00:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 29854 points, T:3057, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 00:27 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:26588 01:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:37 morning 04:38 morning 05:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:15 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 06:24 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 72980 points, T:16960, killed by a troll 06:50 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 08:23 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 08:55 aosdict ok 08:55 compiling 08:56 !players 08:56 K2: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nd] 08:56 K2: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [xnh] 08:56 you need me out of xnh? 08:56 elenmirie lemme know when you take a break with your xnh game, i wont update until you're not playing 08:56 hah 08:57 read my mind 08:57 it's not going to screw up my game, is it? 08:57 :p 08:57 keep playing there's no rush to patch 08:57 ok 08:57 no theres no save break 08:58 i just want to avoid a potential 'oh look here's a maze where this level should have been' 08:58 yep :) 08:58 I will be taking a break soon... need to go do something else 08:58 k 08:59 finally, a unicorn horn! 08:59 first cross aligned unicorn in the game 09:00 heh 09:09 oh, you can't restore stats with a unihorn? 09:09 aosdict is a meanie 09:09 however 09:09 it now does 1d8/1d10 damage and is one handed 09:10 it'll still cure other ill effects 09:10 seriously, it's like everyone wants unicorns to be straight up buffed from vanilla with no drawbacks 09:10 okay 09:10 and will do so passively automatically if held bare handed 09:10 unihorns* 09:10 K2: note that 1d8/1d10 is a nerf, it is 1d12/1d12 in vanilla 09:10 i know 09:10 but one handed 09:10 one handed is nice though 09:10 you can two weapon with it 09:10 i rolled a tourist, i plan to dual wield unihorns 09:11 I plan to add bonus damage for monsters that headbutt and have horns, which may be a little too much for unicorns 09:11 not that I will, as I'm a samurai with two katanas 09:11 the unicorn skewers you 09:11 aosdict: i am drafting my YANI post now 09:12 K2: I suppose it's a bit like dual wielding crysknives, plus the passive healing and no reverting. 09:12 EPI: unicorn horns can break when you attack things with them, they're probably brittle. 09:14 K2: I'm out now, update away! 09:15 ok! 09:15 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 09:16 K2: next update will likely savebreak, I'm adding the last turn prayed to ^X 09:16 ok 09:17 so when you do savebreaks, do you plan on incrementing the version number? 09:18 No, 3.6.1 breaks it into majorversion-minorversion-patchversion-editlevel, where editlevel is intended to be savebreaking stuff that doesn't change the patchlevel. 09:18 The version command would then show something like "xNetHack 0.1.0-1" 09:19 I mean, I could change the patchlevel, but following what the devteam does, that would entail a full release. 09:20 gotcha 09:40 !players 09:40 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] 09:40 Grasshopper: [hdf-eu] pondlife [nd] 09:42 EPI: the first unicorn that dies drops a horn, but after that no more. And they degrade when used as in Fourk. 09:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:51 jonadab: more evil: the first unicorn _generated_ drops a horn. It might be coaligned. 09:52 the apple experience: walk into the city, go to shop, buy thing, come back, find that you're lacking some weird cable or adapter, go back to shop 09:53 aosdict: Heh. 09:54 stenno: sounds right 09:54 * jonadab has never owned an Apple device, though. 09:55 aosdict - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7841&p=89936 09:56 aosdict: that's not a nerf... 09:56 it's a buff 09:56 1d8/1d10 1h is much better than 1d12/1d12 2h 09:56 1d12/1d12 2h is not good 09:56 oh, with one exception 09:57 the one role that *should* arguably wield unihorns 09:57 can't twoweapon 09:57 so for them, it's a nerf :D 09:58 aosdict │ I plan to add bonus damage for monsters that headbutt and have horns, which may be a little too much for unicorns 09:58 Wouldn't it be easier to just factor the horns into the damage itself? 09:59 K2: And add unique steeds for the Riders? 09:59 ^ that 09:59 add it! 09:59 this isn't DCSS or CoQ where horns is a trait 09:59 it's just flavour 09:59 just added a new entry to my post 09:59 regarding stregth 09:59 strength 10:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:01 FIQ: Eh, then you have to keep track of it, document it, a newcomer developer won't realize that it exists, etc. 10:01 minotaurs :) 10:02 For similar reasons, while I support removing monstr and hardcoding monster difficulties, I think there should still be adjustments applied automatically for e.g. spawning in groups. 10:02 EPI: minotaurs always get a wand, but instead of digging sometimes it is speed monster. 10:02 hah 10:03 EPI: actually, minotaurs always get speed monster, nymphs are the ones that should usually get digging, obviously. 10:03 -!- [Demo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 K2: my mental image of you never matches what I assume is your actual picture :) 10:04 heh 10:05 yeah thats me 10:06 Ok, the colored stairs thing _should_ be rather trivial, and would give me some good insights into NH3 display code, unless branch stairs are just given their own glyph entirely. 10:06 oh, found a xnh explot 10:06 exploit 10:06 yeah the stairs bit is simple, at least it was for 3.4.3 10:06 -!- [Demo] has joined #hardfought 10:06 no idea how 3.6.x chages this, if at all 10:07 !players 10:07 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] Tariru [slex] firemonkey [nd] Tangles [4k] 10:07 Grasshopper: [hdf-eu] No current players 10:07 <[Demo]> mhmmm server ran out of ram and did died 10:07 <[Demo]> something mean mean memory leaking 10:08 hmm 10:08 yup i see a runaway xnethack process 10:09 i never added xnethack to my excess cpu kill script 10:09 <[Demo]> oh i mean mine not urs but thats a good catch 10:09 heh 10:09 K2: not the exploit I meant 10:09 <[Demo]> i think it might be my discord to irc bot 10:10 right 10:12 if you get sentient_arise()d into an undead creature, then pray to your god as lawful, they'll override the intrinsic unchanging and rehumanize you 10:13 [hdf-us] [nd] firemonkey (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1508 points, T:2362, killed by a rothe 10:14 aosdict that runaway xnethack process was only 16 hours old 10:14 username was 'stinkboy' 10:14 <[Demo]> what a stinkboy 10:14 no other details as to why it occurred 10:14 oh yeah saw a death by him yesterday 10:15 lemme check paniclog 10:15 K2: next update will likely savebreak, I'm adding the last turn prayed to ^X 10:15 could have been the exploding-door-infinite-loop thing? 10:15 if not I can check the ttyrec 10:15 if you do that and kill my game i will find you and insert a unicorn horn where it will be most painful 10:16 nothing new in paniclog 10:19 K2: does your "new special levels" bullet encompass _any_ new special levels (e.g. my Quest level redesigns) or entirely new levels/branches? 10:19 entirely new 10:20 like unnethacks dragon caves or sheol 10:20 ooh just thought of another thing to add 10:25 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:26 post updated 10:30 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Mal Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:9711 10:34 YASI: If you're wielding a cockatrice egg and it hatches, you get instastoned. 10:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 10:41 hmm I'm trying to build unnethack, it can't find -ltermlib - is that a common issue? Not sure what I'm missing. 10:42 (I swear I had it built already, but evidently not.) 10:43 Oh, it needs to be -ltermcap, perhaps. 10:45 why are you not using the configure script? 10:46 probably because I am sleepy and not following instructions 10:47 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 10:50 [hdf-us] [nd] firemonkey (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1448 points, T:2719, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 10:51 firemonkey! 10:52 bhaak: maybe you know what I'm looking for already: how did you override the CLR_GRAY with CLR_YELLOW for branch staircases? 10:53 because I've been trying to figure out how to do that for other dungeon symbols 10:54 one sec 10:54 i have a commit for that from grunthack and sporkhack 10:54 aosdict: look in mapglyph.c 10:54 it's an ugly hakc 10:54 but it's the same kind of hack as the lit corridors 10:55 just search for CLR_YELLOW in there 10:55 @4k?asmodeus 10:55 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -7 | Attacks: 4d4 claw physical, 6d6 cast cold | Alignment: 20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 10:56 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 10:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:57 aosdict - https://github.com/NHTangles/GruntHack/commit/ace22b223821b27a90aadf566ee6b3f872c3f863 11:03 ahhh aosdict you changed eat behavior to match nh4 11:03 the whole getobj bit for things on the floor 11:03 i am guessing 11:05 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:05 <[Demo]> did that originate from slashem or did slashem get that from something else? 11:05 K2: that's FIQ's patch 11:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:14 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 533 points, T:2164, killed by a giant bat 11:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:70740 11:27 :O suddenly my ambitions of iron doors are resurrected! 11:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 16 points, T:23, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 11:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:33 aosdict: If you're going on savebreak rampage, please consider making saves portable so that you can add fields without breaking saves 11:33 I'm not asking you to go to the extent FIQHack has, but more like NH4 11:34 Which has some stuff in place to allow adding things without breaking saves 11:34 FIQ: how would I go about doing that? Besides adding a bunch of dummy fields to everything? 11:34 by adding padding 11:34 dummy fields is basically it, except that's an insane way of doing it 11:34 basically on save writing/reading, pad a bunch of bytes 11:34 for things you expect to add fieldes to 11:34 *fields 11:35 like the player struct, monster struct, and whatnot 11:35 <[Demo]> so savebloat? 11:35 <[Demo]> i like it 11:35 Yeah I don't want to add save bloat. 11:35 ...NH3 saves are tiny 11:35 <[Demo]> yeah 11:35 <[Demo]> you can bloat the hell out of it and it will still be smaller than nh4 saves 11:35 But all right then, go ahead and break saves every other week 11:36 I'm sure people will appreciate it 11:36 It's ok on things like the player struct, but not on monster or obj structs 11:36 FIQ: this is a _beta_. Once released I'm going to adopt a model similar to jonadab's and put savebreaking stuff in its own branch. 11:36 ok since you're convinced that it's so bad, let's do some math 11:36 an ascension game vanquishes around 5k monsters usually 11:36 it obviously doesn't vanquish everything 11:37 let's say the game has 5x as many monsters as players kill in the end 11:37 25k monsters 11:37 FIQ: also, the savebreaking incident that broke LT's save is because K2 wasn't aware that it would and didn't set up dgl accordingly 11:38 adding a padding of 20 bytes means that you're overall adding 500KB to the save 11:38 the horror! 11:38 aosdict updated my YANI list again 11:39 aosdict: did you change the #rub behaviour? 11:39 hothraxxa: only insofar as making it work on thiefstones I think. Why? 11:40 now when i rub my touchstone, instead of just offering me unknown stones it offers all stones including itself. i can see why if there's thiefstones, however 11:42 ahh I had a feeling things like that would happen with getobj refactor 11:42 not a bug, just changed behaviour because I didn't realize it behaved like that previously 11:42 aosdict: apply.c:2278 11:42 if you want to revert the behaviour 11:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:43 revert the eat corpses behavior too 11:43 or just modify it using oc_name_known or similar 11:44 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:44 K2: ? 11:44 why 11:44 that was like 11:44 the entire point 11:44 personal opinion 11:44 of the patch 11:44 heh 11:44 K2: set menustyle to not full 11:45 hmm 11:46 menu style is currently a char 11:46 so I could, if I wanted, extend the option to allow menustyle:full with old getobj behaviour 11:46 but that seems excessive 11:48 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/82 lolwut 11:49 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 11:49 aosdict: probably troll 11:50 <[Demo]> ducks r important! 11:51 i saw that from a few days ago 11:51 heheh 11:51 ... 11:51 oh snap! 11:51 aosdict: I just had a neat idea for a special level 11:51 my kid gave me the idea 11:51 <[Demo]> if its good im gonna steal it 11:52 K2: does it involve ducks 11:53 yes 11:53 (that's to throw Demo off the trail) 11:53 ok brb 11:54 asmo and his goddam wand of digging 11:54 that is a really annoying mechanic that i encourage developers to nerf 11:55 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56 vanilla devteam: "We have heard your plea and nerfed wands of digging by making all floors non-diggable." 12:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:00 FIQ: how about this for touchstone_ok: https://gist.github.com/copperwater/edc67f34475640e90a901ae725a40340 12:00 <[Demo]> replace touchstones with duckstones 12:00 <[Demo]> duckhack, a fun game about ducks 12:00 Luxidream beat you to that name already 12:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:71257 12:02 You have a little trouble lifting i - a wand of digging. 12:02 gee wonder if it has any charges 12:03 definitely name it and ascend with it 12:03 i - a wand of digging named Asmodeus' Getaway Car 12:03 What do you want to name this wand of digging? (0:0) 12:04 that's emoji for "a cowardly attack on amybsod's breasts" 12:20 aosdict: this might be 3.6.1, but casting restore ability always says "Wow! This makes you feel better!" even when restoring full ability. that message implies that there's still something wrong 12:21 yeah that's vanilla 12:21 i guess i never noticed it having no need for the spell in vanilla 12:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:22 +_+ 12:22 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:22 consider this a please fix 12:23 no reason to behave that way, unicorn horns made me feel great 12:23 when restoring full ability of course 12:23 consider this: unicorn horns were actually delivering horrible drugs to your nervous system and you are now hopelessly addicted 12:25 oh wow that's an EPI 12:26 <[Demo]> thats slex 12:26 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:27 I think I read a story that involved unicorn horns being made of cocaine once 12:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:28 <[Demo]> any variants do racial "quests"? 12:28 vanilla used to have an Elf quest, but that was a role 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:71607 12:31 dnethack has elf(drow) quest 12:33 <[Demo]> those are race-role combos 12:33 Just got to castle with chicky corpse ready, and coaligned unicorn turns up (on no-tele level) while I have an ID'd gem in inventory 12:33 gem thrown, let's hope it is a good omen for no YASDs 12:34 <[Demo]> dont get crushed by the drawbridge 12:34 Always stand well back... 12:35 UNbeleivably, I actually enchanted Grimtooth to +7 this game 12:35 unbelievably too 12:35 heh 12:40 <[Demo]> hmm what if priest could trade spirits for shit from gods 12:43 Dear God, I offer thee booze in supplication for a truly awesome death stick... 12:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed historic burnt magic marker named bill watterson", on T:71697 12:47 nice 12:47 <[Demo]> oh yeah not that kind of sprits, heh 12:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:53 updated the YANI list again aosdict 12:56 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 243 points, T:966, killed by a small mimic 13:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:08 i have a new keyboard and mouse now 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1801 points, T:3124, killed by a little dog 13:09 so now i can type properly again 13:09 \o/ 13:09 stenno - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7841&p=89936 13:11 so many ideas from unnethack ^_^" 13:12 good good 13:12 i like the nazgul one 13:12 nice 13:12 yeah unnethack has some really good things 13:12 i pulled some of them and put into grunthack/sporkhack 13:12 indeeeeed 13:12 huh 13:12 i thought un was basically inspired by spork 13:13 ah in the versions you maintain/host 13:13 to a degree yeah it appears that way 13:13 but i added more visual/ui bits 13:13 those are nice YANIs, but there should also be something that works the other way around 13:14 for example "we promise we will never implement nazgul like they are implemented in spork" 13:14 "because we have human decency" 13:14 oslt 13:14 fuck spork nazgul 13:15 although, in comparison to some dnethack mosters they are tame 13:15 heh 13:15 feel free to add to the list 13:15 nah lol 13:16 i was only kidding 13:16 well partly kidding 13:16 lol 13:16 but certainly exxaggerating 13:16 well i mean feel free to add any ideas 13:17 oh right 13:17 hmm 13:17 fourkhacks alignment system 13:17 but for some reason this is not popular with the others 13:20 K2: well a lot of them are, hmm, very general ideas. 13:20 i need to learn how to make a level in nethack 13:20 aosdict - yes for now 13:20 i didnt want to spend all day writing, plus its just me and my 6 yr old at the house right now. i am getting pulled away/being asked questions constantly 13:21 level generation is an interesting read 13:21 and we had a pretty good lego building session 13:21 yay lego 13:21 :) 13:21 you should have your kid build 80x20 nethack maps 13:21 i wrote several pages about monster generation in nethack lol 13:22 its still in draft form for a year or so 13:22 (3.6.0 codebase) 13:27 xnethack already messes with monster generation 13:28 hence the welcoming mobs as you arrive on every new level 13:28 i also got a minotaur on dl9 13:28 oh/ 13:28 on the asc run? 13:29 or in general 13:29 that... should not happen 13:29 specially considering they generate only in mazes 13:29 polytrap? 13:29 or the mines' end problem 13:29 9 seems a bit shallow for Mines' End though it might be possible. 13:29 i thought it must be polytrap but i couldn't find one 13:30 aha! i know, levelport trap 13:30 9 is the first level where a polytrap migh appear 13:30 oh! 13:30 tele'd up from mines end? 13:30 no no i's entered gehennom 13:30 i'd 13:31 Hothraxxa bites the jaguar. The jaguar is killed! 13:31 Hothraxxa grows up into a large dog. 13:31 w00f! 13:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:72038 13:41 i should play xnethack with my new keyboard 13:41 but as usual i am too lazy 13:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:48 oh, hello there random ice box in the mines 13:52 aosdict - a bit more detail about my general statements on my xnethack YANI list: for the most part its that way on purpose. i dont want to tell you exactly what to do with your variant. its more of an idea post, curious to see you put your own spin on these, if you even decide to use any of the suggestions at all 13:53 the only one i'm kind of adamant about is E word conduct tracking :P 13:54 aosdict: i have a bug with ctrl-a and quaffing 13:54 it doesn't repeat 13:55 ctrl-a repeats a kick 13:55 aosdict: Gray stones can be identified by rubbing 13:56 I think the is_graystone check is a bad idea 13:56 Looks good otherwise 13:56 <[Demo]> its kind of stupid the things u can virtualize 13:56 aosdict: Note that ctrl+a in NH3 is kind of broken in general 13:57 oops, meant hothraxxa 13:57 sure but it always worked for this 13:57 stenno: 8, not 9 13:58 my first ever orcus graveyard without a box or chest 13:58 [hdf-us] [slex] BSOD2 (Poi Ang Fem Neu), 0 points, T:113, fell into a pit 14:00 FIQ: oh? 14:01 hmm what was 9 again 14:01 deepest oracle level 14:01 my bad 14:01 * stenno realizes more and more that he shouldn't rely on his faiting knowlege of nethack anymore 14:01 fainting even 14:02 K2: *sigh* slex update, that topten.c thing again, hopefully the buffer is big enough that no scriptkiddie h@xx0rz can do stack smashing anymore now and hopefully the buffer is also not too big to break everything... also: there's an old livelog_lock around on hdf-us, please remove that because everyone's getting "Waiting for access to logfile. (9 retries left). I give up. Sorry. Perhaps there is an old /slex-2.1.7/logf 14:03 ok 14:05 compiling 14:05 K2: *doublesigh* Elronnd pushed something without my consent, and the thing he pushed will screw up the options settings of all ongoing games :( 14:06 and there was a logfile_lock from yesterday 14:06 you increase the buffer fr it as well? 14:07 *for 14:08 ugh, I guess I'll have to see whether that uses the same buffer 14:08 if not, I'll have to fix it for that as well 14:11 dammit... hothraxxa tangled with a large mimic and lost 14:11 i feel sad for a moment and then it passes 14:11 he did a good job 14:15 i now have a new dog 14:15 You swap places with FIQ. FIQ eats a python corpse. 14:15 YUM YUM 14:15 heh 14:15 he's a rescue 14:15 found him on a beach in thailand 14:19 oh a RL dog? 14:20 not a nethack dog 14:20 * aosdict doubts K2 would name a RL dog FIQ 14:20 true 14:20 <@riker> no, I think he's making a joke about fiq going to thailand 14:20 ah, missed that now I no longer have an evil twin 14:21 what happened to your evil twin? 14:21 went down with the old server 14:21 :/ 14:21 oh, right 14:21 yup nethack dog 14:21 which we decommissioned when we were confident that the external hosting was working 14:22 I don't need to be online 24/7 anyway 14:22 honestly these shapechanger vampires are the silliest thing they did in 3.6 14:22 <[Demo]> yeah 14:23 i just ignore vampire bats, wolves, and fog clouds because they can't hurt me, so i don't have to deal with the vampire form 14:23 sometimes they get in my way 14:24 LarienTelrunya I went past 100 turns with slex after patching, did not get a logfile access error msg 14:24 i could wear my ring of protection from shape changers but then i'd have to fight vampires and vampire lords 14:24 K2: oh you updated already? thanks :) 14:24 just us server right now, working on eu 14:24 compile finished awhile ago, i just forgot about it 14:25 * raisse goes to sing 14:25 #sing the passtune! 14:28 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:28 <@riker> only works if you have 19+ cha 14:28 <@riker> larien: :( I selected "delete the old file? 'n'" but it still deleted my old dnhslex file 14:28 or only valkyrie can do it (reference to Wagner) 14:29 <@riker> o it didn't 14:29 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 14:29 <@riker> ??? 14:29 <@riker> apparently it just won't load it since it has a config incompatibility 14:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:31 omg, I just realised that I have not been wearing my GDSM since an encounter with an incubus 14:31 good thing that golden naga was peaceful 14:31 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 14:32 [hdf-us] [slex] BSOD2 (Fox Orc Fem Cha), 1900 points, T:1478, killed by a monster (instituted shadowboxed tartrate juxtaposition pedal deflective called I overflowed the death buffer or maybe not but anyway lolololo) 14:32 <@riker> ok 14:32 wat 14:32 okay that didn't crash the game (yet) 14:33 <@riker> amy: can I has gmmode powers please <3 14:33 riker: maybe in a future version :) 14:33 <@riker> aw ok 14:34 [hdf-us] [slex] BSOD2 (Che Tro Mal Cha), 176 points, T:326, killed by a monster (Demogorgon) 14:35 okay the ultra-long death message really no longer crashes things :) 14:35 riker: the thing is, if I allow GM powers for everyone, players might just end up GMing themselves and sending only monsters that do good things 14:36 <@riker> amy: you should ascend an addict wiz 14:36 <@riker> larien: not everyone jsut me 14:36 <@riker> I want to mess with people when you're asleep 14:36 :P 14:36 <@riker> also, amy can addicts be hybridable? 14:36 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (War Add Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a monster (a saddled green nightmare) 14:36 nope, addict is only selectable as a primary race 14:36 <@riker> :/ 14:36 <@riker> that should be fixed :p 14:38 <@riker> also hey amy an actual 'bug' for you 14:38 <@riker> using the capital letters to travel (i.e. H or L vs h or l) doesn't always move right 14:38 <@riker> it moves you in the last direction you tried to move in 14:39 <@riker> so if your'e confused then it may end up turning you around and going the wrong direction for a long time 14:39 <@riker> instead of applying the direction check every move 14:42 -!- Tariru has joined #hardfought 14:42 riker: hmm, I never use those commands to travel 14:43 <@riker> can you fix taht tho >_> 14:43 <@riker> it's super irritating 14:44 it's probably vanilla behavior 14:44 <@riker> it is 14:44 <@riker> I think it counts as a bug tho 14:48 also, about the addict race, the development version does a couple nice things to confused spellcasting :) 14:48 <@riker> like? 14:48 first, confusion resistance will reduce the 90% autofail to cast when confused to 50%, and second, higher spellcasting skill will also reduce the autofail percentage 14:48 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49 <@riker> how do you get confusion resis? 14:49 unfortunately 2.1.7 does have the full 90% autofail all the time though 14:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:73034 14:49 confusion resistance is a very rare in/extrinsic, there's e.g. a ring that has it 14:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:73037 14:49 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 14:51 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Fox Add Mal Cha), 336 points, T:848, killed by molten lava 14:51 <@riker> yay for confusion 14:51 <@riker> >_> 14:52 <@riker> !role slex 14:52 @riker: binder 14:52 <@riker> !role slex 14:52 @riker: pirate 14:52 <@riker> amy: also, I can't hit * on the role or race page without scrolling to the end :/ 14:52 yeah, sorry about that, dunno how I'd fix that 14:57 <@riker> > splint mail is cursed -2 14:57 <@riker> >worth it since i'ts reflection 14:59 bbl 15:08 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Fig Ang Mal Cha), 10171 points, T:1732, killed by a shotgun shell 15:08 <@riker> I didn't know there was a shk behind hte door ;-; 15:13 w00t! i fell into a deep shaft and bypassed rodney's level 15:14 i have aggravate monster and i was worried he'd wake up 15:18 [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Wiz Ang Mal Cha), 0 points, T:11, killed by a monster (water elemental of Thoth) 15:18 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Mal Cha) killed Thuy-Han, on T:16573 15:19 <@riker> amy since when do wizards start punished 15:48 jonadab - as the resident "prefers ye olde internet" person around here, do you have a search engine you like? I actually tried to look up something salacious a couple days ago, and was dismayed to see that even on duckduckgo, almost the entire first page of results was barely-tangentially related products, mostly on amazon and ebay 15:49 gettin sick of having products pitched to me constantly *even when ads are blocked*, blech 15:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: sleeping time] 15:59 -!- tmasher has joined #hardfought 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tmasher (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 212 points, T:440, killed by an exploding crystal ball 16:05 -!- tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07 shpingrlde: One thing I don't prefer the ye olde internete versione of is search engines. Before Google came up with page rank, searching on the internet was very laborious and hrd. 16:07 *hard 16:07 * jonadab has vivid memories of spending 30 minutes crafting a boolean search to remove all the unwanted irrelevant stuff and narrow down to what I actually wanted. 16:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:23 The wood nymph smiles at FIQ engagingly. 16:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:12643 16:28 ah, i guess that's true 16:28 i was only around for a year or two of boolean searching 16:29 putting a good one together felt clever tho 16:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 4587 points, T:5676, killed by a soldier ant 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:73871 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:73880 16:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:73981 16:35 120 turns. harsh 16:36 actually not. that's right on average 16:40 Does the chance of an item resisting identification in SLEX get worse the more things you identify? 16:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 16:42 . 16:42 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-03-16 14:10 EDT: why the heck doesn't !oSpeed auto-id on quaff 16:42 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-03-16 16:38 EDT: hlf cav don't get a martial arts bonus (bare hands instead, despite reaching master) -- should (read: can) they? (please?) 16:43 @riker: That's on purpose: martial arts haven't been invented yet. 16:44 dnunnow why !speed doesn't auto ID. 16:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Mal Cha) killed Merle, on T:20417 17:05 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 17:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 17:20 -!- Tariru_ has joined #hardfought 17:23 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:43106 17:33 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:46 aosdict: what if the orb of detection, for Arc only, was able to detect when an artifact is generated? 17:46 jonadab: shpingrlde: Boolean searching? 17:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:44212 18:00 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:01 -!- realinari has joined #hardfought 18:04 FIQ: as in, ((these AND search AND terms) AND (NOT ((this OR that) AND theother)) AND (NOT (foo AND bar)) AND (NOT ((baz OR quux) AND (wibble OR zoinks)))) 18:05 AltaVista had a reasonably good UI for it. 18:05 But it was pants compared to PageRank. 18:06 This is why Google shot up from "never heard of it" to #1 alexa rank in like two months. 18:10 -!- realinari has quit [Quit: realinari] 18:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:47 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 572 points, T:1806, killed by a giant ant 18:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:51 -!- stenno is now known as Guest94587 18:55 -!- Guest94587 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:00 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 19:10 jonadab: ah 19:14 [hdf-us] [nd] redshirt (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 472 points, T:1301, killed by a water moccasin 19:17 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu) averted death, on T:48544 19:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 626048 points, T:48560, killed by the Master of Thieves 19:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:74839 19:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:74843 19:43 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Tmasher (Sam Hum Mal Law), 100 points, T:344, killed by a boulder 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:75328 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75331 20:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:75856 20:28 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Arthur Dent, on T:21930 20:29 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Ford Perfect, on T:21932 20:30 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Mr. Prosser, on T:21949 20:32 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Zaphod Breeblebrox, on T:22018 20:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76295 20:35 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Douglas Adams, on T:22183 20:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:76437 20:37 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Prostetnik Vogon Jeltz, on T:22228 20:38 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Marvin, on T:22365 20:39 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Eddie, on T:22373 20:39 [hdf-us] [slex] Tariru (Rog Ang Fem Cha) killed Deep Thought, on T:22382 20:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76799 21:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed greased historic fixed lit magic marker named wil eisner", on T:77024 21:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed historic greased magic marker named walt kelly", on T:77061 21:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed partly eaten rusty magic marker named lester gooch", on T:77169 21:49 hi 21:49 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 22:02 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 22:13 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 50948 points, T:4772, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 22:35 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19635 23:28 FIQ: Normally, as long as players can use other roles' quest artifacts, I'm not in favor of giving them effects that apply only to that race. But it'd be a nice unique property for it to have. 23:35 s/race/role 23:41 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]