00:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:80393 00:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:80423 00:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:68370 00:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:68375 00:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:68397 00:05 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 00:06 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:07 aosdict: it was onthe same square as water. 00:07 bouquet: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-01 08:40 EDT: You're missing 1 explored tile here https://i.imgur.com/fKDk2xU.png 00:07 bouquet: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-01 08:41 EDT: _x can find it for you 00:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class a, on T:68417 00:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:80441 00:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:68425 00:09 Congrats 00:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Law), 1271039 points, T:68427, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/dumplog/1524868131.xnh.txt 00:10 oops 00:10 I dropped my BoH that was loaded with precious gems. Oh well 00:10 can I get a do-over? 00:10 ;) 00:11 heh 00:11 congrats! 00:11 thanks! Lots of "statue of a valkyrie named K2" in there 00:11 How dishonorable 00:11 xnh needs more players so I can smash more named statues 00:12 congratz bouquet! 00:12 what are people's thoughts on getting rid of the wand of wishing in the castle, and increasing/varying the loot more? 00:13 I think it makes the late game more interesting since you can't just "fill out your ascension kit," so there might be pieces missing 00:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:80476 00:15 Elronnd: My initial reaction to that idea is "NO F'ing WAY!" 00:16 likewise 00:16 if you feel its too much Elronnd, do what unnethack does 00:16 the wand is already charged 00:16 the WoW balances out what the RNG refuses to give you 00:16 as in 1:0 thru 1:3 00:17 I might be okay with it showing up later in the game, though 00:17 like, you might find a wow on Lv1 stairs 00:17 I've ascended without using any wishes before when the RNG provided a bountiful lewt 00:17 but you prob won't 00:17 bouquet same 00:17 yeah 00:17 but that's the point. You *should* be missing some pieces of the ascension kit, and have to work around that 00:17 rare, but yeah 00:17 My early ascensions I tried to pretend I didn't have a Wow at all 00:18 but there is always something... maybe as K2 suggests, make it already charged 00:18 or make the game harder so that you really need to use the WoW to balance things out a bit 00:18 scrolls of wishing are another option that has been explored before 00:18 Could do that 00:19 check out my mega-loot 00:19 I thought about scrolls of wishing, but that's not really different from wand of wishing, and just introduces more complexity. Magic lamp already takes care of random early-game wish from a shop or on the ground 00:19 what's mega-loot? 00:19 I did a boh in boh 00:19 for the ascension I've just done 00:20 Grasshopper: are you just beating up pestilence over and over? 00:20 Grasshopper: damn 00:20 yeah, I wanted to show him who's the boss 00:20 trying to pull a deathonastick? 00:21 speaking of sticks, if we're going to start messing with things I want my Bat From Hell in vanilla. 00:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4272208 points, T:80479, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/xnethack/dumplog/1524131440.xnh.txt 00:21 This is a slashem fork, so the bat from hell is already there 00:21 congrats Grasshopper! 00:22 and I "scared enemies with impunity 10 times" 00:22 thanks Elronnd! 00:22 at least I didn't scare them unfairly 00:22 Elronnd oh, is this all for SLEX? 00:23 no it's for my slashem fork 00:23 https://github.com/Elronnd/slashem-next 00:23 I got to the top of the xnh hiscore table :D 00:23 congrats Grasshopper! 00:23 OMG I LUV SLASHEM! 00:24 nicely done Grasshopper! I dropped my phat lewt boh on the final altar before I offered the amulet. I was overtaxed due to some cursing all of a sudden. 00:24 thanks K2 bouquet 00:25 bouquet, :C 00:25 Elronnd are you adapting it to the newer ANSI C code base or...? 00:25 You think that as you are ascending to become a demigod, that maybe they'd send down a porter or something 00:25 bouquet: yeah. Only real change is getting rid of BLAH_P and changing the prototypes 00:25 Grasshopper spare a few points for a demigod who lost his boh and is down on his luck 00:26 * Grasshopper tosses bouquet a dilithium crystal and two bits for an ale 00:26 oh, I have a spare boh in heaven now so you can have my second one ;> 00:27 and one of these dumb swords, Demonbane and Sunsword that I picked up along the way 00:27 Elronnd would you say it'll be based on 3.6.* or is that too much work? 00:27 My worms ate the previous owners 00:28 I got a bunch of *banes before I finally got frostbrand 00:28 !tell AntiGulp looking at include/patchlevel.h, you're using nethack 3.6.1 as your version. would recommend changing that (what version is SpliceHack currently?) and also edit the banner info 00:28 Will do, K2! 00:28 bouquet: nah, it's a slashem fork. Might backport some 3.6 features though. Got my eye on the container changes, status_hilites, and goldobj 00:29 Elronnd all good. I shall test the hell out of it! Will you host it at em.slashem.me or hardfought.org? 00:30 I'll put it on esm. For hdf, you'll have to ask K2 or Tangles 00:30 don't expect many changes soon, though, I've been a bit busy recently, and I'm not practiced at changing nethack 00:31 -!- tungtn_ is now known as tungtn 00:31 would it help if I leaned over your shoulder and kept asking when it'll be done? 00:32 yes 00:33 I also kind of want to get good at nethack 00:33 and get a slashem ascension 00:35 been thinking of switching to slashem again but I really want to ascend a monk with weaponless conduct in vanilla. My sword ascension didn't count, IMO. 00:38 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 00:39 wow, Grasshopper. 678HP on that ascension. Someone was giving me crap for alchemizing myself to 300+. 00:44 anyone want to take a look at the TODO list and tell me if anything stands out as glaringly wrong? https://github.com/Elronnd/slashem-next/blob/master/TODO.md 00:45 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] Elronnd (Sam Hum Mal Law), 126 points, T:88, killed by a boulder 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh361] Elronnd (Sam Hum Mal Law), 240 points, T:322, killed by a gecko 00:51 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 00:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- stenno is now known as Guest65478 00:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh361] Elronnd (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1099 points, T:1210, killed by a hobgoblin 00:56 Elronnd: dual wield flails should use martial arts skills for monks. (ala Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon) 00:56 -!- Guest65478 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh361] Elronnd (Sam Hum Mal Law), 426 points, T:674, killed by a gnome lord 01:00 I have never seen enter the dragon 01:05 See the Goodies' parody instead: "Enter with Drag-on" 01:07 I rewatched the scene. He only uses a single flail. 01:07 rekt 01:08 * bouquet hangs head in shame 01:09 no need to flail around about it 01:10 +1 Grasshopper. I'm audi 5000 werd to your mutha 01:13 I've found raisse's ghost in the mines, above minetown 01:14 it is right next to the stairs and some of her former playmates mobbed me 01:14 but I tamed Poes 01:14 so that's a win for me 01:14 I now have 3 cats to herd 01:15 Literally a "Pussy Riot" 01:16 I'm going to go back down those stairs and show them some real pussy power 01:25 raisse did the decent thing and got her water into main inventory before she died - which means unholy water for me! 01:25 :D 01:25 thanks raisse 01:26 awwww noooooo 01:26 orctown 01:26 and bones maybe 01:31 orctown should die in a hole. with fire 01:31 not like a candle from a party though that's too nice 01:33 rikersan, very very true 01:35 They have a wand of fire... HP:6(46) 01:36 and one of my pussies is now a BBQ 01:36 time to run... 01:36 I think I may have left orctown bones too 01:37 raisse, I was mistaken about the bones - what I saw were watchman corpses 01:37 if so, there are 2 probably-sacks not on the bones pile, each one light enough to carry (but carrying both will stress you) 01:37 ah right 01:37 I always get suspicious about bones when I see fresh corpses near the stairs 01:37 yes! 01:38 I was on a mines level and found a set of dwarf gear without a dwarf, so I knew it was bones 01:38 Good news: Poes is still alive 01:38 yay! 01:38 but Spangle (My starting cat) got toasted 01:38 nice catname 01:38 thanks, IRL he was the most wonderful feline person ever 01:39 OH NO!!!! 01:40 ? 01:40 I broke the cork in my wine bottle 01:41 but never mind, I got it out 01:42 now you'll have to drink it all 01:42 yes, a terrible fate for me. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and finish it off 01:43 I've just remembered... I started this game with a blessed scroll of genocide 01:43 I'm starting to think that maybe I really hate orcs 01:44 you won't have any convenient sacrifice fodder for the orctown altar though 01:44 true, but there are also a lot of bees down there 01:44 and, as mentioned, an orc with a wand of fire 01:45 yes, I think you really hate orcs enough to use the scroll on them 01:45 I suppose you're not an orc yourself 01:45 yes, and then I can deal with the bees knees 01:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:50 raisse, I'm a human (in game an IRL too) 01:50 I'm a human IRL but currently a gnome in NH 01:51 (though I have an "Orc in Pink" badge that I wear at conventions) 01:51 I rarely wear pink :-) 01:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- stenno is now known as Guest56628 01:54 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:55 aosdict: You and your downvote brigade. :P 01:57 -!- Guest56628 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:58 ooh, a silver dagger 02:04 dear RNG, please give me a wand of cancellation because this silver dagger is cursed -4 02:05 or a coaligned altar so I can sac for Magicbane 02:11 yay I have a magic lamp though I don't know which one it is 02:11 *lights both lamps* 02:11 with my luck, it's the cursed one 02:13 I'm paused for a moment, still pondering genociding orcs 02:14 well I guess max damage from a bounce could kill me 02:14 and fry my scroll as well 02:15 just do it! 02:15 you can always write another scroll when you need one 02:15 yeah, I will just have to do it 02:15 yes, the magic lamp is the cursed one 02:15 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16 always 02:18 but it's on now, and I want to use it for light anyway 02:30 coaligned grotto minetown! 02:30 had 1 zorkmid left after shopping and a lep stole it :-) 02:31 but the 100zm bag I bought in the hardware store is oilskin 02:33 argh, uruk-hai with poisoned arrows 02:37 !tell K2 slex update at master branch, now with extrainfo *fleece bundle* ♥ The extrainfo entries can be up to 6 characters long, I hope that isn't too long but if it is I can reduce it to 5 characters. 02:37 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:40 -!- Pavel has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- Pavel has quit [Client Quit] 02:42 -!- LarienTelrunya_ has joined #hardfought 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class o), on T:6742 02:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:44 -!- LarienTelrunya_ is now known as LarienTelrunya 02:46 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:6830 02:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:53 -!- stenno is now known as Guest48907 02:53 * LarienTelrunya zaps aosdict with a wand of lightning! 02:53 why, LarienTelrunya? 02:54 for the downvote brigade :D 02:55 LarienTelrunya logon to hdf-us and watch games 02:55 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-03 02:37 EDT: slex update at master branch, now with extrainfo *fleece bundle* ♥ The extrainfo entries can be up to 6 characters long, I hope that isn't too long but if it is I can reduce it to 5 characters. 02:55 hi K2! extra says D2, so if you're actually on dungeon level 2 it works as intended :) 02:55 yup 02:55 yaaaaaaaay :) thanks! 02:55 but 6 characters is way too much 02:56 all of the others only use 2 02:56 hmm, I thought they added an A if you have the amulet, so you can get AD47 (or whatever the depth of the sanctum is) 02:56 right... yeah 02:57 forgot bout that bit 02:57 but 02:57 look at the formatting 02:57 okay, I can shorten it to 5 characters (2 for the dungeon identifier and 3 for the dungeon level, since slex levels can be 3-digit) 02:57 hmm yeah it somehow looks weird 02:58 -!- Guest48907 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:58 what to do... if I try to align it the way nh361 has it, it'll probably be cut off if the player is on dungeon level 100 02:58 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 02:59 thanks! any idea how I can make the extrainfo formatting better without breaking things horribly? 03:00 not sure 03:00 which example did you use? 03:00 grunthack, i.e. the one you gave me, but modified a bit due to slex's different dungeon structure 03:04 ok 03:06 the cat has just dropped a scroll of scare monster at my feet, so that confirms that they pick them up 03:06 Oh my god. 03:06 LarienTelrunya why did you get rid of the amulet display in extrainfo? 03:07 I mistyped and broke unidentified wand. 03:07 It was wand of CM. 03:07 argh! 03:07 erp 03:07 Actually no. 03:08 I tried to put things into my bag. 03:08 And it was a bag of tricks. 03:08 K2: in slex it's conceivable for the player to be in a situation where they can't easily determine whether they have the real amulet, so they shouldn't be able to get leaked information; also, the amulet display would make the string even longer! 03:08 I once #tipped a bag of tricks by mistake 03:08 that does the same thing as breaking a wand of CM 03:09 and why did you get rid of the sortval entries? 03:09 Dunno, but I have swarm of monsters around me. 03:10 K2: uhh... because I don't understand how they work, those numbers seem pretty random to me? what are they? 03:10 it seems like Grunthack assigns an arbitrary number for sortval to every subdungeon 03:10 it probably actually follows some sort of logic but I didn't see any 03:11 What do you want to zap? [rAY or ?*] 03:11 i'd ask Tangles LarienTelrunya 03:12 ok 03:12 i feel like you're missing something important 03:12 i mean its working at the moment 03:12 !tell Tangles do you know what the sortval field in Grunthack's extrainfo (end.c) is? how are those values calculated? 03:12 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:13 ok i gotta get to bed, up way too late again 03:13 gnite all 03:13 good night, and thanks for updating! 03:22 I am stupid... bought unicorn corpse for the intrinsic rpois... then realized that I cannot eat it because I am overstuffed. 03:25 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 03:41 Mandevil: got your minetown bones 03:41 Found the marker? 03:42 not yet, now kicking your ghost in the temple 03:42 Oh right. 03:42 Exorcism comes first. 03:42 and it's a crossaligned temple so the ghost didn't flee 03:43 ah, that's the time you hit the priest of Set with Cleaver 03:43 of course he's a priest of Anhur now :-) 03:48 why is it that whenever I want to write the word "drawbridge", I mistype and write "dwarbridge" instead? 03:48 Lack of proper education :) 03:50 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 03:52 also, why do drawbridges exist at all, everyone always uses them for wand of striking target practice anyway :P 03:53 People crush monsters with them. 03:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- stenno is now known as Guest16977 03:54 but that destroys so much valuable loot :( 03:55 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:56 You can let few monsters in, raise the drawbridge, fight them, then repeat. 03:56 While crushing dangerous and loot-free monsters like disenchanters and liches. 03:58 oh, hmm, never tried that 03:58 -!- Guest16977 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:21 most soldiers' gear isn't valuable loot anyway 04:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:27 The dwarf hits Poes. Poes suddenly disappears! 04:29 maybe that dwarf is half quantum mechanic 04:30 that's what I thought :-) 04:30 went to quantum mechanic school 04:31 some dwarf lord jumped around a corner and hit me twice with his dwarven short sword ==> HP:23(51) before I could blink 04:31 average 14hp damage per hit, prett impressive 04:31 pretty 04:31 woo this bag is a holdybag 04:32 ygtbfkm 04:33 dwarf with a cursed scroll of CM... now I'm surrounded by shit 04:33 why are monsters' scrolls of CM so often cursed? 04:33 lecrotta and nymph and winter wolf cubs all around me 04:34 why why why 04:34 so fucked 04:35 wand of digging > 04:42 -!- puck_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 "Micka turns into a cave spider! Aria turns into a water troll!" 04:49 The bad part is that I forgot my pick-axe. 04:49 -!- Menche_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 [hdf-us] [fh] Petrus (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the valkyrie of Stig, the former Skirmisher, on T:4926 04:50 Maybe water troll can kill the temple priest...? 04:51 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:52 Aria hits the priest of Mitra. The priest of Mitra is killed! 04:52 yay! 04:52 This temple be chaotic. 04:53 The priest left no corpse. 04:53 Just to spite me. 04:53 or the troll would have eaten it, I suppose 04:53 True, but he really didn't leave a corpse. 04:54 FIQ: level drain is maaaybe a bit brutal in FIQhack 04:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- stenno is now known as Guest83707 04:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:55 Fire engravings are no longer permanent in 3.6.x, right? 04:55 Xp:9 going into the midgame, thanks to shamans and stuff ^^; at least protection was cheap 04:56 correct 04:56 only semi- like Magicbane or wand of digging 04:56 FIQhack confirmed Grunthack 2 :D 04:57 I don't know how I will do the midgame with 39 max HP 04:57 Tough job. 04:57 I guess the answer is going to turn out to be "not" 04:58 revgeno nurses, if that still works in FIQhack and they no longer spawn with knowledge of drain life (apparently there used to be such a bug :D) 04:58 LarienTelrunya: There's not a great deal of logic to sortval in extrainfo. It's not displayed, but it gets used when somebody sorts the watch menu by the extrainfo column. The idea is it's supposed to sort more "interesting" games to the top (so for example it adds 100 if you have the amulet). 04:58 Tangles: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-03 03:12 EDT: do you know what the sortval field in Grunthack's extrainfo (end.c) is? how are those values calculated? 04:59 Tangles: ahhhhhh I see, I guess I'll then re-add it, now that I know what it's there for :) 04:59 would never have guessed! 04:59 I have found "elf corpse" 05:00 It still gave me sleep res. 05:00 Damn, I am eating corpses to get poison res. 05:01 Then I finally realize, that orcs have poison resistance. 05:01 -!- Guest83707 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:01 And barbarians too, for that matter. 05:02 whew, good thing nobody ever nerfs polymorph control 05:02 now I have 49 max hp (hey. it's an improvement) and -16 AC 05:02 maybe I shouldn't say that too loud 05:04 do FIQhack characters polymorphed into master mind flayers live when meleeing cockatrices (while holding a weapon)? 05:04 FIQ: ^^ 05:05 Larien: I maybe wrong, but IIRC, mmf can attack with tentacles. When you attack, you will attack with weapon in hands and then with tentacles, after tentacles attack you will turn into a stone 05:05 Hm, I wanted to dig shortcut from the temple to the deli... the wall is too hard. 05:06 And this weapon and tentacles attack goes in one turn 05:07 puck_: yes, but some variants make it so that if you have a weapon equipped, you'll automatically refrain from using any attacks that would cause you to touch the petrifying monster 05:08 careful with that around priests! 05:09 Dead priests don't care. 05:09 And I have my water troll now. 05:09 ah right, you're still in the temple you converted 05:09 not in a different temple of Set with its own priest 05:11 turns out that dwarf wailing on me for 14hp each time had a +4 dwarish short sword 05:11 dwarvish 05:11 no big surprise there 05:13 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:14 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack/New_HP_growth does anyone know how this interacts with nurses/alchemy/etc.? 05:15 You smite Raisse's ghost! 05:17 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 05:18 Oh man, big pile of loot and I don't have a bag. 05:19 Cat! Stop harassing the watch captain, she'll kill you with that shiny silver saber. 05:20 "Aria resists the gas spore's explosion!" 05:20 What? 05:20 Is there spore explosions resistance now? 05:20 perhaps monster MR does something for that? 05:21 lol, dwarves dug out half the town and now there's a locked door standing in the middle of a large open space 05:27 OK, I stuffed everything into a box. 05:27 > a friendly enslaved rothe (your elf zombie's pet); 05:27 oh, wow 05:27 But the nearest altar is in the minetown. 05:28 Lol. 05:31 [hdf-us] [fh] Petrus (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 42695 points, T:7201, killed by a tiger, while fainted from lack of food 05:32 Uh, oh, thats escalated quickly 05:43 No speed boots, surprisingly. 05:44 unless they are cursed. 05:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:51 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 05:52 hi 05:52 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 05:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:56 Mandevil: if you got my bones there might be WW boots 05:56 I've had those several times (but no speed boots recently) 05:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- stenno is now known as Guest87389 06:02 -!- Guest87389 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:19 hi 06:19 Hello winny, Welcome to #hardfought 06:19 Beholder: ty 06:24 possible level 5 bones, invisible nymph with 2 pairs of speed boots 06:24 also wearing a cloak of MR 06:40 Elronnd: [backscroll] My plans for wishes are along the lines of: don't actually reduce the number of guaranteed ones, but change WoW so that they always give only one wish and don't randomly generate. Then you can spread them around Gehennom in nice little one-wish parcels. 06:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: rebooting] 06:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:57 <[Demo]> random wow is a very important part of the game 06:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:58 -!- stenno is now known as Guest499 07:02 -!- Guest499 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:10 !tell K2 alright I added the sortval field to extrainfo now; Tangles enlightened me: it's used for sorting, if a watcher wants to sort the games according to the "Extra" field. it's at the slex master branch :) 07:10 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 07:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:13895 07:24 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 12276 points, T:432, killed by a fox 07:44 ok 07:44 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-03 07:10 EDT: alright I added the sortval field to extrainfo now; Tangles enlightened me: it's used for sorting, if a watcher wants to sort the games according to the "Extra" field. it's at the slex master branch :) 07:53 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 07:58 woohoo, thanks K2! 07:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:59 -!- stenno is now known as Guest21116 08:04 -!- Guest21116 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh361] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15639 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:33478 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:34493 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:34785 08:53 YANI: a role or race that gains a bad intrinsic at a certain level, and then a very good intrinsic later. 08:58 SporkHack updated (us and eu) 08:58 \o/ 08:59 ^^ thanks Tangles! this addresses a rather problematic issue with lack of stairs being generated on certain levels 08:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- stenno is now known as Guest69367 09:01 Sporkhack... now with more stairs :) 09:03 weeeee 09:03 is your commit message just "Added some more stairs"? :P 09:03 -!- Guest69367 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:05 no 09:05 i think his commit just says 'stuff' 09:06 hah, thankfully it's a good descriptive commit 09:06 I am beginning to think it's a rite of passage for variants 09:06 mess with the level generator, you have to fix some stair bugs you inevitably broke 09:07 i wish i could go back and merge all these one-off commits i made to grunthack, but i dunno how to do that 09:07 is that a fix to the "start out in stone 09:07 is that a fix to the "start out in stone" bug? 09:07 bhaak, no that one was addressed last year 09:07 this is the one where stairs would sometimes not be generated on levels like minetown, or the oracle, etc 09:07 lol, connection froze while at the "For what do you wish?" prompt 09:08 usually the downstairs but every so often it'd be the upstairs 09:08 o_O 09:08 yup 09:08 oh yay it's back 09:08 because it couldn't find a proper place? 09:08 can you still wish? 09:08 my sporkhack ascension from yesterday, i had missing stairs on three levels 09:08 bhaak basically yes 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh361] hypnotist (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed spellbook of detect treasure named gimme", on T:35593 09:09 is the hdf repo public? 09:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:10 yes one moment 09:10 https://github.com/NHTangles/sporkhack/tree/hardfought 09:10 ah, I forgot. Tangles 09:12 specifically - https://github.com/NHTangles/sporkhack/commit/0f8e555c9249cdc0fd1a451f64ad420e62a8ee01 09:14 is there any warning or panic when that happens? 09:14 bhaak: no, it just silently failed to generate the room (and stairs therein). 09:15 there might have been something inside an #ifdef DEBUG or something. 09:16 how often happened that? 09:16 I just wonder as sporkhack has a precursor of the level compiler that is in unnethack 09:16 K2, is missing stairs a feature or a bug? 09:16 hmm... I probably should have looked at the Un code for a better fix. 09:17 although I generated a few millions dungeons and didn't find any problem with stairs. but I have to check if there is a warning or an error if stairs can't be placed 09:17 NCommander definitely a bug 09:18 the code changed quite a bit, it didn't look obviously wrong. but the code in spork doesn't either 09:21 bhaak: the stairs are defined within a room definition in the .des file, and the issue is that sometimes a room (or several) would fail to generate. If that happened to be the room with the stairs, then - no stairs. 09:24 As for how often this would happen, well the Oracle level for example is supposed to have 5 external rooms... 09:25 this is the first four dungeons I generated the other night when I started looking at this: https://0x0.st/s1NY.txt 09:25 Not one of them has successfully generated all 5 rooms. 09:25 but only one (out of 4) has the missing downstairs. 09:26 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 09:27 so anecdotally, in the order of 1/4 of the time. Multiply that out by the number of places it can happen (minetown, quest filler levels, etc), and a fair number of games are affected. 09:29 0x0.st is a shady looking name 09:29 it's just an ad-free pastebin. 09:30 it's a bit more stable than sprunge, and accepts file-types other than text. 09:32 but yeah, it's shady looking :) 09:33 it's the kind of thing you could hide in a piece of malware as a target address to send all the user's personal information and most people wouldn't notice. 09:42