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Curses again? 01:50 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50 -!- LarienTelrunya_ has joined #hardfought 01:51 stupid internet explorer why do you reset my webchat tab 01:51 !tell Winsalot works as intended, the pokedex will randomly give stats of either your base role or race ;) 01:51 Will do, LarienTelrunya_! 01:51 !tell Tariru weird... can't really tell what's going on, but maybe a core dump was created 01:51 Will do, LarienTelrunya_! 01:52 !tell K2 hmm, apparently Tariru had a segfault in slex yesterday; automatic recovery worked, so he can go on playing, but can you check whether there's a core dump? with a backtrace I might be able to see why it happened ;) 01:52 Will do, LarienTelrunya_! 01:53 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56 -!- LarienTelrunya_ is now known as LarienTelrunya 01:56 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:00 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:02 K2: are you implying that fh is poorly optimized 02:11 huh, jonadab isn't here :( and the EPI page is also down 02:15 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 02:15 yaaaaaaay jonadab! you're back! ♥ 02:35 !tell K2 slex update ready at the current master branch: fixes some potential dumplog-related segfaults, some minor interface improvements, and changes the previously borked bones file routine to a better one ;) 02:35 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:42 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 02:46 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:59 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:14 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:12 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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And if you enter the floor that it's on and the floor in question is not the sanctum, the amulet has a 1 in 3 chance of levelporting down randomly again. 07:21 Without ever giving a message that it did, of course. :D 07:41 wooo just encountered my first bones that i've ever found playing on hardfought.org 07:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] xhypnotist (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 310 points, T:2509, killed by a large cat 07:42 and it was myself, lol. Seriously makes me wonder what the bones pool number is set to 07:49 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 151198 points, T:37159, killed by a panther 07:50 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 66 points, T:135, killed by a little dog called Fritz 07:51 FIQ: not implying anything 07:51 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya_ at 2018-05-08 01:52 EDT: hmm, apparently Tariru had a segfault in slex yesterday; automatic recovery worked, so he can go on playing, but can you check whether there's a core dump? with a backtrace I might be able to see why it happened ;) 07:51 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-08 02:35 EDT: slex update ready at the current master branch: fixes some potential dumplog-related segfaults, some minor interface improvements, and changes the previously borked bones file routine to a better one ;) 07:52 LarienTelrunya: I see you can always improve on my evilness 07:52 :D 07:53 the drop mechanism was to make people stop drop grinding when casting 07:53 it is a no-brainer. drop amulet, cast, pick it up again. 07:53 completely ignoring the cast penalties 07:54 in UnNetHack you have to make a choice. choices are good :) 07:54 LarienTelrunya compiling 07:55 K2: yay :) 07:55 bhaak: in slex you simply cannot drop the amulet, and therefore also not circumvent the penalty :P 07:55 (throwing it doesn't work either, I basically re-used the loadstone code) 07:56 but it can be stolen? 07:57 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 07:58 LarienTelrunya i see a coredump 07:58 one sec 07:58 bhaak: yes, of course 07:58 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:59 K2: thanks for the update, just verified that my save on hdf-eu still loads: it does! :) 08:01 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:01 LarienTelrunya --> http://termbin.com/jdqx 08:01 thanks! something with long worms again :( 08:02 apparently a long worm tried to move and the game choked when trying to place a segment?! 08:03 "worm=worm@entry=0x2157b70" I guess that means a worm did in fact exist 08:04 but maybe seg->wx or seg->wy had invalid coordinates 08:04 SpliceHack updated (us and eu) 08:05 !tell Tariru Your crash seems to be related to long worms. Those have been bugged earlier, although I still haven't been able to narrow down the exact cause. Did you see any long worms shortly before you crashed, and if yes, did they do anything unusual? 08:05 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 08:10 <[Demo]> look out for long worms! 08:11 LarienTelrunya: have you changed them? otherwise you could look at the changes in unnethack or other variants. 08:11 for a long time in 3.4.3, the only real nemeses were the long worm crashes 08:11 bhaak: I've applied one of the 3.6.x bugfixes that's supposed to fix them crashing when trying to split a 1HP long worm 08:12 apart from that they're unchanged, but then again, SLASH'EM is different from vanilla NetHack so maybe there's some unknown bug 08:12 ah, I remember the 1 HP bug. but I almost certain that there were more issues 08:16 jonadab: Making the Amulet block regen just means that you'll be dropping it and standing in one place for a long time instead of dropping it, casting a spell or two, and then moving on. 08:17 evil idea, make it sip away HP :-) 08:18 if you want to be extremely evil, make it leech off max HP 08:24 aosdict: BUt what if it goes back to the Sanctum if you drop it? 08:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:47 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonadab (Cav Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4615 08:59 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh361] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:30179 09:19 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3405 10:07 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:26 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 10:42 <@Winsalot> Yo guys, can anyone help me setup irc? I decided that disord kinda sucks, though its very good compared to some other alternatives 10:42 @Winsalot: Message from LarienTelrunya_ at 2018-05-08 01:51 EDT: works as intended, the pokedex will randomly give stats of either your base role or race ;) 10:45 <@Winsalot> Like how do I get this remote server that everyone here seems to be using? 10:46 <@Winsalot> What is the preferred IRC interface if Im on xubuntu? 10:47 @Winsalot there are several, and I'm sure folks here will have suggestions. I'm also a fan of irccloud.com 10:47 browser based client. Works well. 10:49 @winsalot how much do you like terminals? irssi and weechat are the general go-tos which run in a terminal 10:49 also are you planning to set up a bouncer or home server to run your client constantly? 10:50 <@Winsalot> I would prefer to setup server I think. Though im not sure how important that is 10:50 <@Winsalot> Also I have no servers of my own 😃 10:53 IRC doesn't show you messages that were sent while your client was disconnected. So if you have a desktop you're okay with running constantly, that suffices. If you don't particularly care about missing messages or are okay with going to Discord to get the messages, that suffices too. 10:54 -!- PavelB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:56 <@Winsalot> Hm, bot will still message me once I log back on if someone leaves a message with !tell right? 10:58 @Winsalot yes, bots often will, although they're not really built into IRC. They're a side thing. 10:58 but yes, if you're in a channel with a bot that supports such a thing. works great. 11:08 <@Winsalot> Ok, now I'm kinda confused on how to rgister freenode nick. According to freenode instructions I need to type /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com somehwere 11:08 <@Winsalot> not sure where 11:09 you have to be connected to the network, with the nick you want to register 11:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:38 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 11:42 <@Winsalot> Does anyone know, if I have an item equiped as alternate weapon will I still get it's passive effects? 11:42 <@Winsalot> In slex in this case 11:42 <@Winsalot> Like I wield it and then press x 11:43 <@Winsalot> nvm 😃 11:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Client Quit] 12:00 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Kni Hum Fem Law), 11133 points, T:10740, killed by a system shock 12:16 <@Winsalot> finally conected to wifi with my terminal-only laptop 😄 12:17 * aosdict gives Winsalot a blessed spellbook of the Arch Wiki 12:17 nice thing about arch is the wiki is fantastic 12:17 <@Winsalot> Hm, mtf and others convinced me to not use arch 12:17 <@Winsalot> I'm using ubuntu server now 😃 12:18 <@Winsalot> At least I am already familliar how to run sudo apt install 😃 12:24 <@mtf> hahah remember what I said about power users? that would be aos 12:24 oh well the Arch wiki is still pretty relevant for a lot of things even if you don't use arch 12:25 @mtf I'm not sure I'd consider myself a power user... the set of things I use this laptop for is pretty small 12:26 <@mtf> I'd wager my rent that anybody who develops nethack or nethack variants is a linux power user 12:28 LarienTelrunya. Boom. Counterexample. 12:28 ^ what he said 12:28 give me your rentz 12:29 <@mtf> she's not??? really 12:29 she, for some reason, sticks with Windows 12:29 <@mtf> dammit amy, I needed that rent money 12:31 do you really find it surprising that the slex dev has special preferences? 12:31 -!- PavelB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:32 <@mtf> I think deep down inside I knew it to be true, I just didn't want to believe it 12:34 i'm still going to pitch irccloud.com for folks that are uninterested in spending their lives configuring irc clients. ;) 12:34 their paid service is also a 24x7 proxy, but not necessary 12:34 (also has a nice iphone/android app so you can get pinged when you get nick mentioned. Kind of turns irc into slack) 12:34 <@mtf> seems neat 12:35 <@mtf> you could... also just get discord, and come to our side of the bridge 😛 12:35 nah, if i'm going something else proprietary, will be slack. I idle on a half dozen slack instances 12:35 <@mtf> I use slack for work, it's not that much different than discord IMO 12:36 <@mtf> definitely more fully featured 12:36 slack is very annoyingly resource heavy on my browser 12:36 <@mtf> but I like that discord is more tied into the gaming world 12:41 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/443452503628054540/IMG_20180508_193321696.jpg 12:42 <@Winsalot> Beautiful :). Nethakc is alrwady playable 12:42 I approve of the cpu 12:43 i like the little low voltage U7xxx 12:43 laptop cpus make great little fanless servers (if you need local server) 12:51 <@Winsalot> I guess I will need some sort of window manager now. Is that right? 12:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 12:58 not really, for ubuntu server... 13:01 @Winsalot: trying to catch up to the backscroll, most of the time off-hand weapons won't give their special effects, but if the effects themselves are bad (interface screw effects on some artifacts for example) then they may still apply :P 13:03 and about the discord/irc thing: this channel has logs, so you won't miss any messages either way ;) 13:04 @mtf: hahahahahahaha I guess you lost that bet :P It's true, I grew up with windows. Used 3.1 when I was little, then 95, 98, thankfully skipped the awfulness that is ME, and am now using XP at home and 7 at work. 13:05 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:05 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:07 I think mtf's main question was along the lines of, why do you continue to use Windows when Linux is available. 13:07 AntiGulp: Finished my object materials port and am now pulling in splicehack features :) 13:07 aosdict: aaaaaaaay 13:07 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-06 12:03 EDT: thanks for the heads up. SpliceHack is updated 13:07 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2018-05-07 22:57 EDT: posted an issue on your splicehack github page, along with a solution 13:07 I've been incorporating a lot of your suggested changes, and wow have things improved. 13:08 aosdict: well I dunno, if you have used a specific operating system (say, Unix) since the age of 6 and then, 25 years later, someone tells you to use a different OS (say, Windows), would you make the switch? probably not :D 13:09 that said, at work I have a unix VM that I use for slex-related stuff sometimes 13:09 As a developer, Linux is a lot friendlier though. 13:09 Though you code in wordpad so I'm not sure there's any hope. 13:09 :P 13:09 wordpad rox! 13:11 K2: I'm working on implementing livelogging right now, using Tangles code. Hopefully I should have that done relatively soon. 13:13 !who 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] fusillade [nh361] 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] 13:13 !whereis AmyBSOD 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] AmyBSOD is not currently playing on this server. 13:13 wat 13:13 wtf I'm playing on hdf-eu, is whereis broken? 13:13 !who 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] fusillade [nh361] 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] BSOD2 [slex] 13:13 !whereis BSOD2 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] BSOD2 is not currently playing on this server. 13:13 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] BSOD2 [slex]: (Cou Dee Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 13:18 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:28 FIQ: do fiqhack monsters use un-id'ed wands? 13:29 i.e. will the gnome automagically know that's a wand of death on teh ground, and to zap it at you? 13:29 (in fiqhack) 13:36 There's some graffiti on the water here. You read: "WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS USE FIRE". 13:39 <@Tone> on the water? 13:39 <@Koumakan> straight fire 13:42 Ulch - that meat was tainted! You feel deathly sick. What do you want to eat? [eABJM or ?*,] This eucalyptus leaf is delicious! You stuff yourself and then vomit voluminously. What a relief! You can move again. 13:45 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:46 AntiGulp: wait I'm confused on how exactly masks behave now. 13:47 aosdict: This'll take a second, they're a little complicated 13:47 Basically, a mask allows you to permanently remain polymorphed into a form as long as you are wearing it. Once you take it off, you rehumanize. 13:47 The catch is that each time it is removed for any reason, it degrades the BUC status 13:48 Putting on a cursed mask will deal damage and break the mask. 13:48 But a cursed mask still allows a temporary polymorph. 13:49 And no more intrinsic unchanging? 13:49 No. It felt unfair / not in the spirit of the game, and I didn't want to deal with the bugs that you mentioned. 13:50 Yeah, the way I justify xnh's use of that is that it only triggers in situations that, in vanilla, would have just killed you. 13:51 That makes sense. 13:51 aaaaand I just implemented the wrong version of the logfile patch. aaagh 13:51 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 14:01 AntiGulp: Doesn't 3.6.1 already have xlogfile these days? 14:01 Oh, wait, you mean livelog. 14:01 nvm 14:01 jonadab: Yeah, livelog. 14:02 Hmmm it's also causing me compile-time errors because of passing const strings into a function that takes a char*. 14:02 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:05 aosdict: Does livelog normally cause warnings about passing in const char arrays to livelog_write_string? 14:06 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 14:09 AntiGulp: That sounds like an actual problem potentially. (It's generally best not to ignore warnings unless you _know_ they are spurious.) 14:10 However, this is inherently different in NH4 (and thus Fourk) because we have msgprintf() 14:10 Due to buffsz-purge. 14:11 Maybe ask aosdict or Chris_ANG, someone who works with 3.x code more than I do. 14:12 xnh has livelog, I compile with -Wall and see no warnings. 14:12 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 14:14 So I'm inclined to say it's an actual problem. 14:14 Huh, this is really weird. I get a ton of "discards qualifiers" errors, and I'm using the same implementation. 14:16 Wait I think I might have solved it. The implementation I was copying has livelog_write_string taking a char*, not a const char*. That would do it. 14:20 That seems to have solved the problem! 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So again, how does martial arts skill count for enchantment? 15:05 rikersan: LarienTelrunya: https://gist.github.com/copperwater/655cf43a7366c91983f9fb226c9391b6 15:06 Vanessa is pretty good, adding that 15:06 ah, hi Winsalot! sorry I completely forgot about that. If you're a monk, higher experience levels count as higher enchantment, otherwise it always counts as +0, which is obviously rather sucky; I don't know if having +4 gloves would help 15:06 aosdict: thanks! I see the name "Euryale" in there, will you add "Stheno" as well? 15:07 <@Winsalot> What about psion? Apparently it's also martial arts based role. 15:07 tfw you castle dive, find a wand of wishing, and then this one damn shockign sphere blasts you and the wands kill you 15:07 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 15:07 aosdict: I've known 2 vanessas and they both qualify as demons :P 15:07 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 15:07 also Tiffany 15:08 I learned recently tha'ts actually from the 12th century 15:08 <@Winsalot> rikersan: rip 15:08 rikersan: I knew one Vanessa and she was very sexy, especially when crushing my fingers with her thick footwear :) 15:08 tmi 15:08 I considered Stheno, but I a) am not sure about adding _either_ of the other two gorgons at all, so Euryale is on ice already, and b) Stheno seems odder to English readers. 15:09 aosdict: the presence of an Amy in the demons list is because of me I hope? ;) 15:09 you should add the d&d gorgon as well 15:09 the metal bull thingy 15:09 LarienTelrunya: Well, I found it on wikipedia, so I have factual basis if anyone asks... ;) 15:10 aosdict: are cyndane and messaana from wheel of time? 15:10 yep 15:10 or are they actually demons 15:10 thought I was the only reader of that 15:10 also mesaana has one s doesn't it? 15:10 lol no 15:11 nero has read most of sanderson's work as well iirc 15:11 I added Ishamael but decided to reduce it to its biblical form 15:11 ah 15:11 and the other wot "demons" didn't really seem as good sounding 15:11 dunno how worried you are about overlap (probably not) but berith & lillith are both in dnh as too 15:12 I am okay with Lilith, since duh, how could you NOT have that as a foocubus name. 15:12 aosdict: rahvin isn't bad 15:12 well ya 15:12 TIL berith is female 15:12 I think chris misgendered that 15:12 Ooh, I completely forgot about Rahvin. 15:12 yea 15:12 very demony 15:12 Especially since he's one of the more lecherous Forsaken. 15:12 aginor and balthamel are very nice sounding as well 15:13 LarienTelrunya: why are you not watching ESC with us in #ascension.run? 15:13 * aosdict slaps face 15:13 ESC? 15:13 eurovision farce contest? is it today? 15:13 I still remember that one line, "I've almost forgotten the pleasures of the flesh... but Balthamel remembers much" 15:13 LarienTelrunya: first semi finale 15:13 ~~ aginor in first book, fits perfectly 15:13 rikersan: hah, that's ironic because Aran'gar 15:13 LOL 15:13 bhaak: so you want me to join? I need to use KiwiIRC for that though because the maintainer of that channel dislikes webchat :P 15:14 I was thinking of Balthamos, but since he's an angel in HDM, it didn't make any sense. Balthamel sounds more demony hough. 15:14 yea 15:14 fallen angel-y to me at least 15:14 LarienTelrunya: yeah, GoldenIvy, me, and kerio are watching. 15:14 don't tell ivy that I'm joining, it should be a surprise for her :D 15:15 demandred is good but not quite as demon-y i guess 15:15 I also read through the first like 30 chapters of Genesis yesterday looking for more names but didn't really find anything good 15:15 LOL google for "the forsaken" gives me moraine in the list 15:15 Talking about demon names, please don't forget "Ftumch" 15:15 aosdict: deuteronomy and numbers are better for that 15:16 Ftumch was accidentally summoned by Nigel Planer in the Young Ones (TV series) 15:16 bel'lal is already in dnh I _think_? not sure, you can definitely reuse tho 15:16 when he sneezed and accidentally said "Ftumch" 15:16 Belal sounds too much like a unique. 15:16 and don't forgot graendal and semirhage 15:16 graendal would be _perfect_ 15:16 Demandred is out because of all the jokes about Demandgreen, Demandblue, and Demandyellow. 15:17 10/10 15:17 Really? I rejected Graendal for some reason (but it is very thematic) 15:17 hm 15:17 Eh, can't remember why I did, she's back in 15:17 graendal was defintiely a succubus, complete with mindcontrol & beauty 15:18 moridin might be good as a name as well 15:18 wow these books are like full of good names tbh 15:18 Semirhage... both is a little weird in english, and is NOT thematic. 15:18 ^ 15:18 I'm almost tempted to ask if you can include nyneave as a nymph 15:19 just think that would be the peak of irony 15:19 haha 15:19 no protagonists I think 15:19 Tariru: wow congratulations on beating that version of the nightmare quest, I never managed to complete that one myself due to all the nasty items used by the monsters 15:19 I'm happy with the Greek lineup of nymphs 15:19 ^ 15:19 would be interesting if you included neverwere 15:19 from dnh 15:19 It was pretty nasty, I had to wand everything out of the way quickly. 15:19 Tariru: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-07 01:47 EDT: that branch issue on the castle is due to the change to rooms I've made; thankfully I managed to find a way to hijack the code to force the generation of a branch anyway :) 15:19 Tariru: Message from LarienTelrunya_ at 2018-05-08 01:51 EDT: weird... can't really tell what's going on, but maybe a core dump was created 15:19 Tariru: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-08 08:05 EDT: Your crash seems to be related to long worms. Those have been bugged earlier, although I still haven't been able to narrow down the exact cause. Did you see any long worms shortly before you crashed, and if yes, did they do anything unusual? 15:19 basically vampire nymphs w/ spells 15:20 ...someone with lycanythropy resistance? 15:20 ooh LarienTelrunya I might have your long worm solution, is it happeneing whenever you kill a long worm? 15:20 I don't think I picked up anything too nasty in that quest, other than losing shock resistance. 15:20 rikersan: I'm not sure, the backtrace sounds like the worm was trying to move and then the segment failed to be placed? 15:20 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 15:21 ah, not that 15:21 I can't really remember the crash now. Can't remember any long worms at the moment it crashed. 15:21 It did crash when I was shooting a wand at unseen enemies though. 15:22 But as far as telepathy had shown, there were just liches in the room I was firing in. 15:22 rikersan: any other demon names from literature I've forgotten? 15:22 also aosdict lol, you've got "aosdict", "phol ende wohan", and "copper"whatever? 15:22 Tariru: hmm, that's really weird... K2 supplied the backtrace and it seems to have faulted in the long worm code 15:22 I'm thinking 15:22 maybe the game somehow thought a monster was a long worm when it really wasn't? 15:22 maybe ctrl-f in dante's inferno? 15:23 in fact, I wonder what happens if a long worm (or a worm segment :P) triggers a polymorph trap 15:23 oh hm do you want japanese ones aosdict 15:23 <@Winsalot> Lul, only 200MB left in hard drive 15:23 since I'm 100% certain I could find some good ones from assorted anime 15:23 <@Winsalot> Time to empty the trash I guess 15:23 not really I think - aiming for English recognition as demons 15:24 kk 15:24 you could always include Aku :p 15:24 I had to do tech support for my mom recently because webpages were displaying wierdly. The issue ended up being that there was just enough disk space to not cause an OS emergency but not enough disk space to cache stylesheets from websites. 15:25 <[Demo]> sounds like a shitty web browser for not noticing and complaining 15:25 dean winchester? 15:25 <@Winsalot> How tf does deleting 47GB of data free up 170GB of space? 15:25 <@Winsalot> Because that's what just happened I think 15:25 <@mtf> you've entered the data dimension 15:25 <@kritixilithos> Winsalot: that always happens for me 15:25 <@mtf> where all data is actually 4x 15:26 <@mtf> also, it's probably just gremlins living in your linux kernel 15:26 <@kritixilithos> it even happens when I do nothing 15:26 ooh, what about Jadis aosdict? the white witch 15:28 <@Winsalot> Do you guys think vim is worth it? 15:28 <[Demo]> worth it? 15:28 it's free 15:28 <@kritixilithos> yes 15:28 and it's fun to use 15:28 <[Demo]> like worth the extra resources it exhausts as opposed to using vi? 15:28 <@kritixilithos> boosted my productivity x1000 15:28 [Demo]: It was IE, naturally. 15:28 also never listen to [Demo] like just don't 15:29 <@kritixilithos> vi offers less customisablity 15:29 <@Winsalot> Like worth the effort it will require to actually get comfortable with it? 15:29 <@kritixilithos> what editor do you use now? 15:29 mtf is that why you never get your computer wet? the gremlins in your kernel will multiply? 15:29 <@Winsalot> Cos right now Im only comfortable with typing :quit 15:29 one complaint with vim is that my colorscheme doesn't go great with nethack 15:29 <@Winsalot> Mostly just RStudio or CodeBlocks depending on what Im doing 15:29 <@kritixilithos> you can do :q 15:30 <[Demo]> vim is great use it 15:30 <@kritixilithos> I used to depend fully on IDEs, then while I was learning vim, I switched to command-line, I rarely use any other editor/IDE now 15:31 <[Demo]> all i ever use is vim really and theres no issues 15:31 <@kritixilithos> rikersan: how? 15:31 <@kritixilithos> how does it interfere? 15:31 i don't like the colors for nethack but I do for vim 15:31 <[Demo]> actually vim built in syntax highlighting fucking sucks 15:32 <@kritixilithos> my vim colorscheme is separate from nethack 15:33 <@kritixilithos> do you use a custom colorscheme rikersan? 15:34 I use IDEs when I'm working on really large projects. SWEA is super helpful when there are hundreds of thousands of lines of code. 15:34 But otherwise I like Vim 15:35 i fell like a pet 15:35 as a vampire, I attacked an acid blob 15:35 I automatically whacked and bit the blob 15:35 and then promptly died to passive attacks 15:36 I'm always pissed when my dog does it but I jsut did it :/ 15:36 <[Demo]> so uh 15:36 <[Demo]> dnh and jnh is gonn be interesting 15:36 jnh? 15:36 <@kritixilithos> swea=? 15:36 <[Demo]> cause chris is still awol and june is right around the corner 15:37 dnhslex should be part of junethack :P 15:37 swea=solution wide error analysis 15:37 rikersan: check the list, Jadis is already there :P 15:37 What do Gauntlets of Power do, I can't find an entry for them on the wiki. (xnh) 15:38 <@kritixilithos> sets str=25 15:38 nice 15:38 <[Demo]> is made of metal 15:38 <@kritixilithos> wait that's what they do in vanilla 15:39 I tried searching on the wiki and nothing happened ok 15:39 I literally typed in Gauntlets of Power and it said nothing found 15:39 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 15:39 Pavel: You can also use lookup in xnh 15:39 command 15:39 command / 15:40 Ah, got it 15:40 > I don't have any information on those things. 15:40 :/ 15:40 Winsalot: psion unfortunately always counts as +0 for martial arts 15:41 Pavel: that should print information... 15:41 I did `/ik` (k are my gauntlets of power) and that's all it said. 15:41 type /, hit n, "Specify what?" type "Gauntlets of Power" should work 15:42 hm, but it's not working for it out of the inventory, strange 15:42 ... but it works for my carrots in inventory 15:42 <[Demo]> how identified is it? 15:42 fully id 15:43 Ok, that worked 15:43 I didn't scroll of id it because I already knew it was an uncursed gauntlets of power. 15:44