00:02 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 00:05 -!- emar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:06 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) received Vorpal Blade from Camaxtli, on T:15096 00:11 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:12 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 00:21 [hdf-us] [slex] Rune (Mah Hum Mal Neu), 680 points, T:2874, killed by a fumarole spores 00:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 00:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:43797 00:52 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:45734 01:09 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) received Cleaver from Camaxtli, on T:17850 01:12 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 43340 points, T:2368, killed by a dingo 01:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:44140 01:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:27 -!- _zigma has quit [] 01:28 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the wizard of ahrimen, the former Evoker, on T:1520 01:28 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 60315 points, T:21872, killed by a wolf 01:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 35701 points, T:2307, killed by a black unicorn 01:35 RIP 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic marker", on T:44296 01:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:59 <@luxidream> lmao 01:59 <@luxidream> I walk into sanctum 01:59 <@luxidream> high priest has a wand of death 01:59 <@luxidream> instantly annihilates himself 02:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "fixed uncursed magic marker", on T:45480 02:08 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:09 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:13 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] Ga1ahad (Luxidream) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 290090 points, T:51387, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack4/dumplog/2018-03-25%2006%3A15%3A16%2C%20Ga1ahad-Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 02:15 <@luxidream> gg 02:26 <@Maelrawn> so is a magic marker quite literally magic? Is that why I see them get wished for frequently? 02:29 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:31 It's pretty magical 02:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:55 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:51345 02:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 03:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:51635 03:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:47063 03:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] noty (Hea Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11197 04:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:49104 04:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 38960 points, T:5065, killed by a white unicorn 05:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] noty (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Cerberus, on T:15526 05:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] noty (Hea Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:16047 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 11070 points, T:4162, killed by a dart 05:36 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:51 [hdf-us] [nh] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3444 points, T:3130, killed by a soldier ant 06:17 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:25 . 06:25 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2018-03-24 20:26 EDT: here's one thing I think slex does well (mainly from others' accounts): it seems like there's never a dull moment, with no featureless rooms or bland levels with nothing but more popcorn monsters. 06:26 !tell aosdict yeah, that's one of my main problems with non-slex variants, the dungeon seems so barren! when entering a new level there's maybe 3-4 monsters tops, new ones respawn very slowly, and worst of all there's at most one special room per level (if at all)! 06:26 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 06:34 !who 06:34 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Kej [nd] Rune [dnh] 06:34 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] elenmirie [xnh] lynn [xnh] 06:34 awwwwwww such a fleecy Lynn ♥ 06:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 07:01 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:01 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- emar has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:15 aosdict: there's a wonky secret door in the Cavegnome quest locate level. Is that from 361? 07:15 I previously reported a similar one on the Cavegnome quest home level, which is now fixed 07:31 elenmirie: how is it wonky 07:31 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-25 06:26 EDT: yeah, that's one of my main problems with non-slex variants, the dungeon seems so barren! when entering a new level there's maybe 3-4 monsters tops, new ones respawn very slowly, and worst of all there's at most one special room per level (if at all)! 07:31 I see two in the map. 07:32 aosdict: it shows as the wrong direction of wall tile when it is hidden. In this case, it was a vertical tile in a horizontal wall 07:32 Strangely, there's only one DOOR command. 07:32 is this the one in the center or in the bottom right? 07:32 this is a bug I've seen in 361 before, and Pat Rankin has fixed it in a few other places 07:32 bottom right 07:32 If you haven't changed anything, I'll just let the devteam know 07:33 I haven't, but I want to see if I can figure out why 07:33 okay 07:33 I first saw it in the catacombs mines end, with they fixed. Then I saw it in the caver quest home level, which they fixed (and said that the first fix caused that problem) 07:35 I see a weird |, but it's not where the secret door is, it's three squares directly to its right. Do you see this? 07:37 I think that's just a wall 07:37 OK, never mind. 07:37 and for the record, the other secret door in the centre is showing fine 07:37 that is, not showing :p 07:38 Tell Pat that the DOOR command for that secret door is missing and if it is added back in at (63,16), the wall displays properly. 07:38 okay 07:39 Then again, maybe they're going for something where they don't want you to have to put a DOOR for every + and S on the map. 07:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:53249 07:51 morning 07:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 robe", on T:53336 07:59 elenmirie: since you're playing Cav, do you think the locate/lower fill/goal levels would be improved by visible scratched/burnt engravings representing random signs of the Chromatic Dragon? No text, just things like "///" and "\|/" 07:59 yeah, that would add some flavour 07:59 and match the description 08:04 \o/ 08:06 weeeee 08:15 hmm Orcus and Juiblex don't even rate mentions in fourk's livelog :/ 08:19 Hmm a 28x10 room containing full of skeletons, shades, priests, vampire lords and demiliches. This can't possibly go wrong. 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 460 points, T:967, killed by a giant rat 08:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 3137 points, T:1993, killed by a water moccasin 08:19 What are those priests doing consorting with the undead?! 08:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tmasher (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1422 points, T:3766, killed by a leather golem 08:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:32 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 08:35 !who 08:35 FIQ: [hdf-us] Kej [nd] Rune [dnh] Tangles [4k] 08:35 FIQ: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] winsalot [fh] 08:35 hi 08:35 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 08:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:54683 08:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:50 K2: pushed a couple small features 09:06 !tell K2 pushed a minor fix 09:06 Will do, FIQ! 09:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2673027 points, T:55217, escaped 09:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4888 points, T:3359, killed by a killer bee 09:22 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:29 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:23086 09:41 YANI: Do the same thing with trees and fruits that I did with rings and sinks. Rather than using a "looted" level flag, generate the tree's fruits along with the tree and store them on the level (maybe buried, for code purposes, so that it'll show on object detection but not by just looking at the tree?). When you kick or chop down the tree, the fruits are then revealed and dropped. 09:42 Would be nice partly because it makes it easy to have only some trees generate fruit, rather than any tree anywhere. 09:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Pri Inc Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed greased fixed +3 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:1172 09:42 aosdict: you might also want to look at slex's tree implementation, where not every tree gives fruit either ;) 09:43 I suppose if you just want a % of trees to not generate fruit, you could randomly set the fruit looted flag when generating the tree. But it'd be nice to have some way of telling which trees have fruit and which don't. 09:44 [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha), 25620 points, T:23452, killed by a gryphon 09:44 in slex, kicking a tree that has no fruit says "The tree's branches are swinging, but apparently it doesn't bear any fruit." 09:44 YANI: Rarely a tree can produce slime mold "fruit". 09:44 leh 09:44 *bleh 09:45 LarienTelrunya: kind of a long message, I would shorten it 09:45 one more hit... *then* I'll escape. 09:46 !lastgame 09:46 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nhfourk/dumps/2018-03-25%2013%3A44%3A05%2C%20Tangles-Wiz-Syl-Fem-Cha%2C%20died.txt 09:46 Tangles: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1521899665.slex.txt 09:46 "The branches tremble." perhaps 09:46 as long as it's unambiguous 09:48 YANI: Levelporting will try to put you on the part of a level you have mapped. Levelporting to a level you have never visited may fail and levelport you randomly, except in wizard mode. 10:04 <@riker> !lastgame tariru 10:04 @riker: [hdf-us] No last game for tariru on this server. 10:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3300 points, T:6200, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:11 <@riker> is that artifact literally useless amy 10:11 <@riker> wtf 10:11 nope, it will unlock petkeeping skill if you get it as a god gift :P 10:16 <@riker> ah 10:24 [hdf-us] [slex] Tmasher (Unb Asg Mal Law), 1487 points, T:1893, killed by a monster (river moccasin) 10:24 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:26 <@riker> phew amy didn't get banisher by the large mimic banisher 10:27 lucky :) 10:27 Elronnd got banished to level 92 yesterday *and survived* 10:27 yay 10:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Pri Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4023 10:28 <@riker> wut 10:29 riker: what happened? 10:30 <@riker> ? 10:30 <@riker> that was at elronnd 10:30 <@riker> but anyawy now I'm off 10:30 <@riker> o/ 10:31 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 10:32 noooooou! come back riker :( 10:32 my roommate brought ice-cream, I have to watch someone now because I can't play while eating :P 10:32 you can watch Tariru 10:32 ah, great, I'll do that :) 10:33 !who 10:33 FIQ: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] Tmasher [dnh] Rune [dnh] ttc1401 [un] 10:33 FIQ: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] 10:36 -!- Tmasher has joined #hardfought 10:44 -!- Tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 10:49 [hdf-us] [un] ttc1401 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1957 points, T:2908, killed by a killer bee 10:51 Tariru: is there a particular reason for not advancing the devices skill? it allows your wands to sometimes not lose a charge when zapped 10:51 I'm waiting to make sure I have enough skill slots to bump up ranged weapons another couple of times first. 10:51 <[Demo]> probably ignorance. u cant expect ppl to know how to play slex. thats just absurd 10:51 <[Demo]> also knowing slex it would probably also randomly add bad effects 10:51 Plus I'd like to put another skill point in firearms too. 10:52 ah, I see 10:53 I'm not quite sure how many skill slots I have left. I probably should have enough for all of them, but I can't be certain. 10:53 #enhance shows how many you have 10:53 Oh, I never noticed that before. 10:53 Yeah, I've got plenty then., 10:53 25 slots left 10:53 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:53 and every advancement only uses up one, even when going from master to grand master :) 10:53 Do you get more than one slot each level up then? 10:53 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:53 yes, you get 2 per level up, for a total of 58 10:54 Oh, that's pretty generous then, I should have no problem enhancing everything. 11:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Extra Fleecy Bundle, on T:54937 11:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:37 @le?nosferafu 11:37 nosferafu ~1~ nosferatu (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 gaze paralyze | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, undead, stalker, infravisible 11:39 @le?great katcher 11:39 No such monster. 11:40 the bot is out of date, sadly :( 11:40 it doesn't know about monster types that were added recently 11:41 FIQhack updated (us and eu) 11:41 K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-03-25 09:06 EDT: pushed a minor fix 11:41 Do they have a stealing attack, or anything else that is nasty? 11:41 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 11:42 I need to stay blind on the level, since something has a paralysis gaze. 11:43 great katcher only has a plain 2d24 melee attack 11:43 <@ahrimen> has any seen this problem before? It only happens on my desktop. It's almost as if tabs are not working 11:43 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/427492815581216794/fiqHack.png 11:44 <@ahrimen> ubuntu 17.10 11:44 <@ahrimen> while ssh'ing into hardfought. 11:44 <@ahrimen> And this does not happen on my laptop, Ubuntu 16.04 11:45 @ahrimen I've never seen that before 11:46 <@ahrimen> i'm sure its a terminal setting, I thought it may have been font size but that doesn't seem to change it 11:57 @le?baal subject mummy 11:57 baal subject mummy (M) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 8 | Res: cold sleep poison magic drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 75 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 11d4 claw physical, 10d4 breath drain str, 10d4 cast magic missile | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous, nopoly, undead 12:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Christiane, on T:55479 12:02 Tariru: How's slex going? 12:02 @le?Christiane 12:02 Christiane (W) | Lvl: 28 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold disintegrate shock petrification magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 99 | Generates: unique | AC: -20 | Attacks: 5d6 weapon random breath, 3d4 kick physical, 3d3 gaze calm | Alignment: 5 | Flags: omnivore, unsolid, nopoly, stalker 12:02 Not too bad, I've reached the castle. It's kind of interesting with the huge amount of new monsters. 12:03 Heh 12:03 Though all these gaze attacks are kind of annoying, especially as I'm blocked from ever getting free action this game. 12:03 What is the 9,5^? 12:03 It's a genetic trap on the staircase. I think genetic trap is the same as a poly trap 12:03 Ah 12:04 genetic trap is a poly trap with the difference that monsters which would rarely be selected by normal polytraps are common instead 12:04 Normally, I don't think even slex would put a trap on staircases, but a monster with a trapping special attack hit me. 12:04 magic resistance still offers full protection from them ;) 12:05 eat magic missile biatch :P 12:07 and another gnome unique falls to the magic missiles! 12:18 @?le improper muffler versification 12:18 No such monster. 12:18 @le? amenity improper muffler versification 12:18 No such monster. 12:18 it's level 31 and will explode to put you to sleep (you're resistant, I hope?) 12:19 Yeah, got sleep res already. 12:19 <@Maurog> if you can't find the monster, maybe you are the monster 12:19 It still has a chance to push through resistance though, doesn't it? 12:19 yes 12:21 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Selinger, on T:55871 12:29 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Sabrina, on T:56015 12:38 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 12:42 @le?walking stick blubberer 12:42 No such monster. 12:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Pri Inc Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 The Garnet Rod", on T:12579 12:53 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:30926 12:53 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30927 12:53 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Annika, on T:56236 13:02 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:03 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:04 @?le ankaris 13:04 No such monster. 13:04 @?le anakaris 13:04 No such monster. 13:05 mummy with arcane spellcasting 13:10 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 13:14 FIQ, coming back after awhile, looks like FIQHack replaced failure rates with more power required if metal armor? 13:15 Yes. 13:16 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 13:17 NCommander: specifically, the Pw cost is divided by what used to be the success rate. 13:17 @le?baal cold mage 13:17 baal cold mage (Z) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 33 | Spd: 13 | Res: cold sleep shock poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d14 touch cold, 1d14 touch slow, 1d14 cast spell | Alignment: 0 | Flags: breathless, mindless, thick hide, undead 13:17 huh 13:18 So since metal armor reduces success rate, it increases Pw cost. 13:18 So if I have enough power, I could hypothetically cast anything as any class? 13:18 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 13:18 So basically, advancing a skill now changes the effects and Pw costs but that's about it? 13:18 Yes but consider that a 99% fail spell will take 100x as much Pw to cast. 13:19 and a 90% fail spell will take 10x, which is also a lot. 13:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 13:19 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Client Quit] 13:19 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 13:21 Tariru: @?le ankaris is searching unnethack for a monster called 'le ankaris' 13:21 @le?ankaris 13:21 ankaris ~1~ Anakaris (M) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: special | AC: 3 | Attacks: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 2d2 cast spell | Alignment: -7 | Flags: breathless, poisonous, undead 13:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:43148 13:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2190 points, T:3654, killed by a water moccasin 13:21 Ah, thanks. 13:22 [hdf-us] [fh] NCommander (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 33715 points, T:3329, killed by a wolf 13:22 Didn't realise I had the query wrong. 13:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 13:22 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:30 Elronnd: Fear the power of Le Ankaris! 13:34 please 13:34 l'Ankaris 13:34 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:40 !WHO 13:40 FIQ: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh4] Elronnd [slex] redshirt [nd] hothraxxa [xnh] k2 [xnh] krm26 [xnh] 13:40 FIQ: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex] churine [fh] winsalot [fh] 13:41 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:43846 13:48 <@Winsalot> Had pretty good game yesterday 13:48 <@Winsalot> Until I started quest, killed my quest leader and petrified myself 😃 13:51 eep how come? 13:52 rip 13:52 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 13:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:53 <@Winsalot> Still got further than ever before 13:53 <@Winsalot> So it's fine 13:56 <@Winsalot> Btw I wonder if in some cases it's better to use standard weapons with object properies instead of artifacts in fh. 13:56 <@Winsalot> Like on roles that can get only basic skill for said artifacts 13:59 <@Winsalot> Like frost flail expert vs frost brand basic on priest 13:59 @le?found soul 13:59 found soul ~3~ gaunt soul (8) | Lvl: 35 | Diff: 40 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d4 bite Famine, 2d4 bite Famine, 2d4 touch Famine, 2d4 gaze magic drain | Alignment: -5 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, vegan 13:59 @le?beautiful found soul 13:59 No such monster. 14:02 <@luxidream> @Winsalot expert only gives +3 to-hit and +2 damage 14:02 <@luxidream> frost brand is double damage as opposed to +1d6, it would do more 14:03 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:05 !lastgame 14:05 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Elronnd/slex/dumplog/1521996706.slex.txt 14:05 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winsalot/fiqhack/dumplog/2018-03-25%2016%3A43%3A14%2C%20Losesalot-Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 14:06 K2: can you unsuppress my deaths from being reported? 14:06 you can do it yourself 14:07 setmintc command 14:07 !setmintc 10 14:07 Elronnd: Min reported turncount for elronnd set to 10 14:10 <@Winsalot> 😦 instadeath 😦 14:11 @Winsalot also frost brand gives cold immunity 14:11 TROPHY GET! 14:14 <@Winsalot> Anyway, been dying with chaotic priest a lot. Ready to try out other alignments. 14:14 <@Winsalot> Is there some generl opinion at what alignment priests are strongest? 14:15 Neutral priests have the best artiwishes I guess 14:16 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:16 <@Winsalot> Which ones are those? 14:16 <@Winsalot> Mjllnir? 14:18 No, neutral QAs. 14:18 EotA, Staff, EotO, PYEC 14:22 -!- _zigma has joined #hardfought 14:23 <_zigma> that minetown priest has ruined my day again 14:23 <_zigma> ffs 14:24 <_zigma> he's lawful-aligned, and he killed my neutral character who had Mjollnir and Frost Brand 14:24 <_zigma> i recovered that character as a bones file, converted the altar back to lawful 14:24 <_zigma> then i made the mistake of #chatting to the priest 14:24 <_zigma> he lost his shit for no reason 14:25 <_zigma> multiple scrolls of teleport and my large cat and large dog weren't enough to save me 14:25 <_zigma> i'm so fucking mad i could throw 14:25 <_zigma> something 14:26 :/ 14:27 <_zigma> WHY IS HE SO F*CKING POWERFUL 14:27 <_zigma> AND ANGRY 14:27 <_zigma> AND FAST 14:27 if the priest was scared for any reason, chatting them can anger them 14:28 <_zigma> he should have been grateful for my restoring his temple 14:29 <@luxidream> law priests get excal 14:29 <_zigma> i mean, if this game ran on logic instead of cruelty 14:30 <@luxidream> if the altar has already been converted, chatting will always anger him 14:46 LarienTelrunya: does slex have the character able to get prion disease from eating uncooked meat? 14:47 heh, nope, slex doesn't even have cooking 14:50 Yeah, but you could give the characters prion disease anyway. 14:50 what would that do in game terms? 14:51 kill them (but slowly)? 14:51 raisse: Message from aosdict at 2018-03-24 14:49 EDT: if you step on the water with m and do not fall in, and are not flying or levitating or anything, your boots must be water walking. So they do self-identify. 14:51 this is slex, something like a sudden "You die of a prion disease contracted 28348 turns ago" is routine 14:51 aosdict: thanks, I was almost convinced of that but it's nice to have confirmation 14:52 :D 14:52 aosdict: you should play slex at least once, that way you'll see it's not nearly as bad as you think *bundlebundlebundle!* 14:53 I did, don't you remember? 14:53 oh, sorry, I must have forgotten 14:53 "Velkommen, hothraxxa! I was looking for Luxidream." 14:53 I was permanently hallucinating, none of my scrolls did anything, and I died by stumbling into a wall or something. 14:53 someone was a bad boy 14:53 lol... aosdict: should have picked an orc barbarian or other "sane" combo ;) 14:53 Some infrared liquid flows from the faucet. Magical energies course through your body. 14:54 LarienTelrunya: what's the fun in that when I could let the game decide for me 14:54 drinking from sinks while hallucinating is hilarious 14:54 it's risky. 14:54 if you play slex long enough, slex will also play you 14:54 bhaak: I know but I'm only fooling around anyway 14:54 oh, I thought you were talking to me 14:54 raisse: that, too :) 14:54 I'm not playing slex, I'm fooling around in xnh 14:55 <@luxidream> oh, I was trying to see if low level wizards could kill shopkeeps 14:55 <@luxidream> because they clear out the watch ez 14:55 <@luxidream> got destroyed 14:55 raisse: hallucination is a second layer of the game, that has so many funny and cunning properties. but because nobody ever plays it, it goes mostly unnoticed 14:55 Wait! There's a hobbit hiding under an uncursed gnome corpse! 14:56 You produce elevator music. 14:56 You fall into the water. You sink like the Titanic. 14:57 Your keel hits the bottom. 14:57 lol yes 14:58 I wonder how many people have seen those messages. I certainly saw most of them but only because I've been translation the game. 14:59 there can't be that many people who have looked at every string in the game. 14:59 i'm hoping for a permahallu option in vanilla sometime, like the zen one 14:59 I think I got the elevator music once 14:59 not the Titanic though 14:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:59 usually I stay away from really dangerous places (like water) while hallucinating 15:00 understandable :-) 15:00 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 15:02 I don't know, is there any perma_hallu ascension in a variant that supports it? 15:09 bhaak: I'll add it eventually. It's too funny not to. 15:12 @le?haunt 15:12 haunt (8) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 touch drain int, 1d6 touch wisdom, 1d6 gaze confuse, 1d6 gaze blind | Alignment: -5 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, poisonous, undead, stalker, vegan 15:15 <@mictf> Continuing my FIQHack Archaeologist run in 5m! Just entered Ft. Ludios 😄 http://twitch.tv/mtf39 15:15 :O who is this mictf impostor 15:16 [hdf-us] [un] ranlhach (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:26486 15:19 <@mictf> inside joke hehe 15:20 -!- jrad55 has joined #hardfought 15:21 -!- jrad55 has left #hardfought 15:22 -!- jared55 has joined #hardfought 15:26 Tariru: I'm aware that the monster density your facing is abnormal; it will be toned down in the next version. Sorry about it, I should have been more thorough with testing 15:27 Yes, it seems like they're spawning as fast as I can kill them. 15:28 Presumably because I just went over the turn count to ramp up monster spawns? 15:28 it's because of the floor of the crypt tiles (blue dots); each of them has a 1 in 10 chance to have a cursed grave, which spawns undead again and again 15:28 Ah. 15:28 I'll make that 1 in 50 for the next version and also greatly reduce the rate at which they spawn new undead 15:29 Can you destroy them with a pick axe then? Or scrolls of X terrain? 15:29 pick-axe would work, but IIRC the castle has undiggable floor; terrain scrolls doesn't affect them 15:29 the cursed graves will eventually "run out" and stop spawning undead, but that takes a long while 15:30 Is it a run out in terms of number of turns, or the number of undead they spawn? 15:30 number of undead; actually, every time they spawn one, there is a 1 in 50 chance that they run out 15:31 it's also a 1 in 50 chance per turn that such a trap spawns an undead monster, I'll have to change that to something like 1 in 250 15:31 maybe even 1 in 500 15:32 actually, I wonder if I should deliver a hotfix? that will not get rid of the undead and cursed graves already in your game, but it will slow down their spawn rate in your game 15:32 fiq would push that fix in about 30 minutes 15:32 challenge... accepted? 15:33 !8ball shall I make such a hotfix to make slex less unbalanced? 15:33 LarienTelrunya: Yes definitely 15:33 it is decided then :D 15:33 <[Demo]> what issue? 15:33 cursed graves being too common and spawning too many undead (look at Tariru's game, it's insane) 15:33 That might be helpful. It looks like I've got several hundred crypt tiles there, with an average of 50 undead in each, I'll have to slay thousands of them before this stops. 15:34 <[Demo]> wow 15:35 yeah, as I said, I didn't test this enough; slex is still a WIP project, after all 15:35 I'm guessing this was just a random replacement of castle walls with cursed graves, and it isn't always like that? 15:35 yes, slex occasionally replaces the walls with random terrain 15:36 unfortunately some terrain types are initialized with monsters, or in this case monster-generating traps, and that can get very unbalanced if a lot of such tiles are on a level 15:36 solution: nerf the density of such monsters on those terrain types, hard! :D 15:36 mictf: you can't die by falling into a pit that has a c corpse 15:40 !tell K2 pushed an important game balance fix for slex 15:40 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 15:41 [hdf-us] [slex] Tmasher (Pol Imp Mal Law), 601 points, T:582, killed by a monster (mini vampire) 15:41 Tariru: once slex is updated, the cursed graves will at least spawn new stuff 10 times more slowly 15:41 that's the part that will affect your castle level; unfortunately the update won't remove all those cursed graves though 15:41 That should be a lot more manageable. 15:41 fun to watch though 15:42 I probably could clear it all like this, but it would take a long time. 15:42 yeah, especially since aggravate monster makes it so that the things spawned by cursed graves are often out of depth undead 15:43 Oh, that makes it extra fun for me since I got stuck with that intrinsicly. 15:43 what was I thinking when I designed it like that??? I should have made sure it creates a sane amount of cursed graves and those have a sane monster spawn rate... 15:44 It's probably not too bad if you get them on a normal room/corridor level, or a maze. 15:44 LarienTelrunya: am I observing sanity? from YOU??? 15:44 another change is that levels with ice/air/clouds will also be seeded with less monsters now 15:45 On the subject of terrain, is there a reason why the spellbook of growth takes a good chunk of max MP when you cast it? 15:45 I wouldn't have thought making trees needed to be balanced by anything. 15:45 the trees can be used to completely prevent certain monsters from reaching you 15:46 that said, I should probably lessen the amount of max mana those terrain spells will take off 15:48 aosdict: slex is supposed to be a balanced game, so if it gets too insane in a "the player just has no chance" way, I may have to put the brakes on and rectify it. 15:49 :D 15:49 In comparison, enchant armor only takes off 1 max MP, and only when it works, which seems almost free. 15:50 Yeah, it's on my to-do list :) 15:51 [hdf-us] [fh] Jared (Jared55) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 34435 points, T:1667, killed by a golden naga hatchling, while fainted from lack of food 15:52 anyway, I think I'll be on my other PC and do some actual work on the next slex version, because I want to get stuff done on it; the sooner a new release version is ready, the better! 15:52 Hmm, 3.6.1's goodpos showing valid targets works on stinking clouds and on jumping, but not on skilled fireball. 15:52 FIQ: if you want to tackle another 3.6.1 refactor involving callbacks, you could do ^ :D 15:53 good luck Tariru! hopefully you'll be able to handle those annoying undead once the server is updated! :) 15:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: one day slex shall be well-balanced!] 15:54 FIQ: getpos refactor rather than getobj refactor? :P 16:09 ok 16:09 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-25 15:40 EDT: pushed an important game balance fix for slex 16:11 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 16:16 <_zigma> so i just found the bones again 16:16 <_zigma> this time it was my old pets that killed me off 16:17 <_zigma> they respected a fire-engraved Elbereth, until they didn't 16:18 <_zigma> i can't find the bones file so it looks like those characters have finally been laid to rest 16:20 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class ;), on T:35522 16:20 you playing on NAO _zigma? 16:20 [hdf-us] [fh] Jared (Jared55) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 12527 points, T:163, killed by a jackal 16:21 lol crap 16:21 you have to read the books right from the beginning now? 16:21 oh damn really? 16:21 <_zigma> nah playing local 16:21 not that I'm aware of... 16:21 FIQ: wizards dont start the game already knowing their spells? 16:21 (FIQhack) 16:22 been awhile since i played but shift z and i can only call for help 16:22 pray8 16:22 PRAY* 16:23 * aosdict prays for jared55 16:27 and you can only read every book once oh no 16:28 <_zigma> just found a randomly generated Snickersnee 16:28 <_zigma> now what use is my priest gonna make of that! 16:29 2nd floor bookstore its on 16:31 K2: indeed 16:31 it was either that, or make them not start with spellbooks at all 16:31 because of the changed spellbook durations 16:32 FIQ: I'd argue that after 60000 turns, a wizard is probably likely to have found that book anyway 16:32 whats the changed spellbook durations? 16:32 60k turns 16:32 aosdict: can you elaborate on what 3.6.1 does with getpos 16:32 besides NH3 getpos in general being a huge mess 16:33 which I was actually looking at the other day to figure out how to deal with the hover text 16:33 so they wont forget a spell until after 60k turns? 16:33 the NH3 engine isn't friendly to windowports with multiple lines :( 16:33