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01:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 395 points, T:359, killed by a water demon
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02:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1889 points, T:935, killed by a gelatinous cube
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04:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:50622
04:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:50654
05:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:50826
05:16 <LarienTelrunya> !tell K2 non-savebreaking slex update ready *bundlebundlebundle* :)
05:16 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
05:18 <LarienTelrunya> !tell Chris_ANG you should implement https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/f147a2044145e20b2e995ea08d04c049998a6800 in dnethack :D
05:18 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
05:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof tinning kit", on T:51132
07:04 <raisse> The tinning kit slips from your hands!
07:05 <K2> :)
07:05 <Beholder> K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-20 05:16 EST: non-savebreaking slex update ready *bundlebundlebundle* :)
07:06 <LarienTelrunya> Such a long bundle! ♥
07:06 <K2> did it slip *because* you were tinning? that should be a thing in the game
07:06 <K2> hah LarienTelrunya
07:17 <FIQ> !tell K2 pushed FIQHack update: make travel not stop for items or engravings on explored squares
07:17 <Beholder> Will do, FIQ!
07:18 <raisse> K2: he wished for it greased, so it must be slippery
07:18 <FIQ> !asc demobot
07:18 <Beholder> FIQ: demobot has ascended 16 times in 328 games (4.88%):  nh:16 (4.88%)
07:18 <FIQ> plenty
07:19 <hothraxxa> it's not about the length, LarienTelrunya 
07:22 <LarienTelrunya> hothraxxa: speaking of length, did you playtest SLEX 2.1.7 yet? compared to the earlier 2.1.1 version, game length has increased about 2.5-fold! ;)
07:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53451
07:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53453
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 650 points, T:1023, killed by a gas spore's explosion
07:48 <FIQ> pushed a fix that makes the last polearm target remembered for a polearm
08:07 <K2> wait
08:07 <Beholder> K2: Message from FIQ at 2018-02-20 07:17 EST: pushed FIQHack update: make travel not stop for items or engravings on explored squares
08:07 <K2> FIQ has an update!
08:07 <K2> lol
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08:22 <FIQ> 3 actually
08:22 <FIQ> I got better
08:26 <K2> :P
08:26 <K2> was about to ask
08:26 <K2> how you're feeling
09:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3964
09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2961 points, T:1535, killed by a warhorse
09:39 <jonadab> K2: Fourk has a minor update (to show monster movement rate in the monster lookup).
09:40 <K2> k
09:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4548
09:40 <K2> so fh, 4k and slex
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10:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] pavelek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8720 points, T:1408, killed by an air elemental
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10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Arc Hum Fem Law), 4366 points, T:8587, killed by a soldier ant
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11:04 <rikersan> !tell LarienTelrunya what do enchantments of "immobility" do?
11:04 <Beholder> Will do, rikersan!
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11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Pal Vee Mal Cha), 77 points, T:237, killed by an orcish dagger
11:06 <rld> <@riker> I was one-shot... by a dagger
11:06 <rld> <@riker> that did 24 damage
11:10 <K2> backstab?
11:10 <K2> was my ex-girlfriend wielding it?
11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3243
11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] rikerw (Div Sea Mal Cha), 2009 points, T:855, quit
11:20 <rld> <@riker> I really should learn not to put on amy's "evil plate mail"s and similar
11:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4924 points, T:5682, killed by a wand
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12:34 <LarienTelrunya> riker: what, you ragequit that slex run??? why did you do that :(
12:34 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from rikersan at 2018-02-20 11:04 EST: what do enchantments of "immobility" do?
12:35 <LarienTelrunya> !lastgame rikersan
12:35 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/gh/dumplog/1519055554.gh.txt
12:35 <LarienTelrunya> !lastgame rikersan slex
12:35 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/slex/dumplog/1518884671.slex.txt
12:35 <LarienTelrunya> huh, that's not the game I was looking for
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12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:25481
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:25481
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25484
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:25486
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:25487
12:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh] DemoBot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of remove curse", on T:25501
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13:02 <LarienTelrunya> !tell riker the immobility enchantment makes it so that every turn there's a 1 in 5000 chance that you are surrounded by hostile sessile monsters which spawn from thin air.
13:02 <Beholder> Will do, LarienTelrunya!
13:03 <aosdict> what? that doesn't sound like immobility.
13:03 <aosdict> I'd expect something like every turn there's a 1/N chance that you are paralyzed for M turns.
13:05 <LarienTelrunya> that's the "fainting" enchantment ;)
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13:17 <aosdict> I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of sessile monsters that can appear around you at any point that are nastier than any sessile monster in vanilla...
13:18 <aosdict> But ultimately it seems like it would just make a nice buffer.
13:18 <LarienTelrunya> @le?petrified turret
13:18 <Beholder> petrified turret (▒) | Lvl: 40 | Diff: 47 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 100 | Generates: special | AC: -10 | Attacks: 4d6 scratch petrification, 4d6 touch petrification, 4d12 hug petrification | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, breathless, mindless, nopoly
13:18 <LarienTelrunya> ^^ sessile
13:18 <LarienTelrunya> don't know about you, but I'd not want to use something with three highly damaging petrification attacks as a buffer ;)
13:19 <aosdict> A spell/other magic of summon fungus would be interesting though. <-- YANI
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15:40 <rld> <@kritixilithos> ooh, a cursed scroll of summon fungus would always summon fungi with passive attacks that the player is not resistant to
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16:13 <rld> <@riker> or give them 100x hp and rider-style teleportation
16:13 <Beholder> @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-20 13:02 EST: the immobility enchantment makes it so that every turn there's a 1 in 5000 chance that you are surrounded by hostile sessile monsters which spawn from thin air.
16:14 <rld> <@riker> ^ that's dumb af
16:14 <AmyBSOD> yo riker! play slex! *bundlebundlebundle* ♥
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16:14 <rld> <@riker> can't atm
16:14 <rld> <@riker> still doign math hw :p
16:15 <rld> <@riker> just trying to see if I'm the person who owns the irc nick for Riker
16:15 <aosdict> AmyBSOD: remind me why you usually go by LT on IRC?
16:15 <AmyBSOD> Evil Patch idea: a trap that periodically forces you to do multi-variable calculus, and giving the wrong answer (or no answer) reduces max HP or is otherwise detrimental.
16:16 <AmyBSOD> aosdict: "Amy Bluescreen" put into an elven name generator becomes "Larien Telrunya"
16:17 <aosdict> I'm aware of the origin, but why do you usually use it on IRC?
16:20 <riker> "it soudns nice" iirc
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16:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof stethoscope", on T:54250
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Eleven (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 12041 points, T:9380, killed by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster
16:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 18728 points, T:15993, killed by a hezrou
17:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54287
17:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54291
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:54371
17:17 <jonadab> aosdict: IIRC, she can't identify with nickserv for her preferred nick, because someone else has it registered.  They they aren't usually on, so she can sort of squat-use it temporarily.
17:18 <jonadab> or somesuch
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17:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:54660
17:45 <riker> @d?retriever
17:45 <Beholder> retriever (') | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 10 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -10 | Attacks: 2d8 claw physical, 2d8 claw amulet steal, 4d8 gaze elemental-gaze, 1d8 claw abduction | Alignment: -6 | Flags: breathless, mindless, thick hide, poisonous, covetous, vegan
17:45 <aosdict> I was imagining an adorable d-class monster...
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17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:54785
17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54787
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17:55 <aosdict> lovely, I can't look up "skeleton key" since monster lookup gets in the way first and gives me the "skeleton" entry :D
17:56 <rikersan> apologies all for join spam, having technical difficulties :/
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17:58 <aosdict> YANI: technical difficulty/ies as a hallucinatory monster
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18:02 <riker> ok I think I'm good
18:04 <jonadab> How did you manage to wrest that nick from the trekkies?
18:04 <jonadab> (Not that Riker is the one I'd want, as a Star Trek fan.  He's _way_ down the list of good characters...  Come to think of it, maybe that's how.)
18:04 <riker> I didn't 
18:04 <riker> >.>
18:04 <aosdict> by zapping a wand of wishing :D
18:04 <riker> I'm just unregistered
18:05 <riker> I set rikersan back to my alt name though
18:05 <jonadab> Ah.
18:05 <riker> this is just to try to make it so I get discord msgs/irc msgs on both ends
18:05 <aosdict> I think what jonadab is asking is, how did nobody register it already?
18:05 <riker> ^
18:05 <riker> they did
18:05 <riker> with capital first letter too
18:05 <jonadab> Right, he's saying he's squatting while the owner is offline.
18:06 <riker> will it give me riker_ if the owner is _online_, not just not in this channel?
18:06 <aosdict> Doesn't NickServ kick you to Guest1382873 in 30 seconds if you try to do that?
18:06 <riker> don't think so
18:06 <riker> not yet at least
18:07 <jonadab> aosdict: Only if the nick owner sets up some kind of autoregain feature.
18:07 <jonadab> riker: No, the nick is not per-channel, it's network-wide.
18:07 <riker> well fuck
18:07 <riker> I guess I'm back to rikersan 
18:08 <jonadab> So if the person who registered the nick tries to connect and gets "your nick is in use", he goes /msg NickServ regain and you get booted to Guest84974897
18:08 <riker> well shit
18:08 <riker> oh well
18:08 <jonadab> However, some users are MUCH more active than others.
18:08 <riker> pissed I mauled my config for this tho
18:08 <jonadab> You could get lucky and he never comes online hardly at all.
18:08 <riker> the odds of the guy who registered 'riker' are pretty low though
18:08 <riker> that was probably one of the earliest to go
18:08 <jonadab> I suspect that would also be true of Bluescreen
18:09 <riker> ^
18:09 <riker> is amybsod really taken?
18:09 <jonadab> I think not that one.
18:09 <jonadab> But Bluescreen is.
18:09 <riker> ofc
18:09 <jonadab> But she's been known to use it for hours at a time.
18:09 <riker> I wonder if the names from new movies and books get taken so quick
18:09 <jonadab> Probably depends on the kind of movie or book.
18:09 <aosdict> jonadab: With people idling, I wonder if freenode will ever set up some sort of appeals process for deregistering a nick.
18:10 <jonadab> Sci-fi ones probably get snapped up faster than, say, Harlequins.
18:10 <jonadab> aosdict: I'd be against it, unless it has a LONG "hasn't logged in since forever and ever" requirement.
18:10 <jonadab> And by long I mean like a decade.
18:11 <jonadab> Too much potential for confusion.
18:11 <aosdict> Yeah, basically. I suppose this is effectively something every social network (that uses unique user-chosen names) needs to face at a certain age
18:21 <riker> !rng sode | shield
18:21 <Beholder> riker: shield
18:21 <riker> !rng sode | shield | helping hand
18:21 <Beholder> riker: shield
18:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56111
18:22 <riker> !rng sode | helping hand
18:22 <Beholder> riker: sode
18:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56297
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56374
18:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] ellipsis (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 144 points, T:601, killed by a boulder
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57384
18:55 <riker> @d?nessian pit fiend
18:55 <Beholder> nessian pit fiend (&) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 99 | Generates: special | AC: -29 | Attacks: 4d2 weapon physical, 4d2 claw physical, 3d4 bite drain str, 0d9 cast spell, 8d2 passive fire | Alignment: 19 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, demon, stalker, infravisible
18:57 <riker> @d?silver star
18:57 <Beholder> No such monster.
18:57 <riker> @d?drow matron
18:57 <Beholder> drow matron (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 60 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 0d0 mmmmagical clerical | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible
18:59 <aosdict> what the heck kind of attack type is "mmmmagical"
19:00 <riker> what adeon does when he's bored of entering attack types
19:00 <riker> m-m-m-m-magical! 
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19:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:14931
19:07 <riker> u got dis rune
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20:21 <K2> !ping
20:21 <Beholder> K2: Pong! 
20:21 <APic> !ping
20:21 <Beholder> APic: Pong! 
20:21 <APic> 🙌
20:21 <APic> !PoM
20:21 <Beholder> APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 9 days.
20:21 <K2> :P
20:21 <APic> yay
20:21 <APic> Even here now.
20:23 <aosdict> yes, lovely waxing crescent moon was out today
20:23 <K2> cloudy and raining here
20:23 <K2> all out snow going away
20:23 <K2> our
20:23 <K2> no moon for me
20:23 <aosdict> actually, can still see it
20:23 <APic> Actually, we are living on the Moon.
20:23 <APic> Which is made out of green Cheese.
20:23 <K2> get out
20:23 <[Demo]> the government made the moon up
20:23 <APic> Elvis Presley lives there, too.
20:24 <APic> What we see as shrinking and growing is just Mother Earth.
20:24 <[Demo]> flat moon theory
20:24 <aosdict> YANI: in halluinit mode (for variants which have that), replace "You are lucky! Full moon tonight." with "You're on the moon tonight."
20:25 <K2> Slash'EM Extended updated (us and eu)
20:25 <aosdict> actually don't even need halluinit, that message can appear if you restore a game during full moon
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20:26 <APic> lol
20:26 * APic only thought of polyinit
20:26 <APic> Not yet of halluinit
20:26 <APic> 🙌
20:26 <aosdict> I think nethack4 has it. Definitely Fourk has it.
20:27 <APic> *nod*
20:27 <APic> Good old Ais523 ☺
20:27 <K2> FIQhack updated (us and eu)
20:27 <jonadab> aosdict: NH4 also has permahallu
20:27 <jonadab> Guess what that does.
20:27 <APic> yay
20:29 <jonadab> I've also implemented permaconfused, permastunned, permaglib (i.e., permanent greasy fingers), and I think permanent terrible luck.
20:29 <jonadab> (Some of these are only in Fourk .5 though.)
20:29 <K2> NetHack Fourk updated (us and eu)
20:31 <aosdict> jonadab: yeah, that is... exactly what I was talking about?
20:31 <jonadab> Ah.
20:31 <jonadab> The first one was permablind, i.e., zen.
20:31 <jonadab> And then permahallu naturally followed.  ais did those two before I was involved.
20:31 <jonadab> The others came later.
20:32 <bhaak> what about permadeath?
20:32 <jonadab> Heh.
20:32 <aosdict> Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 zorkmids. Ever.
20:32 <APic> And permanundead?
20:33 <APic> *nod*
20:33 <aosdict> permadeath: when you die, we revoke your account and ban your IP from the server. On a local installation, the game deletes itself from your system.
20:34 <aosdict> (actually I think that's how some minecraft hardcore servers work...)
20:34 <APic> ,o0(So when i die, the first Thing i will see in Heaven is the High-Score-List?)
20:35 <jonadab> aosdict: Early tomagotchi worked that way.
20:35 <jonadab> If you let the electronic pet die, the device was bricked.
20:36 <aosdict> And then they realized that did not actually increase sales, probably.
20:36 <jonadab> I think they wanted to broaden the audience.
20:36 <jonadab> To include people who weren't willing to be that hardcore.
20:37 <jonadab> In order to, yes, increase sales.
20:39 <bhaak> I wouldn't be surprised, if that was just the difference between the japanese and the international version :)
20:40 <jonadab> Don't think so.  Because the first generation American version was that way.
20:40 <jonadab> Only for a few weeks, though.
20:40 <jonadab> And then the other kind came out.
20:41 <jonadab> At least, that's how I remember it.
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20:41 <jonadab> Though, they were most popular with kids my youngest sister's age, roughly.
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20:47 <aosdict> jonadab: how does the "more relevant" NH4 encyclopedia get its data? Is it just a more precise and thorough data.base file? Or is this defined anywhere else?
20:53 <jonadab> aosdict: The paragraph of text for each thing is just from a rewritten data.base.  The statistical data above are a feature FIQ added, which I cherry-picked.
20:54 <aosdict> statistical data? you mean monster lookup?
20:54 <jonadab> Right.
20:54 <aosdict> I'd hate to find out that someone else already did object lookup when I'm on the verge of finishing it
20:54 <jonadab> Ah.
20:55 <jonadab> Not AFAIK.
20:55 <aosdict> good
20:56 <aosdict> I mean, I think I'm done, actually. With the spit-out-object-data part, at least.
20:58 <aosdict> There are still some shortcomings (eg searching for "skeleton key" gives you the "skeleton" monster), but it more or less works.
21:01 <jonadab> Cool.
21:01 <jonadab> Note that data.base has syntax to let you do things like "not key, skeleton"
21:02 <jonadab> Not sure how to deal with that when looking through the lists of objects and monsters.
21:02 <aosdict> Yeah, but it wouldn't work here since there's no backreferencing (there's no direct links tying a data.base entry to a specific object string.)
21:03 <aosdict> Currently I run it through a function that searches exact object names (and alt spellings, and Japanese names) with a fuzzy match
21:03 <jonadab> Right.
21:04 <jonadab> But you have to stop monsters matching partially when an object matches better.  Or vice versa.
21:04 <jonadab> Whee.
21:04 <APic> Whew.
21:04 <aosdict> I wanted to use more of the readobjnam code, but it has problems like "oh, let's just pick a random object that sort of matches this description and return it"
21:05 * APic hopes ais523 will bring Multiplayer-NetHack back soon.
21:06 <jonadab> APic: There are all kinds of prerequisites for that.
21:06 <APic> 🙌
21:06 <aosdict> jonadab: I don't *think* any vanilla object names are a strict subset of some monster name? So I could get away with "matches object? No? Try monster."
21:07 <jonadab> Hmm, you could try that and see what happens.
21:07 <jonadab> Though, you'll get issues like orange / orange dragon
21:07 <aosdict> Oh, well there it is.
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21:08 <aosdict> Actually, I just tried it and both of those work. (It won't take "orange dragon" and match it to "orange").
21:08 <jonadab> What you probably want to do is make a list of such cases and _test for them_.
21:08 <jonadab> Oh?  Interesting.
21:08 <jonadab> That could work then.
21:09 <jonadab> Hmm, you might want to do object first, then monster, _then_ all the fruitnames on record.
21:10 <jonadab> Although, not sure what you would display for the fruitnames.
21:10 <jonadab> Just the stats and no paragraph of explanatory text?
21:10 <jonadab> A generic paragraph that works no matter what the user calls it?
21:10 <jonadab> "They say this is edible.  Some adventurers have strange tastes."
21:11 <aosdict> YANI for nh4: ^
21:11 <APic> ↑
21:11 <aosdict> Hrm, it currently ignores "slime mold" and "chocolate Amulet of Yendor", but typing in "fruit" gets you the block of stats.
21:11 <jonadab> Interesting.
21:11 <APic> RUMOURS.TRU versus RUMOURS.FAL
21:11 <APic> Or was that RUMORs?
21:11 <APic> 😉
21:12 <jonadab> They probably spell it without the U.
21:12 <jonadab> Because that spelling is more common Stateside.
21:12 <jonadab> And NetHack is unashamedly American in its use of English.
21:12 <aosdict> jonadab: and while slime mold does have a data.base entry, fruit surprisingly doesn't link to that C.S. Lewis quote.
21:14 <jonadab> OBTW, Let's Play NetHack Fourk Episode 4 is up now.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKQ9NO9gLo4
21:14 <jonadab> Complete with better mic pickup than episode 3.
21:14 <jonadab> But it's just Sokoban, so probably not very interesting to most folks here.
21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] winter (Zyb Vam Mal Neu), 11166 points, T:3947, killed by a monster (pale white shark)
21:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21785
21:16 <APic> 🙌
21:18 <aosdict> Huh, there's also no data.base entry for "key", which is odd.
21:19 <rld> <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG what did you change with god anger? you cna't pray-until-death anymore?
21:19 <Beholder> Will do, @riker!
21:20 <rld> <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG I mean I don't seem to get lightning'd or wide-angle-disint'ed
21:20 <Beholder> Will do, @riker!
21:20 <Chris_ANG> I forget
21:20 <Beholder> Chris_ANG: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2018-02-20 05:18 EST: you should implement https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/f147a2044145e20b2e995ea08d04c049998a6800 in dnethack :D
21:20 <Beholder> Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-20 21:19 EST: what did you change with god anger? you cna't pray-until-death anymore?
21:20 <Beholder> Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2018-02-20 21:20 EST: I mean I don't seem to get lightning'd or wide-angle-disint'ed
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21:27 <Chris_ANG> @riker: probably introduced a bug.
21:28 <Chris_ANG> It should be blasting same as always, but I have replicated the behavior you're seeing.
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21:32 <aosdict> jonadab: There's a fruit_from_name function which probably solves the fruit problem.
21:34 <jonadab> Ah, could be.
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21:36 <aosdict> wow, game with 2 arrow-trap-fake-bones-piles right next to the upstairs on DL1.
21:36 <APic> Ah.
21:40 <aosdict> Urgh, the pager.c code lowercaseifies the input string...
21:41 <aosdict> So it'll work on fruit names that are lowercase, but nothing else.
21:43 <jonadab> You can't compare to a lowercased version of the fruit names?
21:44 * APic likes Brezn.
21:44 <APic> Very, very much.
21:44 <aosdict> Not without changing the fruit_from_name function to take a fourth argument.
21:45 <jonadab> Ah.
21:45 <aosdict> Well, perhaps I could augment the behavior of the "exact" argument to also mean case insensitive...
21:46 <APic> ,o0(Augmented Realities)
21:46 <APic> …
21:48 <aosdict> Okay, that worked, only had to change one strncmp to strncmpi.
21:49 <APic> 🙌
21:50 * APic still like strcasecmp better. Just i have no Idea where the „n“ would be, then.  ☺
21:50 <jonadab> strncasecmpi?
21:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:23143
21:51 <jonadab> fstrncasecmpi
21:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the eye of the aethiopica", on T:28554
21:51 <aosdict> __fstrncasecmpi__
21:51 <aosdict> #ifdef __FSTRNCASECMPI__
21:52 <APic> ktnx
21:52 <K2> fuck i didnt get it
21:52 <K2> and theres only one artifact in the game
21:52 <K2> the wand was 1:1
21:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the eye of the aethiopica", on T:28555
21:53 <jonadab> How do you _know_ there's only one artifact in the game?
21:53 <K2> wow twice!
21:53 <aosdict> did unnethack nerf artiwishing, or are you saying there's some other arti out there?
21:53 <K2> i found trollsbane
21:53 <jonadab> How do you know you didn't go past a bones level with Sting buried, with no headstone because the player died over water or on the stairs?
21:53 <K2> i dont have my quest artifact yet
21:53 <K2> jonadab: because every level i've been on has been searched thoroughly
21:54 <jonadab> Hmm.
21:54 <K2> i didnt get it on 2nd either
21:54 <K2> fucked UP
21:54 <APic> ↑
21:54 <jonadab> well, nerfing artiwishing doesn't sound _entirely_ out of character for Un.
21:54 <K2> theres no mention of artifact nerf wishing on th wiki for unnethack
21:55 <APic> lol
21:55 <APic> UnNetHack is probably very close to GruntHack.
21:55 <K2> other than you cant wish for theifbane
21:55 <K2> grunthack doesnt nerf wishing at all
21:56 <K2> wow
21:56 <K2> wowowow
21:56 <jonadab> Well, we know Un nerfs lamp wishing.
21:56 <jonadab> And DSM wishing.
21:56 <K2> right
21:56 <aosdict> K2: there's a lot of things about SporkHack that would be nice to know that aren't on the wiki either ;)
21:57 <K2> aosdict it is on the wiki (sporkhack)
21:57 <K2> just not where you think it should be
21:57 <K2> feel free to change it
21:57 <K2> i almost want to end this game
21:57 <K2> gah
21:58 <aosdict> where on the wiki can I learn about the spork intrinsic system?
21:58 <K2> the post i made?
21:58 <APic> lol, Spork
21:59 <aosdict> ah, Talk:SporkHack
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22:00 <K2> !tell bhaak does unnethack nerf artifact wishing or quest artifact wishing in any way (other than thiefbane) ?
22:00 <Beholder> Will do, K2!
22:00 <aosdict> oh heh, I just realized I changed headstone color to white. This will probably have no effect except in weird fonts.
22:01 <jonadab> K2: Hasn't anyone ever told you not to ask questions you don't want to know the answers to?
22:01 <aosdict> *I* want to know the answer.
22:01 <K2> but i don want to know
22:01 <K2> do
22:02 <K2> evenif there were a 2nd artifact generated somewhere that i didnt know about, the 2nd wish gives me almost 90% chance of success
22:02 * APic likes weird Fonts
22:02 <K2> for the one i know of, it should have been 100%
22:02 <APic> But my favourite Font is still Terminus
22:02 <APic> Even though goldkatze over there suggested Inconsolata
22:02 <APic> Or similar
22:02 <K2> so either bhaak nerfed artifact wishing somehow, or my luck just really really SUCKS right now
22:03 <jonadab> Or there's a collection of six useless artifacts buried somewhere on a level you couldn't tell was bones because the player died in a way that left no mark.
22:03 <jonadab> Unless you did object detection on every level, of course.
22:04 <jonadab> Granted, my bet is on artiwishing being nerfed.
22:04 <jonadab> Probably.
22:04 <aosdict> I'm trying to figure out how to die in a way that leaves *no* mark. Leaving a ghost rules out most deaths.
22:04 <aosdict> Have nothing in inventory and controlled levelport to level 0, maybe?
22:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 196292 points, T:28847, dissolved in molten lava
22:08 <K2> ^ on purpose
22:08 <K2> should be an interesting bones lvl if bones were generated
22:08 <aosdict> dissolved in molten lava named Where's My Eye Of The Aethiopica
22:09 <K2> hah
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22:21 <K2> there's no difference in src/objnam.c between vanilla (3.4.3) and unnethack concerning artifact wishing other than you cant wish for thiefbane
22:21 <K2> fuck
22:21 <K2> so maybe i did miss some artifact(s) somewhere
22:22 <K2> or my luck was just shit
22:22 <K2> prob the latter
22:22 <K2> damn you RNG
22:25 <aosdict> doesn't that guarantee you missed an artifact somewhere, if you only knew of 1?
22:27 <K2> yeah
22:27 <K2> just read what I typed
22:27 <K2> hah
22:27 <K2> so yeah i missed at least one somewhere
22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nd] Grasshopper (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:57621
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Rune (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 106359 points, T:27076, petrified by a cockatrice corpse
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23:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Rune (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 30115 points, T:3292, killed by a rothe
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