00:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23089 00:08 I found statues of hothraxxa and K2 on Medusa's island 00:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest26111 00:20 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- Guest26111 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27 aosdict, just wondering have you nerfed genocide scrolls in xnh? Or am I just really unlucky never finding genocide, not getting it out of polypiling either? 00:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23856 00:39 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:41 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 00:46 ooo what's xnh 00:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named nerf this", on T:24014 00:49 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack 00:49 xNetHack is pretty cool 00:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 00:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of protection named security blanket", on T:24018 00:59 -!- dograt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of life saving named plan b", on T:24020 01:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power named so bad", on T:24047 01:09 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 01:10 ais523: fh now has magic chests 01:11 hmm 01:11 I still prefer thief stones :-) 01:11 but I can see how it would make sense for people with a different playstyle from mine 01:11 winny: xnh is a 3.6.1 variant designed for balance testing 01:11 that said, I think NetHack for balance needs "temporary resets" every now and then 01:12 it seems neat 01:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:13 ais523: I don't use magic chests myself, aside as a spellbook library. But seeing others play, I have no problem with making their lives easier 01:13 As long as t doesn't disrupt balance 01:13 There is 4 locations for it atm 01:14 I think I will add a player chooseable 5th 01:19 oh so like an enderchest 01:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:21 -!- stenno is now known as Guest37190 01:24 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:25 -!- Guest37190 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:34 !tell larientelrunya yasi: when you gain a level, your hp is set to the maxhp you had on the previous level. So if your maxhp was 96 and the levelup brought it to 114, your hp would be set to 96 not 114 01:34 Will do, Elronnd! 01:37 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:44 . 01:44 LarienTelrunya: Message from Elronnd at 2018-04-25 01:34 EDT: yasi: when you gain a level, your hp is set to the maxhp you had on the previous level. So if your maxhp was 96 and the levelup brought it to 114, your hp would be set to 96 not 114 01:45 Elronnd: huh that would be weird... so, say you have 96/96, you'd then have 96/114 and have to regenerate the difference? 01:46 yeah 01:47 alternate idea that would make more sense but would be more of a drastic change: your hp remains at the same percentage of maxhp. So if you had 16/94 hp, that's ~17%, so going up to 114 maxhp would bring you up to 19hp 01:48 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:51 aosdict: your unicorn taming YANI has the problem that once the unicorn is tame, you can no longer increase your luck by throwing gems to it :D 02:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:58074 02:09 hi 02:09 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 02:10 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 02:16 awww no, Dr Worm swallowed a green slime... 02:18 Dr Worm is now Dr Slime 02:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- stenno is now known as Guest2804 02:26 -!- Guest2804 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:27 Dr Worm is a sublime slime 02:38 <@Winsalot> Honestly sliming has the most graphical messages 02:38 <@Winsalot> "your skin starts peeling away" 02:38 <@Winsalot> Damn 02:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- stenno is now known as Guest1585 02:40 bhaak: I'm finished with the trophies thing, and the images have been uploaded! are you here? 02:41 there should be a trophy in FIQHack for genociding Rodney 02:42 add one! :D 02:55 man I want to show my crappy trophy image artwork to bhaak now :P 02:56 you can wish for magic chests now, they're created on your location 02:56 you can't wish for one in the Planes 02:56 outside wizmode 02:57 and the pre-placed ones are on minetown, soko, castle and orcustown? 02:57 also, do these trophy images look good? https://abload.de/img/allnewtrophiesx4rna.png 03:03 almost too fancy. and you called them crappy :-) 03:04 yaaaaaay bhaak! so, what do you need now? I can give you links to all the individual trophy png images, as well as the (working) new encoding of the achieve bitfields in the xlogfile :D 03:06 version=slex-2.2.2 points=21509 deathdnum=24 deathlev=38 maxlvl=71 hp=87 maxhp=87 deaths=0 deathdate=20180424 birthdate=20180424 uid=1 role=Loc race=Sti gender=Mal align=Law hybrid=none gamemode=none name=wizard death=quit conduct=0x1ddf turns=14 achieve=killed_ruggo achieveX=killed_bofh,get_magresstone realtime=180 starttime=1524603696 endtime=1524603891 gender0=Mal align0=Law flags=0x1 03:06 ^^ that's what the xlog entries will look like now (note the achieve and achieveX fields) 03:11 oh, don't change the achieve field. that was just meant as PoC. that already works and it would be a bit of a headache to support fields with different semantics over different variants. 03:11 in xnh there was a flooded room with a chest in it, underwater. I only detected it by potion of object detection 03:11 in the chest lots of loot, including a magic lamp 03:11 but encodeachieveX looks great. (ha, looks like my code :-) 03:12 bhaak: ugh! so you didn't actually want me to implement the code you linked yesterday?! 03:12 wtf is swimmingpool_cleared? 03:12 had to spend 5 charges of a wand of cold, but got it 03:12 LarienTelrunya: for encodeachieveX, not for encodeachieve 03:12 trophy for reaching the bottom of the swimming pools branch 03:13 would I regret it if I asked what the swimming pools branch is? 03:13 probably not :D it's a rather long branch in Gehennom, and the "reward" for reaching the bottom is a bunch of sunken rings and amulets that you have to get out of the water if you want them 03:13 lots of water terrain in there, obviously 03:13 ProzacElf would love it :D 03:14 anyway, now I already changed encodeachieve too, I guess you want me to change it back to the old method? 03:14 yes, please. having an achieve field that is integer in one variant and one that is a string is problematic. 03:15 also, there is a bitfield comment in encodeachieveX that is not true :) 03:15 whoops! which one? 03:19 4so 03:19 -4 03:19 muse disallows digging down on nondiggable floor 03:19 player digging doesn't 03:19 why? 03:20 there 03:20 I changed it 03:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:21 no reason for it to work like that 03:21 for players 03:21 LarienTelrunya: the whole comment in encodeachieveX, you're no longer returing a bitfield but a string 03:22 oh hahahahaha :D 03:23 also this way I can make specific tiles nondiggable 03:24 so, about the encodeachieve bitfield (the one that I'll change back into a bitfield), that one has also gotten two new achievements, imbued_bell and imbued_amulet (which didn't exist last year) 03:24 the other 8 new achievements are in encodeachieveX 03:26 why don't you add them to encodeachieveX? 03:27 mainly because there was still enough space in encodeachieve (the bitfields can hold up to 32 entries I think?) 03:27 but not enough space to also hold the 8 new ones :D 03:28 that's the beauty of strings. you will never run out of space until memory runs out ;-) 03:29 btw, I tinckered around with the code yesterday evening and made this: killed_uniques=Aphrodite,Vlad the Impaler,One-eyed Sam,Oracle,high priest,Medusa,Wizard of Yendor,Croesus,Executioner,Juiblex,Yeenoghu,Orcus,Geryon,Dispater,Baalzebub,Asmodeus,Demogorgon,Cthulhu,Death,Pestilence,Famine,Lord Carnarvon,Pelias,Shaman Karnov,Robert the Lifer,Hippocrates,King Arthur,Grand Master,Arch Priest,Orion,Master of Thieves,Lord 03:29 Sato,Twoflower,Norn,Neferet the Green,Minion of Huhetotl,Thoth Amon,Tiamat,Warden Arianna,Cyclops,Ixoth,Master Kaen,Nalzok,Scorpius,Master Assassin,Ashikaga Takauji,Lord Surtur,Dark One,Durin's Bane,Watcher in the Water 03:29 in unnethack, that's under 600 characters for all uniques. in SLEX it would be a bit more :-) 03:29 those are all the unnethack uniques? 03:29 yes, 50 03:30 bhaak: slex has , in monster names 03:30 slex apparently has 1434 uniques 03:30 FIQ: that's not a showstopper, just a encoding issue. 03:34 it wouldn't be an issue at all if we would use the ASCII characters that were meant for that (RS,US that is 0x36 and 0x37) but not even I do that 03:35 0x36 and 0x37 is 6 and 7 03:35 -!- Guest1585 has quit [Changing host] 03:35 -!- Guest1585 has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- Guest1585 is now known as stenno 03:35 erm, I meant 36 and 37 03:35 $ and % 03:36 god damn it. I need more coffee 03:36 30 and 31 03:36 that's more liek it 03:36 *like 03:36 the 4 characters before space 03:37 mhm 03:37 but it makes xlogfiles not human readable 03:39 is a xlogfile with as separator human readable? 03:39 yes, mostly 03:39 tab is still a printable 03:39 is also a control character 03:40 both you and me know that they appear in regular text files plenty 03:40 a tab is historically not printable. it's a command to the printer to jump forward to a specific location 03:40 heathens using tab as indentator 03:41 if RS and US would have been used, there would have been a convention on how to render them as well and then it would be as human readable as TAB is 03:41 sure 03:41 but now there isn't 03:41 :P 03:41 lost opportunities 03:41 hmm 03:42 so 0x1c 03:42 was this intended to never be a valid character in a file ever? 03:42 having an ascii character dedicated as a file seperator sounds like asking for trouble 03:42 depends. look at a tar file. you have multiple files in there 03:42 hmm I guess maybe not if intended as part of tarballs 03:43 rather than "proper" file seperators as part of the file system 03:43 the name in the ASCII standard is often historical. it's not always clear if they came from computers at the time and the strange hardware they commanded or if it even goes way back into the 19th century with teletypes 03:44 cr and lf clearly predates computers 03:44 yeah. or BEL is exactly that. when something came over the ticker, it actually rang a bell. 03:46 what is brown and sounds like a bell? dung! 03:47 ASCII was even designed to be somewhat easily implementable in hardware 03:49 the position of the characters is such that just changing one bit often gives a natural companion 03:49 FIQ: wtf, why are tiles with magic chests undiggable? 03:49 that was to ease hardware implementation for the shift key. like A and a of course. 03:49 why do you think? 03:50 but also [ or { 03:50 maybe to not move them elsewhere 03:50 or other weirdness 03:51 IIRC dnethack allows you to move magic chests around :D 03:51 jonadab: hmm you added the coppro-levels branch. Interesting 03:51 dnethack best variant ♥ 03:51 Looks like part of a rewrite of the level handler? 03:51 It does, yes 03:52 In FIQHack, magic chests are objects trying to pose as dungeon features 03:52 This was probably a questionable implementation 03:52 but meh 03:52 it'll do for now 03:53 LarienTelrunya: but picking up magic chests will always burden you in dnh 03:53 FIQ: what if you zap the FIQhack magic chest with tele? will it move? 03:53 unless you have an excessively high carrycap 03:53 it will not 03:54 yeah I noticed the burden thing in dnhslex too because I botched the weight adjustment when I increased the player's carry cap :D 03:54 it has since been corrected and will burden you again 03:56 related https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1914 03:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:57 haha, I love that quote :) 04:12 -!- MysteryMyra has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:35 LarienTelrunya: https://i.imgur.com/cswn3IS.png 04:36 yaaaaaaaay! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's wonderful! 04:36 I really need to do variant specific trophy/achievements pages now. also hiding some achievements you didn't get 04:56 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:56 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:02 Evil Patch idea: "Vorpal Blade decapitates you! But wait... Your medallion begins to glow! Unfortunately your head is still severed..." 05:09 LarienTelrunya: that was easy: https://i.imgur.com/uL1rnU1.png 05:10 oh, nice, so variant-specific achievements will now get their own line? 05:11 it's configurable. you'll notice that the variant-specific achievements are spread over 2 lines. 05:12 all kills are on the first lines, the rest on the second 05:13 btw, you're not in #junethack 05:14 LarienTelrunya: https://github.com/junethack/Junethack/commit/4690d08bb409d64c516efd04f77b097675bdef05 05:14 every achievement has a row property now and this let's you say which are rendered together on the same line 05:14 oh, and I just assumed the linebreak was because that was the amount of icons fitting in a single line! 05:16 -!- [Demo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 05:17 <@kritixilithos> bhaak: those achievement icons look nice, what did you use to create them? 05:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- stenno is now known as Guest81488 05:18 @kritixilithos that was not me that was LarienTelrunya 05:19 bbl, the two little monsters want breakfast 05:19 <@kritixilithos> LarienTelrunya: ^^^ 05:19 MS Paint ;) 05:20 yeah I figured 05:20 wordpad as text editor 05:20 ms paint as image editor 05:20 what do you use to write uni-style documents 05:20 word? 05:20 of course! 05:20 naturally 05:21 hey, I even asked one of my colleagues what she's using, because I wanted to know if there's other, better programs... and she said she also uses word :P 05:21 <@kritixilithos> I didn't expect paint to look this nice :P 05:22 thanks :) 05:22 -!- Guest81488 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:22 can you identify what each of them represents? :D 05:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:26 <@kritixilithos> these are all for junethack, right? how does junethack work (I've never participated in it before) 05:28 https://junethack.net/about - basically, you play nethack and various variants and can earn points and trophies for various in-game achievements 05:28 it starts at june 01 00:00 and runs until june 30 23:59 05:29 <@kritixilithos> (but to answer your question, other than the single-char achievements, if I stare at the others long enough I think I should get it, like the one with W Z V L in the corners and the big L in the centre is something to do with the undead from what I can see) 05:30 yep, that one is the achievement for killing Vecna, who has a lot of wraiths, liches, zombies and vampires on his level 05:37 in https://i.imgur.com/uL1rnU1.png the second line is made up entirely of achievements for killing certain bosses, and the last line is for a couple other specific milestones such as reaching the bottom of the swimming pool branch 05:47 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- stenno is now known as Guest32359 06:23 -!- Guest32359 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:30 The purple worm lunges forward and plucks you off An Ling! 06:31 another possible method of solving the cursed saddle problem 06:34 hah 06:39 hmm 06:39 I wonder if it would be worthwhile to add (optional) animations for stuff 06:41 * LarienTelrunya immediately thinks of the *sparklesparklesparkle* animation (thankfully, good variants like slex and FIQhack allow us to reduce its way-too-long-in-vanilla duration) 06:41 like sparkle yes 06:42 but far less annoying 06:42 and not blocking 06:42 could also simulate more colors with help of animations 06:42 (I don't mean literally more colors by flooding the terminal, that seems a bit harsh, but rather cycle quickly between them) 06:43 Evil Patch idea: "hard mode", which does literally two things, halve the player's speed and double the monster's attack speed. After all, back in the old days of arcade videogames, such methods were the main way to "adjust" the "difficulty". 06:49 <@kritixilithos> ants are going to be so much fun 06:51 Morning 06:51 LarienTelrunya, there are some things that are better off dead. 06:52 hi NCommander! well I'm still not dead yet :D 06:52 LarienTelrunya, think about it like this, you didn't have to deal with NetHack (or SLEX) beam chasing. 06:52 VSYNC chasing is fun 06:52 It also means that your games get tied to the region cause NTSC/PAL 06:53 uhh I'm not familiar with the term "beam chasing", what does it mean? 06:53 So, you know the Atari 2600, right? 06:53 uhh, a little, but I don't think I ever owned one; I had a Commodore when I was little though 06:54 The Atari had 128 bits (as in bits) of memory in total, it wasn't possible to render an arbitrary image or sprite 06:54 What was possible however was to take advantage of how CRTs and TV signals are generated. The processor is JUST barely fast enough that it can calculate in real time what color a given pixel must me and change it 06:54 *must be 06:55 so basically you had to write your program to run in X clock cycles, and be in sync with what pixel was being drawn on screen at a given time. 06:55 omg that sounds ultra annoying 06:55 You could also do that on the VIC-20, and C64 to get past some it's limitations 06:56 LarienTelrunya, it's actually a type of software engineering known as a hard realtime program. 06:56 it's annoying enough that a couple old DOS and Windows 3.1 games run faster depending on clock speed, but thankfully the DOSBOX emulator mostly fixes that problem 06:56 * NCommander remembers WIndows 3.1 06:56 Cooperative multitasking FTW 06:57 and I don't even want to mention the fact that those old games will have no sound output when running them on a modern PC without the emulator because those old soundblaster and hercules and w/e sound cards no longer exist :P 06:57 I still play an ancient DOS wargame called Pacific War on DOSBOX 06:57 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:57 LarienTelrunya, if it was an AdLib compatible, you can actually buy new cards with the correct chip. SoundBlasters, a bit harder 06:57 heh, I grew up with win 3.1, and played Castle of the Winds for over a decade ♥ 06:57 * NCommander googles 06:58 I'm going to assume that's not an H-game and not have my brain melted 06:58 back then I had zero idea that the "roguelike" genre existed, yet I was playing one for most of my child- and youngadulthood 06:58 I played PC-Rogue for DOS 06:58 Never got the amulet in that one, should probably reinstall it. I've also dusted off some the UNIX copies of rogue 06:58 CoW is also one of the reason why I consider all nethack tilesets (apart from ASCII) butt ugly, because none of them compares to CoW's beautiful tiles 06:59 * NCommander tooks ages to live with IBMgraphics 06:59 LarienTelrunya, so how goes your drawing progress on SLEX's tileset :) 06:59 wut 06:59 Well, shouldn't SLEX have a tiles mode at some point? 06:59 It only needs a remarkable number of sprites. Don't even have to worry about animation! 07:00 uhh, nope, that's not planned 07:00 anyway, this is what CoW looks like: https://hg101.kontek.net/castleofthewinds/lb-3.png 07:00 Oh cool, it got released as freeware 07:01 * NCommander puts it on his to play list 07:01 I keep meaning to try ADOM 07:01 lol and the player in that screenshot apparently didn't use the constitution cheat, yet is fighting a frost giant in melee with such a crappy HP maximum... I'm wondering if his strategy is to spam the healing spell :P 07:02 https://episodiccontentmag.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/roguedos2.gif?w=700 - my rogue like experience 07:02 Played on this dinosaur http://www.thepcmuseum.net/details.php?RECORD_KEY%28museum%29=id&id(museum)=641&PHPSESSID=bc2ab4a59f71e17aa50141509f54ebc0 07:03 I've been really tempted to track down one of these AST Premium Exec laptops. I actually found one in PDX, but the HDD was MIA so I passed. 07:03 Kinda wish I grabbed it in hindsight. I could have just made a DOS bootfloppy, and used a paralle port ZIP drive. 07:03 yaaaaaaaaaay epyx rogue ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun fact: you can get fleecy-colored versions of those graphics in SLEX when playing on windows! 07:04 huh, that PC is from 1990??? it looks rather modern to me! 07:04 Even had a color LCD 07:04 and a lead-acid battery that would last about eight hours and weigh 10 pounds. 07:05 Loved that machine. Used to use ProComm Plus on it 07:05 It ran Windows, but Windows+passive LCD :( 07:06 I also used to play Pacific War on that machine 07:06 what I liked to play often were DOS games like Digger or Highway Hunter (ah, the memories ♥) 07:07 http://www.matrixgames.com/files/games/s235_USLCU.jpg - got to love those old school EGA graphics. 07:07 http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/819/Highway%20Hunter_5.png pew pew pew! 07:07 LarienTelrunya, I actually do a ton of retro computing projects. I recently helped w/ a review of NeXTstep 07:08 and what it was like as a developer 07:08 ... and now I wonder if I could make an operating system from 1995 play SLEX :P 07:08 even though the terminal doesn't support ANSI color. 07:08 yay 07:08 I have animations 07:09 haha, I guess one would have to first update all those MS-DOS makefiles 07:09 LarienTelrunya, uh, NeXTstep is UNIX based. It (eventually) mutated into Mac OS X :P 07:09 oh 07:09 FAILED (failures=18, errors=27, successes=232) - I CAN SEE THE END OF THIS PORTING PROJECT 07:09 a titan that blinks blue 0.1s every second :D 07:10 LarienTelrunya, ... though honestly, now I'm tempted to see if I can get SLEX to build for DOS mostly to watch you use it for your next character. 07:10 very complex technology 07:10 FIQ, so he had a strange mood and made a pewter boot in Year 1 of the dungeon? 07:10 now if I can have this thing do something actually useful 07:11 like for example, adding info on sleeping monsters for example 07:11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=IoLrpMWMCFQ - if you want to see where Mac OS X came from; I show the development stuff at 9:00 07:11 NCommander: uhh, good luck :D not sure if the msdos makefiles are even updated for regular slashem 07:11 LarienTelrunya, it's easier than ascending SLEX. 07:12 * LarienTelrunya calls Tariru 07:13 It's kinda like this old joke? 07:13 https://pics.esmemes.com/Facebook-Svetoslav-Svetlozarov-5fe2ac.png 07:14 hey, you could play an angelic rogue and just steamroller the entire game, as has been proven by Tariru :D 07:14 slex confirmed too easy to ascend, will have to fix 07:14 I saw that ascension, but I'm not sure one can steamroller through SLEX 07:15 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 07:17 damn it to hell, there was something I wanted to ask you yesterday before you !existed, and now I can't remember :( 07:18 huh, I didn't exist a day ago? but according to my birth certificate I'm on this world since 31 years! 07:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:19 LarienTelrunya, you're a game developer/modder, we both know when you have the source code to something, you can retroactively change the future/past 07:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:19 also geeze 07:20 I both feel old and young :/ 07:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest56202 07:20 * NCommander will be 30 in less than a month :) / :( 07:20 08:58 bhaak, ... where's Amy when you need to make a joke at SLEX's expense09:02 If you ascend in nethack, you ascend in real life?09:02 * NCommander ascended from NAO to hardfought 07:20 ^^ that? 07:21 probably. Context has been forgotten 07:21 * NCommander is waiting here for an interview call in 40 minutes :/ 07:21 NCommander: what project are you working on 07:21 how about I interview you while you're waiting? :D 07:22 NCommander: Greetings, sir, my name is Amy from the slexomatic institute. I'd like to do a short survey, would you mind asking a few questions? The first question is: Do you like high heels? 07:22 FIQ, the one I'm currently working on, or the one I'm interviewing for? 07:22 LarienTelrunya, it depends how attractive the foot in the heel is. 07:23 NCommander: the test thing 07:23 FIQ, it's GlobaLeak's (https://globaleaks.org) unit tests 07:23 :D 07:23 NCommander: I mean, what is the project itself 07:23 btw NCommander, I'm not sure if you saw this yet? https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7vdmg8/a_survey_about_slashem_extended/ :D 07:23 what are you porting 07:23 I'm currently kicking the codebase kicking and screaming onto python 3. 07:23 sorry for being unclear 07:23 FIQ, a whistleblowing platform :) 07:23 ah 07:23 GlobaLeaks is the name 07:24 LarienTelrunya, see, now I can't fill that out since you just need to look for the most recent entry 07:24 I first read it as "I use the unit test system from X" 07:24 rather than actually answering what my question was 07:24 sorry 07:24 lol 07:25 Yeah, well this got started by a ridicious change of events 07:25 -!- Guest56202 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:25 I was *really* sick two weeks ago, and was volunteering 07:25 I was too sick to get out of bed, but I could work on the laptop. But the laptop only runs WIndows 07:25 NCommander: huh, so that most recent entry was you? :) 07:25 So I ported GlobaLeaks to Windows, which required patching Python 2.7 to add missing functionality. 07:26 *chain 07:26 *chain 07:26 LarienTelrunya: that's not what NCommander meant 07:26 rather, since the survey is "dead" 07:26 LarienTelrunya, I'm filling it out mostly to be amusing. 07:26 it will be obvious who NCommander is 07:26 if he/she replies 07:27 FIQ, considering I put my name in one of the answer fields, yeah 07:27 NCommander: are you sure that is enough 07:27 FIQ: I've had that branch locally for a long time; I just pushed it so someone else could look at it. (coppro's own public repo is no longer available, since gitorious was bought out and shut down.) 07:27 yeah but I'm not keeping track of that, and every once in a couple months someone takes the "dead" survey again so I won't be able to associate the entries with people unless they give it away :D 07:27 I liked my answer to Are there parts of the game you consider offensive? 07:27 Other: "Yes" 07:28 FIQ, well, nastytraps are fine as long as they're disabled when I'm playing ;) 07:28 hahaha, thanks for participating :D 07:28 wait, LarienTelrunya disables features people find annoying while they play? 07:28 that's quite a good customer service 07:29 FIQ, pfft, I'm fairly sure if you can ascend a failed existance, she'll fly to you in real life and provide tea in very sharp but sexy shoes. 07:29 hmm 07:29 too bad I'm not interested in any boots 07:29 I am fine with the ones I wear 07:29 * NCommander is a steel tipped shoe kinda man. 07:30 I'm fairly sure I don't meet SLEX's definition of awesome footware. I have a real life set of kicking boots, bicycle cletes, and sandals. 07:39 LarienTelrunya, I'm actually seeing if SLEX will build on MS-DOS 07:39 Cause damn it, the idea is stuck in my head, and I need to do something stupid to unwind. 07:39 heh, it probably won't work correctly without major adjustments to the makefiles and stuff 07:40 but good luck! maybe it can be done! 07:41 "how hard could it be 07:44 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 07:45 -!- dtype has quit [] 07:45 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:47 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 07:47 Ok, got GCC for DOS 07:50 and SLEX's git download is huge ._. 07:51 NCommander: if you're going down that route 07:51 see if NH4 also runs on DOS 07:52 or fiqhack if you want to deal with something that isn't aimake 07:53 FIQ, well I already kicked SLEX's build 07:54 https://imgur.com/a/d3HoI7K 07:54 ^- LarienTelrunya if you want to live the oldschool factor 07:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:54 FIQ, I can try it after I get fedup :) but I don't think the UI code for Nh4 for DOS even exists anymore 07:55 NCommander: well, good luck, it'll most certainly fail to compile :D 07:55 NCommander: is there a particular reason as to why libuncursed wouldn't run in DOS 07:55 it's trying monst.c 07:57 lol 07:57 DOSbox has an entire core pegged 07:57 try it on a real DOS machine ;) 07:58 well DOS is an OS, but you get what I mean 07:58 FIQ, I don't think I have a 386 with a large enough HDD to download SLEX's git repo 07:59 FIQ, for FIQ/Nh4, I'd probably just cross-compile from Linux vs. trying native compilation 07:59 Less that can go wrong. 07:59 or frustate me 07:59 or I could just pull out the OS/2 floppies 08:00 LarienTelrunya, well, SLEX failed to compile but not the reason you'd like suspect 08:00 well what was the reason? 08:00 https://imgur.com/a/2fpc7lP 08:01 monst.c broke the compilers will to live. 08:01 aww 08:01 Fortunately, I know several compiler resuistation techniques. 08:01 that's probably why the "horrible kludge splitmon" thing exists in SLASH'EM 08:03 Grassy: flooded room with chest in it is intentional. You got lucky with the magic lamp, it's a 10% chance. 08:06 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19846 08:10 NCommander: there is a major hurdle 08:10 not just with NH4, but any nethack 08:10 makedefs 08:10 means cross-compilation is generally unavailable 08:10 I'm on my interview, but I'll futz with it afterwards 08:11 LarienTelrunya: yep, that's why the splitting thing is there 08:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest4082 08:23 -!- dograt has quit [*.net *.split] 08:23 -!- Mandevil has quit [*.net *.split] 08:25 -!- Guest4082 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:25 -!- mcw has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:26 -!- mcw has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by cherryh.freenode.net 08:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:32 Well that was a bust 08:32 *sigh* 08:32 Really just ... 08:32 ARGH 08:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 30946 points, T:7199, killed by the wrath of Tyr 08:55 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:21205 08:59 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:06 @4k?titanothere 09:06 titanothere (q) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d8 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 2472 points, T:1996, killed by a watch captain 09:19 @4k?gryphon 09:19 gryphon ~3~ Archon (A) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -6 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 cast spell | Alignment: 15 | Flags: flies, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 09:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:21 -!- stenno is now known as Guest11644 09:22 FIQ, so it looks like DOSBOX has a hardcoded limitation of 64 MiB of RAM 09:23 which I just reconfigured it to use (it was at 16 MiB), I'll have to install FreeDOS if I want to use up to 4 GiB 09:23 [hdf-us] [nd] hypnotist (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16135 09:23 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 09:25 -!- Guest11644 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 1365 points, T:2301, quit 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 215 points, T:397, killed by a dwarf 09:38 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:21257 09:39 "They say that once an Olog-Hai is canned it never shows its face again." Thanks oracle :) 09:45 aosdict, so the chance for a magic lamp in the flooded room chest is as high as 10%? Not bad odds. There was some other good loot in the chest too (can't remember it all now), and around $3500 in gold 09:46 Tangles, Oracle would be good at a party, coming up with mysterious one-liners 09:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:49 * NCommander attacks the paperwork demon 09:50 Fellowship application, passport renewal 09:51 Can some variant add a new special feature filled with paperwork that I can burn with a wand of fire? 09:51 It would be far satisifying to watch it go up vs. trying to get that silly amulet 10:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:20 Grassy: any other good loot in the chest is just random 10:20