00:01 -!- ykkie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:01 Pavel, needed right near the entrance 00:01 Yes 00:02 Or maybe just a sticky note on my computer 00:02 [hdf-us] [spl] ChiefGreyBush (Dra Ang Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3034 00:05 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:07 ok bedtime, nite all 00:07 o/ 00:14 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 2547 points, T:1346, killed by a magic missile 00:17 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 00:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 00:18 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:20 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 324 points, T:120, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted large phasing permamimic) 00:56 -!- Pavel has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:59 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:05 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- Pavel has quit [Client Quit] 01:24 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 13242 points, T:3909, killed by a killer bee 01:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:43 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 3489 points, T:1671, quit 01:50 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 734 points, T:452, killed by an icy touch 02:02 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 4672 points, T:1160, killed by a monster (soldier ant) Go Team Ant! 02:05 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:10 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 2808 points, T:1100, killed by a monster (huge pile of killer coins) 02:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 6719 points, T:778, killed by a critically injured jedi's explosion 02:46 lol only wanted to dilute my potions 02:56 grats :D 02:56 Meanwhile, I'm flailing around dying to a variant I don't play 02:58 You feel incredibly sick. You are in full health. 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60707 03:13 titan woke up Rodney 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:60708 03:13 The Lizard of Yendor is confused. You kill the Lizard of Yendor! 03:20 The housecat eats a troll corpse. The housecat turns into a quantum mechanic! 03:20 I thought "huh? trolls aren't shapechangers, no?" but of course the cat was a shapechanger 03:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:23 yay sokobag! 03:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:30 yay the nice priestess of Anhur gave me 4 points of protection 03:33 You kill the earth elemental! You hear a crunching sound. 03:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha) killed The Greater Hell-Lichen, on T:3597 03:35 what 03:35 why is this a notification 03:38 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 11990 points, T:3760, killed by a blast of fire 03:55 I lichen thee to a summer's day... with lava flows 03:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:00 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:03 -!- aeoi has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:11 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Mal Cha), 16129 points, T:4130, killed by an elven arrow 04:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 3960 points, T:1541, killed by a magic missile 04:29 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 04:34 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:34 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 04:36 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Mal Cha), 5109 points, T:2309, killed by a monster (living iron chain), while paralyzed by a monster attack 04:36 gah, croesus' throne vanished without doing anything 04:46 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:47 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 04:48 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Mal Cha), 5170 points, T:2427, quit 05:04 argh I dipped my scrolls of enchant weapon in fruit juice instead of holy water 05:04 no wonder they did only 1 point each 05:15 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha) killed the psion of winsalot, the former Kinetic, on T:699 05:16 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 4800 points, T:730, killed by a monster (zaptrooper) 05:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:11 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:16 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:17 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 06:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 3252 points, T:2422, killed by a water demon 06:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 06:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:36 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 47370 points, T:6883, killed by a monster (stinking cloud of Queen Beryl) 06:47 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 763 points, T:815, killed by a monster (Ravenous Bugblatter Beast Of Traal) 06:47 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:49 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Mal Cha) shouted "", on T:39 06:50 Apparently you can't cancel these 06:50 <[Demo]> weird 06:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 06:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:00 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 07:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Mal Cha), 2510 points, T:1872, quit 07:03 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:21 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 07:22 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Unm Fem Cha), 6203 points, T:2394, killed by a monster (grouping ant) 07:23 yay teleport control 07:23 just before the quest, useful 07:27 :D 07:30 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver saber on an altar, on T:3484 07:36 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2268 points, T:4297, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome king 07:42 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 07:42 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61522 08:07 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 08:15 morning morning 08:31 bouquet: not to disappoint you but materials aren't wishable at the moment. (not sure if I like the OPness of having them be wishable.) 08:31 aosdict: Message from Pavel at 2018-05-09 23:54 EDT: I had a couple of weird issues with the include path not being specified properly and the compiler not being able to find some libraries, and also I had to replace `yacc` with `bison -y`. It wasn't actually that major, but it was annoying trying to remember how I made it work laste time. 08:33 !tell Pavel Still not sure how pushing a new release somehow overwrote your Makefiles with new code. Hm, unless it was something that happened in vanilla upstream. 08:33 Will do, aosdict! 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:9371 08:40 maybe he's editing the base makefiles in sys/unix 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 79935 points, T:10394, killed by an elf mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:48 -!- aeoi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:53 How do you keep arc alive? 08:53 They day to anything. 08:53 die 08:55 aosdict: git? :p 08:55 Mandevil: that sounded almost like a joke setup 08:56 Q: How do you keep arc alive? A: You don't. 08:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:00 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02 nice smoky fruit juice :-) 09:02 killed 1 red naga and 4 fire ants between the surface and the castle 09:02 nothing gave me fire resistance though I had cold resistance really early 09:02 (yeti in minetown) 09:05 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:11 yay AC -30 (naked -1) 09:11 haven't done anything to my helmet yet (it's uncursed rusty +0) because I may get a nifty hat from the castle armory 09:12 and my gloves are ordinary blessed unfooproofed +2 but I've got like 2 dozen spare pairs in the temple of anhur on level 15 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +5 helm of brilliance", on T:61806 09:26 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 09:33 I think I've run out of soldiers a bit 09:34 one of the barracks in the castle was full of soldiers, the other had some random monsters mixed in 09:34 Ludios does that, of course 09:40 :) 09:41 you'll run into a barracks full or sergeants and lieutenants 09:41 *of 09:43 haven't seen more than about 3 lieutenants (all of them in ludios) and not a single captain 09:43 the yendorian army is seriously understaffed 09:47 I - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3). 09:47 and there's nothing I really need right now :-) 09:47 !lotg raisse 09:47 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, raisse! 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61944 10:00 raisse: make sure to leave me some more juicey bones 10:01 my current plan was actually to ascend 10:01 lol okay 10:01 next time! 10:01 :p 10:01 literally every game i've played in the last week i've found ur bones and gotten free MR 10:05 Asmodeus casts aspersions on your ancestry. 10:05 I want a spellbook of aspersions so I can cast it, too! :-) 10:06 forgot to leave money in my inventory to pay him off 10:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:7056 10:10 argh I confused asmo and he read a scroll of teleport just then 10:10 well, I'll see him around 10:17 <@Pavel> I always find elenmirie's bones. 10:17 @Pavel: Message from aosdict at 2018-05-10 08:33 EDT: Still not sure how pushing a new release somehow overwrote your Makefiles with new code. Hm, unless it was something that happened in vanilla upstream. 10:17 !who 10:17 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] hypnotist [nh361] Grasshopper [nh361] MiseryMyra [xnh] 10:17 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] Raisse [nh361] 10:18 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:19 !whereis AmyBSOD 10:19 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] AmyBSOD is not currently playing on this server. 10:19 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sco Her Mal Neu) T:18436 The Dungeons of Doom level: 14 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class t, on T:62054 10:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13926 points, T:8746, killed by a tiger 10:32 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 45168 points, T:2636, killed by the wrath of Tyr 10:35 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 10:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 115 points, T:724, killed by a jackal 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62256 10:38 killing myself to get into 0.2.0, let's do this 10:39 aaand nice, found a bug already 10:40 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 10:43 Poes the balrog is doing very nicely at the moment, she wields a +9 rustproof katana, has an amulet of reflection and unihorn 10:43 Status of Poes (chaotic): Level 35 HP 262(262) AC -18, tame, fast. 10:43 go Poes! 10:43 she's more powerful than me... 10:43 aosdict: what bug did ya find? 10:43 aosdict: Feature-request: Occasionally generate an engraving next to the starting stairs the reads "Abandon all work, ye who enter here." 10:44 K2: chests are being generated as "mysterious" (material = 0) 10:44 Grasshopper: i had a purple worm up to lvl 47 from a recent game. drown at Juiblex level :/ 10:44 aosdict ah 10:45 Pavel: Too on the nose (and bad code-wise) to specifically generate it next to the starting stairs; however I have no problem with making it a random engraving. 10:45 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46 THat works too 10:48 K2: Hm, it seems like it's actually made of wood, but some piece of code was left out that is failing to recognize the new material. 10:49 * aosdict squints at objnam.c 10:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:51 * K2 hands aosdict his new glasses that he hates having to wear sometimes 10:52 * aosdict puts on the glasses over his existing glasses 10:53 found it 10:53 heheheh 10:58 I feel like my life has become an endless chain of misapplying patch files and then debugging. I can't believe I spent 20 minutes tracking down an error caused by the one line I fixed by hand. 10:58 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-09 23:33 EDT: there's still an issue with Elbereth conduct not recording how many times you engrave it 10:59 AntiGulp: consider yourself lucky, some of slex's crash bugs took much longer than that to fix 10:59 Why are you doing so much with patch files? 11:00 ooh you added a new txt file 11:00 I'm not actually doing that much with patch files, I just had some major issues with one. There was a conflict that I fixed manually and made a typo in, which blew up spectacularly. 11:00 this might be useful for me putting shirt messages in one 11:02 K2: pushed an update 11:02 ok 11:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 11:06 K2: What was the issue with Elbereth not recording? I enabled the display outside of wizard mode just now, and I think it works? 11:07 its inconsistient 11:08 i posted details about it on the issue tracker for your github repo 11:08 ZAPM has a lot more significant quaff-id penalties than nethack 11:08 > Pavel, Killed by drinking a canister of napalm in the space base at depth 2. 11:10 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:11 K2: Interesting... it appears that vanilla nethack allows scaring monsters with lowercase elbereth, but only rewards wisdom with uppercase Elbereth. 11:12 Also, the ZAPM equivalent of cursed identify destroys it's target. 11:13 AntiGulp yup 11:13 so may have discovered a minor vanilla bug in the process 11:14 K2: good thing you're here! can you please make an extra backup of my AmyBSOD slex savegame on hdf-eu? I'm on the level with the quest portal, and just in case the quest fails to generate (making the game unwinnable because no bell of opening), I'd like to have a fallback save ;) 11:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 28 points, T:94, killed by a jackal 11:23 sure. or you could fix your variant so the quest levels generate ;) 11:24 because, you know... that's kind of an important bit 11:24 well... the source archive supplies an up-to-date makefile, it's up to you to actually use that one instead of keeping an outdated one around ;) 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62472 11:24 i do update them 11:25 i did when you released 2.2.2 11:25 anyway, please tell me when the backup is created, then I resume my game 11:25 bwahaha my orc rogue spawned with a plastic orcish short sword 11:25 * K2 goes to lunch 11:25 I guess I should always notify you if the makefiles are changed ;) 11:25 good thing I didn't change its damage 11:25 K2: wait! is the backup there? 11:26 hahahah 11:26 one sec 11:26 but that's another bug, u_init items shouldn't be different materials 11:26 ok save backed up LarienTelrunya 11:26 thanks a lot! :) now I'll see if the quest generates properly! 11:26 hopefully I don't die before I make it to the portal :P 11:27 ah, found it! 11:27 * LarienTelrunya crosses fingers... 11:28 ... good thing we made that backup! 11:28 Couldn't load "Sco-strt.lev" - making a maze. 11:28 why is that happening??? 11:28 <[Demo]> slex quest levels dont need to work 11:28 <[Demo]> it's not like anyone but amy and tariru ever make it there 11:28 <[Demo]> and maybe the occasional lucky adventurer 11:29 Makefile.dat does compile Scholar.des and Sco-strt is in there 11:29 !tell K2 when you're back from lunch, can you please check Makefile.dat for this line: Form.des Feminist.des Tracer.des Nuclear.des Scholar.des 11:29 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 11:30 hmm, or maybe it's that old dlb bug again? but that can't actually be 11:31 <[Demo]> is the number of roles stored in an xchar somewhere and uve overflowed it? :P 11:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 74 points, T:272, killed by a boulder 11:32 that would cause different bugs, also slex no longer has xchars 11:32 the levels just didn't get compiled for some reason, even though I *know* I updated all makefiles accordingly 11:33 maybe the makefiles are copied somewhere by the setup script and that setup script wasn't run after the makefiles were updated, I dunno 11:33 huh 11:33 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-10 11:29 EDT: when you're back from lunch, can you please check Makefile.dat for this line: Form.des Feminist.des Tracer.des Nuclear.des Scholar.des 11:33 it would be great to have a makefile that simply automatically processes all .des files, but I don't know how to make one :( 11:33 so on hdf-us the right makefile exists 11:33 gah, have to break my habits of searching all over walls for secret doors... that cannot happen on DL1 11:33 but not on eu 11:33 K2: ahh that's probably it 11:33 those are missing from eu makefile 11:34 here's the up-to-date makefile: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/master/sys/unix/Makefile.dat 11:34 when i updated slex to 2.2.2 i know i made a point to update the makesfile but must have only did it on hdf-us 11:34 my bad 11:34 hi 11:34 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 11:34 FIQ: Message from K2 at 2018-05-09 21:20 EDT: see pm please 11:34 K2: will look into it 11:35 aosdict: This materials patch looks awesome on so many levels. 11:35 must have been sleepy 11:35 FIQ thanks 11:35 !tell K2 fixed a bug concerning bouquet's save 11:35 Will do, FIQ! 11:35 ok 11:35 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-10 11:35 EDT: fixed a bug concerning bouquet's save 11:35 K2: no problem, now that my savegame is backed up nothing's really lost :) 11:35 K2: after you have updated the game, alter his save as described previously 11:36 and no 11:36 I didn't fix the bug in 10 seconds 11:36 -!- Pavel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 but it was quick enough that I figured I'd just do the general procedure IRC-wise 11:36 all at once 11:36 K2: do you need the diffs? those would be https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/4e08abaabec50106e0e07bb1c2ecc9c9357e086d#diff-0dea889df48850e2d540fc2a96bcc98f and https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/b76ffd8a71f2016a2e541875cfdde8becc93d9e0#diff-0dea889df48850e2d540fc2a96bcc98f 11:38 I also have done significant work towards fixing krm's problem 11:38 turns out that timers and magic chests... don't play very well 11:38 at all 11:39 I hate object timeout code 11:39 it usually doesn't break down because I like to leave it alone 11:39 but whenever they do, the bugs tend to be the hardest to fix 11:39 FIQ: heh, "slashem hallucination bug" :P 11:40 that one was so hard to track down that I grew a beard while trying to find a way to fix it 11:41 because who would expect that hallucinated tools would contain eggs whose timers persist after the tool was removed? 11:41 AntiGulp: Mostly courtesy of GruntHack, with some of the exorbitant things toned down. 11:41 FIQ ok sounds good 11:42 LarienTelrunya it may be a while before i can correct the makefile for slex on hdf-eu 11:42 that will take some time and i will be away here shortly 11:42 K2: okay, I'll play different variants until then ;) please use !tell when you did it, and I also need to have my save restored from the backup :D 11:43 will do 11:43 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 11:44 * aosdict finds Vorpal Blade just lying around on DL3 11:44 FIQ I can make the edit to bouquet's save, can you refresh my memory please? dont know if i'll have time to dig through a couple days worth of chat here 11:44 aosdict: Ah, gotcha. I'll have to look more at it later, it's such a great concept and way of making items more interesting. 11:44 I'm working on something vaguely similar right now with object enchantments. 11:44 How so? 11:44 maybe I'll play some gruuuuuuuuuunthack ;) 11:45 I'm testing out rarely giving objects enchantments (i.e. icy, flaming). Nothing anywhere close to the level of artifacts, just tiny bonuses and effects. 11:45 AntiGulp: Ah, so object properties? 11:45 A la GruntHack and FIQHack? 11:46 I wasn't aware they were implemented there, so yeah, pretty much! 11:46 "Object properties" seems to be the term because "enchantment" makes you think of its +4 or whatever. 11:46 ooh good point 11:47 So, take a look at GruntHack, probably, since FIQHack's architecture is much different. 11:47 And then take a look at FIQHack for the appropriately balanced object properties ;-) 11:48 (Grunt has things like vorpal which mean that you can randomly die to literally almost anything capable of throwing a dagger) 11:50 Woah Vorpal is a random power? That sounds... pretty evil. 11:50 I mean, it can still happen in vanilla with Vorpal Blade but it's _incredibly_ less likely, plus monsters won't throw it. 11:50 AntiGulp: Grunthack is the evil variant. 11:50 !who 11:50 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 11:50 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [gh] Raisse [nh361] 11:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63040 11:57 wat, statuscolors doesn't work for #overview? wat 11:57 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 11:57 K2: just do this: 11:57 1: on line 1, replace done with save 11:57 Oh man I really like how autoquivered stuff remembers it's autoquivered once you throw all of it 11:57 2: remove the last line, it should be "Q" 11:57 this will rewind the save back in time until just before he died 11:58 don't worry, he'll die again 11:58 but the save will not crash this time 11:59 ok done. thanks FIQ 11:59 !tell bouquet your save should be fixed now, can die gracefully 11:59 Will do, K2! 11:59 ok i gotta go for a bit, bbl 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63198 12:00 aosdict: Vorpal does exist as a property even in FIQHack 12:00 It just doesn't generate 12:00 So it can only be gotten by potions of wonder 12:00 ??potion of wonder 12:00 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Potion_of_wonder 12:01 Good FIQbot. 12:01 Oooh a silver pick-axe 12:01 Shame I'm not an arc 12:01 wow, monsters zap you with polymorph in grunthack :O rip splint mail 12:01 and people call *slex* unfair and evil 12:01 Poly is probably still the better one. 12:02 I want to make monsters throw potions of polymorph in FIQHack 12:02 Cancellation is the evil part. 12:02 FIQhack confirmed grunthack 2.0 :P 12:02 !oWonder can give perma-levitation? 12:02 b - a pair of silver hard shoes 12:02 c - a pair of wooden hard shoes. no thanks. 12:03 those sound really uncomfortable 12:03 and this is all in the top 2 floors of the mines 12:03 The Dutch make these. 12:03 aosdict: wooden shoes can be very lovely, I own a pair of high-heeled ebony sandals ♥ 12:04 aosdict: Is there any difference between the various materials other than weight? 12:04 I'm sure they can _look_ pretty, but they sure won't be comfortable. 12:04 LarienTelrunya: did you ever add real potions of wonder to slex 12:04 Pavel: Current differences are weight, price, AC for armor, and special effects like silver affecting demons. 12:04 holy hell what is this, I use n50s and my stupid character only waits for 2-3 turns 12:04 there is literally nothing visible that could interrupt me and I'm getting no messages or anything 12:04 Mandevil: Yes, it can. Until you press > 12:05 Ok 12:05 Pavel: I need to think of other special effects for other materials to have. Chris_ANG suggested gold versus undead. 12:05 Intrinsic levitation is simply controlled levitation without a timeout 12:05 FIQ: you mean a potion that gives/removes intrinsics? yes, but with a different name 12:05 FIQ: Did you consider blessed potion to bias the intrinsics towards "good" ones? 12:05 Pressing > will make it go away. It will not come back 12:05 Iron harming elves is probably another. 12:05 If I have a "a +0 elven chain mail (being worn)", do I have to use a scroll of ID to tell it's material? 12:05 Mandevil: Makes it too good I think 12:05 FIQ: function intrinsicgainorloss() 12:05 Pavel: If it has no specified material, it's the base. 12:05 FIQ: I cannot disagree. 12:05 Ok 12:05 And you can look up the base with /. 12:05 LarienTelrunya: what about object properties 12:05 FIQ: can be added to an armor piece with the scroll of armor specialization 12:06 (weapons or other non-armor items don't have properties in slex) 12:06 ok 12:06 WTF 12:07 aosdict: Idea for gold items: They can be stolen by Leprechauns and are more likely to be stolen by Nymphs than other items. 12:07 I like the former 12:07 !tell K2 I just zappd myself with a wand of polymorph in Grunthack and briefly saw how I became a yellow mold, but then it crashed. Segfault, or maybe floating-point exception? 12:07 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 12:07 Pavel: Yeah, good idea. 12:07 I don't think nymphs should care more about gold items than anything else 12:07 They like shiny things, right? 12:07 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *poof*] 12:07 However, these need some actual benefits - what I am trying to avoid is always-go-for-silver. 12:07 Leppies, yes 12:07 and no autorecover in grunthack :( 12:08 aosdict: Silver is only useful on weapons. 12:08 You could reduce the silver damage 12:08 FIQ: Well, silver is okay on boots and gloves too. 12:09 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 12:09 It impedes casting 12:09 If you want to kick or punch monsters with them 12:09 aosdict: Silver IRL corrosed super quickly 12:09 Probably moreso than other metals 12:09 FIQ: Complaint: arcs in FIQhack start with pick-axe in slot d instead of e. 12:09 So it could have a higher chance of being corroded by rust traps/monsters 12:09 FIQ: ... Actually I don't think I accounted for metal materials in casting. 12:09 aosdict: Well, you should 12:10 Well, all the slots are changed! 12:10 That's BAD! 12:10 Mandevil: I've noticed the shuffling. I haven't really cared 12:10 FIQ: Okay, it uses is_metallic 12:10 I #quit 12:10 This is unacceptable. 12:10 * LarienTelrunya starts playing dnhslex 12:10 You quit because some itmes happens to be in the wrong starting slots...? 12:10 That's even more petty than LarienTelrunya reasons 12:10 Mandevil: don't you always #adjust the pick-axe to the same slot with every char anyway? I usually set mine to x 12:11 and okay, is_metallic had itself updated to use otmp->material, we're all good here 12:11 > You are beginning to feel hungry 12:11 > Stomach grumbles IRL 12:11 LarienTelrunya: I set mine to e. 12:11 LarienTelrunya: Because arc was the first char I ascended with. 12:11 Pavel: What was the item you were trying to look up recently with "/i" and couldn't find? 12:11 Pavel: you know you've played too much nethack if you try to satiate RL hunger ingame 12:11 Gauntlets of power? 12:11 Yes 12:12 FIQ: Man, I *wish* I had a cream pie right now. 12:12 #loot in dnethack shops isn't overpowered at all :P 12:12 Uh, where can I switch off this abhorrent non-ascii graphics? 12:12 "leather pair of fighting gloves" I guess leather gloves are trivial to identify in variants with the materials patch 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:63365 12:13 Hm, for some reason it's called 'tileset'. 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:63369 12:13 Mandevil: well, it is 12:13 a tileset 12:13 so... 12:14 !who 12:14 FIQ: [hdf-us] Tmasher [slex] Nobbs [nh343] Grasshopper [nh361] aosdict [xnh] 12:14 FIQ: [hdf-eu] Mandevil [fh] Raisse [nh361] 12:14 LarienTelrunya: you should play 4k if grunthack is giving you trouble 12:14 When I press [enter] it pops a question "What do you want to send?" 12:14 What does that mean? 12:14 after all, you like 4k 12:14 Mandevil: hmm 12:14 enter is ctrl+m 12:14 FIQ: but I already ascended fourk a while ago :P I want to play something that I haven't ascended yet 12:15 I forgot that 12:15 anyway, it's bound to #mail 12:15 I will remove the keybinding 12:15 sure, fourk is a great variant, but the novelty quickly wears off after you ascended once 12:15 And... what does sending mail do anyway? 12:16 I sent a mail. 12:16 No idea where it went. 12:17 if you move, it should send 12:17 LarienTelrunya: Try ZAPM :P 12:17 Sends mail to oneself? 12:17 Why is that useful? 12:17 !tell Chris_ANG In 3.15.2, feeling itchy/relief still seems wonky. It happens when random unrelated things happen, e.g. when leveling up, even though I didn't change equipment... 12:17 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 12:17 Mandevil: Yes. It's useful for replying to others 12:17 Mandevil: plane of air without levitation :P 12:17 Have you never used enhanced NH4 watchmode? 12:17 LarienTelrunya: haha 12:18 Pavel: maybe someday 12:18 Mandevil: I worked on improving watching in NH4 variants some months ago 12:18 spectating, that is 12:18 It works a bit differently in FIQHack than it does elswehere dgl-wise 12:18 In all seriousness though. ZAPM is awesome. 12:19 Mandevil: Basically what I did was that instead of playing back a ttyrec 12:19 Pavel: I agree; so much so in fact, that I made a full ZAPM branch in slex ;) 12:19 it runs a "native" FIQHack process 12:19 That was quick. 12:19 Mandevil: why don't you play the best role? 12:19 FIQ: Nice. 12:19 so you can farlook 12:19 look at other dungeon levels in overview 12:19 LarienTelrunya: I don't play SLEX, sorry. 12:19 check around 12:19 etc 12:19 Mandevil: the best role exists in FIQhack too! 12:20 without being restricted by the player 12:20 it also uses your own UI settings 12:20