awesomesauce.
22:37 <Menche> is www.hardfought.org == us.hardfought.org?
22:37 <aosdict> yes
22:38 <aosdict> but there are technically four domains as of several hours ago
22:38 <Menche> hardfought is on three continents
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22:55 <Pavel\ito> Woah, just got a ton of system messages
22:57 <Pavel\ito> What happened? Every channel I'm in got a flood of users disconnecting/reconnecting.
22:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] amelie (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:4756
22:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Zee (krm26) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 35060 points, T:1547, killed by a bolt of cold
23:01 <aosdict> Pavel\ito: check your global notices
23:01 <aosdict> routing changes, apparently
23:01 <Pavel\ito> Oh hmm
23:01 <Pavel\ito> I don't *think* I got disconnected at any point
23:02 <aosdict> nah, just different freenode servers getting disconnected
23:02 <bug_sniper> that's what a netsplit is like
23:02 <aosdict> hooray for distributed systems! *jazz hands*
23:03 <Pavel\ito> I'm to young to understand your outdated communication protocols
23:03 <Pavel\ito> Earlier today I got to learn what Usenet is
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23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 91 points, T:251, killed by a black pudding
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23:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 186 points, T:461, killed by Ms. Manlobbi; the shopkeeper
23:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 82 points, T:438, killed by a goblin, while sleeping