00:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Zanza (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3293 points, T:5722, poisoned by an orcish arrow 00:09 -!- Tangles is now known as Beholder-AU 00:12 epi: monsters wish for humanbane if you're a human 00:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder-AU] by ChanServ 00:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [-o Beholder-AU] by ChanServ 00:14 -!- Beholder-AU is now known as Tangles 00:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 00:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 9816 points, T:6720, killed by a tiger 00:31 Sokoban is my favorite place to die, apparently. 00:35 sokoban is nasty since you can't teleport yourself there 00:36 and you can't flee between the boulder 00:36 s 00:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 01:29 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:18 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:42 <@Winsalot> !tell jonadab so far gehennom looks really cool 03:42 Will do, @Winsalot! 03:53 yeah I like fourk gehennom too 04:19 <@Winsalot> But slex still has the best dungeons of doom 😃 04:20 <@Winsalot> maybe dnethack also has good dungeons of doom, but I haven't played it enough to really tell. 04:27 lol, this nymph didn't leave a corpse but she did read a scroll of create monster that created a lizard for me 04:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:51 <@Winsalot> rip 05:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:11 -!- loli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:12 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 05:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:22 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 05:57 <@Winsalot> ANyone knows how many levels of gehennpom I can expect in Fourk? Cos third lvl after valley of the dead already had fake wizard's tower 06:18 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:27 !tell Lymia the reason why you don't have a colored hitpoint bar in slex is because you didn't set statuscolors! here, feel free to copy and paste from my rcfile: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc :) 06:27 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 06:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:48 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: please remove +3 weapon requirement to hit from slex. 06:48 Winsalot: the next version makes it so that if your gloves are +3, unarmed/martial arts will be able to hit them ;) 06:48 also lol requesting feature removals from slex :P 06:50 <@Winsalot> That is not a feature. Its cancer 😃 06:50 lol 06:50 be glad it's not like regular SLASH'EM, where those would be completely impossible to hit! in slex, you will at least have a 1 in 3 chance to hit the monster anyway ;) 06:52 argh that was silly 06:52 I thought I was opening a door with a key 06:52 *and* typoed 'y' for 'h' 06:55 <@Winsalot> You shouldn't play Vanilla 07:00 I prefer taking the consequences of my stupidity, thank you 07:00 don't want my hands held 07:01 by (splendid German word alert) Besserwisser 07:03 y and h are quite wide apart. typo by brain fart? 07:03 h is directly under y on my keyboard 07:03 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:04 bhaak: on my keyboard they're also far apart, but some wierdo keyboards have y and z exchanged :P 07:04 don't the dutch also have a qwertz keyboard? 07:04 nope 07:04 okay then 07:04 it's especially "fun" in games that don't allow you to remap keys and are optimized for QWERTY keyboards *headdesk* 07:04 also I don't have a Dutch keyboard but US-International 07:04 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 07:05 LarienTelrunya: yeah. talk about those weird anglophones, heh 07:05 raisse: I have, too. but that doesn't prevent me from putting the y where God intended it to be :-) 07:06 95% of what I type is English and I'd hate having the y in a place where I'd have to hit it with my left little finger 07:07 far enough. I'm too stubborn to change my muscle memory from what I learned 30 years ago :) 07:08 this reminds me... i need to setup a keymap for 1.3d so i can use my nummber pad for movement keys 07:08 *number 07:08 K2: putty has a nethack mode 07:09 yeah, i never enable it though. I may have to make a special profile just for 1.3d heh 07:12 @Winsalot Fourk Gehennom is about the same size as vanilla Gehennom. 07:12 jonadab: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-05-23 03:42 EDT: so far gehennom looks really cool 07:13 The total depth of the game is about 3-5 levels deeper, but that's due to the Castle being 3-5 levels deeper. 07:14 Also, if you found a fake wizard tower three levels below the valley, it's a random decoy, not the _real_ fake tower. 07:14 i.e., it won't have the portal to the real tower. 07:15 but in vanilla the decoy tower is near the bottom of gehennom, like the real fake tower 07:16 usually on consecutive levels 07:16 LarienTelrunya: EPI: create a keymap that's optimized around the assumption of a dvorak keyboard. Hardcode it, and don't let the user rebind keys. 07:16 raisse: Yes, Fourk has that one too. 07:16 jonadab: omg that would suck :P 07:16 so there are *more* fake fake towers? 07:16 But random ones can potentially also pop up elsewhere. 07:16 Sometimes. 07:16 This is a recent change. 07:20 The tin opens like magic! It smells like floating eyes. Eat it? [yn] (n) 07:20 yes!! 07:23 LarienTelrunya: Find a piece of software that supports several keyboard layouts but doesn't let you arbitrarily rebind keys, you just pick the layout you want from a list. Try to convince the developers that you need support for a linotype layout. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/ClavierLinotype_20041006-163300.jpg 07:24 ...what the hell is that, no one can remember the position of those keys :P 07:24 It's arranged according to frequency of use in English text. 07:25 etaoin shrdlu 07:25 I don't think they ever made electronic/computer keyboards with that layout. 07:26 But it was nearly universal for hot metal typesetting systems, back in the day. 07:27 the laptop I'm typing this on has detachable keys, so you can have any layout you want :) 07:28 I used to use an Avant Stellar keyboard, which was fully remappable and have exchangeable keytops, yeah. 07:28 <@kritixilithos> a vim'ers paradise 07:29 <[Demo]> heh 07:29 If they didn't cost so much, I'd get the blank-tops Das Keyboard and just remap it in software. 07:29 (I mean, it's not THAT expensive... but it's basically just a bog standard keyboard, so it's not really worth it to me.) 07:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed +3 mitre of holiness", on T:39081 07:56 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:40533 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40537 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "the blessed greased fixed historic +3 gauntlets of power", on T:40849 08:07 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 26696 points, T:6596, killed by a monster (odorous girl), while sleeping 08:15 identified my amulet :-) 08:16 :) 08:17 The poison was deadly... 08:20 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 08:23 Good thing the nethack community doesn't need to remember "etaoin shrdlu" because we have a scroll for it :P 08:37 hmm im having fun splitting stacks of bjects 08:52 Ideas on the balance of forced illiteracy of cavemen? 08:52 What scrolls are fundamental to gameplay? 08:53 enchant foo, IMHO 08:53 Identify, enchants, and something else? 08:53 maybe also charging 08:53 thank god for shopkeeper services 08:53 i guess it's just really enchant foo 09:01 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 10741 points, T:220, killed by a falling rock 09:06 .... wow 09:06 Lymia: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-23 06:27 EDT: the reason why you don't have a colored hitpoint bar in slex is because you didn't set statuscolors! here, feel free to copy and paste from my rcfile: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc :) 09:06 So. 09:07 I can displace an acid sphere into a shopkeep door, and that destroys it. 09:07 So I can enter the shop 09:07 huh, really? 09:07 After which, the shopkeep has no objections to me being invisible. even though I move diagonally past him 09:10 the game sure likes to throw tons of lembas at me when I'm playing orcs 09:11 yep 09:11 The shopkeep doesn't consider it destruction of property 09:11 :D 09:13 nice 09:13 but do the doors reappear? 09:16 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 28535 points, T:964, killed by a gnome lord 09:19 yeah 09:19 heh, this floating eye didn't drop a corpse but dropped a magic marker instead... I'll take it 09:22 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 09:22 -!- cherryh.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org or nethack@eu.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 1.3d... yup, that's right. Version 1.3d 09:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:22 !ping 09:22 Tangles: Pong! 09:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:37284 09:28 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:28 !who 09:28 Tangles: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] krm26 [fh] aosdict [xnh] jonadab [xnh] 09:28 Tangles: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh361] 09:30 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:34 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 09:34 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org or nethack@eu.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 1.3d... yup, that's right. Version 1.3d 09:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:35 first mines level, "You sense a faint wave of psychic energy." greaaaaaat 09:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37946 09:43 ooh, bouquet's ghost 09:44 looks like you had some pretty nice stuff bouquet 09:44 healer bones, from my guess 09:44 no, monk 09:45 oh this is the one where you asked about cloth light armor :P 09:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "very historic thoroughly holy marker of magic", on T:38253 09:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:38254 09:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:38258 10:05 hm I am being offered 225 zorkmids for a ring... no ring should go that high 10:05 and 40 for another ring... ditto 10:05 these were from bones, elenmirie does it sound like the bug you mentioned? 10:05 LarienTelrunya, how does kicking a stack work? 10:05 Which item are you kicking 10:06 Lymia: you try to kick the topmost item 10:06 but those could be unstacked loadstones, huh 10:06 :c 10:06 well, the top stack is certainly loadstones; the other may be a loadstone with a different enchantment, or it might be a luckstone 10:07 Which layout is this anyway? I'm surprised the stones were just out in the open carried by a monster 10:08 mimic of the mines; the monster in question was a phasing one, so it might have picked up the luck/loadstones 10:09 !who 10:09 Tangles: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] krm26 [fh] mightyquinn [sp] Eleven [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 10:09 Tangles: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh361] 10:09 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [nh361] 10:09 shhh! not yet Beholder! 10:11 !who 10:11 Tangles: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] krm26 [fh] mightyquinn [sp] cxxr [dnh] Eleven [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 10:11 Tangles: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] 10:11 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [nh361] 10:11 yay fleecy colors ♥ 10:12 ...and with that, hdf-au (au.hardfought.org) is live! 10:12 wooooo! 10:12 oh 10:12 There's only one loadstone on this level 10:12 so 10:12 Bottom one is probably luckstone?? 10:13 well, there could theoretically be randomly generated loadstones, but chances are the bottom one is luck 10:17 elenmirie: found the cause of your weird bones item sell price, fixing 10:17 K2: this is likely a bug in grunthack too 10:18 actually wait, no, it fixed that and I missed it 10:19 -!- Tangles changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ New server in Sydney, AU - one step closer to world domination :) 10:20 aosdict: I fixed that bug in grunthack (or a very similar one) a little while ago. 10:21 Ah, so I have you to thank :) 10:21 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 10:22 I wonder if I can find the commit... 10:22 nah, already fixed it 10:26 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 39864 points, T:4132, killed by a giant mimic 10:28 What is the level below mines end in slex anyway 10:28 that's Ruggo's level; killing Ruggo gives a trophy in junethack 10:29 gotta turn off my PC now though because we have a thunderstorm; I'll be back later 10:29 Where is Ruggo 10:29 he's a purple G 10:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:29 I've seen nothing but o here :( 10:31 K2: pushed fixes, the bones ring/wand thing won't be fixed in current games but it will be for all future loads of bones levels 10:31 !whereis tangles 10:31 Tangles: [hdf-us] Tangles [fh]: (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) T:130 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 10:32 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [nh361]: (Kni Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 10:32 ugh that is wrong. 10:33 well it's half-right. 10:40 dgl doesnt unlink whereis files reliably 10:41 hit or miss 10:41 yay AU server is live! 10:41 !whereis Lymia 10:41 Lymia: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex]: (Mah Wis Fem Cha) T:8089 The Gnomish Mines level: 9 10:45 :/ 10:47 ... so. 10:47 In variants with the * sphere spells 10:47 How do you actually manage 10 pets everywhere leftover after fights 10:55 !pom 10:55 PavelB: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 6 days. 10:58 K2: What's the url for the AU server? 10:58 au.hardfought.org 11:10 !tell Grasshopper try ssh nethack@au.hardfought.org when you play next, ping it, see if that's any better for you :P 11:10 Will do, K2! 11:10 what the heck was a lich doing in Mines:12 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35249 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35323 11:29 standing on a polymorph trap of course 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed greased fixed historic scrolls of charging", on T:43467 11:38 Life Saving amulet :D 11:42 ohno 11:42 i might need it to survive this room 11:47 aosdict: time for an xnh update? 11:47 yes 11:47 it affects a materials bug in loading bones files and also improves lookups 11:48 mmmk 11:48 * aosdict is in bugfix-only mode till after jnh 11:49 good deal 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:45269 11:49 typically variant authors whose games are part of junethack implement a feature freeze about a couple weeks out 11:49 bug fixes only until end of tourney 11:50 [hdf-us] [slex] ttc1401 (Bar Ang Mal Law) killed the ghost of Lymia, the former Preparing for Exams, on T:1367 11:51 xNetHack updated (us and eu and au) 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35855 11:51 aosdict: yours is the first variant to get the tri-server update announcement 11:52 \o/ 11:56 soon to be (us and eu and au and ru and jp and sa) 11:57 i want antarctica 11:59 dtype: tell alexa to tell aws to make an instance hub there 12:01 <@Winsalot> !whereis winsalot 12:01 @Winsalot: [hdf-us] winsalot is not currently playing on this server. 12:01 @Winsalot: [hdf-eu] winsalot [4k]: (Tou Scu Mal Neu) T:25882 Gehennom level: 41 12:02 I wonder if anyone's said "OK Google, tell Alexa..." 12:02 !tell antigulp why are cerastes sessile? was that intended? 12:02 Will do, hothraxxa! 12:03 !tell anitgulp i do not see shimmering dragons displaced 12:03 Will do, hothraxxa! 12:04 K2: sure thing 12:06 \o/ 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25340 12:09 gotta keep the ping times of all those hardfought players at the south pole research station down 12:12 <@Winsalot> Lol, just chased pussy Orcus for over 4 floors 12:15 aosdict: you KNOW they play 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:25356 12:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8096 12:23 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:23 ha! was about to drop the luckstone on the altar, checked the clock to make sure it wouldn't cause a timeout... T:3599 12:24 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Client Quit] 12:25 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:29 Timeout? 12:31 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31 luck timeout happens every turns % 600 12:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:9272 12:32 booo 12:33 eh it's not that bad I guess 12:36 It really should be (function_of_gameseed() + turncount) % 600. 12:36 whats 'function_of_gameseed' ? 12:36 A function of the game seed. 12:36 presumably a hash function 12:36 Which the player does not know until after the game completes. 12:37 i see 12:37 you think so? 12:37 So then to be safe you'd have to wait 600 turns, regardless of the current turncount when it happens. 12:38 actually that is the kind of expert knowledge i like in nethack 12:38 This could mean that roles which start with temporary luck adjustments (convict I think?) might get lucky 12:38 stenno: It's a pointless spoiler tax. 12:38 no beginner will actually know or care about the luck timeout mod 12:40 if you want to, you could make the timeout like the exercise counter 12:40 that'd probably be a bit too evil though 12:40 wow, Kos didn't even bother to bless his holy gift of grimtooth 12:41 almost API 12:41 EPI 12:41 Evil Programming Interface? :D 12:42 is that kos? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qos_(deity) 12:42 :| 12:42 muscle memory i guess :P 12:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:43 man the hebraeic mysticism is so cool imo 12:43 gods and demons 12:43 god* 12:43 and kaballah 12:44 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:40052 12:44 a - a blessed rustproof long sword named Vorpal Blade 12:44 * stenno snickers 12:44 watch it, pal! i'll snee you 12:46 D: 12:46 snee ya later 12:47 apparantly posting yafap on reddit yields 60 upvotes nowadays 12:48 !who 12:48 K2: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] hothraxxa [spl] sk1j [fh] mightyquinn [sp] hypnotist [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 12:48 K2: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] 12:48 K2: [hdf-au] No current players 12:49 stenno: 'yet another fap?' 12:49 :| 12:49 ;) 12:49 yet another first ascension post 12:49 heh 12:49 so lewd D: 12:49 at least there was no astral splooge 12:49 you have no idea 12:49 oh, I thought the F stood for something else 12:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 44242 points, T:5909, killed by an orc shaman's force bolt 12:52 stenno: How about this: each time (moves % 300) == 0, there's a 50% chance of one point of luck timing out? 12:52 jonadab: sounds fair 12:52 Or, each time (moves % 200) == 0, a 1/3 chance. 12:52 or a 1/600 chance every move 12:52 or 12:52 that 12:52 s/move/turn 12:52 :P 12:53 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 11780 points, T:12939, killed by a fire ant 12:53 Or, it's a (20 + luck) in 20,000 chance. 12:53 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:54 hmm how did unnethack handle that again 12:54 i think in unnethack your timeout rate scales with the luck you have 12:54 so 13 Luck will timeout faster to 12 as 1 will to 0 12:55 (and yes, iirc luckstone doesn't prevent timeout, just slows it down) 12:55 That's _approximately_ what (20 + luck) in 20000 does. 12:55 yeah 12:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:55 lets see 12:55 Though really it should be 13 + luck in about 8000. 12:55 quick math 12:56 * aosdict misreads "rock mole corpse" as "rock star corpse" 12:56 (Trimming the constant factor makes the slowest case, when your luck is badly negative, really slow.) 13:09 should be 13 + abs(luck) imo 13:10 thats how i understood it in the first place 13:13 bah, due to my bandaged finger which I cut yesterday I messed up soko 13:16 it's a poor workman who blames his tools 13:22 hothraxxa: reminds me of the photography quote that went something like "Most famous photos were taken with a camera less advanced than yours." 13:23 truer than ever, that one 13:23 huawei just announced a phone with a 40mp camera :0 13:29 yeah gimme better glass, not more pixels 13:29 but people always like pixels 13:29 people are easily sucked in 13:30 another quote is something like..... amateurs worry about their camera. professionals worry about their lens. masters worry about the available light. 13:30 the huawei has leica lenses, i think 13:31 i know my current huawei phone does 13:31 i wonder what ansel adams would have made of photoshop 13:32 when you see professional photos taken with 6MP cameras from 2005 that kick your butt, you'll maybe stop complaining about your camera. heh 13:32 or worse, pro photographers that take *stunning* stuff with iphone 4 cameras and the like 13:33 i'd say at least 33% of the photos in our book were taken with a canon s45 4mp camera 13:35 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 13:35 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41 <@Winsalot> Damn, Fourk's Dispater's lair is nasty 13:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:01 <@Winsalot> Ok, this is not funny 14:01 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/448908375980245002/fourk_wtf_is_this.png 14:02 it looks like you might be fucked 14:02 <@Winsalot> Im fine 14:02 <@Winsalot> I have conflict 14:02 have conflict? 14:02 ahahah 14:02 proceed good sir 14:02 <@Winsalot> Also, wanna guess who will kill most of dudes in there? 14:02 the c 14:02 <@Winsalot> yeah 14:03 <@Winsalot> Already had similar situation in fq, but there were less monsters 14:04 itym fewer, but good luck anyway 14:05 <@Winsalot> thats how the whole level looks like 14:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/448909458769182720/fourk_wtf_is_this2.png 14:06 party at winny's! 14:07 <@Winsalot> 10x28 area filled with (to be) dead dudes 14:07 not really, demons don't leave corpses 14:07 they'll be statues 14:12 :D 14:12 harty hard and hack 14:12 party 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Ana Dwa Fem Cha), 106 points, T:510, killed by Ms. Ennistymon, the shopkeeper 14:18 <@Winsalot> ffs, suddenly all monsters remembered how to use wands of digging 14:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:30 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 56763 points, T:22971, killed by a rock troll 14:38 @Winsalot That room is likely to contain some fairly ridiculous loot, FWIW. 14:39 At depth 45, ... yeah, could be pretty good. 14:39 does fourk have leveled items? i.e. potions of gain level and scrolls of genocide won't appear on early floors? 14:40 Not yet. 14:40 That's a direction I might want to go, however. 14:42 Incidentally, @Winsalot, my working name for that feature is "challenge room". 14:42 Though I'm not sure how much of a challenge it actually is, at that stage of the game. 14:42 It may need some additional work in that regard. 14:42 I always call such rooms "killer rooms" :D 14:43 "What is this place?" "This place? It's YOUR TOMB!" 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] spork (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 14287 points, T:9498, quit 14:50 Is the only amulet given in slex Sokoban reflection? 14:52 there are two fake sokoban "final" levels where you get an amulet of strangulation or blindness, respectively, but if you get a prize on a real final level and that prize is an amulet, it will always be reflection 14:52 fff 14:52 I already have reflection from an implant 14:55 Maybe you will get the bag of holding. 14:56 One never knows. 14:56 jonadab: nah, she already completed soko and got an amulet 14:56 still good to have an alternate source of reflection though 14:58 EPI: new dungeon feature, mirror pool. If you cross it while you have reflection and are not blind, you stare into infinity and are paralyzed in place for 50d10 turns. 14:58 :D 15:06 What is Grund's Stronghold? 15:06 a one-level branch with Grund the Orc King, a boss who gives a trophy in junethack when killed 15:06 it also has a lot of orcs and soldiers with wands 15:06 yeah, I'm going elsewhere :D 15:06 oh, and the area in front of the drawbridge is full of traps 15:08 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 15:09 This is a branch, right? 15:09 Not something in the middle of the dungeon branch 15:09 what is a branch? Grund's Stronghold? yes 15:11 so wheres the other down stairs :( 15:12 somewhere in the black part of the map 15:12 you apparently have clairvoyance so finding it should be easy :) 15:14 What skill is stiletto? 15:14 knife 15:14 gah 15:15 And Marija disappeared to who-knows-where on town. 15:15 ... actually 15:15 I should go look somewhere 15:15 slex increases the amount of time you have until off-level pets go feral, especially if the pet was well fed before you got separated from it 15:16 in vanilla, you'd have a hard limit of about 3000 turns no matter how many troll and dragon corpses the pet has eaten :( 15:16 I've been to Grund's once, in vanilla Slash'EM. 15:16 DIdn't stick around long. 15:17 It's not really a safe place to be when you first find it. 15:17 Which is true of a lot of Slash'EM's one-level branches. 15:17 It's also not very useful to go there if you don't have a way to get past the drawbridge and moat, because most of the good items are sealed behind :D 15:17 Water walking and #monster? :D 15:18 Lymia: yeah you'd be able to get in if you wanted 15:18 there's also iron bars, walking through them lets you bypass the drawbridge 15:18 It's probably also a better approach 15:18 I don't know how the map looks though 15:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Grund%27s_Stronghold 15:23 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 15:23 Pet titan hype 15:23 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-22 13:52 EDT: don't phase out the void, I haven't tried it yet ;) 15:23 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2018-05-22 14:40 EDT: Bug in monster artiwishing code: mk_artifact can sometimes return NULL if all the valid artis have been created; the monster wish for artifact code doesn't check that. 15:23 AntiGulp: Message from hothraxxa at 2018-05-23 12:02 EDT: why are cerastes sessile? was that intended? 15:24 oh fff 15:24 I stepped on that nasty trap again 15:24 what does it do? 15:24