00:00 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 24305 points, T:1737, killed by a kitten, while fainted from lack of food 00:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 00:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 00:42 aosdict - I think I found a screwed up level between medusa and castle. There's no upstairs. 00:45 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 00:46 https://i.imgur.com/fKDk2xU.png 00:46 unless I missed a spot. 00:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:55 -!- stenno is now known as Guest39977 00:56 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 stairs under water? ;) 00:57 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 00:58 -!- Menche has quit [Client Quit] 00:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:50010 00:59 -!- Guest39977 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:03 can that happen? 01:04 I mean, it is a "testing new things" variant so maybe. 01:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:50409 01:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class V, on T:50410 01:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:50411 01:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 01:56 -!- stenno is now known as Guest42499 02:01 -!- Guest42499 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:22 -!- [Demo]1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:23 -!- Demo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:57 -!- stenno is now known as Guest34098 03:01 -!- Guest34098 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:33 Status of the purple worm (neutral): Level 47 HP 270(367) AC -6, tame, eating, fast. 03:36 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 03:39 -!- Demo_ has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- MisteryMyra has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:58 -!- stenno is now known as Guest68703 04:02 -!- Guest68703 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:03 -!- MisteryMyra is now known as MiseryMyra 04:12 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:18 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:53 Beholder: wassup? 04:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2018-04-30 09:19 EDT: your change to the whereis file works, beholder likes it 04:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2018-04-30 14:37 EDT: slex 2.2.2 is now up on both hdf servers 04:54 !tell K2 awesome! now I'd like to make sure all the roles are winnable; there should be a ton of .lev files in the game directory, can you check whether Sco-strt.lev is there? because that was a file that was missing in 2.1.7, making my gang scholar unwinnable 04:54 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 04:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- stenno is now known as Guest84137 05:03 -!- Guest84137 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:19 <@Winsalot> Oh hey Amy 05:20 morning Winsalot! did you off Medusa? 05:20 <@Winsalot> Why is slex ao brutal? 05:20 heh, what happened? 05:20 is your diver still alive hopefully? 05:20 <@Winsalot> I got scared and went to spa brantch instead 05:20 <@Winsalot> Reached sewer brantch 05:20 <@Winsalot> And got levelported 30 levels back 05:20 back to start trap I guess? 05:20 <@Winsalot> Twice 05:21 did it say "It's back to square one for you"? 05:21 <@Winsalot> I dont remember 05:21 <@Winsalot> But first time it teleported me to dl1 05:21 <@Winsalot> Second time to dl3 05:21 ah then it might have been just level teleporters 05:22 <@Winsalot> And apparently my bag is not waterproof 05:22 <@Winsalot> Half of my scrolls are blanked now 05:22 if it's not an oilskin sack then yeah, it isn't 05:22 and even if it is, a cursed oilskin sack will "leak" and have 33% chance that items are affected anyway 05:22 that's why I prefer using a large box as a portable container, because it's completely waterproof 05:33 <@Winsalot> Also, whats the probability of getting wish fron blessed magic lamp? 05:33 <@Winsalot> Cos last time I only got shitty spellbook 05:34 20% I think 05:34 yeah, magic lamps and water demons were changed and will give wishes much less often; they can give other things which are often worse than a wish 05:34 <@Winsalot> Ouch 05:40 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:41 <@Winsalot> also, what's good in sewers brantch? 05:42 you need to make it to the bottom of the sewer in order to be granted access to the gamma caves, and then get to the bottom of those too to open the way to the mainframe 05:42 and in the mainframe, you can kill the BOFH for a branchporting artifact and potentially some skill increases 05:42 (and a junethack trophy if you do it during June :D) 05:45 <@Winsalot> sounds like too much effort 05:45 but branchporting is awesome, it allows you to say "screw you game" if you get levelported back to 1 :D 05:53 all in all, I think I'm quite happy with the way the space base plays; my character is currently looking for the sewer stair 05:54 ZAPM ♥ 05:55 <[Demo]> 1 month til junethack! 05:55 woohoo! 05:55 [Demo]: do you also want to playtest slex? :) 05:55 <[Demo]> i do 05:55 <[Demo]> but like 05:55 hi 05:55 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 05:55 <[Demo]> i dont have time 05:55 <[Demo]> and it makes me so sad 05:55 argh! 05:55 <[Demo]> theres so much shit i wanna do 05:56 <[Demo]> ootc is going down this year! 05:57 <@Winsalot> what kind of brantch is this? 05:57 Winsalot: Beholder level, one of the three alignment quests for obtaining keys to Vlad's tower 05:57 [Demo]: the slexy robber nymphets will rise again! :) 05:57 <@Winsalot> so I guess I do it now. Is it single-level brantch? 05:58 yes; if you can kill the Beholder, you get a junethack trophy, a key and a tactical nuke :P 05:59 <[Demo]> just dont look at the blast 05:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:59 <[Demo]> also assuming beholder is unchanged from vanilla thats the easiest alignment quest by far 05:59 <[Demo]> just slap something over ur eyes and pound it a few times 06:00 -!- stenno is now known as Guest30133 06:00 yeah, it's generally the easiest of the three alignment quests 06:00 <[Demo]> in vanilla law has an impossible issue frequently 06:00 <[Demo]> where ur just walking around and get impossibles 06:00 <[Demo]> cant remember what/why 06:00 afk, eating 06:01 <@Winsalot> wait 06:01 <@Winsalot> 7hp left 06:01 <@Winsalot> will I be full hp If I poly in slex? 06:04 -!- Guest30133 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04 <@Winsalot> hm, I kinda like being this nymph 06:05 <@Winsalot> I wonder if it's good idea to start wearing amulet of unchanging 06:06 <[Demo]> does slex fix the little flaw fiq observed in hp, draining, and poly? 06:07 <@Winsalot> Not sure, but my hp jumped by 130 when I polymorphed :). Also gained additional 9 AC. 06:07 <@Winsalot> Also, what does (s), (c) mean when looking at alignment? 06:08 <@Winsalot> Like starting and current? 06:08 <[Demo]> started vs current 06:08 <@Winsalot> Oh, so changing my race changed my alignment as well 06:08 <@Winsalot> Not sure how to feel about that 06:08 <[Demo]> not sure how ur qustio feels about that 06:09 <@Winsalot> good point. 06:09 <@Winsalot> I think I will have to massacre my diving club then (because my role is diver, get it? :D) 06:10 <@Winsalot> Amy said that killing quest leader doent make game unwinnable in slex 06:11 [Demo]: yes 06:13 <[Demo]> does fh fix it? 06:13 <[Demo]> sorry dumb question ofc it does 06:14 <[Demo]> i intend to do some abusive jnh runs in variants that dont even though by the time you can really get that set up well in most variants you already probably can win 06:16 back! Winsalot: did you off the beholder? 06:16 if I see this correctly, the stairs in slex are always open? 06:16 <@Winsalot> yep, just now 06:16 also yeah, the quest in slex is open by default and the portal can never disappear 06:17 <@Winsalot> ok, found some artifact key 06:17 yes, that's one of the three keys for Vlad's Tower; you need at least two, although methods to bypass the artifact doors exist 06:18 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:18 <[Demo]> im sure a lot more in slex 06:18 the eye of the beholder will reduce the HP of all visible monsters to one third or so, but also reduce your luck by 5; if you don't have enough luck, you die instantly 06:18 <@Winsalot> what if I eat it? 06:18 then it does 200 or so damage and is lost permanently 06:19 i.e. it's a bad idea to eat it 06:19 usually I just put it in my box for extra points 06:19 (although points for artifacts are given only if you ascend :P) 06:19 <@Winsalot> Btw, is it bad idea to try and stay permapolyformed? 06:19 as long as you can prevent running out of HP, you can stay polymorphed indefinitely 06:20 and your polyform probably has hands and can do all the other important things 06:20 <@Winsalot> cos this nymph form has some sweet bonus AC as well as bonus 130 HP 😃 06:20 <[Demo]> should secreting lava on top of water create a steam cloud? 06:20 <@Winsalot> just cant twoweapon for some reason 06:20 the unexpected nymph's melee attack will also deal 4x damage to monsters that are paralyzed or asleep 06:21 yeah, being able to twoweapon depends on your current form having two weapon attacks, which the unexpected nymph probably doesn't 06:22 [Demo]: yes, fh fixes it 06:22 by the way Winsalot: if you got that polymorph from the polyform technique, unchanging doesn't stop it from timing out 06:23 <@Winsalot> How does that make sense? 06:24 it's because polyform can theoretically give you insanely powerful polymorph forms, and it would be unbalanced if you could keep those indefinitely :P 06:24 but just for the sake of it I'll wizmode this now to ensure the polymorph will indeed time out 06:24 (if it doesn't, it is a bug) 06:25 yep, polymorph times out 06:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:34 <@Winsalot> ffs something stole my weapons 06:34 kill it to get them back! (nymph I guess?) 06:34 <@Winsalot> it was some sort of lichen i thinl 06:35 <@Winsalot> think* 06:35 oh you got lichtown 06:35 i.e. the town that spawns a ton of random L, I think jonadab suggested that 06:37 <@Winsalot> invisible stalker girl is robbing me 06:37 <@Winsalot> I think that's enough slex for today 😃 06:37 aww 06:39 <@Winsalot> hunting some invisible bitch in a town crawling with L's is not something I wnat to do on such a nice day 06:40 <[Demo]> so I terminated 44 cat6 ends yesterday and now my thumbs don't like how using my phone feels 06:51 <@Winsalot> Amy, please add role/race descriptions in the start screen. Something like in DCSS should do great. 06:51 <@Winsalot> Cos right now it's very inconvenient 06:53 can't :( 06:54 <@Winsalot> I'm trying arm-less race on hdf now 06:54 <@Winsalot> Surprisingly I still can wear gloves 06:54 <@Winsalot> Explain? 06:55 <@Winsalot> Don't even bother. Your current form can't realistically wear armor! You are putting on a pair of leather gloves. You finish your dressing maneuver. 06:56 this is slex, you have a chance of putting the item on anyway 06:57 <@Winsalot> Aand I somehow ended up as hybrid race again 06:57 <@Winsalot> x-race 06:57 that shall also be fixed one day 06:57 <@Winsalot> is that why I move like I am stunned? 06:57 no, you move like you are stunned because you actually are stunned, because you probably got at least one failure when trying to put on the gloves :P 06:59 <@Winsalot> Also, supreme master > grand master? 06:59 yes 07:00 <@Winsalot> good 07:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- stenno is now known as Guest61519 07:01 <@Winsalot> omfg lol 07:01 <@Winsalot> wanted to copy some text 07:02 <@Winsalot> but accidentaly pasted my slex configuratiuon into game itself lol 07:02 <@Winsalot> I think I caused segfault 07:02 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 07:03 <@Winsalot> hm. If the game was actually deterministic, I could in theory just paste some text into it and I would instantly ascend 07:03 ttyrec looks like you saved 07:04 <@Winsalot> its on hdf-eu btw 07:04 <@Winsalot> oh, it works! 07:04 -!- Guest61519 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:05 <@Winsalot> though I had to disconnect from hardfought before that 07:05 <@Winsalot> UI also looks kinda different now 07:06 <[Demo]> heh 07:06 <@Winsalot> Im kinda amazed by this 07:08 welcome to slex 07:08 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-05-01 04:54 EDT: awesome! now I'd like to make sure all the roles are winnable; there should be a ton of .lev files in the game directory, can you check whether Sco-strt.lev is there? because that was a file that was missing in 2.1.7, making my gang scholar unwinnable 07:08 if you want to turn the number pad message off, add OPTIONS=nonumpadmessage to the config file 07:09 <@Winsalot> Try to open it with another part of your body instead? [yn] (n) which bodypart are we talking about ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ? 07:15 <@Winsalot> Hm, is it only me, or does slashem.me and hardfought have slightly different colors? 07:15 <@Winsalot> Im using same configuration file for both 07:24 @Winsalot NH4 is deterministic 07:24 with the same seed 07:25 <@Winsalot> But FIQhack isnt? 07:26 when I say NH4 07:26 I generally mean all of it 07:26 NetHack4, Fourk and FIQHack 07:26 <@Winsalot> hm. I remember this one time when I tried to fix my early YASD in fh by using seed. It generated the same character, but the dungeons were different 07:27 <@FIQ> that shouldn't happen 07:27 unless I broke something 07:27 <@Winsalot> I remember you telling me that it's not how seed works 07:27 <@Winsalot> or something 07:27 yes 07:27 it isn't :P 07:28 just checked 07:28 seems to work OK for me 07:28 however, what might have happened 07:28 * LarienTelrunya is afk for a while 07:28 is that I pushed an update 07:28 which threw off the RNG 07:32 -!- lynn has joined #hardfought 07:34 not sure where to report FIQhack bugs but FIQ is here so I'll do it here: my XL8 elven wizard got a sokoban zoo full of newts and grid bugs and stuff, pretty weird! https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lynn/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-05-01%2010:36:40,%20Koishi-Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha,%20died.txt 07:35 lynn: All 3.4.3-derivatives do that 07:35 Before 3.6.0, Sokoban goes upwards 07:35 And NH4 makes it worse because your XL doesn't matter for initial monster generation in NH4+derivatives 07:36 So the SOkoban zoo becomes a bit silly in it 07:36 ah, that must be it 07:39 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 07:39 (also, very minor thingy: "Anhur was extremely pleased with you.." that double .) 07:40 heh 07:40 thanks 07:42 I like the changes to spellcasting a lot, it feels nice to actually be able to use force bolt ^^ 07:43 heh 07:43 !tell K2 pushed fix: double . in piety info 07:43 Will do, FIQ! 07:43 bouquet: Hmm, not sure what happened here. Make sure to bring a cursed potion of gain level for the ascension run. 07:43 K2: If bouquet has a save, may I have it? 07:43 aosdict: link? 07:44 or what happened? 07:44 https://i.imgur.com/fKDk2xU.png 07:44 aosdict: Oh, that's a swamp 07:44 yes 07:44 Since this is above Medusa, it uses normal special room generation 07:45 however none of the swamp tiles appear to be on maze0xy() spots 07:45 And swamps are probably overwriting the stairs 07:46 aosdict: maze0xy merely confines itself in ROOM spots, not on the spots mazes use for its generation 07:46 wait hmm 07:46 that's not how it works 07:47 idk then 07:48 Uh 07:48 When trying to resume my 3.6.1-dev-Game on HardFought.Org: /dgldir/userdata/A/APic/nhdev/ttyrec/2018-05-01.11:47:56.ttyrec: No such file or directory 07:48 Yesterday it worked 07:49 the process is: makemaz calls create_maz which calls maze_add_rooms (which doesn't specialify them), then creates the maze, then creates the stairs, then calls maze_touchup_rooms which calls special room creation. 07:49 <@Winsalot> !tell LarienTelrunya How come setting gender, alignment and role/race in config doesn't do anything? Curses problems? 07:49 Will do, @Winsalot! 07:49 However, I can't find the place on that map where a POOL would have overwritten the stairs. 07:50 FIQ: ok so maze0xy() confines itself to valid maze spots, but mazexy() doesn't. 07:50 Stairs are placed with valid maze spots. 07:50 that was my assumption but it looks like mazexy does 07:51 confine itself 07:51 @Winsalot press y when it asks if it should generate a random role/race/gender/alignment 07:51 no? the spots it picks are 1 + rn2(x_maze_max), 1 + rn2(y_maze_max) 07:51 it will do this and confine tiself within your choices 07:51 those don't have to be confined to the maze grid 07:51 cc->x = 3 + 2 * mklev_rn2((x_maze_max >> 1) - 1, lev); 07:52 in my mazexy 07:52 are you looking at xnh 07:52 <@Winsalot> Nope, generates something entirely different from what I specified. Maybe I should place those options in specific place in config? 07:52 ah, mklev_rn2, you are not 07:52 aosdict: 63487e8db 07:52 This commit changed it 07:53 in 3.6.x 07:53 In any case, mazexy in xnh permits the stairs to be placed not on the grid. 07:53 aosdict: With that said, I think swamp levels not generating within valid maze confinements was just dumb luck 07:53 So even if you change this, it can be an issue 07:54 So for some reason, mkswamp isn't correctly checking has_ustairs(). 07:54 Well it didn't need to earlier 07:54 FIQ: It already checks this. 07:54 Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you this 07:54 Maze rooms are much more prone to generating special levels in rooms with stairs 07:54 It can happen in normal room-and-corridor too, but it's really rare 07:55 do you mean maze levels and special rooms? 07:55 yes 07:55 special rooms don't seem to mind generating in stair rooms in maze levels nearly as much as they do in room-and-corridor levels 07:56 FIQ: Actually they don't care at all. The reason is that there are global variables for upstairs_room and dnstairs_room that the maze code doesn't set. 07:56 This is probably an error. 07:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:57 hmm 07:57 should be easy to fix 07:57 yes 07:57 can't get to it just now though 07:58 also wondering if the proper fix is to purge upstairs_room and dnstairs_room and just loop over the appropriate room in those functions which check for it 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 46162 points, T:17843, killed by an owlbear 07:59 they seem like 90s era optimizations 08:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:01 APic still here? 08:01 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-01 07:43 EDT: pushed fix: double . in piety info 08:01 Yes 08:01 seems like mklev.c can replace its check for it with a check that's O(room area) 08:01 -!- stenno is now known as Guest64420 08:01 and the sp_lev.c code has a function dedicated to fixing that variable specifically but otherwise doesn't use it 08:02 APic - looking into it 08:02 ktnx 08:03 aosdict: is there a reason to get rid of it when it works atm? just use that function 08:03 I guess removing globals is nice 08:06 -!- Guest64420 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:07 APic - whether a ttyrec is there or not shouldnt matter 08:07 can you close yout terminal, open back up and try again please? 08:08 oooh i see why 08:08 one sec 08:09 ok NOW try 08:10 did some significant renaming of dumplogs and where they live because of the transition from dev to 3.6.1 official, one lil setting in dgl wasn't adjusted, was looking in a folder that no longer exists 08:11 that's the cause of the hangup 08:11 APic should be ok now 08:11 FIQ: I'd rather not have to set a global that I could otherwise get rid of. 08:12 NH4 removes a lot of globals. 08:12 They're not globals in NH4 08:12 since they're inside the level struct 08:12 THey are still redundant, though 08:12 but I don't think they do any significant harm 08:12 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 08:13 FIQ: I don't see a reason for them to exist. All of their functions can be accomplished with at most a single iteration over the room. 08:13 K2: ktnx, i will try again now 08:13 aosdict: but how often does the game need to know where they are 08:14 seeing one other thing 08:14 sometimes, redundancy is good 08:14 lemme know if your rc cfg loads 08:14 Access to /dgldir/userdata/A/APic/nhdev/APic.nhdevrc denied (2). 08:14 yup 08:14 called it 08:14 one sec 08:14 Ah 08:14 But it still loads 08:14 But maybe not with all of my Options? 08:14 ok one more time 08:15 K2: don't need bouquet's save, we diagnosed the problem 08:15 oh good 08:15 yeah i kind of caught some of the chatter between you and FIQ 08:15 FIQ: The game never needs to say "which room is the stairs in?", it only ever needs to say "does this room contain the stairs?" 08:16 sorry for the hassle APic 08:16 hmm 08:16 NH4 doesn't even save/restore these fields 08:16 Still: Access to /dgldir/userdata/A/APic/nhdev/APic.nhdevrc denied (2). 08:16 you'll need to close dgl session and reload it 08:17 So it's only used in room creation 08:17 er, level gen 08:18 yep 08:19 aosdict: but if level gen makes 3 rooms 08:19 and they all have stairs 08:19 the special level handler will have to iterate uselessy a lot 08:19 *special room 08:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22 K2: I closed the whole SSH-Session, but i still get the same message 08:23 hrm 08:23 aosdict: that reminds me, the room_threshould is kind of pointless in maze levels 08:23 looking 08:23 stairs can generate in a single room there 08:25 K2: The issue with apic is that the nhdev dir does not exist. 08:25 i know 08:25 it's called nh361 now :) 08:25 Hi btw :) 08:25 but i've changed the paths in dgl 08:25 ☺ 08:25 Heya 08:25 * K2 waves 08:26 ah shit 08:26 this is what getting 2 hrs of sleep gets you 08:26 i see another spot i missed 08:27 ok APic, last times the charm 08:27 😉 08:28 Tangles: missed the setenv NETHACKOPTIONS line 08:28 Works! 08:28 in dgl 08:28 Thanks! 08:28 🙌 08:28 \o/ 08:28 APic again sorry for the hassle 08:28 Never mind 08:28 but thanks for being the guinea pig ;) 08:28 K2: yeah the '%s' that will expand to nhdev, which you don't want. 08:28 yw 08:28 yup. thought i had caught them all 08:29 I made initial edits to dgl before i went to bed and thought i was good. of course this was at 4am 08:30 !tell K2 minor tweaks and fixes 08:30 Will do, FIQ! 08:30 Yeah I saw your message about going to bed 5 hours ago, and wondered why you're back so soon. 08:30 work ;) 08:30 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-05-01 08:30 EDT: minor tweaks and fixes 08:30 FIQ you're next up 08:31 ok made same changes on eu side for dev 08:31 we're good 08:31 now Mandevil just needs to find time to update the NHS 08:32 Tangles: yeah between the dogs, my kid complaining about a sore tummy and just overall not getting to bed when i should have, i am running on about 2 hrs sleep at the moment. ugh 08:32 surprised i didnt sleep through my alarm 08:32 That's never a good feeling, especially when you have to work. 08:32 go and sleep 08:32 hahaha 08:33 i'll prob crash early tonight 08:33 i'll put mini-me down for bed and i'll wind up falling asleep mid-sentence during story time 08:35 I may be mis-reading it, but it looks like there's an unexplored tile on that map with no upstair 08:36 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 08:37 <@Winsalot> !tell LarienTelrunya omg does psion start with all items identified? 08:37 Will do, @Winsalot! 08:37 oh6: I don't see any unexplored tiles 08:37 K2: I was reviewing a document at work this afternoon... It was a DR plan, and I kept finding myself picking out these scenarios where the datacentre was attacked by dragons, or sinking into lava. I did not get much sleep last night either. 08:38 Tangles: At least you're prepared against dragons now 08:38 lol 08:38 <[Demo]> thank god 08:38 yeah. dragon defense. cant be a bad thing 08:38 <[Demo]> thought my server died 08:38 <[Demo]> my poor raid 0 baby 08:38 <[Demo]> fuck me 08:39 <[Demo]> router must just have been reset 08:40 there was one spot, about 12 from the left and 6 from the bottom 08:40 oh I see it 08:40 !tell bouquet You're missing 1 explored tile here https://i.imgur.com/fKDk2xU.png 08:40 Will do, FIQ! 08:41 !tell bouquet _x can find it for you 08:41 Will do, FIQ! 08:41 <[Demo]> I wish my bot had remote code execution 08:42 FIQ-bot does 08:42 <[Demo]> I'd start backing shit up 08:42 hah good catch oh6 08:42 <[Demo]> I'm too fucking lazy i really need to just order that hard drive and get moving on the transition 08:43 FIQ, converting altars became brutally difficult huh 08:45 lynn: The chance is value/2000 08:45 I failed even with a white unicorn corpse, I guess it's a 60% chance even then (1200/2000) 08:45 value is 100*monster difficulty for corpses, gold/4 for gold, food/(prob/15) for food 08:46 huge chunks of meat, C-rations and K-rations count as probability 100 08:46 oh6: In the process, we turned up the much more likely scenario that it was overwritten by a POOL though. 08:46 I think it's good that it's harder but it feels like a roulette with a -1 luck penalty every time I get unlucky 08:46 lynn: numbers might need tweaking, but it used to be that you could repeatedly sacrifice 4 gold pieces 08:46 until you eventually got it 08:46 Still needs to be fixed, but would be nice for bouquet if that *is* the stairs 08:46 so yeah 08:48 I like the new piety system for getting gifts a lot, something similar that might be nice 08:49 <@Winsalot> Lol, opulent throne in dungeon lvl 1. smh 08:49 what does nutrition/(prob/15+1) come out to for a food ration? 08:50 it was actually specifically added for food rations :P 08:50 anyway it would be 380/6 08:50 no wait 08:50 380/15 I mean 08:51 25+1, so 26 08:51 meaning you'd get roughly 800/30 piety 08:52 800/26 I mean, which is 30 08:54 FIQ: Haha, actually you don't need to iterate over the room to check for upstairs, because of MORE GLOBALS 08:55 You mean upstairs.sx/sy? 08:55 yes 08:55 also sstairs 08:55 Wait, doesn't the level structure list its own stairs? 08:55 aosdict: this is actually how the game stores stair location 08:56 I think 08:56 they aren't a dungeon feature in that sense afaik 08:56 aosdict: It uses this to figure out where to place you when you use stairs 08:56 FIQ: They are a dungeon feature in that STAIRS is a valid struct rm value. 08:57 aosdict: but apparently STAIRS is used for all stairs? 08:57 and LADDER 08:57 yes, it doesn't differentiate between directions 08:57 aosdict: I would probably make dungeon features and traps use a lev->features linked list 08:57 if I were to make a level struct today 08:57 for nethack 08:58 Only one linked list for both? 08:58 Not separate? 08:58 jonadab: why seperate? 08:59 Because you're typically looking only for one or the other, not both. 08:59 perhaps 08:59 Granted, if you use functions like t_at, the extra filtering is abstracted away. 08:59 And the perf difference would be tiny. 08:59 So it's not a big deal. 09:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:02 -!- stenno is now known as Guest11046 09:02 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:03 FIQ: So not part of the terrain, probably so that you don't have to check many different terrain types (or ranges of terrain types, ugh), right? 09:05 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:06 -!- Guest11046 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:08 morning AntiGulp 09:08 morning! 09:11 i want to try and find time to get your variant up on hardfought before this weekend if you feel its ready for public testing AntiGulp 09:11