00:03 Manticores are terrifying. 00:06 [hdf-us] [dyn] Nunya (vergessen) (Con Orc Mal Cha), 109 points, T:795, killed by a newt 00:08 "thou hast done me well" sounds wrong. Like ursula le guin's example of "whithersoever thou goest there also I goest" 00:08 s/done me well/done well 00:14 -!- tubs has quit [Quit: *poof*] 00:28 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:39831 00:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:45 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:61791 02:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:36 Elronnd: but "thou hast" is actually the correct form 02:36 ^ /me 's evil twin 02:36 er 02:36 * raisse 's evil twin ^^ 03:11 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:62645 03:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:62657 03:36 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63403 04:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 04:59 heh 05:00 deadly gas spores 05:11 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:14 !lastgame Demo 05:14 FIQ: Message from aosdict at 2018-04-01 19:15 EDT: With the way movement points are allocated, putting a "did you move" check on the code that grants you bonus actions means that you could theoretically walk up to something, having just banked a bonus action or two, and hit it a few times. 05:14 FIQ: Message from aosdict at 2018-04-01 19:16 EDT: However, it doesn't work to put this check on the code that deducts movement points either - because then bonus movement points due to polyself will be removed as well whenever you do something that isn't move. 05:14 FIQ: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-03-30%2021%3A03%3A30%2C%20nerfhowbadiam-Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha%2C%20died.txt 05:32 -!- tubs has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 05:34 !who 05:34 FIQ: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nd] 05:34 FIQ: [hdf-eu] winsalot [fh] tubs [dnh] elenmirie [xnh] Raisse [xnh] 05:34 ah 05:42 ah 05:43 ? 05:43 I haveno idea, I'm hungover and not thinking straight. 05:44 ah 05:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:55 The watchman is killed! You hear someone beseeching Huhetotl. 05:56 temples are nice 05:56 this is a crossaligned temple (and anyway I'm a priestess) 05:56 (of Quetzalcoatl) 06:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:42 Elronnd: 343-statuscolors would forever lock the variant into being Linux-only and tty-only. 06:43 Well, my branch of the variant. 06:56 :o An Arch-Lich mask and a ring of polymorph. 06:56 Fun times ahead! 07:02 Elronnd yeah I can have a look 07:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:05 <@Winsalot> So wands can have negative number of charges now? 07:06 <@Winsalot> bug? 07:06 yes 07:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/430322152940634112/Screenshot_2018-04-02_14-06-23.png 07:06 not a bug 07:06 <@Winsalot> how? 07:06 if its a negative value, you can never recharge it 07:07 <@Winsalot> oh, ok 07:07 was cancelled most likely 07:07 <@Winsalot> yeah, I canceled the dude who was carrying it 07:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:14 not true 07:14 cancelled wandscanbe recharged 07:14 must be a fh only thing 07:14 no... 07:15 also, zapping monster wll not cancel their inventory 07:16 hmm 07:18 might as well be forever 07:18 i wouldnt waste a scroll of charging on most wands that were -1 07:19 tat s becuseyou wouldn't use it if it was 0 either 07:22 <@Winsalot> So, Im at the wizard's tower. Still have 2 wishes 07:22 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:22 <@Winsalot> Really nervous because before this the furthest I ever got was castle 07:22 <@Winsalot> Don't even know what to expect in those planes 07:23 when I ascended 07:24 my prevous bestwas sokoban 07:24 <@Winsalot> nice. 07:25 <@Winsalot> watching MTF's ascension right now, to be prepared 😃 07:25 heh 07:25 <[Demo]> when I ascended my previous best was choking to death on an owlbear corpse on dlvl3 with the amulet 07:25 @mtf would behappy to know 07:27 <@Winsalot> Does FIQhack not let you choke on food? 07:27 <@Winsalot> Because it never happened to me 07:27 it does 07:27 but NH4 issafer 07:27 <[Demo]> it makes it a hell of a lot harder 07:28 <@Winsalot> btw, Im thinking about wishing for summon nasty spell 07:28 you only choke if you take a 1st bite while oversatiated 07:28 <@Winsalot> not sure if it's a good idea, but I know it's a fun one 07:28 and you will always know when you are close to, or at, that point 07:29 because you will aveahard time gettng down something 07:29 you can go on with tht food then, it s safebut the next one mght kill 07:30 <@Winsalot> btw, will I be fine with 130 HP? 07:30 <@Winsalot> MTF had 300 😃 07:30 that is really low 07:30 <[Demo]> yeah 07:30 Oh no. 07:30 phase spidersare assholes 07:30 Yes. 07:30 ht and run and high AC 07:31 teleports alloverthe place 07:31 There were 4 of them on a river level and I couldn't find the upstairs. 07:31 I was doing not terribly for once :( 07:31 <[Demo]> i have had some really bad experiences with phase spiders 07:31 <@Winsalot> I guess I need intristic teleport control then 07:31 <[Demo]> like spending half an hr trying to fight them off with cosmos and shape the wind 07:31 if you want easymode while learning dnh 07:31 <[Demo]> and flying over a river 07:31 play half dragon monk 07:32 <[Demo]> half dragon monk isnt even that easy compared to some of the things u can do 07:32 <[Demo]> like ana inc 07:32 <[Demo]> or inc binder 07:32 <[Demo]> well 07:32 ana s weird 07:32 <[Demo]> inc binder is a bit harder cause u gotta know things 07:32 at least mon hlf uses normal nethck mechanics 07:32 <[Demo]> yeah, fair 07:32 <[Demo]> hlf are slow though 07:33 <[Demo]> 10, not 12 07:33 I like pets! 07:33 but monks 07:33 <[Demo]> and that could be pain 07:33 Troubadooooor 07:33 are reallystrongerlygme 07:33 like 07:33 outside dnh craziness 07:33 Tbh it's not the difficulty of the role, it's the lack of thinking and pausing on my part :) 07:33 monk earlygame is the easiest 07:33 <[Demo]> i dont fuck with the bard role 07:34 <[Demo]> need an easier way to tame at the beginning of the game 07:34 I got a magic harp early-ish 07:34 and Half Dragon means you get a good pet throughout 07:34 tubs: dnh and fh are best for pet wrangling 07:34 good thing you play dnh 07:34 <[Demo]> i would argue dnh is best because you can actually interact with their armour and such 07:34 I'm quite liking dnh, it feels like nethack, but with more stuff. 07:34 <[Demo]> i am really glad fh lets u desaddle ur steed 07:35 Not like a totally different game 07:35 demo 07:35 But I am super bad because I have 0 patience, still, I have fun so! 07:35 you can control pet equipment in fh 07:35 <[Demo]> oh you can now? 07:35 not directly 07:35 but yes 07:36 they will prefer what you throw them 07:36 <[Demo]> i found some strange bug with dnh pet item catching but i forgot it 07:36 and if you want escape items 07:36 you can stuff wht you wanttem to use na bag 07:37 and give them 07:37 <[Demo]> my pets are never the most intelligent 07:37 healing items 07:37 remove curse 07:37 you can even let them enchant ther stuff 07:37 <[Demo]> genocide 07:37 FIQ: I don't think the ramifications of declaring "all speed applies only to movement, all non-movement things zero your movement points" is a workable system. 07:38 aosdict: PMD uses it 07:38 what is PMD 07:38 Mystery Dungeon 07:38 Oh, do you have to use conflict to get pets to attack always-peaceful in dnh? 07:39 yes 07:39 <[Demo]> yes 07:39 or anger them 07:39 I suppose I could just live with "all non-movement things cancel out magical speed bonuses", despite the fact that that's slightly abuseable 07:39 <[Demo]> unlike fh 07:39 <[Demo]> where if you anger them the pet is still retarded 07:39 <[Demo]> and wont fight it 07:39 If I anger and the pet kills it's not murder right? 07:39 it will 07:39 <[Demo]> isnt murder. 07:39 ut level restrctons still apply 07:39 <[Demo]> fiq what is the base level of a green dragon? 07:40 <[Demo]> and what is the base level of an aligned priest? 07:40 The other option is adding extra stats to track whether your extra actions come from speed trinsics or from polyself. 07:40 same as vanilla 07:40 <[Demo]> does it matter that the dragon came from poly? 07:41 @v)green dragon 07:41 @v>green dragon 07:41 <[Demo]> like he was a little dog or something but got the poly into a green dragon 07:41 ffs 07:41 anyway idk 07:41 why 07:41 <[Demo]> he wouldnt fight the priest 07:41 <[Demo]> even after i threw a rock at mr priest and he started trying to kill me 07:41 <[Demo]> and he was perfectly healthy 07:42 @v?green dragon 07:42 green dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Attacks: 4d6 breath drain str, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Alignment: 6 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, poisonous 07:42 @v?aligned priest 07:42 aligned priest (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 1d4 kick physical, 0d0 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 07:42 poly mght matter 07:42 cannot check atm 07:42 <[Demo]> ok 07:42 on phlne 07:43 were you riding him 07:44 <[Demo]> nope 07:45 ok 07:45 I don't want to complain, but if I had to, screw you Huan Ti! 07:45 <[Demo]> stormhelm is great :P 07:45 <[Demo]> I can see wanting premium heart though :P 07:46 Aye, Hammerfeet are pretty poo though right? 07:46 <[Demo]> yes but they could be useful early game 07:46 <[Demo]> just to kick shit away from you 07:47 True 07:47 <[Demo]> unfortunately monks dont get a kick attack like they should in dnh 07:47 <[Demo]> might try to ghetto that onto ndnh 07:49 I found a blade dancer's dagger in a shop, which is somewhat exciting, but I am absolutely terrified of the new K in dnh so I'm not sure if I am going to steal it. 07:49 <[Demo]> you'd die at this point and it wouldnt do you any good 07:49 <[Demo]> that weapon sucks, useless for a monk 07:49 The spear is ok isn't it? 07:50 ime vampires can deal wth K from level 1 07:50 <[Demo]> I could see using the spear early game with some roles maybe 07:52 <[Demo]> hmm, i need to figure out how to get AT_KICK player attacks to act the same as kicking shit as the player 07:53 symmetry 07:53 :) 07:54 <[Demo]> fuck 07:54 <[Demo]> dokick.c is a thing 07:54 yes 07:55 <[Demo]> guess im doing a bit of a kicking rework 07:56 I still get the d(dex/2) bonus in dnh though right? 07:56 And I guess that is 2x from the Hammerfeet 07:56 Which means it's like.. d7+d6 x2, which isn't *terrible* 07:57 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:11743 08:00 <[Demo]> hmm it seems chris already reworked kicking 08:02 Blah. I take it back though, hammerfeet are quite interesting, it seemed like the knockback robs the enemy of movepoints, so if you get them into a wall you can just smash away at them without them responding. 08:02 Like foot-jousting. 08:02 Fousting. 08:07 <[Demo]> "You miss the grid bug. You kick the grid bug. You kick the grid bug. You kill the grid bug! You kill the grid bug! dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending--More--" yey i forgot a break 08:08 <@Winsalot> master wand of secret door detection is reliable way to find portals? 08:08 yes 08:08 <@Winsalot> nice 08:08 <@Winsalot> thank god 08:09 <@Winsalot> This problem solved then 08:09 you ahve to be in range though 08:09 (I don't know what the range is, exactly, but the wiki will) 08:09 <@Winsalot> "master Reveals hidden things on the entire level " 08:09 if the wand balance patch is in use, master wand skill shows everything on the level 08:10 <@Winsalot> range is entire level 😉 08:13 <[Demo]> i hate ghettoing shit 08:14 <[Demo]> so what level of martial arts should grant a bonus kick attack? 08:14 <[Demo]> grand master? 08:16 <[Demo]> "You hit the leprechaun! You kick the leprechaun. The leprechaun is thrown backwards by the force of your blow! Your cold-iron shoes sear the leprechaun's flesh!" yey 08:21 it could read my Elbereth the first time, but not the second 08:23 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 08:28 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:29 <@Winsalot> btw, does magic missle work on Death? 08:29 afaik yes 08:38 <[Demo]> nice 08:38 <[Demo]> that's ur best armour right there 08:39 I'll never complain ever again. 08:39 Does two-weaponing while not wielding anything do more damage as a monk? 08:40 I like it that touchstones are in the hardware store 08:43 <[Demo]> yes, you get to hit twice 08:46 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 08:46 <[Demo]> whats uarm? 08:48 I think uarm is your body armor?\ 08:48 <[Demo]> ahhhh yeah 08:48 uarms is shield, uarmh is helm, uarmg is gauntlets... 08:49 <[Demo]> ok this works well enough as in it hasnt crashed yet therefore it works 08:50 YASI: if you are wielding a bow and have arrows quivered, you can #nock one, which spends a turn and doesn't fire it, but causes the next fire command to not use up a turn. 08:51 But it doesn't multi-fire, the free shot just fires the one nocked arrow. 08:51 And by "free" I mean sunk cost. 08:52 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:55 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:01 <[Demo]> why does the shitty explode code work the way it does 09:01 <[Demo]> like typing done by a modulus 09:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05 jonadab: thinking about adding random rooms to the maze generation code, do you think it'd be better to place them first and generate the maze around them, or slap them down on top of the generated maze? 09:05 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:09 <[Demo]> that's some slex shit to do 09:18 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 09:20 aosdict: Depends what effect you want. Note that if you slap them on after, you disrupt the maze and either create loops (if you put a corridor around the outside of the room or put entrance doors everywhere possible) or make the maze discontinuous. 09:20 Yeah, generating before the maze seems like the way to go, probably. 09:21 I think before I actually start coding anything, I'm going to have to go through mkroom.c, mklev.c, and mkmaze.c adding documentation to each function because oh god why is there nothing telling anyone what they actually do. 09:23 Hmm, should probably do that in my 361-dev fork so I can make it a pull request. 09:23 aosdict: you're reading 1.x code 09:23 one of the oldest parts in the codebase 09:23 <[Demo]> ha get 1.xd 09:23 <[Demo]> i will never touch that shit 09:23 while plenty of places has been "modernized" over time 09:23 level eneration hasn't really 09:23 FIQ: because nobody knows how to refactor it perhaps :-) 09:24 <[Demo]> nh4 does im sure 09:25 no 09:25 the code is almost completely untouched in nh4 09:25 or completely, not sure 09:25 <[Demo]> oh wow 09:25 well 09:26 indentation changed 09:26 since NH4 made all indentation consistent 09:26 but other than pure formatting changes 09:26 nothing else changed 09:26 4k, un and spork 09:26 has messed with that code 09:27 the explosion code? what's the matter with it? 09:29 explode.c has a more consistent indentation than most of the code 09:30 bhaak: I am talking about level gen code 09:30 Not explosion code 09:32 <[Demo]> Im talking about the explosion code and how it seems to limit to only 10 types of explosions the way it is set up 09:32 The maze gen code is particularly hard to follow. 09:32 Oh no. I am just awful. 09:32 Well, no, actually, the special level (des/lev) code is much harder to wade through. 09:33 Room/corridor code is not too bad. 09:33 Relatively speaking. 09:33 ironic. 09:35 but maze code should be the simplest to follow... 09:35 pretty sure maze generation is far eaiser than room and corridor generation 09:36 jonadab: how did the adjustment of the rldev post go 09:39 [Demo]: you are referring to (abs(type) % 10) ? something like that is used in several places. there's possible places where type is a negative number. assuming a specific ordering of things, no compilation error if you change it and such shit. 09:41 I think the abstype thing is an artifact of buzz 09:42 it looks almost like that but the types don't match 09:42 <[Demo]> buzz? 09:42 <[Demo]> it would be a bitch to change it all 09:42 <[Demo]> guess who doesnt feel like doing that? :P 09:43 buzz has "magic missile, fire, cold, sleep, death/disintegration, lightning" 09:43 explode has ..., oh, you are right. it has "magic missile, fire, cold, [missing], disintegration, lightning" 09:44 i didn't notice that the case statement for sleep was missing. 09:45 [Demo]: well, the right way to do it would to refactor it first. so that it no longer needs a certain ordering of ints but something type safe. 09:45 [Demo]: someone on the nh4 team (might've been dtsund, might've been coppro, I forget which) attempted to rewrite buzz() at one point. Did not finish. 09:46 <[Demo]> why would i waste time refactoring :P 09:47 a good refactoring is worth its time :-p 09:47 [Demo]: Right, what you need to do, is fix the bug where a thrown weapon can pass unimpeded between two diagonally adjacent long-worm segments. 09:47 if you never wanna change that code, then of course you don't need to 09:47 THat is clearly the most important thing. 09:49 <[Demo]> that is a very serious issue 09:50 <[Demo]> why refactor when i can just ghetto in special casing 09:53 -!- jonadab has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:53 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 09:58 <[Demo]> what should be done to healer to make it less ass? 09:58 bleeding 09:58 make it *cause* bleeding 09:59 bhaak: I may have asked you this before, but would the DT consider a pull request that just adds documentation in the form of comments above functions? 09:59 <[Demo]> thats not very healy 10:00 <[Demo]> i think im gonna go for a really wild mix of various healer shit from various games 10:02 aosdict: I think you already asked but I'm not sure if or what I answered. but I think that would be accepted 10:03 <[Demo]> oh hmm chris gave healers a quarterstaff to start with 10:04 <[Demo]> i dont like that 10:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3427 10:05 I love "some watery tart" 10:05 :) 10:08 <@Winsalot> so this Rodney, do I wanke him up gently, or with a wand of death? 10:09 give him a gentle tap with a quarterstaff of mercy 10:11 heh 10:11 monty python for the win 10:11 How come I am burdened when I mount my large pseudodragon even though I'm unburdened when I'm walking? 10:11 [Demo]: give healers a stack of blessed eucalyptus, and buff pets. 10:11 jonadab: I don't think [Demo] is going for class differentiation or balance here 10:11 <[Demo]> they arent a pet role 10:12 <[Demo]> i think im gonna go for a pacifist role actually 10:12 Healer is *the* pet role. 10:12 <[Demo]> not in dnh 10:12 Which, yes, also makes it the pacifist role. 10:12 <[Demo]> they are gonna be like slashem koalas in ndnh i think 10:12 <[Demo]> at least earlier game 10:12 Oh, dnethack. Dunno. 10:12 tubs: that may be a bug 10:12 <[Demo]> late game they should be fine with the staff and all the self healing they can do 10:13 <[Demo]> and the pets they can build up 10:13 <[Demo]> tubs ive talked to chris about this 10:13 <[Demo]> fuck him and fuck his riding policy 10:13 <[Demo]> basically dnh uses your steeds carrying capacity as yours when you ride it 10:13 <[Demo]> which means you can get unlucky and get a particularly bitchy giant eagle 10:13 <[Demo]> and it isnt even usable as a steed 10:13 <[Demo]> chris says it isnt a bug 10:13 [hdf-us] [un] ttc1401 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:19776 10:17 Ah so I justr need to #loot all its junk maybe... *tests* 10:18 No, even worse. 10:19 Ugh; the grown up forms aren't even strong (currently large pseudodragon) 10:20 <[Demo]> no its junk doesnt matter for its carrying cap you get 10:20 <[Demo]> its fucked and sick and twisted and really fucks over anyone that thinks they are gonna ride 10:21 Is the cap random or something? 10:22 I thought it was based on size and MB_STRONG (and maybe flying)? 10:24 <[Demo]> flying doesnt help unfortunately, might be size based idk 10:24 <[Demo]> its something chris did that makes no sense 10:24 <[Demo]> and he doesnt want to accept that it makes no sense 10:24 <[Demo]> and its a pain in the ass 10:24 <[Demo]> therefore i have to be a dick about it 10:25 Well I'm in your camp, doubly sucks because I'm a knight. 10:25 Should at least special case starting steed ._. 10:27 <@Winsalot> Can I throw away bell, book and candelabrum once I enter sanctum? 10:27 Polymorph doesn't last forever in dnh right? 10:28 <[Demo]> for whom? 10:28 <[Demo]> items and monsters it lasts forever 10:28 <[Demo]> yourself, no, not unless you have unchanging 10:29 [Demo] or tubs - if you have the know-how, perhaps look at the dnh code, and put forth apull request that fixes the code so steeds assist with your carrying capacity 10:30 that would probably go over a lot better than 'fuck this blah blah blah' 10:30 <[Demo]> i dont want results, i want to be angry 10:30 <[Demo]> but yeah good idea 10:30 [Demo]: so would zapping my large pseudodragon with a polywand be a or? 10:30 <[Demo]> I wouldn't 10:30 <[Demo]> just tame some random ass dog or cat with food and zap that 10:31 Is ki-rin still the go-to late game steed? I found a magic lamp. 10:31 <[Demo]> giant eagle is 10:31 <[Demo]> but the problem is steeds arent for late game in dnh 10:31 <[Demo]> like honestly that lance is real nice but you are really limited to carrying capacity if you decide you want a steed 10:32 Ah 10:32 -!- Blastin_in has joined #hardfought 10:33 Will have some fun 10:33 Will die anyway because I have no pause button :) 10:35 -!- Blastin_in has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:95973 10:41 <@Winsalot> @FIQ have segfault on eu-hardfought. 10:42 <@Winsalot> Used summon nasty inside sanctum on vrok. 10:51 FIQ ^^ 10:52 Did something just crash? 10:52 My game just ended and couldn't be recovered. 10:52 one sec 10:52 server is fine, prob just your specific game 10:53 lemme try and recover 10:53 @Winsalot - I sent FIQ a pm with a link to your saved game 10:54 tubs you play on eu server correct? 10:54 this is 2018, does nethack really need to be doing >> 1 to divide numbers by 2 10:54 Yessir. 10:54 aosdict: think of the cycles!!!1 10:54 ok... heh was looking on us server 10:55 tubs: any compiler worth its salt will optimize / 2 into >> 1 anyway :) 10:55 I hoped my "!!!1" was enough to show my sarcasm :x 10:56 tubs - no recover files, however there's a backup of your last save 10:56 april 1st 8:30pm UTC 10:56 Good enough for me! Thanks. :) 10:56 Wait that is ages ago? 10:56 last night 10:56 Eh, leave it, will start again, but now I hate steeds so it's OK. 10:57 you dont want to continue your game? 10:57 even if its back a ways? 10:57 That is about 50 characters ago! :p 10:57 oh geez 10:57 I am really, really bad at this game. 10:58 Still enjoy it though 10:58 learning curve for dnethack is high compared to vanilla 10:58 I'm terrible at vanilla! Took me 4 years to ascend for the first time. 11:00 pff, 4 years. 11:01 there are people that needed decades to ascend for the first time 11:01 took me about 20 yrs on/off 11:01 <[Demo]> dnethack learning curve is funny 11:01 <[Demo]> it exists 11:02 <[Demo]> but u only need to climb the first bit and u can skip the rest with how op some shit is 11:02 and my 2 ascensions playing local i dont really count, because I save-scummed the hell out of those games 11:02 so really, my 1st ascension on NAO is truly my first legit ascension 11:03 <[Demo]> i ascended vanilla slashem before vanilla nethack 11:04 Trying to recreate my glory days. Alas. 11:05 I quite like vanilla slashem (other than doppelgangers), but I find slex too "overwhelming" if that makes sense? 11:05 thats putting it lightly 11:06 <[Demo]> slex is nuts 11:06 <[Demo]> i like vanilla slashem doppelganger 11:06 Just feels so much stronger than any other race. 11:07 <[Demo]> yeah its fun 11:09 [hdf-us] [un] ttc1401 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed can of grease", on T:23013 11:10 bhaak: the hardest part of this is going to be forcing myself not to refactor stuff while I'm looking at it 11:10 mz_move. It's a macro that should really be a function. And it can call panic! 11:11 <[Demo]> ha 11:12 <[Demo]> i would never refactor anything ever 11:12 kernel planic? 11:18 <@mtf> @Winsalot hey cool man 😄 You watching the arc win? I had a lot of fun with that game 11:18 <[Demo]> should healing explosions make a blast? 11:20 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Marvin, on T:97274 11:20 <[Demo]> @le?Marvin 11:20 Marvin (X) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d3 weapon drain con, 1d1 touch shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: metallivore, nopoly 11:21 <[Demo]> very dangerous 11:21 <@mtf> healing explosions should totally make a blast 11:21 <@mtf> but a healing blast 11:21 <[Demo]> sorry i meant noise 11:21 <@mtf> oh 11:21 <[Demo]> just seems like it wouldnt be very loud? 11:21 <@mtf> well, yea 11:21 <@mtf> all explosions are loud 11:22 <[Demo]> giving healers crossbows and syringes that cause healing explosions 11:22 <[Demo]> that pacify things that get caught in them 11:22 <[Demo]> so now they can not be shit 11:23 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44123 11:26 <@april_fools_name_here> YASI: 'healing blast' spell, it's basically just fireball but with healing instead of fire 11:26 -!- mpt| has joined #hardfought 11:27 <[Demo]> im thinking of letting extra healing do healing blasts at skilled and up 11:27 <@rikersan> I think that's a bad idea 11:29 <@rikersan> YANI: extra healing, cure sick/blind are now the same spell (and lvl 6) 11:30 <@kritixilithos> do shopkeepers get angry at you for casting healing on them? 11:30 <@rikersan> extra healing is basically now a unicorn horn (that cures sliem as well) 11:30 <@rikersan> nope kritixi 11:30 <@rikersan> just tested 11:31 <@rikersan> go tubs go 11:32 <[Demo]> god this is dumb 11:32 <@Tone> Extra healing already cures blindness even 11:33 <@Tone> Cure blindness is borderline useless 11:33 <@Tone> I'm not sure if I've ever used it 11:33 <@rikersan> yeah 11:33 <@rikersan> I've already suggested that be merged into extra healing 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:45871 11:34 <[Demo]> extra healing has its place 11:34 <@rikersan> but cure blindness doesn't 11:34 <[Demo]> so does restore abil in variants that nerf unihorn 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45872 11:34 <[Demo]> merge cure blindnessand cure sickness 11:34 <[Demo]> cure malady 11:34 <[Demo]> acts like unihorn 11:34 <[Demo]> without the restoreabil 11:35 healing only cure others' blndness 11:35 K2: not at home 11:36 ok 11:36 <@rikersan> [YANI for the collector] 11:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:621 11:38 <[Demo]> hmm this syringe healing pacifying thing probably breaks the healer protection racket 11:41 <@rikersan> yes 11:45 xnh makes cure blindness not randomly generate (this is a stopgap measure) 11:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 7630 points, T:1580, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:45 <@rikersan> i got the priest tho 11:46 <[Demo]> good job 11:46 <@rikersan> ty demo <3 11:54 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Mon Elf Fem Cha) received Orcrist from Huan Ti, on T:1617 11:54 great gift 12:03 <@rikersan> !lastgame tubs 12:03 @rikersan: [hdf-us] No last game for tubs on this server. 12:03 @rikersan: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tubs/dnethack/dumplog/1522682271.dnh.txt 12:03 <@rikersan> rip 12:03 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:45885 12:05 rip indeed, I had a shield of reflection too, but no 1h weapon with it :( 12:05 <@rikersan> rip 12:07 -!- mpt| has quit [] 12:14 <[Demo]> i like how ndnh changes are just reused code 12:14 <@rikersan> demo is there an online version of ndnh? 12:15 no 12:15 it is still a baby 12:16 notredyfor thebig and scary world 12:16 of nethack servers 12:16 <[Demo]> yeah 12:17 <[Demo]> we're still trying to turn crossbow bolts into syringes over here 12:20 <[Demo]> ok now ive balanced healer in a way so stupid no one else would or ever will do it 12:20 <@rikersan> how.. 12:20 <[Demo]> they start with a crossbow bolt and some syringes 12:20 <[Demo]> when they shoot shit with a syringe it does fuck all damage 12:20 <@rikersan> crossbow bolt and some syringes? 12:20 <@rikersan> or a crossbow 12:20 <[Demo]> it also causes a healing explosion 12:21 <[Demo]> crossbow oops 12:21 <[Demo]> no crossbow bolts 12:21 <[Demo]> but when shit gets caught in the explosion it is pacified 12:21 <@rikersan> huh 12:21 <[Demo]> like made peaceful 12:21 <@rikersan> is amy here 12:21 <[Demo]> so they shoot shit with their crossbow syringes and they get turned peaceful in the blast 12:21 <[Demo]> but thats not all 12:22 <[Demo]> cause the healer can also take crossbow bolts they find laying around 12:22 <@rikersan> !tell LarienTelrunya so how long is gehennom exactly in slex? I want to know how much longer tariru needs to keep doing this >_> 12:22 Will do, @rikersan! 12:22 <[Demo]> and turn them into syringes 12:22 <@rikersan> how? 12:22 <[Demo]> #monster 12:22 <@rikersan> dipping into pot of helaing? 12:22 <@rikersan> oh nice 12:22 <[Demo]> choose s option 12:22 <[Demo]> pick some bolts 12:22 <[Demo]> get to do it for free 12:22 <@rikersan> sounds like a use for #technique really 12:22 <[Demo]> theres no techniques 12:22 <[Demo]> this is dnh 12:22 <@rikersan> ik 12:22 <[Demo]> i keep trying to use #technique 12:23 <[Demo]> when testing it 12:23 <@rikersan> lol 12:24 <[Demo]> anyway i cant imagine how easy this is gonna make the protection racket 12:27 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Wendy O. Koopa, on T:99653 12:27 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:46867 12:27 <@rikersan> @le?wendy o. kooba 12:27 wendy o. kooba ~1~ Wendy O. Koopa (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 33 | Spd: 16 | Res: sleep disintegrate poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 kick physical, 2d6 trample amulet steal, 2d6 spit level drain | Alignment: -13 | Flags: omnivore, phases, nopoly, stalker 12:28 <[Demo]> i think slex goes 100 deep 12:28 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:28 <[Demo]> get the amulet 12:28 <[Demo]> then climb up the wizards tower another 100 to get shit imbued 12:28 <[Demo]> then go back down and then back up and then win 12:28 <@rikersan> is it exactly 100? 12:28 <@rikersan> hm ok 12:28 <[Demo]> I think 12:28 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed crystal pick", on T:46873 12:29 <[Demo]> whats a crystal pick? 12:29 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 Magicbane", on T:46873 12:30 -!- Winsalot has joined #hardfought 12:31 <[Demo]> im kind of surprised by the lack of artifacts named after tf2 weapons in modern variants 12:31 My solution to the protection racket is to scale protection costs based on how many times you've already purchased protection. 12:31 -!- Winsalot has quit [Client Quit] 12:31 -!- mpt| has joined #hardfought 12:32 [Demo] crystal pick is unnethack/dynahack only 12:32 lighter faster much stronger fooproof pick 12:33 you can either obtain one by clearing sheol or by wishing for it 12:34 <[Demo]> ahh lighter 12:34 great weapon for an arc if they get an early wish 12:35 they do a lot of damage and are one handed 12:35 <[Demo]> oh nice 12:35 <[Demo]> offhand for grays? 12:35 sure 12:35 <[Demo]> hmm how do i justify adding a crossbow artifact for healer 12:36 <[Demo]> oh wait they dont even get a first sac gift 12:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:46340 12:39 go hothraxxa! 12:40 -!- tubs has quit [Quit: *poof*] 12:40 -!- tubs has joined #hardfought 12:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:46364 12:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:46382 12:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) averted death, on T:100094 12:48 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:47946 12:49 I just built a tower for my own little wizard! :3 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2728847 points, T:46396, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1521998502.xnh.txt 12:49 \o/ 12:50 well that was weird 12:50 Congrats :) 12:50 ty 12:50 Mortal, thou hast done well! 12:50 my altar had no attending high priestess of tyr 12:50 there was a high priestess but not one of tyr's 12:50 i suspect one of my works got her 12:51 er worms 12:51 Possible. 12:51 also, on the plane of water, i dropped a scare monster scroll and just waited 12:51