00:22 FIQ: according to the interhack principle, any traps you learn the real identity of, or already know the identity of, should be shown as their real identity while you are hallucinating. Similar for certain objects and monsters. But that seems incredibly pedantic and flavor-breaking. Thoughts? 01:38 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:51 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 16839 points, T:481, killed by a gnome queen, while praying 02:53 . 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 18:52 EDT: hitting 'y' on the main menu gave me "Shall I pick a character's race, role, gender and alignment for you? [ynq] Access to /dgldir/userdata/rikerw/unnethackplus/rikerw.unplusrc denied (2)." 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 18:54 EDT: followed by the game freaking the fuck out (weird rendering, chose a role for me twice (???? it started the game and then when I tried to move restarted as a diff role/race), then it wouldn't let me do any extended command) see ttyrec? fixed when I closed my terminal and relogged in 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 19:10 EDT: request: QA aritwish for dnhslex 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 19:20 EDT: positively ID'ed the fact that explosiosn (gas spore or cart) hitting another monster crash it. I just watched a firework cart explode a gnome and it crashed rigt after. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! said explody things don't always explode when I kill them, only when monsters kill them looks like? 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 19:21 EDT: anyway I haven't tried to recover my save since I actually want it to survive.... please let me know if it is safe to do so 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from Chris_ANG at 2018-03-15 19:58 EDT: Re itchiness oddness: known bug, fixed in dev. 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 22:13 EDT: getting a "Waiting for access to record." error whenever my game dies (not quit but die). tries 60 times and then exits to main menu? 02:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from @riker at 2018-03-15 22:13 EDT: SLEX on hdf 02:54 !tell riker create a dnhslex config file by using the editor, that should make the error message go away (it happens because it doesn't automatically create such a file) 02:54 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:55 !tell riker no idea why hdf doesn't have access to record, certainly not me doing stuff since it worked earlier and slex didn't get changed for two weeks or so, it may be a permissions problem on the server 02:55 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:56 !tell riker okay, I got a backtrace on that firework cart crash, will pastebin it for Chris 02:56 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:58 Chris_ANG: I got a backtrace from riker's firework cart crash, apparently it happens when other monsters are caught in the firework explosion. Here: https://pastebin.com/raw/RwnMNTU3 - maybe that can shed some light on the cause 02:59 might be trying to double free a monster pointer or something? 03:02 !tell riker sadly, it seems that the dnhslex savegame is corrupted again, just like last time; I tried to open it on my account and got a trickery followed by SIGILL 03:02 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:09 [hdf-us] [slex] BSOD2 (Con Akt Fem Neu), 0 points, T:56, killed by a monster (man eating plant) 03:11 it only happens on hdf-us, so it's a problem with the record file there I suppose? 03:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:17 LarienTelrunya: You should be able to open other peoples saves in wizard mode. Wizard mode never trickeries. 03:18 And yeah, probably a double free of the firework cart. 03:18 It's hard to tell with half the addresses missing >:( 03:19 well if I open it in wizard mode, I get "Restoring saved game... Saved game was not yours. Shall I pick a character's race, role, gender and alignment for you? [ynq] q" arrrrrrrrrgh stupid cheating protection I'm gonna remove your fat ugly ass from this world :P 03:19 I don't think I've ever seen that thing before, it is not a useful feature :/ 03:21 LarienTelrunya: Ur doin it wrong. Wizard mode allows that. 03:21 Hm... 03:21 oh, the problem is that I can't immediately start it in wizard mode 03:21 actually, I can't use wizard mode on the server at all it seems :( 03:22 Ah, well, there's that problem, then. 03:22 Can you just download the save? 03:23 not sure, but probably possible in theory 03:24 It's definitely a better way to work with things. I was asking if the interface/your permissions were such that you were able to download it. 03:25 well permissions-wise it's not a problem, I've officially been promoted to the rank of main em.slashem.me administrator... but I'm not familiar with the server, so I don't know how to download the save off it :P 03:26 How are you communicating with the server? 03:27 logging into it via putty, using my admin key 03:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 03:28 PSCP then, I think. 03:28 also why can't I pull from your dNAO repo into dnhslex? it says "devel-3.15.2 is up to date with Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/devel-3.15.2" 03:29 https://it.cornell.edu/managed-servers/transfer-files-using-putty 03:29 Sounds like you successfully pulled. 03:30 What branch are you developing on? 03:30 ah, no, I forgot to sync, I did now and that made it possible to "merge 23 commits from Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/devel-3.15.2" 03:30 dnhslex uses devel-3.15.2 as its master branch 03:31 aww, merge conflict in monst.c and objects.c 03:32 oh you changed the AC value of crystal plate mail 03:32 Nerf bats raining from the sky. 03:32 ah and the crystal helm too 03:35 also wth is a pointiff crown :P 03:36 LarienTelrunya: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/473440979553415348/ 03:38 is that from the baroque era? :) 03:38 It's whatever the flip is on this guy's face: 03:38 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/darksouls/images/2/28/Pontiff-sulyvahn.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160621165847 03:39 wow some of the eladrin sure got buffed in those commits 03:40 dnhslex allows eladrin to spawn anywhere at random, so those suddenly got much more dangerous :P 03:41 "crow-winged half-dragon" is a unique?! sure sounds like a standard monster to me 03:42 yaaaaaay sync conflict resolved and updated dnhslex pushed :) due to the addition of new monsters this breaks saves though 03:43 Weap->xwep is a nerf, and Phys -> Energy may be a nerf or a buff depending on if the PC resists that energy. 03:43 ah, I see 03:43 also I got an error yesterday when I farlooked a marilith, apparently the pokedex doesn't know about some of their attack types 03:43 Oh, probably. 03:44 AT_MARI: Marilith arms. 03:44 yeah, that was probably the one, there were 4 instances of "BUG: noninitialized description of attack_type" or whatever the message says 03:47 -!- LarienTelrunya_ has joined #hardfought 03:47 The crow-winged half-dragon might make more sense when the maps for fem-HlfDragon-Noble are created. 03:48 ah, I see 03:49 Also, if you enabled that combo already, it is now broken. 03:49 Since it is expecting maps that don't exist. 03:50 :( I guess other types of nobles might be broken too, i.e. all those that are for some weird reason unplayable in regular dnh? :D 03:51 chirpoteran noble? incantifier noble? clockwork noble? 03:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:51 -!- LarienTelrunya_ is now known as LarienTelrunya 03:51 Those will use the "primary" noble quest, the human/vampire/incant quest. 03:52 At least, I think incant is enabled in dnh. 03:52 ah, so the half-dragon is specifically unplayable now but the others work? 03:52 Yep 03:52 ok 03:53 [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18096 03:59 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 35604 points, T:3551, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:26 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] Mary (Robin) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11387 points, T:260, killed by a jackal 04:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 04:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:34 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 04:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh4] Mikko (Robin) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7483 points, T:826, killed by a jackal 04:38 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:56 [hdf-us] [nh4] Heikki (Robin) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 18732 points, T:1131, killed by a fox 05:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:24 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 05:33 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 05:44 [hdf-us] [fh] MiseryMyra (Val Hum Fem Law), 46105 points, T:3197, killed by a bugbear 05:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 06:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:06 aosdict: Yes, taking the Interhack principe to its extreme leads to some gameplay losses 06:07 For example: cancel into BoH doing anything bad at all (it still does in NH4), traps as you mentioned, hallucination with objects you've already looked at, passive monsters (not just floating eyes) 06:08 It is a good policy, but following it blindly is a bad idea 06:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 06:35 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:43 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:09 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 07:48 whee! 07:49 the minetown general store had a pre-blessed magic lamp :) 07:49 I've stopped killing orc wizards, I'm now killing tourists. 07:49 yay, tourists! 07:50 mostly because in each one of my last 3 games I've found a silver saber that I couldn't use 07:50 lol, yeah 07:50 the place is always awash with them when you don't need them 07:50 even a silver spear in a shop! 07:50 (which is my favourite for cav) 07:59 sweet! 08:06 !tell aosdict savebreaking isnt an issue so long as I know that an update being put out will do that ahead of time. I can setup a multiversion script for it on the dgl side. so savebreak away, just give me a heads up prior to. and yes I need to compile and send you my list of ideas :P 08:06 Will do, K2! 08:07 do speed boots still make you very fast in xnh? 08:07 si 08:07 ok 08:08 gracias 08:08 jonadab: please bring back amnesia ;) 08:08 trying to forget something? 08:10 without amnesia, the identification game basically disappears later on because you know everything! 08:11 EPI: amnesia should not only make you forget items and scramble their randomized appearances, but also jumble their ordering in your pack so you can't remember what they are by seeing in ttyrecs what the identified item in that slot was. 08:12 Ultra Mega EPI: amnesia is hit or miss, doing something like a 95% chance that your item identifications are unaffected and the remaining 5% you forget absolutely EVERYTHING. Plus in the latter case it also scrambles their appearances and jumbles the order of items in your inventory and containers. 08:13 anyway, gotta go now, bbl :) 08:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: amnesia is a fun game mechanic in nethack!] 08:15 I'm gonna try and forget that 08:20 !tell LarienTelrunya talk to me please when you return about the record issue in slex. found something interesting i've never seen before 08:20 Will do, K2! 08:26 -!- aagbsn287 has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- aagbsn287 has quit [Client Quit] 08:32 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 08:59 K2: pushed paranoid trap improvements 08:59 aosdict: Message from K2 at 2018-03-16 08:06 EDT: savebreaking isnt an issue so long as I know that an update being put out will do that ahead of time. I can setup a multiversion script for it on the dgl side. so savebreak away, just give me a heads up prior to. and yes I need to compile and send you my list of ideas :P 09:17 ok cool 09:30 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 09:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:37 K2: hmm, what did you find about the record issue? 09:37 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2018-03-16 08:20 EDT: talk to me please when you return about the record issue in slex. found something interesting i've never seen before 09:38 in the main slex folder where files like logfile, xlogfile and record exist, there was a second file called record_lock 09:38 its data mirrored that of record 09:38 YANI: Itinerant merchants who offer you one of several trades if #chatted to. Generate randomly on either the upstairs or downstairs of a level, path to the opposite stairs, and disappear from the game once they reach them. Generated with the requisite inventory to make all their trades. Tougher than shopkeepers, and if you kill one, no more will ever spawn. 09:38 file permissions were fine on record as they always have been 09:38 hmm, I guess that happens during the (normally tiny) timeframe when the game is writing to the record file? 09:38 so what condition would happen to cause record_lock to be generated? 09:39 never seen it before 09:39 maybe a slex process was trying to access record and then faulted somehow, so it never released the record file lock? 09:39 is it a vanilla thing that all variants share, or is this an amy/slex thing? 09:39 it's probably either a slashem thing or indeed a vanilla thing 09:39 i.e. I certainly didn't make it behave that way 09:39 ok 09:39 i killed the record_lock file 09:39 i could log in, play, save no problem 09:40 aosdict heh thats a neat idea 09:41 ugh there's still something wrong though 09:41 I just tested, and upon using #quit I got: slex: malloc.c:2394: sysmalloc: Assertion `(old_top == initial_top (av) && old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) >= MINSIZE && prev_inuse (old_top) && ((unsigned long) old_end & (pagesize - 1)) == 0)' failed. 09:41 that was on hdf-us 09:42 i was able to #quit no issues 09:42 hdf-us 09:42 was that a new game for you or an existing one? 09:42 well if you quit before the 100 turn mark, it doesn't go on the highscore list 09:43 i see 09:43 one sec 09:43 ugh, now I quit at T:103 and get "Waiting for access to record. (59 retries left)." again 09:43 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 33273 points, T:2646, quit 09:43 probably that weird malloc error happened during accessing the record file, creating that record_lock, and now that it's there, the game cannot access it anymore 09:43 hmm i get this on game end 09:44 Waiting for access to record. (59 retries left). 09:44 yeah 09:44 hmm 09:45 I'm wondering, maybe there's a very long entry in the "record" file and it chokes on that, throwing the assertion 09:45 at the end of retries it says 09:45 I give up. Sorry. 09:45 Perhaps there is an old /slex-2.1.7/record_lock around? 09:45 so thats how its being generated 09:46 yeah, with record_lock not in place, it tries to access record as normal but then somehow faults (see that assertion I posted), and then record_lock is there, leading to all subsequent games getting the "waiting for access" thing 09:46 and my guess is that the "record" file itself has something that is faulty, maybe a very long line that is longer than the buffer 09:46 HEY! I think that's also why loli was getting crashes! 09:47 i'm looking 09:47 his crashes happened when he went to a new dungeon level, and probably that level had graveyards or cockatrice nests, which likewise try to access the highscore file and probably the stack smashing happens because it tries to read a line that's longer than some buffer! 09:49 is the "record" file publicly visible? if not, pastebinning it could enable me to find the faulting line :) 09:50 http://termbin.com/hdx12 09:51 2.1.7 44221 1 54 87 -5 110 1 20180313 20180313 5 Dea Ang Fem Cha dolores,killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted burning fern sprout), while praying unsuccessfully Conduct=4223 09:51 2.0.9 22035 2 10 10 -3 110 1 20171028 20171027 5 Gla Ang Mal Cha rikersan,killed by a monster (undead wild talent called rikersan), while frozen by breathing a potion Conduct=383 09:51 those seem to be the longest two lines 09:51 the second one has been there since end of october last year 09:51 the second one is older and caused no issues; the first one may be just one or two bytes too long to fit in the buffer and therefore causes the crashes 09:52 is this buffer something slex controls? 09:52 yes, but unfortunately I don't know where its size is set or I'd make it bigger 09:52 let's see how long the faulting message is 09:53 hmm, 180 characters, it seems 09:53 counting spaces? 09:53 yes 09:53 ok 09:53 goddammit PC! stop lagging! 09:54 gah do I have a laggy PC :( 09:54 ... if it were reacting to my clicks, I'd be much farther now 09:55 yep, 180 characters 09:55 maybe topten.c sets the buffer? 09:56 hmm there's DTHSZ, which is 100 09:56 dolores,killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted burning fern sprout), while praying unsuccessfully Conduct=4223 09:56 ^^ that string must probably try to fit into a buffer that has a length of 100 09:56 hmm but somehow it's 114 characters in length 09:56 maybe the conduct part uses a different buffer 09:57 dolores,killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted burning fern sprout), while praying unsuccessfully 09:57 ^^ is 101 bytes in length, I'm pretty sure that's the reason and setting DTHSZ to a higher value should fix it 09:57 one moment, I'll issue a fix 09:58 ok 09:58 <@Tone> TIL apparently sasquatches get a bonus to kicking 09:58 vanilla was obviously never meant to have such a long death message ;) 10:00 K2: okay, I've pushed a commit to slex master; if you update slex, please delete record_lock and then I'll test whether it helped :) 10:00 ok 10:01 if my theory is correct, the crash should go away unless someone manages to produce a death message that's 50 characters longer than loli's 10:06 error on even starting a game now. 10:07 wait one, doing a clean install 10:13 ok so i can start a game at least 10:13 lets test 10:13 Unix SlashEMExtended Version 2.1.7 (4b5f860) - last build Fri Mar 16 10:07:06 2018. 10:13 so far everything seems to be working 10:13 now to get my test char killed :D 10:14 ok seems your tweak worked 10:14 [hdf-us] [slex] BSOD2 (Wan Sli Mal Cha), 28 points, T:163, zapped himself with a wand 10:14 yep :) fantastic! thanks a lot! 10:14 np 10:14 what did you set the buffer to? 10:14 now I can tell loli that the crash is gone :)) 10:14 150 (was 100) 10:15 ok 10:15 updating slex on eu server 10:15 :) 10:21 LarienTelrunya you should pick FIQ's brain on how he suppresses warnings in make during a build 10:22 Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu) 10:22 ok... how? 10:22 um 10:22 * LarienTelrunya polymorphs into a mind flayer and tentacles FIQ :D 10:22 ask him? 10:22 brb 10:23 !tell FIQ is there a specific method you're using to suppress warnings in make during a build? if so, I'd be interested in it to silence the hundreds of warnings slex gives during compile ;) 10:23 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 10:27 K2: ? 10:27 FIQ: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 10:23 EDT: is there a specific method you're using to suppress warnings in make during a build? if so, I'd be interested in it to silence the hundreds of warnings slex gives during compile ;) 10:28 FIQHack has no warnings on compilation 10:28 That's how I "suppress" them 10:28 ^ that 10:28 :D 10:28 oh 10:32 ugh, can chiropterans in dnethack even wear anything? i.e. does the game ever generate "large" sized armor randomly or am I out of luck? 10:36 wtf why does a chiropteran "feel a deep kinship" to a coyote corpse?! 10:42 FIQ: help! my chiropteran can't wear anything! is wishing the only way to get equipment with the correct size? 10:42 upgrade kits can be used by non-clockwork to resize armor to your size 10:42 ah ok :) 10:42 is it one use per kit? 10:42 yes 10:43 thankfully they're relatively common, so hopefully I'll find a few before the lack of armor gets me killed 10:43 equal rate as keys I Think 10:43 *think 10:44 does the "shadowlander torch" do anything interesting? 10:45 IIRC it's a reverse torch 10:45 creates an area of darkness 10:45 oh, it generates darkness? :D 10:46 not very useful unless you're a drow 10:46 but it's a magical tool 10:46 so there's that 10:46 ah, polypiling fodder 10:48 !tell Chris_ANG is it intentional that the skill screen doesn't tell me how many slots I have left? if not, feature request: show how many slots I have left :) 10:48 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 10:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:51 @d?chiropteran 10:51 No such monster. 10:51 wut 10:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:64433 11:00 wooo 11:00 LarienTelrunya pinobot is messed up somehow 11:00 observe 11:00 @v?unicorn 11:00 unicorn ~3~ Norn (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 11:00 ? 11:00 thats not a standard unicorn 11:01 well vanilla has no monster named "unicorn", it only has monsters named white/gray/black unicorn, respectively ;) 11:01 @v?white unicorn 11:01 white unicorn (u) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 70 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d12 butt physical, 1d6 kick physical | Alignment: 7 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, infravisible 11:01 bah 11:01 and it uses some algorithm (forgot the name) to find the closest match 11:01 haha 11:01 look aosdict... 1d12 butt 11:01 :P 11:02 K2: you want a unihorn update? Cause I got a unihorn update. 11:02 fuck yeah 11:02 pushed 11:02 lay it on me 11:02 hah 11:03 no longer fix attributes, but do 1d8/1d10 11:03 errrrmahgerd 11:03 is it still one handed? 11:04 (total change from vanilla: damage is still down from 1d12/1d12 but it's one handed and has the passive thing) 11:04 oh neat 11:04 bare handed only for passive use though correct? 11:04 yep 11:04 ok 11:04 did not change that 11:04 yeah this is decent 11:04 and makes !oRA more valuable to boot 11:05 welp 11:05 wizmode testing game 11:05 first room wand of wishing 11:05 :( 11:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:06 heh 11:06 ok brb will update gotta fix this thing at work real quick 11:10 . 11:10 Chris_ANG: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 10:48 EDT: is it intentional that the skill screen doesn't tell me how many slots I have left? if not, feature request: show how many slots I have left :) 11:20 You hear something rumbling in the ceiling. 11:20 say whut? 11:20 is this 3.6.1 or xnethack? 11:20 xnh 11:20 ah. what's it mean? 11:20 something triggered a door trap that drops a boulder 11:20 aha 11:20 I sure hope you're an archeologist 11:21 i am a healer. why would being an archeologist help? 11:21 because they are good at evading boulders 11:21 ah 11:21 (this is not a thing but I want to make it a thing) 11:22 Anyway, if something else triggered the trap and not you, congratulations, there's a monster staggering around somewhere with 1d20 damage. 11:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:24 it wasn't me 11:25 i did, however, get my towel wet again from one of your buckets of water 11:25 somehow i never seem to be able to disarm a door trap 11:30 heh, at least the towel is designed to get wet 11:39 xNetHack updated (us and eu) 11:39 ^^ the unihorn patch 11:40 so now because of this, do healer scalpels still need to be buffed? 11:40 oh hothraxxa 11:40 you need to save and then restart 11:41 otherwise next time you try to use your unihorn, may cause issues 11:41 ok 11:42 K2: They should probably still be better than 1d3/1d3. 11:43 Don't really have a problem with leaving them as is for now. 11:43 Until I do implement a bleeding-out status and give scalpels that. 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh4] cpittman (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 40033 points, T:2303, killed by an owlbear 11:52 <@riker> amy you still here 11:52 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 02:54 EDT: create a dnhslex config file by using the editor, that should make the error message go away (it happens because it doesn't automatically create such a file) 11:52 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 02:55 EDT: no idea why hdf doesn't have access to record, certainly not me doing stuff since it worked earlier and slex didn't get changed for two weeks or so, it may be a permissions problem on the server 11:52 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 02:56 EDT: okay, I got a backtrace on that firework cart crash, will pastebin it for Chris 11:52 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-03-16 03:02 EDT: sadly, it seems that the dnhslex savegame is corrupted again, just like last time; I tried to open it on my account and got a trickery followed by SIGILL 11:56 -!- Announcy has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:56 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:58 -!- Tangles_ has joined #hardfought 11:58 I don't suppose anyone knows where riding skill is initialized :/ 11:58 <@riker> > <@LarienTelrunya> oh you changed the AC value of crystal plate mail 11:58 <@riker> chris I want to hug you across the internet 12:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:01 Chris_ANG: dnethack YANI: a disfiguring poison that drains Cha. 12:01 aosdict: oooooh a bleeding out function 12:01 what game had that... it was one of the MMO's i used to play 12:02 (Found it. weapon.c, the check is based on if your starting pet is a pony, I was expecting checks based on role) 12:02 the blade was coated in a poison that prevented you from clotting 12:02 warfarin 12:02 so you'd take another 2d8 or whatever damage due to blood loss 12:03 -!- FIQ has quit [*.net *.split] 12:03 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 12:03 hothraxxa did you save and reload? 12:03 i sure did 12:03 ok good 12:03 implementing that on the monster side may involve some refactoring though (monsters don't actually have timeouts for status conditions currently) 12:03 if unihorn throws any errors please let us know 12:03 i was in the middle of a mob of summoned nasties 12:03 what exactly changed re the unihorn? 12:03 its now 1d8/1d10 12:04 oh that is nice 12:04 but restore ability function is gone 12:04 its still one handed 12:04 and has the bare handed passive apply function 12:04 what? i hate you aosdict 12:04 bahaha, no way to please hothraxxa 12:04 just keep a couple !oRA handy 12:04 i dipped tyhem all 12:04 its what i do when playing unnethack 12:05 me too 12:05 crap and here i was using restore ability as my forgotten spell :( 12:05 major issue in this game is no teleport control. wastes huge amounts of turns 12:06 you have uncontrolled teleportitis? 12:06 so walking back up to get the spellbook is a problem 12:06 no i don't get teleportitis until i have the ring 12:06 blessed scroll of teleport will give you a controlled horizontal teleport, if that helps 12:06 then i eat tengu 12:06 yeah i know, but i want to levelport 12:07 i'm at turn 66338 12:07 getting close to twice my normal turn count 12:07 the castle is downstairs 12:08 surprised that i only got a demilich 12:08 aosdict: have you added elbereth tracking? 12:08 no. K2 has a bargain to fulfill 12:09 even if I did it would only apply to new games 12:09 it will be fulfilled soon 12:09 ok lunch break bbl 12:13 clearly it can't apply to games in progress 12:18 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 12:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o FIQ] by tolkien.freenode.net 12:19 I'm leaning more toward the conduct being all monsters that were actually scared via Elbereth or scare monster - if the conduct is only _engraving_ it, you can take advantage of it where it's already engraved. 12:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:58 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:14 <@riker> aosdict: what's k2's bargain? 13:14 <@riker> also, I think that would be a more appropriate conduct 13:15 the bargain is that he gives me a list of YANIs that apparently have never been seen before 13:15 <@riker> uh 13:15 <@riker> ok 13:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed greased partly eaten scrolls of charging named murgatroid", on T:67608 13:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed historic rusted magic marker named mc escher", on T:67610 13:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:67757 13:42 hey murgatroid lets go-o-o (lets go-o-o) 13:44 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 13:45 heh 13:46 wikiwikiwikiwiki (shut up!) 13:46 aosdict: bug. i have a scroll in my inventory but when i apply my magic marker, i get What do you want to write on? [*] 13:47 (i can write the scroll) 13:47 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:48 Blank scroll? 13:48 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:52 aye 13:53 I think that's a 361 thing 13:53 if the scroll is unidentified, then it doesn't automatically recognise it as writing paper 13:53 you can still type the inventory letter though 13:54 it was an identified blessed blank scroll 13:54 oh, then it's a bug, yep 13:54 <@riker> try reading it? 13:55 can you not type the inventory letter? 13:55 <@riker> maybe it's a flag set by read-ID'ing, and not formally ID'ed 13:55 not in 361 it isn't... 13:55 sure i can type the letter. it works 13:55 unless aosdict tinkered with it 13:55 I didn't 13:56 can't reproduce, magic marker offers my identified scroll of blank paper as an option for writing 13:56 in both vanilla nhdev and xnh 13:56 <@riker> is the marker ID'ed? 13:56 shouldn't need to be 13:57 it is 13:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 13:57 let me try another scroll 13:57 if you identified unlabeled scrolls as blank paper, why are they still showing as "unlabeled scroll"? 13:58