00:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 285314 points, T:34775, killed by Croesus 00:00 blaaaaarg 00:02 Rip 00:03 I imagine plastic armor would be like modern riot gear 00:05 [hdf-us] [fh] monksuck (mighty) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 59212 points, T:9076, killed by a Mr. Eed-morra, the shopkeeper's wand, while jumping around 00:09 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Pri Elf Mal Law), 53340 points, T:9917, killed by an invisible quasit 00:13 !who 00:13 PavelB: [hdf-us] mighty [fh] k2 [nh361] 00:13 PavelB: [hdf-eu] No current players 00:13 !whereis k2 00:13 PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 [nh361]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:26620 Gehennom level: 26 00:18 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:27762 00:23 that's the thing about plastic - it can be realistic on both hard and soft items 00:24 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 00:32 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] Zanza (Val Hum Fem Law), 314 points, T:1526, killed by a wand 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:29607 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:29797 00:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:30393 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:30440 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31526 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31527 01:09 Go K2! :) 01:12 o/ 01:14 K2 the Valkyrie casually waves at us from the dungeon with one hand as she mercilessly slices Excalibur through the worst Gehennom can throw at her with the other. 01:15 :) 01:15 while burdened 01:15 heh 01:16 oh wow 01:16 VS on dlvl 44 01:16 what sorcery is this? 01:16 Is that early 01:16 very 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32998 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33001 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33434 01:34 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33676 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33677 01:40 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Mal Cha), 2491 points, T:1652, killed by a monster (crude turret) 01:43 Go team @! 01:43 !whereis k2 01:43 PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 [nh361]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:33903 Gehennom level: 41 (with Amulet) 01:47 !commands 01:47 Grasshopper: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 01:48 !8ball Will K2 win this time, or will he choke and YASD or at least ascend in celestial disgrace? 01:48 Grasshopper: My reply is no 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:34656 01:48 K2 looks bad for you! 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:34705 01:49 !8ball Astral splat? 01:49 Lymia: You may rely on it 01:49 The bot has spoken. 01:50 !whiskey K2 01:50 * Beholder hands K2 a tall glass of Jack Daniels whiskey, conjured by TheresaMayBot at 130 degrees Fahrenheit. 01:53 danka 01:53 * K2 chugs 01:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:53 man, impressive, chugging down a tall glass of Jack 01:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35247 02:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:36357 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36357 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:36514 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:36586 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:36617 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law), 2359372 points, T:36619, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/dumplog/1526007451.nh361.txt 02:19 wewt 02:19 the bot was wrong 02:19 :P 02:20 congratulations K2! *sweetheart bundle* 02:20 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-05-14 11:32 EDT: is there some sort of graffitist race in slex whose sole purpose is to go around making graffiti? 02:20 heh thanks LarienTelrunya 02:20 I'll be pushing one last slex feature update (non-savebreaking) today and then I guess it's officially feature freeze 02:21 i.e. only bugfixes from that point on 02:21 grats K2! \o/ 02:22 thanks Tangles! 02:22 though why anyone would take pestillence first is beyond me. 02:22 spawned on left side 02:22 err right 02:22 my other left 02:23 Actually yeah I usually just head in whatever direction drops me... but ugh. Pestillence is the worst. 02:23 i got lucky... two shotted him 02:24 i didnt even do purple rain 02:25 but isn't using purple rain on astral the requirement for being admitted into hardfought's inner circle? ;) 02:26 heh 02:28 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 02:30 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 02:31 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 K2: the slex update is ready at the master branch now. Most importantly, this fixes a bug where double lightsabers don't turn off correctly if you wield something else while both blades were lit, and it does some final balance changes. Now the game should be ready for the final pre-Junethack bugtesting stage :) 02:33 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:41 !whereis Lymia 02:41 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex]: (Mah Ink Mal Cha) T:845 The Gnomish Mines level: 4 02:41 It turns out I conclusively misunderstood what the code for Inka and nature beam did 02:41 :( 02:42 nature beam is such a high-level spell that you most probably won't be able to cast it for a loooooong time 02:43 !tell aosdict heh, actually I think it's a shame you can't easily make graffiti in nethack, since it's such a waste of marker charges 02:43 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:43 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 02:44 yay! thanks K2! I'm looking forward to playing again, but I currently have the "K2 week" (really, that's what they call it) where I need to interview people on trains a lot 02:45 today's shift is until 23 PM, and on thursday I have to start at 6:12 AM :O 02:45 no time to play slex for a while, sadly :( 02:48 Nethac's codebase, holy crap. 02:48 I can't even find where spell levels are 02:51 objects.c 02:51 SPELL("nature beam", "retarded", P_ELEMENTAL_SPELL, 2, 60, 8, 1, RAY, CLR_BROWN, 50), 02:51 I found it, but it took quite a bit of tracing. :c 02:51 the 8 is the spell level 02:51 This is... quite spaghetti. 02:51 As I understand it, the spell level is a property of the spellbook, which gets copied into the player's spell list, and that's where the spell level in casting is actually from? 02:52 @.@ 02:52 yeah 02:52 in fact, I think if you cast a spell the game will make a spellbook of that spell as a dummy object 03:03 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03 -!- Cassieopeia_ has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 03:05 How bad is fumbling? 03:06 ... ah, trips, uh. 03:07 -!- Cassieopeia has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:10 yeah, fumbling randomly makes you lose turns, and can also wake up monsters if you carry a lot of stuff 03:15 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Mal Cha), 559 points, T:567, killed by a monster (yakuza member), while frozen by a wand 03:27 [hdf-us] [fh] Dong (mighty) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 47628 points, T:6336, killed by a pit viper 03:29 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 03:31 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:41 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:04 well 04:04 I just saw a soldier blow themselves up with their own frag grenade 04:04 I guess monsters kill themselves by accident sometimes too 04:04 :D 04:05 yeah the AI is not that bright ;) 04:06 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2255 04:07 LOL does that actually happen in vanilla? or is it FIQhack-specific? 04:08 FIQHack only because it uses the same function as players for digging logic 04:08 monster digging can never result in holes/pits filling with water 04:08 outside fh 04:08 ah 04:08 honestly 04:09 Why do slex shopkeeps care about pickaxes when everyone can phase door 04:09 phase door doesn't destroy their walls ;) (protip: don't dig down inside a shop, unless you want to lose all your items - if you are going to shoplift via pick-axe, do it horizontally) 04:10 I thought the standard way to shoplift was murder ;) 04:10 yeah that works too, if you're strong enough to kill him 04:12 Gold seems a lot rarer in this variant 04:12 (that, or, I'm used to /oFing the shopkeeps...) 04:13 use that pick-axe to loot some vaults, that'll give you lots of gold 04:14 wtf you're not taking along the gauntlets??? 04:16 they're silver 04:16 I guess weight isn't as much a thing though 04:17 slex allows you to carry a lot of stuff 04:17 If only if it wasn't #s that you can't properly organize or work with 04:17 :( 04:18 you can, just use a container to store your stuff! 04:24 /oD is one way to murder shopkeeps I guess :o 04:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:45 bhaak: un.nethack.eu games now point to ascension.run archival data on the scoreboard (https://github.com/borekl/nhs/commit/1d604e672fc1ce7809c4aace9fc87196ee8a6422) 04:52 ?? 04:52 I've only found one loadstone in this Mine's End 04:52 And no other gray rocs 04:52 rocks* 04:53 probably didn't find all the secret rooms yet 04:54 mnend-4 in mines.des 04:54 oh there it is 04:54 Mandevil: great! 04:55 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Fem Cha), 49243 points, T:6988, killed by a blast of disintegration 04:56 wtf where did that come from? 04:56 Black drago 04:56 dragon* 04:56 also, you could have worn those gloves!!! 04:56 in fact, why do you not wear any armor 04:56 I forgot black dragons had the disintegration beam :( 04:57 Good question 05:15 this weapons shop has 4 spears 05:15 too bad I'm an arc and I don't want any 05:16 -!- Melanocetus has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:22 What is the seemingly random "monsters come out of a portal" effect in slex anyway? 05:23 that's because you have aggravate monster: it surrounds you with out of depth monsters 05:23 ah 05:29 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Mal Cha), 7920 points, T:2450, killed by a monster (Bear-Man) 05:30 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 05:30 I'll be afk for a while eating dööööööööööööööööööööner :) 05:32 -!- Melanocetus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:05 Also ascension.run UnNetHack games now link to HTML dumps. 06:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:10 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Xra Fem Cha), 5604 points, T:2651, killed by a monster (gnomelin) 06:21 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:22 wtf, apparently blind monsters (e.g. elementals) will still randomly attack the wrong square if you're invisible... why? 06:23 LarienTelrunya: Because they don't see you, stupid. 06:24 But they don't see you if you're visible either. 06:24 Yes, but don't tell the devs. 06:24 They are fooled by your invisibility. If you're visible, they somehow always know exactly where you are, which is something that YOU cannot do while permablind, unless you obtained telepathy. 06:25 magic 06:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:04 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:16 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:42803 07:35 Anyone knows what is 'if (u.uroleplay.illfated)' in SpliceHack? 07:35 !ping 07:35 Grassy: Pong! 07:36 Wow, Iexist 07:37 Mandevil: 'You are going to meet a terrible fate' 07:37 Mandevil: it's ramping up level difficulty by 50 07:37 So hardcore mode? 07:37 seems to be 07:37 "ultraviolence" mode 07:39 Hm... what shortcode to use... "fate", "hard", "ultr".... 07:39 "illf" 07:40 It doesn't matter anyway. 07:40 Who is going to win that? 07:40 Tariru 07:40 heh 07:40 After he runs out of SLEX combos? 07:40 yes, or a an in-between snack 07:41 Grassy: I was sort of assuming your existence when you said something in the channel 07:42 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:43903 07:54 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:06 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:16 I like how we have a ready answer to "Who could ever possibly win that?" now. 08:16 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-15 02:43 EDT: heh, actually I think it's a shame you can't easily make graffiti in nethack, since it's such a waste of marker charges 08:16 wow, nice, game, start my orc rogue off with an egg and a lembas wafer to eat 08:17 its because Tariru is not human 08:17 YANI: orcs never start with lembas 08:17 he was sent down by Zeus to conquer nethack 08:17 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45290 08:19 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 08:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 322 points, T:530, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 08:23 sleep ray + silver pickaxe 08:36 I have implemented the extra conducts signalled in the achieve field. 08:36 Now could someone ascend one such conduct, so I can see if my code works? 08:36 ok 08:38 illfated fumbling deaf zen nudist. 08:38 Should be easy. 08:38 Mandevil: Do you need a game that's been ascended? 08:38 Yes. 08:39 Well, the above was tongue-in-cheek obviously. 08:39 I was just pointing out that the conducts are nice, but no one has done them. 08:39 Ditto xnh and splicehack permahallu? 08:39 Yeah. 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:39498 08:41 Here's the commit: https://github.com/borekl/nhs/commit/bebdf15ad2ebfd2b917e2478133bd3ee033a3119 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:39500 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39500 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of charm monster", on T:39501 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:39514 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:39516 08:51 -!- dewz_ has joined #hardfought 08:52 -!- dewz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:52 Wonder if solidsnail is still around? He could now do real on-the-record zen conduct. 08:56 refresh my memory please... zen conduct is no armor? 08:56 zen conduct is blind. 08:56 ah just blind 08:57 solidsnail did several zen runs few years ago. 08:57 telepathy doesnt break that conduct does it? 08:57 No, it does not. 08:57 <@Tone> Nope 08:57 ok 08:57 yeah that's be awesome to see someone pull it off 08:57 <@Tone> Finding a floating eye corpse is really important early on 08:57 Yeah. 08:58 <@Tone> Mandevil How long has that been tracked? 08:58 Also, before official zen conduct you needed to take off your blindfold to read the book of the dead. 08:58 no armor would be nudist... doh 08:58 rld: Since 3.6.0 I believe. 08:58 rld: It was not official conduct in 3.4.3 for sure. 08:58 you mean @Tone 08:58 pinging rld won't do anything 08:58 rld is the bridge 08:58 Er. 08:58 Sorry. 08:58 <@Tone> I meant for the purposes of what you're doing Mandevil 08:58 Autopilot kicks in. 08:59 <@Tone> @Webmant has done a few over the past year or two 08:59 @Tone Not sure what you mean? 08:59 <@Tone> He definitely has a 360 one logged on NAO 08:59 <@Webmant> Zen? 08:59 <@Webmant> I did do 2 Zen chars 08:59 <@Tone> Oh I thought you were looking for a zen ascension Mandevil 08:59 <@Webmant> 1 Zen Valk and 1 Zen Sam 08:59 ^^ nethack stud 08:59 <@Webmant> Using the official 3.6.0 conduct 09:00 @Webmant Can you point out which games were they: https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/W/Webmant.nh.html 09:00 and of course there were no dumplogs for 3.6.0 on nao 09:00 <@Webmant> The Sam was Wishless/Zen/Polyself/Polypile/Atheist/Boneless/Survivor/Weaponless/Genocideless 09:01 lol wtf 09:01 Stupid thing is that NAO didn't have dumplogs. 09:01 there is no spoon, yeah? 09:01 <@Webmant> I have a YAAP on whatever that NetHack group is 09:01 i can see the code... 09:01 <@Webmant> @Tone should have the link for it 09:01 <@Webmant> I made my own dumplog using the ttyrec 09:01 <@Webmant> By copy and pasting each relevant screen 09:01 nice 09:02 Hm... somehow it doesn't show. 09:02 Let's check 09:02 matrix conduct - ascend without breaking ANY conduct 09:02 K2: Oxymoron. 09:02 All Cretans are liars. 09:03 <@Tone> Yes I do have a link to that yaap somewhere 09:04 yeah hah 09:04 Mandevil: do you know if anyone has ever ascended without breaking any conduct? 09:06 ooh I found a raisse ghost! 09:06 @Webmant that list of conducts is very impressive 09:06 Tangles_: wiz or arc? 09:06 i am impressed by its impressiveness 09:06 I don't know yet. 09:07 "boneless" always cracks me up because it makes me think of chicken 09:07 hah 09:07 I only spotted it on the other side of the level with telepathy, because I tripped a magic trap which spawned 2 V-bats and 3 soldier ants. 09:07 So I probably won't get to find out. 09:07 eek soldier ants 09:08 <@Tone> K2 11 conducts in 343 is the most I remember ever seeing 09:08 I was going to say "that's probably what killed me too" but obviously not *those* soldier ants 09:08 <@Webmant> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/zen/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/Z9_F48AQz54 09:08 <@Webmant> There is my recgames post 09:08 lower mines. lit level. You seem to have 2 dwarfs, a gnome lord and a hill orc near you. 09:08 <@Webmant> With the dumplog included 09:09 <@Webmant> My Zen Valk that I did before the Zen Sam was the same conducts except no Weaponless if I recall correctly 09:09 raisse: You only really play on eu server, right? 09:09 iirc that's the one in which I killed the other 20 or so orcses 09:09 hmm doesnt load 09:09 raisse: yes, these days 09:09 @Webmant 09:09 good. that means the bones syncing between servers is sstill working :) 09:09 last time I played on nao must be last year 09:09 Tangles_ yeah it works great 09:09 and I've never played on the us server (at least not since we've got the eu one) 09:10 it catches new/updated variant folders as they are made 09:10 Yeah, I need to update my database views too. 09:10 <@Tone> Try this https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/Z9_F48AQz54 09:11 there we go 09:11 <@Webmant> Yeah, @Tone's link is better 09:11 -!- dewz_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:12 best i've ever pulled off was a 5, maybe 6 conduct ascension 09:12 but nothing like zen or nudist 09:12 nor pacifist 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:48049 09:13 i am not at that level. yet. 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:48058 09:13 <@Webmant> Ill prob never do Pacifist 09:13 * Tangles_ did 8 in 3.4.3 once, but I believe Mandevil has done 10. 09:13 <@Webmant> Too much of a hassle 09:13 and i dont think i could ever do a speedrun 09:13 i like to explore too much 09:13 I have done 10 once, yes. 09:13 <@Tone> I went for an easy 7 in junethack 2 years ago. Was doing fine until I reflexively bit a lizard corpse on the way back up with the amulet 😅 09:13 Tangles_ wow 09:13 But it was in 3.4.3 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:48068 09:14 <@Webmant> I never managed more than 9 iirc 09:14 <@Webmant> https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/trophies.html 09:14 <@Webmant> I got 9 for devnull 09:15 Yeah, you squashed my hope of getting 8 conduct monk. 09:15 <@Webmant> <3 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:40120 09:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:16 <@Webmant> I mean, I can probs do 10 conduct, but I feel like that would just involve a lot of deaths waiting for proper luck/bones 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48177 09:16 <@Webmant> But what do I know 09:16 <@Webmant> I was also considering 8 conduct Monk for devnull 09:16 @Webmant 10-conduct was fairly easy with farming. 09:16 <@Webmant> But I wanted to make it pretty difficult to beat 09:16 I did it in 6 attempts. 09:17 But with farming and alchemy nerf... I don't think I'm ever going to try again. 09:18 Modifying database views is such a hassle. 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48310 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed historic +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:48327 09:20 <@Tone> noodle: Throne wish? 😄 09:20 yay sleep resistance from an elf zombie! 09:20 <@Tone> nooodle I mean 09:21 <@Webmant> historic? 09:21 <@Tone> I think that's only used for statues 09:21 <@Tone> People like adding silly modifiers to wishes though 09:21 ....and levelported tot he bottom of the mines. Never did get to raisse's bones. 09:25 <@Webmant> does it actually show up for the gauntlets? 09:25 Excellent... "Drop view cascades to v_most_ascensions". 09:25 No freaking idea what is v_most_ascensions. 09:26 Hm, must be some relict. 09:27 Nothing seems to reference it. 09:29 <@Tone> @Webmant No I don't believe it does 09:31 rld: yes throne wish :) completely gratuitous 09:36 @Webmant OK, your games now show as zen: https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/W/Webmant.nh.html 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10813 09:37 <@Webmant> Nice 09:38 <@Webmant> Who added that feature? 09:38 In the scoreboard or in the game? 09:38 Tangles did 09:38 for livelog 09:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a triangular amulet named prob cursed on an altar, on T:3822 09:42 heh 09:42 was it, in dact cursed? 09:42 *fact 09:42 lol 09:42 indeed it was 09:43 YANI: Change "The scroll turns to dust as you pick it up" to use the scroll's called name or label. 09:47 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44910 10:01 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:11912 10:02 unihorn dipping 10:02 got a magic whistle though, so not all bad :) 10:03 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 10:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 10:04 oh how nice, dwarf in soko dropped a broad pick 10:05 aaand it was cursed 10:06 I'm going to try the eu server as I am currently getting slightly better pings there (than us) 10:07 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 10:07 hoping to find Poes the wonder-cat in some raisse bones 10:08 i got a poes this game! it's my second poes 10:09 Who knows Poes? 10:09 man all the cool people are getting a poes 10:09 Last game I ascended with Poes the balrog, Lv37 bad-ass with a +9 katana. 10:10 She was chopping up riders for me, right and centre (but not left, I only needed to visit 2 altars) 10:16 <@Tone> Level 37 Balrog, that's a lot of levels over max 😄 10:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8600 10:19 @tone many potions of gain level 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:45882 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53879 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53887 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:53899 10:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:54228 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54234 10:36 -!- oh6_ has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6_] by ChanServ 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:46654 10:36 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:36 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:46657 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:54796 10:40 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55247 10:50 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:56702 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56702 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56778 11:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:55836 11:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55837 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:56969 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:57010 11:13 [hdf-us] [slex] ttc1401 (Gol Ang Mal Neu), 24561 points, T:3823, quit 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47505 11:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:55941 11:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided class S, on T:55942 11:14 heh, I anticipate lots of bugs from being able to break a glass weapon while wielding it 11:14 hothraxxa is your game on 0.1.1 or 0.2.0? 11:14 i think its 0.1.1 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:57098 11:15 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:19 K2: shouldn't it be in the whereis file? 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57189 11:20 no whereis for 0.1.1 11:20 !whereis hothraxxa 11:20 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [xnh]: No details available 11:20 0.1.1 11:20 yeah, i think this is the last 0.1.1 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57208 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57246 11:23 would love a boh or thiefstone around now 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 historic dilithium crystals", on T:57248 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 greased dilithium crystals", on T:57250 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed dilithium crystals", on T:57250 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 corrodeproof dilithium crystals", on T:57251 11:24 oh, blessed +2 cloak of displacement in a non-bones level. I think some ranger dropped it. 11:24 you want to power a starship? 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 3883412 points, T:57252, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hypnotist/nh361/dumplog/1526314297.nh361.txt 11:24 wooo congrats nooodle 11:25 ty. third game in a row to get to the astral plane. first game of the three to ascend 11:25 grats nooodle! 11:25 and finally some E word conduct love for 3.6.1 11:25 decent list of conducts there 11:25 ah, yeah, not sure why they bother tracking that now 11:26 no E, no poly self, no genocide 11:26 because its still viable 11:26 from turn 1 11:26 nooodle, that is a HDF add-on 11:26 ^^ 11:26 ohhhh.... huh.... weird 11:26 nooodle, I never use E ever, so it is nice to get that tracked 11:26 same 11:27 got tired of waiting for devteam to include it 11:27 it only works like 10% of the time anyway, so if you're at the point where you're relying on elbereth, you're probably hosed anyway 11:27 beauty of open source 11:27 yeah, 3.6+ is a lot different to 3.4.3 because of E nerf 11:27 !asc hypnotist 11:27 nooodle: [hdf-us] hypnotist has ascended 6 times in 18 games (33.33%): nh361:6 (40.00%) 11:28 well you cant attack with impunity from it anymore, but it can still give you a breather, chance to heal if you're in a tight spot 11:28 it can't even give you a breather, since it only works like 10% of the time or less 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:56053 11:29 ya know what we should do, since NAO is retiring 3.4.3 at the end of this month 11:29 it's basically a worthless feature to even be in the game at all, just a curiosity now 11:29 is add e word conduct to 3.4.3 11:29 nooodle: it works like 73% of the time, what are you talking about 11:29 i'm talking about the truth 11:30 you engrave it, animals ignore it 11:30 virtually always 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48287 11:31 not on a successful engrave they shouldnt 11:31 Death rises from a short nap! 11:31 a "successful engrave" must happen randomly < 10% of the time then 11:31 it doesnt always engrave correctly, thats true 11:31 no 11:31 even if you then look down and see the word Elbereth engraved beneath you, animals still ignore it 11:31 This cookie has a scrap of paper inside. It reads: Don't bother wishing for things. You'll probably find one on the next level. <-- game is getting too real 11:31 hmm 11:32 well, animals respect it in xnh, and I sure haven't changed anything 11:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed historic partly eaten figurine of a woodchuck named carl", on T:56072 11:33 ooh mithril hard shoes, don't mind if I do 11:34 it used to be that you could engrave elbereth over and over also, keeping on adding to your engraving, and as long as there was one instance of "Elbereth" as a substring of the engraving, it would work 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2946245 points, T:56073, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1525641911.xnh.txt 11:34 well yeah, *that* changed 11:34 in 3.6.1 11:34 i've found now that it never, ever works unless the full string is equal to "Elbereth" 11:34 correct 11:34 well that's worthless then 11:34 it... works quite well for me 11:34 grats hothraxxa! 11:34 ty 11:34 when I need to scare something, dust E, boom, thing flees 11:35 i hope k2 noted mt final wish 11:35 my 11:35 * aosdict finds a mithril polearm as well 11:35 dust E, thing attacks you, dust E again, thing attacks you, look down, see the word Elbereth there, thing attacks you again 11:35 that should not happen and if you can prove it happens it's a bug 11:35 i love you hothraxxa 11:36 congrats! 11:36 ok, i'll get to a point where it happens and then file a bug 11:36 * hothraxxa smooches k2 11:36 K2 hothraxxa get a room guys 11:37 no worries 11:37 we're already done 11:37 wow, tht was quick! 11:38 short too 11:39 they dont call me a tiger for 20 sec for nothing 11:39 rawr 11:42 meow? 11:42 :) 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] lichenchow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:22, killed by a dart 11:45 ah nice got the gnomish sewer, this should be fun 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:48338 11:47 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:51 fuck me, orctown AGAIN! 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh361] lichenchow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 208 points, T:1315, killed by a newt 11:59 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 12:10 -!- dewz has left #hardfought 12:12 <@Tone> 'grats nooodle, hothraxxa 😄 12:12 <@Tone> nooodle: you died on Astral twice recently? :( 12:13 <@Tone> Also I find Elbereth to be extremely useful in 361 12:14 <@Tone> I used it often in 360 but it is really powerful now 12:15 <@Tone> Somewhat related, didn't they fix the monsters fleeing code in 361? 12:15 <@Tone> I scared a vampire lord with magic bane the other day and it just attacked me 12:15 <@Tone> Was in a wide open room so he had a lot of fleeing options 12:16 <@Tone> Not sure if I'm forgetting any reasons he might not have fled 12:22 hi 12:22 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 12:25 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1740 points, T:174, poisoned by a scorpion 12:33 rld, maybe the vampire was also confused/stunned? can that make it attack? 12:34 you mean @Tone, not rld 12:35 <@Tone> Oh that's a good point nooodle 12:35 <@Tone> It probably could 12:36 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 35443 points, T:2848, killed by a soldier ant 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51425 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51425 13:19 jonadab: I'm enjoying traversing the Sewer in a real game. 13:19 Once I got rid of the electric eel, that is. 13:21 YANI: Sewer rats should be able to swim. 13:24 Actually, rats are very good swimmers, IRL. 13:24 So perhaps all rats? 13:24 Then again, horses are reasonably good swimmers as well. Albeit, not when mounted. 13:24 And dogs _can_ swim. 13:25 I think in order to model real-world animal swimming ability correctly, we'd need each monster to have a swimming speed distinct from its on-land speed. At minimum. 13:25 Each permonst, I mean. 13:25 Crap, I messed up the gnomish sewer map - there's still part of it that's unreachable without crossing water 13:25 (Living _in_ the water, like a fish, could remain a flag.) 13:26 aosdict: That's hard to avoid when making anything that looks realistic, without shallow water. 13:26 I can understand why not all variants want shallow water. It has significant balance implications. 13:26 jonadab: Well, I did do it, except I missed this one spot. 13:26 Among other things, it removes the "you only have so many fountains" pressure on dipping, if you don't want to risk jumping into (deep) water. 13:27 aosdict: Ah. 13:27 Ok, yeah, with shallow water, this is not such a problem. 13:39 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:40 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:41 -!- dewz has joined #hardfought 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53292 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53298 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 55632 points, T:8960, killed by a captain 13:58 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 13:59 hm, all 4 riding boots are cursed? what could they possibly be... 14:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:07 -!- riker has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:08 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 14:09 <[Demo]> speed boots 14:10 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53575 14:16 ugh finding more disconnects in the gnomish sewer 14:29 -!- Zanzabar has joined #hardfought 14:32 <[Demo]> heh thought that said server not sewer 14:32 <[Demo]> and im like damn, ud think gnomes could run a decent server 14:33 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54115 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54120 14:37 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37 Trying to setup curses with these settings so I can have some of the custom items such as messages at the top inventory to the right etc. However the boarders are just letters and don't look like the options shown here. 14:37 How I want it to look 14:37 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2486/source 14:38 Added these curses settings: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nh361/Tangles.nh361rc 14:38 Do I need to use a different kind of character settings? 14:38 From within Putty? 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] Zanza (Val Hum Fem Law), 142 points, T:1056, killed by a magic missile 14:43 <@Tone> Zanzabar I haven't used curses before, but have you tried both DEC and IBM graphics? 14:43 <[Demo]> curses is harmful 14:43 <@Tone> In your nethack config 14:43 Why is it harmful? 14:43 I haven't tried either of the DEC or IBM graphic 14:43 <[Demo]> because its funny to call it harmful 14:44 rld, Interestig the example did have it in there. Maybe because it was a unix machine config file not a putty config file? 14:44 Demo__, you funny 14:46 <@Tone> Maybe, I've never messed with the graphics setting much and I don't have a great understanding about how terminals display things 😅 14:46 <@Tone> Are your walls broken too? 14:47 Ya seems everything is a little off 14:47 which makes me think you are right and I need to change the settings to be IBM or something similar 14:47 Trying to figure out how right now 14:47 <@Tone> OPTIONS=IBMgraphics should work iirc 14:48 Oh ok thanks 14:48 <@Tone> But that's sort of a legacy option and 361 uses symset now I think 14:48 I was thinking it was something to do with Symset or so I was thinking 14:48 <@Winsalot> ffs Just got killed while playing as OP character 14:48 @Winsalot: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-14 04:26 EDT: sorry, the bug will persist on older saves making magic chests unusable for saves where this bug occured, but it will not happen in the future 14:48 <@Winsalot> feels bad man 14:50 <@Tone> :( 14:51 Zanzabar: that screenshot was made by me. here are my curses settings (top of the cfg) - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/k2.nh361rc 14:51 K2, Awesome thank you I will check this out 14:52 I just figured out how to set Symset when you wrote that 14:52 ;) 14:52 What sime terminal did you use? 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54598 14:53 i use puttytray (like putty but with a few extra features 14:53 ) 14:54 oh size terminal? 14:54 I mean size, rows columns 14:54 120x32 14:54 just like the settings in the cfg 14:54 not sure how I managed to switch a z with an m on keyboard by accident 14:54 heh 14:54 its because you have my typing skills 14:55 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 14:55 Huh still getting X and q and what not for my borders 14:55 it's -1 for using a poisoned weapon for lawfuls, rihgt? 14:55 non-knight/sam 14:55 Goign to delete my entire RC file and start over 14:55 i use ibmgraphics symset 14:56 so translation in putty needs to be CP437 not utf-8 14:56 -!- dewz has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:56 Charsets that aren't either us-ascii or utf-8 should die in a fire. 14:56 dont hate 14:56 * K2 loves CP437 14:56 <[Demo]> i agree with jonadab 14:56 also, how does one unpoison a weapon 14:56 (And yes, I know utf-8 is not strictly speaking a charset... but you know what I mean.) 14:56 yes 14:57 riker i think you have to use it 14:57 There we go I had a feeling it was going to be some putty settings that needed to be adjusted 14:57 K2: damnit 14:57 Ought to be able to unpoison a weapon by dipping in water. Theoretically. 14:57 Haven't tried it, though. 14:57 or burn it 14:57 since I've just slaughtered a thrown room with this and my alignmnt has to be like -40 by now 14:57 oh thank god it's off 14:57 Oh, that only matters if it's Fourk. 14:57 Otherwise, your alignment is probably still pious. 14:57 pfft alignment shlignment 14:57 K2, thanks for the help. This should get this moving along for me 14:58 np Zanzabar anytime 14:58 Now I jsut need to remember how to play basically 14:58 ahhh heh 14:58 (Or, in FIQHack, will be pious after you play a few more levels.) 14:58 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:58 jonadab: I got a ridiculous about of "evil cowards" though... 14:59 riker: I once cleared out three large sleeping-leprechaun halls in a row, as a knight, mostly one-shotting them, and was still pious. In 3.4 14:59 uh ok 14:59 I mean, if in doubt, you can use a stethoscope or probing on yourself, or enlightenment, to check. 15:00 But it is _amazing_ how many alignment points NetHack hands out just for playing normally. 15:00 It's difficult to overstate (though I once managed, by claiming that it if weren't capped, players would probably get MAXINT; this is an exaggeration). 15:01 have none of those but I will check later 15:01 actually my issue isn't with alignment probably 15:01 <@Winsalot> jonadab: I think I know what my next ascension role will be (trourist). Convince me to do it in 4k instead of fiqhack ;) 15:01 it's with dnh's alignment kops 15:02 I don't konw if they apply to general alignment or just role-specifc (monk meat, knight vs sleeping things) 15:02 I'm hoping only ^ 15:02 @Winsalot: Fourk rebalances ammo break rates, in a way that results in Tourists being able to use darts a lot more. 15:03 Also, Tourist is my favorite role. 15:03 have fun with 4k alignment record hell 15:03 <@Winsalot> Mh, Im not really a fan of ranged. I find tourists indresting because they have good melee and magic skills 15:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15279 15:03 Right, Tourists are still pretty versatile in Fourk. 15:03 it was in the most inaccessible part of the sewer 15:03 The one thing they can't do, that they can in 3.4, is multi-fire daggers. 15:03 <@Winsalot> However, 4k has no spell maintenance, which is a problem from my perspective 15:04 Oh, true. 15:04 Spell maint is waiting for rebase. 15:04 Because I don't trust myself to merge it. 15:04 (I'd try, if I weren't planning to rebase anyway; but I am.) 15:05 <@Winsalot> However, 4k has no spell maintenance, which is a problem from my perspective 15:05 How about this: Gehennom is way less boring in Fourk. 15:05 _go play dnh it has great gehennom_ 15:05 <@Winsalot> At least make it exercise skills as you implement it. Dont ble lasy like FIQ :) 15:05 <@Winsalot> Lazy* 15:05 Make what exercise skills? 15:06 <@Winsalot> Spell maintenance 15:06 <[Demo]> how do u enhance? 15:06 Oh, I'm not planning to implement that independently. I'll just get it for free when I rebase. 15:06 riker: There are all these people in #nethack saying "ooh widemazes! gehennom is really better now!" and I just sit here going "... there's so much better than that" 15:06 <[Demo]> wait how do u rebase without shit breaking? 15:07 <[Demo]> if i wanted to rebase ndnh on the latest version of dnh would i have to do a lot of work and cry a bunch? 15:07 aosdict: Heh, Fourk had widemazes Gehennom in version 4.3.0.1, I think. 15:07 I tossed it in favor of aiscav. 15:07 <@Winsalot> Oh, so 4k gonna be rebased? I misunderstood. Is it gonna be FourIQhack? :) 15:07 Then I improved aiscav. 15:07 @Winsalot It's gonna be FourQ, or somesuch. 15:07 Eventually. 15:08 @Winsalot it's going to be merged with fiqhack and also Brogue and become Brogue Fourq. jonadab has released the plans for this stunning new variant already. 15:08 <@Webmant> widemazes makes gehemmon just a tad more bearable lmao 15:08 <@Webmant> but still crap 15:08 widemazes are barely any change at all compared to what I did to Gehennom. 15:08 Actually, Fourk still has widemazes; they occur between Medusa and Castle. 15:09 aosdict: indeed, excluding dnh's demogorgon 15:11 <@Winsalot> FIQ: since you were asking about what I like in slex, I remembered that I also enjoyed its crazy sokoban. Like levels with messed up order or level with 150 boulders, opulent throne and shop really spie up the game. 15:11 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:11 -!- Zanzabar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:13 ok, yeah, poisoned weapons as lwafuls _does_ aggravate teh dnh kops 15:13 I'm so fucked 15:13 <[Demo]> im so conflicted about dnh K 15:13 <[Demo]> like part of me wants to nerf in in ndnh 15:14 <@Winsalot> Btw, is it just me or is autoexplore in 4k dumber than in FIQhack? Feel in 4k if my character runs into door while autoexploring it immediately goes opposite direction. While in FIQhack it either goes through door or stops 15:14 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:15 [Demo]: fucking do it 15:15 I just got killed by them, indirectly 15:15 one read create monster, which spawned a swamp fern 15:15 and I didn't have anything to cure ill 15:15 <[Demo]> idk 15:15 <[Demo]> they really do a good job enforcing conducts 15:15 nerf speed maybe? 15:16 [Demo]: yeah, but so does slex. enforcing conucts well doesn't mean they're not dumb 15:16 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:16 <[Demo]> slex doesnt do anything specifc 15:16 <[Demo]> random shit happens to you 15:16 <[Demo]> and you react 15:17 <[Demo]> but yeah some conducts r dumb and some arent 15:17 no, it does re: conducts 15:17 iirc it gives random nasty effcets 15:17 and those suck ass 15:17 <[Demo]> oh i meant slex in general 15:17 ah 15:17 <[Demo]> like so much other random shit is happening that nothing individual that happens is relevant 15:17 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:17 <[Demo]> each game is its own uniqe dumpster fire 15:18 I mean tariru ascended wihtout the ability to have free action 15:18 sooo 15:19 <[Demo]> tariru isnt human 15:19 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 15:19 <[Demo]> tariru ascended super long slex 15:20 <[Demo]> thats automatic evidence of a lack of mortality 15:23 I'm actually most impressed because of slashem's free action buff 15:23 preventing amnesia nad grab attacks, I would have expected that to be game-ending 15:27 -!- riker has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:30 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55446 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:55566 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55567 15:33 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 15:40 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 15:43 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] TLar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Set, on T:29745 15:46 <[Demo]> and tentacle suck heading 15:51 augh why did I make speed monster wands grant temporary speed 15:52 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 15:55 <[Demo]> cause u hate the world and wanna see it burn? 15:55 hah aosdict 15:55 feel the pain 15:56 aosdict, try praying to your god and they might gift you perma-speed 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56002 16:15 Grasshopper: Well, the speed wand grants temporary very fast speed. 16:15 aosdict, nice 16:16 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19 <[Demo]> dnh does that too 16:19 I don't mind the temporary speed. I felt like perma-speed was a bit too overpowering. 16:19 It'd be nice if those types of wands generated with 50 charges or something 16:19 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:19 <[Demo]> 50 is very large 16:19 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 16:19 <[Demo]> maybe make it a secret door detection type count instead? 16:22 yeah it was just a nasty shock to feel myself slowing down 16:22 !ping 16:22 aosdict: Pong! 16:22 <[Demo]> you oughta play more dnh 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:34239 16:27 Thanks Thoth! 16:27 Crom is where it's at, tho 16:29 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 16:34 -!- mahershalal has joined #hardfought 16:35 hi! I've got a question about using curses in nethack on the server, can anybody help me? 16:35 yes 16:36 it's drawing the borders incorrectly 16:36 I've enabled it in the options-file, and everything seems to be working, but the borders are made up of letters instead of lines 16:36 can't help with that 16:36 Tangles: ^ 16:37 ): 16:37 or maybe K2 16:37 I think I saw someone else have this problem 16:37 but I myself don't play with curses 16:37 ah ok 16:38 mahershalal whats goin on? 16:38 oh i see 16:38 are you using putty on windows? 16:38 sounds like a translation issue 16:39 yes, i've added OPTIONS=windowtype:curses to the option file, that should do it right? 16:39 partially 16:39 have a look - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/k2.nh361rc 16:39 ah 16:39 those are my curses settings. set your terminal for the same dimensions 16:39 if you use ibmgraphics, you need to use CP437 instead of utf-8 16:40 uhm, how can I find out what i'm using? 16:40 and i'm not 100% certain, but I am not sure what character sets play nice with curses for 3.6.1 16:40 what os are you on? 16:40 win10 16:41 what are you using to access the server? putty? 16:41 yes putty 16:41 ok great 16:41 one sec 16:41 :) 16:41 under the window section, set col and rows to match whats in your cfg 16:41 under translation, try cp437 16:41 (what is it right now?) 16:42 there's nothing about that in the option file 16:45 i'm talking about putty 16:45 ah sorry, will check 16:46 ;) 16:47 wow, that worked! 16:48 thanks 16:48 welcome! 16:48 YANI: Confused scroll of magic mapping tells you where a certain special level or branch entrance is on the main branch, which you haven't visited yet. If you've visited everything, it prints some message about the DL 1 stairs. 16:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:52 using curses for 3.6.1 what's the permanent inventory display option? 16:52 OPTIONS=perm_invent 16:53 hm. didn't i try that? 16:53 yeah, that's not working for me 16:53 hm 16:54 wait, i'm actually using splicehack, maybe he hasn't pulled that over yet 16:54 * hothraxxa prods k2 with a wand of enlightenment 16:55 you sometimes have to set it to tru ein game for it to stick 16:55 true 16:55 i think Tangles said there were some minor issues with perm_invent still 16:55 ah let me try that 16:56 ok off to get mini-me. be back in a bit 16:56 it was false, now it's true, getting no lov e 16:56 ah well not a big deal 16:56 save game and reload 16:57 and i believe splicehack has all of the commits for curses that 361-hdf has 16:57 as does xnethack 16:57 ok cya in a bit 16:57 thanks, that worked 16:58 \o/ 16:59 @Winsalot your reasons for liking slex tends to be reasons I dislike slex 17:01 jonadab: Gehennom is also less boring in fh 17:01 special rooms 17:01 thanks aosdict 17:01 much less maze-y 17:02 <@luxidream> !tell shpingrlde get in the ootc discord chat 17:02 Will do, @luxidream! 17:03 wait, is Junethack Registration Center open? 17:05 my kingdom for a boh. or an altar. or something that will protect me from poly traps. 17:05 * aosdict finds an altar in the next room 17:05 <@luxidream> Still no. Just want to make sure he’s on board 17:06 <@luxidream> SPL? 17:06 SpliceHack 17:08 <@luxidream> ah, is this statuesurfer’s variant 17:08 no 17:08 <@luxidream> I remember him talking about furnaces 17:08 AntiGulp's 17:08 <[Demo]> samehack 17:08 statuesurfer was talking about ovens (much the same) 17:09 statuesurfer was also basically trying to make homestuck+nethack which... ehh? 17:09 <@luxidream> lmao 17:10 <@luxidream> I guess there could be worse crossovers 17:11 <@luxidream> Is there a change log? 17:11 for splicehack? yes 17:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:20285 17:15 Well, then! 17:15 that certainly beats my +2 elven dagger 17:18 <@luxidream> this looks fun 17:18 <@luxidream> though I’m not good at kitchen sink variants 17:18 I wish splicehack's changelog or at least its commit messages were a bit more descriptive 17:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:20466 17:19 <@luxidream> like gambling with demon lords? 17:20 no thanks Kos, can I send it to your returns department and exchange it for some luck? 17:23 <@luxidream> It’d be nice to have a spoiler on what half of these new items do 17:26 -!- mahershalal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27 Exactly! 17:28 <@luxidream> luckless folly seems pretty broken 17:28 But there's no way to see what stuff does except by going through the code. (I did this, because I was looking to see if any of it were good to put into xnh. So I might be able to answer your questions.) 17:29 <@luxidream> gains to-hit and damage based on how negative your luck is 17:29 right, so if you're willing to walk around with -13 luck, you can have a +20ish weapon. 17:30 <@luxidream> I mean, the main purpose of luck is to hit 17:30 Well that's not the *intended* main purpose of luck 17:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 385 points, T:1446, killed by a hobbit 17:32 <@luxidream> unless there are more luck-based hazards in splhack, the worst consequence of low luck is inventory damage 17:32 bah. direct consequence of losing my pet 17:32 no idea what happened to it 17:34 bah the lag monsters are acting up again 17:34 <@luxidream> What does the deck of fate do? Is it a deck of many things? 17:34 @luxidream it has some very good effects, some very bad effects, and a few meh effects. 17:34 <@luxidream> So that’s a yes 17:35 I think it's currently still broken since you can "draw" the whole deck... 17:35 * Grasshopper muahahaha I am the lag monster and I've come to devour your bandwidth aosdict hahahaha 17:35 oh wait, that was fixed 17:35 The lag monster hits! Your bandwith decreases! 17:36 that is a *must have* monster for slex 17:36 I just added it to the bogusmons list 17:37 you can defeat it with lots of fibre-optic cable and if you have enough internet relay points 17:39 "Dewzmint, killed by a knife" 17:39 bones in lower mines 17:40 includes free Grayswandir! But I'm a wiz with no sabre skillz 17:40 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:40 <@luxidream> don’t let that stop you 17:40 cmon Thoth, gift me some Werebane! 17:44 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 17:45 why werebane? 17:49 oh6, to unrestrict saber skill for wiz 17:52 aha 17:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:21059 17:52 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:58 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 18:01 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:07 my dead bot is back 18:08 hi dead bot 18:10 SpliceHack updated (us and eu) 18:11 long live the bot 18:19 <[Demo]> terminate it 18:20 <[Demo]> ive decided im gonna read a ccna official cert guide cover to cover and take the exam in a week 18:24 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 19267 points, T:1021, killed by a gnome queen 18:28 [hdf-us] [fh] Mo (sk1j) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 10900 points, T:743, killed by a jackal 18:32 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 18:41 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 55902 points, T:12056, quit 18:42 [hdf-us] [fh] mtf (Pri Hum Mal Law), 113100 points, T:33741, quit 18:46 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 28947 points, T:1982, killed by a soldier ant 18:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:39552 18:51 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 19361 points, T:1302, killed by a gnome, in explore mode 18:52 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Dra Ang Mal Law), 166 points, T:1172, killed by a magic missile 18:59 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 19:02 -!- Menche has quit [Client Quit] 19:06 -!- hothraxxa_ has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:08 -!- hothraxxa_ is now known as hothraxxa 19:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 19:11 !ping 19:11 Grassy: Pong! 19:11 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:13 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 29876 points, T:1262, killed by a soldier ant 19:15 <@mtf> Anybody here remember how to active fiqhack's replay mode? 19:16 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 19:16 aosdict: you asked about eclipse moon axes a while ago I think? 19:16 !pom 19:16 riker: The moon is new for 3 more days. 19:17 I just found one, I'm fairly certain it's for new moons 19:20 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 19:28 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 19:34 -!- riker has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:39 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 36726 points, T:3466, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 19:44 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 19:47 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9096 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:56863 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:57052 20:00 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:57066 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Pri Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed figurine of a hobgoblin named atheism sux lol on an altar, on T:9833 20:11 <[Demo]> sinner 20:14 pff 20:14 when you become aware of livelogging... 20:22 :) 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:57089 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:57103 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1736626 points, T:57133, killed by invisible Pestilence (with the Amulet) 20:29 <@rikersan> RIP 20:30 <@Tone> 😦 20:30 <@Tone> !lastgame Eleven 20:30 @Tone: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Eleven/nh361/dumplog/1526212216.nh361.txt 20:37 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 677 points, T:1802, killed by a boiling potion 21:00 thanks magic trap 21:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:08 !asc k2 21:08 PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 has ascended 34 times in 1209 games (2.81%): sp:2 (0.62%), nh361:3 (7.50%), nh4:3 (7.14%), dyn:1 (9.09%), un:5 (3.82%), 4k:1 (2.33%), nh343:1 (1.54%), fh:1 (6.67%), xnh:8 (17.39%), gh:9 (2.16%) 21:08 PavelB: [hdf-eu] k2 has not ascended in 33 games. 21:08 what a lovely rainbow 21:17 heh 21:25 that's all of them except splicehack, yes? 21:26 and dnethack 21:26 and slex 21:27 you prob wont ever see slex on my asc list 21:27 dnethack i came close once 21:27 <[Demo]> I'm gonna ascend a lot in june 21:27 <[Demo]> ootc will burn and die 21:33 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Dra Ang Fem Law), 711 points, T:2425, killed by a bolt of cold 21:34 lol fucking gnomes with horn of frost 21:51 -!- tacco| has quit [] 22:00 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:03 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 10170 points, T:173, quit 22:07 [hdf-us] [spl] k2 (Dra Ang Mal Law), 1570 points, T:2661, killed by a bolt of cold 22:12 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *poof*] 22:14 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:21 K2: so which variant would you say is your favorite? 22:21 grunthack 22:22 i mean i like pretty much all of them 22:22 Mm, don't know anyone about grunt other than that it's supposedly super hard 22:22 but grunthack is so evil 22:22 i actually think sporkhack is harder 22:23 but in more subtle ways 22:23 I want to try one of the NH4 based ones but the NH4 interface is completely fucked on my terminal. 22:23 weird 22:23 I wish I had draw_rock in xnh 22:23 nh4 was supposed to make it easier to display on a wide variety of terminals i thought 22:23 The colors are all super messed up 22:24 did you try changing the palette setting in the in game settings? 22:24 I did 22:24 hmm 22:24 They just got super messed up in other ways :P 22:24 heh 22:24 I think it's more the fault of my terminal color scheme than nh4 22:25 I made a new one special l specifically for nh, I should try nh4 again 22:25 *words 22:26 alright... i am going to bed early. only got 3 hrs sleep last night 22:26 Oof 22:26 yeah 22:26 That sucks. Have a nice sleep! 22:26 gnite ! 22:26 o/ 22:30 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 22:30 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 22:50 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 23:13 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:20 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 23:22 I tried to implement a draw_rock option for xnh 23:22 Guys 23:22 C is hard 23:23 Yes. 23:24 All my development effort today has gone into making sure glass stuff breaks sanely and in a way that won't crash or impossible() everywhere. 23:24 I will merge draw_rock if you complete a patch for it though 23:25 It feels like it shouldn't be so hard, since it's just another tile type, but it is. 23:26 I'll take a look at how nh4 does it 23:26 Well, for one, it would only work in some symsets, right? 23:26 ASCII couldn't do it. 23:26 I'm only targeting curses here 23:26 Ah. 23:27 Even so. 23:27 If I actually get it working, I'll take a look at tty 23:27 Is ~ used for anything? 23:28 Not in vanilla, but I use it for water and lava. 23:28 I = me personally, not all of xnh. 23:38 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:53 -!- khoR_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought