00:00 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 00:12 !tell aosdict possible minor bug? I found a door, opened it, was booby-trapped, received this message 'An electric spark from the doorknob zaps you! The door opens.' - I'm wearing a ring of shock resistance, yet I still took some damage 00:12 Will do, K2! 00:16 btw aosdict, the door trap that dumps water on you is pretty fuckin nasty - it just blanked out half of my spellbooks, 3/4 of my scrolls and diluted almost every single potion i had IN MY BAG 00:19 K2: shock resistance cuts damage by 75%, not entirely. 00:19 aosdict: Message from K2 at 2018-03-18 00:12 EDT: possible minor bug? I found a door, opened it, was booby-trapped, received this message 'An electric spark from the doorknob zaps you! The door opens.' - I'm wearing a ring of shock resistance, yet I still took some damage 00:20 thats a water hazard you cant even see or try to avoid - even if you search every single door for traps and find a trap, you still dont know what kind of trap it is 00:20 not in general, just for that trap. 00:20 surprised FIQ hasnt tried to kill you yet 00:20 Hmm, perhaps water_damage_chain is a bit, uh, industrial grade? 00:21 well 00:21 you enable paranoid water 00:21 and then take 2 steps back with this trap ;) 00:21 Since it's supposed to be a pretty minor trap, could rig up some function that scales it with level difficulty, so that on early levels it wets only 1 thing 00:22 hey stuff out in open iventory, i get it, fair game 00:22 Also, I intend for you to be able to see what sort of trap a door is trapped with, just haven't added it yet. 00:22 but a bucket of water blanking almost everything in a bag? 00:22 K2: that's not an intended consequence. 00:22 ok... just checking 00:22 i was about to say 'hey aosict added an EPI' ;) 00:23 Yeah, I probably should ditch using the existing function and make something tamer. Or make water_damage_chain take more arguments. Or something. 00:24 perhaps 00:24 as i said, stuff in open inventory, i get it 00:24 but wow 00:24 heh 00:24 ok, am wiped out from skiing, need to sleep 00:25 where do you ski? 00:25 (my wife is going tomorrow morning) 00:26 gnite aosdict 00:27 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:40 -!- rrnH9VWAS has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- rrnH9VWAS has quit [Client Quit] 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 63044 points, T:15103, killed by a death ray 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 28513 points, T:1846, killed by Juiblex, while sleeping 01:26 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of MiseryMyra, the former Fighter, on T:6117 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 34374 points, T:2798, killed by a boiling potion 01:41 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:50 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 01:51 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:01 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:02 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31452 02:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:11 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:12 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 02:19 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 56308 points, T:8742, killed by a jabberwock 02:22 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 02:23 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 02:26 -!- realinari has quit [Client Quit] 02:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:36487 02:28 In case you think that's weird, I'm using a HoOA to pick it up 02:30 don't you run into the "can't use other role's quest artifact" bug/nerf? 02:31 the thing that made me stop liking lawful priest because using the Sceptre of Might was virtually impossible 02:32 raisse, that bug has been solved 02:32 ah 02:32 and you don't need to "use" the MMoM, just carry it 02:32 might play lawful priestesses again :-) 02:32 lvl 24 before i see my first unicorn 02:32 heh 02:32 the RNG is making this game a rough one 02:32 of course the SoM is a weapon so I wanted to wield it 02:33 raisse, as at first I thought that arti bug was intentional 02:33 but happy it is gone now 02:33 yes, I thought it was intentional too, just the kind of pointless nerf that seems to pervade 3.6.0 02:34 "I, member of the Dev Team, personally don't like this feature so nobody gets to use it" 02:35 (that's probably overly bitter, lots of things are better in 3.6 imo) 02:35 yeah 95% of changes I like 02:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:36 -!- stenno is now known as Guest97402 02:40 -!- Guest97402 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 02:47 -!- realinari has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:36649 03:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:36651 03:19 <@Pavel> (xNetHack) I was just standing on a new corpse and pressed e, at which point instead of asking if I wanted to eat the corpse it immedietly asked me to pick an item from my inventory. Selecting . let me eat the corpse, but I wonder why the change. 03:26 getobj() function was refactored into xnethack 03:26 its similar behavior found in nh4 based variants 03:27 <@Pavel> I think I prefer the old way 03:27 https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/a26c262dee423f723587e5ef33a6c735e04c1af1 03:27 i kinda do as well 03:28 but supposedly there are benefits to this patch 03:28 you'd have to ask aosdict and FIQ 03:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:39118 03:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:39120 03:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pavel (Val Dwa Fem Law), 644 points, T:1836, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:35 <@Pavel> fokin' eyes 03:36 <@Pavel> My kitten just got instantly killed by a trap on turn 2 03:37 ugh 04:08 sometimes a reason to quit, for me 04:25 rip 04:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:42231 04:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42232 04:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Pavel (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7747 points, T:6570, killed by a gargoyle 04:44 <@Pavel> WOO! Fathest I've ever gotten, to DLVL 11 04:47 <@kritixilithos> noice 04:47 <@kritixilithos> and yeah, gargoyles hit really hard 04:47 <@Pavel> I lost like 30 hp in one go 04:47 <@kritixilithos> !lastgame 04:47 @kritixilithos: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pavel/xnethack/dumplog/1521358567.xnh.txt 04:47 @kritixilithos: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nhdev/dumplog/1521308605.nhdev.txt 04:47 <@Pavel> I'm not really complaining though 04:48 <@Pavel> It's two in the morning here, and the podcast I was listening to just finished, so I'm glad my nethack game finished when it did. 04:48 <@Pavel> I'm for sleep 05:32 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:53 K2: , for ground eat means that the same sequence of keystrokes doesn't mean different things depending on where you're standing 05:53 this is particularly problematic when food ends up in slot y 05:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:54 K2: I told you that you can get the old behaviour back by changing menustyle 05:54 -!- stenno is now known as Guest27839 05:54 I once managed to eat the same trice corpse off the ground twice in a game, not even the amulet of lifesaving helped 05:54 ais523: ouch 05:55 reminds me of when I managed to evaporate like half of my ascension kit in votd 05:55 that's about the point where I decided that ey randomly changing meaning was unacceptable :-D 05:55 (after that incident, I decided that I needed to sleep) 06:28 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 06:53 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 06:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:57 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 07:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 07:12 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38087 07:12 That was Wolfy, my pet white dragon 07:16 -!- Guest27839 has quit [Changing host] 07:16 -!- Guest27839 has joined #hardfought 07:16 -!- Guest27839 is now known as stenno 07:46 woops. so you can't eat a dragon in one sitting. 07:54 what really? 07:54 uhm 07:54 it did warn me, but I assumed I could finish it safely. That was incorrect. 07:54 is that a 3.6.1 change or a xnethack change 07:55 not sure 07:56 <@Tone> What do you mean you can't eat it in one sitting? 07:57 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:38384 07:57 I wasn't satiated when I started eating it. 07:57 when you get interrupted eating a corpse, you can just continue it if you don't eat anything else 07:58 maybe there was second black dragon corpse underneath it or something silly like that? 07:58 no, there was only one black dragon 07:59 shit 07:59 there was a green dragon corpse there too, but I know I didn't start eating that 07:59 it was in the castle 08:00 elenmirie, dang 08:00 yeah 08:00 <@Tone> There are only 1000 nutrition points for the satiated status. Dragons give 1500 nutrition so you can still choke when not satiated 08:00 die and learn! 08:02 you _cannot_ choke when you are not satiated already 08:02 at least not in 3.4.3 08:02 apparently that was changed 08:03 I haven't observed a change in 361, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been changed there 08:03 aosdict can say whether he did anything to it in xnh 08:05 <@Tone> stenno Ah, never noticed that I guess. I don't really track corpse nutrition that closely usually and always stop eating when prompted 08:19 damn, thought I'd just killed a leprechaun and ate the corpse... but it was a chameleon groan 08:20 erf 08:20 I'd lay some eggs... but orange dragons are so meh 08:20 (was wearing ODSM due to lack of better choices) 08:30 yellow ftw 08:30 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Mal Law), 64335 points, T:13413, killed by a fire ant, while fumbling 08:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77198 08:40 team fire ant is doing well... 08:41 woo 08:45 !tell Chris_ANG I haven't actually moved umber hulks, but if I needed U freed up I'd copy Fourk and move them to X. 08:45 Will do, aosdict! 08:46 Also, I put on an unidentified amulet out of desperation, and it turned out to be an amulet of change 08:48 elenmirie: I didn't change any of the satiation mechanics. 08:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:77242 08:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77243 08:48 go hothraxxa! 08:49 Let me check in vanilla 361. 08:49 thx 08:50 Hmm, I can't make myself choke by eating a dragon corpse on T:1, but were you possibly interrupted after you were over 2000 nutrition? 08:51 it could be... 08:52 as I said, I did get a warning, but I said "keep eating" because I thought you were always able to finish it unless you started satiated 08:52 * aosdict tries to set up a situation with a slowly approaching newt 08:52 hehe 08:55 its definitely like that in 3.4.3, that you can be interrupted, then continue safely the _same_ corpse even though you became satiated in the process 08:55 Still nothing... with this newt nibbling at me every step of the way. I was never asked to "Keep eating?" either. 08:56 YANI: paranoid eat option. 08:56 yes, you just have to be very careful of what you eat afterwards... 08:57 Ugh. I know I haven't touched the eating system. 08:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:77345 08:59 hmmm 08:59 well i would inspect the ttyrec about what exactly happened but i am too lazy 09:00 !lastgame elenmirie 09:00 aosdict: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for xnh:elenmirie) 09:00 aosdict: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/xnethack/dumplog/1521373638.xnh.txt 09:01 I'm assuming it's the eu one. 09:01 Oh wait, that's an ant death. 09:02 yeah, call off the search. I was actually satiated 09:02 when I started eating 09:02 So it is All My Fault (again) 09:02 sorry about that 09:03 I could have sworn I wasn't, but the ttyrec says otherwise 09:03 mystery solved! 09:04 even though it sounds harsh, i am glad that it was just an accident and not an actual 3.6.1 rule change 09:04 me too, actually 09:04 it's a corollary of "never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity" 09:05 something like, "never attribute to a rule change what can adequately be explained by careless play" 09:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:05 hanlons razor 09:06 yes! 09:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:77442 09:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2557959 points, T:77453, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1520628684.xnh.txt 09:13 Congrats 09:14 * hothraxxa adds xnethack to his collection of first gnome healer ascensions 09:14 ty 09:14 congrats! 09:14 go team gnome! 09:14 Wooooooot hothraxxa! 09:15 congratulations! 09:20 thanks. it was an odd game 09:20 congrats hothraxxa! 09:21 lol, Maud the Lama should know that her potion of gain level is cursed 09:21 thanks raisse. are you playing xnethack? 09:21 being a lama = a priestess 09:21 no, nd 09:21 ok i'm inclined to play an xnh orc wizard then 09:22 ooh orc wiz 09:22 yes, do it! 09:22 I've given up on the orc wizards for now, currently killing tourists by the dozen 09:23 i think k2 is working on an xnh tourist 09:23 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 09:23 someone is, anyway 09:25 grats hothraxxa 09:26 mahalo 09:27 odd. i never self-polyed but i didn't get the conduct 09:27 unless feeling momentarily different counts 09:30 didn't change polyselfless. you didn't eat any mimics or anything? 09:33 i don't think so 09:34 i probably did in the early game, i guess 09:37 or lycanthropy? 09:37 that breaks polyselfless when you turn into a werefoo 09:54 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 10:07 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 10:09 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:15 xnethack TDTTOE: if you happen to have a hingeless trapped door and it happens to be open and you try to pick it up while standing on it, instead of "It won't come off the hinges" you actually pull it off the hinges, triggering the trap. 10:16 excellent! 10:16 I don't think such doors can actually generate (yet) - but I will need to look at it soon 10:18 how do you know your lamp is now on, when you are blind? 10:18 you feel its heat maybe? 10:18 could be 10:18 or, you knew it was off and you flick the switch 10:18 is a little odd for the brass lantern if that's purely electric I guess 10:19 it must be an old-fashioned incandescent bulb 10:19 good enough for me 10:25 well, I got the "keep playing as a mummy" thing 10:25 unfortunately, it didn't last long 10:27 should probably change that death message so that it reflects your actual death 10:34 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 10:42 congrats hothraxxa!! 10:42 ais523 / FIQ: ok 10:44 ? 10:46 about getobj 10:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:52 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Bar Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3187 11:15 ah 11:16 why are doors trapped with water so much worse than rust traps? 11:17 because I was lazy and used the industrial strength water_damage_chain 11:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Bar Inc Mal Neu) averted death, on T:4236 11:17 I consider it to be too strong and will nerf the effect, but right now I'm working on something else 11:17 right, okay 11:17 ty 11:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:28 YANI: You can dig into shop walls from the outside, without a warning from the shopkeeper. Of course, this will cause them to be angered and demand you pay them. 11:30 elenmirie: I had a couple choice things to say about door water traps also :P 11:30 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 11:30 EPI: door water buckets can unleash water demons and water moccasins. 11:30 I think they are a good idea, but as they stand they are pretty harsh 11:31 don't forget water nymphs! 11:31 and water elementals! 11:31 how about Demogorgon? why mess around? 11:31 someone just added a nethack server based in china to the public server list 11:32 neat 11:32 cool! 11:32 elenmirie: The formula I'm thinking of is something along the lines of, it'll wet (level difficulty/5) random items in inventory, and will never wet containers. 11:32 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:34 -!- tmasher has joined #hardfought 11:35 aosdict: that sounds more reasonable 11:36 seeing that reminded me to add xnethack to the list of public servers hdf hosts 11:36 done 11:39 -!- tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:42 EPI: door slime trap, it douses you in slime and starts the sliming process 11:44 hm, xnethack doesn't have dec or utf8, right? 11:44 (trying a priestess) 11:45 aosdict: isn't that the case lready? 11:45 -!- ihSWAT has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- ihSWAT has quit [Client Quit] 11:45 digging into a shop from the outside 11:46 I usually do that when I really need to get into a locked shop, it's cheaper than the door 11:46 sledding time, bbl 11:52 I was all "eek yellow leppies" 11:52 raisse: 3.6.1 has dec, so xnh should... 11:52 not in the O menu (haven't made a rc file yet, just trying out) 11:52 what is xnh anyway? 11:52 yes... they look like leprechaun kings or something 11:52 xNetHack 11:52 yes, that's obvious, but *what* is it? 11:52 it's forked off 361 11:53 Vaguely, "experimental NetHack". 11:53 That's tenuous though. 11:54 does one gain enough Pw to cast remove curse? 11:54 raisse: My local copy allows me to enable decgraphics. 11:54 and how do I see what MSGTYPEs I've enabled? 11:54 it just says "" 11:54 In my game on hardfought, as well, I can enable dec. 11:55 the msgtypes disable themselves, it seems 11:55 raisse: uh the "" message type is weird... but I also see that in nhdev. 11:56 I'm now hiding "You swap places, "You descend", and "You climb" and that's 5 total, because two of them just reappeared on the next level 11:56 I don't want the game to tell me that I descend the stairs, I *know* that I'm descending the stairs 11:57 Yeah, I hide those three as well. 11:57 That's vanilla behavior though. 11:57 right, found dec 11:57 forgot it's under "symset" 12:00 YANI: an command in the options menu that saves your current options to an autogenerated config file (not overwriting your usual one, unless it doesn't exist.) 12:01 ooh yes! 12:01 I'm now writing everything I change on a virtual post-it note 12:01 Could also have a mode where it appends non-duplicated options to the end of your existing config file. 12:02 raisse: you can copy your 361 file over and fix a couple of error messages, then it works fine 12:03 aosdict: Like half of all variants hdf hosts are betas 12:03 That doesn't mean that it breaks saves 12:03 ? 12:03 elenmirie: good call, thanks 12:03 like S_GHOST no longer exists, and at least one other I can't recall 12:04 raisse: Yeah, nothing should break except stuff you've set S_ghost and S_leprechaun to. 12:04 I can't have ghosts as X? *wails* 12:04 the ghost wails 12:04 Ghosts are W, everyone seems pretty happy with that. 12:04 oh yes, that makes me happy too, as long as they're not [space] 12:04 You could set S_wraith to X, if you really wanted to. 12:05 shades are W too 12:05 wonderful! 12:05 my 3.6.1 shades are X as well (dark blue, I think) 12:05 yes, and note that wraiths are now gray W, not black (because black was taken for shades.) 12:05 well if I can *see* them 12:05 barrow wights are brightblue now because they're casters 12:06 raisse: what you should know is that shades has stolen barrow wights' color 12:06 that actually makes sense 12:06 barrow wights are now zap blue 12:06 what's with the ridiculous amounts of power needed for spells? 12:06 elenmirie: I should add a banshee monster. 12:06 (looks like a big berf to me) 12:07 a nerf, even 12:07 EPI: when you face a banshee, and it wails, you are reduced to 1 HP. 12:07 lol 12:07 Regardless of context. 12:07 * raisse wails 12:07 raisse: but wait until you see power regen... 12:07 oh, 12:07 I didn't make it any further than level 2 with the first priestess 12:08 raisse: it computes your %fail, but instead of failing, it divides the Pw cost of the spell by the %fail. 12:08 So a 0% fail spell costs the normal price, a 50% fail costs twice as much, etc etc, a 100% fail costs infinity power. 12:09 still doesn't solve the problem that remove curse is 150 so a priest can't cast that until they're level 15 or so 12:09 <[Demo]> ow 12:09 and even protection is 8, and I started with 7 12:10 raisse: your fail rate will go down as your Wisdom and XL increase 12:11 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed the Markus of Issek, on T:25489 12:11 s/Wisdom/Intelligence 12:11 Oh, and skill, of course. 12:13 aosdict: you should probably ensure that healers are able to cast healing at XL1 and similar 12:13 Remove curse should be castable by around level 5-6, assuming no skill or Int increases. 12:14 yes, that's a pain with healers that start with Pw4 12:14 raisse: if remove curse costs 150pw, it means it had 90% fail, the pw change was *because* of stuff like this -- utility spells with 90% fail is just tedious, not "difficult"/similar 12:14 as an example 12:15 I, and probably several others, have dropped everything in the game and went into a closet and spamming identify over and over to ID something 12:15 usually I don't care much for variants (though I like to play a bit of dnethack in tournaments) but this one has me intrigued 12:15 even if it had 95% fail 12:15 now it would instead cost 300pw, which is a much better solution I think 12:15 (note that the ID spell is completely removed in xnethack, but it was an example) 12:15 how do you identify stuff then? 12:16 with the scroll? 12:16 raisse: well, you and elenmirie and hothraxxa, regular nhdev players, are one of the target audiences of xnh. 12:16 oh, that hasn't been removed 12:16 or all the other ways NetHack provides 12:16 why? 12:16 I mean why has it been removed? 12:16 looks like another case of "I, the dev, don't like this so nobody gets to do it" 12:16 The scroll is also buffed (or perhaps just rebalanced, depending on your point of view) 12:17 * raisse is probably rather too snarky about this 12:17 raisse: Having renewable identification completely destroys the whole identification game. All you need is sufficient food and a closet to identify _everything_. 12:17 hmm 12:17 (dentist appointment 8am tomorrow, I'm terrified, that makes me snarky about *everything*) 12:18 I wonder how I should make the AI behave if I implemented the pw cost thing 12:18 Which relegates the identification game to early-game-only status for a lot of characters, which is a Bad Thing. 12:19 maybe I should just leave the AI as-is if I did 12:20 it seems like Tariru is intending to conquere slex 12:20 looks like he's in midgame? 12:20 well, vanilla midgame 12:21 slex has that 100 floor thing 12:23 <@riker> !whereis Tariru 12:23 @riker: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex]: No details available 12:25 <@riker> why is tariru bagging corpses O_o 12:25 eek, dentist 12:26 actually, with a blessed scroll of identify guaranteed to ID 7 items, it's not so bad to manage 12:26 hasn't needed to do anything for 15+ years but I'm still terrified 12:26 riker: body bags? 12:27 <@riker> lol 12:27 <@riker> oh he seems to be dropping them in lava 12:27 <@riker> not sure why thouhg 12:27 probably some slex feature 12:28 cleaning up the level? 12:28 <@riker> well he went down a couple levels to do so 12:28 there can be problems if there are too many objects on a level 12:28 <@riker> like 3 I think 12:28 Tariru: Did you source dive any, or are you going blind? 12:28 If the latter... good luck 12:28 Pretty much blind. 12:28 Well, good luck either way, you need it 12:28 heh 12:28 <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya stair "blocked for n turns" has a plural bug on 1 turns 12:28 Will do, @riker! 12:29 I did look up how the blessing large stacks of objects thing worked. 12:29 Ah 12:29 <@riker> tariru: do you really like rogues or something? I noticed you also ascended a droven rogue in dnh (first one iirc, you made it to the wiki) 12:29 Which was just about how I'd guessed it worked anyway. 12:29 You know the game is like 5 times as long as vanilla, right? 12:29 <@riker> more I think 12:29 <@riker> EPI: soko is a random number of levels <= 100 12:29 riker: I do like rogues as a class. Have a pretty good success rate overall. 12:30 eeeeeek that's evil indeed 12:30 <@riker> hm ok 12:30 <@riker> tariru: if you want another interesting role, try gladiators. they're pretty nice early-game, and start with reflection (so an angel one is pretty great) 12:32 what does "goldX" do? 12:32 (in xnh) 12:32 <@riker> where? 12:38 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed the catoblepas, on T:26262 12:38 !pom 12:38 elenmirie: The moon is new for 2 more days. 12:38 ah, that's why 12:38 nearly got stoned by a chickatrice 12:38 luckily my prayer was successful 12:39 haven't seen a lizard yet 12:40 -!- MysteryMyra has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:43 !tell raisse goldX is a 3.6.1 option to treat gold as "unknown BCU, aka X" when filtering inventory 12:43 Will do, aosdict! 12:57 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Desiree, on T:26741 13:09 aosdict: i only played one game of 3.6.1 before xnh, and that was a local game that happened by accident (reading backscroll) 13:09 there's a 3.6.1 nethack app in the windows store that turns out to have a couple of huge bugs 13:10 i started playing it before i found out that it was 3.6.1, which i had been avoiding 13:10 hothraxxa: oh? I thought you were a regular 3.6.1 player. 13:10 Maybe I was thinking of Grasshopper. 13:10 this is why i was often not sure whether a change was xnh or 3.6.1 13:10 yeah he plays dev 13:11 now the spellcasting power thing: that will probably draw a lot of attention since there are a bunch of spells that starting players can cast in vanilla and can't in xnh 13:11 i don't think it's bad, but it's a big difference 13:12 the identify changes didn't bother me but i found that i changed my identify stategy 13:12 i was accumulating stuff to get to 7 before i read a blessed scroll 13:13 also the spellbook differences meant that i simply tried to read every uncursed spellbook. worked out fine for me 13:13 bbiab lunch 13:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:45 dammit 13:54 [hdf-us] [sp] karlos (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 4575 points, T:1428, killed by a soldier ant 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh] karlos (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 92 points, T:479, killed by a sewer rat 14:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:14 a 3x4 room with three molds in it 14:14 i think a friend of mine used to stay here 14:17 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:20 we all have friends like that! 14:22