00:00 -!- Guest87905 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:07 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:08 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:22 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Tou Hum Mal Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:11737 00:25 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:30 !whereis mtf 00:30 PavelB: [hdf-us] mtf [fh]: (Tou Hum Mal Neu) T:12107 The Dungeons of Doom level: 4 00:30 PavelB: [hdf-us] mtf [sp]: (Archeologist human Mal Law) T:15 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:32 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:19 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30 someone needs to fix the formatting of whereis in sporkhack. 01:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:06 hah ... this is working 02:06 first time go 02:06 LarienTelrunya hi 02:06 morning K2! 02:07 question for oyu 02:07 you 02:07 do you remember which commit you made to slex that shows the git commit hash when you check verison in game / dumplog output? 02:08 uhh... that was a long time ago 02:08 yeah figured 02:08 and IIRC kerio made that commit, I'd have to dig into github to find it 02:08 no big deal, just curious 02:09 maybe I can find it by looking at the version command code 02:12 d1e6f55 looks like it could be it 02:13 27c6c22 then apparently changes it a bit 02:36 oh nice 02:39 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Fem Cha) shouted "nya", on T:706 02:40 yaaaaaaay the beautiful Lymia is playing again ♥ 02:40 * Lymia hides 02:40 *buuuuuundlebundlebundle!* 02:40 does fire do any more damage to enemies than it does to you 02:41 it does extra damage if the enemy resists cold but not fire 02:49 -!- Guest87905 has joined #hardfought 02:50 aww no beholder message for getting an artifact gift in slex 02:51 K2: can you check whether the livelog on hdf-us just had a line added saying that Lymia received some artifact from Queen Beryl? I tried to make the livelog report that... 02:51 yup one sec 02:54 -!- Guest87905 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:58 player=Lymia:role=Mah:race=Xra:gender=Fem:align=Cha:hybrid=Xra:turns=1951:trophy=received Asian Winter by Queen Beryl 02:58 ah, so the livelogging works :) 02:59 but it probably uses a slightly different format compared to other variants so the bot doesn't know what to do with it 03:00 Lymia: what the hell, why do you quaff from fountains? do you want to throw the game? 03:00 Blessed fountain chance still? 03:00 yes, but if it's not a blessed one, there's at least three different ways to get instakilled from quaffing one, and other bad stuff can also happen, including summoning Demogorgon or another demon lord 03:01 Ah, is that new? 03:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 03:01 yeah, slex made fountain quaffing much more dangerous 03:01 the instadeaths are rare, but the mere chance of getting one means it's like playing russian roulette 03:02 oh by the way, with higher petkeeping skill your pet doesn't have to be right next to you to follow you down a staircase; with basic skill, she can be two tiles away from you ;) 03:05 oh, so it does do something 03:05 :D 03:05 and I'd probably pet-test at least a few armor pieces and wear them, stuff like leather armor and hooded cloak if you want to avoid metal 03:05 Altar's, like 03:05 one dlvl up though 03:05 if you wear no suit/cloak at all, you're at risk of instadeath if a disintegration beam comes your way 03:07 by the way, if you're wondering about the fake artifacts: those are often highly enchanted. But not necessarily positively enchanted. Beware of cursed ones! :D 03:08 So they also do something, noted :D 03:09 you can wear-test the hard hat, it's always a dwarvish iron helm and if the enchantment is bad you can just take it off again ;) 03:09 I was hoping my pet would take it, lol :D 03:10 oh, wear testing shows you the enchantment too 03:10 yep 03:10 yeah 03:11 as long as it doesn't trash your spellcasting chances I'd wear it; in general wearing a helmet is always a good idea because mind flayers exist 03:11 ...is that one? 03:11 no 03:12 Hopefully I can cast Lightning at Skilled elemental skill 03:13 lightning is a matter spell though :( 03:13 oh no 03:13 lol so many purple h that turn out not to be mind flayers after all 03:14 Apparently lightsabers emit a useless amount of light 03:14 yep 03:15 also, if you cast spells while wielding a lit lightsaber, you will train the "Niman" form, and enhancing that improves your spellcasting chances both with and without lightsaber :D 03:16 1% better chance of casting spells per skill point without lightsaber, 6% better chance per skill point with lightsaber 03:16 yeah but 03:16 I have a useful weapon right now 03:16 How much damage does Fire do anyway 03:17 explode(u.ux, u.uy, ZT_SPELL(ZT_FIRE), 3 + (spell_damage_bonus(spellid(spell)) / 2), SCROLL_CLASS, EXPL_FIERY) 03:17 not sure how that calculates the damage though... 03:20 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 03:20 I don't actually know how to pet test :D 03:21 but you just did it! 03:21 I know the theory, but. 03:21 by seeing whether the pet will walk over the item, you can determine if the item is cursed. If the pet constantly avoids the item or "moves only reluctantly" when stepping on it, it's cursed. 03:21 oh, or is the pet just fast enough to move off immediately after being displaced? 03:22 displacing the pet onto the item doesn't help, because that forces the pet to be on the item's tile, and yeah, she can move off before you get another turn 03:22 she must walk over the item of her own free will 03:22 also, caveat: undead and demonic pets will avoid blessed items instead of cursed ones. Marija is neither undead nor demonic though so she will avoid cursed ones. 03:23 Probably easier to do in a hallway :D 03:23 Pet's wandering all over the place 03:24 if you make a pile, she will avoid it even if only one of the items is cursed 03:25 so now you know that one of them is cursed, but not which one 03:27 Are there amulets that autocurse? 03:27 IIRC strangulation did? 03:28 oh, no 03:28 strangulation doesn't, but there are a couple other types that do 03:41 What is a "box of obscure-looking glass devices" 03:41 a chemistry set, which allows you to transform bottles into potions; basically like a magic marker, but for potions 03:41 however, if you don't know the chemistry spell, it rarely works 03:43 hahaha "Selgnat's hardware store" :D 03:44 Huh? 03:44 gotta love the shopkeeper names 03:44 (hint: read it backwards) 03:45 oh 03:45 Does this artifact have the same properties as magicbane? 03:45 (Enchanting it makes the "freezes target" occur less) 03:46 no, it'll always freeze the target as long as it's not cold resistant, i.e. enchanting it is strictly a good idea 03:48 I should add a shopkeeper named Aimyl :D 03:55 LarienTelrunya: good name! 03:55 :) 03:55 ones named Essiar and Eirimnele already exist btw 03:56 amazing that they all look and sound like names :-) 03:57 do you have an Axxarhtoh? 03:57 "Kaahb", "Badanoj", "Natas", "Sirhc", "Ntgnut", "Tnurgs", "Remirol", "Noeda", "QIF", "Livednam", "Maerdixul" etc. 03:57 ah, good catch, that one really is missing for some reason 03:58 I think Remirol is in vanilla too 03:58 ah, no, that's lorimer's alt nick 03:58 Tcidsoa? 03:58 Rohk? 03:59 wtf that one (Tcidsoa) also isn't in the list? thanks, will add :) 03:59 Redloheb :-) 03:59 or Ycnuonna for that matter 03:59 haha, I guess? 03:59 more variety > less variety, so I'll add those as well 04:00 I was going to suggest Rodney but that's Yendor of course 04:00 YASI: there should be a YAFM if you try to #name the Wizard of Yendor "Rodney". 04:02 Rodney isn't evil, he's just builled by adventurers calling him silly names and stealing his stuff. 04:02 :( 04:02 Freeze Sphere, a real spell :D 04:02 Matter too 04:03 careful around watchmen with those spheres! 04:05 .. mimicry sounds actually useful, somehow 04:06 yeah, it's good to use in combination with ranged weapons, wands or spells, because those won't blow your disguise 04:06 Oh, really. So it's not even the mimic corpse effect since it doesn't para? 04:07 no, you retain control of your character :) 04:07 So hide behind it while spamming freeze spheres. Got it :P 04:09 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:10 welp my pet is murdering guards now 04:10 nice 04:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17 What's the level for quest in slex, btw? 04:18 Doesn't seem to be 14 anymore 04:24 you mean where the quest portal is? randomly placed on 15-49 04:25 also, the guards being killed by the pet is usually a good thing, unless the pet loses the confrontation ;) 04:28 bug_sniper: I'm not 04:28 Lymia: ohh you got the best mines end, Khor's orc temple version :) 04:29 I mean, minimum level. 04:29 oh, minimum level to be allowed to go on the quest? 1 :P It's also open by default, you can completely ignore the quest leader if you want. And the game can never be rendered unwinnable by the quest leader sealing the quest, because he can no longer do that. 04:30 this isn't mines end though 04:30 there's a > 04:30 it is; SLASH'EM adds Ruggo's level below Mines End 04:31 also, if this were Junethack (you're cordially invited into my clan *bundlebundlebundle* ♥), getting the luckstone would be a trophy and killing Ruggo on the level below would be another 04:32 also 04:32 There's a level 24 "dark force girl the floor above 04:32 And my bag's missing :( 04:32 ouch! the girl probably got created due to aggravate monster 04:33 she's not that terribly powerful, but can still pose a threat; command undead would probably work on her 04:33 95% fail 04:34 are you poison resistant? if not, that venom spider is a huge threat 04:34 No, and it's dead 04:34 ugh those gray stones are in bullshit places 04:35 can't kick-test them :( 04:35 these are probably the loadstones 04:35 Since it's a stack 04:35 ... no 04:36 there's two luckstones? 04:36 here in slex, luckstone effects can stack to a certain degree, meaning that two luckstones are better than one :) 04:36 all gray stones have a chance of spawning in a stack, but it doesn't happen often; here it apparently did 04:43 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Fem Cha), 47833 points, T:9362, killed by a monster (natsukemono) 04:43 oh fff 04:43 zapped > instead of . 04:43 argh! rip :( 04:44 !lastgame Lymia 04:44 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Lymia/slex/dumplog/1526379854.slex.txt 04:44 > vs . is confusing :( 04:46 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 04:46 aosdict: yeah, users are cleared every year. it's an error that you can even see the login page right now. it should be hidden like the registration page 04:48 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 This role's low starting int is not helping the spell cast rates :D 04:52 yeah, it's intentionally designed so that the spellcasting stat (INT) is low while the dump stat (WIS) starts out high 04:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:52 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 04:52 early game mahou shoujo are difficult to play! 04:52 can you explain why natto is poisonous 04:54 they apparently are in Animeband 04:54 so when I ported them to slex, I gave them the M1_POIS flag 04:57 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Mal Cha), 907 points, T:1181, killed by a monster (heisenbug) 04:57 wands of bugging are apparently horriffic 04:58 yes indeed, heisenbugs can wreck your shit early on :( rip 04:58 @le?heisenbug 04:58 heisenbug (x) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 35 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d3 touch shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: amorphous, phases, breathless, oviparous, teleports 04:58 their extremely high speed makes it difficult to get away from them 04:58 How much health do they have? 04:58 judging by their level, probably about 60-80 04:59 Are there better ways to increase int than finding hs? 05:00 the "tin of fish" (which is rare) increases it, and I think there's also some sort of tool, intelligence pack or something, which increases it too 05:01 or theoretically you can be hit by a nexus attack and have two of your stats randomly swapped; it happened in my current ongoing game and I have 25 INT since that incident :D 05:01 Also, doesn't WIS determine energy regen? 05:01 yes, but INT factors into the regeneration rate too 05:02 WIS does determine how much mana you get from leveling up, so it's not completely useless, but it does nothing for your spellcasting chances 05:03 Can always spam magic missile and force bolt :D 05:03 (... if I can find them) 05:10 Does message have a practical use 05:10 no, it only trains chaos spells (and niman if you have a lit lightsaber) 05:18 YASI: japanese roles will receive the message "Ecchi - that must have been poisonous!" 05:28 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Mal Cha), 5434 points, T:2526, killed by a monster (Pustulence) 05:28 fountain? 05:29 Yeah. I was hoping to overflow it 05:29 since, uh 05:29 poisoned to 3 str, and a creature lava'd the area. 05:30 there's a way to get back to 4 STR and regain your ability to cast spells: wait until you get weak from hunger, which can't reduce your STR because it's at the minimum already, and then eat something which will nonetheless restore a point of strength even though you didn't lose one :D 05:31 I seee 05:32 Does lava next to water even interact? 05:34 no, the water tiles would only generate on tiles without lava but they can be next to each other 05:34 in the case of doubt, panic digging would have allowed you to get past the wall 05:34 Ah, right 05:34 The issue wasn't that I was separated from stairs, but my pet. 05:36 ah, yeah she's kinda crucial to mahou shoujo's early game 05:38 by the way, you've now played quite a bunch of slex games, maybe you want to take a survey? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6DY8XZoLRabcEEADZI4axDofRXkuBV6qN7y8d-ID-_VRsqQ/viewform *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 05:40 ohno 05:41 heh, I work for a market research institute in real life :D "Good day, I'm Amy from the slexomatic institute, and we're currently doing surveys. May I ask you some questions? It will take about 6 minutes." 05:41 And of course it often happens that people say no :P 05:42 well ok 05:42 My pet found a /ospeed monster 05:42 zapped herself 05:42 And won't give it to me 05:43 she'll give it back sooner or later 05:43 just act bored 06:06 omg K2 you continued developing the evil variant? which version of Grunthack will be used in junethack? 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:25403 06:08 hmm no chest in the first 3 castle towers checked... Let's see what's behind door #4. 06:09 ah shit I forgot I just ate a dragon before saving yesterday. nearly choked! 06:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:18 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:19 Why can you ooze into a door diagonally but not out of one diagonally 06:19 huh, weird 06:23 breathing lightning at the door will probably also destroy it 06:25 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 4773 points, T:3992, killed by a monster (silver fox) 06:25 The heck is that map 06:26 !lastgame ly 06:26 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] No last game for ly on this server. 06:26 !lastgame Lymia 06:26 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Lymia/slex/dumplog/1526636511.slex.txt 06:27 two monster filled rooms 06:27 just an ordinary level with several special rooms 06:27 Might just be the RNG 06:27 :D 06:27 did you ever try ironman mode? :D 06:28 Has anyone ascended it before 06:29 because that sounds horrible 06:29 yes, and you're talking to her :) it was in an older version though 06:31 also, sometimes I like to do what https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/698plb/take_the_fleecy_slex_challenge/ describes ;) 06:32 "Space Base"? 06:32 The heck is this branch 06:32 oh it's the first time you entered it? 06:32 yeah 06:32 the space base is from ZAPM: if you can complete it and all three sub-branches, you will get an artifact that lets you branchport, plus some random artifact, and may learn some (randomly selected) skills that your role normally wouldn't be able to learn. 06:33 How deep is it 06:33 space base is 12 levels, with the three branch staircases on the bottom three levels. Sewer Plant, Gamma Caves and Mainframe are about 4-5 levels in length each. 06:34 <[Demo]> yey zapm 06:34 Might wanna try going soko first anyway 06:34 [Demo]: port slex's zapm branch to dnethack :D 06:34 no hands = no tins 06:35 <[Demo]> the most I'd be willing to do is a tribute lvl 06:35 <[Demo]> like the rogue lvl 06:35 obtw Lymia, as a wisp you can eat humans without penalties :) 06:36 Oh right 06:36 "evil and fiendish"? 06:36 means that you got +1 alignment because you're chaotic 06:36 ah 06:37 And pets apparently avoid cannibalism? (sometimes?) 06:37 pets avoid eating anything that's the same glyph, so Marija won't eat any @ 06:40 getting rid of annoying doors will be much easier if you wield some weapon with which you can #force 06:43 -!- Dewzmint has joined #hardfought 06:46 how long does it take for Leg to heal 06:46 uhh, depends on how you got it? 06:46 trying to kick a door 06:47 also you don't have legs anyway, so you can just try repeatedly :D 06:47 apparently each such failure can add up to 60 turns to the "wounded legs" counter 06:51 I love you too RNG 06:52 what did it do? 06:52 Restore Abilities is never generated 06:52 Apparently 06:52 the potion or the spellbook? 06:53 I think the potion? 06:53 It just said "restore ability" 06:53 Could be either 06:53 yeah, "pink" is the potion, so the spellbook may be able to generate 06:54 <[Demo]> what about the wand? 06:56 there is no wand of restore ability 06:56 <[Demo]> what about the scroll? 06:56 <[Demo]> slex is failing me here 06:56 <[Demo]> there should be a wand for everything 06:57 <[Demo]> and a scroll and a potion and a spell 06:58 nah, I don't add things just for the sake of adding them (this may come as a shock to you) :D 07:03 What's the * next to materials do? 07:03 Or, well mean 07:04 means that it's made of glass and shouldn't be thrown, because it will otherwise shatter 07:04 also, a ! means that the item is made of ether and will contaminate you slowly while it's in open inventory (and faster if it's wearable and you are wearing it) 07:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:10 btw 07:10 Where do wisps' shock resistance come from? 07:10 I didn't see it in attrib.c 07:10 monst.c, the wisp monster 07:11 actually... weird 07:11 they don't have MR_ELEC, maybe they automatically get the resistance because they breathe it? 07:12 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Fem Cha), 7016 points, T:1527, killed by a monster (leprechotta), while paralyzed by a monster's passive attack 07:13 So many new para on hit monsters 07:13 wtf? the leprechotta shouldn't have passive paralysis... what paralyzed you? 07:13 uuuh, a F IIRC 07:13 blue fungus/stalk? 07:13 !lastgame Lymia 07:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Lymia/slex/dumplog/1526639173.slex.txt 07:14 tapioca pudding, apparently 07:15 are * troves supposed to give instrinsics? 07:15 K2: The appropriate way to get the commit hash in 3.6.1 is probably different from slex's, since 3.6.1 added the commit hash into the version command. 07:15 It seems very very rare 07:17 same chance like eating other monsters that convey the intrinsics; a level 0 trove only has 3% or so chance of conveying it 07:18 Saving grace with wisp is that it turns out pets can open doors :D 07:19 well, intelligent ones can; if you were a role that starts with a dog or cat, there'd be trouble (but not that much trouble once you wield something that can #force the annoying doors away) 07:20 -!- Guest87905 has joined #hardfought 07:20 the impact staff might actually be a good choice for mahou shoujo: d13 damage, can reach expert, and improves spellcasting chances a bit when wielded 07:21 certainly better than bare hands :D 07:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:25 wait what 07:25 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 299 points, T:907, killed by a monster (boot girl) 07:25 -!- Guest87905 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:25 !lastgame Lymia 07:25 Lymia: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Lymia/slex/dumplog/1526642192.slex.txt 07:25 oh right 07:25 was only xp 2 07:25 chances of dying in slex to something girl-related: 20%. chances of dying to something shoe-related: 30%. 07:29 aosdict: where do i find your notes on splicehack? 07:29 I'm imagining a Venn diagram of slex deaths and the overlap between "girl related" and "shoe related" 07:31 hothraxxa: uhhhh where did I put it? gist I think? 07:31 i can't find the link either 07:31 you mentionbed it here but i don't know what to grep for 07:32 Grasshopper: prob be just one big circle 07:32 hothraxxa: go to gist.github.com/copperwater and find "splicehack.txt" 07:33 ty 07:33 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 07:33 off to work 07:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:41 aosdict: hahaha in slex you can die to a shoe that was used by a girl against you :D "The sadistic asian girl places her hugging boots on your toes, and it hurts in a wonderful way." 07:43 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:44 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/recent.slx.html only has 3 girl-related deaths though 07:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51 Go team Girl (and shoes)! 07:52 ~~Clearly you need to fix this~~ 07:52 girl power ftw ♥ 07:53 "I've always known that chicks will inherit the Earth, I just didn't know it'd be this much fun." 07:53 attribute that to someone wise 07:54 What, you aren't taking credit for the quote? 07:54 Hey, I just invented it 07:55 I haven't made it famous yet 07:55 I'm imagining someone saying that at the party to celebrate 07:56 LarienTelrunya yes i've done some more work on grunthack 07:57 hi K2! so grunthack is actively developed now and will also have new stuff added? 07:57 and yes 0.2.3 will be live in time for junethack 07:57 well its always been actively developed by us vs it being abondoned for 5+ years prior 07:58 just sometimes there's space inbetween commits ;) 07:58 yeah but you added new monsters apparently, did you invent them? 07:58 did you read the commit message? 07:58 uhh, nope, I probably should have :D 07:58 will do so now 07:58 :) 07:59 my blind character just found a wand that sold for 250. Read a scroll of identify. ..... s - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3) 07:59 blind wishing time 07:59 hmm... "new monster Elder Minotaur" - I guess that's completely new? 07:59 nice 07:59 LarienTelrunya yes thats one i invented 08:00 sounds fkd up 08:00 they are cuddley 08:00 badass + spells? 08:00 ah, I see :) will you add more new monsters in the future that I can steal for slex? if the answer is yes, I'd like to say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (yes that's not a word, if you want one I'll say *swarming swing bundle of sweethearts* :D) 08:00 still dies to /oD :D 08:01 love is forever 08:01 Grasshopper: not a spellcaster. they are bigger and hit harder but are a bit slower 08:01 and have some MR 08:01 Lymia: don't try to wand of death minotaurs in slex, they're immune to it :D 08:02 Can you still price ID items shopkeeps started with in slex? 08:03 you can price ID spellbooks, and are apparently doing it; most everything else can't be price-IDed (scrolls, wands, potions etc.) 08:03 you can still price ID positive enchantments on equipment 08:03 LarienTelrunya: dont plan on adding any new monsters after last night, at least none i've invented. i might steal one or two more from another variant but that would be it 08:03 happy with the work i did last night 08:03 oh hey 08:03 That *was* force bolt 08:03 :D 08:03 K2: aww... but I guess once junethack is over, feature freeze ends and you might add more ;) 08:04 K2: where are these new grunthack commits 08:04 in fact, aren't we supposed to be on feature freeze for all variants since 15th already? 08:04 one sec 08:04 I don't see anything in nhtangles/grunthack 08:04 aosdict: grunthack-dgl branch 08:04 https://github.com/NHTangles/GruntHack/commits/grunthack-dgl 08:05 btw 08:05 I have a complaint 08:05 Where's the girlname option 08:05 * LarienTelrunya wants to *bundlebundlebundle* K2 into becoming a full-fledged variant developer that adds a ton of stuff to grunthack ♥ 08:05 aosdict: the beholder tweaks are live now (those didnt save break). 0.2.3 isnt up yet 08:05 no i am not adding a ton of stuff to gh 08:05 just a few bits here and there that i've been thinking about since last summer 08:06 Lymia: slex has so many different pets for the various roles... I guess I should make their starting names customizable though 08:06 oh... i forgot then... 08:06 GruntHack updated (us and eu) 08:06 ^^ from yesterday 08:06 I would variant except Nethack's codebase horrifies me. :p 08:07 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:07 Lymia: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That makes me wonder, did you toy with the idea of making a nethack variant before? and if so, do you have a draft of the changes you'd make? maybe even new monsters and stuff you'd add? 08:08 if that is the case, I'd like to steal some of those things for slex *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 08:08 Honestly, the ideas I have for roguelikes probably amount to a new game with similar gameplay more than a variant :D 08:08 aosdict: you and jonadab helped me out quite a bit yesterday, thank you 08:08 ... or, well. 08:08 The same general kind of gameplay. 08:08 lol I just realized I already said "bundlebundlebundle" at least 4 times today 08:09 all this new variant work going on made me want to look at gh again heh 08:09 Lymia: sounds very interesting! so, do you have a draft of those ideas that I could take a peek at? :) 08:09 <[Demo]> Amy do u have a bundle and ♡ key on ur keyboard? 08:09 wtf how do you get a ♡ glyph? 08:09 my keyboard will only make ♥ 08:10 bundlebundlebundle™ 08:10 there, i trademarked it 08:10 Such a dear bundle! :) 08:13 Lymia: seriously, do you have your roguelike design ideas in written form somewhere? we girls should keep together and help each other out so that all of us can make even better games :) 08:13 Not really. More like vague ideas :D 08:13 aww 08:14 if you ever get around to writing them down, I'd be interested in reading them 08:15 if that brain golem leaves a corpse, eat it! it can give +INT! 08:16 The one idea I did have somewhat fleshed out was... incompatible with Nethack's basic design, likely :D 08:16 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 08:17 Like, stealing basic design ideas from Pikmin, with a 30 (or so) "day" limit, discrete dungeon trips, and leveling not being possible in dungeons. 08:17 hmm, never played that 08:18 slex does have an ascension turn count "limit", but you don't autodie if you exceed it, the game just becomes progressively harder 08:20 yeah 08:20 My pet's probably getting any brain golem corpses 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:27489 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27489 08:23 wooo Tangles 08:25 The basic idea I had was, like 08:25 Difficulty would scale entirely on how far in the dungeon you were, and you only leveled when you left a dungeon. 08:25 So combined, though there was no turn limit to a dungeon "run", there's the implicit limit that you can only go so far before you start getting outleveled. 08:26