00:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:30533 00:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helm of telepathy", on T:30538 00:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 gauntlets of power", on T:30541 00:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:30545 00:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30579 00:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:25722 00:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:42 [hdf-us] [nd] vergessen (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 3788 points, T:2959, killed by a gargoyle 00:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed wand of polymorph", on T:31526 00:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 00:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:31592 00:55 -!- dograt has quit [Quit: Quitting] 00:56 -!- dograt has joined #hardfought 01:07 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:32343 01:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:32387 01:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32571 01:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:32720 01:29 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:29 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 01:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:33275 01:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:41 Beholder: is there still hope for us? ;) 01:41 LarienTelrunya: Message from Elronnd at 2018-04-01 21:12 EDT: we should use this http://tengine.taobao.org/ 01:41 LarienTelrunya: Message from @rikersan at 2018-04-02 12:22 EDT: so how long is gehennom exactly in slex? I want to know how much longer tariru needs to keep doing this >_> 01:41 LarienTelrunya: Message from @rikersan at 2018-04-02 15:25 EDT: yasi: the shub-naguth black goat dude can spawn in soko, behind a door, asleep (reference to monty hall) 01:41 !tell rikersan the vibrating square is on 99, but Tariru will also need to find Vlad's Tower in Sheol somewhere 01:41 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:42 K2: morning! I got whereis working in the slex development version ♥ The new version is also close to completion, but it's not actually complete yet. 01:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33660 01:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Client Quit] 01:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:49 oh, Tariru lifesaved after about 100k turns? wondering what happened there 01:58 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:01 hmm, apparently Tariru died to a harrowbark fiend on level 72 of Gehennom while paralyzed; good thing he had life saving ;) 02:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 03:01 FIQ: so is your easy mode for FIQhack actually meant to stay? it isn't an april fools joke? 03:06 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:17 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v shpingrlde] by ChanServ 03:53 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:54 -!- deadnoob_ has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- deadnoob_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:38 <@Winsalot> At work rn but still planning my ascension. Can I use E-word in planes? 04:38 <@Winsalot> Also, why is it important to levitate in plane of fire? 04:39 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 04:50 @rld Lava everywhere. 04:50 Mandevil: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-04-01 14:00 EDT: we renewed the em.slashem.me certificates so your scoreboard should be able to parse it again :) 04:51 I mean @winsalot -- lava everywhere. 04:52 !tell LarienTelrunya Confirmed as working again. 04:52 Will do, Mandevil! 04:53 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 05:00 <@Winsalot> I mean, can't I just walk around that lava? Or jump over it with my jump spell? 05:02 hi Tariru! ouch, you had to lifesave at about the 100k turn mark? 05:02 LarienTelrunya: Message from Mandevil at 2018-04-03 04:52 EDT: Confirmed as working again. 05:06 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 05:16 Hi Amy 05:16 Was being careless, got paralysed in the middle of a group of monsters while dimmed as well. 05:17 I'll have to be careful, since I can't obtain free action in any way this game thanks to the RNG. 05:17 do you hopefully still have another amulet of life saving? 05:17 also, I see you made it to Sheol; there's going to be a yellow upstair to Vlad's tower in there somewhere 05:18 I've still got a few spare ones. 05:18 if you make it to Vlad, the best course of action is probably to instakill him so he can't levelport away, and the same is valid for Rodney 05:18 Can the upstairs be on any level in Sheol then? 05:18 yeah, and Sheol is 25 levels in length; the upstair can't be on the entrance level but it can be on any of the others 05:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:42 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:05 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:09 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:19 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Isis, on T:107479 06:28 -!- tubs has joined #hardfought 06:30 Bonjourno! 06:31 hi tubs! what is it that makes slex "overwhelming" to you and dnethack not? :D 06:32 ._. 06:32 Sorry I didn't mean it as an insult!!! 06:32 There are just so many options and things thrown at you from the start if that makes sense? 06:33 I absolutely love some of the features, like the ironman race! 06:34 haha, I didn't perceive it as an insult, I was just wondering ;) 06:34 I guess in something like dnethack there are far fewer new race/roles and the dungeon starts off pretty much identically (ignoring weird stuff like incatifier), so it feels more like "home" 06:35 I am going to try it now! 06:35 :) 06:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:35 I'm also working on the next version of slex, it's almost (but not quite) ready for the server 06:35 !who 06:35 tubs: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] 06:35 tubs: [hdf-eu] tubs [slex] elenmirie [xnh] 06:36 I wonder if I could make a patch for a build that only exposes some of the less weird race/roles, I dunno if I'm just diving in too deep too soon. 06:36 Ironic since I'm a diver! 06:37 argonian diver is already a rather sane combo, especially when compared to some really wacky ones like gelatinouscube kurwa that would be borderline unplayable :D 06:38 wtf you're on dungeon level 4 already? and it looks suspiciously like a bones level to me! 06:38 "23 silver arrows named l2N/1q@NW@Qg:.*isYI[?x`ru" is that... intentional? 06:38 Trap door! 06:38 those arrows are a fake artifact with a random garbage string as their name; they're probably highly enchanted, but not necessarily positively enchanted 06:39 Is perma red traffic light also "fake"? 06:40 yeah 06:40 oh no, a brain eater, I don't like it! 06:40 you probably have amnesia now, but at least it seems it didn't drain intelligence this time 06:41 Omg a tiny lich, that is so cute :D 06:43 Oh nice, it auto-removes cloaks to put on body armour? 06:43 well, kind of; it allows you to put on body armor even while wearing a cloak, but if the cloak happens to be cursed you won't be able to take the armor off again. 06:45 Ah ok 06:46 Is this level extra crazy? 06:47 seems like it; I don't really recognize it but it might be a maze with random water tiles strewn around 06:47 I assume it is bones, there are keystone kops creaming in my face ! 06:47 in order to kill the shaded lichen, you can try to use #force on it 06:49 That worked! 06:49 Thanks :) 06:49 now that I think about it, throwing the silver arrows would probably have worked too 06:51 I sell, big $$$! 06:52 What pushed me back? 06:52 staircases sometimes do that; it's an attempt to make the stairdancing strategy less effective 06:53 "polyself.c lists claws as a horse┬Æs manipulatory appendages" My codepage is for IBMgraphics if that explains it? 06:53 hmm in the source code it says Â’ 06:53 Latin-US DOS to be specific. 06:54 I should probably fix that 06:54 Am I correct in thinking eating at a table gives me the rumour? 06:54 haha, no, the rumors can just happen randomly when eating permafood 06:54 the table gives your attacks a +5 to-hit bonus while you stand on it 06:55 oh, don't worry too much about the nether mist, the amount of experience it drains is minimal if you only spend one turn on it 06:57 This lamp has stayed lit for an awfully long time 06:58 hopefully it's magic :) 06:59 fun fact: if you don't have legs, you can try to kick even while having damaged "legs" ;) 06:59 boo, it flickered. 06:59 aww 06:59 I wondered why it said "legs" in the status bar. 07:00 "freezing" is a rather bad enchantment to have on an item: it slows you down to half speed 07:02 I took 'em off! 07:03 good thing they weren't spawned cursed ;) 07:03 oh, you can also use #force on doors to remove them from your way 07:05 Ahh ok 07:10 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:10 -!- LarienTelrunya_ has joined #hardfought 07:10 * LarienTelrunya_ points at Internet Explorer, then curses. 07:11 :D 07:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:14 Now my terminal is completely broken, glyphs are not being removed 07:16 wow for a second I panicked there, because we had a serious issue with broken terminals earlier, but your issue isn't actually the terminal, it's only the game itself ;) 07:17 <[Demo]> heh 07:17 Oh you can see it too? 07:17 Hi [Demo]! 07:17 <[Demo]> hi 07:17 Hello [Demo], Welcome to #hardfought 07:17 you probably triggered a RMB loss trap, which means that certain dungeon features are no longer displayed, and moving over them will leave "trails" of your character 07:17 Yeah that's what happened. 07:17 the farlook command will also not work anymore now 07:17 What is an RMB? 07:17 <[Demo]> right mouse button 07:17 it means "right mouse button loss", even though the right mouse button isn't actually used in slex 07:18 this is because Castle of the Winds had a similar glitch, and there the right mouse button is the equivalent of Nethack's farlook command 07:18 tubs: I would half expect that slex actually has a bewitched lamp that stays lit indefinitely so you think it's a magic lamp, but if you try to rub it it bombards you with a swarm of hostiles. 07:18 aosdict: :D :D 07:18 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:19 LarienTelrunya_: can I heal myself? 07:19 tubs: if the effect indeed came from a trap, it will time out after a while; it can also come from certain cursed items though, in which case you need to take off the offending item 07:19 <[Demo]> hey amy how do i get the dungeon to rebuild? 07:20 <[Demo]> like i removed soko 2a but something somewhere still thinks it should exist for some reason and will try to load it half the games 07:20 did you update dungeon.def accordingly? 07:20 <[Demo]> dungeon.def specifies sub levels? 07:20 <[Demo]> like 3-1 and 3-2? 07:21 <[Demo]> err alternate levels 07:21 dungeon.def specifies how many variations of a specific level exist, yes 07:21 <[Demo]> oh yeah it has a 2 at the end 07:21 <[Demo]> oops 07:21 <[Demo]> thanks 07:21 yeah, that means there's soko3-1 and soko3-2 (or at least the game will expect those to exist) 07:22 omg someone is playing dnhslex on the other server, probably some poor fool who accidentally pressed the wrong button and wanted to play something else instead :P 07:22 <[Demo]> hmm weird 07:23 <[Demo]> its loading soko3-1 now and not soko3 07:23 yeah because it's probably still set to RNDLEVEL 07:23 Oh no I put on a jacket and now I am a rockstar. :( 07:23 tubs: uhh, was it a pair of enchanted red overknees or something? 07:23 <[Demo]> where is that set? 07:23 [Demo]: dungeon.def again 07:24 <[Demo]> oh yeah dng.dg 07:24 <[Demo]> oh 07:25 tubs: I guess you're still hallucinating because you also quaffed a potion of hallu :D 07:25 <[Demo]> haha sokoban doesnt like my secret doors 07:25 Cursed jacket, I can't get it off. 07:25 Yeah it was enchanted red overknees. 07:25 Wait where did they go? 07:25 those are basically boots of hallucination 07:25 well you somehow managed to take them off 07:25 normally they autocurse, maybe one of the things you use-tested was a scroll of remove curse? 07:26 make sure not to put them back on or they'll autocurse again :D 07:27 -!- LarienTelrunya_ is now known as LarienTelrunya 07:27 Homies is bummed :( 07:28 you probably got no roots for your homies :P 07:29 That was an adventure! 07:29 yay the hallu ended :) 07:29 But I still have the RMB trap effect which is somewhat annoying :( 07:30 <[Demo]> amy u might have some good ideas for this 07:30 <[Demo]> im replacing sokoban with radoban 07:30 <[Demo]> instead of being boring and dumb its radical and gnarly 07:30 yeah the rmb loss trap can last for quite a while, and if you wait it out you might just end up triggering it again because you're still in the general area where the trap is (it's invisible and doesn't reveal itself when triggered) 07:31 [Demo]: randoban? you mean randomly generated sokoban levels? 07:31 <[Demo]> no rad 07:31 <[Demo]> like radical 07:31 <[Demo]> like cool 07:31 <[Demo]> and not shit 07:31 oh 07:31 how so? 07:31 <[Demo]> explosions 07:31 <[Demo]> danger 07:31 <[Demo]> i dont know 07:32 rip :( 07:32 !lastgame 07:32 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/v/vergessen/nhdev/dumplog/1522726211.nhdev.txt 07:32 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tubs/slex/dumplog/1522751723.slex.txt 07:32 the rmb loss effect would have lasted for another 1246 turns 07:34 Ouch 07:34 [Demo]: hmm, I dunno, slexoban doesn't have extra explosions but it does have more danger than the usual soko ;) 07:35 Radical [Demo]? Like, free radicals??? That would be cool, highly charged spheres attracted to you wherever you go. EXPLODING! 07:36 <[Demo]> i want it to be like a stunt course 07:37 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2108 points, T:4873, killed by a jaguar 07:37 tubs: are you trying to get a specific hybrid race? I can help you with the syntax in case you want to put it in your options file so you don't have to use that awful menu ;) 07:38 e.g. OPTIONS=hybridspecialist for the one you currently picked 07:41 morning 07:41 is tubs going to try slex 07:41 good luck tubs 07:42 LarienTelrunya: I don't know what to do with it 07:42 But for now it stays 07:42 I see 07:42 If anything it needs to, to not make such existing games revert to normal 07:42 with crazy buffs 07:42 the challengers obviously make it so that you should try to ascend before they start spawning :P 07:43 heh 07:43 are the archons guaranteed to be hostile? if not, they'd probably be a non-issue for lawfuls 07:43 they're all guranteed to be hostile 07:44 LarienTelrunya: I was just trying stuff, but hopefully special levels will mean I don't just plough through them at max speed and die to stupid things (he says). 07:44 Also what is this evil plate and I have like -19ac now :s 07:44 heh, the level you're on is such a special level, named Khorminesend, it has four altars that you can convert 07:44 hahaha evil plate mail :D it autocurses and gives a random nasty trap effect when worn 07:44 Khormine send? :P 07:45 :D 07:45 it's called orc temple in my book :p 07:45 This level is mine's end from dnethack right? There's a cursed figurine of a balrog somewhere? 07:45 <[Demo]> i think it originated from un 07:45 no 07:45 it was khoR's mines end 07:46 it is in dNetHack, 4k, FIQHack and slex 07:46 not un 07:46 <[Demo]> what did khoR put it in? 07:46 <[Demo]> or did he just make it 07:46 he made it 07:46 <[Demo]> its a quality level 07:46 there was supposed to be a Khorhack variant once but it got abandoned :( 07:47 <[Demo]> did u harvest all the good levels? 07:47 sure :) 07:47 have you harvested the Gnomish Sewer yet 07:47 in fact, good levels is what slex needs for the next version to be complete 07:48 aosdict: it's on my to-do list, but it certainly won't have no squeezing spots, thank you very much :P 07:48 <[Demo]> id offer u radoban levels but they arent interesting 07:48 you can just nab it from current xnh, I removed them 07:48 it doesn't even have that... 07:48 <[Demo]> did u harvest my void levels? 07:48 oh it used to? 07:48 ok 07:48 <[Demo]> wait gnomish sewer 07:48 [Demo]: yes, they're in the Sheol branch, Tariru might in fact be on one of them right now 07:49 I mean, there still _are_ squeezing spots, but you don't need to use them in order to access every square. 07:49 Tariru has a spell called apply nail polish 07:49 And you should be able to get to any dry spot from any other dry spot. 07:49 aosdict: of course, if the walls are diggable, it's a non-issue in slex 07:50 <[Demo]> eh gnomish sewer looks like a lethe level 07:51 YASI for xnethack: the gnomish sewer is not obnoxious enough yet, clearly the water should be lethe water that gives amnesia and transforms your magical items into nonmagical ones (e.g. bag of holding -> sack) 07:51 LarienTelrunya: xnh won't let you fatfinger into water though 07:51 aosdict: Did you make the shallow water into deep water? 07:51 Because i could see how that creates squeeze spots... 07:52 [Demo]: ok, confirmed that Tariru is on your "Don't Die" level ;) 07:52 oh not anymore now 07:52 "Don't Die" level? 07:52 <[Demo]> which is that? 07:52 the one with all the snow and ice, I think it's Sheol:95 in your game 07:52 what is this liquid LarienTelrunya ? 07:52 <[Demo]> the alignment temple? 07:52 FIQ: crystal water I think, i.e. water that only affects you if you fly 07:52 ah 07:53 Who invented quinons and the like? I hates them! 07:53 FIQ: I'd have to have implemented shallow water, which I haven't yet done; so it's all deep. 07:53 <[Demo]> the one where tou start in the water and theres a temple of trees? 07:53 aosdict: yeah but you could have made it solid ground... 07:53 what, the whole level? 07:53 it is meant to be traversible after all 07:53 <[Demo]> yeah 95 isnt my lvel 07:53 [Demo]: one that originally had lava but I converted it to snow and ice 07:53 Most of the level is supposed to be shallow water, in jonadab's original proposal. 07:53 ah 07:54 <[Demo]> ohhh 07:54 well I don't think the original had squeeze spots 07:54 so :P 07:54 <[Demo]> my modified ranger middle level 07:54 slex dat/sheol.des shrnd-4 07:54 <[Demo]> to have lava and walls 07:54 <[Demo]> that was originally the wumpus cave 07:54 oh :D 07:54 FIQ: fwiw https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/blob/master/dat/mines.des#L1273 07:54 <[Demo]> god i hate that level 07:55 Is (of Team NastyTrap) a bad one? 07:55 Also, the original (https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Jonadab/Scratchpad#The_Gnomish_Sewer) did have squeeze spots, as well as two spaces buried in rock. 07:55 tubs: yep, it (like the evil plate mail) gives a random nasty effect when worn 07:56 I still can't see the effect of the plate mail, so I am guessing it is *really* bad. 07:56 there are 169 different "nasty" effects to choose from, not all of which are obvious ;) 07:56 Tariru has almost -70 AC... 07:56 for example, one makes it so that your wands randomly explode when zapped 07:57 <[Demo]> https://i.imgur.com/bxbKJHp.png how bullshit of a sokoban level is this? 07:57 [Demo]: uhh... are those trees and fire traps? :P 07:57 <[Demo]> and ice 07:57 <[Demo]> its a flaming stunt forest 07:57 <[Demo]> unnaturally 07:57 yeah I guess slex players would *really* bitch at me if I put that in the game 07:57 <[Demo]> inside the walls of radoban 07:58 Oops, I am a cannibal now :x 07:58 tubs: lol is that the astral plane? :P 07:58 <[Demo]> theres no boulders you need to push 07:58 Ogod... 07:59 FIQ: tubs is on the astral plane in slex :D 07:59 yes, but not the real one 07:59 <[Demo]> where is he playing this? 07:59 hdf-eu 07:59 <[Demo]> whats the domain name for that? 07:59 eu.hardfought.org 07:59 nethack@hardfought.eu 08:00 LarienTelrunya: wrong 08:00 well that's what you enter in putty to connect 08:00 it is not 08:00 <[Demo]> tried that before i asked and it didnt work 08:00 ugh... 08:00 nethack@eu.hardfought.org 08:00 sorry 08:01 told you 08:01 The wiki doesn't say the eu address! I actually joined this IRC to ask, and the channel topic told me \o. 08:01 K2: fix ^ 08:01 got too used to just having it saved in my putty, and forgot what it actually is! 08:01 <[Demo]> so whats wrong with my baptism of fire sokoban level? 08:02 [Demo]: well, fire traps suck, and you made it so that the player has to pass through at least two of them to get to the goal :P 08:02 four, actually 08:02 rip max HP unless resistant 08:02 <[Demo]> they are randomly placed 08:02 <[Demo]> could be more 08:02 a lot more than 2 08:02 in that pic at least 08:03 Ah shit, is a "specialist" considered human? 08:03 tubs: where on the wiki exactly? 08:04 LarienTelrunya: what does a H2G2 do 08:04 tubs: in the case of doubt, all @ that aren't obviously an elf are human. Also, all K are human, including the kestrel. 08:04 FIQ: huh? a what? 08:04 hitchhiker's guide to the galax 08:04 y 08:04 oh 08:04 it can be applied to confuse yourself, which is safer than casting a forgotten spell 08:04 ah 08:05 where on the wiki was tubs referring to? wrong hdf address 08:06 LarienTelrunya: I mean I'm argonian, so eating humans should be A-OK 08:06 But I forgot I was hybridised to specialiast 08:06 specialist 08:06 K2, ec. 08:07 sec 08:07 tubs: that doesn't matter, only the argonian race counts for that purpose, but they're still similar enough to humans that human flesh counts as same-race and therefore cannibalism 08:08 Buh ._. 08:08 (in reality this is just me being lazy, but many of slex's new races count as human for cannibalism purposes) 08:08 K2: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ on this page it only mentions the us server 08:13 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Alexia, on T:109384 08:14 ahhhhh 08:14 tubs thank you 08:14 EU server is fairly new. i've linked to it all over the wiki but not on my own website 08:14 awesome 08:14 fixing 08:15 i need to update a couple other bits on that page now that I am looking at it 08:15 No worries, I really really love being able to play on a public server with good ping <3 08:16 :) 08:16 * LarienTelrunya loves the hdf-eu server too ♥ 08:16 LarienTelrunya: so I used a standard id on a sword that said it was "The Onslaught" and it didn't say it wasn't, so is that a real artifact or another fake? :x 08:16 want great ping? come to my house. the hdf-us server is about 3m away from my desk 08:16 tubs: oh I guess you don't know about item information yet? hit the corresponding letter of an item in inventory view to get a description! :) 08:16 K2, east or west coast? :) 08:17 east coast. Vermont 08:17 Ah I did know that but forgot to do it! 08:17 Boo! I'm emigrating to Cali in a year (or whenever my visa comes through). 08:17 nice! where from? 08:17 Aha, this is not a real artifact# 08:19 it's a good idea to have several unicorn horns in slex, since they can break when used 08:20 and I would also advise against playing like a madman and especially against escaping out of messages, but that's up to you to decide 08:21 K2: Currently in the UK (London, alas). 08:22 LarienTelrunya: that's why I die so often .:( 08:22 ah, I see 08:22 To be fair I am using far look a whole lot more than I usually od!! 08:22 do 08:23 So I tend to esc only when there are monsters with regular phys attacks 08:23 I've seen a player who already had the amulet of Yendor in slex die because of that. He escaped past the messages telling him about a succubus taking off his stuff (including the source of reflection), and then something breathed disintegration. 08:24 Sounds familiar! 08:24 ...why is this a switch statement 08:24 Also the stupid low AC I have (I assume?) for this point in the game is making me a bit complacent... 08:24 two outcomes, testing one thing: is a number >= 3? 08:24 but nooo, someone had to write it as case 0: case 1: case 2: ... case 8: 08:25 aosdict: :D 08:25 tubs: what I also find really helpful is statuscolors. That allows you to have different colors for your HP display depending on how many you have left, in relation to your maximum. 08:26 I'll have to leave in a few minutes, but here's my config file in case you want to have a look: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/AmyBSOD.slexrc 08:27 Ah awesome, thanks muchly! :) 08:27 it has statuscolors and menucolors (the latter for highlighting cursed/blessed items and stuff that makes bags of holding explode) :) 08:27 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 22806 points, T:912, killed by a Keystone Kop 08:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:28 Also what was that level based on? 08:28 the one with trees and water and stuff? pleasant valley or something, created by jonadab 08:30 gotta leave now; good luck! in order to take off the chanter shirt, you need to remove the cloak and armor first (which will be a problem because the latter autocursed) 08:30 aosdict: seriously? 08:30 where? 08:30 that's gamefreak-level code 08:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:30 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.0/src/mkmap.c#L85 08:31 aosdict: That is possibly the greatest thing I have seen today! 08:31 it shouldn't even compile down into less code than an if statement woul 08:31 d 08:31 (it reminds me of a case where GF made a incredibly overcomplex function for the purpose of testing if a number is odd or even) 08:32 yep, that definitely seems like the kind of code GF did 08:32 in that regard 08:33 tubs: coming from the UK you should be ok getting a visa. but as I'm sure you're aware, our current adminsitration has made it very difficult for anyone to get a visa at the moment 08:34 aosdict: hmm but it excludes 3 and 4 08:34 I mean, the code is dumb either way 08:34 FIQ: right, that's leave-it-as-is code 08:34 but the if way would require several ifs 08:34 no more than two 08:34 oh wait yeah 08:35 if (x>=0 && x<=0): 1, else if (x>=5 && x<=8): 2; else 3 08:35 if (x>=0 && x<=2): 1, else if (x>=5 && x<=8): 2; else 3 08:35 that 08:35 you don't even need the x <= 8 constraint 08:36 count can't be 8 08:36 can it? 08:36 hmm 08:36 yeah it can 08:36 yes 08:36 all good then 08:37 so just if (x<=2): 1; else if (x>=5): 2; else 3 08:37 * aosdict nods 08:37 <[Demo]> time to special case some stupidity 08:37 aosdict: is that wallify code 08:37 FIQ: no, it's the cavern generation 08:37 ahh 08:37 cellular automaton 08:37 ok 08:38 K2: Aye, so we're applying for an H1B for this year (October) but if I don't win the lottery (heh), I'll be coming on an L1 in about a year. 08:40 <[Demo]> ur gonna escape europe? 08:40 Yeah, I'm brexiting brexit 08:40 <[Demo]> ah yes, the counterbrexit 08:40 <[Demo]> classic move 08:40 Mainly because I got a new job and part of the contract is moving to Cali. 08:41 FIQ: Still trying to figure out the purpose of pass_two. I suppose it is intended to close off common choke points. 08:41 <[Demo]> oh nevermind, california is probably worse than england 08:41 It is??? I thought it was the liberal jewel. :( 08:41 Other than Washington/Oregon of course. 08:42 a lot of the east coast is 'liberal' also 08:42 but as with anywhere, its a mix 08:42 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha) received Stormbringer from Huan Ti, on T:3801 08:43 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 42872 points, T:3943, killed by a kobold shaman's force bolt 08:43 rip 08:44 <[Demo]> california is expensive 08:44 aosdict: no idea, haven't ever read this code 08:44 at all 08:44 Yes, I'll be in Cupertino, I think that's slightly better than like SF at least (I hope). 08:44 tech central 08:44 yeah 08:45 <[Demo]> sounds expensive as hell 08:45 Hell is real cheap isn't it? 08:45 <[Demo]> costs ur soul 08:45 The Gehennom prices have never been higher, sadly. 08:45 <[Demo]> thats a bit of a price 08:46 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 08:48 Right, I have a horrible horrible hangover and no food, back in a jiffy! 08:48 <[Demo]> good luck 08:48 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:53 the variables "broom" and "croom" still make me giggle whenever I see them 08:54 is there a vroom too 08:54 yes, in the vault code 08:54 heh 08:55 <[Demo]> lol 09:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37143 09:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37144 09:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:20 <[Demo]> hmm how do i get my relative position within a branch? 09:21 Die and look at the epilogue?! 09:22 It's how I normally do it 09:23 <[Demo]> lokoban 09:36 Ah of course, the old invisible shopkeeper :( 09:45 [Demo]: look at lev->dlevel 09:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:55 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 09:55 -!- raisse is now known as Guest83389 09:57 -!- Guest83389 is now known as raisse 09:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:00 <@rikersan> . 10:00 @rikersan: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-04-03 01:41 EDT: the vibrating square is on 99, but Tariru will also need to find Vlad's Tower in Sheol somewhere 10:00 <@rikersan> !lastgame dnh 10:00 @rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1522683171.dnh.txt 10:00 @rikersan: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tubs/dnethack/dumplog/1522699449.dnh.txt 10:00 <@rikersan> aw, tubs you died? 10:00 rikersan please no :( 10:00 I died like 5 minutes after you left. 10:00 <@rikersan> :( 10:01 To an Ettin zombie in the crypt :'( 10:01 <@rikersan> RIP 10:08 Hah! Forced creation of a DL1 treasure zoo. It's all lldrxldrdrlxrdr 10:11 similar to sokozoo 10:11 in not-3.6.x 10:14 <@rikersan> eh, soko for me has mostly been lower h 10:14 <@rikersan> maybe some T 10:22 3.6 soko does that yeah 10:23 <@rikersan> nah, this is 3.4.3 10:28 !help 10:28 tubs: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 10:29 Can I make it dump the log for my current game? 10:29 <@rikersan> nope, dumplogs dno't exist except on death 10:29 <@rikersan> livelog is different but it's not as interesting 10:30 tubs: that would make cheating on identification pretty easy ;) 10:30 aosdict: obviously such a thing owuldn't ID your stuff for you 10:30 DCSS has this 10:33 Ah, it was because I got an error message, I've captured some of the log to pastebin *shrug* 10:34 !tell LarienTelrunya https://pastebin.com/QLpCaWza 10:34 Will do, tubs! 10:35 <@rikersan> tha'ts trap creation scroll, probably came out when the monster fell down the hole immediately (instead of on its turn) or someting 10:36 <@Winsalot> Almost home. Gonna continue my ascension real soon 10:36 <@rikersan> u got dis 10:37 <@Tone> Good luck 😄 10:42 ._. 10:42 I don't like that zappy wand of traps 10:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:45 Heh, the throne king monster in throne rooms is specifically given a mace as their "sceptre to pound in judgement". 10:46 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:46 -!- Menche_ has joined #hardfought 10:46 <@rikersan> YASI: that mace can be teh sceptre of might with the usual 1/20 chance 10:46 uh that would mess up the caveman quest a lot 10:46 <@rikersan> shush 10:46 Sceptre of Justice 10:47 <@rikersan> :D 10:47 Would it affect the quest that much? 10:47 Other than making it a bit easier 10:48 <@rikersan> well if you get hte QA before the quest 10:48 <@rikersan> that's a bit of an issue >_> 10:48 <@rikersan> it makes it much easier tho, year 10:48 <@rikersan> *yeah 10:48 You still need to get the bell 10:49 I mean, the game lets you _do_ it. 10:49 If you wish for your QA in wizard mode for instance. 10:50 You do get the "You need to return it to [questleader] immediately" questpgr text though. 10:51 <@rikersan> wizmode != normal mode 10:52 All I'm saying is it doesn't literally break the game. 10:52 <@rikersan> tha'ts true 10:52 <@Tone> It definitely breaks the quest's plot :P 11:05 -!- tubs has quit [Quit: *poof*] 11:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:27 Ugh. Again, who decided that rather than returning a coord like a *sane* programmer would do, you instead declare a static coord within the function and return a pointer to it? 11:51 <[Demo]> good luck 11:51 Now we find out... does Losesalot in fact win a lot? 11:52 <[Demo]> my pvp track record with him is pretty good 11:53 'Losesalot the Lama' 11:53 ^ approve 11:54 will he start hallucinating and become Losesalot the Llama? 11:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:6112 11:57 interesting. so that poly trap that turned me into a new orc didn't break self-poly 11:58 k2: how do you find the .eu dumplogs? 11:58 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/ 11:59 ah, i missed the eu. 11:59 there's a direct link to this on the website 11:59 thanks 11:59 np 12:00 geez, dumb question really. all i needed to do was scroll back to the last eu dumplog and look 12:01 nah 12:04 @Winsalot hasnt moved in a while 12:05 <[Demo]> hes waiting 12:05 <[Demo]> for an answer 12:05 maybe he's curled up in the fetal position and sobbing 12:05 <[Demo]> to which rider is the easiest 12:05 <[Demo]> and i have no idea if fiq changed them 12:05 <[Demo]> and i dont wanna give him bad info and have him die 12:05 <@Winsalot> lol, Im thinking to start with left one 12:05 <[Demo]> personally i dont wanna touch the situation with a 10 ft stick 12:05 <@Winsalot> cos no player monsters in that room 12:05 <[Demo]> if it was vanilla, i would say famine 12:06 <@Winsalot> but I heard pestilence is strong 12:06 <[Demo]> i have no idea how it works in fh, sorry 12:06 <[Demo]> just dont die 12:06 <[Demo]> and roll high 12:07 <@Winsalot> Also, should I equip conflict and kill that angel? 12:07 <@Winsalot> or just spam charm monster? 12:08 <[Demo]> im really glad money doesnt work like minutes 12:08 <@ahrimen> does the US have userdata dump logs? just tried us.hardfought.org/userdata and get a "this site can't be reached" 12:08 <[Demo]> like there arent only 60 dollars in 100 dollars 12:10 @ahrimen just hardfought.org 12:10 drop the us 12:10 @ahriman remove the us. 12:10 <@ahrimen> ahh thanks 12:11 @Winsalot - hard to say. sometimes the pet angel is useful, but have conflict ready to go if it dies or you get separated 12:11 unless FIQ changed how conflict works... 12:12 <[Demo]> probably did 12:13 <@mtf> k2: I've never really found that angel useful heh 12:14 <@mtf> I think FIQ plans on nerfing conflict, but I don't believe he has yet 12:14 yeah 12:14 on the angel bit 12:14 sometimes they are worth it 12:14 but they usually die by the time you reach your first altar 12:15 <@mtf> yea exactly 12:15 <@mtf> I haven't really found that worth it given that all the monsters will focus their attacks on you when you don't have conflict 12:15 <@mtf> I find damage spikes a lot more without 12:15 <@mtf> it 12:16 <@mtf> @Winsalot yea I'd totally hit death first given your predicament... even though it's on the other side of astral, you don't want to get surrounded by pesti and famine 12:17 <@Winsalot> btw mtf, on your archeologist win you didnt use conflict in astral 12:17 screw it. run naked through astral 12:17 be freeeeeee 12:17 <@mtf> @Winsalot did I not? could have sworn I did 12:17 <@Winsalot> Im watching your stream rn 12:17 <@mtf> I don't think I entered with conflict 12:17 <@mtf> but I'm pretty sure I swap it on 12:17 <@mtf> am I just totally wrong? lol 12:18 <@Winsalot> nope, you were totally not wearing it lol 12:18 <@mtf> oh my god 12:18 <@mtf> your'e right 12:18 <@mtf> I totally forgot to put it back on 12:18 <@mtf> LOL 12:19 <@Winsalot> where is FIQ? 12:19 <@mtf> well that explains why I was taking so much damage 12:19 <@Winsalot> need his advice on this 12:19 <@mtf> lol probably sleeping? not sure what time it is over there 12:19 <@Winsalot> is he from US? 12:19 <@mtf> nah 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] Dixie (Blue) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 27328 points, T:1616, killed by a water demon, while sleeping 12:19 no he's swiss 12:19 <@mtf> sweden? or something 12:19 <@mtf> switzerland 12:19 <@mtf> there ya go 12:19 so its only 5-6pm where he's at 12:19 maybe 7 12:19 i dunno but its not late 12:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:20 <@mtf> yea but he's a college student 12:20 <@mtf> you know how they have weird sleep schedules 12:20 <@Winsalot> I know cos I'm one 12:20 <@Winsalot> 😃 12:20 <@mtf> 😛 12:20 <@Winsalot> but I usually wake up before 3pm 12:26 <@mtf> man that's a funny mistake 12:26 <@mtf> I don't think I've ever done astral without conflict before 12:26 <@mtf> like, entirely that is 12:27 <[Demo]> i have because ive played variants that dont require it like fiqhack does 12:27 i almost never use conflict on astral 12:27 <[Demo]> AT_HUG AD_FIRE 12:27 <[Demo]> some message about roasting something something 12:27 <@mtf> I wouldn't say FH requires conflict any more than vanilla 12:27 with fh you spam charm monster not conflict 12:27 <@mtf> but I've never done vanilla astral without conflict either xD 12:27 try it sometime 12:28 i prefer purple army 12:28 <@mtf> well apparently I did, in my Arc win 12:28 <@mtf> I took a beating 12:28 <@mtf> but got lucky that my first choices was the high altar I needed 12:28 <@mtf> It's just funny cause I thought I had conflict on the whole time 12:28 <[Demo]> dnh astral rn you can just warp to door of altar room 12:31 <@Winsalot> fuuuck 12:32 <[Demo]> dont died 12:32 <[Demo]> thats ur advice 12:33 @mtf FIQ is Swedish, not Swiss. 12:33 <@mtf> lol 12:33 Ljungdahl is not a swiss name 12:33 <@mtf> so it was my first guess! 12:34 I suppse I should be correcting K2. 12:34 <@mtf> @Winsalot FUCK me I was in farlook mode the whole time, didn't realize you were playing 12:34 <@mtf> hahaha 12:34 correcting? 12:34 what did I get wrong aosdict? 12:34 oh 12:35 <@mtf> @Winsalot what's your wand skill? expert tele wands can teleport monsters on astral, it's a huge benefit 12:35 swiss/swedish - same thing 12:35 ^^ FIQ :P 12:35 <@mtf> you can reach expert if you bless a tele wand and use it when you are skilled in wands 12:35 <@Winsalot> I have only 2 tele wands 12:35 <@Winsalot> on expert skill ofc 12:36 <[Demo]> both of them are places in europe that would probably be fun to visit and both have cold light people 12:36 so teleport stuff out of your way, except don't point it at a rider 12:37 <@mtf> @Winsalot yea expert tele wand is IMO the most powerful tool in astral... so much so that I've asked fiq to nerf them several times 😛 12:38 actually in fh the most powerful tool on astral is a magic harp ;) 12:38 <@Winsalot> fuck, wrong alter 12:39 <@mtf> hot: magic harp? oh, for taming? haha... I haven't ever tried that, that's a great idea 12:39 <@mtf> @Winsalot yup, can't be right the first time every time... I'd try middle next 12:46 <@Tone> All you need for Astral in vanilla is to save a wish for a rubber chicken 12:47 HP:[ 11 / 139 ] 12:50 <[Demo]> haha fiq u done fiqd up the astral plane 12:50 what did I do 12:50 @Winsalot if you have spare death charges, zap north or south 12:50 if surrounded 12:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:50 it means you'll create an explosion centered on yourself 12:51 killing things nearby 12:51 <@Winsalot> I know 12:51 ahh ok 12:51 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Pride, on T:112785 12:52 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Pride, on T:112815 12:53 <[Demo]> oh wow tariru made it to the vibrating square 12:53 <@mtf> @Winsalot oh god 12:53 <@Winsalot> its fine, I have life saving 12:53 <@mtf> oh good 12:53 <@Winsalot> and then another one life saving 12:53 remember to put it on 12:53 unlike some :p 12:54 <[Demo]> yeah, dont be like demobt 12:54 <[Demo]> dmeobot 12:54 <@Winsalot> 😃 12:54 <[Demo]> fucking hell 12:54 * FIQ gives [Demo] an uncursed keyboard 12:54 <@mtf> @Winsalot got any death? this is the perfect opportunity for it 12:54 <[Demo]> that stupid motherfucking bot that i cant type the name of that couldnt figure out how to put on another of its dozen or so aols it had half the time 12:54 <@Winsalot> whitch way should I zap death? 12:54 <@mtf> right 12:54 north 12:54 or south 12:54 kill everything next to you 12:54 <@mtf> kill that whole corridor 12:55 <@mtf> then move over one, and aim it up 12:55 death loves to miss so I generally don't like that 12:55 <@mtf> you'll kill both riders 12:55 but meh :P 12:55 <@Winsalot> northeast? 12:55 (explosions never miss) 12:55 <@mtf> I'd say death east, move one east, and then death north 12:55 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Wrath, on T:112891 12:55 <@mtf> oh yea, FIQ wants you to use reflection to explode yourself 12:55 <@mtf> hey perfect 12:55 @mtf he is at least skilled 12:56 the death ray will explode anyway 12:56 <@mtf> oh, neat 12:56 did someone cast cone of cold 12:56 lol 12:56 ah no 12:56 the dragon did that 12:56 <@Winsalot> btw, does conflict affect riders? 12:56 no 12:56 <@mtf> no 12:56 zap death right 12:56 or left 12:56 kill that rider 12:57 yeah like that 12:57 <@mtf> perfect 12:57 <@mtf> now you can tele those A's out of the way 12:57 lol confused create monster 12:57 <@mtf> good man 12:57 <@mtf> acid blobs! 12:57 <@mtf> xD 12:57 if you go north, you'll meet certain death 12:57 not sure if staying is better though... no progress that way 12:57 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Lust, on T:112950 12:58 oh huh, maybe not 12:58 <@Winsalot> why? 12:58 <@mtf> he's pretty fast 12:58 ah 12:58 free turn I guess 12:58 @Winsalot you was walking right into the Rider 12:58 <@mtf> @Winsalot he thinks pesti will murder you 12:58 I'd zap death right 12:58 <@mtf> how m much more death do you have? 12:58 <@Winsalot> ok, I guess now it's time to jump 12:58 maybe that is just me 12:58 <@Winsalot> 2 more death charges 12:58 oh wow you can jump 12:59 yeah do that 12:59 <@mtf> jumping is great 12:59 can jump 3 steps straight 12:59 but w/e 12:59 <@Winsalot> oh, didnt know that 12:59 <@mtf> lol 14k pw for charging 12:59 <@Winsalot> how many turns does jump take? 12:59 <@mtf> who in their right mind can even cast that 12:59 <@mtf> @Winsalot jsut one 13:00 <@mtf> It's extremely good for mobility 13:00 but it always ends the turn 13:00 <@mtf> if you move one more north, you can probably jump over that acid blob 13:00 <@mtf> oh nvm 13:00 go northwest 13:00 <@mtf> 1 hp 13:00 <@mtf> never seen that message 13:00 to avoid another zap for a turn 13:00 <@Winsalot> wtf 13:00 <@mtf> nw and then ne 13:00 yeah 13:00 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Gluttony, on T:113037 13:01 <@Winsalot> did I just survive with 1 hp? 13:01 <@mtf> yes 13:01 <@mtf> lol 13:01 was the 1st altar lawful 13:01 inb4 neutral 13:01 can't even OA away the problem :P 13:01 <@Winsalot> lawful 13:01 <@Winsalot> OA? 13:01 opposite alignment 13:01 <@mtf> opposite alingment 13:01 a way to cheese astral 13:01 I have a plan for how to fix that 13:01 haven't bothered yet though 13:01 <@mtf> neutral! 13:01 <@Winsalot> fuuuuuck 13:01 <[Demo]> ow 13:02 ouch 13:02 <@mtf> oof 13:02 so right altar it is 13:02 meh you haven't even used up an LS yet 13:02 no full healing potions? 13:02 allthough 3rd altar is usually hardest due to teleportations... 13:02 <@mtf> yea @Winsalot you got this man 13:02 priests are the main summoners, and you killed plenty 13:03 so there'll be less CM spam at lteast 13:03 *least 13:03 <@Winsalot> can I manfight famine? 13:03 <@mtf> it's not recommended 13:04 <@mtf> he's probably the middle difficulty of the riders 13:04 <@mtf> with pesti being the worst IMO 13:04 Riders that aren't Death stunlock 13:04 we hates pesti 13:04 <@Winsalot> omfg 13:04 <@mtf> they do??? 13:04 it can be really dangerous 13:04 to melee 13:04 @mtf if 1st attack hits 13:04 <@mtf> FIQ: is that a fiqhack thing? 13:04 2nd will, instead of sicken/reduce hunger, stun instead 13:04 no it's vanilla 13:05 it's like half of the reason that non-Death riders are as dangerous as they are 13:05 otherwise Famine wouldn't be all that bad besides hitting hard 13:05 <@mtf> don't think I"ve ever been stunlocked... 13:05 <@Winsalot> so what do I do? 13:05 <@Winsalot> death that fucker? 13:05 <@mtf> with -40AC it must not be common 13:05 no charging? 13:05 <@mtf> I would, yea 13:05 <@Winsalot> nope 13:05 @mtf yeah I generally don't go in with that high HP 13:05 @Winsalot no markers? wishes? 13:05 <@Winsalot> nope 😦 13:06 er 13:06 *high AC 13:06 <@mtf> well, @Winsalot 13:06 -40AC is overkill IMO 13:06 <@mtf> you have two death shots left 13:06 <@mtf> that's enough to kill both riders in your way 13:06 <@mtf> if they don't miss, that is 13:06 yeah 13:06 and they will miss 13:06 <@mtf> if you can make it past the bottom right rider then you should be ok 13:06 that's just what they do 13:06 I hate deathzapping riders 13:06 really unrealible 13:07 <@mtf> honestly as a melee lover I usually just beat the shit out of everything except pesti 13:07 allthough Winsalot have 23 dx 13:07 <@mtf> but pseti is scary 13:07 so it might work out 13:07 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Sloth, on T:113238 13:07 <@mtf> pesti* 13:07 <@Winsalot> dx? 13:07 dexterity 13:07 <@mtf> dexterity 13:07 <@Winsalot> I also have magic missle 13:07 <@Winsalot> spell 13:07 <@Winsalot> I heard its pretty strong 13:07 how'd you get all HP 13:07 did you die 13:07 yeah you did 13:07 ...you have Fire Brand 13:07 that's the strongest weapon on astral 13:08 almost nothing is fire resistant 13:08 Riders being hte main exception 13:08 *the 13:08 <@Winsalot> well, I got it after I upgraded my stormy 13:08 ah 13:08 <@Winsalot> carry it in case of someone whipping me 13:08 either way you need to get going, you can't linger on astral 13:08 due to the Amulet's aggravate monster 13:09 @Winsalot is that Pestilence? 13:09 <@mtf> I think that's famine 13:09 can you slow it 13:09 <@Winsalot> famine 13:09 if you don't get stunlocked, might want to jump to the doorway and zap death <-> 13:10 <@Winsalot> no charges on slow 13:10 guranteeing that he dies 13:10 hmm nvm then 13:10 Winsalot died? 13:10 no 13:10 <@Winsalot> not yet 13:10 I meant used up an LS 13:11 <@Winsalot> could I use up LS on famine? 13:11 <@Winsalot> or is it a waste? 13:11 yes, it is very much a waste 13:11 you only have one left 13:11 and you will meet other Riders 13:11 on the way to the 3rd altar 13:12 actually 13:12 go northeast 13:12 er 13:12 northwest 13:12 dang, 0 for 2? 13:12 aosdict: yeah 13:12 @Winsalot go northwest and zap death <-> to gurantee kill 13:12 <@Winsalot> ho 13:12 <@Winsalot> I could go 1 left 13:12 is my recommendation 13:12 <@Winsalot> then jump 13:12 you mean right 13:12 <@mtf> I'd just smash that dude 13:13 <@Winsalot> yeah, I mean right lol 13:13 he will just follow and block your jumåp 13:13 *jump 13:13 <@Winsalot> Im faster 13:13 eh just try to smash him 13:13 <@Winsalot> This could work if I get free turn 13:13 riders have abnormally low HP 13:13 <@Winsalot> no? 13:13 <@mtf> yea I'd just beat him to death 13:14 stethoscope him if you can 13:14 <@mtf> if you get low on food just jump away and eat something that takes one turn 13:14 <@Winsalot> brb, going to toilet 13:14 maybe my tweaks to HP growth on monsters 13:14 increased rider HP 13:14 i thought your riders had a lot of hp, imr 13:15 hothraxxa: Before HP growth, it was just vanilla level 13:15 After, it might have increased 13:15 <@Winsalot> How far can I jump diagonally? 13:15 swell somebody has riders like death with hp:123 13:16 you can jump 2 directions everywhere 13:16 except for straight up, down, left or right 13:16 where you can jump 3 tiles 13:16 assuming unskilled 13:17 something is polymorphing the blobs into potential actual danger 13:17 heh 13:17 <@Winsalot> lul 13:17 interesting strategy 13:17 <@Winsalot> 9000 IQ AI 13:17 <@Winsalot> btw, how does stethoscope work? 13:17 yay for emergent behaviour 13:17 just apply it 13:17 into a direction of your choice 13:17 <@Winsalot> i know 13:17 if blessed it is a free action 13:18 <@Winsalot> but is it free in terms of turns? 13:18 if uncursed the 1st use per action is free 13:18 <@Winsalot> ok 13:18 <@Winsalot> fucking 169 hp rider 13:18 <@Winsalot> omfg 13:18 yeah that is definitely a buff 13:18 sorry 13:18 in terms of player/monster symmetry, it's not fair almost all monsters gang up on me but not each other 13:18 that is new then 13:19 hothraxxa: hah 13:19 hothraxxa: I've considered more mvm fighting 13:19 <@mtf> yeesh 13:20 ruh roh 13:20 added to wiki 13:20 the rider HP change that is 13:20 well that'll fix it 13:20 zap death north I think 13:20 not sure 13:20 <@Winsalot> I guess it's time to death southwest 13:20 <@mtf> how much more tele do you ahve 13:20 <@mtf> tele > death IMO 13:20 <@Winsalot> 2 more tele 13:20 <@mtf> hmmm 13:20 <@Winsalot> I have death at master level 13:21 <@Winsalot> it makes 2-6 explosions I think 13:21 that is why I keep suggesting death explosiosn 13:21 :P 13:21 *explosions 13:21 but they're unrealible in places like this 13:21 <@mtf> could give it a shot I guess 13:21 depends where the ray ends 13:21 <@mtf> better to save tele for the right half if you can 13:21 boom 13:21 <@mtf> lol, perfect 13:21 <@Winsalot> phew 13:21 <@mtf> now get over there! 13:22 most of these monsters don't really hit hard 13:22 so just mow then down 13:22 <@mtf> 44hp, just beat the fucka down 13:22 that yellow A is a ki-rin btw 13:22 might have some dangerous spells 13:23 <@mtf> that titan is a problem 13:23 is it really 13:23 he should be able to outrun the titan 13:23 so unless it has summon nasties it shouldn't be a problem 13:23 <@mtf> true, but the A blocking him currently puts him directly next to the titant 13:24 btw 13:24 As resist death in FIQHack 13:24 thought you'd want to know 13:24 <@Winsalot> I will make diagonal jump now 13:24 yes 13:24 <@mtf> seems fine, yea 13:24 do 13:24 <@Winsalot> But should I jump to the corridor or to door? 13:24 <@Winsalot> corridor and then teleport? 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38433 13:24 <@mtf> corridor 13:24 <@mtf> tele is very powerful in corridors 13:24 <@mtf> and minimizes the number of enemies around you 13:25 as long as there's no rider 13:25 or rider corpse 13:25 telezap 13:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38443 13:25 <@mtf> oh shit, rider coprse... yea where is the other rider 13:25 <@mtf> well, not there 13:25 <@mtf> thank god 13:25 again 13:25 <@mtf> lol 13:25 <@Winsalot> omfg 13:25 @mtf at the door 13:25 like 13:25 <@mtf> oh ok 13:25 in the doorway 13:25 i am embarrassed how many times i've teleported a rider corpse 13:26 zap tele right and then just run 13:26 <@Winsalot> another teleport? 13:26 use jumping too 13:26 <@mtf> you are ok wins 13:26 <@mtf> yes, use another tele 13:26 should be able to get away from this trouble 13:26 then just deal with the priests in the right bigger room 13:26 just whack the A and N to death 13:26 <@mtf> gonna have to beat them both down I think 13:27 <@mtf> but it should be ok 13:27 <@mtf> you have a lot of spaces between you and that other rider 13:27 <@mtf> and a captain coming up behind lol 13:27 <@Winsalot> can I sleep that captain to block the corridor? 13:27 <@mtf> no 13:27 it's better for the captain to be next to him 13:27 <@mtf> riders can move through other monsters 13:27 because that Rider is respawning soon 13:27 <@mtf> and the capitain is good defense basically 13:27 and a captain in melee is better than a rider 13:27 <@mtf> ^ 13:27 <@mtf> right 13:27 <@Winsalot> can riders move through sleeping monsters though? 13:27 <@mtf> FIQ I think you misunderstood me, that was my entire point haha 13:28 <@mtf> @Winsalot yes 13:28 riders *can't* displace monsters no 13:28 I've considered adding it 13:28 but haven't yet 13:28 <@mtf> huh? 13:28 <@mtf> I thought they could 13:28 not in 3.4.3 13:28 and thus fiqhack 13:28 <@mtf> can displace other monsters. on the wiki 13:28 <@mtf> oh 13:28 <@mtf> hmm 13:28 <@mtf> yes you should totally add it 13:28 mtf: that's a 3.6 thing 13:28 <@mtf> that's a really good 3.6 change then 13:28 the wiki should note that it is a 3.6 feature 13:29 i thought it did 13:29 <@mtf> @Winsalot almost there!!! 13:30 you've got this 13:30 <@mtf> totally got this 13:30 don't let too many priests get in melee 13:30 <@kritixilithos> !whereis Winsalot 13:30 @kritixilithos: [hdf-us] Winsalot is not currently playing on this server. 13:30 they can hit hard 13:30 @kritixilithos: [hdf-eu] winsalot [fh]: (Pri Hum Mal Cha) T:46275 The Elemental Planes level: -5 (with Amulet) 13:30 <@kritixilithos> ooh nice 13:30 <@mtf> stormy is gonna be better than wands of fire, right? 13:30 just telezap 13:31 yes 13:31 <@mtf> or yea, tele 13:31 since he can't really create proper explosiosn here 13:31 Beholder feature request: If they're only playing on one server, don't report the one they're not playing on. 13:31 unless it's blessed 13:31 if it's blessed, wand > sword 13:31 but tele is bewst 13:31 *best 13:31 <@Winsalot> would death zap create explosion here? 13:31 <@Winsalot> I have 1 left 😃 13:31 <@mtf> I would NOT death here 13:32 <@mtf> if you hit the high priest 13:32 <@mtf> things are going to be bad 13:32 yes, if it hits, but it would be useless 13:32 <@mtf> not to mention A's resist death 13:32 it will not work on the As 13:32 <@Winsalot> good point 13:32 <@mtf> just smash 13:32 <@mtf> 😛 13:32 jump 13:32 As are ok in melee 13:33 <@mtf> epic 13:33 <@mtf> one more jump! 13:33 yeah there isn't any real threat here 13:33 you're all good 13:33 uh-oh 13:33 <@mtf> LOL 13:33 that was probably a Rodney harassment 13:33 amazing timer 13:33 <@mtf> now might not be a bad time for death 13:33 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:33 *timing 13:34 <[Demo]> if u die im gonna be sad 13:34 <@mtf> high priest is far away 13:34 <@mtf> and you're surrounded by guys that die to death 13:34 needs to hit 13:34 <@mtf> maybe just zap it south? 13:34 66yeah 13:34 think so 13:34 -66 13:34 <@Winsalot> gigh priest is litteraly one square away 13:34 hm. sounds like somebody went to the astral plane without a horn 13:34 the high priest will probably die 13:35 but that should just piss off your god, no? 13:35 @mtf 13:35 why would that matter? 13:35 <[Demo]> get the ogre out of the way so u can jump 13:35 and it isn't really a problem here 13:35 <@Winsalot> so its fine if high priest dies? 13:35 <@mtf> FIQ: I was more worried that he'd resist and beat the shit out of wins 13:35 pretty sure yes 13:35 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 13:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Mandevil] by ChanServ 13:35 <@mtf> I almost died to one before on the altar lol 13:35 @mtf ahh 13:35 well you might get zapped by your god 13:35 uh-oh 13:35 good point 13:35 92 HP 13:35 <@kritixilithos> hothraxxa: why horn? 13:35 <[Demo]> to scare 13:35 @mtf but only 25% of high priests have CoMR 13:35 <@mtf> WAIT 13:35 the rest just... die 13:35 improvise on a horn to scare things 13:36 <@mtf> @Winsalot do you have scare monster? 13:36 <[Demo]> why cant he death ray the ogre lord? 13:36 <@Winsalot> nope 😃 13:36 <@mtf> bah 13:36 scare monster will only work on the ogre 13:36 not the other things here 13:36 this ain't no 3.6 13:36 <@mtf> I think death south may miss the high priest, and will hopefully hit the most non-resistant guys 13:36 <@mtf> that's what I'd do 13:36 yeah 13:36 <@mtf> FIQ: SM doesn't work on the yendorian army? 13:36 think that is the best tactic 13:36 @mtf no? 13:36 <@Winsalot> maybe just fuck it death right? 13:36 SM scares the same things as E 13:36 <@Winsalot> and then jump 13:36 omg you're so close 13:37 you got this 13:37 <@mtf> @Winsalot that's what we're thinking... death to the south and hope it clears enough 13:37 See, in vanilla you'd be totally clear already - it's your own high temple so you would have sanctuary 13:37 aosdict: same in FIQhack 13:37 the fact that sanctuary isn't working 13:37 means he's at negative alignment 13:37 *FIQHack 13:37 oh fh alignment, fuck 13:38 <@Winsalot> is priest really that bad? 13:38 <@mtf> high priests hit hard 13:38 @Winsalot just zap south 13:38 <@Winsalot> I mean I have killed the priest in gnomish mines once 13:38 <@mtf> not regular priests though 13:38 best strategy 13:38 if he does become hostile 13:38 teleport him away 13:38 or something 13:38 <@mtf> @Winsalot high priests are completely different than priests in the dungeon 13:38 high priests also has summon nasties 13:38 <@mtf> FIQ: if he had any more tele this would be easy as hell 13:38 which that priest will almost certainly use 13:38 <@mtf> but I think he's out 13:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:39 <@mtf> this is why I bring 10 tele wands with me to the planes 13:39 <[Demo]> he just needs to make a run for burning up that amulet 13:39 <@Winsalot> I had like 5 tele wands 13:39 <[Demo]> yeah he came in pretty unprepared but whatever 13:39 <@Winsalot> used 3 in plane of air 😃 13:39 FIQ: How do I change to ASCII graphics in watchmode 13:39 <@kritixilithos> what spells do you have? 13:39 <[Demo]> should have had a hoa 13:39 aosdict: same as normally 13:39 options -> interface options -> tileset 13:39 (near the bottom) 13:39 * aosdict was expecting s to work 13:39 you need to be logged in 13:40 this is enhanced watchmode 13:40 oh for the love of 13:40 it's just a regular FIQHack instance 13:40 but in readonly 13:40 bleh not worth it 13:40 sorry 13:40 it's not like @Winsalot is far from the end anyway 13:40 <@mtf> YESSS 13:40 <[Demo]> jump for it 13:40 <@mtf> JUMP!!!! 13:40 high priest down? 13:40 <[Demo]> yes 13:41 <@mtf> yup 13:41 @mtf see, only 25% of high priests have CoMR 13:41 <@Winsalot> priest ded 13:41 <@mtf> FIQ: 25% is pretty high in my book! 13:41 <@mtf> @Winsalot jump jump jump! 13:41 if he did have CoMR 13:41 he would have been pissed 13:41 now 13:41 <@Winsalot> wtf is Comr 13:41 cloak of magic resistance 13:41 <@kritixilithos> cloak of magic resistance 13:41 <@mtf> cloak of magic resistance 13:41 <@Winsalot> oh 13:41 <@mtf> jinx 13:41 yes, let us all say it 13:41 :P 13:41 grats 13:41 <@mtf> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG 13:42 <@kritixilithos> noice 13:42 <[Demo]> epic 13:42 <@Winsalot> yahooooooo 13:42 woooo! 13:42 felicitations 13:42 the fact that enhanced watchmode kicks you out when the game ends is kinda disappointing 13:42 <[Demo]> yeah it is 13:42 maybe I should do something about that :P 13:42 <@mtf> @Winsalot epic win dude 13:42 yeah FIQ :P 13:42 <@mtf> FIQ: I completely agree 13:42 great job @Winsalot 13:42 <@mtf> the first full-astral-circuit is so nerve wracking 13:43 <[Demo]> pretty funny 13:43 this was @Winsalot 's first asc I think 13:43 or first fh at least 13:43 <@Winsalot> yeap, first ever asc 13:43 <@mtf> wow no shit 13:43 <@Winsalot> Before that I haven't even done quest 13:43 <@kritixilithos> well done 13:43 heh yours was much more mean than mine 13:43 <@kritixilithos> haha 13:43 <@Winsalot> thanks for help and effort guys 13:43 I was ridiculously lucky and also got 1st altar 13:43 <@mtf> yea dude no kidding, the game put you through the wringer for your first 13:43 :P 13:43 <@Winsalot> ascension run was ez 13:43 good job 13:44 yeah ascension run is just a victory lap 13:44 and a breather before the end 13:44 <@Winsalot> didnt meet rodney outside of gehnomm 13:44 <@mtf> that rodney spawn though 13:44 <@mtf> at the end 13:44 <@mtf> hilarious 13:44 couldn't have been better timing 13:44 <@Tone> grats @Winsalot 😄 13:44 if he tried 13:44 <@mtf> hahah 13:45 you hear a popping sound. the winsalot's cherry explodes! you are covered in maraschino 13:45 <@mtf> and that last death explosion was perfect 13:45 <@mtf> killed everything around him 13:45 <@mtf> hoth: ewwww lol 13:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Depression, on T:114176 13:45 an epic first winsalot. congratulations 13:46 the next one will be easier 13:46 http://home.fiq.se/end.png 13:46 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:114180 13:47 <@mtf> with that, I have to get some food 13:47 <@mtf> was a fun watch though 😄 13:47 <@Winsalot> Yeah, feels like a real achievment 13:48 <@Winsalot> also I'm number 2 on eu-hardfought highscores 13:48 <@Winsalot> Time to start working on my YAFAP on reddit 😃 13:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38909 14:00 -!- jared55 has joined #hardfought 14:02 let's see if I can look at Winsalot's planes run without replaymode exploding 14:02 it has a few bugs 14:02 but sometimes work just fine 14:02 <@mtf> FIQ: why would replay mode explode? game engine updates during the run?" 14:03 yes 14:03 <@mtf> how do you even account for that 14:03 and FIQHack's replaymode, while much faster than NH4's and actually usable, does NOT like that 14:03 I have measures in place 14:03 but they're a bit buggy 14:03 @mtf falling back to diffs 14:03 but diffs aren't the best... they skip over a lot 14:04 multiturn actions for example is only recorded as a single diff 14:04 in NH4, this is the standard mode of operation in replaymode 14:04 <@mtf> interesting... so does that mean the FH executable keeps track of all the diffs along the way? 14:04 it is also really slow 14:04 <@mtf> oh, nvm 14:04 <@mtf> differen't kind of diff 14:04 NH4's replaymode has several issues 14:05 FIQHack replaymode has a totally different set of issues 14:05 mostly just bugs 14:05 NH4's is just... limited, and slow 14:05 but not really buggy 14:05 <@mtf> right 14:05 <@mtf> I like your modifications a lot 14:05 compare FH and NH4 replaymode 14:05 FH has a tendency to return weird errors a bunch due to bugs in the process 14:06 and sometimese just crash 14:06 but when it works 14:06 it works much better than NH4's 14:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39770 14:06 there was a point 14:07 where FIQHack's replaymode was pretty much flawless 14:07 bug-wise 14:07 but it had serious issues with old games 14:07 because it had no desync handling at all 14:07 (well it did, but very rudimentary) 14:07 for example, an ascension I was testing 14:07 would in replaymode get stuck on plane of air 14:07 doing nonsensical stuff 14:08 because the way I was detecting desyncs didn't catch most of them 14:08 <@mtf> weird 14:08 well basicall 14:08 y 14:08 back then, my means of detecting desyncs 14:08 was the same as NH4's 14:08 meaning only when an invalid command was entered 14:08 <@mtf> honestly the fact that you have backwards compatibility at all is very impressive 14:09 thing is, a lot of commands are still valid 14:09 just that they... don't really do the right thing 14:09 in newer engines 14:09 <@mtf> heh 14:09 NH4 solves this by forcing a diff apply 14:09 after each action 14:09 this is the main reason as to why it's so slow 14:09 I attempted the same in FIQHack with a ton of checkpointing 14:10 (much more than NH4's general in-file checkpoints) 14:10 but it was still unusably slow 14:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40329 14:10 so I instead adopted for a different means of detecting desyncs 14:10 but I never got this to work fully before I put it on the backburner 14:11 and it sometimes procs even when there shouldn't be any desyncs going on 14:11 this is why FIQHack's replaymode nowdays sometimes throws weird errors 14:11 <@mtf> makes sense 14:11 especially in older games 14:11 <@mtf> I imagine the kinks in such a system are hard to iron out 14:11 well my main problem has been dealing with NH4's save system 14:11 which I don't fully understand 14:12 and am probably using not at all like how ais523 imagined it would be sanely used 14:12 :P 14:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3942 14:12 basically I mostly treat it as a black box and work around it and making sure it remains happy 14:12 <@mtf> lol 14:13 generally by having several copies of the save system's internal state 14:13 and trying my best at keeping them seperate from each other 14:13 the save system does NOT like being meddled with 14:14 it wasn't really intended to do the kind of thing I demand it to do 14:14 if I actually understood the save system 14:14 the replaymode would probably work much better 14:14 <@mtf> are we turning into JankHack here 14:15 <[Demo]> no thats slex 14:15 no that's [Demo]'s variant 14:15 <[Demo]> holy god 14:15 <@mtf> lol gottem 14:15 <[Demo]> you should see AT_YANK 14:15 <[Demo]> or actually its AD_YANK, i think i made it a dmg type 14:16 <@mtf> what does this do exactly? 14:16 the main thing that makes NH4's replaymode slow, if you wonder 14:16 <[Demo]> https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/master/src/mhitu.c#L1780 14:16 is that it doesn't make any in-memory checkpoints at all 14:16 <[Demo]> look at this shit 14:16 it relies entirely on the file-based ones 14:16 this means that for example 14:16 say you are on action 5000 14:17 <[Demo]> this is absolutely the worst thing ive written for nethack 14:17 the last checkpoint was on action 2000 14:17 going forwards isn't too bad 14:17 the game just applies the next diff 14:17 <[Demo]> im really proud of how bad this sis 14:17 <[Demo]> is 14:17 now, if you go backwards 14:17 it has to load up the last checkpoint before action 4999 14:17 which is the one at 2000 14:17 and apply all the diffs 14:18 up to 4999 14:18 <[Demo]> im gonna print this out one day and put it on the wall 14:18 FIQHack's replaymode solves this by creating in-memory checkpoints every 50-100 actions (don't remember how often exactly) 14:18 meaning it has to go through far less 14:18 and it will also rely on commands instead of diffs (much faster) 14:20 @Winsalot I think you would have been much better off using Conflict on plane of Air 14:21 <@mtf> FIQ: ew, that' seems extremely poor performance-wise 14:21 would have allowed you to not use as many telezaps 14:21 <@Winsalot> yeah that was a mistake not to use it 14:21 [hdf-us] [fh] Jared (Jared55) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 39563 points, T:5026, killed by a renegade priest of Anhur 14:21 <@Winsalot> I put it on later 14:21 he tough 14:21 <@mtf> @Winsalot I did mention that conflict / levi are the best in the air plane 😛 14:21 Renegade priest of Anhur? 14:21 <@mtf> While it's true that the clouds can paralyze you, conflict keeps those damn air ele's busy 14:21 How did you even get such a monster? 14:21 <[Demo]> !lastgame 14:21 [Demo]: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/Jared55/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-04-03%2018%3A21%3A10%2C%20Jared-Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 14:21 [Demo]: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winsalot/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-04-03%2017%3A45%3A41%2C%20Losesalot-Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 14:21 <@mtf> yea wait, what 14:21 changed his alter in minetown.. lol 14:22 Ah 14:22 hadnt had one yet was getting tired 14:22 <@mtf> lol thats amusing 14:23 "You desecrated my altar and turned it towards another god. Guess I'm a renegade now." 14:23 yeah didn't realize it made them renegade 14:23 don't think normal angering does that 14:26 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed the Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:114853 14:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40528 14:27 <@mtf> jesus christ how far is tariru in slex now 14:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40530 14:27 <@Winsalot> Btw, FIQ (and any other devs here) do you catually like C, or would you preffer nethack was written in C++ ? Just wondering 14:27 <@mtf> I imagine they'd prefer C++ 14:27 <@mtf> C is old 14:27 <@mtf> and a pain in the ass at times 14:27 <@Tone> heh, didn't know about that renegade thing. Doesn't make any sense really 14:27 <@mtf> C# all the way 😛 14:28 I like C, I just don't like the amount of antiquation in nethack's codebase. 14:29 <@mtf> yea, that's the other pain point 14:29 <@mtf> nethack source isn't... the best 14:29 <[Demo]> l like how much of an escape nethack is 14:29 <[Demo]> cause i do javascript shit usually 14:29 <@Winsalot> ew, C# is proprietary 14:30 I don't think I've yet found a place in nethack where I wished for C++ features. 14:30 Possibly basic classes. But not much beyond that. 14:30 <@Winsalot> what about python features? 😃 14:30 <[Demo]> im glad its only C because that means its way simpler than if i had to pretend to know C++ to try to add shit 14:31 <@Winsalot> is C really that simple? 14:31 @mtf @Winsalot I prefer C over C++ from what C++ I've seen 14:31 <@mtf> oh? 14:31 <@mtf> don't like the STL? 14:31 <@Winsalot> Hm, Ive only played little bit with C++ and I enjoyed it in a way that I enjoy nethack 14:31 <@Winsalot> because its challenging 14:32 Actually, C++ classes *would* be nice in that you can define functions directly on them, rather than everything being top level. 14:32 <@kritixilithos> Winsalot: mandatory indentation, no thanks 14:32 <@mtf> that's the best part about python 14:32 <@mtf> it forces people to write legible code 14:32 @mtf I haven't messe with C++ enough to answer that 14:32 (In fact, barely at all besides "hello world"-level) 14:32 <@mtf> FIQ: ah... I think that's the real answer to the question then 😛 14:32 But of the C++ syntax I've seen, I've been thrown off 14:33 <@mtf> I'd wager you'd find it better if you spent a bunch of time in it 14:33 FIQ: ? It's more or less just C... 14:33 <[Demo]> i made a cool text based fighting game with more profanities than i know in C++ a few years ago but thats the most ive done 14:33 @mtf Yeah, that's why I added the caveat "from what C++ I've seen" 14:33 unless you're reading some super-optimized code or something 14:33 <[Demo]> u like fought marcus the motherfucker and got his lead pipes or whatever to sell and there were a lot of items and the code was utter shit 14:33 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:33 <[Demo]> variuous enemies with names like that 14:34 <[Demo]> i remember each item had its own fun little description 14:34 <@kritixilithos> best C style https://github.com/jsoftware/jsource/blob/master/jsrc/cu.c#L74 14:35 <[Demo]> good lord 14:35 no 14:35 <@Winsalot> @kritixilithos I don't think c++ indentation was mandatory. 14:35 aosdict: C++ has exceptions and OO 14:35 <@ahrimen> is there a way to get a status on your pet? Its background turned brown 14:35 That is 2 major non-C features 14:35 <@kritixilithos> winsalot: I was referring to python ;P 14:35 FIQ: Exceptions are voluntary, unlike python 14:35 If you don't write any exceptions, your program won't throw any 14:35 aosdict: Ah, that's different 14:36 I need to try doing something in C++ at some point to get an idea of the language 14:36 Meanwhile, I'm thinking of minimal OO: no inheritance, no polymorphism (you can have these but don't have to) 14:36 I'm not really comfortable saying much about it before I've messed with it for real 14:36 <@mtf> the mark of a real software dev 14:37 <@Winsalot> https://www.emojicode.org/ this is the realest programing langiuage 14:37 i want to playslex but the class system is way beyondme 14:37 <@mtf> I write in C almost daily, and I yearn for the times I get to write in C++ or even (in my dreams) C# 14:37 -!- [Demo]1 has joined #hardfought 14:37 I mean, you can take a C codebase and compile it with g++, and it won't contain any of the hateable features of C++. 14:37 <@mtf> jared55: so pick and orc barbarian like I did 14:37 <@Winsalot> I write in R daily 😃 14:37 jared55: for a moment I thought you were talking about C++ with "class system" 14:37 Well, maybe not nethack. But something else. 14:37 due to context 14:38 then I read "slex" 14:38 :P 14:38 aosdict: Yeah but that isn't really using C++ 14:38 I mean 14:38 -!- Menche__ has joined #hardfought 14:38 There was this NetHack multilanguage project 14:38 in C++ 14:38 <@Winsalot> http://lists-archives.com/git/629691-convert-builin-mailinfo-c-to-use-the-better-string-library.html something I found about C++ 14:38 Doesn't mean the entire codebase was written into a C++ context 14:38 it just uses some C++ features 14:38 <@ahrimen> i've been having fun with Rust, i do C++ daily and Rust is a nice break from it 14:39 <@kritixilithos> apl is cool, you can write game of life in fewer bytes than it takes to write "game of life" 14:39 <[Demo]1> i only write extreme bloated react electron node apps 14:39 FIQ: It would be really nice to, for instance, turn struct rm into a class and then be able to do things like levl[x][y].is_door() rather than IS_DOOR(levl[x][y].typ) 14:39 My main issue with C is string handling 14:40 aosdict: You can do that in C with callback hackery 14:41 Yeah but it's much less clean and intuitive :-P 14:41 <@mtf> c-strings are quite nice to work with 14:42 in my Curses refactor I have win->resize() 14:42 @mtf String manipulation in C IME has a tendency to get really awkward 14:43 -!- tsadok has joined #hardfought 14:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v tsadok] by ChanServ 14:43 <@mtf> I'm more talking about C++'s ability to work with C strings... such as char * name = "FIQ" 14:43 Ah 14:43 there is a space between * and name 14:43 surely that was a mistake ;) 14:44 <@mtf> I prefer all of my "words" to have spaces 14:44 (my coding style is the one true way etc) 14:44 <@mtf> that's just how I write 14:44 <@mtf> so I read that "char pointer name equals FIQ" 14:44 ah 14:44 char* name = "FIQ"; fight me 14:44 I'm used to char *name 14:44 aosdict: pls 14:44 that's even worse 14:44 :P 14:44 <@mtf> LOL 14:44 the type is char* 14:44 pffffff 14:44 it looks so wrong 14:44 <@mtf> aos's is actually the standard 14:44 to me 14:44 lol 14:45 but yeah it does make sense 14:45 char *name looks like you're declaring a char variable named *name 14:45 <@kritixilithos> aosdict: what is that around the equals sign 14:45 get to lvl 50, have all invocation items... no candles 14:45 <@kritixilithos> :P 14:45 <@mtf> aos: agreed 14:45 forgot where i put my stash 14:45 found it dlvl 9 14:45 \o/ 14:45 <@mtf> k2: that's what made me quit that priest I still have saved on the vibrating square 14:45 K2: you could just wish for them 14:45 lol 14:45 no 14:45 that's what I do 14:45 (honest!) 14:45 <@mtf> wishing for candles 14:45 if I forgot candles by VS 14:45 <@mtf> uuuuuuuuugh 14:45 dont want to lose my permanent light source 14:45 meh 14:45 I usually have spare wishes 14:46 K2: vlad's exists 14:46 K2: it's the VS... 14:46 it's the end of the game 14:46 <@mtf> you mean spare magic markers? 14:46 do you really need the permalight 14:46 at this point 14:46 i have other reaons as well FIQ 14:46 reasons 14:46 did you not rob vlad for candles 14:46 if i burn a wish it'll be for a marker 14:46 i am short scrolls of gold detection 14:46 yeah there is better wishes 14:46 <@mtf> aos: vlad doesn't have candles in 3.4.3 14:46 technically 14:46 @mtf K2 is playing 3.6.x I think 14:46 or xnh 14:46 !who 14:46 FIQ: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] Jared55 [fh] winny [nd] innmalint [dnh] k2 [xnh] 14:46 K2: remember, the djinni is guaranteed not to give you a wish :P 14:46 xnh 14:46 FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players 14:47 yeah xnh 14:47 yeah aosdict 14:47 aosdict: Haha 14:47 my luck with blessed magic lamps sucks 14:47 <@mtf> I need to give xnh a try 14:47 K2: at least in xnh 14:47 -!- mpt| has joined #hardfought 14:47 @mtf don't bother trying t oget wishes from magic lamps 14:47 it wont work 14:47 <@mtf> so that I don't piss everyone off by recommending fiqhack every once in a while 14:47 *trying to get 14:47 lol 14:47 well I mean 14:47 -!- Menche_ has quit [*.net *.split] 14:47 -!- jonadab has quit [*.net *.split] 14:47 -!- [Demo] has quit [*.net *.split] 14:48 you'll miss out on most of the QoL fiqhack has 14:48 (basically all of it) 14:48 and that's what made you play fiqhack 14:48 but yes 14:48 you should play xnh 14:48 and dnh 14:48 <@mtf> lollll 14:48 but its all good 14:48 and other variants 14:48 i have my candles 14:48 give them all a fair try 14:48 <@mtf> do you understand how hard it is to go to other 'hacks after fiqhack 14:48 and will levelport back to 50 14:48 @mtf you could try out 4k as a stopgap 14:48 no respect till you ascend grunthack 14:48 then go to grunt or something with curses enabled 14:48 progressively worse QoL 14:48 in that respect K2 gets all the respect 14:49 hah 14:49 <@mtf> lol 14:49 j 14:49 k 14:49 l 14:49 <@mtf> man, wtf 14:49 <@mtf> my toilet is bubbling 14:49 <@mtf> just like, of it's own accord 14:49 ...is this slash'em 14:49 are you boiling it 14:49 <@mtf> is the clown from it coming to get me 14:49 rip mtf 14:50 * aosdict should read IT. 14:50 heh that reminds me. i need to go to the hardware store and get some parts 14:50 guest bathroom toilet isnt flushing correctly 14:50 aosdict: apparently it has a really weird and creepy scene near the ene 14:50 d*end 14:50 <@kritixilithos> "The toilet starts to move. The toilet bites" 14:50 the book that is 14:50 FIQ: it's a horror novel. 14:50 no I don't mean horror 14:51 just inappropriate 14:51 slex-level 14:51 @mtf seriously though 14:51 convince variant devs to add more QoL 14:51 hothraxxa is trying too 14:51 problem solved 14:51 don't bother trying to get K2 to add paranoid water to grunt though 14:51 it wont work 14:51 he loves that anti-QoL 14:52 <@mtf> lol 14:52 <@mtf> I mean 14:52 <@mtf> what we need 14:52 <@mtf> is to get all the QoL from FH 14:52 GruntHack is evil and will remain evil 14:52 <@mtf> into a patch 14:52 <@mtf> that other variants can apply 14:52 [hdf-us] [nd] winny (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 786 points, T:1542, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:52 there's getobj that adds NH4-style getobj behaviour to NH3 14:52 ais proposed it for 3.6.1 just a few days ago 14:52 -!- jared55 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:52 bhaak: how well did that go over in DT 14:52 not well I bet 14:53 with hte impression I have of DT 14:53 *the 14:53 @mtf and there is spell maintenance 14:53 in dnh 14:53 plenty of variants have autoexplore 14:53 there's actually talk about releasing 3.6.1 14:53 what really should happen with some of the older 3.4.3 variants is that they be refactored to 3.6.1 or nh4 14:53 <@mtf> 0.o 14:53 that means there is no way I will get curses working in time for 3.6.1 14:53 granted, there was talk about that before christmas as well 14:54 well, working with good code 14:54 FIQ: dont worry about deadlines 14:54 hdf has livelogging for 3.6.1 14:54 @mtf what other major QoL stuff is there 14:54 oh! 14:54 bhaak: I was taken in by that "3.6.1 released" reddit post 14:54 object memory 14:54 but its not in vanilla 14:54 yeah 14:54 good luck 14:54 I'm not implemneting that for NH3 14:54 it was a huge PITA to implement in NH4 as-is 14:54 <@mtf> FIQ: major things like items under objects getting background highlights, different highlights for pets / peacefuls, etc 14:54 FIQ: but it doesn't look likely that your patch goes in if 3.6.1 is released soon. but there was no conceptional criticism of it. 14:55 show object piles already exist in 3.4.3 or 3.6.x 14:55 and all its variants 14:55 highlights for pets also 14:55 peacefuls doesn't have highlight though 14:55 bhaak: Eh, we'll all move over to 3.6.2-dev and getobj and curses can be incorporated in that. 14:55 aosdict: FR for xnh: ^ 14:55 <@mtf> I mean, it was definitely not the same when I played 3.4.3 14:55 aosdict: that confused me, too. as the discussion was going on on the mailing list and I was like "huh, did I miss any mails?" 14:55 @mtf 3.4.3 is utter shit 14:55 from a QoL PoV 14:55 like 14:55 true real vanilla 3.4.3 14:56 <@mtf> hell it wasn't the same when I played 3.6 in devnull 14:56 for comparision, try NAO 14:56 3.4.3 has no menucolors 14:56 no statuscolors 14:56 <@mtf> isn't NAO's version of nethack so modified that it might as well be a variant? lol 14:56 no object piles 14:56 no stairs showin 14:56 g 14:56 etc 14:56 <@mtf> yea, things like that 14:56 @mtf yes 14:56 <@mtf> are extremely important to me 14:56 but most NAO patches are in other variants 14:57 If the game experience keeps improving (and adding curses would definitely do that), people will keep playing the dev version 14:57 at least the important ones 14:57 aosdict: have you seen NAO 14:57 the vast majority plays 3.6.0 14:57 despite hte imporvements 3.6.1 does 14:57 <@mtf> ok, ok 14:57 makes no sense to me 14:57 <@mtf> I have to do work 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41370 14:57 <@mtf> I'm closing discord 14:57 <@mtf> I'll see ya'll later 14:58 <@mtf> lol 14:58 @mtf see you 14:58 FIQ: 3.6.1 has warning labels on NAO "Unstable! May crash or break saves!" and nethack.org makes little obvious mention of it. 14:59 aosdict: seriously? 14:59 3.6.1 is much more stable than 3.6.0 14:59 well not that verbatim 14:59 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:115225 14:59 if it was as stable as that wording 14:59 hdf would host 3.6.0 14:59 "play at your own risk" 14:59 is the least mild it gets 14:59 just convince NAO people to play on hdf :P 15:00 better server maintenance 15:00 Whenever someone mentions 3.6.0, I tell them to play 3.6.1. 15:00 in #nethack. 15:00 tell them to play on hdf instead 15:00 FIQ: did you know that it's *still* september 30th build on hdf 15:00 it is not 15:01 er, 26th 15:01 s/hdf/nao 15:01 Unix NetHack Beta Version 3.6.1-0 - last build Sun Apr 1 21:36:39 2018. (f4d5a160487c495456ba31313eb4b64061bdcb6b,hardfought) 15:01 oh 15:01 nao 15:01 but I don't think that is true 15:01 nao does very aggressive version management 15:01 as in 15:01 if you start the game on one version 15:01 you aren't going to leave that version 15:01 until your game is over 15:02 I don't have a game going, and I still see the Sep 26th build date. 15:02 so to get a real gauge of the ano version 15:02 *nao 15:02 you need to exit out 15:02 ok, let me check 15:02 if that is true... then I have no qualms about telling people to avoid nao 15:02 hm 15:02 you're right 15:02 well then 15:03 then I will no longer avoid telling people to go to hdf instead on #NetHack 15:03 whenever applicable 15:04 <[Demo]1> https://i.imgur.com/OFKORCB.png oh wow 15:05 <@Tone> I don't think NAO tracks endgame stats for 361dev the same way it does for 360, which might be part of the reluctance for people 15:05 It does not, that's correct. 15:05 <@Tone> Also it never gets updated, as you already mentioned 15:05 I like how basically no one here has asked K2 to host 3.6.0 15:06 because nobody wants it 15:06 <[Demo]1> yeah fuck it 15:06 the only time it was was for devnull 15:26 not true. both oh6 and i have asked k2 if he'd host 3.6.0 15:27 <@rikersan> if != want, but that's 2 people I guess 15:39 [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2793 points, T:5756, killed by a dwarf lord, while sleeping 15:45 !who 15:45 FIQ: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] winny [nd] 15:45 FIQ: [hdf-eu] Raisse [xnh] 15:59 [hdf-us] [4k] kek (Bar Dwa Mal Law), 3711 points, T:1063, killed by a force bolt 16:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Maria, on T:115972 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 50 points, T:85, killed by a black pudding 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 57 points, T:206, killed by a scroll of earth 16:17 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Jubelex, on T:116297 16:17 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Jueblex, on T:116298 16:18 <@Tone> 🤔 16:19 -!- mcw has joined #hardfought 16:20 Bonjour and hello! 16:20 -!- mcw is now known as tubs 16:20 <@Tone> Hi 😄 16:22 <@mtf> welcome mcw 😄 16:26 !lastlog 16:27 !lastgame tubs 16:27 tubs: [hdf-us] No last game for tubs on this server. 16:27 tubs: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tubs/dnethack/dumplog/1522767034.dnh.txt 16:27 @mtf hah, you can't see /nick commands can you? 16:27 <@mtf> uhh not that I know of? 16:27 <@mtf> what's a /nick command 16:28 try it 16:28 on discord 16:28 /nick foo 16:28 <@y u do dis> wat 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 807 points, T:1259, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe 16:28 it changes your nick. in this case: Bonjour and hello! * mcw is now known as tubs <@mtf> welcome mcw 16:28 and it works on discord too 16:28 :P 16:28 <@mtf> neat 16:28 can't get away from IRC stuff entirely 16:29 Discord is too shiny and new for me. :( 16:29 tubs: I don't like discord 16:29 I am only on discord as a result of certain communities only being there 16:29 in particular TPPdev 16:30 What's a TPP? 16:30 twitch plays pokémon 16:30 <[Demo]1> discord is really bad 16:30 [Demo]1: yeah that's why you use it 16:30 <[Demo]1> it's very scary to think about how it pays for itself 16:31 <[Demo]1> it's like fast food man 16:31 Screw you [Demo]1 16:31 <[Demo]1> it's very very bad but so fucking convenient 16:31 Now I'm hungry. 16:31 And I literally just woke up from my afternoon/evening napnap. 16:31 <[Demo]1> I really like mcdonalds but I hate it so much 16:33 Fact is you can't beat £1.49 for a double cheeseburger... 16:33 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 33520 points, T:21398, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse 16:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:35 <[Demo]1> wendys was offering double stacks for a buck here limited time offer for a few weeks 16:36 <[Demo]1> they were really good and really cheap 16:39 <@mtf> Until IRC has the features that I love in discord, it will continue to be inferior to me... So, forever IOW 16:40 @mtf Why do you have 3 duplicate videos on twitch? 16:40 er 2 16:41 <@mtf> Which ones? 16:41 FIQHack 16:42 <@mtf> Not dupes, they are the original stream vids... Creating highlights adds another entry 16:42 <@mtf> And only highlights are saved past 3w or whatever 16:42 You created a "highlight" 9 hours long? 16:42 <@mtf> Yes 16:42 Ah 16:42 That's funny 16:42 <@Winsalot> ok, I posted my YAFAP on reddit 😃 16:42 <@Winsalot> goodnight everyone 16:43 <@mtf> Highlights are just saved VODS heh 16:43 <@mtf> Night wins! Grats again 16:43 @Winsalot not in r/nethack 16:43 ? 16:43 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/new/ 16:43 <@mtf> Probably r/roguelikes 16:43 it's not there either 16:44 <@mtf> Lol I dunno then 16:44 I wanted to read it :( 16:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:46 <@Tone> Maybe it got caught in the spam filter 16:46 <@Tone> That happened to me last time I posted in r/nethack 16:46 <[Demo]1> it wasnt mediocre enough to be on reddit 16:47 <@Winsalot> https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/89ia3d/yafap_chaotic_priest_on_fiqhack_story_in_comments/ 16:47 <@Winsalot> Spam filter maybe? 16:47 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Natascha, on T:116797 16:48 yeah it isn't showing 16:48 on r/nethack 16:48 <@Winsalot> fucc 16:48 <[Demo]1> nevermind i take that back 16:48 and Rodney didn't get it 16:48 <[Demo]1> sorry 16:48 <@Winsalot> I will repost from my alt 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1176 points, T:862, killed by Mr. Skibbereen, the shopkeeper 16:49 <[Demo]1> man i see why i like dnethack 16:49 <[Demo]1> i cant resist easy high impact openings 16:49 <[Demo]1> like the broken ass everything system 16:49 <@Tone> Just send mod mail and ask them to release it @Winsalot 16:49 <@Tone> Just send mod mail and ask them to release it @Winsalot 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 25 points, T:6, killed by a falling rock 16:50 <@Winsalot> Ok Tone 16:50 <@Winsalot> Which one is their most active mod? 16:51 <@Tone> There should be a general "message the moderators" button 16:51 <@Tone> Alternatively I think you can just type in /r/nethack as the recipient 16:51 @Winsalot you could crosspost it to r/roguelikes too if you want 16:52 but maynbe not 16:52 *maybe 16:52 don't think they like NetHack much 16:52 MTF does that but he has a stream to show too :P 16:52 <@Tone> Why wouldn't they like nethack? 16:53 @Tone too archaic for them :P 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "a +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:515 16:53 <@Tone> ha 16:54 <@Tone> Haven't browsed there in a while 😄 16:54 <@Tone> DCSS was very popular there from what I remember 16:55 btw 16:55 I've considered generating a soldier in the Ludios spawn point room 16:55 with a blessed wand of teleportation 16:55 whose goal is to immediately zap you with it 16:55 would that be mean? 16:56 <@Winsalot> Yeah, im posting it on roguelikes, cos /r/nethacks mods are weird- one had last action 19 days ago, another -over year ago. The third one is this: https://www.reddit.com/user/skeeto/comments/ 16:56 @Winsalot is one of them ais523? 16:56 if so you could !tell 16:56 message them anyway 16:56 FIQ: more random than I'd prefer (I prefer you spawn on the opposite side of the level and have to fight to get back to the portal) 16:56 the most active one that is 16:56 <@Tone> When I messaged them with the same issue they took care of it in 10 minutes @Winsalot 16:57 <@Tone> That was about a month ago 16:57 aosdict: I kinda like the spawn point being unpredictable 16:58 that means you have to make sure the player doesn't end up in any amazingly advantageous positions, like the vault 16:58 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 68914 points, T:25825, killed by a fire elemental 16:58 <@Winsalot> Ok, I giuess I will wait for tommorow 16:58 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1403 points, T:2570, killed by a hill orc 16:58 I think you can use level zoning to do that 16:59 FIQ: Do you have to consult the Yendorian Zoning Board and obtain a permit before you start? :P 16:59 hmm I'm sure they will accept this 16:59 after all it should be to their advantage 17:02 <@Tone> That would just make most people get tele control before doing Ludios I think 17:02 <@Tone> Does MR protect from tele wands? 17:02 <@Tone> (in fiqhack) 17:02 @Tone Teleport control doesn't work against forced teleportation in noteleport areas 17:03 <@Tone> Ah, neat 17:09 -!- Menche__ is now known as Menche 17:09 That's kind of contradictory 17:09 or inconsistent 17:15 !tell K2 pushed change: imported an E nerf from 3.6.1 17:15 Will do, FIQ! 17:15 it imports what I think is the biggest issue with 3.4.3 E 17:16 *imports a fix to 17:20 Winsalot's reddit post is now live properly on r/nethack 17:23 aosdict: What if your god never gifted you nameable artis? 17:28 <[Demo]1> good change 17:28 <[Demo]1> support 17:36 Woo, I made my first edit to the wiki ever. I feel proud, it's probably completely wrong though. :x 17:41 FIQ: also support 17:42 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:128, killed by a blast of lightning 17:44 [hdf-us] [nd] spork (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 931 points, T:1383, killed by a werejackal 17:48 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1165 points, T:1196, killed by a gnome lord 17:54 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Laurens, on T:118846 17:57 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Sarah, on T:118967 17:57 <@mtf> NOT SARAH 17:57 <@mtf> tariru you monster 17:57 NOT LAURENS 17:57 <@mtf> lol did amy just run out of names 17:57 pushed update: don't generate nameable artifacts as sacrifice gifts 17:58 this does mean no way for chaotic Monks to unrestrict dagger 17:58 rip 17:58 <@mtf> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:58 ??????????????????? 17:58 <@mtf> C buffs?! 17:58 <@mtf> oh BABY 17:58 ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ 17:58 <@mtf> I didn't know you were spanish fiq 17:59 ¡Hola! 17:59 <@mtf> ¿por que? 17:59 he's spanish?! we just got over the swedish/swiss thing! 17:59 lol 17:59 <@mtf> haha 17:59 also it's por qué 18:00 ...no los dos 18:00 <@mtf> bro I don't speak spanish 18:00 <@mtf> I barely speak english 18:00 my spanish teacher kept complaining on us not putting accents where they were supposed to go 18:00 @mtf I thought you were American for some reason 18:00 I guess not 18:00 <@mtf> whoosh 18:00 <@mtf> that's the sound of the joke passing over fiq's head 18:00 oh and our spanish teacher called people out on putting a small dot over vowels 18:01 "is it supposed to be an accent? or an 'accidental' mark? who knows!" 18:01 <@mtf> (I am American, for clarification =P) 18:01 yeah I figured 18:01 <@mtf> lol that's funny 18:02 I did grasp spanish grammar without much issue but never really got a decent vocabulary 18:02 <@mtf> my french teacher in highschool had a southern accent 18:02 [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1143 points, T:2131, killed by a rabid rat 18:02 whic his funny because my English is the complete opposite 18:02 *which 18:02 I keep doing grammar slip-ups when typing fast 18:02 <@mtf> good vocab but poor grammar? 18:02 yeah 18:02 well not *poor* grammar, but I keep making small mistakes 18:02 <@mtf> 'sok, the vocab is more important anyway 18:02 Qu'est-ce que vous aimez au sujet de FIQHack? 18:03 <@mtf> kes-kah-say 18:03 ^ is not what I said 18:03 <@mtf> kes-kah-say-cuh 18:03 aosdict: is that even spanish 18:03 <@mtf> wait no 18:03 pretty sure it isn't 18:03 <@mtf> kes-say-kuh 18:03 <@mtf> french 18:04 ah yeah that would make sense 18:04 but there's no x 18:04 french likes their ux endings 18:04 <@mtf> my favorite french phrase 18:04 <@mtf> août œuf 18:04 <@mtf> august egg 18:04 <@mtf> aka "oot - oof" 18:04 what does that even mean 18:06 Pourquoi est-ce que vous ne mangez pas votre omelettes du fromage? 18:06 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Lamashtu, on T:119158 18:06 @mtf oeuf is more of a "uhf" 18:07 <@mtf> try getting an american to say "uhf" 18:07 the vowel sound is akin to oo as in good, not oo as in boot 18:08 <@mtf> hmm that makes sense 18:10 also the t in aout is _mostly_ silent 18:11 you sort of bring your mouth into a t position while ending the word but don't actually voice it 18:19 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 666 points, T:1633, killed by a small mimic 18:25 NOOOOOOO, my huge pseudodragon... disintegrated by a chameleon ;_; 18:26 <@mtf> lol 18:31 What do I do? :( 18:39 You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly. 18:39 like fuck i haven't. i'm almost finished the second level of sokoban 18:40 aosdict: what do you think of this idea someone had 18:40 alternative ending: invoke ammy at the Wizard's Tower where the original Wizard is/was 18:41 you become the next Rodney 18:41 bonus points for the name being enshrined in the game in server play until someone else claims the title 18:41 ("MTF, the Wizard of Yendor") 18:42 you can play rodneyan in slex 18:42 FIQ: "someone" being me? 18:42 it's my idea so yes I do think it is good :D 18:42 aosdict: Possible. I don't remember but it was on your YANI list 18:43 ok 18:43 ^ what do others think 18:43 [Demo]1: @mtf 18:43 where is jonadab 18:43 tsadok: ^ 19:01 FIQ: do you know if the dnethack author(s) are in here for a !tell? 19:01 Chris_ANG is here sometimes yes 19:04 <@rikersan> tubs what's the issue? 19:04 <@mtf> FIQ: back 19:04 <@rikersan> I might be able to help 19:04 <@rikersan> also aosdict are you french/canadian or do you just speak it? 19:04 <@mtf> FIQ: so wait, you invoke the ammy, turn into the wizard, and the run ends in the wiz tower? 19:05 <@mtf> and you are enshrined? 19:05 <@mtf> I mean, I love the idea of being enshrined 19:05 @rikersan: Took french in school, haha 19:05 <@mtf> as the wiz 19:05 <@rikersan> aosdict ah lol 19:05 <@mtf> but I'm not so sure about the early ending 19:05 @mtf yeah that is the idea 19:05 rikersan: https://pastebin.com/eXTfn1v8 19:06 <@mtf> FIQ: what if... instead, in astral, you destroy your gods altar? or possibly all three altars? thereby claiming the power of the ammy as your own? (just spitballing here) 19:06 <@rikersan> ah, cool 19:06 <@rikersan> tubs jsust leave a tell for him 19:06 <@rikersan> .. !tell Chris_ANG 19:08 !tell LarienTelrunya Looks like a switcher doesn't fix the reduced magic cancellation trap effect. The switcher was blessed. 19:08 Will do, Tariru_! 19:10 !tell Chris_ANG https://pastebin.com/eXTfn1v8 19:10 Will do, tubs! 19:10 rikersan have you noticed how now you are back I am not completely failing?! 19:10 <@rikersan> yep 19:10 <@rikersan> welcome to the club ;) 19:10 A blessed luckstone named rikersan 19:11 <@rikersan> lol 19:11 <@mtf> riker = good luck confirmed 19:11 <@rikersan> I think only nero and porkman can ascend dnh regularly tho 19:11 <@rikersan> I think porkman is 3 for 3 19:11 <@rikersan> minus some startscumming 19:11 <@rikersan> !streak porkman 19:11 @rikersan: porkman Max[dnh]: 3 (2017-10-21 - 2017-11-14). 19:11 <@rikersan> !lastgame porkman 19:11 @rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1510857268.dnh.txt 19:17 Weird, how come the throne archon can use a polearm AND a shield? 19:18 <@rikersan> magic™ 19:18 <@rikersan> no but seriously I think it's bceause they're "large" 19:18 <@rikersan> @d?throne archon 19:18 No such monster. 19:18 <@rikersan> same with you, if you poly into (say) a nessian pit fiend you can wield a two-handed sword one-handed 19:19 <@rikersan> !whereis tubs 19:19 @rikersan: [hdf-us] tubs is not currently playing on this server. 19:19 @rikersan: [hdf-eu] tubs [dnh]: (Brd Hlf Mal Cha) T:17881 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 19:20 [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a little dog, on T:3108 19:21 @mtf THat is one of jonadab's proposed endings IIRC 19:21 [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4872 points, T:3196, killed by a yeti 19:21 !tell LarienTelrunya It also looks like the game doesn't account properly for changes when item appearences and properties are shuffled while wearing an item. I had a ring of random effects that granted fast training on when an amnesia attack shuffled everything, it became something else, but I still kept fast training, even after removing the ring. 19:21 Will do, Tariru_! 19:21 <@mtf> FIQ: oh? was it? I remember the extended game (and potentially fighting your god ending) 19:21 <@mtf> suggestions 19:22 <@mtf> but I think putting player names in-game is always super cool and meaningful 19:22 <@mtf> like the graveyard levels and ghosts are awesome 19:22 <@mtf> but becoming the wizard... now that's cool 19:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12053 19:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2947 20:11 oh ffs my throne archon got poly'd 20:29 <@rikersan> tubs i believe in you 20:29 <@rikersan> you are doing great 20:29 <@rikersan> with that harp nothing can stop you 20:29 <@rikersan> !rng tulani | surya 20:29 @rikersan: surya 20:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased figurine of a tulani eladrin", on T:5907 20:30 <@rikersan> (I don't have a magic whistle) 20:30 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:36 rikersan the harp is poopoo! 20:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:7276 20:38 <@rikersan> tubs wait no it's not 20:38 <@rikersan> all pets follow you between levels 20:38 <@rikersan> tha'ts amazing 20:40 -!- mpt| has quit [] 20:40 I already had magic whistle though so it's meh, but I guess the #invoke is nice? 20:41 <@rikersan> works when tehy're eating too tho 20:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) killed Aglaope, on T:8104 20:46 <@rikersan> i just sat there getting KO'ed lol 20:47 Buh, my shield of reflection went bye-bye 20:48 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 20:49 <@rikersan> rip 20:57 <@rikersan> tfw you have 3 change amulets 21:00 hi 21:00 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 21:00 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-04-03 17:15 EDT: pushed change: imported an E nerf from 3.6.1 21:00 except it's stronger in fiqhack :P 21:01 heh 21:01 rikersan does the lyre invoke not last forever? :(# 21:01 <@rikersan> aw fuck 21:02 <@rikersan> my pets are stoned 21:02 <@rikersan> :* 21:02 <@rikersan> :( 21:02 <@rikersan> uh well I meant petrified not hallu 21:02 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 21:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed figurine of a surya deva named tubs", on T:10060 21:03 K2: you aren't up to date I think 21:03 :o 21:03 <@rikersan> :p 21:03 ? 21:03 according to #version you're 2 commits out of date 21:03 <[Demo]1> fiq ur sleep schedule scares me 21:04 sleep schedule? 21:04 what branch should i be on? 21:04 what is that 21:04 4.3.0 21:04 i'm on that branch 21:04 <@rikersan> lol it's 3 am for you fiq? 21:04 @rikersan yes 21:04 latest commit d6d1e1f3b1bd221017a64a0e877e05f877bbb3e2 21:04 <[Demo]1> im tired and about to fall alseep in the us and ur sitll kicking giq 21:04 no 21:04 <[Demo]1> fiq 21:04 last commit is 9573bf2410c9c9214b67bf2007080664ce8a1abe 21:05 [Demo]1: meh 21:05 that's just how I ma 21:05 *am 21:05 FIQ that means you were making updates at the same time i did a pull 21:05 <[Demo]1> u ever try any of those gnarly like uberman weird sleep schedules? 21:05 i just issued another pull and theres new content 21:06 K2: hmm yeah there was one commit just now 21:06 :) 21:06 but there was also another commit 21:06 several hoursago 21:06 meh 21:06 w/e 21:06 maybe I Forgot to push or something 21:07 git log now - commit 9573bf2410c9c9214b67bf2007080664ce8a1abe 21:07 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 21:07 there is also another commit you forgot 21:07 /s 21:08 how can i forget it? this is all automated 21:08 I said /s 21:08 what... does that mean disregard last satement? 21:09 /s is a sarcasm marker 21:09 oooooh 21:09 hahah... HAH 21:09 you got ME on sarcasm 21:09 !!! 21:09 heh 21:09 you're making progress ;) 21:09 but I generally mark sarcasm with /s 21:09 because internet sarcasm is hard 21:09 <[Demo]1> thats some gay reddit shit to do 21:09 at least for me 21:09 ;) 21:09 ;) 21:09 [Demo]1: yeah I see it plenty on reddit 21:10 but it didn't originate there 21:10 seen it elsewhere plenty too 21:10 What would cause scrolls to not stack? 21:10 Both uncursed, both enchant weapon. 21:10 Neither stolen. 21:10 tubs: you're playing dnethack 21:10 right 21:10 <[Demo]1> dnethack being weird 21:10 <[Demo]1> random fields set lol 21:10 Ah 21:10 dnethack likes doing that 21:11 at one point dnethack forced everything to be +3 21:11 in special levels etc 21:11 (not literally everything but a lot of things) 21:11 and things kept not stacking 21:11 due to this 21:12 <@rikersan> tubs: you sure i'ts not stolen 21:12 <@rikersan> someitmes it doesn't show up until a while later 21:12 <@rikersan> and it needs to be formally IDed to mark stolen ofc 21:12 @rikersan I've seen several times in dnh things not stacking 21:12 even when I know it isn't stolen 21:12 I've had 3 stacks of things too 21:12 stolen and 2 not stolen 21:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed figurine of a tulani eladrin named Lamashtu", on T:11183 21:16 <@rikersan> nice? 21:16 No idea 21:16 <@rikersan> it's not great 21:16 <@rikersan> but it's not horrible 21:16 I don't have perma fire res so I'll take it 21:16 <@rikersan> it's kinda just a weird mishmosh of stuffs 21:16 <@rikersan> ya 21:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11903 21:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:11903 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased flying boots", on T:11917 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of the unheld one", on T:11923 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:11925 21:26 i need to read the nethack reddit more often 21:26 tsadok - replied to your post 21:26 <[Demo]1> tsadok looks like it should be something backwards 21:27 rikersan should I try to bust the Tulani Eladrin out of its cage on the law quest and tame it? 21:30 <@rikersan> it depends 21:30 <@rikersan> those iron bars are unbreakable 21:30 <@rikersan> you need to phase or teleport it out 21:30 <@rikersan> yes, it's worth trying with a wand of tele 21:31 <@rikersan> but bear in mind it will likely be killed by the autons (it's chaotic, they're lawful) 21:31 <@rikersan> anywya I'm gonna take a break now 21:31 <@rikersan> k2: is jonadab even gonna get pinged by that? lol 21:31 Oh I thought striking wored on iron bars here 21:33 Wait, why is he coming back? :( 21:34 Ah I see. 21:40 @rikersan, yeah it's him ;) 21:41 and he'll see the reddit post 21:46 where *is* jonadab? Kinda long for him to be gone. 21:47 no idea 21:47 I mean, he's *here*, just not under his usual handle 21:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41864 21:53 !whereis tubs 21:53 Tarmunora: [hdf-us] tubs is not currently playing on this server. 21:53 Tarmunora: [hdf-eu] tubs [dnh]: (Brd Hlf Mal Cha) T:31769 Law Quest level: 5 21:53 -!- Tarmunora has left #hardfought 21:54 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 21:54 Whoops 22:00 Whops! 22:01 <[Demo]1> anyone built nethack for web assembly? 22:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42098 22:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42102 22:04 <@rikersan> demo that sounds painful why would somebody 22:04 <@rikersan> tubs, what pets do you have? 22:04 <@rikersan> wait do you not have pets 22:05 <@rikersan> ah, 1 archon (?) 22:05 <@rikersan> no, avenger 22:05 <@rikersan> @d?arcadian 22:05 arcadian ~3~ barbarian (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 1 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon stun | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 22:05 <@rikersan> @d?arcadian avenge 22:05 arcadian avenge ~1~ arcadian avenger (A) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 1 | Attacks: 1d1 weapon physical, 1d1 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 1d8 claw physical, 2d6 gaze study, 2d1 passive soul | Alignment: 5 | Flags: flies, stalker 22:06 <@rikersan> !tell Chris_ANG AD_SOUL isn't just deep ones, it's arc. avengers as well, might as well add that to the comment in monattk.h 22:06 Will do, @rikersan! 22:06 Riker it's Oona! 22:07 <@rikersan> oh is it 22:07 <@rikersan> lol 22:07 <@rikersan> I just saw the avenger picking up stuff in the feed 22:07 <@rikersan> nice 22:07 I lost my Throne Archon to a poly trap 22:07 And my huge pseudodragon to a disintegration blast 22:07 <@rikersan> rip 22:07 Oona is good yes? 22:07 <@rikersan> 2 useful notes 22:07 <@rikersan> she's great 22:07 <@rikersan> what element did you get 22:07 But I tamed her and now I can't find her key :-( 22:07 Lightning I think 22:07 <@rikersan> you can't get it 22:08 <@rikersan> you have to kill her 22:08 <@rikersan> (to get it) 22:08 Ah OK np 22:08 <@rikersan> sorry but them's the rules 22:08 <@rikersan> 1. treasure vault dudes can sometimes be tamed, if you're lucky (see gig. pseudodragon) 22:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:42503 22:09 <@rikersan> 2. surya deva are nice, you get 2 pets with one figurine (golem and angel, angel casts healing spells on you and co.) 22:09 I see. 22:09 Yeah I did all the vaults but they had pretty lame mobs in 22:09 Nightgaunt, titan, some bebeliths 22:09 <@rikersan> ah 22:10 <@rikersan> also, last note for bards vs demon lords 22:10 <@rikersan> bring extra healing (spell). you want it. it cures your pets or blind/conf/stun/hallu so they don't murder your own ass 22:10 <@rikersan> good luck tubs! 22:12 What are good geno targets in dnh? 22:12 Ah ok, thanks re extra healing! :) 22:16 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:17 [hdf-us] [slex] Wolfywoo (Ice Lyc Fem Cha), 120 points, T:622, killed by a monster (Mr. Lahinch, the shopkeeper) 22:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:43166 22:20 K2: trying to spellcast at all as barb? Is it too easy? 22:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43172 22:23 aosdict: i generally dont mess with spells with this type of role 22:24 i'll read one spellbook (1st one i find) and use that as my source of confusion 22:24 Well, if you had a lot of difficulty spellcasting, that's good, but I'm interested in how easy/hard it is to make a barb caster. 22:30 ah 22:30 i've done it before 22:30 just not recently 22:30 usually with a human barbarian 22:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:43817 22:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43817 22:31 barb Pw regen should be on the order of anyone else who's not a wizard late game 22:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3703 22:31 which seems a bit wrong to me 22:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4055 22:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44168 22:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:44225 22:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:44229 22:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:44254 22:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44290 22:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Mitra, on T:44300 22:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44307 22:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:44338 22:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:44352 22:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2879866 points, T:44362, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/xnethack/dumplog/1522464477.xnh.txt 22:57 wow, those last dozen messages 22:57 hah 22:58 a big long string of whoop ass 22:58 it looks like you're having an epic drum-off or something 22:58 \o/ 22:58 I'm pretty far off the astral plane though 22:59 well get Garland and Chaos out of the way, we're all waiting 22:59 @rikersan Yes, I get pinged when tsadok is mentioned, because I have it on hilight, because it's one of my altnicks. 23:03 oh hey... petless conduct 23:04 foodless petless nude zen atheist pacifist? 23:04 working properly this time ;) 23:05 YASI: for conduct, track each armor slot. So if you're not quite up to nudist, you can at least ascend shoeless and shirtless. 23:05 tsadok: in my dreams 23:05 aosdict yes seems so 23:05 Oh, hey, when did my nick change? 23:06 i did enter astral w/ conflict 23:06 -!- tsadok is now known as jonadab 23:06 somewhere, LarienTelrunya just suffered a severe pain at the mention of "ascend shoeless" 23:06 no shoes no shirt no service 23:07 YASI: shopkeepers won't let you in if you don't have a shirt or footwear. 23:08 K2: I feel like, before putting the thing on a server, we should track down the extended-command segfault, at least. 23:08 not a bad idea 23:19 I crunched a little bit of data regarding room lighting: https://i.imgur.com/2lsl0u5.png 23:24 Does anyone know where the first key of chaos is supposed to be? 23:28 Well, you see... 23:28 You find it where you find sting 23:28 And Orcrist 23:28 (you just name it) 23:32 ._. 23:33 I've taken to naming my regular keys in vanilla "The First Key of Chaos" 23:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7608 23:46 [hdf-us] [slex] Wolfywoo (Ice Lyc Fem Cha), 13869 points, T:3665, poisoned by a rotted hobbit brigand thief corpse 23:52 [hdf-us] [fh] ahrimen (Sam Hum Mal Law), 36208 points, T:2025, died of strangulation