00:00 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:01 I just discovered this IRC client called *IRC Cloud* and it's like the best thing ever 00:02 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 00:03 ... wow 00:04 Some monster used a scroll and now I'm stuck in a room via iron bars :D 00:04 And have a pet 00:04 PavelB: You should chat about it with dtype. 00:04 So teleporting past it isn't a good option 00:04 irccloud! 00:05 PavelB: (see my client) 00:05 for like 2 years 00:05 \o/ 00:05 dtype made me use it a couple times 00:06 its my go to backup irc client i use on my phone 00:06 There's a feature where you can set your profile pic 00:06 there's this thing called znc 00:06 I think that even among people using IRCCloud less than half even have that enabled 00:06 I want an IRC client where I can set profile pics for everyone else. 00:07 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 00:08 I haven't encountered anyone else with a profile pic yet 00:09 irccloud nice thing is the paid feature of proxy 00:09 also a nice phone client for alerts 00:09 similar to znc, but just easier 00:09 Also, it saves logs. 00:09 and phone client is better 00:10 If you disconnect from the internet, and then join later, you'll get the messages you missed 00:10 Tangles Are you averse to me merging the hardfought changes into splicehack? Obviously attributed. 00:10 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-12 13:18 EDT: thanks for letting me know. The splicetips file is now in the correct place on the server 00:10 AntiGulp: Eh, I'm doing it. 00:11 For Splicehack? Do you work on that too? 00:11 i think antigulp == splicehack 00:11 Yeah basically 00:12 I just wrote a quick patch to track Elbereth that was incorporated 00:12 * K2 uses znc 00:12 * K2 loves znc 00:13 AntiGulp go for it 00:13 I linked the repo on the reddit post for a reason ;) 00:13 Thanks! 00:13 I looked at a couple screenshots of ZNC and it looks ugly af 00:13 Yes! AntiGulp please do :) 00:13 :D 00:14 * AntiGulp rolls up sleeves and begins fighting merge conflicts 00:14 PavelB: don't let these bigots sway you. irccloud ftw. 00:14 PavelB I dont use znc for the webgui 00:14 AntiGulp: Curses was actually pretty easy. Whereis was harder. 00:14 lol 00:15 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:16 dtype: Do you use the desktop client or the browser one? 00:16 aosdict: That's the sense I'm getting. Curses merged flawlessly, everything else is being... somewhat less cooperative. 00:16 PavelB: i spend most of my time in browser one. but phone is also always logged in for notifications 00:16 In the case of whereis, it was because the main commit contained install-to-chroot.sh changes that don't exist outside of hardfought repos. 00:17 I use https://github.com/irccloud/irccloud-desktop 00:20 aosdict: Is the install-to-chroot.sh file even necessary? 00:20 (outside of hardfought) 00:20 It's part of hardfought's custom build system, so no. 00:21 K2: pushed curses interface :D 00:21 nice 00:21 was about to type that i had updated xnh but lemme run it again ;) 00:21 was testing to make sure whereis was working (it is) 00:21 then i'll need to tweak beholder... maybe 00:22 may have already made some assumptions for both xnethack and splicehack on the whereis path once it became available 00:22 aosdict: \o/ glad to hear it 00:22 Now I just need a decent xnethackrc 00:23 xnh whereis is in VARDIR where it should be 00:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23 error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge: 00:23 sys/unix/hints/linux 00:23 Dammit 00:23 Ugh my old foe "files.c compilation errors" has decided to rear its ugly head again. 00:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:24 I hate files.c 00:25 -!- greqrg_ has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 00:25 I also dislike a lot of the way nethack handles data files. It would kill you to just have a bogusmon.txt instead of having to compile it into a non-text "bogusmon" data file? 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] dtype (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1582 points, T:3020, killed by a bat 00:26 aosdict: Would it be possible to read YACC from an environment variable, so I can `export YACC='bison -y'`, instead of only `Makefile.utl`, where I have to keep editing the file? 00:27 It breaks git merging when there are updates occasionally, so I can't just do it the one time. 00:28 aosdict: I completely agree. Files.c is a nightmare to deal with sometimes. 00:32 PavelB: I thought adding a YACC = in the hints file would work, but evidently not. 00:32 Either way, I have to edit a file that breaks git merge 00:33 I don't really think the Makefiles or hints files are _supposed_ to be touched that often. 00:34 they shouldnt 00:34 So the fact that you keep having to do this may just be because it's rather volatile at the moment with these recent changes. 00:34 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 00:34 ^^ includes curses UI 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1954 points, T:2030, killed by a giant ant 00:35 Anyone have a good curses nethackrc I could borrow? 00:36 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nh361/Tangles.nh361rc 00:36 ty 00:36 or https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nh361/k2.nh361rc 00:37 i think i included the term_cols and term_rows options in mine 00:38 !who 00:38 K2: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] ChiefGreyBush [xnh] 00:38 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 00:38 !whereis chiefgreybush 00:38 K2: [hdf-us] ChiefGreyBush [xnh]: (Rog Hum Mal Cha) T:2 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:38 K2: [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush [xnh]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:6 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:38 woo 00:38 nice, beholder already set 00:38 Nice! 00:38 splicehack prob will be also 00:38 ok I'm collapsing from exhaustion, taking a nap, see ya 00:38 see ya aosdict 00:39 later aosdict! 00:39 o/ 00:39 Thanks much! 00:39 ooh a linker error 00:40 That's... fun 00:44 Hmmmmmmmm. curses_procs and curses_read_attrs seem to be causing me symbols not found errors. 00:44 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 00:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 After enabling curses, I can't seem to quit the game following DYWYPI 00:49 keep hitting enter 00:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:49 Oh yeah that worked 00:49 I wonder why it got stuck 00:49 the issue is that he UI doesnt fit your terminal 00:49 AntiGulp: you need to rerun setup.sh to get the latest makefiles. 00:50 use term_cols and term_rows setting to match your terminal windows settings 00:50 PavelB go larger than the usual 80x24 if you want to see the inventory and chat windows 00:50 Tangles: Ah, thank you! I also forgot that I'm on osx, so I have to update the hints file for that as well as linux. 00:51 ah yeah ok 00:51 I did do that 00:51 OPTIONS=term_cols:157 00:51 OPTIONS=term_rows:40 00:51 and you start your terminal session with same settings? 00:52 That's what `tput cols` and `tput lines` reports 00:52 PavelB: the rows/cols settings _should_ not be necessary for curses 00:52 I'll try commenting it out then 00:53 Now I just need to find something to kill me to test 00:54 Seems to work now 00:54 Cool 00:54 nice :) 00:55 Oof. It compiles, but spits out a huge number of warnings. I think I've been compiling with a different version of C / gcc. 00:55 K2: yes on what you said on wiki forum. let's just figure that out. 00:55 "No rule for make install" Excuse me nethack but why 00:55 !tell aosdict The ascii-art splashscreen with the Curses interface says NetHack and not xNetHack, 0/10 pls fix 00:55 Will do, PavelB! 00:55 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8HzxE7LV/ 00:56 Ah yes... more variants... more splashscreens. 00:56 Tangles: you may be getting 343 savegames soon. heh 00:57 need to think this through still, but not sure I see a downside 00:57 dtype: roughly how many? 00:57 i mean, is either one by one..... 00:58 or all 00:58 might as well grab em all 00:58 all is probably a few thousand 00:58 how many is all 00:58 ah 00:58 weeeeee 00:58 like you said before the username mapping will be the tricky part, but hopefully most people will have the same name. 00:59 or just a manual script process of claiming it 00:59 plus hdf only has about 800 or so registered users... NAO has how many? over 100k? 00:59 if their account doesnt exist, they can just register, if it matches the save, they're good to go 01:00 !tell aosdict Here, I made you a splashscreen: https://gist.github.com/pavelbraginskiy/c0dd0912bf1a2ea7c2d3fc42681b1db4 01:00 Will do, PavelB! 01:00 Tangles: also assumes binary compatibility, but true on a 343-nao modern linux compilation 01:01 our 343-nao build is from nao 01:01 anyway, can work it out, if you want to be the transfer point for these 01:01 on ubuntu server 16.04 x64 01:01 sure 01:02 we dont want to do this until after the 31stthough i imagine 01:02 some ppl will try to play out their saves before june 1st 01:03 -!- PavelB has quit [] 01:03 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 01:03 yeah 01:04 this is only post-cutover 01:05 So glad to have `perm_invent` 01:05 * Menche wonders why the removal of 343-nao is so urgent 01:06 where did my wizard go? 01:06 raisse 01:06 Menche: isn't *urgent*. That release died 2.5 years ago. ;) 01:06 the 361-hdf beta went live 01:06 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 01:06 and it zapped all the savegames? 01:07 in order to not lose regular 361 games, any of those saves will be played out first 01:07 that was an ascendable gnome wiz on the last leg in soko 01:07 then once complete, goes back to the 361-hdf game 01:07 no saves were lost 01:07 i posted this in the teamsplat channel awhile ago 01:07 when I wasn't online, I suppose 01:08 evil twin is there i think 01:08 oh right but I can't access that account right now because spouse changed the port and didn't tell me to what 01:08 ahhh 01:09 gotcha 01:09 (and now he's not up yet, I'm not going to rouse him for that) 01:09 long story short - no saves are lost 01:09 okay *whew* but how/when do I get it back 01:09 wait until *everybody* has finished their 3.6.1. games? 01:09 once this 361 regular game is complete (die/ascend/quit/etc) 01:10 your game, not everyone 01:10 but how? 'v' goes to 'choose a new character for 3.6.1-hdf 01:11 so I have no game to "complete" 01:11 one sec 01:11 unless I should start a character and kill or quit it (or even ascend it but that seems excessive) 01:13 no dont do that 01:13 do me a favor, exit out of dgl for a quick min 01:13 i see your save 01:13 yay! it exists! 01:14 not that I should be playing nethack right now :-) 01:14 ok feel free to login and load it up please 01:15 no, that's my 3.6.1-hdf game 01:15 not the wiz 01:15 oh ok i see 01:15 save that please 01:15 then the wiz is probably lost :-( 01:15 it should load the older one first 01:15 done 01:15 ok one sec 01:16 logged out again 01:16 ok 01:16 I don't care about that arc (the one I just loaded), was only a testing char 01:16 so i see your 361 vanilla game save 01:16 hmm i wonder... 01:17 yup ok i see 01:17 one sec 01:17 serves me right for going off and playing something else instead of just meekly astral-splatting 01:18 oh yeah I remember this game... the one with all the Rodney kills :) 01:18 good luck! :) 01:18 yes, spamming the channel with my attempt to extinct Rodneys 01:18 ok raisse should be all set now 01:19 no, still got the arc 01:19 I appear to have everything working except for whereis file writing. I'm going to sleep and look at this later. 01:19 shall I log in and quit that? 01:19 (or just get going until she dies of natural causes) 01:19 keep going, I mean 01:19 when you login next and load 361 it should be your older 361 vanilla game 01:19 no, STILL got the arc 01:20 hmm what am i missing 01:20 Why does HALLU last for so long ;-; 01:20 twice over, logged out between times 01:20 ok raisse log out one more time please i see what i did 01:20 K2: don't break your head over it, it's just a game 01:20 I can't log out, I'm logged out already 01:20 the eu server is special and requires a / where hdf-us does not 01:21 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:21 don't bother, I'll get over it, I'll just handle it as a server-move casualty 01:21 ok NOW try please 01:22 if that doesn't work you can stop trying 01:22 boom 01:22 yay it does! thanks! 01:22 no prob 01:22 sorry for the hassle 01:22 promptly get breathed at by a black dragon 01:22 i typo'ed one character in dgl conf 01:22 no, *I* am sorry for the hassle! 01:23 its all good. you helped me catch a mistake 01:23 lol it picked up all my spare unihorns (but nothing else) 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Ana Vam Fem Cha), 102 points, T:405, killed by Mr. Jorge, the shopkeeper 01:23 now, of course, I don't remember what I was doing (except cower in fear of the planes) 01:24 when I finish this game will I get the dwarf again, or just start a new one? 01:24 you'll get the dwarf 01:24 okay, nice 01:24 no saves are lost ;) 01:25 Go team shopkeeper! 01:26 hmm looks like aosdict merged the inital curses interface Tangles 01:26 he doesnt have some of the tweaks you made after the fact (yet) 01:26 What tweaks? 01:27 just some minor bugs we discovered while testing, message box stuff that I notice right away 01:28 hmm. i have perm_invent set in my cfg, but i am not getting it in my xnh game w/ curses 01:28 the in game cfg shows perm_invent as false 01:28 > As you open the bottle, an enormous modern major general emerges! 01:28 ah there it is 01:28 reload for the win 01:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] ChiefGreyBush (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by a fox 01:31 NetHack 3.6.1 updated (us and eu) 01:33 > You kill the gas spore! Kittamagh is caught in the gas spore's explosion! 01:33 Shite 01:34 > Kittamagh gets angry! 01:34 Very shite 01:34 RIP me 01:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:39 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 01:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50 !who 01:50 PavelB: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] k2 [nh361] 01:50 PavelB: [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh361] 01:50 !whereis k2 01:50 PavelB: [hdf-us] k2 [nh361]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:20576 The Quest level: 14 01:50 PavelB: [hdf-eu] k2 [nh361]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 01:52 K2: It shouldn't be saying you're playing on hdf-eu, right? 01:53 no it shouldnt 01:53 dgamelaunch has a command to unlink from the whereis file (delete it) once the game session is over, but it doesnt always work 01:56 Maybe you could have a script that checks for stray whereis files whenever someone runs !who 01:57 i have an idea 01:58 nope 02:01 ok that time it worked 02:01 its hit or miss 02:01 !whereis k2 02:01 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [nh361]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:20721 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 02:02 Oh hey, rolling boulder traps go away now if you trigger it and the boulder is out of position 02:04 its always been that way 02:04 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Fem Cha), 23059 points, T:10001, petrified by a thrown petrifying egg 02:04 gah 02:05 > petrified by a thrown petrifying egg 02:05 Oh SLEX 02:07 Tangles: In the curses interface, for some messages you are required to press space to continue, indicated by the prompt `>>`. It would be great if you could also use the Enter key to continue in these cases as well. 02:07 ok i need to sleep 02:07 cya 02:07 night all 02:07 PavelB you can use enter 02:07 or escape 02:07 Doesn't work for me 02:07 I have to use space 02:07 might need a new game to catch the update 02:07 or save and reload 02:08 This is the reason I got stuck after DYWYPI earlier 02:08 I tried both enter and escape, but not space 02:10 that issue has been resolved 02:11 Oh, is this one of the tweaks you mentioned xnh not having 02:13 PavelB, I was already in serious trouble, or I woulda had prayer up, so. :D 02:14 Got Str drained to 3, am spellcaster. :( 02:15 but yes 02:16 This variant's version of the gnome with wand of death seems to be random jerks with rubber chickens 02:20 * PavelB just found a +3 orcish helm 02:31 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:32 Dwarf description in FIQHack says it is ungenocideable. 02:32 What the ...? 02:37 Presumably so they can blessed genocide h 02:37 and not 02:37 you kn ow 02:37 know* 02:37 die 02:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:50 Well, goodnight all. 02:51 [hdf-us] [fh] KungPOW (mighty) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class 'L', on T:6006 02:57 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:57 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:09 You see here a +0 pick-axe <- randomly found pick-axe... how come I see the enchantment? 03:30 OK, that was not wolf. 03:30 That was warg. 03:30 And without my pets I was just screwed. 03:31 I think I am not patient for NetHack anymore. 03:31 patient enough 03:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Mal Cha) killed the psion of winsalot, the former Kinetic, on T:3327 03:34 winsalot didn't put up much of a fight :( 03:35 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Mal Cha), 2091 points, T:3340, killed by a monster (zaptrooper) 03:35 i found the nasty 03:43 Go team @! 03:56 OK, the enchantment thing --- turns out that expert users see the enchantment right away. 04:05 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Fem Cha), 6858 points, T:2243, killed by a monster (invisible Mr. Ancient Regime, the shopkeeper) 04:17 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:17 wow, hardest astral in ages 04:19 congrats raisse! 04:19 Have a cocktail with Poes in the Demigods bar :D 04:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:21 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 04:21 Grats :D 04:22 Lizard of Yendor huh 04:22 only killed 7 Rodneys after all 04:23 thanks all 04:23 now to (RL) church! 04:29 woo! congrats raisse!! 04:39 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:53 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 04:54 -!- dograt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 05:29 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 05:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:35 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 05:57 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26 https://i.imgur.com/hXsRapN.png 06:26 im scared 06:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47 -!- nooodle has joined #hardfought 06:52 Well. That room's cleared. And I can't go further in mines due to a bunch of iron bars :c 06:53 <[Demo]> get slexed 06:53 I'm not entirely clear how to break them 06:54 <[Demo]> I think u can dissolve them with acid 06:55 <[Demo]> can u dig around them? 06:55 nope 06:55 <[Demo]> might be able to burn them with like a lightsaber 06:55 Apparently this was an unhack special level 06:55 Looking at the des files 06:56 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Fem Cha) killed the Cluser of Moloch, on T:2413 06:58 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:05 -!- Zanzabar has joined #hardfought 07:06 Tangles, its been a long time since I have played. You are currently having your kitten steal everything from the shop right? 07:06 !who 07:06 Lymia: [hdf-us] Lymia [slex] Tangles [nh361] 07:06 Lymia: [hdf-eu] No current players 07:10 K2: I merged the whole curses branch... thought I should have all the later bugfixes except the ones that Tangles just made. 07:10 aosdict: Message from PavelB at 2018-05-13 00:55 EDT: The ascii-art splashscreen with the Curses interface says NetHack and not xNetHack, 0/10 pls fix 07:10 aosdict: Message from PavelB at 2018-05-13 01:00 EDT: Here, I made you a splashscreen: https://gist.github.com/pavelbraginskiy/c0dd0912bf1a2ea7c2d3fc42681b1db4 07:10 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 07:11 PavelB: I'm not actually sure where the splashscreen is in the code. 07:11 Does anyone have any recommendations for Curses / Putty / Windows? 07:12 I was going to browse other players config files but I figured that wasn't going to be very fruitful since I forget most the settings, controls, and everything to be honest. 07:12 I haven't played is something like 4 years at this point 07:20 -!- Zanzabar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:22 -!- Zanzabar has joined #hardfought 07:30 <[Demo]> oh neat, i accidentally gave salamander rogues 12 spears to start with 07:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:47 very literate 07:47 (engrave testing?) 07:47 yes 07:48 Zanzabar: I try to keep my rc pretty well commented, maybe it will help you 07:51 Cool I will check that out 07:51 Its funny I keep having to check help to see how to do everything, pick up, drop, move engrave etc 07:52 oh come on quetz 07:53 oh right, that gives reflection, useful 07:53 Dragonbane gives reflection? 07:54 it says so in the wiki! 07:54 cool 07:54 that it "will" do so in 3.6.1 07:54 go fix it! 07:54 * raisse sells Demonbane to Asidonhopo 07:54 nah, I'm playing my arc now 07:54 also I want to see it first 07:54 I fix 07:55 and the only thing I could try it with is a wand of lightning and I don't want to risk that it doesn't work 07:55 just beat up a floating eye but I don't think it even tried to freeze me 07:55 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 07:56 The floating eye's gaze is reflected by your weapon. 07:56 so yes, it works 07:57 that's how it's extra useful against dragons, of course 08:00 argh killed by a swarm of bees 08:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:08 <[Demo]> hmm, where are monster attributes like mcon and mstr set up? 08:08 yo [Demo] my beloved! I finally figured out what slex anachronounbinders will do! 08:09 <[Demo]> uh oh 08:09 <[Demo]> this sounds amusing 08:09 they will start with all skills restricted, but internally the game will track which skill you use, and whenever you level up, the skill with the most training will become unrestricted, with the new cap depending on how much you trained while you didn't have it. 08:11 <[Demo]> quality and a half 08:11 -!- Zanzabar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:12 of course every level up can only restrict a skill once, and if you have trained no restricted skills at all, you'll lose out on the benefits permanently 08:15 <[Demo]> hmm ndnh is gonna have steeds actually be usable again 08:15 <[Demo]> dnh breaks them 08:15 it does? how? 08:15 <[Demo]> they dont let you get a lot of inventory bonuses 08:15 <[Demo]> so they arent worth using 08:16 <[Demo]> my goal is to give the top ones actually a higher inventory base than you before the bonuses get applied to encourage riding 08:17 hm, dragonbane is unaligned, that would make it worth saccing for for healers 08:18 so they can go and lure dragons from the quest for scales 08:18 without the reflection catch-22 08:19 <[Demo]> just be resistant? 08:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13014 08:27 <[Demo]> hmm... nearly 3k carrying cap when on a gigantic steed seems fair? 08:29 aosdict: Is it supposed to be possible for some of the light armor that a leather golem drops, to be plastic light armor? 08:38 eep, what's happened to my xnh save file? 08:39 I haven't played for a few days, but I had an advanced valk... 08:39 and it's now starting a new game 08:39 get K2 to fix it, I had the same problem with my wiz 08:40 Maybe the upgrade ate it ;-) 08:40 *sigh* 08:40 it's still there but dgl doesn't know how to find it 08:40 oh, right 08:40 !tell K2 please can you fix my xnh save file? 08:40 Will do, elenmirie! 08:41 ok. now, why is numpad on in 361? 08:42 when my config file very clearly says not to 08:43 I had an old save file still sitting on the starting stairs, quit that and it's ok now 08:52 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 08:53 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:55 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:09 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:09 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5104 09:11 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:8353 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Tangles (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7055 points, T:6446, killed by an invisible sasquatch 09:13 ugh. polytrap sasquatch. 09:15 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 09:22 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 09:31 do 3.6.1 fountains overflow more readily than 3.6.0 fountains? 09:32 every time I want to uncurse some armor the fountain overflows (and usually dries up, too) 09:33 lol these are fumble boots anyway 09:39 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 09:40 morning 09:40 K2: Message from elenmirie at 2018-05-13 08:40 EDT: please can you fix my xnh save file? 09:40 elenmirie yup 09:43 reading bckscroll... heh 09:43 i see your save elenmirie 09:43 checking dgl config 09:44 geez 09:44 i typo'ed this line too 09:44 same problem I had? 09:44 i was probably working on all this at 3am or something 09:44 raisse very similar 09:44 same line but in this case i left out part of the path to saves 09:45 !tell elenmirie ok xnh game should be good to go 09:45 Will do, K2! 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 10785 points, T:4196, killed by a water demon 09:46 happy mothers day to all the moms out there 09:46 thank you (though I stopped celebrating it when my daughters weren't forced to make ugly handicrafts in school any more) 09:47 ;) 09:47 funny you mention that... 09:47 I've never cared for breakfast in bed (and anyway I fast on Sunday morning) and the housework has always been a shared effort 09:47 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:47 my 6 yr old made a plaster butterfly for mom 09:47 it actually looks half way decent 09:48 awww! 09:48 the best was the mini book she wrote stating all the things she loves about momma 09:48 awwwwwww! 09:48 best of mine was my eldest's birthday calendar with pictures of the seasons 09:48 I've actually remade it twice, with new calendar pages and the same pictures 09:48 nice 09:50 next time it needs to be remade I'll make winter December-February and so on, because now all the seasons are a bit off 09:50 December is definitely not autumn any more in this climate, nor June in spring 09:50 though I can argue for September being still in summer 09:51 speaking of seasons, spring finally decided to grace us with its presence this year 09:51 us, too! 09:51 both our cherry trees have blossoms 09:51 though May in NL is usually sort of in two minds of whether it wants to be spring or summer 09:51 and here real soon i need to straighten up one of our apple trees that decided to start leaning 09:52 thats our april, but can be may also 09:52 April here is definitely spring 09:52 few years ago on this very day we had 4 feet of snow dump on us 09:52 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 09:53 my better half just reminded me it was 2010 09:54 January - winter, February- mostly winter, March - trying to be spring, April - spring, May - in training for summer, June to August - summer, September - late summer, October - the good parts of autumn, November - the bad parts of autumn, December - winter but wet. 09:54 in fact May is the dryest month here, and August the wettest 09:55 (though we have Köppen Cf, "precipitation in all seasons") 09:56 april is known here as mud season. its the states unofficial 5th season 09:57 oh, thanks, K2! 09:57 elenmirie: Message from K2 at 2018-05-13 09:45 EDT: ok xnh game should be good to go 09:58 let me know if you're truly good to go please elenmirie ;) 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] knavery (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1550 points, T:2778, quit 09:59 no, still getting new game :( 09:59 grrrr 09:59 did you exit completely out of dgl before trying again? 09:59 no, trying that now 09:59 ah 10:00 yeah any changes i make to dgl config, you have to get out of dgl completely and log back in for them to take effect 10:00 ah, got it 10:00 it works now 10:00 \o/ 10:00 thank you! 10:00 welcome! sorry for the hassle 10:00 no worries 10:00 note to self - dbl-check all the configs before junethack 10:01 for some reason all the little errors in the dgl configs are just on the eu server 10:01 us server looks good lol 10:01 K2: I ported curses/whereis/dgl stuff to splicehack. Everything seems to work fine, although I just kind of blindly merged dgl and some of the compilation stuff so I'm crossing my fingers. 10:02 AntiGulp ok. i'll pull it over here soon, if I see anything thats off i'll let ya know 10:02 Cool, thank you so much! 10:08 somebody called me? 10:08 * bhaak notes that Swiss are slow 10:09 lol 10:09 hours ago 10:09 but thats ok 10:09 we were testing beetlejuice properties 10:12 wow 10:12 first sacrifice 10:12 nice! 10:13 and it's early enough that the monsters are still wimpy so I can practice before they kill me 10:15 Lymia: holy shit I didn't realize you were so far already! 10:15 er 10:15 wand in a chest on level 4 10:15 lucky run raisse! 10:16 yeah, I only have a fort branch blocked off by a level 75 demon, a mines blocked off by iron grates and a weird nodig/notele level, and a sokoban I screwed up :( 10:17 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 10:20 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 10:24 [Demo]: acu bug,doesn't get flying at lvl 10 10:24 despite the msg 10:25 <[Demo]> yeah it does 10:25 <[Demo]> what race? 10:25 <[Demo]> it sometimes doesnt i think 10:25 <[Demo]> and im not sure why 10:25 <[Demo]> i thought maybe id got it but lost it to like a gremlin or something 10:25 <[Demo]> i think its a dnh bug 10:25 <[Demo]> cause i swear i had a pirate that couldnt swim and i had 0 gremlin interactions 10:27 orc 10:28 I did quaff levitation shortly after 10:28 <[Demo]> thanks that could be it 10:29 <[Demo]> what the hell even 10:29 <[Demo]> for some reason my acu orc is flying when i start the game 10:30 <[Demo]> oh no im dumb 10:30 also what the heck 10:30 my dread of dantolian just dissapeared 10:30 like 10:30 my msg log shows me hitting with it 10:30 then not 10:30 no dropping or anything and I didn't bag it 10:31 <[Demo]> too bad no ttyrec 10:31 <[Demo]> cause i would love to see what the hell happened there 10:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:49654 10:32 <[Demo]> i am very confused by the lack of flying though 10:32 <[Demo]> cause it happened to me once 10:32 gogo hothraxxa! 10:33 <[Demo]> do you still have echolocation? 10:33 nope? 10:33 don't think so at least 10:33 never seen it trigger 10:33 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Red Fem Cha), 223086 points, T:12208, killed by a bullet 10:33 <[Demo]> ok yeah im dumb 10:33 Should ID my wands :D 10:33 So I don't do that again 10:33 noooooooooou Lymia! I was hoping you'd beat the nemesis :( 10:33 <[Demo]> you ever change forms? 10:34 Next time :D 10:35 <[Demo]> if you really don't have echolocation then i think something is resetting youracedata 10:39 So the nemesis TPs to you, it seems? 10:40 yep 10:40 [Demo]: uh not that I remember 10:40 also, any good wishes for acu? 10:40 maybe a weapon, I lost mine 10:40 quest nemeses are covetous, yeah 10:40 did you make demon lord artifacts wishable? 10:40 yeah, shoulda camped in the rooms to the top 10:40 just a random hope 10:40 <[Demo]> no i did not 10:40 To not deal with the whole map 10:41 rip 10:41 <[Demo]> the archivist is a pretty good weapon for acu 10:41 <[Demo]> so are thought and memory 10:41 the quest nemesis also starts out meditating, so you can't just camp at the upstair without waking him up 10:41 <[Demo]> but not wishable 10:41 well that's like 3 levels above 10:41 should I just wish liek atma weapon 10:41 <[Demo]> whatever weapon you wish for will ultimately be outclasses 10:41 <[Demo]> outclassed 10:41 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *poof*] 10:41 <[Demo]> but yeah i mean atma is always strong 10:41 hm ok 10:42 I have nothing but +7 quarterstaff rn 10:42 enki is parked below but he's actually kinda hard 10:42 <[Demo]> im really confused what happened to your dread of dantalion 10:42 lost buer's aols 10:42 [Demo]: I might have accidentally walked into the water where it dropped? 10:42 that's my only clue 10:42 I wasn't burdeneded or anything tho 10:42 So bring a whistle? 10:42 :P 10:42 and nothing like that showed up in the history 10:42 <[Demo]> theres a spirit with an attack that teleports ur shit away 10:43 <[Demo]> but i think it only does it to armor 10:43 don't think a whistle can wake them, but a drum of earthquake can, or polymorphing into a mind flayer and using mind blasts (range is limited though) 10:43 is basic attack spells enough to cast FoD 10:43 <[Demo]> probably not but i can wizmode check 10:43 that would be nice 10:43 considering wishing for blessed spbk of that 10:44 <[Demo]> what wis/int (cant recall which acu uses to cast) 10:44 10, 9 10:44 lol i'm screwed 10:44 garnet rod might be useful 10:44 <[Demo]> could be yeah 10:44 going w/ that I think 10:45 since there's no way I can cast FoD reliably at 10 int/wis and only basic skill 10:45 <[Demo]> yeah 10:45 yeah it's still 100% fail for a vanilla caveman with that 10:48 <[Demo]> have you made it to acu quest home yet? 10:48 <[Demo]> theres a whole library of hints 10:50 aw shit I ded 10:50 <[Demo]> enki get you? 10:50 nah 10:50 eurynome 10:50 stole the death wand 10:50 <[Demo]> eurynome is a motherfucker 10:50 first turn fighting her too 10:50 <[Demo]> but has a really nice pair of boots 10:50 note to self: next time wish engagement ring 10:50 yeah saw those 10:50 <[Demo]> uhh right also something about the dread of dantalion 10:51 ya? 10:51 <[Demo]> i think it works similar to a scroll of scare monster when you stand on it 10:51 ooh 10:51 <[Demo]> oh and apparently u can invoke buer's amulet for healing 10:51 that sounds interesting 10:51 ah ok 10:51 I was wondering what that was in the source code 10:51 the FEAR thing 10:53 hm i'm gonna play some slex now I think 10:53 lol 10:53 LarienTelrunya: " form VII (Vaapad) Unskilled (max Expert) 10:53 and I can get to master in staff as well :p 10:53 nvm 10:53 [hdf-us] [slex] rikersan (Elm Ang Mal Cha), 0 points, T:11, killed by a system shock 10:53 riker: yeah Vaapad exists in slex but not in dnethack; it's for using double lightsabers 10:54 apparently that can happen 10:54 Early polytrap? 10:54 how good is my fire stick amy 10:54 if you reach expert vaapad skill, you learn "perilous whirl", a technique that greatly increases your melee damage for a while but reduces to-hit 10:54 the WoW was 0:1 10:54 no, early fountain 10:54 ah 10:55 fire stick does d10 damage 10:55 should I use enchant weapon on it? 10:55 i started with a blessed one 10:55 lol, I guess if you don't plan to survive long-term then why not? but there are probably better weapons :D 10:55 hm ok 10:55 lmk if I find a better one 10:55 it only does 1 more damage than a quarterstaff 10:56 since I have 2 blessed enc wep 10:56 the stick would be better if you weren't an angel I guess, or does it increase your line of sight to 3 squares? 10:56 oh it does 10:56 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 10:56 might be worth enchanting it then, so you can storm through the early game with little trouble 10:56 ehh 10:57 so many daggers O_o 10:57 not in stakcs tho 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11704 11:02 > a blessed magic marker (0:3) 11:02 really amy 11:03 ? if you find a blessed scroll of charging, it will become very useful 11:04 argh now I've been killed by a giant spider 11:04 in minetown so it might have left bones 11:04 <[Demo]> hey amy, whats glorious dead? 11:05 [Demo]: a corpse that grants resistances (use the in-game description :P), but it seems it's not a type that won't rot away 11:05 <[Demo]> oh 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 186 points, T:1067, killed by a wand 11:05 <[Demo]> wait whoa 11:05 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:05 <[Demo]> it wont rot though? 11:05 it will, unless it randomly becomes e.g. a lizard corpse 11:06 and if it does, jackpot because you'll have slotless reflection and MR 11:06 <[Demo]> oh damn 11:06 <[Demo]> yeah it rotted away :( 11:07 what are the odds of something good happening if i eat a cursed pill amy 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:12043 11:07 riker: apparently the BUC has no effect; can get sick or be poisoned or stunned or hallucinated or gain 600 nutrition or fall asleep or gain temporary speed 11:08 and very rarely it can give a wish but don't count on that :P 11:08 hm 11:08 fear 11:08 :/ 11:08 GRAYSWANDIR 11:08 artifact lightsaber :O 11:08 uh 11:08 saber? 11:08 nah, in my game 11:08 ah ok 11:08 nice! 11:09 artifact saber here :D 11:09 grayswandir is of course still a silver saber 11:09 sadly 11:09 I can't get skilli nthat 11:09 aww 11:10 worth investing enchants into anyway? 11:11 well it does d8 base damage, and has double damage, so it might still be good 11:11 also, you may get lucky and be able to unrestrict saber when sitting on a throne 11:12 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:12 eh I guess I'll wait 11:12 <[Demo]> jesus christ 11:12 still lucky tho 11:12 <[Demo]> thrones are weird 11:12 in slex? 11:12 yes 11:12 very much so 11:12 <[Demo]> i got an umbrella of flying from one 11:12 niceeee 11:12 <[Demo]> and a robe of mr from another 11:12 <[Demo]> well im an angel and a monk so it sucks 11:13 lol 11:13 anyway I'm gonna take a break now o/ amy 11:13 aww 11:13 will resume later but probably not until you're asleep :( 11:13 volunteering somewhere from 11-6ish today, that's in 2.7 hours for me 11:13 yeah I'll probably leave soon, roommate wants to go to a greek restaurant 11:13 #timezones 11:14 anwyay seeya amy, demo 11:14 good variants each of you :D 11:14 see you and have fun! :) 11:14 -!- riker has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:16 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh361] spork (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 153 points, T:657, killed by a dwarf 11:35 ooh magic mapping, what a pity that I can't cast it 11:35 100% fail and I have only 1 Pw anyway 11:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50768 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Raijin, on T:12954 11:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50771 11:46 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:57 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:00 <@Winsalot> !tell FIQ did you change FIQhack to no longer show how mauch % I have advanced my skill? Or is there some option I need to enable? 12:00 Will do, @Winsalot! 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 610 points, T:2138, killed by a kobold lord 12:10 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 236 points, T:952, killed by a small mimic 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4 points, T:19, killed by a falling rock 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 50 points, T:134, killed by a kobold zombie 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 336 points, T:1095, killed by a brown mold 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 8 points, T:176, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 145 points, T:475, killed by a bear trap 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3 points, T:11, killed by a kitten called Khoss 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:23, killed by a fox 13:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:02 [hdf-us] [slex] rikersan (Elm Ang Mal Cha), 20991 points, T:2516, killed by a monster (dwarf mummy) 13:02 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 13:02 !tell LarienTelrunya ended up dying but hey that was _great_. turned out hte pickaxe was +5, and I left a bones file as well. that should be quite fun for somebody who finds that 13:02 Will do, riker! 13:04 [hdf-us] [fh] sk1j (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 16017 points, T:1195, killed by a jaguar 13:10 <[Demo]> +5 pickaxes cant save u from the cruelty of slex! 13:11 [hdf-us] [slex] rikersan (Psi Wra Mal Cha), 211 points, T:128, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:11 and apparently 6 hp isn't very good 13:11 who would have thought 13:12 what is with slex today 13:12 second random real artifact from vanilla 13:12 grays and then giantkiller 13:13 <[Demo]> i usually get a lot of dnh artis 13:18 sigh... termbin not working 13:19 I have a +5 giantslayer O-o 13:19 and 24 +1 shurken 13:19 and an "ols 13:19 seriously wtf is wrong with slex 13:19 heh 13:19 <@Tone> I'm going to continue streaming that 3.6.1 wishless wizard I've been playing. About to take on the castle. I think I'll start feeling the effects of the wishless conduct on my ascension kit soon. 13:20 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 13459 points, T:983, killed by a Ms. Ermenak, the shopkeeper's wand 13:20 <@Tone> https://www.twitch.tv/tonelive 13:21 interesting name for the shopkeeper's wand 13:26 then I anger the shk and now I can't come back to minetown 13:32 <@Tone> Did the hdf 361 update affect menucolors? Can't figure out why mine aren't working any more 13:32 [hdf-us] [slex] rikersan (Mon Wra Mal Cha) killed the mahou shoujo of Lymia, the former Preparing for Exams, on T:1624 13:33 [hdf-us] [slex] rikersan (Mon Wra Mal Cha) averted death, on T:1630 13:33 Lymia: found your bones :D 13:34 !lastgame lymia 13:34 riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Lymia/slex/dumplog/1526199331.slex.txt 13:41 nooodle: was doing some work on the hdf scoreboard for 3.6.1, saw your last couple of games where you died with the amulet :( 13:41 like within the last couple of days 13:42 -!- riker has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:47 !who 13:47 K2: [hdf-us] Nobbs [nh343] sk1j [fh] toneLive [nh361] cassiopeiastar [nh361] Eleven [nh361] spork [nh361] 13:47 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 13:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 22355 points, T:1509, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15623 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Raijin, on T:15912 14:03 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] toneLive (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:29506 14:08 !tell aosdict The splashscreen is in a bunch of #defines starting on line 48 of `cursinit.c` 14:08 Will do, PavelB! 14:09 Yeah I found it 14:09 aosdict: Message from PavelB at 2018-05-13 14:08 EDT: The splashscreen is in a bunch of #defines starting on line 48 of `cursinit.c` 14:09 Ok cool 14:09 * aosdict is wiped out, just got back from the longest bike ride of the year so far 14:10 I can do the splash and make a PR if you want 14:11 jonadab: No that is incorrect, I probably need to special case golem drops. Ooh, or have them drop multiple things that _can_ be that material and force them to be that material. 14:14 [backscroll] K2 clearly knows that he won't be forgotten on father's day 14:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 16572 points, T:2432, killed by a rothe 14:18 heh, Moo killed by a rothe 14:19 <@Tone> K2: Did the update to 361-dev affect 361 rc files? Mine is being used anymore even though it's still in the directory/editor 14:19 aosdict: I've added a splashcreen, I'll make a PR as soon as I can test to see if it actually works (currently waiting for it to compile). 14:20 PavelB: I'm working on a different splash (had some ASCII art I wanted to incorporate) 14:24 <@Winsalot> !tell FIQ Seems like it's because I am playing a wraith in polyinit and that prevents me from training some skills. In particular, even though I am wielding weapons I seem to be doing "touch" attacks that have no corresponding skill. Intended? 14:24 Will do, @Winsalot! 14:27 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 14:27 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:30 \ 14:30 PavelB: 14:30 ? 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh361] toneLive (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30042 14:32 aosdict: I did it! PR made. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UmhwONfo/image.png 14:33 looks good! 14:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:36 You take a sip of warm milk substitute. 14:36 (drinking from sink while hallucinating) 14:36 Hallucination lasts way too long 14:37 lol the stairs are so close together >< 14:37 (in the mines) 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1487 points, T:2734, killed by a giant ant 14:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by a sewer rat 14:43 PavelB: here was the one I was separately working on: https://gist.github.com/copperwater/763d589992f29bf84cdc6cdd43bd3230 14:43 <@Winsalot> Anyone remember if FIQhack had bugs with magic chasts where you could acess items of another character? 14:43 Oh damn that looks fancy 14:43 Lemme edit that in 14:44 Sure, if you wanna add it to the PR, less work for me :) 14:44 <@Winsalot> For XNetHack, why not use fancier unicode characters? 14:46 I must say, really appreciate the lack of backslashes to escape. 14:46 <@Winsalot> !tell FIQ sorry to bether again. But oh hdf-eu in polyinit, in Soko magic chest I just found items of my another character. When I pressed Esc I received corrupted save message. Quit after that. 14:46 Will do, @Winsalot! 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18301 14:50 aosdict: It appears to be too wide, the splashscreen linewraps. 14:51 I'll try to fix that, I guess 14:53 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 14:54 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 14:57 <@Winsalot> Guys, if you want really impressive banner, then do something like https://pastebin.com/7meuSzxS 15:00 -!- nooodle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00 aosdict: My bad, I'm just bad at copy/pasting 15:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:03 . 15:03 LarienTelrunya: Message from riker at 2018-05-13 13:02 EDT: ended up dying but hey that was _great_. turned out hte pickaxe was +5, and I left a bones file as well. that should be quite fun for somebody who finds that 15:03 rikersan: aww, I wish I ever found any bones files in slex but I don't :( 15:04 <@Winsalot> bones in slex is just a rumor 15:04 aosdict: PR updated to use fancier splash 15:04 <@Winsalot> Nobody is even gonna comment on my idea for fancier splash screen? 15:05 It's *pretty* lame IMO 15:05 curses-slex could also use a better splash screen, currently it still uses one that says "NetHack" 15:05 <@Winsalot> the X part or the Nethack part? 15:05 <@Winsalot> 😄 15:06 !ping 15:06 Grasshopper: Pong! 15:06 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: pls officially rename Slash'em Extended into "slex" 15:07 it more or less already is, when starting it the game says: This is Sadistic Levels of Endless X-Citement (SLEX) 1997-2018 by Amy 15:07 Not a fan of either part 15:09 !whereis AmyBSOD 15:09 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] AmyBSOD is not currently playing on this server. 15:09 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sco Her Mal Neu) T:36076 The Dungeons of Doom level: 41 15:10 <@Winsalot> Good for you 15:11 <[Demo]> ugh 15:11 <[Demo]> repasted laptop and its still too hot 15:12 <@Winsalot> What are your thoughts on eurovision? 15:13 Winsalot: the "Kuschelhase" (cuddle hare) won ♥ 15:13 LarienTelrunya: Was SLEX actually started in 1997? Wow. 15:13 PavelB: nah, that's when SLASH'EM was started 15:14 Ah 15:14 SLEX was started late 2013 (November or December). 15:16 <[Demo]> slex was started too soon 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 784 points, T:2963, killed by a giant ant 15:17 <[Demo]> i want a vanilla slashem revival 15:18 @Winsalot This is an ASCII-only establishment. 15:19 @Tone the dev rc files switched to 361 rc files 15:19 so .nhdevrc switched to .nh361rc 15:19 you still have a dev game going? 15:21 @Tone ok i see... i recreated your dev cfg 15:21 you're good to go 15:21 -!- bobbydurrett has joined #hardfought 15:21 there's only a handful of dev saves left... 15:21 !who 15:21 K2: [hdf-us] toneLive [nh361] TLar [nh361] 15:21 K2: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] 15:22 I ascended one and I think elenmirie too 15:22 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- bobbydurrett has quit [Client Quit] 15:23 <@Tone> K2: Ah, that makes sense. Thank you!! 15:24 np 15:26 PavelB: merged 15:26 K2: Pull update xnh 15:26 it's not time critical... 15:27 Yeah, but it should get done at some point 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] toneLive (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31732 15:29 i will later tonight (and splicehack also). about to take mom out for moms day dinner and party with friends 15:29 i mean my wife... call her mom because of mini me heh 15:30 Me, adding `CFLAGS+=-march=native -Ofast`: I WILL HAVE THE FASTEST NETHACK 15:31 * aosdict compiles with -O0 15:31 ok be back later tonight 15:31 Cya 15:31 o/ 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh361] TLar (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 527 points, T:1836, killed by a magic missile 15:32 the nice thing about O0 is that it builds fast. 15:32 And it takes up significantly less space 15:33 -Ofast inlines everything that could possibly be inlined and unrolls for loops 15:39 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39 D: 15:39 rld no 15:39 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 15:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 15:40 Ohok 15:40 rld yes 15:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 im immune to rld 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Raijin, on T:18933 15:50 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:52 bastard zapped me with a wand of cancellation before he died :( 15:55 PavelB: new banner looks *awesome* in game 15:58 Yep 16:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 16:15 jonadab: what I am doing with golems and object materials may turn them into nice little treasure troves 16:17 <[Demo]> weird 16:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of Winsalot, the former Excursionist, on T:2485 16:28 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 39676 points, T:2678, killed by a white unicorn 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 142 points, T:781, killed by a djinni 16:40 > As you read the scroll, it disappears. Nothing interesting happens. 16:40 🤔 16:40 You find an arch-lich posing as a statue. 16:44 <[Demo]> yikes 16:45 yay tins of mind flayer meat get :D 16:45 !who 16:45 PavelB: [hdf-us] krm26 [fh] cassiopeiastar [nh361] Eleven [nh361] 16:45 PavelB: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] Raisse [nh361] 16:45 !whereis AmyBSOD 16:45 PavelB: [hdf-us] AmyBSOD is not currently playing on this server. 16:45 PavelB: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sco Her Mal Neu) T:37234 Vlad's Tower level: 35 16:45 wtf 16:45 I'm actually on the lawful quest, no idea why it says Vlad's Tower 16:46 Huh 16:46 I recall K2 was trying some fixes for a !whereis bug yesterday 16:47 oh? was it slex's whereis bug? 16:47 well I guess it's better than not getting any message at all when trying to use whereis while the player is in a branch ;) 16:48 nah, it was something to do with whereis data not being cleared when a player left 16:48 ah 16:48 D: My armor and weapons just became cursed and I have no idea why 16:49 heh, I got a cursed -9 gray dragon scale mail from that arch-lich 16:49 I just kicked down a door and suddenly my stuff is cursed 16:49 Didn't become any worse, mind you. I just can't unwield or take it off. 16:49 PavelB: which variant? xnethack? it has funnydoor traps 16:49 I wish there was a message though 16:50 I only noticed because of menu_colors 16:52 aosdict: From the wiki page for xNetHack: "Version 0.1.1 of xNetHack is currently released and is available to play on the hardfought public server" 16:52 > Version 0.1.1 16:54 K2: pushed a bug fix 16:54 FIQ: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-05-13 12:00 EDT: did you change FIQhack to no longer show how mauch % I have advanced my skill? Or is there some option I need to enable? 16:54 FIQ: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-05-13 14:24 EDT: Seems like it's because I am playing a wraith in polyinit and that prevents me from training some skills. In particular, even though I am wielding weapons I seem to be doing "touch" attacks that have no corresponding skill. Intended? 16:54 FIQ: Message from @Winsalot at 2018-05-13 14:46 EDT: sorry to bether again. But oh hdf-eu in polyinit, in Soko magic chest I just found items of my another character. When I pressed Esc I received corrupted save message. Quit after that. 16:54 !tell @Winsalot your magic chest bug has been fixed. The exercise thing is probably intended 16:54 Will do, FIQ! 16:55 <@Winsalot> . 16:55 @Winsalot: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-13 16:54 EDT: your magic chest bug has been fixed. The exercise thing is probably intended 16:55 <@Winsalot> "probably intended" :) 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 903 points, T:1558, poisoned by an arrow 16:57 [Demo]: more like he ragequit, not #quit 17:01 Mandevil: How was fumbling buffed in FIQHack? 17:02 TROPHY GET! 17:02 Mandevil: FIQHack doesn't autocurse thirsty weapons 17:03 But FIQHack identification works differently -- and this *is* mentioned in the wiki 17:04 Mandevil: Dwarves can't be genocided in FIQHack to avoid non-dwarves genociding h and wipe you out 17:04 Same for human, elf, orc, gnome 17:04 PavelB: Feel free to fix any inconsistencies you find on the wiki including variant pages like xnethack 17:04 Mandevil: If you reach expert in a weapon category, you can deduce enchantment of all weapons using that skill 17:05 LarienTelrunya: I don't have cursing traps. That is the domain of slex. 17:05 PavelB: Maybe you were quaffing fountains? 17:05 I was, but not anywhere around the time my stuff got cursed 17:05 aosdict: heh, you should add them then "As you rotate the doorknob, an evil, hideous-sounding spell goes off! You feel as if you need some help." 17:06 PavelB: The only realistic thing that should have cursed that much gear early in the game is if you were fountain quaffing and got "This water's no good!" 17:06 I can't create a nethack wiki account because the captcha requires I know what symbol represents a fox. Please help. 17:07 Now, it's possible that it cursed mainly BUC-unknown stuff, and you only learned it was cursed once you tried to unequip it. 17:07 d 17:07 Thanks 17:07 Maybe I just didn't notice it at first 17:12 .-. I have found 3 cursed scrolls of remove curse this game and 0 blessed/uncursed ones 17:12 PavelB: Uh... couldn't you look this up on the wiki? 17:13 Yes 17:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: gotta get up early tomorrow, next week in general will be hell... need to get enough sleep] 17:20 speaking of which, I should add 0.2.0 stuff to the wiki 17:22 I'm considering putting the splash screen on the wiki too. heh 17:27 -!- Tariru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:32 It really does look super nice 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1172 points, T:2315, killed by a rabid rat 17:46 FIQhack updated 17:47 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 17:47 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 17:47 (same for FIQhack, oops) 17:48 K2: we edge closer and closer to 300 17:48 heh 17:48 ooooh that splashscreen for xnh looks sweet 17:48 this update was just the splash screen, correct? 17:49 yeah 17:49 did PavelB make that? 17:49 afaik yes 17:49 I made a splashscreen, then aosdict made a fancier one 17:49 I made the ascii art, PavelB took care of the code 17:49 awesome 17:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:50 Mine was just the default one with a letter x on the front 17:51 well since so many people seem to like it I think I will stick it on the wiki page. 17:51 <[Demo]> waylandnethack 17:51 aosdict: you havent merged all of the code Tangles has written for curses for 3.6.1 yet have you 17:51 Nope 17:51 <[Demo]> an xnh fork 17:52 K2: I thought I did? 17:52 I'm running Fedora 28, and I'm still trying to figure out why Wayland is disabled 17:52 I've been stuck on X for a while 17:52 I merged the curses branch earlier 17:52 <[Demo]> ha 17:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] FIQ (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2022 points, T:2143, quit 17:53 aosdict: Nope, there are still some fixes that you don't have in xnh. 17:53 which contained only two Tangles fixes I brought up yesterday 17:53 (I haven't pushed that, but still.) 17:53 I see no splash screen for xnh? 17:53 Did you set `OPTIONS=splash_screen` 17:53 you got to T:2143 before deciding there was no splash screen? 17:53 <[Demo]> lmao 17:53 <[Demo]> it might have been hiding 17:54 OH YEAH YOU ONLY SEE IT ON NEW GAMES 17:54 Sorry caps 17:54 aosdict: Why haven't you pushed it yet? 17:55 PavelB == Death? 17:55 aosdict reason i say that 17:55 Huh 17:56 Tangles made it so on msgtype=stop you can hit either space (default) esc or enter to continue 17:56 in xnethack right now i can only hit space 17:56 doesnt recognize enter or esc 17:56 K2: what commit is this 17:56 one sec 17:56 its very recent 17:57 https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commit/2d202d4900cbd90cab7055acbdf5ef3d25a11005 17:58 I... see that commit in xnh's history. 17:58 hmm 17:58 maybe i need to start a fresh game 17:58 and there's the space still after a stop event in the chat window 17:59 after hitting spacebar 17:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] ChiefGreyBush (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 107 points, T:117, killed by kicking a wall 17:59 yeah something isnt right 18:02 its like curses on xnh is a few days behind whats on 361-hdf 18:02 all I can do is keep merging the latest curses branch 18:03 can we confirm? do you get the same behavior? 18:03 I do 18:03 ok 18:03 aosdict - you're pulling from this branch? https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36/commits/hardfought 18:04 No. 18:04 I'm pulling from the curses branch. 18:04 Which still has the commit you're talking about... 18:05 well... maybe its worth taking a quick look. maybe things have changed significantly enough in xnh, something didnt come over correctly 18:05 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach2 (Con Orc Mal Cha), 151 points, T:390, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 18:05 I really don't have the will to investigate this right now. 18:05 lol... it doesnt have to be right this second 18:05 just making you aware 18:06 I never use the curses interface, so it's very foreign to me 18:06 and I'd rather just have it be there and not really have to worry about it 18:06 your call 18:07 but if you went to the trouble to add it, you might want to take a few extra minutes to incorporate some of the bug fixes we identofied over the last couple of days while testing it 18:07 *identified 18:07 yeah but the bug fixes are all on the curses branch, correct? so as long as I keep pulling from those I should still get them 18:08 yup they appear to match. yet the old behavior remains... 18:08 hmm 18:08 lemme make sure its not something on my end 18:09 what are you doing to reproduce this? you trigger a msgtype stop message and then what? 18:10 two things so far: 18:10 1) before you could ONLY hit spacebar to continue (same with exiting the game while in curses mode). Tangles fixed it so esc and enter work also 18:11 2) after a msgtype=stop event, before, it'd add a blank space under the last message (super annoying). Tangles fied it so that didnt happen either 18:11 same with TAB messages 18:11 The behavior I observe on the latest build is that esc and enter work to dismiss a stop 18:12 your local test build or on hdf? 18:12 I also don't observe a blank space under the last message. 18:12 This is my build. 18:12 ok 18:12 so this may be something i need to look into 18:12 fwiw just pushed what I have 18:13 ok 18:13 containing the most recent 2 curses commits 18:13 and made golems more interesting ;) 18:14 :) 18:15 ok my hints file for 361-hdf and xnh are identical, save for game install paths 18:15 so thats not it 18:16 THERE we go 18:16 now its behaving like it should 18:18 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 18:18 <[Demo]> does it have a splash screen? 18:18 for everyone except players named Demo, yes 18:19 so aosdict: those last two curses commits were what was needed 18:19 <[Demo]> what about players named Demo2? 18:19 <[Demo]> hmm 18:19 <[Demo]> no splash screen, even with the option set 18:20 scroll up 18:20 <[Demo]> nope no luck 18:20 the new splash screen looks really neat 18:21 i think you have to be in curses mode to view it 18:21 <[Demo]> oh 18:21 <[Demo]> yeah im not 18:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:21 <[Demo]> idk how to do that 18:21 <[Demo]> this is just an elaborate ruse to ppl to play xnh isnt it? 18:21 <[Demo]> and use evil curses 18:22 <[Demo]> grrrrr im gonna crawl back under my rock and stir up some soup 18:22 [Demo]: `OPTIONS=windowtype:curses` 18:23 <[Demo]> thanks 18:23 there's no such thing as OPTIONS=splash_screen 18:23 Sure there is 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1741 points, T:2995, killed by a dwarf 18:24 <[Demo]> yeah it didnt error 18:24 <[Demo]> this is a cool splash screen 18:24 Indeed 18:24 <[Demo]> oh lord 18:25 <[Demo]> curses graphics scale like shit on a huge terminal 18:27 What are you talking about 18:27 It looks beautiful 18:27 <[Demo]> the playing field is in the bottom left corner of my screen 18:27 <[Demo]> like what 18:27 Try `OPTIONS=align_status:left` 18:27 It'll look nicer 18:28 <[Demo]> what 18:28 <[Demo]> no 18:28 Also `OPTIONS=perm_invent` 18:28 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/COowxz6.png 18:29 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2486/source 18:29 Well, *I* think it looks nice. 18:29 <[Demo]> cause ur game isnt stuck on the bottom of the screen 18:29 yeah all this stuff is great if you have a big terminal 18:30 <[Demo]> why does mine look so shit 18:30 but I like to have 4 small terminals 18:30 <[Demo]> im straling k2s rc 18:30 look at my nh361 rc demo 18:30 i need to tweak the xnh one still 18:30 I have a big terminal too 18:30 My game looks like yours 18:31 <[Demo]> wheres the online editor 18:31 i like how you can adjust where the inv and statusbar, message windows go 18:31 aosdict: Whatever you just pushed savebreaks 18:31 bwuh? 18:31 no it doesnt 18:31 I saved, pulled, and my save broke. 18:32 <[Demo]> what k2s rc just broke it wow i love this 18:32 PavelB did you already have a build of 0.2.0? 18:32 Yeah 18:32 I was on curses 18:32 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:32 well nothing I did actually broke saves and I don't think your splash screen PR or Tangles' curses changes broke anything... that's all I pushed 18:32 i can promise you curses doesnt save break, otherwise my test account on hdf would have also broke 18:33 it did not 18:33 Huh 18:33 the only actual gameplay changes should be to mkobj.c and objnam.c for obj materials stuff 18:33 Well I don't mind, I was screwed anyway 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 293 points, T:834, killed by a boulder 18:34 <[Demo]> this is worse 18:34 hah 18:34 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/BtRwHa5.png 18:35 ah you use utf-8 18:35 disable the ibmgraphics symset 18:36 <[Demo]> my shit is still fucky though 18:37 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/Crtsmgf.png still stuck in bottom left and top bar is still BIG 18:45 Ibmgraphics is for Windows 18:46 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach2 (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the ghost of ranlhach2, the former Jail-bird, on T:6699 18:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 19242 points, T:620, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh361] TLar (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2674 points, T:4337, killed by a gnome 19:00 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach2 (Con Orc Mal Cha), 17033 points, T:9428, killed by an ettin mummy 19:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:07 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 19:07 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:15 !who 19:15 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [fh] sk1j [fh] cassiopeiastar [nh361] 19:15 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 19:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Mon Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Moo, the former Rhizotomist, on T:776 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:25874 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3052 points, T:3054, killed by a rope golem 19:47 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 19:47 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org or nethack@eu.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 3.6.1-hdf version is now live - https://redd.it/8izmva 19:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 19:47 !who 19:47 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [fh] sk1j [fh] Eleven [nh361] cassiopeiastar [nh361] 19:47 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 19:48 !who 19:48 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [spl] krm26 [fh] sk1j [fh] Eleven [nh361] cassiopeiastar [nh361] 19:48 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 19:48 !whereis k2 19:48 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [spl]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 19:48 alrighty 19:49 !whereis k2 19:49 K2: [hdf-us] k2 is not currently playing on this server. 19:53 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 20:03 SpliceHack updated (us and eu) 20:04 YANI: Straw golems have a smallish chance of dropping a T-shirt. 20:21 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3541 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2411 points, T:3766, killed by a jaguar 20:32 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:45 !who 20:45 PavelB: [hdf-us] krm26 [fh] sk1j [fh] Eleven [nh361] k2 [nh361] 20:45 PavelB: [hdf-eu] Katakota [nh361] 20:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Mon Elf Mal Cha) killed the orc zombie of bouquet, the former Rogue, on T:3372 21:01 aosdict: Which golems are people most likely to want, from a stuff-you-get-by-killing-them perspective? 21:04 flesh golems for eating for intrinsics 21:04 or stone golems if you want rocks 21:04 leather golems can be good for low-level spellcaster 21:04 s 21:28 Grasshopper: This is in the context of new xnh golem changes 21:29 jonadab: Dunno, maybe leather? Since a lot of magical armor is leather? There aren't any cloth golems or I would say that. 21:34 Aren't there gold golems that drop zorkmids 21:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Mon Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Mandevil, the former Field Worker, on T:6497 21:37 Gold golems drop zorkmids in vanilla, and now in xnh they may drop other gold-eligible objects. 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2008 points, T:2656, killed by a hill orc 21:45 Zorkmids are better than leather armor tho, right 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 13 points, T:148, killed by a black pudding 21:46 When you're cornered by a ravenous fox, all the zorkmids in the world won't save you 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh361] cassiopeiastar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 356 points, T:774, killed by a sewer rat 21:54 -!- tacco| has quit [] 21:56 By the time you will your first leather golem you probably have better armor 21:57 No one here has looked at 659ee49. 21:57 What's that 21:57 the commit from today which prompted me to start talking about golem stuff 21:57 everyone is assuming vanilla mechanics for some reason 22:03 flesh golems can drop meat rings! 22:04 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 22:04 unfortunately no, it's limited to stuff which could be created by mkobj(), and also I didn't code it for flesh golems (they'll still drop a corpse) 22:04 well screw that then. i wanted a meat ring 22:05 so wood golems would be the most desirable i guess 22:06 what items would be nice to get as wood? 22:06 oh wait, iron golems of course 22:06 small shields are wood 22:06 ya 22:07 yeah but it can drop anything that *could* be wood 22:07 you could kill an iron golem and get an iron small shield, for instance 22:08 also, ya are actually metal in vanilla - I changed them to wood very recently in xnh 22:08 well exactly. i was thinking wood had the most potential but now i think i was wrong because there aren't as mant items as i thought and because there's a shitload of iron 22:09 wait, bamboo arrows are metal in vanilla? 22:09 yes 22:09 no way 22:09 wow. who knew 22:10 I still think I'd want to see a gold golem 22:10 anyway, elven daggers are also wood 22:10 glass items are going to be interesting 22:10 is crystal plate mail glass? 22:11 arguably following crystal plate mail's example, glass armor shouldn't break when worn, ever 22:11 yes it is 22:11 also, glass wands exist 22:11 i can't recall if there are glass rings 22:11 i think no 22:11 well yeah but there isn't much special about glass wands except that they break if you kick them in a chest 22:11 or throw them for some reason 22:12 (very fun to do with spent wands of digging, if they're breakable) 22:12 or drop them on an altar while levitating 22:12 a friend of mine did that once 22:12 right. all these things remain the same for all glass items 22:12 mirrors 22:12 currently, any glass thrown weapons will break, but melee weapons and armor won't 22:13 ya being metal in vanilla would be a bug yeah? 22:13 K2: It's probably the tip or something. 22:13 apparently not 22:13 Like regular arrows are mostly wood but iron-tipped 22:13 abd are described as iron 22:13 (and having them be iron allows the game to consider them as rusty) 22:14 which is why ya are metal i guess 22:14 hmm 22:14 i would call dev team failure here 22:15 a lazy wa y to deal with a problem 22:15 the thing I was thinking about doing with glass gear was that it can be shattered unless you erodeproof it, which in glass's case is immune to erosion so instead shatterproofs it 22:15 ya were made from bamboo and tipped with steel arrowheads 22:15 but anyways 22:15 arrows were made from wood shafts and tipped with iron 22:15 or steel 22:16 from what I am reading, the practice ya were tipped with iron 22:16 ones used in battle were forged steel arrowheads 22:17 maybe some dev was a weeb and just wanted all samurai gear to be superior 22:17 katanas? long swords BUT BETTER. samurai arrows? regular arrows BUT ERODEPROOF. 22:17 start with a splint mail? ERODEPROOF IT. 22:17 hei 22:17 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 22:17 katanas ARE better than long swords 22:18 by far 22:18 what, IRL? 22:18 yes 22:18 um yeah 22:18 I don't know enough about swords. 22:18 katanas are lighter and stronger 22:18 its like when you claimed that bones were brittle 22:18 :) 22:19 <[Demo]> some ppls r 22:19 oh and very much sharper 22:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 54223 points, T:7902, killed by a sergeant, while praying 22:27 -!- Zanzabar has joined #hardfought 22:31 -!- Zanzabar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:39 aosdict: I was wondering about magic tools, but I guess a lot of them are made from quite common materials (such as wood or iron), so you're probably more likely to get junk from those golems. 22:40 (Is "golems" the correct plural? It's not golamim, is it? Surely not...) 22:41 web based rc editor is up for SpliceHack 22:41 top scores and zscores up soon 22:52 ok these are up now also 22:53 !who 22:53 K2: [hdf-us] sk1j [fh] 22:53 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players 22:57 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:03 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 23:30 jonadab: https://tio.run/##K6gsycjPM/7/PzO3IL@oRCEzLy0nNbmEq0DBFsbWS81Lz8xL1dDk4iooyswr0SjQK8gpLUrM0VBPz89JzVXX1Pz/HwA 23:36 [hdf-us] [fh] Moo (sk1j) (Mon Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed the master key of thievery", on T:12026