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00:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 417 points, T:1723, killed by a kobold zombie
00:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6152
00:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Dro Fem Non), 4 points, T:13, killed by a giant rat
00:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Dro Fem Non), 55 points, T:212, killed by a fox
00:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Dro Fem Non), 65 points, T:463, killed by a vampire bat
00:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Dro Fem Non), 0 points, T:37, killed by a kobold
00:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54334
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00:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Orc Fem Non), 185 points, T:1751, killed by a grid bug
00:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] tilia (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2650 points, T:3092, killed by a rothe
00:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54669
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:54938
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54939
01:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Mah Gel Fem Cha), 113 points, T:232, killed by a monster (black rat)
01:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3070
01:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2684 points, T:4921, killed by a soldier ant
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01:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof magic harp", on T:55225
02:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:55240
02:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:55270
02:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:55288
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02:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:55318
02:10 <Elizziebeth> Hey, so, I'm kinda new to dNetHack, playing an Orc Binder. I've been having a really good run, but out of nowhere I got swarmed by easily 20+ Malkuth Sephiroth
02:10 <Elizziebeth> After burning a ton of scrolls, I ended up praying and the Void scared them off it seems, but any idea why they'd show up in the first place? The wiki seems to imply they're not randomspawn, and I haven't done anything it'd say woudl trigger them
02:11 <Elizziebeth> (while I am a binder, I only have two spirits, and no marks visible rn)
02:11 <Elizziebeth> (nor have i interacted with any shopkeepers in ages)
02:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:55330
02:12 <Elizziebeth> well fuck me they're back :v
02:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3394392 points, T:55331, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/nhdev/dumplog/1519851783.nhdev.txt
02:13 <Grasshopper> ... and so it was written in the Book of Grasshopper...
02:25 <Elizziebeth> I'm binding Shiro just to have a chance at getting past them tbh
02:26 <Elizziebeth> Okay so on one hand, invis didn't do shit
02:27 <Elizziebeth> but on the other, Shiro's stones fuck up sephiroth!
02:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 66508 points, T:14329, killed by an Elvenqueen, while sleeping
02:44 <Elizziebeth> rip me. Killed by sephiroth
02:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Orc Fem Non), 57569 points, T:7622, killed by a Shiere Eladrin, while praying
02:45 <Elizziebeth> Oh. I guess the eladrin got the killing blow
02:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 10786 points, T:5085, killed by a leocrotta
03:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 786 points, T:1598, killed by a jet of molten lava
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03:23 <Grasshopper> Orctown... :P
03:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "iridium", on T:4474
03:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the ghost of cpittman, the former Conjurer, on T:4131
03:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the ghost of cpittman, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4141
03:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3830 points, T:5502, killed by a jaguar
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04:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 16162 points, T:5955, killed by a magic missile
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05:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 9143 points, T:5432, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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07:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] Tangles (Wiz Syl Fem Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:4723
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07:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an incubus, on T:5124
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08:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6947
08:25 <raisse> was that disenchanter genocide on vlad's throne?
08:29 <elenmirie> raisse: yes
08:29 <raisse> thought it must be :-)
08:30 * raisse is writing something difficult with a deadline of tonight, so not paying much attention
08:31 <elenmirie> ugh, deadlines
08:32 <raisse> *shrug* I promised, and then when I wanted to do it I got technical problems that I needed to solve first
08:32 <raisse> but my new laptop will be here tomorrow!
08:32 <elenmirie> oooh!
08:33 <raisse> I make that 9 Rodney kills at least
08:33 <elenmirie> yeah, he's being a pest
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08:39 <aosdict> one Rodney kill for every Tariru ascension on his streak!
08:39 <aosdict> don't stop till you hit 61!
08:44 <[Demo]> kill em all
08:45 <elenmirie> lol aosdict
08:45 <[Demo]> u have a mandate now
08:45 <elenmirie> heh
08:45 <[Demo]> earth plane holdout
08:45 <[Demo]> heh id hate to do that in vanilla
08:46 <[Demo]> had to do a long ass astral holdout in dnh once
08:46 <elenmirie> eek
08:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 2992 points, T:3522, killed by a water moccasin
08:51 <aosdict> jonadab: Reviewing my passive gold detection system, I'm really unhappy with its implementation because it forces a newsym call on every square of the map every turn, which obviously you're not supposed to do. The problem is that it does have to clear all previously mapped gold since it may not be in that spot anymore. Not sure how I can get around that. Any ideas?
09:00 <raisse> deadline thing done, now I can watch you ascend
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09:01 <raisse> if pesty doesn't get you
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09:01 <raisse> argh now I'm required here
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52347
09:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Executioner, on T:52375
09:45 <raisse> elenmirie: belated congrats
09:45 <raisse> I was whisked away to elsewhere
10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a rothe corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:11483
10:31 <aosdict> wow, that's detailed
10:37 <Grasshopper> very
10:37 <aosdict> I assume you were trying to convert
10:37 <Grasshopper> didn't get a conversion out of it either
10:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53075
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12:08 <Flan99> Hey, in dNetHack I lost a really promising binder to a horde of respawning Markuh Sephiroth, but I have no idea what provoked them
12:08 <aosdict> paging @riker
12:08 <Flan99> I only had two spirits bound anyways and hadn't interacted with any shopkeepers or priests, which from what I can glean from the wiki, shouldn't get me mauled by angels
12:09 <rld> <@riker> I'm here
12:09 <rld> <@riker> uh
12:09 <rld> <@riker> hm
12:09 <rld> <@riker> did you commit any sins
12:09 <rld> <@riker> binders start with pre-incremented sin counters
12:09 <rld> <@riker> and malkuth are just the enforcers, tehy spawn in crowds with 1-3 higher-level ones
12:09 <Flan99> Maybe? I cannibalized a little, but I was an orc. What qualifies as a sin?
12:09 <rld> <@riker> did you rehumanize/lifesave?
12:10 <Flan99> Nope
12:10 <rld> <@riker> hm
12:10 <rld> <@riker> then it's likely just the low chance of that happeneing normally
12:10 <rld> <@riker> *happening
12:10 <rld> <@riker> sorry about that :/
12:10 <rld> <@riker> it's happened to me before too
12:10 <Flan99> Damn. Oh well, I probably would've YASD-ed some other way before long anyways
12:11 <Flan99> Thanks!
12:11 <rld> <@riker> np
12:11 <rld> <@riker> fwiw, you just gotta be really careful as binders (for thinsg like that)
12:11 <rld> <@riker> if you rehumanize/life save once, you'll be plagued all-game
12:12 <Flan99> So the lifesave spirit isn't half as good as it sounds in reality :P
12:12 <rld> <@riker> jack? eh
12:12 <rld> <@riker> I mean it's great since binders get stupid OP at the endgame
12:12 <rld> <@riker> esp orc binder
12:12 <rld> <@riker> >_>
12:12 <Flan99> Fair enough
12:12 <rld> <@riker> orc binder be like: equipment? I got intrinsic MR, spirit-granted reflection and branchport, and 25 25 25 stats
12:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] ellipsis (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 452 points, T:1541, killed by a werejackal
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12:35 <rld> <@riker> !tell LarienTelrunya fiqhack explore command when
12:35 <Beholder> Will do, @riker!
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12:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 459 points, T:1637, killed by a hobbit
12:48 <rld> <@riker> YASI: juiblex's level has a neutral altar to that one slime god from dcss
12:50 <Flan99> But her name changes each run tho
12:50 <rld> <@riker> oh I forgot
12:50 <rld> <@riker> well tha'ts easily replicable
12:50 <Flan99> True
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12:55 <Flan99> "But <identification> will cost you 240 zorkmids. Interested?" (y/n) n
12:55 <Flan99> "It's your call, ugly"
12:55 <Flan99> *rude*
12:55 <rld> <@riker> dnh?
12:55 <Flan99> Mhm
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12:55 <Flan99> I even have decent charisma ;.;
12:55 <rld> <@riker> rip
12:55 <rld> <@riker> yeah identification is really expensive
12:55 <rld> <@riker> worth it sometimes
12:56 <rld> <@riker> mainly if you can abuse credit cloning w/ yer pet
12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Orc Fem Non), 221 points, T:682, killed by a small mimic
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12:59 <rld> <@riker> :(
12:59 <Flan99> shopping op
12:59 <Flan99> To be fair I prooobably should've realized the helmet sitting in the potion shop was a little suspicious...
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13:12 <Flan99> YASI: a doppelganger creature which takes on the appearance and name of one of your pets until you reach a certain health threshhold or they and the original are in sight.
13:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Bin Orc Fem Non), 887 points, T:1474, killed by a dwarf, while helpless
13:14 <aosdict> what happens when the original comes in sight? do you get to do a "I don't know who to kill! Give me a sign!" act?
13:15 <Flan99> "How do I know which one is the real Hachi?!" *furious barking*
13:15 <Flan99> (I figured it'd just revert to its true form and go for the kill)
13:17 <aosdict> a SMOP for sure
13:17 <aosdict> having to select which sections of pet code to use for the monster without it actually being a pet...
13:18 <Flan99> Hence why it's yet another /stupid/ idea ;P
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13:44 <jonadab> aosdict: Shouldn't you only do newsym() when removing the memory fo gold if there was previously remembered gold there, and only do newsym() when detecting gold if there is gold there?  So you'd only do newsym() if there either was or is detected gold there.
13:45 <jonadab> Which I _suppose_ could be every tile on the level in exotic cases, but.
13:45 <FIQ> ~please don'tspam newsym
13:45 <FIQ> it will lag
13:46 <FIQ> on server
13:46 <FIQ> play
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:99305
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:99306
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:99306
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:99314
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:99315
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:99317
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:99379
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13:53 <aosdict> jonadab: Ah, there must be some way to check the memory of a space then?
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13:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] ellipsis (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3031 points, T:4509, killed by a gnome king
13:55 <aosdict> FIQ: Yeah, I know it's bad
13:56 <aosdict> didn't know any way to unmap it though, but should be able to reduce it to spots where the hero remembers detecting gold
14:02 <aosdict> jonadab: This would be something along the lines of if (levl[x][y].glyph == [gold glyph])?
14:03 <jonadab> aosdict: Ask FIQ about the player memory stuff, I think he knows it better than I do.
14:03 <jonadab> Though he probably knows it the NH4 way, not sure if NH3 is the same, very possibly not.
14:07 <aosdict> It might actually be back_to_glyph().
14:15 <aosdict> jonadab: Hmm, it seems like you would want if (back_to_glyph(x, y) == objnum_to_glyph(GOLD_PIECE)), possibly.
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14:29 <rld> <@riker> !role slex
14:29 <Beholder> @riker: electric mage
14:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:14142
14:36 <rld> <@riker> !role slex
14:36 <Beholder> @riker: zyborg
14:37 <rld> <@riker> !role slex
14:37 <Beholder> @riker: graduate
14:37 <rld> <@riker> !role slex
14:37 <Beholder> @riker: unbeliever
14:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Wolfechu (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:14418
14:42 <aosdict> do ettin mummies and zombies really need to exist?
14:42 <aosdict> like, do they really serve a purpose in the game?
14:42 <aosdict> that isn't covered by other undead, anyway
14:44 <rld> <@riker> no[
14:44 <rld> <@riker> nuke 'em
14:45 <rld> <@riker> ettins in general can be removed tbh
14:45 * aosdict is trying to knock out as many things as possible that could be savebreaking
14:47 <aosdict> I don't have as much of a problem with ettins.
14:48 <aosdict> But the choice to make them be one of the monsters that comes with mummy and zombie counterparts, especially since giants are one such monster, is... odd.
14:54 <rld> <@riker> well, what purpose to ettins serve
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14:56 <rld> <@riker> > FIQ should just accept the fact that letting monsters use all items in the game is a stupid idea! He should cut his losses and make a sane variant instead, where they don't randomly read genocide and wipe you out!
14:56 <rld> <@riker> tfw amy is so salty she makes that a random slex msg
15:03 <[Demo]> i love slex messages
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15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1447
15:45 <FIQ> @v?Elvenking
15:45 <Beholder> Elvenking (@) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, infravisible
15:57 <FIQ> !tell K2 pushed a minor tweak: sleep is less RNG-dependant
15:57 <Beholder> Will do, FIQ!
16:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Wiz Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2434
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16:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Wiz Inc Mal Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:3850
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Val Hum Fem Law), 30216 points, T:1676, killed by an invisible valkyrie called "Naeroon", while sleeping
17:11 <raisse> that was a nightmare!
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17:25 <K2> heh
17:25 <Beholder> K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-03-04 15:57 EST: pushed a minor tweak: sleep is less RNG-dependant
17:25 <K2> alrighty
17:26 <[Demo]> replace sleep with death magic
17:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:104282
17:27 <K2> FIQhack updated (us and eu)
17:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] Tmasher (Sam Hum Fem Law), 556 points, T:967, zombified by a kobold zombie
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Val Hum Fem Law), 40361 points, T:6820, killed by a Green-elf
17:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19667
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Tmasher (Bin Elf Mal Non), 198 points, T:833, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food
17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 32640 points, T:6830, killed by a gas cloud
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 38 points, T:55, killed by a fox
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] WandererGavin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2008 points, T:2529, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:104736
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] dom (WandererGavin) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 12075 points, T:785, killed by a fox
18:28 <FIQ> !who
18:28 <Beholder> FIQ: [hdf-us] naeroon [fh] DemoBot [nh] Grasshopper [nd] Lol [dnh] cpittman [un] k2 [4k] 
18:28 <Beholder> FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players
18:28 <FIQ> K2: how's 4k
18:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Lol (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4034
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:105406
19:02 <rld> <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG convert bullets to shotgun shells, with the bullets in the quiver.  the shotgun shelsl will be "in quiver", but hitting 'f' with a shotgun wielded gives me shit about "no item quivered"
19:02 <Beholder> Will do, @riker!
19:04 <Chris_ANG> @riker that's not even the best part.
19:04 <Beholder> Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-03-04 19:02 EST: convert bullets to shotgun shells, with the bullets in the quiver.  the shotgun shelsl will be "in quiver", but hitting 'f' with a shotgun wielded gives me shit about "no item quivered"
19:05 <Chris_ANG> If you drop them on the floor they will still be "in quiver"
19:05 <rld> <@riker> what
19:06 <rld> <@riker> well tah'ts not good
19:06 <FIQ> K2: I've had a watchmode connection to a NH4 game for over a week :)
19:06 <[Demo]> wow
19:06 <rld> <@riker> !rng take the juggernaut | don't
19:06 <Beholder> @riker: don't
19:06 <rld> <@riker> @d?juggernaut
19:06 <Beholder> juggernaut (G) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d8 butt physical, 2d8 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: tunnels, mindless, nopoly
19:06 <rld> <@riker> > max hp 25
19:06 <rld> <@riker> i got dis
19:07 <rld> <@riker> @d?id juggernatu
19:07 <Beholder> id juggernatu ~2~ id juggernaut (G) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -20 | Attacks: 2d8 butt physical, 2d8 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: phases, mindless, nopoly
19:07 <rld> <@riker> oh fuck how come ID ones have 20 less AC chris
19:07 <aosdict> FIQ: do you know how to effectively say "if the hero remembers gold at this spot"? My attempt apparently isn't working.
19:08 <rld> <@riker> i got it ;D
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:26390
19:08 <[Demo]> grunt at him
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:26393
19:09 <FIQ> level->locations[x][y].mem_obj
19:09 <[Demo]> fuck levl
19:09 <[Demo]> fuck whoever named it that i hope they have to play slex
19:09 <Chris_ANG> @riker Objects remember what slot they are equipped in.  The function I'm using extracts the object from the players inventory, but does not properly handle objects that are equipped to slots. So the bullets still think they're in the quiver even though they aren't.
19:09 <aosdict> yeah nh3 doesn't have mem_obj
19:09 <aosdict> I think it uses glyph though
19:09 <Chris_ANG> So, "Oops"
19:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10235916 points, T:105884, died of starvation
19:09 <FIQ> glyph seems like the ǸH3 version yeah
19:09 <rld> <@riker> chris_ANG that is a bug :D
19:10 <rld> <@riker> demo: ouch
19:10 <aosdict> FIQ: the way this isn't working is like this:
19:10 <[Demo]> fuck you demobot i hope ur kids die
19:10 <[Demo]> !lastgame
19:10 <Beholder> [Demo]: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DemoBot/nh343/dumplog/1520073078.nh343.txt
19:10 <Beholder> [Demo]: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nhdev/dumplog/1520194540.nhdev.txt
19:10 <aosdict> I create a hill orc and give him some gold, then teleport somewhere far away out of sight
19:10 <[Demo]> what a moron
19:10 <[Demo]> died surrounded by corpses
19:11 <FIQ> [Demo]: lol
19:11 <FIQ> aosdict: if you want to find all gold
19:11 <aosdict> the gold will be seen traveling with the hill orc as he moves, but there will be a "trail" of phantom gold left behind him that isn't actually there and isn't getting unmapped
19:11 <FIQ> is there a reason you don't iterate level->objects ?
19:11 <FIQ> hmm yes there is
19:11 <aosdict> FIQ: I'm piggybacking on gold_detect to do this already
19:11 <FIQ> it wont find remembered gold
19:11 <FIQ> that disappeared
19:12 <FIQ> yeah so you want to iterate the map
19:12 <aosdict> I still have the loop that iterates over the entire map, and when newsym is called on every spot it does unmap the phantom gold correctly, but of course that's not practical.
19:12 <FIQ> looking for gold object glyphs
19:12 <[Demo]> aosdict i like ur idea but i think theres a reason live object detection doesnt exist
19:12 <FIQ> and unmap them
19:12 <[Demo]> in that it would be a pain in the ass to do in nh3
19:13 <aosdict> so, to the loop I added if (levl[x][y].glyph == objnum_to_glyph(GOLD_PIECE))
19:13 <FIQ> hmm
19:13 <[Demo]> fuck whoever named it levl i hate them more than i hate demobot
19:13 <FIQ> I remember having trouble dealing with NH3 glyphs
19:13 <FIQ> in curses
19:13 <aosdict> and the thing is, in gdb it does appear like that works, newsym does only get called on spots where there are remembered gold
19:13 <rld> <@riker> tfw you find a bones files of yourself
19:14 <rld> <@riker> and the angry shk is still there but now has a shotgun
19:14 <rld> <@riker> why are shks smart >_<
19:14 <FIQ> aosdict: but...?
19:15 <aosdict> but for some reason the phantom gold persists, I guess
19:15 <aosdict> testing again
19:15 <FIQ> what happens if you call newsym manually
19:15 <FIQ> from gdb
19:15 <FIQ> aosdict: oh, one thing you should try
19:16 <FIQ> watch a memory addr
19:16 <FIQ> of a $ pending to disappear
19:16 <FIQ> with your code
19:16 <FIQ> see what happens
19:16 <aosdict> that would amount to what, watching level.locations[x][y]?
19:16 <FIQ> level.locations[foo][bar].glyph yes
19:17 * aosdict wields a sinister device named gdb
19:17 <FIQ> you can use /g
19:17 <FIQ> to figure out coords of stuff
19:17 <FIQ> All objects currently shown on the map:
19:17 <FIQ>  <75,15>  $  some gold pieces
19:18 <FIQ>  <59,16>  $  a gold piece
19:18 <FIQ>  <59,17>  $  12 gold pieces
19:18 <FIQ> referring to this screen
19:18 <aosdict> that's O, not g, but yes
19:18 <FIQ> it is /g
19:18 <FIQ> O just cycles objects
19:18 <FIQ> not very helpful for getting the numerical coordinates
19:19 <FIQ> *cycles objects when farlooking
19:19 <aosdict>  /O gets me coordinates, /g doesn't do anything
19:19 <aosdict> maybe 3.6.1 is different
19:20 <FIQ> this is 3.6.1
19:20 <FIQ> on server
19:20 <FIQ> hdf
19:20 <aosdict> is it recent 3.6.1? this branch may be behind
19:20 <FIQ> Unix NetHack Beta Version 3.6.1-0 - last build Mon Jan 22 07:19:03 2018. 
19:22 <aosdict> anyway, this is irrelevant
19:22 <aosdict> I can get the coordinates of objects
19:23 <FIQ> aosdict: btw, potential problem
19:23 <FIQ> let's say we have a pile like this
19:23 <FIQ> ))[*)
19:23 <FIQ> in the mines
19:23 <FIQ> out of sight
19:23 <FIQ> then a dwarf with $ wanders through
19:24 <FIQ> with your setup, what will happen (in a non-buggy setup)
19:24 <FIQ> is that $ will override
19:24 <FIQ> then *the entire pile* will vanish
19:24 <FIQ> because the game doesn't remember
19:24 <FIQ> what you saw before
19:25 <aosdict> maybe the simplest thing to do is not detect gold carried by monsters
19:25 <aosdict> which is arguably sort of overpowered anyway
19:26 <FIQ> the best solution is to have proper seperate glyphs :P
19:27 <FIQ> fun fact: xorns can sense players carrying gold
19:27 <aosdict> yeaaaaah... not gonna overhaul the entire display system for *this*.
19:27 <FIQ> I mean
19:28 <FIQ> ball&chain code
19:28 <FIQ> has to go through several hoops
19:28 <FIQ> to not break down
19:28 <FIQ> in similar cases
19:29 <FIQ> aosdict: just implement object memory :D
19:32 <aosdict> since I'm not going to implement object memory but I do want to keep passive gold detection if possible, I think the best thing is to only show floor gold.
19:34 <FIQ> !who
19:34 <Beholder> FIQ: [hdf-us] naeroon [fh] mtf [fh] hothraxxa [gh] DemoBot [nh] Grasshopper [nd] Lol [dnh] cpittman [un] Delraven [un] 
19:34 <Beholder> FIQ: [hdf-eu] No current players
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20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had glittering spellbook bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:27004
20:11 <hothraxxa> You begin to memorize the runes.  You add the "light" spell to your repertoire.
20:14 <aosdict> make the dungeon _glitter_
20:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Naeroon (naeroon) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 40332 points, T:4460, killed by a giant ant
20:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bamboo arrow on an altar, on T:3337
20:47 <aosdict> Ugh. I think I merged this passive gold detection stuff prematurely. Too many bugs for me to figure out.
20:47 <aosdict> I did not test this as thoroughly as I tested other stuff.
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21:03 <jonadab> Yeah, feature branches can be useful for these kinds of things. 
21:07 <aosdict> jonadab: It's on a feature branch, I just decided it was ready and it wasn't.
21:08 <jonadab> Ah.
21:08 <aosdict> (Mainly because I had to backtrack on the newsym over the whole map thing, because no.)
21:09 <aosdict> Perhaps I should reduce this even further and change it to mapping gold only when you enter a level.
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22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10647
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22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Flan99 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha), 8063 points, T:2906, killed by a crow
23:21 <aosdict> FIQ: it occurs to me that non-passive gold detection might work well as a dwarvish racial ability in the list of ones you're putting together
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:23726
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