00:01 -!- aeoi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:05 hah daaaamn... congrats greqrg!! 00:06 ^^ 1st to ascend 3.6.1 official release 00:06 https://alt.org/nethack/userdata/g/greqrg/dumplog/1524933159.nh361.txt 00:07 Thanks :) 00:09 The entire game is recorded if anyone is curious 00:09 11 hours lol 00:11 heh awesome 00:11 i spammed your dumplog on reddit 00:13 what, you stole his YAAP thunder? 00:13 I'm not going to post one, please go ahead :) 00:13 I'll jump into the comments section tomorrow 00:14 well i had posted something like someone will be the 1st to ascend in the next few hrs 00:14 then i looked at backscroll on #nethack 00:14 it wasnt a main post but a reply to an existing one 00:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:31 -!- stenno is now known as Guest31562 00:35 -!- Guest31562 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:32 -!- stenno is now known as Guest21522 01:36 -!- Guest21522 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:28 holla 02:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- stenno is now known as Guest67460 02:36 -!- Guest67460 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:47 Beholder: what are the newest bugs? 02:47 !ping 02:47 LarienTelrunya: Pong! 02:48 Amy I'll be adding 2.2.2 later today 02:48 dunno why i am still up 02:48 need to go to bed 02:48 hi K2! nice :) 02:49 hopefully everything will work the way it should! my 2.1.7 run encountered an error where the quest levels don't exist :( 02:49 apparently they weren't compiled for some reason 02:49 huh 02:49 did you add new quest levels? 02:50 well between 2.1.1 and 2.1.7 a few roles got added IIRC, and I guess their quests are the ones that are missing 02:51 hmm 02:51 will need to look at the makefile on my end 02:51 it's not that big a deal, since I want to YASD that 2.1.7 character on hdf-eu anyway, but thought I should mention it 02:51 ok thanks 02:51 what's the makefile that you're using? GNUmakefile or Makefile.src? 02:52 not GNU 02:52 ah, so probably Makefile.src/top/dat 02:52 yup 02:52 are you going to continue to add more content or are you going to start focusing on squashing bugs? 02:53 ah, probably commit 4e08abaa was the one that somehow got lost on hdf 02:53 if you can apply https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/4e08abaabec50106e0e07bb1c2ecc9c9357e086d#diff-0dea889df48850e2d540fc2a96bcc98f it should fix it :) 02:54 well, 2.2.2 marks save freeze at least; I'm not going to implement any more savebreaking stuff before Junethack is over, and I'll also keep the new content to the minimum 02:54 i.e. it's mostly bugtesting/fixing time now 02:54 should change mostly to only imo 02:55 of course I still have tons of thigns I want to implement, but those will have to wait until the tournament is over 02:55 *things 02:56 personnaly, i'd stop adding anything new for the next 6 months if not longer, and focus just on ficing bugs 02:56 your variant has more lines of code than any three variants put together 02:56 6 months??? 02:56 6 months or longer 02:56 wtf 02:56 just my opinion of course 02:57 but everytime you add more content on top of whats already there, you just increase the odds for something catastrophic to happen 02:57 well, I admit that I should try to polish the game so that it's no longer a bug-ridden mess 02:57 um yeah 02:57 please :) 02:57 I had a lamb vindaloo last night 02:57 I no longer have a vindaloo this morning 02:58 And sitting down hurts :( 02:58 Also fix all the bugs amy! 02:58 at least we now have about 2 months of pure bugfixing time 02:59 what happened to Tariru's slex asc cannot happen during junethack 02:59 he ascended again btw 02:59 few hours ago 02:59 slex streak 02:59 really??? already? while I wasn't here? 02:59 !asc Tariru 02:59 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Tariru has ascended 1 times in 1 games (100.00%): slex:1 (100.00%) 02:59 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] Tariru has ascended 1 times in 1 games (100.00%): slex:1 (100.00%) 02:59 wow 02:59 did the planes go without a hitch this time? 02:59 by some odd twist of good fortune, yes 03:00 woooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo that means my astral plane buffer overflow fix works (probably)! :D:D:D 03:01 !tell Tariru Congratulations!!! Thoughts on the fencer class? 03:01 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:01 if i were you, i'd ask some of the coders who hang out here to help you 03:02 but I'm already doing that sometimes ;) 03:04 @Winsalot: turning curses graphics on/off during a running game unfortunately doesn't work, it can only be toggled by editing the configuration file 03:05 LarienTelrunya: install vscode! 03:05 * mcw bundles 03:05 :D 03:06 <@Winsalot> I was trying to play on smartphone btw 03:06 oh 03:07 <@Winsalot> And curses are not optimal for this device 03:07 yeah :D 03:07 by prefixing the OPTIONS=windowtype:curses line with a # you can turn it off 03:08 <@Winsalot> And then IBMgrapgisc turns on by default? 03:08 not sure, but you can switch between IBM and DEC in-game 03:08 if you want to make sure it uses ibm, you can use OPTIONS=IBMgraphics 03:08 and OPTIONS=DECgraphics if you want dec 03:11 <@Winsalot> Which one draws corridors as #? 03:11 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 03:12 uhh, I fear none of them do; there is an option that turns off the # for solid rock though 03:12 OPTIONS=!wallglyph would do that 03:12 (that option added by popular demand :D) 03:19 <@Winsalot> Check out my trident skill :) 03:21 whoops sorry, was doing other things... can you show it again? 03:23 gnite all 03:23 good night K2, and dream of lovely sweetheart bundles! ♥ 03:24 Winsalot: I guess you have silent ocean now? 03:24 <@Winsalot> Im at master skill 03:24 yay! 03:24 <@Winsalot> Found this potion that hekps me train 03:24 and you picked trident, of course? 03:24 <@Winsalot> Also expert at two weaponing :) 03:24 wow 03:25 <@Winsalot> Got a second trident from my own bones ;) 03:25 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 03:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:25 yay for bones levels! 03:26 <@Winsalot> I was wondering, do all guns use firearm skill and is it worth to try using them? 03:28 yes and yes :D Tariru used a heavy machine gun in his ascension 03:28 and IIRC he one-shotted Dispater with a BFG 03:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- stenno is now known as Guest66220 03:34 <@Winsalot> Ok. And at what dl should I expect to find quest and medusa? Yesterday I had reached dl22 but didnt meet any of them 03:35 Medusa is at about 35-39. The quest entrance can be anywhere from 15 to 49 (randomly placed). 03:36 Also placed randomly from 15-49 are three alignment quest portals that lead to one-level quests; they will give keys that open doors on Vlad's Tower. It is possible to bypass the need for those keys, but then you'll have to fight stronger versions of the key bosses much later in the game. 03:37 -!- Guest66220 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:39 <@Winsalot> Has vlad been buffed? :) 03:40 yes: he now starts with scrolls that allow him to levelport, so you better one-shot him :D his attacks are as weak as ever 03:41 <@Winsalot> That's nasty 03:43 wow, from Tariru's game: "You could not have this property extrinsically: reflection" 03:44 Why is my cat so noisy? :-\ 03:58 <@Winsalot> You are a stoned chiller. I wonder what kind of intristic is that? 😃 03:58 that makes you invulnerable while you're turning to stone, which isn't very useful :D 03:59 mostly because turning to stone kills you in 7 turns 03:59 <@Winsalot> well, that's not too bad either 04:00 <@Winsalot> Means that I will be able to eat my lizards in peace 04:00 yeah it is beneficial, but the benefits are limited to some corner case scenarios 04:00 yep, useful if there's a mumak beating on you while you're digging through your pack for that corpse 04:01 <@Winsalot> lol 04:01 <@Winsalot> well, I got it from eating some sort of giant anyway 04:01 petro giant, probably 04:01 wtf, speaking of which, some ordinary floor tile turned out to be a large giant in my game??? 04:02 and I have 16(68) HP and no healing scrolls... I think I'm dead 04:04 <@Winsalot> surprised by your own game I see 😃 04:04 <@Winsalot> Well, I found corridor tile that acts as a pit 04:04 <@Winsalot> really weird 04:04 well I escaped to the level above, but demons are pouring out of some special room 04:04 <@Winsalot> also takes very long to get out of it 04:04 probably a giant chasm? 04:05 slex traps can sometimes be invisible 04:05 <@Winsalot> pressing : while in it says there's nothing there 04:05 also, escaping from a pit/beartrap/web/etc. is much faster if you do it diagonally 04:05 <@Winsalot> Also have ring of see invisible rn 04:05 yeah probably an invisible trap 04:05 those cannot be seen at all, even if you have see invisible 04:05 <@Winsalot> oh 04:05 <@Winsalot> kk 04:05 <@Winsalot> Also haven't seen any nasty traps in a while 04:06 nasty traps aren't all that common ;) 04:06 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 04:07 -!- raisse is now known as Guest43643 04:08 LarienTelrunya: what? 04:08 I got like 4 on my first level :p 04:08 mcw: haha really? which ones? 04:10 remember the interface fuckup one? 04:10 * mcw shudders 04:10 :D 04:18 * LarienTelrunya starts marking staircases by dropping lichen corpses on them because she also currently has an interface screw trap effect active 04:19 Winsalot: the "huge sword" is a bastard sword, which counts as a two-handed sword and does d24/d27 damage 04:20 <@Winsalot> wow 04:20 <@Winsalot> But can I use it though? 04:20 also up the high heels skill for extra AC while wearing heels (insert arbitrary number of ♥ here) 04:20 <@Winsalot> I think 2 tridents are quite enough for now 04:20 <@Winsalot> ok wtf lol 😃 04:20 yeah, you don't have the two-handed sword skill so your to-hit with it would be bad 04:20 better to use the tridents I think 04:21 huh, not raising them to legendary? 04:21 <@Winsalot> oh 04:22 <@Winsalot> didnt notice 😃 04:25 -!- Guest43643 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:30 <@Winsalot> what's this place? 04:30 looks like Grund's stronghold 04:31 but the bottom status line says you're still in the main dungeon, so this is probably just a replica of the real stronghold 04:31 oh wait, it says Str:13 04:31 <@Winsalot> for some reason I need to keep pressing ctrl-R 04:31 so it's the real stronghold 04:31 <@Winsalot> what's good in there? 04:31 hahaha that sounds like you have the stuck announcement trap effect 04:31 <@Winsalot> oh shit 04:32 <@Winsalot> not this 04:32 well, if you can get past the moat and drawbridge, you can kill many orcs for their wands, plus there's Grund the Orc King 04:32 his hoard includes about 10k gold pieces and assorted other items, and he also has a throne 04:33 <@Winsalot> nice 04:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:34 -!- stenno is now known as Guest41512 04:38 -!- Guest41512 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:38 man I need a container, already explored a dozen levels without finding one 04:40 lol I already found three +1 hooded cloaks in the mines 04:44 <@Winsalot> I HAVE TRIGGERED UPPERCASE TRAP 04:45 Go Team Nastytrap! :D 04:45 maybe you jinxed it when you said "hey there's not many nasty traps appearing in my game"? 04:45 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:47 You discover it is a cursed +5 bullwhip (weapon in hand) {8} 04:50 Tariru ascended slex again? 04:50 fster this time too 04:50 yes, streak + 100% ascension rate 04:50 slex confirmed too easy :P 04:51 What's the difference between a shrine and an altar? 04:52 nothing 04:52 shrine probably means it has an attendant temple priest? 04:52 shrine might be temple altar 04:53 xYOU PUT 3626 GOLD PIECES {0} INTO THE WOODEN BOX. xxT) an uncursed burnt partly eaten lump of royal jellyx 04:53 xYOUR LEG FEELS SOMEWHAT BETTER. 04:53 * LarienTelrunya wants a wooden box too :( 04:53 FIQ: what's a sanctum altar then? ._. 04:54 * bug_sniper puts LarienTelrunya into a wooden box 04:54 <@Winsalot> bug_sniper: what's that about? 04:54 <@Winsalot> you gonna stream my game in chat? 😃 04:54 mcw: aren't those special cased 04:55 # - a Hawaiian shirt {2}. What do you want to read? [#l-osVY or ?*] It reads: "I love inhaling the fragrance of Josefine's sweaty feet" 04:55 no, just wanted to watch is now that it's capped 04:56 FIQ: no idea! :( 04:56 FIQ: wait, are sanctum altars the high altars??? 04:56 yes 04:56 Ahh 04:56 Good naming 04:56 So shrine = sanctuary 04:57 (coaligned) 04:59 damn you slex, I don't need half a dozen figurines, I need a single container! 05:01 amy, someone hacked your status bar 05:01 it says BrO vUH PAqB:@ . wHz>s9Y7mzD=~U.GP!^;Ak 05:01 heh, I'm wearing an artifact helmet that makes both the status bar and all menus fleecy-colored 05:01 now 05:01 yep, works as intended :D 05:03 shit, apparently I have the nasty trap effect that confuses me when trying to read a spellbook 05:03 a clever way to not tell me what race/role you are 05:03 You are Bluescreen, a chaotic female fawn Feminist. HP: 73 (max 74) Pw 18 (max 95) AC 5 Current status effects: . 05:04 lol the walls have fleecy monochrome colors on this level! 05:05 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:05 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:05 !who 05:05 FIQ: [hdf-us] No current players 05:05 FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players 05:14 man, this shitty minetown doesn't have a container either 05:25 <@Winsalot> lol. Probably RNG has decided that containers will not be generatd in your game 05:25 oh whoops I died 05:26 whoa I had a scroll of world fall 05:26 <@Winsalot> what;s that? 05:26 kills all monsters on the current level who aren't bosses and whose level is lower than your own 05:27 <@Winsalot> can you tell me about the area I just entered? 05:27 would be wyrm caves but they got replaced by a filler level in your game 05:28 it's a one-level branch 05:28 It's time to g.g.g.g.g.generate a level! 05:28 * mcw is excited 05:29 tool generation rate was only 35% in my game, I guess that explains the lack of containers :P 05:29 I wou;ldn't have been generated then \o/ 05:30 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:30 You had the following problem: Your right mouse button failed. (0). You had the following problem: Everything displays in various shades of grey. (0). You had the following problem: The display intermittently becomes all gray. (0). You had the following problem: The bottom status line only displays garbage strings. (0). You had the following problem: Reading spellbooks confuses you. (0). 05:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:35 -!- stenno is now known as Guest66948 05:35 It's a stenno impersonator! 05:35 Gittim! 05:35 lol Winsalot that's quite a bunch of lamps :D surely some of them are magic? 05:37 <@Winsalot> Possibly 05:37 <@Winsalot> Do I need to invoke test evry single one? 05:37 usually I'd use #name and then see if you find another that doesn't share the name 05:38 if you now find a lamp that isn't called "probably not magic", you know that one of the two is magic 05:38 <@Winsalot> that's smart 05:39 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39 -!- Guest66948 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 05:40 Is there anything better than that first drink of the day? 05:42 Winsalot: hmm I don't think invoking a lamp does anything... #rub is the command that can sometimes release a djinni 05:42 the one that gives a puff of smoke is magic 05:42 <@Winsalot> oh, so I had magic lamp with me all along 05:42 mcw: yes 05:42 <@Winsalot> lol 05:42 srvving past 40 05:43 FIQ: overrated 05:43 *surviving 05:43 <@Winsalot> what should I wish for? 05:43 there's no guarantee that you get a wish 05:43 wsh for happiness 05:43 *wish 05:43 -!- ykkie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:44 but other than that, determining the best wish in slex is difficult for obvious reasons :P you can wish for a base item that conveys an important property, e.g. cloak of magic resistance, or you can look into artilist.h to see if an artifact would be good for you 05:47 <@Winsalot> A("World's Largest Cock", VIBROBLADE, (SPFX_RESTR|SPFX_ESP|SPFX_ATTK|SPFX_DCLAS), 0, S_HUMAN, PHYS(20, 20), NO_DFNS, NO_CARY, 0, A_CHAOTIC, NON_PM, NON_PM, 2500L ) seriourly? 05:47 it's slex, what did you expect? :P 05:47 <@Winsalot> SPFX_RESTR|SPFX_ESP|SPFX_ATTK|SPFX_DCLAS what do these mean? 05:47 <@Winsalot> ESP is telepathy, others are mystery 05:48 it means, from left to right: you can't create the artifact by naming; it grants ESP when wielded; and it gives attack bonuses against a specific class (in this case all @ because of S_HUMAN) 05:49 it's also very weird that there are 3 or so artifacts which don't have SPFX_RESTR; I wonder why they didn't instead make a flag for those few artifacts that *can* be named 05:52 you can still use F to force-fight while stunned, so you don't have to let those bastards beat on you until it wears off 05:54 afk a bit, eating 05:55 <@Winsalot> PHYS(20,0) does it mean it does d20 vs snmall and d0 vs large? 05:56 Why do I keep dc? :( 05:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:57 <@Winsalot> or is it added damage on top of base item? 06:03 <@Winsalot> mancatcher artifacts seems tempting. But DSM artifacts also seem very strong 06:06 <@Winsalot> also this: SPFX_EVIL ? 06:13 back! PHYS(20,0) means +20 to-hit and double damage, because some weirdo developer made it so that if the damage value is 0, the weapon does double damage 06:13 they should have made a "SPFX_DBLDAM" flag instead but didn't 06:13 * mcw shakes his head. 06:13 LarienTelrunya: rebase off tubhack :) 06:13 :D 06:14 Winsalot: SPFX_EVIL means that it's an "evil artifact", which is relevant mostly for certain artifact generation routines but also means the item can't be destroyed if it's curse-welded to you 06:17 <@Winsalot> what about the evil dragons? 06:17 <@Winsalot> do they also have some evilt properties? 06:17 they breathe nastiness, at least the ones old enough to have a breath weapon :D 06:19 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 06:22 SPFX_DBLDAM> well, probably wanted to save a bit 06:23 <@Winsalot> SPFX_DCLAS ? 06:23 Winsalot: means that it has bonuses versus a specific class, e.g. S_HUMAN 06:23 and also means that the damage bonus doesn't apply if the monster is not of that class 06:23 <@Winsalot> so then PHYS(8,0) applies only on humans? 06:24 <@Winsalot> ok 06:24 that artifact mancatcher only does bonus damage against humans, yes 06:24 <@Winsalot> still strong as fuck 😃 06:24 it's a "man"catcher after all, not an animalcatcher :P 06:24 [hdf-us] [gh] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 159 points, T:579, killed by a goblin 06:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32 [hdf-us] [gh] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 61 points, T:375, killed by a dwarf 06:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- stenno is now known as Guest92738 06:40 mcw: sometimes I wonder if grays was supposed to just be a hallures arti 06:40 -!- Guest92738 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:40 and that the one that added it forgot that +0 meant x2 06:40 making it the most overpowered artifact in the game 06:41 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:43 FIQ: No, it's by design. 06:43 -!- stenno_ has quit [Changing host] 06:43 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- stenno_ is now known as stenno 06:49 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:50 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:53 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:57 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 07:00 Holy fuck I hate lev_comp 07:00 IT ENCODES REGISTERS AS -VALUE-1 07:00 alskdjlaksdj 07:00 * mcw rage 07:06 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 07:06 Pinkbeast: hmm you know this? 07:07 how? 07:09 We asked years ago 07:09 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 07:14 ahh 07:14 what is? 07:18 stenno: Grays double damage 07:19 ah 07:29 -!- Guest43643 has joined #hardfought 07:31 Ah, 3.6.1 already ascended now, I see. 07:31 Tariru: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-04-29 03:01 EDT: Congratulations!!! Thoughts on the fencer class? 07:34 LarienTelrunya: Fencer was nice. Straightforward focus on melee combat, and a bit lacking in ranged and magic skills. 07:35 Being restricted in the missile weapons skill really makes ranged attacks on amorphous etc. enemies really annoying, even if you can get dagger to master. 07:36 I'd say they are definitely a fair bit weaker than rogue as a result of poor ranged/spell options, even if they can do slightly more when two-weaponing. 07:51 Tariru: have you ascended gh sp 4k xnh fh yet? 07:51 Don't think so. 07:51 What is sp? 07:51 spork 07:52 Might try some of them in Junethack then. 07:53 you should ascend them all 07:53 go for skotw :D 07:53 spork is pretty difficult too 07:53 spork is an evil variant 08:07 <@Winsalot> has anyone ever ranked variants by difficulty? 08:15 that is rather subjective, isn't it/ 08:17 Tariru: yeah, I saw how you absolutely maxxed your melee damage output with the +12 increase damage, fencing gloves and everytihng :) 08:17 you might want to hold off on starting another slex run until 2.22 goes live though ;) 08:17 anyway, well done! you proved that slex can be streaked! :D 08:23 Thanks! 08:24 What changes does 2.22 have? Just bug fixes, or is there more stuff? 08:24 quite a bit of new content and other misc changes; changelog is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/master/history2.txt 08:36 <@Winsalot> lol at shopping queen technique 08:36 <@Winsalot> who implemented this? 08:36 well, guess :D slex has two developers and only one of them is crazy enough to implement such a thing! 08:37 get those lovely sandals! ♥ 08:39 <@Winsalot> got em 08:39 <@Winsalot> Btw what is corruption? 08:39 <@Winsalot> Cos I have spell of gain corruption 08:39 hahaha, casting that gives you a random nasty trap effect intrinsically 08:40 by the way, those mountains are very hard to climb while you're on foot, but if you're riding you can simply walk over them 08:41 The gnomish wizard casts a spell at you! The gnomish wizard wishes for an object. 08:45 -!- Guest43643 has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:45 -!- Guest43643 has joined #hardfought 08:47 <@Winsalot> wow, apparently burninator is a natural counter to air elementals 08:47 <@Winsalot> Probably to all engulfing monsters as well 08:49 as long as your leeching can outdo the damage the monsters are doing to you, burninators are rather strong 08:54 stenno: was it you who was in love with json? 08:55 in love with is a bit too thorough 08:55 https://gist.github.com/tubs/55a2fb25c5ae1863fa69ad2cf38bb462 08:55 Starting to actually evaluate my parsed .des files 08:55 oh those are the .des files 08:55 nice 08:56 Well, I eat the .des, validate it, then execute the "instructions" 08:56 This is a json dump of the constructed object tree. 08:56 I need to do MONSTER/OBJECT 08:57 And that dump doesn't have everything in yet 08:57 But we're getting there \o/ 09:05 @4k?hezrou 09:05 hezrou (&) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 55 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -2 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 claw physical, 4d4 bite physical, 3d5 passive stinking-cloud | Alignment: -10 | Flags: poisonous, demon, stalker, infravisible 09:06 @4k?nalfeshnee 09:06 nalfeshnee (&) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 65 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -1 | Attacks: 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d4 bite physical, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -11 | Flags: poisonous, demon, stalker, infravisible 09:08 <@Winsalot> LarienTelrunya: what can you tell me about polymorphing skill? I think it might be relevant since I have polyform technique 09:09 increasing it will give you better chances of not breaking your armor when polymorphing, and sometimes allows you to keep incompatible pieces on, plus it increases your polymorph duration 09:09 it probably also improves some other aspects of polymorphing that I don't remember right now, but it's certainly not a bad idea to increase it 09:10 for example, my character is currently a werewolf; the polymorphing skill allowed me to keep my helmet on (it's a yes/no question, so if you want to get rid of something cursed, you still can) 09:11 <@Winsalot> cool 09:11 <@Winsalot> does it ever give polynmorph control? 09:13 haha, no, skills don't give intrinsics 09:13 but it increases the chance that polymorph control works 09:23 <@Winsalot> The following skill is trained at one fifth the usual rate: dagger. Ouch 09:23 yeah getting that up will take a while 09:23 <@Winsalot> However: You can train skills and attributes faster. 09:23 so it'll train 2.5 times more slowly ;) 09:25 <@Winsalot> elemental spells Basic (max Wizard) but according to wand of enlightenment it's limited to basic 😦 09:25 well it would be rather cheesy if the enhance screen told you about those hidden caps :P 09:25 also: with the potion of training you'd still be able to reach wizard despite the cap! it would require at least half a dozen such potions but it can be done :) 09:27 <@Winsalot> that's just cruel 09:27 yay, you just stole a magic marker in my game (you're my pet large dog) :D 09:28 <@Winsalot> ? 09:28 well I always name my in-game pets after people from the chat 09:29 and you stole the magic marker from Ilol's hardware store 09:31 <@Winsalot> "Once again, a little weird but not a sin" 😃 09:31 that reminds me, I should make "Tolasniw" a random shopkeeper name 09:35 -!- Guest43643 is now known as raisse 09:35 is it actually *possible* to pay a different shopkeeper than the one in whose shop you are? 09:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:37 I'm shopping in minetown while wearing an amulet of ESP and the game keeps asking me whom to pay 09:37 isn 09:37 't it obvious that it's the shopkeeper of this shop that I'm in? 09:38 and if I try to point to another shopkeeper, I'm told they're too far to receive my payment 09:38 so if it's a question of code looking for all shopkeepers, I'd say that should be changed to only look for the shopkeeper of the current shop 09:39 man, I really drew a gnomish mines where every single level is unlit 09:42 raisse: Yes, I'm not sure why there's code to support paying any one of multiple shopkeepers. Is it because you might have two angry ones chasing you? 09:42 but then they want blood, not money! (anyway they're probably too far away too) 09:43 it was extra annoying because this was the minetown where the shops are all very close together (monkeytown), and they were all manned, so I saw more than one shopkeeper almost every time 09:43 took the amulet off eventually 09:44 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 23460 points, T:30182, killed by a troll 09:45 <@Winsalot> lol just threw resurector's corpse into lava. He came back from from hell right into another inferno 😃 09:45 :D 09:48 <@Winsalot> Found fort ludios 😃 09:48 yay! are you gonna clear it? 09:49 <@Winsalot> is there only money? 09:49 <@Winsalot> though I definetely need weapon proofing scroll 09:49 there's dragons that may drop scales, soldiers that will have lots of firearms with ammo, and if it were Junethack, killing Croesus would give a trophy 09:50 <@Winsalot> Btw I have an uncursed set of platinum dragon scales 09:50 do those reflect? 09:50 <@Winsalot> those give swimming right? 09:50 wow! what do they do? 09:50 ooh swimming 09:50 they're randomized per game, so you need to look at the description 09:50 yay, swimming! 09:51 <@Winsalot> Ok. Are there some scales that have non-randomized effects? 09:51 sure, mercurial dragon scales e.g. give very fast speed 09:51 <@Winsalot> I also have metal lamellar armor, which gives quite nice AC as well as is erosion-proof 09:51 yeah but that hinders spellcasting 09:52 <@Winsalot> ffs I forgot to turn on autopickup 😦 10:08 aosdict: Corridor mazes is not a good feature 10:08 It makes it impossible to judge your progress in maze exploration 10:09 Because there is no difference between "you encountered a dead end" and "you didn't explore in this direction" 10:09