00:07 bwahahaha 00:07 I angered a quest friendly with Stormbringer 00:07 then the grudge patch kicked in and the other quest friendlies ganged up on him because he was hostile 00:08 in vanilla? 00:08 xnh 00:08 i know that they do it in vanilla too now 00:08 maybe it was that and not the grudge patch then 00:09 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 00:09 like in vanilla if you anger a gnome in minetown, all other gnomes get angry too (in LOS?) 00:09 and i am not sure but even the guards might get angry 00:09 nah probably not that 00:09 no, this wasn't the other quest friendlies getting angry 00:10 this was the other quest friendlies *aggroing the guy I angered* 00:10 oh i just got it lol 00:10 i misread that earlier 00:10 my bad 00:10 thought they ganged up on you 00:11 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Arc Ang Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7809 00:13 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Arc Ang Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:8049 00:14 mh 00:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:2327 00:21 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 48773 points, T:7969, killed by a leocrotta 00:27 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Arc Ang Mal Law), 2136 points, T:10199, killed by a garter snake 00:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3735 00:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:03 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 01:14 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:20 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:42 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:01 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 03:13 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:15 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:19 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 03:41 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Arc Ang Mal Law), 1825 points, T:2590, killed by a gnome 03:49 !who 03:49 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] 03:49 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 03:49 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 04:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:26 You see here a figurine of an Olog-hai. 04:26 Too bad I still don't have magic whistle. 04:32 -!- Elronnd_ has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- Elronnd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:07 [hdf-us] [dyn] ORC WIZARD FOR SMASH 5 (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 288104 points, T:50381, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dynahack/dumplog/2018-05-26%2005_07_36%2C%20ORC%20WIZARD%20FOR%20SMASH%205-Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 05:08 congrats again @luxidream 05:08 grats 05:08 warming up for junethack? 05:10 <@luxidream> yeah, haven't played in a long while 05:11 <@luxidream> pretty hyped for the competition this year 05:11 me too 05:12 been working on a server status bit for the hdf webpage 05:12 hardfought.org, have a look 05:14 <@luxidream> nice! 05:14 <@luxidream> it's not like we had serverproblems as far as I can remember though 05:14 <@luxidream> last junethack that is 05:14 nope (knock on wood) 05:15 but its kinda cool to see status at a glance, and # of players online to boot 05:15 right now it just shows # of players on us server only 05:15 need to figure out how to merge players from all 3 servers 05:22 K2: You need to also show graph of how many players are connected :) 05:23 heh 05:29 !who 05:29 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] 05:29 K2: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh361] winsalot [4k] 05:29 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 05:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:45 !who 05:45 K2: [hdf-us] No current players 05:45 K2: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh361] winsalot [4k] 05:45 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 05:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:55 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:59 <@luxidream> wp @Winsalot 06:01 Oh nice, a non-vanilla ascension :) 06:01 <@Winsalot> Thanks 06:02 !who 06:02 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [spl] 06:02 K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] winsalot [4k] 06:02 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 06:03 congrats @Winsalot 06:03 thats the first ever scurrier asc i think 06:03 <@Winsalot> Thanks 06:03 <@Winsalot> First scurrier ever? 06:03 yup 06:03 <@Winsalot> Nice 06:03 i was on track to do it a few weeks ago but i died right before the castle 06:03 <@luxidream> think someone's won ran scu before? 06:04 <@Winsalot> Btw, K2, do you have anything to do with dart multishot stopping to work after my segfault? 06:04 <@Winsalot> Had Master skill in darts and somehow only threw one at a time 06:04 <@luxidream> nah, I'm wrong 06:04 nope 06:04 <@luxidream> congrats on first scurrier! 06:05 <@Winsalot> You genocided 63 types of monsters, starting on turn 2677. 😃 06:05 @Winsalot I wouldnt know how to do that even if i wanted to 06:06 <@Winsalot> Ok. I was barely using them anyway, so Its fine 06:06 <@Winsalot> just weird 06:06 <@luxidream> ask jonadab? 06:06 <@Winsalot> Maybe dual-wielding had something to do with it? 06:09 <@Winsalot> https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/w/winsalot.all.html when will this be updated? 06:10 @Winsalot Good question. There's some problem with it and I suspect I know. 06:10 it updates every 10 min 06:11 ooh 06:11 been awhile... 06:11 It's there. 06:11 It was just updating. 06:11 ah 06:11 i see it on main page 06:13 <@Winsalot> Anyone know if slex's patch that makes gloves enchantment useful for non-weapon combat is already active? 06:15 <@Winsalot> !tell LarienTelrunya isthe patch that makes gloves enchantment useful for non-weapon combat is already active? 06:15 Will do, @Winsalot! 06:17 <@Winsalot> @luxidream btw, how did you find dynahack? 06:17 <[Demo]> winsalot, non weapon combat? 06:18 [Demo]: Martial arts. 06:18 <@Winsalot> Oh, wtf. Last 20 ascensions in dynahack have been by you. I guess you rally like DynaHack 😃 06:18 DynaHack is nice. 06:19 Looks like we need to break Luxidream's streak :) 06:19 Anyone knows what the 'magi' conduct is? 06:20 <[Demo]> yes then glove enchantment will apply to unarmed combat 06:20 <[Demo]> because it is slashem based 06:20 <[Demo]> and inherits that from slashem 06:20 <@Winsalot> Amy told me recently that its planned for the next patch 06:21 <@Winsalot> So I guess it wasnt there 06:22 <[Demo]> she must mean something else 06:22 <[Demo]> how did she phrase it? 06:22 <@Winsalot> I mean some moneters require up to +3 enchanted weapon to reliably hit them 06:23 <@Winsalot> But martial arts use no weapon 06:23 <@Winsalot> So there was no way to overcome this penalty for such roles 06:23 <[Demo]> lord 06:23 <@Winsalot> New patch is supposted to fix it 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 610 points, T:1998, killed by a little dog 06:23 <[Demo]> one sec I'm too tired to type on phone and need a real keyboard 06:24 <[Demo]> ok so basically that already exists 06:24 <[Demo]> martial arts at higher levels grants +x enchantment value 06:25 <[Demo]> it is based on your martial arts skill 06:27 <@Winsalot> Really? Amy didnt sound sure about that :) 06:28 <[Demo]> I don't know how much monk she ever played in vanilla slashem 06:28 <[Demo]> ok so yeah I'm wrong actually ha 06:29 <[Demo]> turns out it isn't martial arts skill based 06:29 <[Demo]> but experience level based and only for monks which really shits on other roles 06:29 <[Demo]> especially when you add a few million 06:30 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 06:31 <@Winsalot> Yeah. And I want to play Psion- whick is also martial arts enthusiast role :) 06:32 <[Demo]> thats some classic slashem shit to do and i dont know how i didnt expect it 06:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:36765 07:40 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:49 -!- mcw_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:50 -!- mcw has joined #hardfought 07:53 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 08:24 -!- tacco| has quit [] 08:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:03 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles_] by ChanServ 09:05 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:40 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:44 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 10:10 any source code expert available? 10:10 think i found a bug regarding untrapping 10:12 erp never mind 10:13 <[Demo]> nothing neat? 10:16 nah its just nethack being a bit silly 10:16 there is a function untrap_prob 10:16 source code comment to the function is 10:16 /* Probability of disabling a trap. Helge Hafting */ 10:17 but the function returns rn2(chance); so that means if the function returns true, you were _not_ able to disable the trap 10:17 i thought it was the other way around, so i got confused 10:18 chance is basically "probability of NOT disabling a trap" 10:22 it's silly the way it works anyway 10:22 if you try to disarm a trap, you should keep trying until 1) success, 2) you set it off accidentally, 3) something else interrupts you. 10:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:19651 10:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19652 10:27 <[Demo]> oh yeah i had to play with that when dealing with fire traps 10:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:39 <[Demo]> vaping kills 10:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20230 10:42 <@Winsalot> Tbh although Fourk advertises as a variant that is open to new ideas and experimentation, it felt pretty tame gameplay-wise (as compared to other 2 variants I have played). 10:42 One of those is slex... what's the other? 10:42 <@Winsalot> FIQhack 10:42 Because I don't think Fourk is trying to be more experimental than slex. 10:43 <@Winsalot> I feel like FIQhack having potions of wonder (and now new sacrifice system) feels more experimental than 4k 10:44 Also, I'd describe Fourk's mission statement as "Experimenting by adding new stuff, while strictly keeping the game well-balanced." 10:44 <@Winsalot> Like yeah, Fourk has fancy maps and couple new races but I quite missed things that would make me say "wow, this is crazy" 10:44 <@Winsalot> Except of demon room ofc 10:45 <@Winsalot> That was crazy 10:45 does anything in fiqhack make you say "wow this is crazy"? 10:45 <@Winsalot> Finding weapons with 2 object properies that make them completely overpowered 10:46 <@Winsalot> like bolts of fire and detonation. That shit was scary af. Literally anti-tank shells 😃 10:46 see I really don't think that anything being completely overpowered is really the goal in fh or 4k 10:47 <@Winsalot> Also, I found monsters quite different compared to Fiqhack 10:47 <@Winsalot> I guess they are more like vanilla, right? 10:48 off the top of my head I can't think of any new monsters in fiqhack, and the only one I can name in fourk is elder dragons 10:48 <[Demo]> being completely op is the goal of dnh 10:48 <@Winsalot> Like they cast lots of annoying spells that curse my inventory or summon nasties. I guess that's just how game looks like without player-monster symetry 10:48 aosdict: Shimmering dragons and the baby is the only new monsters in FIQHack 10:49 @Winsalot considering that one of FIQHack's main goals is symmetry... 10:49 <[Demo]> fiq lost write privs to monst.c 10:49 <@Winsalot> In FIQhack I don't even remember summon-nasties being casted on me even once. It was all just CM spam 😃 10:50 <@Winsalot> FIQ: thoughts on conflict? I feel like the ultimate goal should be its removal, to achieve ultimate symmetry 😃 10:50 xnethack now has what _looks_ like CM spam, what with it printing "Monsters appear from nowhere!" whenever any >=2 monsters are created 10:50 @Winsalot Conflict is an aberration in symmetry 10:50 I do not like it 10:51 <@Winsalot> I also don't. Like the game is unwinnable without it. And I value freedom in how I want to play the game. 10:56 <@Winsalot> Also didn't like the xp table in Fourk. Like after XL10 it becomes pretty much impossible to levelup by killing monsters. 10:57 <@Winsalot> At one point I reached XL30, but it was only because I found lots of wraith corpses and gain level potions. 10:57 <@Winsalot> this kinda removes joy from levelling up idk. 10:58 <[Demo]> untrapping fire traps with potions of water is a slashem thing and not in vanilla, right? 11:03 any ootc folk on irc who need a channel invite? 11:04 tell fiq probably because i think he's an admin now, and i always forget to look at irc :P 11:05 <[Demo]> ootc is going down this june 11:06 in history! 11:06 <[Demo]> :( lol 11:08 !who 11:08 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] sk1j [fh] hypnotist [nh361] 11:08 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 11:08 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 11:08 shpingrlde: I have no access to the channel 11:09 hrrrm 11:10 what if you make a new channel. i did a bunch of stuff last night and i tried to make you an admin, but at some point chanserv de-opped you, but i assumed you'd be able to re-op yourself because i gave you +AaRi i think 11:13 -!- dell00 has joined #hardfought 11:19 k2: i hope you're around, i'm about to start my splicehack game 11:19 yup i'm here 11:20 the LofF kicked my ass six ways to sunday last night 11:20 oh cool, tell me everything! 11:20 stole all my stuff 11:20 details. we need details. 11:20 basically defenseless 11:21 once blindfold was gone, would stun me and beat me repeatedly 11:21 nothing i could do 11:21 wait did you die? 11:21 stole all my weapons and my BoH among other things 11:21 is lofff unique to splicehack? 11:21 yes and yes 11:21 i think so 11:21 holy crap, sorry about that 11:22 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1527042012.splice.txt 11:22 i had free action and some paralysis potions 11:22 i did too 11:22 hm. mine worked 11:22 couldnt land a hit with paralysis 11:22 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:22 even wielded? 11:23 yup 11:23 even wielded 11:23 wow 11:23 how long has splicehack been in dev? 11:23 just unlucky 11:23 shpingrlde its very new 11:23 a month or so 11:23 i assumed it was recent enough that most of its content would be from other variants >.> 11:23 did some source diving, i think sleep and wand of death will affect it 11:24 well maybe not WoD 11:24 see i would never think to use my wand of death on it 11:24 ok... this irks me and i hate it: how do we suppress Unknown command ' '. from the dumplog 11:25 i was afarid she'd start whcking me with the staff. after all he says he made monsters more agressive in using new items 11:25 yeah 11:25 it stole excalibur right off 11:25 yes, firs thing gone was my staff 11:26 so i wielded the unihorn. gone 11:27 i had a buffed up katana and regular long sword also - gone 11:27 i wasnt prepared heh 11:28 come to think of it, a spellcaster might have an easier time 11:28 and scrolls of time would have come in really handy 11:28 i didnt realize what they do until after i died 11:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:29 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of ShittleBittle, the former Initiate, on T:11242 11:29 praise rng, blind monk just found a +4 T-shirt lying around. Can't read it, but i'm sure it says something nice 11:29 i haven't found one, but yeah 11:30 i'd certainly do it differently next time 11:30 did you find the void? 11:31 no 11:31 the LotF lair wasnt too far down from the VotD 11:36 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 11:40 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:47451 11:41 it was the first gehennom level for me 11:41 i put all my artifacts in my bag and dropped it, then took on asmo. a +5 unihorn isn't too bad 11:41 whew 11:41 yeah but what about the others 11:42 you're going to encounter all of them at some point 11:45 @Winsalot Fourk was never intended to be a kitchen-sink variant with all sorts of random things in it. The goal was to test out changes that _might_ possibly belong in vanilla, to see whether they are, in fact, suitable for vanilla, or not. 11:46 Similar in principle to xnethack, except xnethack defines "vanilla" to mean 3.6, whereas Fourk originally defined "vanilla" to be NetHack4, on the assumption that we were never going to hear anything more from the Dev Team after 3.4.3. 11:47 Which proved to be an invalid assumption, granted. 11:48 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +2 Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:11387 11:49 Nonetheless, the types of changes Fourk makes are carefully considered changes that I felt might be needed or wanted even in a conservative variant. (Note, however, that I said "might". So it's a little experimental -- more experimental than the really conservative variants.) 11:53 k2: antigulp said it had to do with them chatting while i had an artifact in inventory, so asmo should be the only one 11:54 ok 11:54 hope so 11:54 i'm invisible so baalzebub won't try to chat me up 11:54 we'll find out 11:55 demogorgon worries me, especially since it will be a surprise visit 11:56 its not chatty though 11:56 <@Winsalot> jonadab: so in the end would you agree that in the scale of crazyness (where 1=vanilla, 10=slex) fh would be higher than 4k? 11:57 nethack craziness scale 11:58 i like that 11:58 <@Winsalot> I wonder if dnhslex would be over 10 in this scale 11:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:00 bad clone called Experiment 87: jabberwock / zruty 12:00 <[Demo]> dnhslex isnt that crazy 12:00 i'll just keep vorpy handy 12:01 <[Demo]> its literally just dnh with higher carrying cap and a shit ton of amy monsters 12:02 <@luxidream> unslexhack when 12:08 bah. experiment 87 didn't inherit enough jabberwock 12:11 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed historic greased magic marker named anaximander", on T:47776 12:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6826 12:19 * raisse is in mines end, carrying a luckstone (in fact I've just dropped it) 12:20 and picked it back up without getting a "found the luckstone" message 12:20 obviously the game remembers that you've had it before 12:20 I'll put something in that slot 12:20 no, that doesn't make a difference 12:21 <[Demo]> how boring is sickness resistance? 12:22 now I'm getting killed by this vampire bat before I can pick up the real mines luckstone 12:22 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 492827 points, T:47908, killed by a mind flayer telepath 12:22 wow 12:22 ugh 12:22 never saw it coming 12:23 went downstairs, checked with telepathy, saw nothing 12:23 *whew* levelported out 12:23 i could have avoided this. i was waiting until i saw one before genoing h 12:24 then it confused me and i didn't realize that so xapped teleport at it, but of course not really 12:24 !lastgame hothraxxa 12:24 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/splicehack/dumplog/1526593972.splice.txt 12:25 <[Demo]> can i get suggestions for what special things crystals used as spearpoints for spears should do? https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/master/changelog.txt#L105 12:25 oh right, the unihorn failed me twice 12:27 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of Moo, the former Adept, on T:11989 12:27 no, only once upon review 12:28 Genocided species: worm that walkses 12:28 which aren't working as intended 12:29 <[Demo]> i think i might patch those out of ndnh 12:29 what is Gungnir? 12:29 <[Demo]> or finish the job 12:30 raisse: a dwarvish spear, minor artifact, delivers shock damage 12:30 i found it useful 12:30 demo: you would kill off oogie boogie? for shame 12:31 does an earmuff protect against deafness when you wear it while playing a horn or a drum? 12:31 also, for the crystal spearpoints: they should make me feel in tune with the universe 12:31 <[Demo]> oogie boogie is what its gonna say when a caveman tries to break its mental vow to illiteracy 12:31 <[Demo]> well the idea is each one does something different and neat 12:31 -!- dell00 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31 raisse: i beleive so, although i never tried. there are sonic damamge mosters in splicehack 12:31 <[Demo]> i really wish i could make them supplement reading more than they are currently planned to 12:32 also, i swear i can type on a good day 12:32 I know what you mean anyway 12:33 next time i won't wait to geno h 12:33 that is a seriously nasty monster 12:35 <[Demo]> oh neat, dnh also has the worm that walkses issue 12:37 hm. something is messed up here. 12:37 you need a hardcoded exception for that because you can't get the pluralising routine to produce "worms that walk" 12:40 <[Demo]> why the hell did chris add all these fluorites 12:40 <[Demo]> and what am i supposed to make them do? 12:41 !tell antigulp the wiki entry for mind flayer telepath shows it as purple d but of course it should be purple h 12:41 Will do, hothraxxa! 12:42 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class 'Z', on T:12348 12:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:10573 12:59 <@luxidream> does life saving still work if you're vampire race 13:07 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:08 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:13 <[Demo]> oh cool, i created an infinite gem farming exploit 13:16 everyone needs more gems 13:18 <[Demo]> actually wait dnh already has that 13:19 <[Demo]> oh cool chris fixed that, nevermind 13:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:31 <[Demo]> cooler and epicer bug - cancelling what you want to attach to a stack of spears makes the stack decrement by 1 and destroys a spear 13:32 Beholder: sup! 13:32 LarienTelrunya: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-05-26 06:15 EDT: isthe patch that makes gloves enchantment useful for non-weapon combat is already active? 13:33 !tell Winsalot unfortunately the gloves enchantment is a 2.23 feature, i.e. probably won't be implemented before junethack ends because that version breaks saves 13:33 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 13:33 <[Demo]> why does adding new stuff take so long? 13:33 <@Winsalot> ಠ╭╮ಠ 13:33 @Winsalot: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-26 13:33 EDT: unfortunately the gloves enchantment is a 2.23 feature, i.e. probably won't be implemented before junethack ends because that version breaks saves 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:51127 13:48 -!- dell00 has joined #hardfought 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] cxxr (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2031 14:10 shpingrlde: I think splicehack dates back to around February development-wise, but it was announced a month or so ago. 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] cxxr (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 2758 points, T:2165, killed by Ms. Possogroenoe, the shopkeeper 14:13 oh no, possogroenoe 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] TLar (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 910 points, T:1780, killed by a giant bat 14:32 <[Demo]> "caveman overhaul" 14:32 <[Demo]> yeah right 14:33 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ';', on T:15518 14:38 [Demo]: would you use the sling with a dnethack caveman, or do you consider it a trashy weapon that you'll ditch very early? 14:41 <[Demo]> dnethack buffs it 14:41 <[Demo]> i don't know 14:42 <[Demo]> I'm really confused what the hell im doing 14:42 <[Demo]> might replace caveman staring inventory 14:42 will ndnh cavemen get a spear? it is a neolithic weapon after all ;) 14:42 <[Demo]> yes 14:42 or maybe even a stack of spears/javelins for throwing 14:42 <[Demo]> will probably replace club 14:42 <[Demo]> no a stack would be too strong so early 14:42 LarienTelrunya: It would be nice if I could give cavemen some stone weapons to start off. 14:42 <[Demo]> the idea is they gotta go out and hunt down more spears and cool soft gemstones to knap into spearheads 14:43 aosdict: well I guess you can, thanks to your materials patch ;) 14:43 <[Demo]> and then have epic damage with their artifact level dmg spears with certain spearheads 14:43 <[Demo]> idk some of the spearheads make your spear nearly artifact level 14:44 <[Demo]> a stack of +7 dilithium crystal point spears, especially with caveman spear multishot would be nearly firearm tier 14:47 what was dilithium crystal supposed to do 14:47 they never break when fired in dnh, right? 14:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Fem Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:16387 14:51 <[Demo]> dilitium crystal point spears do double damage 14:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:14522 15:00 -!- dell00 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 15:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- Guest8009 has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 15:03 If I was blind, how did I know the statue was of a priestess named hothraxxa...? 15:04 my radiance 15:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21985 15:04 nice, perseus had all the goods 15:05 aosdict: You know how engravings and such show up as "? Can you make it so it doesn't happen when you're blind? You can see the " but stepping on it doesn't let you read it. 15:06 You want engravings not to render when you're blind...? 15:06 Yeah. You're blind, so you shouldn't be able to detect them, right? 15:07 I don't think I can make the display code do that without major refactors, no. 15:07 <[Demo]> how rarely should a spear with a violet fluroite spearhead pacify what u hit with it? 15:07 Aww. Doesn't really matter I suppose. 15:08 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4694 15:09 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has joined #hardfought 15:24 -!- Elronnd_ is now known as Elronnd 15:32 damn the lag is bad today, I'm gonna play again tomorrow 15:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:33 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:44 -!- Guest8009 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:48 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:52 <@kritixilithos> can't you feel engravings? 15:52 <@kritixilithos> (that is, when they are not written on dust) 15:53 arguably you might not be able to feel graffiti, but that is getting way too specific and realistic for my tastess 15:53 tastes 15:55 It'd be nice if if it was a quick fix, but it doesn't seem to be. 15:56 <[Demo]> u can always taste the graffiti if u cant see it 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "the blessed greased fixed PLaTiNUM YenDorIAN eXPResS cARD", on T:56017 16:00 one of the most annoying things about being blind is how little auto-searching helps you. Probably like 30% of my moves are pressing the letter s 16:01 ironically therefore, it's easier for a blind character to notice hidden doors than non-hidden ones, since auto-searching finds hidden doors 16:02 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:03 <[Demo]> why doesnt energy regeneration show up in enlightenment? 16:06 [hdf-us] [slex] Xaleth (Fla Dev Mal Cha), 84 points, T:311, killed by a monster (aggravating wallwalker) 16:07 <@luxidream> so my dyna game still has arch-liches after I genocided them 16:07 <@luxidream> I was going to report it after the game because I can deal with them 16:07 <@luxidream> but now the game crashes whenever I hit one 16:12 <[Demo]> probably some ghetto monster generation 16:12 <@Tone> Hi #hardfought, going to continue my nh361 wishless orc wizard on stream. Just got to gehennom and looking to finish this game today. https://www.twitch.tv/tonelive 16:13 <@luxidream> !tell K2 : so my dyna game still has arch-liches after I genocided them. I was going to report it after the game because I can deal with them but now the game crashes whenever I do anything actually 16:13 Will do, @luxidream! 16:13 but the champions league finale.. 16:13 its still going for 20 minutes 16:13 (at least) 16:14 if greqrg just got to gehennom, I doubt he'll ascend in 20 minutes 16:14 <@luxidream> !tell K2 what do you think we should do lol 16:14 Will do, @luxidream! 16:14 not everyone can be as fast as you :P 16:14 <@Tone> I'll probably still be managing my inventory when that game ends stenno 😛 16:14 haha ok 16:14 hey @luxidream 16:14 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-05-26 16:13 EDT: : so my dyna game still has arch-liches after I genocided them. I was going to report it after the game because I can deal with them but now the game crashes whenever I do anything actually 16:14 K2: Message from @luxidream at 2018-05-26 16:14 EDT: what do you think we should do lol 16:14 good luck in any case :) 16:14 <@Tone> Thanks 😄 16:15 i'm not sure... no one develops anything for dynahack anymore 16:15 nice, the blessed rustproof +7 Stormbringer. somehow I always seem to get +6 16:15 FIQ might be able to do something, but I dunno 16:16 oh i thought about something regarding the ascension run 16:16 wonder what you think about it 16:16 <@luxidream> is there like any way you can roll it back to before I entered VotD or something 16:16 <@luxidream> so maybe I can bypass the level and hopefully it works 16:17 one sec 16:17 whats the name of your save 16:17 well its pretty straightforward: don't let the player walk through the old dungeon up again, but make a special ascension run branch 16:17 and there you'd have all the freedom you can take to make it challenging 16:18 <@luxidream> "TRASH GRENINJA" 16:18 hah ok 16:18 theres a coredump 16:18 that'll help 16:19 stenno: The main upshot of that seems to be that the player will have to have all the items they want to carry to the ascension run *prior* to grabbing the Amulet or wherever the Point of No Return is. 16:19 yeah it'd be a point of no return 16:19 We already have the Planes as a special challenging ascension run branch 16:20 hmm 16:20 FIQ, does this help at all? (regarding dynahack segfault, luxidream game) - http://termbin.com/o3z9 16:21 !tell FIQ, does this help at all? (regarding dynahack segfault, luxidream game) - http://termbin.com/o3z9 16:21 Will do, K2! 16:21 <@luxidream> it seems to happen when the archlich attempts to teleport away 16:21 @luxidream lemme see if i can roll it back 16:22 <@luxidream> I assumed that they were doppelgangers until I saw the 5th one lol 16:22 <@luxidream> alright cool 16:22 -!- NewbProgrammer10 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:23 <[Demo]> weird 16:25 !who 16:25 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [dyn] toneLive [nh361] hypnotist [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 16:25 K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] 16:25 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 16:25 @luxidream did you load the game again? 16:26 <@luxidream> whoops yea 16:26 <@luxidream> I'll stop 16:26 yeah. dont 16:26 please log out of dgl for a moment 16:26 <@luxidream> done 16:27 kinda hard to roll bck an issue of the save is being used ;) 16:28 ugh 16:29 this isnt like editing a nh4 save 16:29 i cant really make sense of this 16:29 <[Demo]> yikes 16:29 no wonder that FIQ steers clear of it 16:29 <[Demo]> ok down to only 3 more spear points that i need special effect ideas for 16:29 <[Demo]> obsidian, jade, and agate 16:30 @luxidream I cant tell where to roll it back to 16:30 <@luxidream> give me a hundred turns? 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:59350 16:30 again, i cant tell where to roll it back to 16:30 <@luxidream> I can cursed gain level out in that time 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:59353 16:31 <[Demo]> spin it up and find out ol 16:31 "You are now wearing a pair of lenses named The Eyes of the Overworld. For the first time in your life, you can see!" 16:31 that message is a nice touch :) 16:31 <@luxidream> @nooodle you just broke zen 16:31 did you intend to break zen? 16:31 nope 16:31 didn't intend to 16:31 zen monks just sort of have to... ignore the Eyes of the Overworld completely 16:31 <@luxidream> that is the only way to break zen 16:32 <[Demo]> yikes 16:32 that's stupid 16:32 @luxidream this is what I am dealing with - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2488/source 16:32 any pointers are appreciated... 16:32