01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:31 -!- dell00 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 01:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:50 . 01:50 !ping 01:50 LarienTelrunya: Pong! 01:52 !tell Winsalot burninator plays differently from other races in that you need to melee things to recover HP/Pw; since bloodseeker is mainly a melee role, it should be a good choice 01:52 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:58 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 02:26 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 02:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:41 Hmm, I wonder how nethack's data.base (the encyclopedia) works. There's an entry for *golem and one for gold golem, I guess you absolutely must put ~gold golem in front of the *golem entry to ensure that inputting "gold golem" gives the correct one? 03:04 !tell aosdict: mcw 03:04 Will do, mcw! 03:05 !tell [Demo]: neither are random; mcw was my original unix username a long time ago back at school, tubs is because I have fat hands. 03:05 Will do, mcw! 03:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 03:10 <@Winsalot> YANI: demigod level where the boss is bones of someone who has recently ascended. 03:10 @Winsalot: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-04-24 01:52 EDT: burninator plays differently from other races in that you need to melee things to recover HP/Pw; since bloodseeker is mainly a melee role, it should be a good choice 03:14 hi Winsalot! you can encounter undead player monsters in slex in some circumstances, they're taken directly from the high-score list :) 03:17 !tell mtf Worst comes to the worst you could always rate-limit on the bot-side? 03:17 Will do, mcw! 03:25 <@Winsalot> Btw I think I already murdered someone in slex 03:25 <@Winsalot> As burninator 03:25 <@Winsalot> Is it very bad? 03:26 murder penalties are minor; as a non-chaotic you lose telepathy and a couple alignment record points 03:27 <@Winsalot> And as chaotic? 03:27 <@Winsalot> Which I always play :) 03:27 as a chaotic there may be a negligible alignment penalty and that's it, so as long as you also kill some hostile monsters it's a non-issue ;) 03:29 cannibalism is much more dangerous by comparison 03:30 LarienTelrunya: Re: database, yes. 03:31 thanks :) I'm in the process of writing new entries for slex 03:32 bhaak: anything particular I should add to the "unnethack" entry if I make one? :D 03:34 LarienTelrunya: "the bestest nethack variant written by the most handsome nethack variant developer" maybe? 03:34 okay :) 03:34 <@Winsalot> Though it might have been cannibalism, not murder lol. I dont remember exactly 03:35 Winsalot: do you want to play? I could watch ♥ 03:36 oh, just saw your comment on bouquet's reddit thread too :D nice one! have an upvote :) 03:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:49 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:50 bhaak: I dunno about LarienTelrunya but I don't know what every variant developer looks like, for all I know FIQ is a paragon of handsomeness 03:54 <@Winsalot> Im at work right now. Cant play :) 03:56 Pinkbeast: I could show you a picture of my wedding boots if you like ;) 03:57 Pinkbeast: but haven't you seen me in person? so you can vouch for my handsomeness 03:57 It wouldn't help, I would have to be familiar with the appearance of every variant developer to certify bhaak as the most handsome 03:58 you could at least certify me as the one with the sexiest boots ♥ gotta love the cute white stiletto heels! 03:58 they're dangerous enough that they should really require a weapons license, too :D 03:59 Again, while the odds might be in your favour, I haven't seen every variant developer's boots. :-) 04:00 while we're at it: Pinkbeast: do you want to play ♥S♥L♥E♥X♥ and have your character wear fleecy stiletto heel boots? *bundlebundlebundle* 04:00 you can use a qualifier. "hard to imagine some boots to be more sexy" 04:00 "must be in the top 10" 04:01 bhaak: I see where this is going, before I know where I am I'll be putting you in the top ten, handsomeness-wise :-) 04:01 Not I, what I want to do is pack for the Whitby Goth Weekend, eat, sleep, get up, and sit on trains and a bicycle for seven hours. 04:01 of course FIQ is handsome, he is Swedishmasterrace? 04:02 Pinkbeast: yuck, that sounds suspiciously like exercise to me... 04:04 mcw: I blame Dr Beeching 04:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:09 Pinkbeast: don't trust doctors 04:09 Pinkbeast: they want you to do horrible things like "go outside" "stop drinking" 04:12 Beeching was not an MD, but is partly responsible for the 8 miles of not-railway where the bicycle therefore gets in on the act. No Beeching, no exercise. 04:14 * mcw shudders 04:15 Starting tomorrow I need to walk 2 miles to work 04:15 Ia m going to arrive like niagra 04:16 I'd rather ride 8 miles than walk 2 04:16 alright, here's a couple new slex database entries: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/9c9c28cda0abf5c04c71fc7f667e08b1ad65d968 - file your objections now if you want me to remove specific ones :D 04:18 I see you have refrained from expressing an opinion on bhaak's handsomeness 04:19 oh, scroll down to the unnethack entry :D 04:20 LarienTelrunya: who is Anna? 04:21 mcw: play a gang scholar in slex and you will understand ;) 04:21 or actually, find an unaligned altar as a gang scholar 04:22 * Pinkbeast gets to the bottom. Now is not the time to mention I rather liked Sporkhack, is it? 04:22 :p 04:23 urgh, I'd rather play a dozen FIQhack games in a row than one sporkhack game 04:24 I think it is already clear that thee and me have rather different tastes. For example, I own only one pair of boots. 04:24 I usually only wear crocs 04:24 * mcw is too cool for school. 04:25 well currently I wear a pair of bang-red "Victory" sneakers, but I do have quite a bunch of pairs of boots 04:26 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:36 LarienTelrunya: what's the issue with nh4's disintegration resistance? 04:44 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 04:49 I would not rate myself as particularily handsome 04:49 I guess it could be worse 04:52 LarienTelrunya: I never used the word "kill". I just said some sort of punishment for using slashem code. the problem with that is, you would enjoy a good spanking 04:52 bhaak: :D you bet I would! 04:53 LarienTelrunya: I'm not sure if that is a strike against FIQHack or not... 04:53 anyway, disintegration resistance in all nh4 variants doesn't protect your gear. Only items that themselves are disintegration resistant (are there any besides BDSM?) will be preserved. 04:54 FIQ: well, as you know by now, I don't like FIQhack all that much, but I'd still absolutely prefer it over spork 04:54 Interesting 04:54 Why? 04:54 @spork 04:54 percentage-based resistances URGH 04:54 Ah 04:54 also https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/9c9c28cda0abf5c04c71fc7f667e08b1ad65d968 :D 04:55 Well fiqhack has partial resistances 04:56 yeah, dynahack does too, yet in dyna it was manageable while in spork it was not 04:56 Re handsomeness, I may be being unfair here but I imagine the average variant developer resembles me in that they're a slightly pear-shaped man. # yeah, I know you ain't _all_ slightly pear-shaped men 04:57 LarienTelrunya: A Samurai gets skilled wand skill 04:58 Coupled with blessing wands, you only miss out on master effects 04:58 And those are far stronger than any vanilla wand 04:58 yeah but you have to use holy water for every single wand! 04:58 Even if you don't 04:58 your wands of death are stronger than vanilla 04:58 *Cursed* wands of death are equal with vanilla for you at skilled 04:59 there are videos from me on the net, so everybody can check out how pear shaped I am. and if that changed over the years :) 04:59 also FIQHack has 3 main design goals 04:59 improve monster AI 04:59 improve monster/player symmetry 04:59 and improve QoL 05:00 and if it's about impressing LarienTelrunya, I think she's from the region where this saying originated: "a man without a paunch is a cripple" 05:01 Quality of Life? 05:01 bhaak: well, as a lesbian I usually am not impressed by a man's body shape anyway 05:02 bhaak: yes, quality of life 05:02 it's like 05:02 half the reason most people actually play fh 05:02 FIQ: oh, one more thing that makes spork a complete showstopper is the "lol your comr just got unerosionproofed by a regular lich, now have fun disrobing, confusing yourself and reading another valuable scroll (which are in limited supply due to the nonexistance of magic markers)" BS. 05:04 also that change to blessed genocide... even the unnethack method is better :P 05:04 LarienTelrunya: btw, fun fact 05:04 I am working on implementing magic chests 05:04 yaaaaaay! 05:04 steal the fourk code :D 05:04 Unnethack-specific ones include some goddamn 05:05 + "fook yoo" barrier when trying to levelport too deep, forcing you 05:05 + to take notes of the vibrating square location 05:05 I remember this 05:05 Annoying feature 05:05 ^^ 05:05 It should be obvious what you mean by 99 without having to take notes on where the VS actually is 05:05 Ok I can sort of get why you would want to restrict it before the player actually gets that far 05:05 well, I can see why the restriction is there... but it should be lifted as soon as you actually mapped the VS! 05:05 But restricting it after the player has ever entered the VS, it's silly 05:05 exactly! 05:06 and you can't #overview when already at the "Which level do you want to teleport to?" prompt :P 05:06 bhaak: fix plz :P 05:06 LarienTelrunya: That's another thing 05:06 *bundlebundlebundle* 05:06 I intend to allow the player to view the overview when levelporting 05:06 and choose the level from that menu 05:06 I really like the subversion of the standard dungeon crawl mechanic which just teleporting to the bottom gives you 05:06 wizard mode allows you to enter ? to get a full menu, maybe non-wizmode could get a restricted menu that only shows where you've been 05:06 LarienTelrunya: damn, I can't reply to that without running the risk of possibly being misunderstood as really insulting. so I just say that I don't want to kill you and I would probably not have the courage to really spank should we met in person 05:07 bhaak: well, how about we turn things around then and I spank you instead? being whacked by my sexy leather pumps feels very soothing and painful! ♥ 05:08 just imagine what the tender, yet massive cone heel can do! 05:08 I don't think painful and soothing goes well together 05:09 LarienTelrunya: I can imagine but it's too risky. if you suddenly remember some of my unnethack shenanigans, it might get too painful 05:09 hahaha :D 05:09 well you said not everything in unnethack has been coded by you? who is the other evil variant developer that did the other stuff? 05:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:11 Guest_41 was for about a year a very active developer. the whole Moria branch is his or her idea and implementation 05:12 wasn't he behind most of unnethack 5? 05:12 but he or she disappeared quite suddenly and has not surfaced since 05:12 yes 05:12 so he is the one to blame for tungtn giving up trying to get up to speed with unnethack :P 05:12 exactly 05:13 IIRC he only started un development because he read sokoban notes on the wiki 05:13 notes that tungtn wrote 05:13 bhaak: heh for one moment I thought you referred to Adeon, but he made Sheol, not Moria 05:13 interesting how things turn out sometimes 05:14 Sheol ♥ such a wonderful branch! bhaak: you should really look at slex's sheol.des to see the beautiful new levels I've added :D 05:14 so if it wasn't for tungtn's wiki notes 05:14 there would not have been an unnethack 5 05:15 LarienTelrunya: btw 05:15 spork is where the cruel orctown originated 05:15 hmm I wonder if there is a way to get a counter for the amount of times I use ♥ in my posts 05:15 hahaha, orctown ♥ (I know I'm a filthy heretic for being the only player who actually LIKES orctown) 05:16 FIQ, LarienTelrunya I think the "don't jump to the bottom of a branch by overflowing the dungeon level number" is still a valid thing. for realistic reasons, why should the player land exactly there? and for gameplay reasons, you can still jump down but possibly need more resources. 05:16 (but then again I'm also the filthy heretic that likes the amnesia mechanic) 05:16 bhaak: but we are talking about if you already visited VS 05:16 meaning you can either remember the VS dlvl and type that 05:16 or type 99 which is much easier 05:16 in un, 99 doesn't work 05:17 LarienTelrunya: I like orctown, too. I generally like stuff that adds game play variety (even if sometimes the player is a bit forced to do it) 05:17 LarienTelrunya: you lack quotes about dnh, dyna and 3.6.x 05:17 bhaak: really? :) 05:17 FIQ: it's a work in progress, more will be added 05:17 ah, that. okay, that's a criticism that I would call valid. 05:18 bhaak: basically 05:18 I am suggesting that typing unvisited levels do... whatever typing 99 does atm 05:18 and typing 99 translates to VS/Sanctum like before 05:18 (or other bottom levels) 05:19 it solves the same issue while keeping the ability to not need to remember the actual bottom 05:19 level 05:21 LarienTelrunya: btw I am curious what you think about the new water elementals in FIQHack 05:21 I intend to do something similar to how they work, with going in water in general 05:21 rather than instadrown 05:21 well, if they're like grunthack water elementals then they are evil :D 05:21 they are, more or less 05:21 but the timer is much longer 05:22 2Con/3 05:22 yes, but all your stuff will get rusted and blanked, and unlike slex the bag of holding can only have a single layer of grease 05:22 oh but you don't take water damage 05:22 I want to add this but I need to balance water damage first 05:22 it's much too harsh atm 05:23 ah 05:23 are there oilskin bags of holding in FIQhack? 05:23 yes 05:24 you can dip a BoH into wonder 05:24 to make one 05:24 or you can find one with a bit of luck 05:24 ah, nice 05:24 they're probably going to be popular if you add more sources of water damage to player's items :D 05:25 I have also started to consider making a guranteed source of 1 potion of wonder in the game 05:25 unsure where to place it though 05:27 you should steal slex's illusory castle and add a potion of wonder to the reward ;) 05:27 not that anyone will ever manage to beat the illusory castle, but who cares... :D 05:29 !tell K2 pushed minor fix: show the correct alignment when firing up an existing game 05:29 Will do, FIQ! 05:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:52566 05:45 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 05:53 !tell Chris_ANG wtf, Lamashtu still doesn't have an encyclopedia entry? 05:53 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 06:00 how the heck does one get rid of a cursed saddle? 06:00 Ixoth cursed An Ling's saddle and now I'm stuck 06:02 elenmirie: 0) bless your saddle to avoid this. 1) The only ways to get unstuck are to pray to have your god uncurse the saddle, to zap a wand or spell of knock downwards, ride downstairs while Burdened (does not work if your steed can fly), or to polymorph yourself or your steed into something that can't ride, including eating a mimic # says the Wiki 06:03 heh, thanks 06:27 heh programmers think in binary terms (0 or 1) lol 06:27 Evil Patch idea: to deter would-be shoplifters, all shopkeepers are elder priests, with all of the abilities the original elder priest comes with. 06:29 <[Demo]> no 06:29 [Demo]: Message from mcw at 2018-04-24 03:05 EDT: neither are random; mcw was my original unix username a long time ago back at school, tubs is because I have fat hands. 06:29 <[Demo]> I'm gonna call the keystone cops to take away your variant amy 06:32 heh, I'm not actually implementing that 06:32 just adding fodder to the EPI list; who knows, maybe someday a variant developer comes along and creates a nethack variant that implements the ideas I didn't implement in slex? 06:49 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 06:52 Wooo I made a thing https://i.imgur.com/YgqENkF.mp4 06:52 For level editing! 06:53 yay! will it have a "random terrain" brush? :D 06:53 Yeah, want to do a bunch of utility stuff 06:53 Like "room" which will mark floor, walls, and light the room 06:54 Main thing to support is the stupid wanky regions from .des files 06:54 Because editing them by hand is literally the biggest ballache 06:56 After burrrrping through the Valley, Dr Worm is lv35 06:56 Woo Dr Worm! 06:56 <@Winsalot> mcw: holy shit, is that in terminal? 06:57 Wins, no, it's an allegro app 06:57 Wins should run on any OS though 06:57 I dunno how to do good mouse shit in terminals? 06:57 And yes it load/save .des files :-) 06:58 I bet all kinds of terminals are full of mouse shit 07:00 used a blessed potion of object detection for first level after the Valley, and it shows me "a scroll in molten lava". 07:00 wtf 07:00 mcw: no ttyrec? 07:00 Maybe the scroll is wearing fireproof water walking? 07:01 FIQ: it's not in terminal 07:01 I can't view mp4 here 07:01 ah 07:01 FIQ: gifv? 07:01 any reason not? 07:01 https://i.imgur.com/YgqENkF.gifv 07:01 gifv works ok 07:01 oh, and a magic lamp :D 07:01 your link redirected to gifv 07:01 for some rason 07:01 *reason 07:01 "imgur magic" 07:01 FIQ: It's a UI for editing .des files 07:01 mcw: yes I realize 07:01 So doing it in a terminal is a bit eh 07:02 but why not terminal 07:02 Damn you're on to me. 07:02 UI is poop in terminal, I need to show all the "layers" as lists and stuff 07:02 Also I dunno how to do mouse things 07:02 libuncursed does have mouse support 07:02 saner than ncurses 07:02 I was debating trying that, but honestly, if you are editing .des is a GUI that bad? 07:03 yes because I can't use that on the go as easily 07:03 sorry 07:03 you have done good work 07:03 it's impressive 07:03 Oh yes your magic little thingie! :) 07:03 I just don't see myself using it 07:03 it probably runs fine on the OP 07:03 but I prefer doing stuff in terminal 07:03 Aye 07:03 I get that 07:03 because then I can seamlessy move over 07:04 desktop/OP/other placs 07:04 *places 07:04 * mcw nods 07:04 It still exports .des so you can still open elsewhere! 07:04 of course 07:04 but then I need to move files over :P 07:04 I never bothered setting up something akin to rsync 07:05 Ahh, I just git everything between everywhere 07:05 yeah I did that at first on OP<->desktop 07:05 but I didn't like commiting half-finished things 07:05 it violated my "never commit things that doesn't compile" 07:05 I use a separate remote for in-progress stuff 07:05 fair 07:06 remote + branch, I should say 07:06 Yeah, commits to master/proper branches should build 07:06 Modulo my laziness! 07:06 it happens that I commit things that fail to compile 07:06 every now and then 07:06 but it's rare 07:06 I try to remember to compile every time... :) 07:07 <@Winsalot> Btw my terminal registers mouse scroll as movement in nethack. Alsmost died once in plane of air because of this :) 07:07 I should change my workflow so that I use a shell script to commit 07:07 which first tries to build 07:07 and if it fails, refuse to commit 07:07 that way I can't forget 07:07 :P 07:07 @Winsalot you play FIQHack 07:08 you can enable mouse control if you like in it 07:08 but yeah, if mouse control is disabled, several terminals parse scroll as "up/down 4 times" or something like that 07:08 Yeah, breaks tmux sometimes 07:14 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 07:14 Look at how good my cat is at going up stairs https://i.imgur.com/TzYoUPC.mp4 07:16 mcw: your cat is using bullet-time cheats! omg hax! :P 07:17 :D 07:17 Must be wearing boots of jumping 07:17 He was chasing a squeaky mousy 07:17 !tell ais523 One thing I like about dNetHack's special levels/etc is the way dNetHack makes use of special-cased colors. Do you think it would be a good idea to be able to define custom tile strings in a .des file? For example, let's say I want a special level to use grass. Instead of creating a full-blown "grass" tile I could make floor and in a .des define the floor to be a "grass" tile for the tileset 07:17 Will do, FIQ! 07:17 parser to pickup 07:18 !tell ais523 parser to pickup 07:18 Will do, FIQ! 07:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:18 FIQ: that's a good diea actually 07:18 idea 07:18 I was going to define grass etc separately 07:18 but it is a bit poo 07:18 As long as ';' works properly 07:19 mcw: basically the way I'd implement it if it was up to me 07:19 is to define, say, up to 31 custom tile identifiers for a level 07:19 and use them 07:19 Can someone make a grasshopper monster? It is only dangerous if your current form's corpse would be vegan. Otherwise it will wander and randomly spout amusing anecdotes 07:20 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 07:20 Grasshopper: suggest it to LarienTelrunya 07:21 LarienTelrunya, ^^ 07:21 ^_^ 07:22 Grasshopper: it has to tell the player that its vegan when chatted to? 07:22 @le?giant grasshopper 07:22 giant grasshopper (a) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 5 | Generates: special | AC: 3 | Attacks: 1d3 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, oviparous 07:22 (attacks everyone though) 07:22 LarienTelrunya, :D 07:22 mcw: HAHAHA 07:22 I feel happy 07:22 all vegans I've met in real life were like that 07:22 * mcw assumes Grasshopper is vegan? 07:22 I am already a giant :D 07:23 LarienTelrunya, you live! 07:23 NCommander: debatable. 07:23 mcw I had an angus burger with triple cheese and bacon for lunch 07:23 obviously you haven't played SLEX this morning 07:23 I'd say she's closer to undead? 07:23 Grasshopper: ah, so actually you should be hostile to players that are *still* vegan :p 07:23 * NCommander pulls one of his many wands of undead turning 07:23 NCommander: huh, I would have died if I had played SLEX this morning? well then, I guess good thing I didn't? 07:23 Also good (wo)man Grasshopper ! 07:23 mcw: it means roughly 211709B extra on each binary save 07:23 mcw, that too as their corpses won't have that carnivore smell 07:24 1 byte per map tile for custom identifier 07:24 LarienTelrunya, let's be honest, every game of SLEX ends in a call to die(). even ascension 07:24 FIQ: I was going to ask - how big are nh4 saves by endgame? 07:24 average (arbitrary) string length on each level's custom tiles of 16 bytes (8*2) 07:24 mcw grasshoppers, even giant ones, wouldn't be particularly dangerous to anyhing that is not a vegetable 07:24 the string length stuff is negligible so it doesn't matter if it's inaccurate 07:24 Grasshopper: mutated! 07:25 the big part is the additional bytes for each tile 07:25 FIQ: should compress well 07:25 mcw: I think, for save compression reasons, it would be best to save the custom identifier bytes last in a level save 07:25 except for those present ofc, but then I'm not particularly dangerous either 07:25 because the vast majority of them will be all 0 07:25 FIQ: to give them the best run of 0s? 07:25 * mcw nods 07:26 Tbh you can flag "no custom bytes" 07:26 Since the majority of levels won't have any 07:26 mcw: I changed compression algo somewhat recently because valgrind cried whenever I ran NH4 in it (used to use zlib) 07:26 This worsened compression size significantly 07:26 Have you tried zstd or lz4? 07:26 There is a version of the algo I use that compresses slower (but with the same decompression speed) 07:27 So I should use that instead 07:27 But I haven't bothered fixing ti yet 07:27 *it yet 07:27 Until it's an issue, eh 07:27 No real need to fix 07:27 mcw: A NH4 save is roughly 8M on asc. A FIQHack save is roughly 30M 07:27 And that's ~50 levels? 07:27 I guess closer to 100 with branches 07:27 Roughly 80 I'd say 07:27 with branches 07:28 Cool, so I need to aim for about 100k/level 07:28 <[Demo]> nice 07:28 50ish for the main dungeon 07:28 (post compression) 07:28 10ish for the mines 07:28 4 for sokoban 07:28 NCommander: do you want to ascend one? *bundlebundlebundle* 07:28 5-6 for quest 07:28 3 for vlad 07:28 But not more than 1MB/level 07:28 1 for ludios 07:28 So 80ish 07:28 And people won't cry! 07:28 mcw: Keep in mind, a NH4 save makes several binary saves, and use diffs 07:29 fh is bigger because it 0pads things to allow changes to not break saves? 07:29 So 100K/level after compression is too much 07:29 FIQ: ah 07:29 No 07:29 It is bigger because it uses lz4 07:29 (not lz4hc, standard lz4) 07:29 LarienTelrunya, ascend one what? 07:29 Ahh, yeah, way faster decompression 07:29 a slex character :D 07:29 lz4 <3 07:29 * NCommander unbundles LarienTelrunya into a Larien, a Telrunya, and an a strange collection of exotic footware 07:29 omg I must absolutely add that quote to slex :D 07:30 zstd is the same guy, but it's designed to be more balanced between lz4hc and lz4, so you can choose where you want your balance point to be. 07:30 mcw: I dare you to try to load a big NH4 save in valgrind 07:30 It is painfu 07:30 l 07:30 I will never! 07:30 FIQ, I'll see your challenge, and I'll raise you thunderbird 07:30 But now I need to go to lunch - brother works at Google and lunch there = UNLIMITED FREE FOOD. 07:30 * mcw will expand 07:30 mcw: well I think lz4hc just slows down compression? 07:30 In a bit! 07:30 not decompression 07:30 -!- ais523_ has joined #hardfought 07:30 FIQ: yeah just compression 07:30 compression isn't a huge problem 07:30 Ah right 07:30 -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523 07:30 hi 07:30 Hello ais523, Welcome to #hardfought 07:30 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2018-04-20 04:27 EDT: When you split messages into chunks, do trailing spaces disappear? That would explain why the message history sometimes lack spaces: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/8dh7kx/leprechaun_killed_my_pet_dog/?st=jg7oysiu&sh=a047e608 07:30 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2018-04-20 07:39 EDT: wouldn't -1 have made more sense as an "undefined" for x/y rather than colno/rowno? 07:30 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2018-04-24 07:17 EDT: One thing I like about dNetHack's special levels/etc is the way dNetHack makes use of special-cased colors. Do you think it would be a good idea to be able to define custom tile strings in a .des file? For example, let's say I want a special level to use grass. Instead of creating a full-blown "grass" tile I could make floor and in a .des define the floor to be a "grass" tile for the tileset 07:30 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2018-04-24 07:18 EDT: parser to pickup 07:30 it's decompression that matters 07:30 -!- ais523 is now known as ais523_ 07:30 in that case lz4hc is fine 07:31 Back in an hour or so :) 07:31 * FIQ used Message Storm! It's not very effective... 07:31 LarienTelrunya, the problem is I went outside. I somehow got a job I like, a social life, and this weird thing called optimism. 07:31